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Are video games a hobby? Or a means of escapism from depression?

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Are video games a hobby? Or a means of escapism from depression?
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>>384240809
Both, normies play them one or two hours every once in a while and then get back to something else while the rest of us immerse ourselves in them
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The latter is the definition of the former
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They can be both.
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>>384240809
depression is a meme used by kids and edgy teenagers to get attention, i simply saw around 50 classmates a few years ago use it for attention just fuck off with this depression thing it doesn't exist you're being pathetic.
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>>384240809
when you are depressed you feel so shitty or numb that even playing videogames feels like an impossible task
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>>384240809
The former. Some people (A good portion of this board, for example) subsequently warp it into the latter.
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i play video games to forget that i'm alive
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>>384240809
you're not depressed.
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>>384240809

Its a shitty hobby you waste time on.

Thats why i found a new hobby:
I paint the nails of my girlfriend and mine too.
Its fun, it takes skill and patience and you get wonderful results in the end.

Also my gf likes it
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>>384240923
>don't listen to those psychiatrists, I saw some people who were faking it therefore I know better
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>>384240923
I had a friend who claimed she was bipolar, when really she was just being edgy for the fun of it

don't take away from the fact that she broke my finger by twisting it once though, the dick
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If you are actually depressed you're depressed even doing things you like.

My buddy has actual, clinical depression and it makes me angry when people call themselves depressed when they feel sad for a few days.
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>>384241009
you sound like a cuck
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>>384241019
> psychiatrists

that's fine anon, if you want to keep being sad on purpose for attention be my guess, sit there in your fucking chair and remain a virgin without being proactive in life and die.

The only thing making you "depressed" or sad per say is you and your pathetic mindset. Grow up.
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>>384241009
>Gladium's girlfriend

I remember how this ended last time.
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>>384240923
Is it depression when you realize you'll never be the hero this world needs and escape into an alternative world to live out that dream?
>I just want to run around and kill badguys with a 2handed sword irl.
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>>384240923
>depression is a meme
How to prove youre underage in a post.
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>>384241154
stfu I'm an edgy 4chan contrarian I kno everyhting!!!!1!
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>>384241009
get out of here, namefag.
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>>384241154
if anything it proves that i'm not underage, i used to be "depressed" when i was 14-16, hated myself for it and i look back now and just cringe. i was just a sad teenager and i grew out of depression, as all of you should too.

>>384241112
yeah realising i'd never bang a qt alien like in mass effect made me quite sad for a few weeks
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>>384241252
lol just grow out of depression
just be happy
just be urself
just have a good life
its so easy
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>>384241095
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>>384241112
I'm becoming a cop, it's the closer you can be if you move your ass
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>buy [game] that /v/ constantly praises
>play it for 27 minutes
>alt+f4
>launch game again
>reach the start menu
>select exit game
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>>384240872
Elaborate. Because escapism tends to be bad and imply that it is not constructive in any way while some hobbies are very constructive. Reading, for example, or learning a new language. Painting, drawing, sculpting and such are more questionably constructive, but they at least have the possibility of adding something positive to the world if you get good enough at them.

I myself would like to become a toy maker, so I sculpt a bit in my free time. That's a hobby. I would consider video games just a time waster. Though some people consider that to be the only thing that matters in a hobby.
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>>384241252
>tfw 28 and you never grew out of it
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>>384241252
>when i was 14-16, hated myself for it and i look back now and just cringe
You don't know what real depression is, everyone as kid as rough times, deoression is a whole different matter, you fucking retard, is not even something you can control.
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>>384240923
>50 classmates (*in junior high).
t. 12-year old.
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>>384241252
>i used to be "depressed" when i was 14-16, hated myself for it and i look back now and just cringe. i was just a sad teenager and i grew out of depression
In case you're not trying to be le epic b8 master, please stop spouting retarded shit like thinking your emo teenager phase is the same as depression
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>>384241224
You ignore tripfags, newfriend. Never respond to their posts.
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>>384241252
You have no concept of real depression
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>>384241285
yes just grow out of it, it's a phase and it fucking angers me seeing people using it for social leverage, that's all it's used for. The amount of conversations i've had where people bring it up unnecessarily and everyone goes OH YOU POOR THING BLAH BLAH. fuck you and fuck your made up illness.

>>384241314
>Implying depression is and actual illness
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>>384240923
This, you never hear people in the past before the 20th century killing themselves just because they fweel saaad.
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>>384241425
Sounds like you're upset you're not getting the attention they are.
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>>384241425
>i'm a normie with no empathy and i had a good life so depression cant possibly be real
thanks for sharing pal
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>>384241437
?
Nigga' are you retarded? Haven't you ever heard of "Greek Tragedy"? They iced themselves constantly.
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>>384241363
>real depression
it's not real, again grow up.

>>384241390
it's not retarded it's logical, look around and see all these kids defending their fake attention grabbing illness. by today's standards it's probably more normal to have it than not have it. you will realise one day that you won't be able to get as much attention if any when everyone "has depression"
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>>384241154
Honestly depression has become a meme, especially on the internet. Every single young adult and teenager claims to have depression and makes ironic posts about how the only way they can cope with their depression is ironic meming.

Just how often has that pic of the guy squatting on his desk with "I have anxiety" on his screen been reposted? It is literally hip to be depressed.
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>>384241437
Van Gogh?
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>>384241345
An unproductive hobby is still a hobby
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>>384241425
>Implying depression is and actual illness
Why you think there are meds for depression, you god damn underage fucking retard?

There is no way you're over 15 unless you are trying to act like an underage troll on purpose.
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>>384240809
Every hobby can be a means of escapism from depression
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>>384241437
what did he mean by this?
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>>384241547

>>384241495
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>>384241252
You know that going through puberty fucks up your hormonal imbalance, right? You did literally grow out of depression, but that's like saying "I was shot and recovered, so clearly gunshot wounds are nothing. Everyone who dies from getting shot is faking it."
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>>384241551
>>384241437
YES THANK YOU INTELLIGENT PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD
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>>384240923
it's real, but the way some people won't shut up about it is pretty obnoxious. don't want to be depressed? fucking fix it! oh, but I guess if you did that you'd have nothing to complain about and feel important. you need a "thing" that defines you.
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>>384241009
Fag
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>>384241437
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>>384241565
i'm not trolling whatsoever, i care not for (you)s, i'm glad i'm waking people up about their meme disease. and the meds are placebos to try and make you feel like you're changing.

Maturing is probably the best medicine though.
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To every person ITT claiming to have """""""""depression""""""""

1. Go to a shrink
2. Get a diagnosis and help
3. If 2 is not applicable, get over yourself and stop being a useless sack of shit

Depression is a real thing but 90% of people claiming to have it are undiagnosed lazy failures who need to shove the blame onto something
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>>384241547
>it's not real, again grow up.
It's not related to age or maturity, depression can happen even after you hit your 30s and happens to people who others would consider succesful like actors and artists, the more you try to sound mature, the more your underage shows, try hard autistic retard.
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>>384241617
>thinking i apply my logic of depression, a non existent disease that hasn't hurt or killed anyone (people's weak minds and desperation for attention does though) to every other fatal illness or situation in which someone dies.
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>>384241646
We don't really understand a lot of brain stuff yet. My ex was prescribed nearly every drug in the book and was in the mental hospital for months and was barely any better when she got out. They tried changing her drugs again to actually fix her, but it made her ten times worse and she had to spend nearly another year in the hospital. That's when we broke up.
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>>384241357
it's not you, it's society.
move somewhere healthy. people are gonna tell you there's something wrong with you, but that's bullshit. our society is sick. funny part is, the most seemingly well adjusted peoplle are usually the craziest ones.
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>>384241565
>Why you think there are meds for depression
So physicatrists and the companies who make them can make money obviously
Good on you goyim for falling for the meme
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>>384241727
I actually did have to go to a shrink and take anti-depressants for a while. Let me tell you, people who say they're depressed because they want attention - they have no idea how awful it is. Fuck those guys.
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>>384241646
You're retarded.
You're mixing attention-seeking behavior with those who suffer an actual depression illness, presuming that they're the same, and advising people with an illness to just "fix it" without treatment.
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Depression is a real thing, it's a hormonal imbalance your body cant fix on its own

However the VAST majority of people who claim to have it dont and just want an excuse to be a failure
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>>384241646
>don't want to be autistic? fucking fix it!
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>>384241727
>1. Go to a shrink
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>>384241823
>We don't really understand a lot of brain stuff yet

what the hell does that mean? they know plenty. sure there's always new things to learn, but it's not like they've just been sitting around all day twiddling their thumbs. it's a chemical imbalance. that or external sources.
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>>384241727
You aren't wrong, but having zero motivation and being full of self-loathing really stops you from making much progess
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>>384241839
>it's society
I know, I live in Sweden
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>>384241896
so your suggestion is simply stay depressed alright. your life pal.
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>>384241094

>Enjyoing time with your girlfriend is now cukcworthy

Lol what is this bizarro world?
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>>384241682
>>384241847
>reminder that these people actually exist, and they also think vaccines are bad for you
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>>384241876
I'm a shrink myself actually, I work with real depressed people. This new trend of "haha ironic memes I am so depressed LMAO xd" is fucking disgusting. Its like people pretending they have terminal cancer for fun
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>>384240809

you're not depressed. you're just lazy. if you have time to complain, you have time to look for a job.
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>>384241682
> i'm glad i'm waking people up about their meme disease.
What people? It's not hard to find underage edgy retards who would claim anything to seem intelligent even without any knowledge or proof, if you are desperate for the approval of those people pretty much explains why you are attention whoring so hard.

Meds for depression don't work anything like placebos, they affect and change the brain's chemistry directly and they just don't magically make you feel better, there are side effects as well.

>Maturing is probably the best medicine though.
Maturing is understanding not everything is under your control, you underage dumbfuck.
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test
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>>384240923
The brain scan of someone who is depressed looks different to a healthy person, stop with this bullshit Jesus Christ
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>>384242087
vaccines in theory are fine for you, its in the name. the part people don't trust are the large pharmaceutical companies who are profit minded, not helping people minded
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>>384242092
depression is too much of an umbrella term, like cancer. it's like saying you're sad. everyone gets sad. it needs a more descriptive name.
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>>384242104
Are you implying depressed people don't work?
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>>384241541
Greek tragedies are fiction and meant to dramatize real life. Reason characters who kill themselves in the play is for entirely different reasons and not because they get tired of weeeal life.
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>>384242121
not with that attitude. mind over matter.
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>>384240923
this, i'm sick of all those limp-dicked depressed trans-SJW tumblr pussies, what does self-diagnosed even mean?
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>>384242196
the specific term is clinical depression
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>>384241847
>it's a /pol/tard tries to explain the world though his mom's basement experience episode

Depression is a complex subject, too hard for your pathetic black vs white mentallity, go post frogs or something.
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>>384242265
This site really needs an underage filter.
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>>384242039
I'm not sure how you extrapolated any of that, but I guess I have to paraphrase so you understand:
I'm not at all depressed for starters.
Secondly, I was saying is that the attention-seeking cunts and the people who suffer an illness are explicitly different groups you're lumping together.
Lastly, I'm suggesting if someone is stuck with depression to seek help.
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>>384242180
>profit minded, not helping people minded
so literally every company?
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>>384242470
why
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>>384242271
People who is trully depressed will hardly ever admit it or scream it to the air openly.

Retards like you honestly should stick to talking videogames.
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>I'm like so depressed I can't get out of bed, life sucks I hate everything, I want to die
Then do something about it
>*posts pasive-agressive meme comic*
>yeaaah great advice shitlord! that's not how depression works!
Then get some help I dun-
>NO! there's no cure for depression fuck off already I'll stay like this forever!!! I'm DEPRESSED
Then stay like that forever.
>Noooo!! you're supposed to help me!! you have no empathy nor respect fuck youuuu!!!!

mmm, so let me get this straight, you have no will to change no matter what everyone tells you so you just want us (the people close to you and hell even strangers) to listen to your insanely distorted views of the world for hours so you get your daily tap in the back? No, fuck you, you're making not only your life miserable with your bitching but the people that want to help you get better, if you really want to die like that, kill yourself now and save us the problem of dealing with you.
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>>384241437
Are you retarded or just pretending?
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>>384242651
He mad not everyone agrees or it's impressed with his "16 year old kid trying to look smart and mature" point of view.
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>>384242470
BRAAAAAAAAAP
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>>384241847
>I'm 14 and think I have the world figured out because I read some shit on 4chan
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>>384242775
and another idiot that doesn't understand how depression works *sigh*
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Playing video games in your free time is not a hobby. Making video games in your free time is.
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>>384242775
You sound like a crazy homeless person screaming at imaginary people
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>>384242220
>Greek Tragedy is meant to emulate real life.
>... Yet no one before the 20th century killed themselves.
>Therefore depression is fake.
I ask again:
Are. You. Retarded?
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>>384242775
If the only thing you know about depression is related to tumblrwhores and other internet freaks trying to get some pitty points i really wonder how empty and lacking of any actual close interactions your life actually is, people like you is hardly in place to call other people life miserable, you haven't even lived at all, i seriously hope it's because you are underage.
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>>384243090
>>384242965

not an argument
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>>384241823

That's brutal, how'd you end up cutting it off? It seems like it's hard to break up with someone who is going through some shit like that because you don't want to just pile it on them.
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>>384243187
Who's arguing? You're insane. I'd sooner argue at a brick wall.
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>>384242651
shit thread, shit content.
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>>384243182
>passive-agressiveness,
Check.
>you just don't understand,
Check.
>you have no empathy nor respect for otherrssss!!
Check.

Quality post.
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>>384243309
If the choice is to be a depressed waste of oxygen or an insane person, I choose the latter, good luck making everyone miserable around you.
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>>384241390
Why did you ignore the quotes?
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>>384243337
Nice that was really insightful
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>>384243459
Glad to hear that, try not to make shitty ""arguments"" like that ever again.
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>>384242775
>I want to die
>Then do something about it
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>>384243519
Woah I never thought about it like that
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>>384243450
Because these people are completely insane, they shield themselves behind the "depression so hard can't get out of bed" to not do anything with their lives and will call others miserable when cornered.
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>>384243450
Not sure what you mean here
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>>384243337
>Can't tell from passive agressiveness and actual agressiveness unless i call him an underage retard again
Check
>No actual arguments yet pretends to understand
Check
>empathy lacking
Check

Keep proving you're either underage or just plainly, unironically autistic.
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>>384241997
Syaing "It's just a chemical imbalance" is like saying "A car runs on explosions" and then wondering why stuffing your gas tank full of TNT doesn't work. There are hundreds of different chemicals and many are similar enough that blocking one has unintended effects on others, much less what happens through the rest of your body.

>>384243228
Fortunately, I own guns, so her doctor called me once or twice to emphasize they were secured, so I had enough of a relationship with the doctor that I could ask her advice. We were only seeing each other like once a week at that point and she had legit BPD so she was pretty much a different person at that point. It wasn't too difficult, but honestly, neither of us really wanted to end it, but we both knew it was for the best.

It did help me realize that I'm the kind of person that doesn't really want a relationship though, since that few months when I only had to see her once a week was my favorite time in retrospect since I got all the perks but didn't actually have to deal with another person most of the time.
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>>384241252
dont worry anon you're not the only person to see mental illnesses are horseshit those without willpower or mental fortitude use as excuses
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there are plenty of things you can do to help you live a somewhat normal life, such as medication and working out
its just annoying when some teenager tells you to "just grow out of it man"
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>>384243626
Nah the difference is that when this discussion is over, which is right after this post, one of us will be doing something productive with his life while the other will keep spouting passive agressive comments at anonymous people on the internet.
Goodbye, I have better things to do than to argue with insane, broken people.
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>>384242434
i love how your only insult is to call people underage, depression isn't real, you won't get any attention from it in the years to come and quite frankly you are wasting a lot of time pretending to be sad for dwindling sympathy from your friends if you even have any.
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>>384243814
Like sucking penis lol!
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>>384243760
>those without willpower or mental fortitude use as excuses

As excuses for what? Depressed people can have a job and even appear succesful from the outside, yet feel miserable and want to end it all regardless of their achievments, there is no reason to admit depression doesn't exist and it's some meme other than plain ignorance or insecurity.
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>>384242824
>committed suicide when Empire started falling apart
Shit example. He didn't kill himself because he was """"depressed"""" in the sense of what we defined today. It's the same reason Hitler killed himself or how samurais commit suicide.

>>384243106
Says the guy misusing the quote function gee I wonder who's the bigger retard
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>>384240923
t. armchair psychologist
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>>384243627

Oh shit, nvm. It wouldn't be too hard to break up with someone with BPD. They can act like total maniacs. I thought you were just dating a depressed person. That seems a lot harder, because you don't want to make them feel even shittier about themselves
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>>384244064
>Depressed people can have a job and even appear succesful from the outside, yet feel miserable and want to end it all regardless of their achievments
Bullshit
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>>384243814
>one of us will be doing something productive with his life
I miss being naive and underage, ignorance is trully bliss.

>>384243978
>i love how your only insult is to call people underage
You seem to love cock even more.
There, happy?

> you won't get any attention from it in the years to come and quite frankly you are wasting a lot of time pretending to be sad for dwindling sympathy from your friends if you even have any.

Well. Good, because during my 3 years of actual clinical depression i hardly let anyone but my professional therapist know about it, none of my friends ever knew about it either and i would like to keep it that way.

But go ahead, please keep pretending how a fucking underage shitstain knows EVERYTHING about the world, lmao.
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>>384240809
it start at a hobby
but if you addict to it then it will become escapism (Not escapism from depression. but it will be the cause of depression itself if you addict to it)
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>>384244659
Why you think so many rich actors, painters, musicians end up killing themselves then? The only people who got memed here is the ones who think success = happiness.
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>>384244085
The biggest retard is the person that nonironically thought people before the 20th century didn't kill themselves, a statement so unbelievably stupid everyone joined in a chorus to ridicule you.
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>>384241896
>All these people depressed
Nigger, I used to be depressed until I found out the cause of it. Think on what is causing you to be depressed and fixing it makes you feel like you're on top of the world. It might not fully get rid of your depression like me, but it's way better than staying in a shittier state.

The number way to do this is to push yourself to change it even though it feels like that you're trapped in limbo. The only person that could help you is yourself.

I believe in you, anons.
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>>384245231
our feminist consumerist society is making me depressed
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>>384245361
Then walk away from your PC and get friends IRL.
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>>384244827
they probabaly never picked up that you had it because you faked it, pretending to be sad in front of a therapist, you had clinical sadness not depression. Grow up. Works for any kid who feels sad
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>>384240809
>work 8hrs per day
>every time when reach home jump to video games
>no social life besides work
>tfw seeing myself drowning in an abysm
This is why I prefer games who has deeper lore. I can forget about my life.
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>>384244064
it does exist, but is 99 percent of the time used as an excuse to be lazy
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>>384245990
game?
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>>384245739
I have friends, how does that change society?
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>>384246267
Sunless Sea
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>>384246426
ty
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>>384246183

source? Other than your ass?
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>>384245984
>they probabaly never picked up that you had it because you faked it
Or maybe because i never told them about it? I had no reason to and you are pretty much retarded and deffinitely need more human contact if you think depression is acting sad 24/7.

>you had clinical sadness
No such thing

> Grow up.
Says the one so insecure and delusional that doesn't want to admit an illness actually exists because some crap he read on internet and pretends he can have control over anything that happens, what are you trying to hide?
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>>384246183
Thats a different problem then. Any illness can be used as an excuse for being a lazy fuck.
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I've tried to make it a hobby by getting into fighting games and making my own games but I always burn out as soon as I get through the initial honeymoon period of about a month each time.
Sad honestly considering how often it's happened.
Right now it's only really escapism as you say for me at least.
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>>384244827
if you have a chemical imbalance it doesnt just go away after 3 years you idiot.
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>>384240809
I wish they are a hobby to my
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>>384240923
young, dumb, 20 year old spotted. enjoy the tough times in your life, faggot.
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>>384246267
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198029363860/recommended/304650/
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>>384246845
he never said it just went away, he just didn't say how
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>>384241095
lol fucking loser. Enjoy fapping at home today, not having a job.
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Video games don't require you to produce anything, so it's as much a hobby as consuming television, film, and music. It's not like playing an instrument or creating art; unless you're in the top 2% of players that are so good that watching you is a form of entertainment for others.
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>>384246970
i have a job it's just my day off today because i can choose when i want time off, as with any good job. You probably haven't experienced such freedom and career progression before.
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>>384246845
He said it happened during his teen years and puberty essentially IS a few years of chemical imbalance. Totally plausible to me.
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Had my dad and gpa die within 5 months of one another. had my cousin kill herself. had my ex cheat on me. had other things hapen. felt like a bum, became super introverted, felt sorry for myself.

feels better to work and find a job you enjoy. way better off now. any shit lord who is memeing that depression isn't real, grow the fuck up. you'll be forced to anyway. fact.
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>>384246909
Heh, this was pretty good
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>>384246909
good god, that was amazing, did you write it?
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>>384246974
you don't have to be good at video games for it to be entertaining
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>>384247231
No, I fucking wish I had creativity like that.
I just found it when brought the game.
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>>384247302

For it to be entertaining to others, I think so; unless you have an entertaining personality or tits. If you're playing for yourself then it's consumption and not a hobby.
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>>384246963
>>384247095
low seratonin levels can be a result of changing hormones, like a lot of things but you cant say you have clinical depression because of it. doctors hand out maois like candy and everyone thinks they are bipolar because they cant handle basic levels of stress. it's just as insufferable as people who try to tell you depression and anxiety dont exist.
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>>384240809
For me its pure escapism from a life that is purely miserable.
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>>384247418
Hobbies don't have to be productive.
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>>384245139
>nonironically thought people before the 20th century didn't kill themselves
Never said that. I said people back then didn't kill themselves due to being """depressed""", but killed themselves due to a different reason. Learn to read, nigger.
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>>384246845
>if you have a chemical imbalance it doesnt just go away after 3 years you idiot.
Chemical imbalance can happen for lots of different reasons, going from bad habits to shitty genetics. In several cases, with the help of medication and a change of habits, you certainly can achieve a change if you work hard and are consistent with those changes, eventually your brain chemistry will be more balanced thanks to those changes without the need for meds and the bad thoughts will simply have little to no impact on you anymore, no one really said anything about shit just going away but you, so stop being a spastic retard and learn to fucking read.
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>>384247090
anon you said it yourself, you need to grow up. if you really think depression isn't real, good luck later on in life whenever you encounter someone with it. loser. I can also 100% promise you that my job is better. ;)
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>>384241345
>sculpting

What are you, gay?
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>>384247589
the only way you can have an actual seratonin imbalance is if you ruin your levels with drugs or have a clinical depression problem to begin with. saying "in my 3 years of" implies that there was a period of time that he was depressed, implying that it was n o t an inherent issue. if you can cure it by making changes in your life, then it was only a temporary deficiency. you dont just take the meds and fix your levels, you have to take the meds because you cant do it without the meds.
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>>384241357
I get panic attacks every night I tty to sleep. It's the constant fear of death. I am afraid to just vanish into nothingness one day, and religion doesn't help either because even if religion is right and you live in paradise one day, the thought of living forever and ever and ever is just as frightening to me. And as I get older the fear grows year after year. I hot nervous ticks, I can't concentrate, I don't find anything enjoyable or interesting anymore but i'm too afraid to kill myself
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>>384241425
>being this guy

i really feel for you, dawg. Good luck with that mindset with the future people you meet.
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>>384248393
i agree with the quote, i just don't like that the second mention of the word "happy" is emphasized, i feel like the second mention of "you" should be emphasized
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>>384247979
No, I mostly make accessories and dioramas for tiny robot girls.
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>>384245231
Such bullshit.

Everyone has to acclimate to the bullshit of day to day life, which means 8 hours of boring shit work every day and you can't escape it.

I just want to be left alone.
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>I AM SO LE DEPRESSED
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>>384247865
when you have to say your job is better i already know it isn't xD you'll probably kill yourself in a few years due to you faking your faggot feelings. Pathetic
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>>384248176
What you eat, how much you sleep, what you do or what you don't, all these can affect your brain chemistry and make any symptoms of depression far worse, a change of habits can permanently affect how the brain reacts to stuff like bad thoughts, which makes all the difference, the meds helped to deal with depression while it was far more intense but those never were the whole therapy. While i do sitll get to think bad shit once in a while, it hardly affects me like before or causes the ammount of pain or concern it used to do like 3 years ago when i still was under medication, depression, as i knew it, it's gone.
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