Total War thread

File: 1479519860212.jpg (167KB, 292x303px) Image search: [Google]

167KB, 292x303px

VENGEANCE!

Who the fuck is the Old Friend holy shit

File: Gotrek and Felix.png (163KB, 300x321px) Image search: [Google]

163KB, 300x321px

>>384240786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhDkfdpJYp4

File: vampiro.png (100KB, 211x245px) Image search: [Google]

100KB, 211x245px

SLEEP IS FOR THE LIVING!

File: Goldman.jpg (169KB, 800x800px) Image search: [Google]

169KB, 800x800px

I
AM
SUPREME

>>384240786
>implying it's not Nagash

>>384242469
Nagash is fouth LL for tomb kangz

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/early-adopter-post-launch/
>We called these big DLCs ‘Campaign Packs’ in the past, with Call of the Beastmen and Realm of the Wood Elves, but we’re heard the feedback that players would prefer larger rosters instead of the mini campaigns that came with these.
>So the biggest change we’ll be making with the first large DLC for Warhammer II is to swap out the mini campaign for two more additional Legendary Lords, for a total of 4 playable Lords in the pack. These four will each have their own factions, unique start positions, quests-chains, epic gear, benefits and playstyle… the whole nine yards. They’ll be playable in both the Eye of the Vortex campaign and the forthcoming combined campaign map, if you also own Warhammer 1. So twice as many play-through opportunities than before. We’ll be watching closely to see if players think this is a good trade.

How the fuck do I win as Bretonia, I cant even figure out the first couple of moves

File: 1468926916412.jpg (49KB, 354x352px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 354x352px

>playing as empire
>varg, skeilfags and chaos invade all at the same time
>atleast 3 full stack armies of each
>at war with crooked clan aswell and they are raiding my shit
>alt f4 and never looked back.

>>384243005
>Post an Old roll sheet

I fucked up

>>384242743
Didn't really play the mini campaigns so whatevs. I'd rather have them add units instead of LL tho. Some rosters feels really barebones (beastmen)

SUMMON

File: ROLLTIME.jpg (550KB, 1389x1419px) Image search: [Google]

550KB, 1389x1419px

BETTER ROLL CHART

>>384243509
Ralling

File: asdasdsa.jpg (29KB, 280x280px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 280x280px

>not starting the thread with a shitpost to draw people in
I don't think the thread is long for this world OP

MAGNUS DID NOTHING WRONG

>>384240786
CA confirmed that it's not a LL, and that it's just a small thing.

>>384242743
Nah, 4 LL's will be Settra, Khalida, Arkhan and Khatep.

>>384243851
Arkhan would have to be his own faction, there's no way he would work with Settra and pals.

>>384243509
Rolly poll

File: 1497302062206.jpg (24KB, 307x363px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 307x363px

>>384240725
TASTE
GOLD
MAGIC

File: 1377407008197.jpg (556KB, 1496x1432px) Image search: [Google]

556KB, 1496x1432px

>>384243509

rollen dem bonez

>>384243509
Give me something good to play

>>384243509
rollann

File: KARL FRANZ EMPEROR.png (513KB, 2212x1734px) Image search: [Google]

513KB, 2212x1734px

SUMMON
THE
ELECTOR
COUNTS

>>384243934
All 4 LL's are separate factions, just like any LL added past Grim and the Grave has been it's own faction.

>>384244026
you win

File: dude weed.png (262KB, 446x456px) Image search: [Google]

262KB, 446x456px

>>384243509

>>384244048
There's no way a new race is going to be spread across four separate factions like that

>>384242839
worst faction they fucked up badly

What LL Could they add for each Warhammer II faction after release?

>>384244314
>So the biggest change we’ll be making with the first large DLC for Warhammer II is to swap out the mini campaign for two more additional Legendary Lords, for a total of 4 playable Lords in the pack. These four will each have their own factions, unique start positions, quests-chains, epic gear, benefits and playstyle… the whole nine yards. They’ll be playable in both the Eye of the Vortex campaign and the forthcoming combined campaign map, if you also own Warhammer 1. So twice as many play-through opportunities than before. We’ll be watching closely to see if players think this is a good trade.

They literally say so in the announcement.

I AM FRANZ
THEY WILL OBEY

>>384242743
I still can't believe how the company that made Rome 2 handles the community feedback for Warhammer so incredibly well.

>>>/vg/

>>384244654
>stop talking about video games on the video game board

File: KARL FRANZ - EMPEROR.jpg (85KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 1280x720px

This is your date tonight.

>>384244654
>already talked about it in the general

File: 1495858134895.jpg (8KB, 224x225px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 224x225px

>>384244654
>backseat moderating on 4chan
Is there anything more pathetic?

File: Morathi.jpg (348KB, 1000x1414px) Image search: [Google]

348KB, 1000x1414px

>Western devs can't design attractive wo-

File: wow.jpg (118KB, 422x856px) Image search: [Google]

118KB, 422x856px

>>384244553
I don't think people hated the idea of mini-campaigns themselves, they hated that they were fucking shit

>>384243509
Rolllllllllllan

>>384243509
If you give me Gelt again i'll kill myself

>>384244314
Flc Bretonnia is.

>>384243509
I already play franz, gimme something else!

>>384242839
Load up on archers, siege marienburg asap. Trebuchet some holes in wall, shoot arrows and cycle charge through until you win.

Kill off the orc settlement to get rid of the -20 PO, take the rest of marienburg. After that you can kind of do whatever, and slowly confederate while you go crusading. At the end of the day it still feel's like you're playing a poor man's Empire.

>>384244741
My boipucci is going to be sore tomorrow morning.

File: 1479461187317.png (676KB, 1000x815px) Image search: [Google]

676KB, 1000x815px

What's the best beastmen starting position if I want to destroy Hitler elves?

>>384244918
>nipples covered

Fucking american prunes ruining everything for everyone again.

>>384243509
rollin rollin rollin

Are any race packs worth it?

I'm thinking of getting Wood Elves and maybe the Goblin pack. Opinions?

>>384243058
>at war with crooked clan aswell
at the beginning of every game you wipe all the mountains between you and bretonia/elves clean. just git gud

>>384246504
Wood Elves is the GOAT DLC pack
Dwarves and Gobbos are pretty good too
Beastmen are beastmen
Human and Vamp pack is kinda shit but if you like the factions, then why not

>>384246504
If you get them on sale. For the full price of 19 dollaridoos for each of beastmen and forest hitlers, no. Also for now the chaos faction works the worst so hold out on buying it until the bigger campaign map with TWW2.

>>384243058
when you capture an uninhabitable province you raze it, dont be a greedy fuck

razing the golbin, green skin and capture wood elves are you duty as an empire leader

>>384240725
I wish they werent so goddamn jewish with the DLC, i mean 20 bucks for a single race? What the fuck

>>384243768
You were right

>>384248003
A lewd picture would probably work too, get some vaguely pornographic image of a wood elf or something

>>384240725
I'm so glad they buffed his bonuses.
With the extra Lord points mod, he's actually pretty fun right now.
The greatswords and mortar are a brilliant starting combo

>>384246504
Skarsnik is practically mandatory for greenskin runs, since skulkers and squigs are so ridiculously useful against early game dwarfs.
Also the goblin and night goblin Lord buffs stack together, making goblin armies borderline OP against unarmoured armies

>>384243509
Kek

File: IMG_0134.jpg (78KB, 711x540px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 711x540px

>Tfw you park 4 armies at Kislev and wait for the apocalyptic showdown

>>384243509
Just finished chaos... so as long as its something new...

So what will the Old Friend be

>>384251649
Probably Krell.
Possibly Gotrek and/or Felix

>>384247986
The constant sales on Steam have fucked the pricing of everything on there. Loads of DLC is now stupidly expensive to sucker in the people who can't wait for it to be cheap.

>>384243509
ok

When is the Skaven reveal scheduled for?

>>384251649
>The ‘Old Friend’ will indeed be our next content drop for WARHAMMER, it’s tied to an event later in the summer. I know there’s some excitement, but it’s just a small thing that we wanted to do. Think along the lines of the Blood Knight Free-LC, rather than lords or anything. Not saying it’s a unit specifically, but that sort of scale addition to the game. The event gave us the chance to do something, so we took it.

The event it's tied to is probably CA's 30 year anniversary in august.

>>384252969
No idea, they're doing an 8-part "ritual" where they give you artwork and such if you solve riddles. There's still 5 parts left. So probably within the next 4-5 weeks.

>>384244301
You SUMMONED THE ELECTOR COUNTS.

>>384247986
New animations and models can cost a lot.

>>384253084
Ah right, well I'll just wait for all that be done with then.

I am really curious to see what they're going to do with the Skaven though since expendable troops is something that seems pretty difficult to implement in a Total War game.

I recently bought TWWH and only played about half an hour so far trying to find out what's different to other TWs
How the fuck do I find out which weapon type I should be using? I have cudgel infantry and sword infantry and I have no clue what the difference is

Even if they're not doing mini-campaigns anymore, I would still like to see one for Karak Eight Peaks.

I wish there was just one post in threads like this one that doesn't talk about Warhammer but other Total War titles.

File: EbinBoris.png (49KB, 900x846px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 900x846px

>>384253745
By all means make one, or start the discussion yourself.

I just recently started playing this. How far am I supposed to take the empire's borders before I overextend? I don't know if I can wipe the chaos all on my own.

>>384253745
I am a terrible general so my technique in every TW consists of just building a line of whatever infantry is the best at holding the line and letting the enemy walk into it
For some reason, I can play like twice as many battles in gunpowder TWs before I get bored. I guess it really is all just about the spectacle

>>384253358
Way I'd do it is to have no morale loss for slave deaths, and add an extra two slots for Skaven armies that can ONLY be used for slaves.
Artillery and ranged units can also fire into melee with no obstruction, with morale loss scaling depending on how high value the unit is.

That first one should honestly be added to any unit marked expendable

>>384253509
It should all be on the unit card stats. If there's some extra bonus it will be indicated, for example bonus vs large for spears.

>>384243509
Rollan dollan

>>384253509
Cudgel, hammer sword and 1h axe units all counter spear/halberd units.
Spears and halberds counter large units, with halberds being better against armoured large units.
Great weapons counter armoured infantry.

>>384254535
So there are no inherent advantages and disadvantages to different weapons? If I have an two-handed sword unit with no damage modifiers and a cudgel unit with no modifiers and they have the same attack value, they will be equal in damage against every unit type? I imagined the weapon types were some kind of rock paper scissors thing

>>384254729
>>384254751
Guess I should have refreshed before posting
So basically just use whatever infantry hits the hardest as my main units with spears as dedicated anti cav/big unit? Sounds good, I'm used to that from every single other TW game
Well okay, I guess in Shogun 2 yari walls and in M2 pikes were pretty good line infantry because of those bugged engagement ranges

>>384254929
>>384254751
Well you have the flat weapon damage stat, but if you hover over it then you can see it's made up of basic damage plus armour piercing damage. The other guy was correct, but there are some differences between the various weapons of the same general type.

>>384255574
>some differences between the various weapons of the same general type
Those probably don't matter too much when picking units though, right? At the end of the day, it's not like you have a Europa Barbarorum tier selection of spear units and have to choose whatever is the best one out of 10

>>384251649
Disappointment in downloadable format.

>>384243509
Ooga booga roll

>>384254460
I was wondering if maybe they'd give you slaves for free, like a bonus to every stack that you'd always get even if they all died in the last battle. If you have to protect them like a regular unit then they're just a single use speed bump.

>>384255814
Shouldn't do, no. Generally you just get higher tier units which are straight up better, rather than two spear options with slightly different stats.

>>384255902
FREE disappointment though

>>384255902
As long as you don't have to go into a GW store to get the code like we did with Grombrindal then I'll be happy with whatever the fuck it is.

>>384254929
Also remember that counter is somewhat relative.
A Group of spearmen will still be fucked against a giant, but the point of them will be to limit the damage it does, and make it not be worth the damage it takes

>>384242743
Hmm, I like the mini campaigns for fun and unlocking the side LL but I will say I prefer a larger roster to a mini campaign. I'd rather the mini campaign separately.

File: carthage.jpg (878KB, 986x1369px) Image search: [Google]

878KB, 986x1369px

>>384240725
>$12 for TW Rome 2 Emperor Edition

How is it?
Is it still shit like at launch?

>>384256401
Nah, they hammered it into a working state eventually. I mean, you still might think it's shit though.

Is there even any point in investing in anything but battle skills for your heroes?
>gee dude do you want 25% more combat damage or +2% tax?

>>384256610
Depends on the hero. The ones that buff your regular units and the campaign map movement skills are usually great.

>>384256401
Yes, they put so much effort into those shitty graphics the battles are just blob vs blob

>>384256610
Campaign movement is great, lightning strike is obviously very useful. Or special skills like Alberic's port income.

Did they ever reveal the contents of that new free DLC/patch thingy coming this year? I've heard rumours of Norsca or Border Princes getting a real roster.

>>384256610
>tfw Gombrindal the White Dwarf skills are broken as fuck

For what purpose?

>>384257105
They'll show gameplay via Stream on Wednesday.

>>384257130
Just for fun I guess, he's meant to be the ultimate dwarf after all.

>>384240725
Any tips for playing attila? Starting out as western empire and getting totally btfo.

How does Chaos play? Reviews for the dlc on steam seem quite negative on how they work.

>>384257130
I thought all non-free DLC content was OP

>>384257328
Hell no. Beasties are crap and the only 'OP' thing about Grim and the Grave and King and the Warlord are the Regiments of Renown.

>>384257319

They have the horde mechanic. Meaning your towns are the armies of your faction. You can upgrade them with buildings and settle down for reinforcement.
You will always run on negative gold and your main source of income is pillaging other regions. Quite fun faction if you ask me. Just don't really enjoy their campaign that much.

File: Iseesomeshit.jpg (201KB, 1024x576px) Image search: [Google]

201KB, 1024x576px

Why later total war games have less voice actors than medieval 2? Also, I really miss general's speeches cutscene in Medieval 2. But at least they implemented that in Empires faction, I wish they also put that too into Bretonnia faction.

>>384257319
Chaos corruption is worthless, you need to beat every garrison 1.5 times which makes the campaign slow and formulaic as fuck, Norscan AI is cancer, troops need to be constantly merged and dismissed, you'll need specialized hordes that have trouble trading troops if you don't want to have a boring roster for most of the game. It's just a poorly thought out shitty campaign. Which is a shame because their legendary lords are pretty cool.

>>384257276
Let the AI take everything but your core provinces in Italy and Africa. Defend those like crazy and build them up until you're ready to build the empire all over again.

You are going to have to fight literally hundreds of settlement defence battles, it's more a test of endurance than anything else.

>>384257319
Like a horde from Attila with absurdly slow growth and super expensive units. They're fine when you get going but it's kind of a crappy start in my opinion.

>>384242839
Literally, hard mode. Git gud

>>384250956
>having 4 armies to spare at any point before chaos arrives
how
which faction

>>384257709
English does this thing where questions use auxilliary verbs as predicates while keeping the original verb in the infinitive. You got it half-right already, now repeat after me:
"Why DO later total war games have less voice actors than medieval 2?"
It's also fewer, not less

>>384257785
I should add that the Attila ERE and WRE campaigns are two of the hardest in Total war. You probably should play something else first.

>>384257878
It's maybe possible with Orcs.

File: hqdefault (5).jpg (11KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 480x360px

>>384257923
Thanks

>>384256610
campaign movement is mandatory on everyone

>>384243509
ROLL THEM BONES

>>384256610
Goblin buffs, lightning strike, upkeep reduction and some of the eite buffs are damn good.

>>384258368
>Suneater

Aw fuck I never even touched Chaos before

>>384258108
>>384257065
>>384256804
Is campaign movement really that vital? Forgive me for speaking from a position of ignorance (just started my first campaign), but it appears to me that overall you're usually confined to a smaller part of the map than in other TW games, since your objectives lie around you and there's not really any reason to blob across the entire map

>>384257878
Orcs, Dwarfs and Empire can manage it pretty well

>>384258469

You will never catch your opponent if your armies are slow. The mouse and cat game sometimes get fucking ridiculous in total war warhammer. Force march stance was a mistake.

>>384258469
Being able to run away faster or catch raiding shits is pretty important. It can also be the difference between a city falling or not.

>>384258469
It's not just useful for traversing long distances, but for catching armies that are raiding your territories.

>>384258469
It's not for long distance movement, it's for catching the AI armies.

>>384258602
Forced march having an initial movement cost mod is mandatory

>>384258602
>The mouse and cat game sometimes get fucking ridiculous in total war warhammer.

Especially with the Orcs and Dwarfs teleporting around you.

>>384258658
>>384258625
>>384258605
>>384258602
Sounds like I have some fun times ahead of me
Can't wait to pingpong like vanilla Crusader Kings 2

SKAVEN REVEAL WHEN?

>>384243509
rollan mcdollan

>>384257319
The main issue for me is that you are forced to play incredibly cautiously because one over-extension on the campaign map, one lost battle, is game over. It fucking sucks and doesn't fit the faction at all. Beastmen at least have the option to hide or beastpath away; with chaos you are just fucked.

>>384258823
soon soon

Actually, not that soon. 5 weeks or so I think.

How do you unlock Kislev and other human factions?

>>384259120
In the 3rd expansion

>>384258867
It seems like they just decided to have them play like the Huns from Attilla because that worked well without really considering how it would play out for an infantry heavy faction.

>>384259146
Fuck.

>>384259120

With mods. They're still reskins of Empire. Apparently there's gonna be a new free DLC coming later this year that might have something in store for those factions.

>>384259228
The Huns also started with 2 or 3 hordes. Meanwhile, Chaos has one and starting another will bankrupt you and waste your precious growth.

File: zhGvLCGy5umxxAgGtfkXdb5btzyKuCwWT179dHEcfew.jpg (57KB, 500x561px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 500x561px

>tfw no prince AND emperor husbando

>>384259379
And the Huns get cheap, effective units.

>>384259321
But they're there, in the game, just controlled by AI. wtf?

File: 364360_20170317010038_1.jpg (705KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

705KB, 1920x1080px

THEY WILL BREAK UPON THIS FOREST LIKE WATER ON ROCK

>>384259379
When I started with Chaos I instantly made a second horde because that would have been the sensible move in Attila.

>>384259483

I mean go ahead and unlock them with mods but why would you want to play as them when they're 1:1 reskins of the empire factions without any legendary lords? The point of getting a DLC for them is to give them those lords and unique units.

>>384259625
Oh, ok I see.

thinking about picking up warhammer
I read that not all factions can control all settlements
can you still just wipe out every other faction even if they're not your primary goal?

>>384260113
Yeah, you can raze any province.

>>384260113
yeah, though I've never heard anyone actually controlling every settlements. the map is huge.

>>384243509
rrowwallling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I161bchiCiY
2 second teaser at the end

Trailer tomorrow.

File: 1477759878814.webm (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1920x1080px

>>384260559
CGI trailer too. What they are showing must be big for them to give it that big of a marketing budget.

>>384260732
>>384260559
Holy shit, Chaos Dwarfs confirmed.

>>384243058
>he didnt cleanse the goblins near him within the first 20 turns

you fucked up

Played Rome earlier. Accidentally clicked the automate battle thing. Think it bugged out, cause apparently my capn with 73 units won against 700.
4 losses, then he got attacked again, this time by 500. Figured I automate it again, see if it happens again. It did.
Heroic Victory in deed, motherfucker's smart as fuck to win against overwhelming numbers.

>>384244918
So who's rolling DE first campaign with nothing but slut armies?

>>384260954
Maybe you just had superior units

>>384261298
Yes, right after I play at least two Skaven campaigns.

Norse tribes up in the north were supposedly "normal" people like other human races, right? until they got corrupted by the chaos, somehow. I'm not really into Warhammer lore

>>384261632
They're basically exaggerated vikings. They probably always worshipped Chaos though.

>>384261342
Just some hastati

>>384261808
>hastati
yea, probably bugged out then

Out of Rome 2, Attila, and WH, which one is the best?

>>384260865
Goblins are mainly for bullying, not wiping out.
If you sack their cities repeatedly and keep raiding, your diplomatic relations with other human nations will skyrocket

>>384262197
I'd say Attila over Warhammer, it's close though.

>>384262197
I'd say Attila. It's the most challenging of the 3. But "best" depends on what you value more in the game. Although I'd say there's no point playing Total War if you don't want a challenge.

>>384262197
Warhammer, easily

>>384262197
I really like Charlemagne campaign and Bretonnia campaign reminds me of Medieval II. I don't know. Why not both?

>>384262197
medieval 2 with lotr mod, I just wish I can make myself play with orcs though, I just hate playing with horde units and prefer elites, thats why I hated barbarian invasion

>>384262619
I do enjoy Third Age TW but the map is so fucking huge, and unlike WH, they don't compensate for that by having you do stuff in your vicinity. Instead, everything just takes 5 times as many turns as it does in vanilla

>>384262471
That's true, the Eastern and Western empire campaigns feel like the only seriously difficult main campaigns in Total War. They're hard even if you put no constraints on yourself at all.

File: londinium_001.jpg (530KB, 1920x1037px) Image search: [Google]

530KB, 1920x1037px

>start creating historically accurate city maps for attila
>ca never releases more tutorials and conversion remains broken to this day
could've been neat

>>384262546
The Charlemagne campaign had some pretty nice ideas, it's just a bit lacking in variety. I mean, I realise that's just the time period.

>>384262197
WH has a higher level of unit variety and focuses more on the battles.
Atilla has a higher level of Campaign management.

Depends on what you find most entertaining personally.

>>384243509
roll, hope i get something good!

File: 1357292142450.jpg (44KB, 680x629px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 680x629px

>>384243509
Playing Gelt now, let's see who I get next

>>384243509
Alright, here we go.

>>384255814
Depends on if you're in the campaign or multiplayer.
In the campaign you can usually have at least one horrendously Overpowered army that will curbstomp anything up to the Chaos invasion.
In Multiplayer, all teams get a set amount of cash to buy units with, and that's where the counters really start to matter.

In campaign, for example, you can get a legion of Demiggryphs and charge them full on into spear lines knowing that you'll rip them to shreds, even with their slight bonuses.
In multiplayer, you'll only have a few top tier units, and you really need to have those where they count, otherwise that thousand plus gold investment is going to get a good kicking from a unit barely worth 400

>>384266018
That campaign sounds pretty good
I loved getting to a point where I could just wreck shit with legendary units and heroes in King Arthur

Greenskins desperately need an anti large unit that doesn't fucking suck.
Boar Boy Big 'uns are amazingly terrible.

>>384242743
it'll be interesting to see how Settra works when you're playing another TK LL

>>384266765
I've not played the online battles in TWW, how are they?

>>384243509
Gimme somethin good

>>384267452
Fuck yea! wheres my pegasus and flaming sword?

>>384267305
They can do some decent damage against isolated cavalry, but they're slow and have little armour, meaning that sending them after any monster or cavalry that's stuck in the melee is a one way ticket to getting tarpitted.

>>384267557
Also, I need hardly add that the fact that they're so damn slow means that the only thing they can catch in the open are monsters, which anyone who's not a retard will have close to the fray.
Sure, you could wait for them to disengage, but what sort of an idiot wouldn't see that and exploit it?

>>384267557
>>384268496
It's always odd how much difference there is between the campaign and online, they're reasonably useful against the AI. I don't envy them having to balance everything for both.

>>384267557
Definitely the Greenskins' major problem alongside no real support for Ahzag in the air, while gobbo archers make for decent blanketfire against any sort of hero squad their dps even with the renown unit can't match a lord + 2 heroes. A spear-chukka might help for anti large.

>>384242743
fuck lords just give me more unique units that ever faction can use something like "mercenary units"
warhammer has tons of mini factiosn like kislev, arabia or Tilea at are never going make into the games as their own factions but they could still give us one or two units for each of them

>>384268947
seems like mercenary units might be getting added in 2 if the rogue armies are anything to go by

>>384268637
I'd give them something like Stone/River trolls as an anti large, spear-chukka and some flying units.
Only problem is that there aren't any they could use from the tabletop, but they managed something with Brettonia, so they could probably whip something up,

>>384269029
well guess I´m to retarded to read.
yeah that sounds very likely and an ultra cool concept.

>>384262619
Isengard's got what you want. You get heavily armored Uruks with sword/shield and pikes to fuck them Rohirrim up.

>>384243509
rolls for the roll god

>>384269128
I'm not even sure what flying units they could come up with for orcs. Baby wyverns maybe.

>>384268947
That would be awful, allowing you to cover your factions weakness so you can play them all exactly the same with the exact same army composition. Dwarfs don't have cavalry? Just buy some mercenary cavalry! Wood Elves and Vampires don't have artillery? No problem, just buy a couple mercenaries! Well done, now every faction plays the same.

>>384243509
Rollan for CHAOS

>>384269941
Flying squigs.

>>384269946
the just make them exclusive to bretonnia and the empire for all i care. just give me some more unique looking units that add to the world building

>>384269897
Looks like you're >>>/tg/54369389 buddy

>>384269946
They'll probably limit it rather than let you just hire stacks of mercenaries.

It's a choice though, you don't have to cheese it, and it would be nice just to have some new interesting units from the dogs of war pool.

>>384269897
rerolling because I'm a poorfag with no miniatures

>>384243509
rollareno

>>384243509
ROLL CHAOS GET

File: 1401522664413.png (9KB, 298x279px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 298x279px

>>384270139
>Description: Wurzag's been muckin' about again

>>384243509
rolling for BURN IN ARCANE FIRE

>>384269946
Just restrict which mercs work for which factions.

File: 1495860682916.png (392KB, 842x768px) Image search: [Google]

392KB, 842x768px

>>384270640
i knew it
i just had to get the old fuck who keeps barking his name like a pokemon

So is the endgame of every WH campaign to just build full stacks of whatever big-ass almost invincible unit you have and steamrolling?

>>384270386
Regiments of Renown are a choice too anon, but look at how the AI handles them. Christ, it can barely handle basic army composition.

>>384270640
You poor bastard

>>384270891
It's a Total War game, yes.

>>384270967
Get the AI army composition mod. It also gives the Chaos Invasion better units

does anyone else feel like they really fucked up artillery? Ive seen them take out 10 units with one strike is pretty common.

>>384271127
In other TW games I at least built a bunch of heavy infantry and then flankers

File: 1417575014042.jpg (489KB, 900x696px) Image search: [Google]

489KB, 900x696px

>>384243509
WE'LL HAVE A RECKONING

>>384243509
Something New

>>384271253
I'm so sorry, anon.

>>384271170
>Ive seen them take out 10 units with one strike is pretty common.
What? RoR Empire artillery can't even pull that off.

>>384271210
Well, it is entirely up to you what you build.

>>384248824
This doesn't work. It just devolves into porn dumps and then trapfags roll in and further ruin the thread by being le lewd x3c

>>384271170
Not sure about that, but Hellcannon can be fucking horrible in certain situations when the AI brings half a dozen of them.

>im playing as the dwarf DLC faction on hardest diffuculty
>Make it to around turn 20 defeat orc neighbors
>Suddenly TIliea and Orcs make a confederacy/alliance against me
>2 stacks of Feral Orcs in my city 2 stacks of regular Orcs and a stack of Tilea in my city

I did nothing for the AI humans to even be hostile against me....

GIVE ME GOTREK AND FELIX hack&Slash game ffs like GOW or Space marine its not that hard...also i want them in total war

>>384271373
It's really up to the game though, because I can't stand playing intentionally inefficient armies
A completely different question: Does it matter whether you put your archers in front of or behind your line? They never seem to direct-fire anyway, always shooting in giant arcs

File: CWE-F_xUEAAkDF1.png (51KB, 599x338px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 599x338px

>>384271557
>It's really up to the game though, because I

File: tombkingsnotinTWW2.jpg (35KB, 583x439px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 583x439px

WHERE ARE THE TOMB KINGS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>384271712
Have you ever heard of the Squats,
Anon?

File: 1387247231880.jpg (870KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

870KB, 1024x768px

>>384261808
>>384262134
>doubting hastati

>>384271701
Yeah. Just compare it to something like an RPG, if there's a straight-up objectively best class it's not my fault I pick it every time

I AM FRANZ
THEY WILL OBEY

>>384271557
No, it doesn't really matter with bows and crossbows. Surely part of the fun of Total War is building thematic armies though.

>>384271712
Slated for release right after the Chaos Dwarfs.

>>384271885
It's not the game's fault you have weapons-grade autism.

>>384271885
yeah it is actually

>>384243509

FHEG

Age of Sigmar

>>384271998
I just like efficiency

>>384272060
We've got TWW now, nothing of value was lost.

File: IMG_9703.png (260KB, 600x654px) Image search: [Google]

260KB, 600x654px

>>384243509
VENGENCE

File: 1487639702990.png (80KB, 780x780px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 780x780px

>>384270891
>So is the endgame of every WH campaign to just build full stacks of whatever big-ass almost invincible unit you have and steamrolling?
If you play with a small number of armies, I guess.
I don't know about you but I always try to build multi-purpose armies and then use their counters effectively.

For example I could just build 19 steam tanks but it's more fun to have handgunners, halberdiers, cav, arty, and a few greatswords instead. That way unlike you I can maintain 9 different armies in different theatres at once.

What you're talking about is pretty inefficient. To be honest I only put a high number of elites (greatswords, demigryphs) in my LL armies, while generic armies just get normal unit comps (swordsmen, empire knights).

>>384244741
Does he bring any friends? OwO

>>384272530
What is the most efficient army comp I wonder. Loads of trash stacks to autoresolve?

>>384271170
Depends.
I find that Straight shooting cannons are underpowered and get blocked far too easily, whereas catapults and mortars retain a lot more usability throughout the match.
Hellstorms are ridiculously good against the Undead, Empire, Beastmen, Wood elves and greenskins, Volleyguns wreck Brettonians, dwarfs and Chaos into the ground. Hellcannons and doom divers are absolute bastards to deal with for everyone.

>>384272530
does the table top work that way??? how close is to the original?

>>384271971
>2 is adding the Southlands
>implying TK won't be the first race pack

File: 364360_20170401092100_1.png (3MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1920x1080px

>>384250956

>Bitch nigger Chaos suddenly is afraid of facing me when I had equal numbers.

It became this 18th century style maneuver warfare where all our time was spent trying to maneuver against one another into an optimum situation. They would venture down towards my southern city, I'd position towards it, they'd move towards that city in the screenshot and I'd reposition.

>>384272380
A shame I don't have beastmen I guess I'll just paint my figures

>>384272768
Table top has army limits.
>At least 25% of your points total must be spent on Core.
>You may take up to 25% Lords.
>You may take up to 25% Heroes.
>You may take up to 50% Special.
>You may take up to 25% Rare.

>>384272530
The beauty of The Empire is that it can have an elite and highly versatile army simultaneously

File: 364360_20170401222057_1.png (3MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1920x1080px

>>384272978

The bright side is it led to this hilarious case.

>>384273023
You should recheck your math, that's 175% you fucking idiot

>>384273023
Or if you started in 4th and 5th edition, 90% on Lords.

>>384272915
Won't they save them for the third game?

File: 1477770849398.png (490KB, 856x428px) Image search: [Google]

490KB, 856x428px

>>384272978
>mfw deliberately leaving a town defenceless and laying all my armies there in ambush

>>384273169
>up to

File: 364360_20170401222323_1.png (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1920x1080px

>>384273083

5 seconds in.

>>384273232
>when you reply to point out a mistake but make a mistake in your reply and delete your post but everyone can still see it anyway

>>384272712
>Loads of trash stacks to autoresolve?
Probably super expensive units to autoresolve
The most "efficient" is trash/cheap units that you're just really good with using, which was my point with maintaining a high number of cheaper armies across the world instead of a small number of cheese armies
The way you win is like anything else; lord sniping, hammer anvil, skirmishing, etc
I had one fight against beastmen that I replayed 3 times but eventually won since I did some weird maneuvering to trap them all in a pocket, while running my handgunners/FC around behind and unloading on them, while using cav to pick off strays that went after them

I forget the numbers but my gunners had hundreds of kills each, I even had to cycle charge with them to break morale because they ran out of ammo

>>384273254
Yeah because that makes sense
>take 100% army strength
>other guy took "up to" 175% and is now 1.75 times as strong as you

>>384273184
they're not going to leave a big fucking unoccupied gap where the TK would be between the Old World and the Southlands for an entire expansion

File: IMG_9319.jpg (94KB, 720x1000px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 720x1000px

>>384273216
>mfw I did this

I'm thinking of picking up a TW game.

I am thinking of either Empire/maybe Napoleon, Attila or Rome.

What would you all suggest?

File: 364360_20170401222334_1.png (3MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1920x1080px

>>384273216

That's a good idea. I got so tired of chaos bullshit of fake-retreating and then sicking all their stacks on my attacking force (usually so that even if I withdrew they'd have one ready to come in and attack me and get all their fellow stacks as reinforcements) that I opted to play to win rather than play for honor or challenge.

Part of me would be happier with half as many chaos stacks but twice as much survivability of said stack. It gets exhausting and impossible to do well having to fight off 3+ stacks especially with fucking cocksucking chaos chariots.

>>384273339

Six seconds in.

>>384272978
They really ought to change chaos AI.
Currently they clump together like bitches and take a ridiculous amount of attrition before you even fight them.

File: 364360_20170408044921_1.png (3MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1920x1080px

>>384273610

And speaking of chariots, beyond your comprehension

>>384273508
Are you pretending to be retarded?
Spend 50% on special, you only have 50% left. 25% must be on core, so you only have 25% left. so 10% here, 15% there. What's the matter with you?

File: ASININE MORTAL.png (2MB, 1680x1200px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1680x1200px

>>384273730

>>384273557
Is this your first TW game ever? Those choices are good, just pick whatever period you like best
Medieval 2 is also quite good and Shogun 2 FOTS is the best gunpowder TW

>>384273521
They left the Skaven out of the first game.

And wait, one of us is geographically confused here. The Southlands isn't going to be in 2 is it?

>>384273557
Do not get empire. Buy Fall of the Samurai if you want guns.

>>384273862
It is, alongside Lustria, Naggarond and Ulthuan.

>>384273848
>>384273868
Yeah it will sort of be my first TW game, I had Medieval 2 but couldn't get into it.

Is Shogun 2 a solid game then?

Cathay when?

File: Screenshot (27).png (26KB, 778x78px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 778x78px

>>384273862

File: 1469937225770.gif (2MB, 200x200px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 200x200px

>>384273961
>>384274165
And the Under-Empire, yes, yes

>>384273961
>>384274165
Wow, I didn't even realise that.

So it'll just be the Dark Lands and all the eastern stuff that barely gets a mention left for the final game.

File: 1423865362847.jpg (886KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

886KB, 1920x1080px

>>384273557
Shogun 2 is a great starting point
Atilla is also a fine choice, if a bit more complicated
Warhammer is the current hot shit

I recommend Shogun 2, apart from the first Rome I think it's the best game for it's time. If you don't mind older stuff, check out Rome or Medieval 2. Avoid Rome 2 unless it's on sale and you just really like the time period.

Empire is okay, would be good but is riddled with bugs and problems that have never been fixed. I haven't played Napolean so I can't comment.

>>384274061
Base Shogun 2 is great, Fall of the Samurai is an expansion set during the Meiji Restoration or whatever that period was called so it has about the most advanced guns you can get before getting into modern war squad tactics
Feel free to pirate the game though if you're not sure about actually liking this kind of gameplay

>>384274260
the third game is going to be Daemons of Chaos with Ogre Kingdoms and Chaos Dwarfs as DLC

File: 1409318358211.jpg (47KB, 514x343px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 514x343px

>>384273216
>other nation finally sieges my crappy border town after having been chased out of my territory three times
>crush them and chase them into their own territory
>take a bunch of badly defended cities
>loot them, raze all the buildings and let them rebel
>leave them to their ruins and broken dreams

I love turtling in TW

i bought attila and a bunch of dlc from steam sale. what should i think of it? haven't played it yet.

>>384274260
+ an expansion of the Chaos Wastes, it stretches a lot further than shown on the map in TWW and includes various chaos fortresses to the north, ruined cities, god-aligned ziggurats and general warp fuckery.

>>384243509
Doing it for my boy Karl

>>384274061
Sort of. Depends on how much of a Sengoku boner you have. All the factions are basically the same except for start position.


If can't name 3 daimyo off the top of your head, just get fall of the samurai stand alone.

>>384274407
Enjoy the AI taking 3 minute turns.

>>384274559
That's not necessarily true, I am about the biggest non-weeaboo there is and Shogun 2 stands well on its gameplay alone. I prefer Medieval 2 but that anon said he couldn't get into it
>tfw can never remember which part of the japanese leader names is the first and last name

File: ChaosDwarves.jpg (582KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]

582KB, 1024x683px

>>384243509
Best boys aren't in yet, but let's see what we get

>>384274407
Just try the WRE starter campaign at first. Don't jump into playing the smaller factions before you know what you're doing.

>>384274698
Those guys remind me of Dark Iron Dwarves from warcraft. Is there anything blizz didn't take inspiration from?

Why do the Varg do nothing but spam fucking chaos chariots for their armies

>>384274891
>Is there anything blizz didn't take inspiration from?
With regards to warhammer, no.

>>384274891
Warhammer is just a huge mass of inspirations anyway. Except for the Skaven I guess.

File: 20161009135205_1.jpg (620KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

620KB, 1920x1080px

>>384274407
Pretty good. My campaign basically split the world in 2 with the Geats (Norwegians) + european allies on my end vs the Sassanids (Middle East) + african/asia minor allies on the other

>>384275142

>Rats
>12 main "tribes"
>Hidden plot to conquer the world

Oh there's an inspiration alright.

>>384275142
Warhammer FB is actually fairly original.

>>384275316
only moderately more original than any other Tolkien ripoff

>>384275316
You think? It's just Tolkien crossed with Moorcock really. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it was a great setting RIPIP etc.

>>384275291

>>384274469
Guess I'm off to jerk off. Thanks Karl

>>384275445
Dwarves, elves and Orcs all behaved in ways that were unique to the setting.

>>384274909
Because they don't get 120 armor infantry units like Horde Chaos does.

>>384274695
Traditionally it aught to be Family Name then Given Name, but it gets switched around so much these days for some weird reason.

File: latest.jpg (1MB, 1434x975px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1434x975px

>>384275316
>Warhammer FB is actually fairly original.
hmmm

File: DeathclawTan.jpg (667KB, 1030x1200px) Image search: [Google]

667KB, 1030x1200px

>>384243509
KARL FRANZ

>>384275603
>Elves are either uppity mortals or tree huggers, with an evil flavor of the uppity version
>Dwarfs are grumpy and like crafting shit
the real differences are the presence of Chaos, Lizardmen, Skaven, and evil versions of classic races, along with general tech level

>>384243509
Why not. Rolling.

>>384275603
They're still recognisably dwarves, elves and orcs though, just with a different spin.

>>384275845
uppity immortals, rather

>>384275845
>>Elves are either uppity mortals or tree huggers, with an evil flavor of the uppity version
>>Dwarfs are grumpy and like crafting shit
Now I don't know enough about Warhammer to know whether they actually started that trend, but hippie tree huggers is not tolkien elves

>>384275843
Deathclaw is NOT for lewd!

>>384275843
THEY WILL OBEY

>>384275845
>High Elves are haughty but quite close allies to men and don't view themselves as inherently superior
>Wood elves are gradually turning into trees and will violently mutilate anyone who breaks a twig
>Dark Elves serve a god of murder and enslave and rape whenever they're able
>Dwarves are stout creatures fond of drink and industry but have absolutely no sense of humor and are easily offended.

They're unique enough.

>>384275925
WHFB Orcs are actually unique. Tolkien Orcs are small cowardly creatures.

>>384276469
The only thing that really stands out about Dwarfs to me is that in other settings they're stubborn but friendly and good allies, whereas in warhammer they're dickheads who keep a giant book of every time someone stepped on a Dwarf's shoe

>>384276469
>no sense of humor and are easily offended

Isn't there some sort of dwarf rap battle thing where they both diss each other like in a rap battle. They do have a sense of humour its just more dwarfy.

>>384276108
>what are Silvan elves
they're even fucking called Wood Elves in The Hobbit and the elf word for Lorien elves literally means tree-folk

>>384243509
I hope i get chaos

>>384276682
>they're stubborn but friendly and good allies
this is also true in Warhammer but only if you're the Empire

>>384276817
I specifically added the "hippie" identifier to point out what kind of tree-huggers I meant. Just because they fucking love themselves some nature does not mean they are pacifist dudes
That's like saying all tolkien elves are effeminate wimps cause they love songs and language

>>384276682
when are they dicks? Only time I can think of is when they went to war with the high elves for shaving that guys beard and that was only because the high elves also murdered some dwarf. Not really the dwarfs being dicks..

>>384276469
>no sense of humor and are easily offended.
Get the book

File: are you fucking kidding me with this shit right now.jpg (280KB, 606x972px) Image search: [Google]

280KB, 606x972px

>>384276974
>added an adjective that was not there originally to argue with a point that was not made

>>384276936
Nah, they'll march whole armies into the empire because some peasant made fun of a dwarf's beard.

>>384277131
so have you actually read any Warhammer lore or are you just operating off memes

>>384277131
No? At most the dwarf would beat up the peasant. If he did go to the high king for the grudge then he would just ask for gold from the chieftain..

>>384277231
Have you? Or are you just operating off Warhammer wikia?

>>384276705
Every verse would be its own grudge, so probably not

>>384277121
Yeah m8 because when you hear "tree hugger" the first description that comes to mind is "war-like race of people who happen to love nature"
Shut the fuck up

>>384276976
They razed an entire city for 5 coppers.

>>384277465
so that's no, then

File: CzzBZ2NVIAAn5bC.jpg (498KB, 2000x2829px) Image search: [Google]

498KB, 2000x2829px

>>384276157
Objectively wrong. Here's baby Deathclaw

>>384277231
>>384277371
It's most likely a meme, but it's not unlike the dwarves to march a whole clan against the empire over a grudge.

>>384277757
The clan would probably have more grudges against rival clans and those clans would take the time to ally with the empire to settle there grudges with those dwarfs. I don't think that actually happens.

I really want to fuck deathclaw

>>384278028
>and those clans would take the time to ally with the empire to settle there grudges with those dwarfs
It seems very unlike the dwarves to rely on anyone but other dwarves.

>>384276682
>>384276469

There's also de gold fever, which is a anctual psychological defect spread across the whole race that can shatter a dwarf's common sense and even moral wheel at the sight or promise of the fucking metal.

>>384276469

Chrace has the most unique flavour of High Elves, with hillbilly lumberjacks carrying axes and wrasslin' lions to prove their manliness.

>>384278195
the Dwarfs are the Empire's oldest and staunchest allies

where the fuck do you think the runefangs and Ghal Maraz came from

>>384277720
I don't think this action has Karl Franz's consent...

>>384278409
It's a very tsundere relationship

>>384244584

Problably really passionate about the franchise because people have been wanting this for goddamn decades.

Granted, it wasn't until after the Beastmen DLC that CA realised they struck oil. That shit sold more than some entire titles and every DLC and content update have been great.

File: THIS_ACTION_DOES_NOT_HAVE_MY_CONSENT.jpg (64KB, 430x469px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 430x469px

>>384278634
No, but it has the EMPIRE'S BLESSINGS, YES

File: Absolutely insect.jpg (37KB, 562x600px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 562x600px

>>384243509
rollllllll

>>384262197
Play Attila first. All of the autistic features they took out of warhammer make it a lot of fun. Put as much time between W2s release and buying warhammer as possible, get that discount.

>>384262619
nobody mentioned medieval 2. twg died because of you people

>>384269946
vampires get a mercenary option that fits their faction.

>>384275316
>>384275445
>Tolkien -> DnD -> Warhammer -> Warcraft

>>384243509
lets go

>>384279538
>DnD -> Warhammer
D&D is another evolutionary branch entirely.

File: 1377291976783.jpg (109KB, 600x400px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 600x400px

i want to marry and start a family with the Everqueen

File: 1418004501429.jpg (432KB, 867x1300px) Image search: [Google]

432KB, 867x1300px

>>384279760

>>384271810
I don't get the obsession with Squats. They had miniscule role in the setting, and apart from being techno-dwarves, they didn't do anything interesting.

>>384279650
All were inspired by Tolkien fantasy, who cares

>>384256401
It's really fun now

>>384279963
GW had a period where they went ridiculously OTT with the banhammer when anyone even mentioned them. Naturally this lead to even more people joking about how they were the best thing ever and it ruined 40k to remove them.

The reality is that, at the time, ALL the armies were just as shallow as squats were. The difference is that they never got the 3rd edition update to make them something more fitting and interesting because nobody could be bothered.

File: IMG_9704.png (366KB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]

366KB, 800x450px

How do I get good with the stunties?

>>384246278
FOOL. You lack imagination.

People say in Shogun2 you just have to spam ashigaru, right?
But the AI always gets their own bonuses so my dudes always falter first. Do I just need more armies (at the cost of advancement) And to just give it a shot?

>>384280387
Q U A R R E L E R S

or just use Grombrindal

>>384276469
>>High Elves are haughty but quite close allies to men and don't view themselves as inherently superior
Literally only Teclis thought that way because he was emo the high elves hated him.
The high elves are like one step down from CWE when it comes to how they treat humans.