Play Quake you fucking sissy

>>384228679
Champions is dumb

>>384228709
fpbp
Champions sucks

>>384228679
I bought quake 4 and Its stuck in low ress and I have to do this config file bullshit.

>>384228679
>Champions
Not my Quake

>>384228709
Good one bro can I be in your class too?

>support Betheshitsda by playing nuQuake
nah I'm good, shekelberg.

>>384228775
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>384228953
You don't have to support shit there is a f2p option

>>384228679
>Sure let me fire up QC for some fun t-
>*10 minute queue*
>*once you get in players are getting perfect rail gun shots every time
>Air rocket like they are all f4tality

I'll stick to Overwatch

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>>384228679

Play Counter-Strike you fucking geezer

>>384229176
you sound like a little girl that's playing video games for the first time

>>384228679
Quake is a dead game, part of a dead genre, and it will fail as all other attempts at replicating those games have failed.

>>384229282
i do almost every day now go play quake too faggot its good for your bones

>>384229378
Well, QC has about 70 people playing it for a reason. No new blood, just curious Quake Live players.

>>384229480
>Quake
>Good

Pick one

>>384229405
>other attempts

by indie devs? what attempts have their been by any major companies in recent years? epic games is working on unreal tournament but it's pre-alpha and not even on steam like quake will be.

>>384229519
>70 players
just no

>tries to get good at quake
>cant because there are no low or mid level players
>i get fragged before i can really do anything

I...i...want to love quake but its so hard when you dont play against people that suck too seriously why is everyone so good?

>>384229802
practice its not that hard
learn to circle jump, strafe jump, combo weapons and you will feel like an absolute gangster

also rocket, lightning gub. railgun are your bread and butter so get those, you should probably make keybinds for those too
people tend to use Q for RL,
E for LG, V C or R for RG....you get the picture
Binding jump to Right Click helps alot for bunny hopping.......protip,,,jussayin,,hrmmmsmsm

>>384228679
>Quake
Na Im good, no one wants to play this shit

Doom 4 MP is more of an arena FPS than Quake Champions

>>384230443
Can't tell if this is actually helpful advice or legitimate autism

>>384230560
being this retarded

>>384229026
Quake 4 gets fucky on newer PCs like a lot of idtech games and so you need to do some shit to the cfg file to make it work properly

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>>384229613
wrong

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>>384230560

>>384228679
Played a bit during the open beta weekend. I couldn't believe how boring, bland and underwhelming it was.

Fuck QC, Titanfall 2 is still very much alive and as fun as ever.

>>384230857
>>384230698
>no ults
>no "muh heroes"
>alt fires
>double jump
>better maps
>not f2p everlasting-beta garbage

Literally the only reason why arena fans don't like it is because they added in some meme shit like hack modules and loadouts

But that doesn't actually detract from the fact that it's one of the most fun, frantic and fast-paced shooters on the market

Still, I wish id themselves did it all instead of it being outsourced

Would have been even better

Quake died for a reason, and Champions is dying for the same reason.

It's become an oldfag's game. Wrestle needlessly with the controls to do basic shit. Steep learning curve with no help for those that didn't grow up with it. Gatekeeper community.

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>everything they added/changed only serves to detract from the core of the game and balance
>all sorts of shit you can stuck on in the levels because they have to have super detailed "actual graphics"
>audio is super reverby and muddy
>no good tunes, just ambient shit
>rubbish spawn logic
>10+ minute wait time for auto matching
>still a shitload of technical issues
The game is such a cluster fuck, but I didn't really expect much after TNO and Doom...

>>384231156
>Wrestle needlessly with the controls to do basic shit.
Yes it doesn't hold your hand.
QC is shit though

>>384228679
No, it's shit. The netcode is utter garbage and it doesn't feel nearly as good as older Quake games.

>>384231156
I didn't grow up with quake so it's too hard
This kind of entitlement is exactly why we make fun of your generation

>>384229604
Quake Live was an attempt by a big name developer and it failed. Also one can easily tell that Quake Champions is a fairly low-budget title.

>>384231389
Hand holding is one thing. "Push WASD to move around" is hand holding. Not everyone knows how to bunnyhop effectively. Not to mention firing while moving like that is very uncommon in gaming for the past 10 years. It's not a surprise nobody is playing since it ignores the good advances in gaming while embracing the shit.

I have to ask. What sort of updates to the Quake model would be necessary to make a Quake 5 that would actually draw the alleged playerbase.

For the purpose of this exercise, consider that the game contains a campaign in line with Q1-Q2, while the multiplayer is just doing its own thing.

>>384228709
this.
>Unmoddable
>Less ass and titties
>missing features
>bad visuals

forced matchmaking in an arena shooter has 0 chance of success

it's like they thought they'd double their audience by doing it, not realizing that everyone hating it was even an option

>>384231604
>the alleged playerbase
There is no playerbase. If there were the countless other arena shooters that were made over the years wouldn't have failed.

Britbong here and 50% of games are unplayable due to lag, at least on the beta. When are they releasing the game?

>>384228679
Real quake is dead, quake champions is retarded.

>>384231461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDfyYymAkpU
>>384231589
moving AND shooting?!?!
>>384231723
the playerbase is whoever the marketers say is the playerbase
the reality is that it doesnt matter how good a game is just how effective the marketing or word of mouth is, just look at how many people play overwatch and various half functional early access shit.

>>384228679
this is proof arenafags will never be happy

>>384231698
This isn't true though at all..I love matchmaking in games
Literally what brought me back to counter strike after 12 years

>>384231976
>just look at how many people play overwatch
Overwatch has qualities which lots of people like. In terms of art it appeals to the masses by having cute characters as well as "cool" characters like ninjas. Quake looks simply outdated in comparison because people don't like that grimdark look any more. Overwatch has plenty of characters that don't require FPS skills, it's a team-based game, it has ultimates that allow even bad players to kill someone, etc. - even with good marketing Quake Champions couldn't replicate its success.

>>384228953
>Betheshitsda
if you have to stretch it like that, don't bother at all
Beshitsda would've been better

So id software will get shut down for this uh?

>>384232320
I much prefer Bugfesfa

>>384232435
Nah, but they'll probably just be the company that makes a bi-annual refresh of DOOM while also being cucked into working on other titles.
Quake Live was perfect, they should have just ported it to a new engine and replicated it completely, THEN experimented with bullshit mechanics.

>>384232530
also good
so long as it's the same amount of syllables, it's fine

>>384228679
K, can I play a healing class?

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reminder that:
- quake is dead because YOU -- yes, you -- don't bother to play it
- there will not be any future quakes if you don't play QC
- quake live will be shut down a lot sooner if you don't play QC

>>384229604
>what attempts have their been by any major companies in recent years?
Quake Champions

>>384228709
if bethesda made weapon switching faster and added a server browser champions would be top tier

>>384231589
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good advances in gaming

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>>384228679
id rather play DOOM

>>384231698
>X Arena Game will die because it doesn't have matchmaking
>Y Arena Game will die because it has forced matchmaking
>Z Arena Game WILL die because it will have optional matchmaking

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PLAY QUAKE YOU FAGGOTS

IT'S YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT

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>>384228679
Does the game have any maps with trees plants and such? Closed spaces and concrete all over make me sick

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I do

>>384228679
b-but I'm too shy ;_;
maybe if I had a steam bf to bully me :3c

>>384232072
>wow, a car enthusiast doesn't like the power wheels version of his favorite car

>>384234314
terrible game, QC may not be good but at least it feels like a proper quake/idtech game

>>384234135
It can try something different in ways like interesting new weapons or maps

>champions

ill pass i will go play the original instead

or maybe even unreal gold

>>384228679
>load up game
>four currencies staring you in the face
>characters that do different things and have different hp

"Quake"

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>>384235721
does it have an FOV slider?!?!

>>384235571
lol, quake champions doesnt even fully run on idtech, it's a bastardized mashup of idtech and some literally who engine

Doom runs on the cutting-edge idtech 6 and feels like a truly modern interpretation of the iconic id feel

>>384228679
Fix the framerate first

>>384228709
fpbp

did they fucking fix the hitreg
if not fuck off

>>384236069
>two weapon limit
>QTE melee
DNF got roasted for this just half a decade earlier.
Why is it OK for nuDoom to do this crap?

>>384236486
>two weapon limit
>doom
are you fucking retarded?

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>>384228953
>not writing Methseda

>>384236486
didnt play confirmed

>>384231239
>>all sorts of shit you can stuck on in the levels because they have to have super detailed "actual graphics"
Not anymore, they updated it so that you warp through the details

>>384228679
Quake Champions is garbage. I still play QL every now and then though.

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>>384236612
What's this then?


Literally generic space marine shooter with loadout, unlocks and RPG elements

>>384235828
obviously, what kind of game doesn't?

>>384237096
Enjoy playing dead game with no pros.

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>>384236069
>IDtech is good meme

Is that some fucking bizarre world?
Their engine is DOGSHIT.

It was DOGSHIT in Wolfenstein.
It's DOGSHIT in Dishonored 2.

>>384237104
you almost got me

>>384236069
yes it's not idtech but it imitates the movement accurately enough
Doom is a piece of shit and id made concious decisions to remove anything even remotely related to the older version in terms or movement, input and visuals
> iconic id feel
I don't think you know what that is

>>384231663
But_its_STILL_BETA.jpg

>ultimates
>different hp and abilities for each hero
Why? They want ASSFAGGOTs audience?

>>384238959
The classic arena genre as it is now is dead; they've been perfected; a solved game. It needs mechanics from other genres for it to become alive again. It needs players - and nobody plays arena fps in the current years

>>384238959
>>ultimates
To compare room cleaning, spam q to win button to abilities that feel more like something a fighting game would have it's pretty autistic. Overwatch really left terminal brain cancer on anyone who play it.

>>384237112
Cancer-Strike (fixed 90)
and Overmeme (60-103*)
*more like 90-ish

i dont play overwatch clones
or any fps/tps with shitty skills with coldowns like if i was playing a mmorpg

QC is a shit Quake game but still leaps and bounds better than CS or OW or any other modern FPS game desu

Anyone who says otherwise needs to git gud

>>384241409
But CSGO is good - it's like literally the only "slow" fps that's good.
Needs 128 tick servers though

>>384231131
Champions looks to have way better movement. Did you even play nuDoom's MP?

>>384236069
idtech 6 is pretty garbage, though. Performance issues up the ass on older hardware.

>>384241496
>"slow" fps
>good

>>384231131
Doom MP was trash, QC is pretty good.

>>384242745
You heard that right. And it's not like people can't go fast in csgo - it can be done. That game's engine is a distant cousin of idtech after all