How the fuck do we stop him?
Ask his imouto if she can tell him to take a break. If she can't, then he's here to stay and we can do nothing about it.
>>384213636
even p5 couldn't stop him from popping up.
>>384213636
It's okay. I got this.
stop him from what
>Yu's going to impregnate literally every female in fiction
The fucking madman
>>384213636
Joker can take him
>>384213636
You don't
>>384213636
Joker > Yu
Steal his heart
>>384217178
FeMC > Everyone else
>>384215595
Door is a little busy at the moment. Check back when humans are extinct.
>>384213636
Like this OP
https://youtu.be/HDgMr4qbLGs
>>384213636
Door kun could since he's a canon player and it's canon that he was able to romance Elizabeth.
>>384217508
One of these days they are going to take a coffee break. And boy you better ready your anus.
>>384213636
Leave Chad to Toaster
>>384217096
Leave Chad to me.
>>384216140
Joker can't even take his own attendants.
>>384219485
But he did. Those loli attendants were all over his dick. Lavenza says that Joker is the greatest man in the world and she loves him.
>Yu Narukami now has access to every girl from Blazblue, UNIEL, and RWBY
It's too late
>>384219485
Nobody is perfect
>>384220435
good thing GG ladies are still safe, fuck chad narukami
>>384220540
Nodboy is safe from his charm.
Wait. Why did they use P4 again and not P3? Goddammit japan stop milking that game.
>>384220528
TWO LOLIS
W
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L
I
S
I don't need to stop him. Once I have Nanako, I win.
>>384221048
It's just a matter of assets, I think.
>>384221048
>most recognisable out of the franchise
>expecting them not to use Yu as the go to
>>384220528
nothing will ever top margaret
>>384221048
P4 is the only one that has fighting game assets already. They're just reusing them for this crossover, but people have blown it out of proportions
>>384221228
>>384221183
Eh, fair enough.
Even the greatest of warriors have a weakness. Take that away from him, and you've already defeated Narukami
>>384221504
That's how you create world destroying villians you fool.
>>384220528
Will he ever come back /v/ros?
Can't wait for dem Adachi and Hazama bants
>>384213636
Chad can't be stopped
>>384221220
I don't understand why people love to jerk off over Margaret. Yu hardly interacts with her in the game, and her social link is just fusing Personas. What am I missing?
>>384221715
>Enraged Narukami flies off the fucking handle, becoming Adachi 2.0 but with more seductive charm
Last surprise> Reaching out to the truth
>>384222401
Is this even a debate?
>>384222401
>>384222434
I prefer reaching out but you guys are allowed to have your opinions. Let's keep this civil
>>384222085
>sexy older woman
>flirty
>romantic shit at the end of her link
what's not to love
>>384222085
She's less annoying than Elizabeth
I don't know if Yu can win the swag battle against Ragna.
>>384222892
>Ragna
>swag
Ragna's for jobbing and suffering. Yu vs Hyde though
Leave Yu to me
>>384223285
>>384213636
Shoot him in the face
>>384213636
>>384217394
Who? Persona has only had 1 Female Protagonist and she doesn't look like that.
>Narukami wears Spectacles of Eros
Is there any force on heaven or earth that could even hope to combat this threat?
>>384213636
>My least favourite Nu-Persona protag is by far the most popular, while Minato got 0 play in spinoffs and even Joker will be overshadowed in his own fucking games
>>384220435
>Yu Narukami could potentially sow his seed into the Nasuverse
>>384224000
what a waste of trips with a shit opinion
>>384224000
that's not true he was featured prominently in PQ
>>384224000
It's better this way. You don't want Atlus doing this -> >>384223406 to MC, do you?
>ishiwatari reach out to the truth
>probably battle for everyone's souls too
>the almighty
hold me bros
>>384224438
I actually like the P5 cast so I wouldn't mind for the first few games. It would only really bother me if the flanderization was as bad as it was for the P4 cast.
>>384224431
Ok yeah to be fair I forgot about Q, but I'd say that's justified. Plus it's nothing compared to how popular Yu is.
All this constantly shitflinging between Jokerfags and Yufags just makes me want to see the two of them become best buddies in the inevitable crossover to shut everyone up.
>>384221220
Except for Chad Narukami
>>384224000
Joker will get his time
>>384224742
>Arsene is easily one of the best designed personas
>Useless without re-fusing, skill cards and the gallows
At least Golden with the easy to get skill cards made doing an Izanagi-only run more fun to the point that's the only way I play 4
>>384224695
This is the first Persona thread I've entered since the game came out, for this reason lol
I will say that anyone who thinks P4 is better than P5 in any capacity is a fool
>>384225082
5 is better gameplay wise, but no group will ever top the IT for me
>>384224695
I wouldn't say Chad is the most popular. That's really just a meme. P5 and by extension Joker have already surpassed P4 in popularity by introducing new people to the series
>>384224695
Does no one understand bantz anymore? fucking hell, we all agree the persona games are fantastic, we're just having a little fun
>>384213636
how the fuck am I supposed to roleplay as chad thundercock in a game when i am a beta virgin irl
>>384225050
Izanagi is aesthetic as well
>>384213636
Turn Nanako into a slut
>>384225991
S O C A L
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>>384213636
>How the fuck do we stop him?
You literally can't. Hand all Waifu's over to Chad Thundercock.
>>384215595
Except, it's canon that Door-kun's waifu's also fall for Yu.
>>384226636
Where does it say that?
>>384226636
It may as well be canon that as soon as a person looks a Yu they immediately become attracted to him happens often enough
>>384226636
>Except, it's canon that Door-kun's waifu's also fall for Yu.
In Q you can put p4 girls on Door-kun dick so it works both ways. Well Aigis and Liz are Door-kun only.
>>384226706
>>384226732
>>384226706
In the canon Manga, Mitsuru and Yukari both fall for Yu, and he's working on the rest.
>>384226896
>canon
>manga
>>384215595
Do people seriously think Door stands a chance against Chad?
>>384226732
Chad has always had one glaring weakness. His absolute desire to eat fucking anything found in a fridge. Poison the fridge. Kill the Chad. Never saw it comiiiiiiiiiiiiing.
>>384227063
Chad is canon gay for door
>>384226868
Okay, so where does it imply she fell for him. Or are you just memeing?
>>384227063
Door is stronger because he has to compensate for his lack of control over his teammates
>>384227072
What a stupid ass insult
This is like saying "you're way too good looking! I don't like it one bit*
!"
We aint through with the Yu
>>384227358
>>384227385
The entire cast of P3 are weak shitters.
Persona 2 cast are probably the strongest.
>>384227458
See -> >>384226991
>>384226636
>Except, it's canon that Door-kun's waifu's also fall for Yu.
Only Mitsuru and even that's tentative.
Aigis is still Minato-sexual, Fuuka shows no interest, and Yukari doesn't interact much with him.
>>384227458
Do women actually think "nice and calm" is attractive? Would Narukami actually be swimming in teen idol poon in real life?
>>384226163
I love Izanagi's design so much. it's my phone wallpaper
>>384227265
You can love someone who's weaker than you
>>384227561
NO they FUCKING don't
>>384227458
i hate this shit
>be nice and calm
>happen to not be 8/10 or better looking
>get the shit ignored out of me all of my life
>>384227453
How can one man be so P ER F E C T ?
>>384227626
Do you interact with people?
>>384227626
Are you also as cool as Narukami?
And in Yukari's defense, her other option was Teddie.
>>384227521
>Only Mitsuru and even that's tentative
No she doesn't you idiot
>>384227519
Keep telling yourself that door-kun
>>384213636
Leave Persona to me!
>>384227698
Fuck off
You might actually be my least favorite MegaTen protagonist
I
>>384227458
Can't win against true OTP
>>384227696
You must be new to Persona, otherwise you'd know the mangas aren't ever canon
what happened?
>>384217518
>>384227698
Anon pls don't use nanashi like that you don't want to end up like that one demifiendfag.
>>384227683
the thing is, if everyone looks like a 10/10 anime guy, then i can believe that girls are interested in someones character or virtues, since everyone is equally good looking
but that's not how the real world works
>>384227781
>it's not cannon when chad wins
stay sealed door-kun
>>384227770
Sorry you were overthrown by Nanashi power level wise Demi.
>>384227689
She admits in Arena Yu reminds her a lot of Minato.
>>384227561
Yes, because he's physically attractive as a bonus.
>>384227779
Wait Fuuka is a fujo? I don't remember this.
>>384227908
>>384227826
>He didn't side with Dagda
Just embrace the edge Nanashi
>>384227908
Stay delusional Yufag
>>384228076
Well to be fair when you etch your fucking greasy finger into the machine-equivalent of the very soul and being its got to be like...a +5 anti-NTR bonus surely.
it wouldn't matter if Yu was a black man in a korean authored pictobook.
>>384228239
To be fair to be fair, Persona Q happens before that event happens between them.
>>384228056
Are you really surprised?
>>384228303
Stop arguing with this guy, he doesn't know what he's talking about
>>384228303
To be fair to be fair to be fair, fair enough.
>>384228086
>implying that I wasn't a good boyo.
I am horribly offended by that, I would never betray daddy dagda like that.
I am just saying don't use nanashi for shitposting he is above that.
>>384217518
Damn
>>384228334
Hey fuck you man, I know about all about greasy fingers and NTR.
>>384227561
Yu is tall, confident, handsome, smart and cool. Yes, yes, he would be swimming in poon as much in real life as in the game(s).
Minato is shy, awkward, aloof and unfriendly. It's not really surprising his bitches move over to Chad Narukami.
Chad is a big guy.
>>384228460
>It's not really surprising his bitches move over to Chad Narukami.
Except best girls Aigis, Fuuka, and Liz.
>>384228412
I'm sorry for your loss.
>>384228516
What the hell is a Fuuka?
>>384228460
You forgot to include autistic in Chad's list
>>384227798
Yu's been put into a crossover game with BB, RWBY and some others. So now his harem is even bigger.
>All the P4 girls
>All the P3 girls
>All the bonus girls from the crossover games
>All the BB girls
>All the RWBY girls
>All the UNIEL girls
He can't keep getting away with this!
>>384228526
Hey, you should have seen the other guy.
>>384228560
Are you serious?
>>384228412
Well that explains everything
>>384213636
Oh boy, /v/ is doing that shit again where they make dozens of threads about the same unfunny shit over and over.
Time to leave for a month or so I guess.
>>384228645
Anon, we're in a thread discussing the inclusion of a crossover character in a fighting game entirely by virtue of how much he's going to fuck absolutely every female he encounters, and that this state of affairs is as unfair as it is inevitable.
Of course I'm being serious, what the FUCK is a Fuuka?
>>384228601
How mad will P5fags be once he appears in the inevitable crossover game and fucks Makoto and the Christmas Cake?
>>384213636
>stop him
From being worst Persona MC?
You cant.
>>384228668
Have you tried extending the period?
>>384228785
STOP, I BEG YOU.
>>384228785
Makoto and Futaba will probably stay loyal, Kawakami wouldn't be in a crossover game. Ann is gonna be giving it up for sure though and Haru isn't much better.
Hard to say about Lavenza, she might be as loyal as Liz.
>>384228785
Joker is the Cake master
Yu is only good for hunting teenage puss
>>384225991
>Chad Thundercock
>Not Wang Thunderwang
>>384228906
wang doesn't rhyme with wang, dumbass
>>384228883
Makoto definitely isn't staying loyal. She's just a Mitsuru/Naoto clone and those types are easy pickings for Chad.
Futaba will probably fall for his charms, but her heart will stay loyal to Joker since she's so autistic.
Kawakami is definitely falling for Yu. No old woman with a ticking biological clock can resist Chad genes.
>>384219483
I'd totally be down to watch Joker take Yu's boipussy to pound town
>>384229003
>>384228889
>Joker takes the other teacher, the milf, and the grandma
>Chad get's makoto, futaba, ann, haru, and hifumi
sounds like a good trade
>>384228785
He'll take all of Joker's girls. He just can't compete.
So I guess this going to be /v/'s new meme for a while, huh. I guess I can wait it out
>>384229003
I meant Chang Thunderwang, my bad.
>tfw considering going gay for Yu if he was real
So this is what girls feel like around alphas.
So does this mean we'll get memes of this God Joker fucking with the cast of RWBY and Persona? Because I'm down with that.
>Chad ziodynecock is now traversing dimensions to bang girls from othe franchises.
The absolute madman, how can any character from any franchise compete now?
No woman from any from any franchise is save from his overwhelming charm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV99oYiopi4
>>384228785
Yu is a massive pussy when it comes to older women though, doesn't even fuck his teacher
>>384224613
>I actually like the P5 cast
You liked that cast of bland nobodies?
>>384225221
>P5 and by extension Joker have already surpassed P4 in popularity by introducing new people to the series
Cool horseshit bro
>>384213636
If Yu is such a mack why does he fuck insecure tomboys?
>>384225221
>P5 and by extension Joker have already surpassed P4 in popularity by introducing new people to the series
>A game that was just released a year ago has already surpass a game that was milked for 4 years, had two successful anime series and a plethora of merchandise
Are all P5babbies this retarded?
Will she ever become relevant again guys?
>>384230093
You call it whatever you like, friend. Doesn't change anything really
>>384230098
>Rise
>Yukiko
>Ai
>Tomboys
>>384230197
She was never relevant in the first place
>>384230209
>Rise
>Yukiko
I was talking to the people with half decent taste, not the dumpster divers, calm down there.
>>384230168
P5 is best selling persona game and already have registered domain for like 4 spinoff
>>384230168
http://personacentral.com/persona-5-best-selling-release-atlus-history-japan/
Not as retconned as P4fags that's for sure
>>384230197
As soon as door-kun stops being a door.
>>384213636
>How the fuck do we stop him?
>>384230389
*retarded
Well, fuck. I'm going to sleep
>>384230209
>Didn't fuck any of them because he's canon gay
>>384230275
>doesn't support chad thundercock
>thinks rise and yukiko aren't top tier
the epitome of bad taste
>>384230670
>thinking Larry is top tier
>>384230861
I think that would only strengthen it really
>>384213636
Turn him into a chick.
>>384231091
I posted the wrong picture, sorry m8.
>this will happen in P5U
>>384222184
now THAT is a villain
easy.
>>384227698
>>384227826
>>384227965
>>384228358
>>384232109
Ya did good, kid.
>>384225991
you have to eat pounds of beef in order to pound the meat
>>384231880
Ryuji already was "cucked" in main game.
>>384225050
Is leveling Arsene with the Reaper flu trick viable?
>>384232551
I more meant getting good skills for him so he's still not using low level death spells
>>384230001
Yu would be about 22 during P5 though
Age gap won't mean much to him anymore
>>384227445
>yu dont give a fuck
Yu is pretty cute.
>>384228883
>Ann is gonna be giving it up for sure
But she's Ryuji's girl.
Yu can have Makoto though, I want to see Makotofags sperg out since they're the worst part of every P5 thread.
>>384232725
FeMC fags are the worst
>>384227453
ass for days
>POST YFW ATLUS RELEASES P4 REMAKE ON P5 ENGINE
>>384232748
>But she's Ryuji's girl.
fuck off back to /pg/ shipfag
>>384213636
Is he the ultimate video game Chad?
His power level is so high he broke out of his own series and now fucks girls from other franchises
>>384231880
Why the fuck did P5 love shitting on the broest bro character in the entire series?
>Morgana won't stop calling him useless every five seconds in the real world and the metaverse
>Everyone calls him a moron for saying ANYTHING
>Morgana fucking off because he can't handle the bantz is treated as Ryuji's fault
>Survives a dangerous situation and gets beaten the fuck up and left behind at night
>>384232840
>Fuck off shipfag
>Posts a ship
Are you merely pretending to be retarded?
>>384225991
its "chad' naru-"mami" "ziodynecock"
>>384232949
Shipping party members is autistic, Shipping the playable character with a character that's already romancable isn't
>>384225991
You can start by sucking cocks as Yu is canon gay
>>384232658
what a pimp
>>384233042
I don't understand that logic anon.
>>384233193
Of course you can't. you're a brain dead shipfag
>>384232757
I'm sorry your taste is so shit anon.
>>384232798
>>384232850
>>384233239
>Shipping the protagonist with someone isn't autistic
>But shipping party members is
Seems arbitrary and autistic to bitch about that desu.
>>384233253
>>384232850
>He need to broaden his horizions, like those shoulders of his...mmm I love yu....
>>384233245
They just turned Door-kun into a stereotypical Genki. Hows that an improvement, and dont you dare fucking say it's because she's a cute girl. That's literally nothing
>>384232798
new engine doesnt fix horrible cast and mediocre story
>>384233447
I'd take a Genki over the absolute nothingness that was the original Door-kun. FeMC seems like a person that people could actually be great friends with and rely on for emotional support.
Can you really see a silent, overly calm, stoic nothing like Door-kun acting very extroverted and amassing a huge group of friends that rely on him for emotional support?
>>384233701
THAT WAS THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF THE GAME AND THE FOOLS JOURNEY!
Holy fuck, "It's better because he's a cute girl! Even though it is utterly contrary to the entire meaning of the game."
I hate FeMC posters, I hate them so much, I wish I could hate them to death! You're as bad as the fucktards that hate Corrin in FE:Fates but sperg out over F-Corrin, because everything you hate about him is okay if he's a girl.
>>384233368
>things that happened in the game vs things that happened in your head
Seems pretty clear-cut.
>>384233810
When the fuck did I say that her having a vagina made the game better? She made the game better because she actually had a personality compared to the nothingness that was Door-kun. I don't care about the gender I just want some personality in my protagonist.
Are you autistic? Did you even read what I posted? It's the point of the game for the MC to be annoyingly bland? I think you're having an argument with someone who isn't here.
>>384233701
>FeMC seems like a person
Pffffft. Maybe in anime world she does, but if you were to leave the house and meet real people once in a while you'd know nobody acts like that
>Can you really see a silent, overly calm, stoic nothing like Door-kun acting very extroverted and amassing a huge group of friends that rely on him for emotional support?
Yes, because that's literally what happens with most of not all the Persona protagonists you, faggot. They're blank quite slates that somehow manage to attract everyone around them
>>384233927
But there's no canon ship for the protagonist, so isn't talking about who to romance just as autistic
>>384234095
THE POINT OF THE STORY IS THAT YOUR CHARACTER STARTS AS AN AUTISTIC WEIRDO WHO'S LITERALLY APATHETIC ABOUT DEATH AND GROWS CONNECTIONS. THAT'S THE ENTIRE MEANING BEHIND THE SOCIAL LINKS AND EVERY SINGLE SECONDARY PLOT THREAD. REPLACING HIM WITH A STEREOTYPICAL GENKI GIRL REMOVES EVERY MEANING FROM THE STORY
>>384220528
Gee Joker, why does Igor let you have TWO attendants?
>>384234121
>Pffffft. Maybe in anime world she does
So? FeMC feels more human than the normal Door-kun by the virtue of actually expressing emotion. That doesn't affect my argument at all.
>Yes, because that's literally what happens with most of not all the Persona protagonists you, faggot.
Don't you think I know that you fucking retard? I know that every SMT protagonist is a blank slate with little to no personality. Again, that doesn't affect my argument in the slightest so I don't know why you brought it up.
>>384234410
Joker saved his ass. Igor should create whole harem of attendants to repay the dept
>>384224294
Who drew this shit. Rude af, Adachi didn't deserve that
>>384234394
Jesus tap-dancing Christ, so just because someone is apathetic about death they have to be a completely nothing blank slate that has no personality? Said "autistic" apathetic person is supposedly so autistic that he can can foster friendships easily with no awkwardness or friction at all? I don't know why you're defending a literal blank slate for self insert so much.
>>384234572
>Killed people because he was bored and girls wouldnt fuck him
>Blames his problems on everyone except himself with no form of self-improvement
>Convince a mentally unstable man to throw people into TVs>Threatened Yu and his precious Nanako
Nah, fuck Adachi
>>384234737
He wasalmostgood guy in Ultimax
>>384234737
Go eat some grass, Yu
>>384234945
>>384234980
They do try and redeem adachi a bit, but in 4 by itself? Not a fucking chance. Adachi didn't believe in the power of friendship, was ieveryone knows is an instant forfeit in these games
>>384234425
>FeMC feels more human than the normal Door-kun by the virtue of actually expressing emotion.
Except he does show emotion, not all the time though, which makes sense cause he's designed to be apathetic and depressed looking. It even matches up with his backstory. Hell it even matches up with him finding his answer for life at the end and not being apathetic anymore
>Don't you think I know that you fucking retard?
Obviously not, you stupid mong, otherwise you wouldn't have made it seem like MC couldn't make any friends even though he's just as much of a blank slate as the other protagonists who, guess what, made a group friends who relied on them.
>>384234737
>Has done hundreds of times less damage than Goro
>Only killed 2 people compared to Goro's hundreds
>Killed Zero (0) of the main casts parents
>Was put in a room alone with the MC and didn't try blow his brains out
>Had a far better motivation than Goro's yearning for praise
>Wasn't invited into the Investigation Team like Goro was to the PT's
>Wasn't given a redemption plotline like Goro
>Doesn't get thousands of posts about how he should have been redeemed and been able to seek his own justice like Goro does, despite being utterly harmless next to that psycopath
Really makes the old almonds tick
>>384235065
Was Adachi secretly gay for Dojima
>>384235119
Drop the secretly part and yes
>>384235119
Why not, he's pretty hot
>>384235098
Adachi is still a murdering piece of shit, you can't value one life over another
>>384235098
>Had a far better motivation than Goro's yearning for praise
I agree with the rest but "because my life sucks I guess" isn't motivation
>>384226636
>That Yu x Fuuka wedding
>>384230045
>help a disgraced politician regain confidence in himself
>help an aspiring artist rediscover his passion
>help an underachieving delinquent learn what it means to be free
>help an ousted doctor open up to her patients and begin to help people again
I can't see how you think these storylines were bland, and if you really do I'm sorry anon :(
>>384235081
I know that blank slates are a trademark of the series and that's exactly why I liked FeMC because she was different than all the others.
The SMT protagonists being able to foster life long relationships while being blank slates haw always been a part of the games where you need to suspend your disbelief, but do you need to suspend your disbelief with FeMC? An energetic outgoing person making a ton of friends makes a lot more sense than a autisticly apathetic stoic making a ton of friends.
>>384225178
Chocolate Shop > M'lady > Information Technology
>>384231202
Done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXMoTf0EMYQ
>>384235436
Joker has as much of a personality as the FeMC without being annoying about it desu.
And the FeMC contradicts the game's themes of an apathetic person who doesn't care about death making friends and growing to fear death because he has something to live for. If you want to play as a quirky anime girl, there are plenty of other games.
>>384235678
It's not really about fearing Death, it's about wanting to live, having something to live for.
P4 will get a release on PS4 any day now whether it's a golden port or ps2 to ps4 classics port all before a P5 crimson
>>384235735
Man, rise is so cute
>>384213636
Who will be the second Arena rep?
>>384235436
>An energetic outgoing person making a ton of friends makes a lot more sense than a autisticly apathetic stoic making a ton of friends
That was the point of SEES's friendship. Their friendship wasn't supposed to make sense at first. You have an rich ice queen, an autistic boxer, a shy nerd, a perverted glory seeker, a shy nerd, a bitchy girl, a weirdo in a trench coat, an apathetic emo, an elementary school student, and a dog. They were brought together to do one job by circumstance, but stuck together because they end up going through tragedy after tragedy together. They even bring up the point further in PQ, where they even expand upon the MC. They may have given her more of a personality in game, but that's because they were never going to expand on her
>>384235897
Did Akihiko give Chie his steak?
>>384235735
What's the chances they get laura back in the fighter?
>>384235976
He gave her his protein bar
>>384229551
Terumi would a Godsend just for how incredible the bantz would be.
>>384236017
>akihiko will never ask you where you've been
>>384228460
>Minato is shy, awkward, aloof and unfriendly. It's not really surprising his bitches move over to Chad Narukami.
Did you even play p3? He literally kicks peoples shit in for messing with Yukari without even a word and has no option to turn anybody down so if you max out all his social links he canonically fucked everyone.
Quit self inserting so hard.
>>384237713
>akihiko will never tell you that you aren't prepared
Based Yu the best Persona MC
>>384222085
You're missing good taste
>>384237713
Joker > Door-kun > Chad Thundercock > Not-Canon Girl
Debate me.
>>384235098
That is because adachi is a shit that doesn't have the sheer unadulterated charisma that based best boy Groo pancakeman has.
>>384238039
Its 100% correct if you flip it
>>384234095
>>384234394
You don't have to fight, senpai-tachi. they are both shit, and p3 has the worst slinks
>>384238039
Joker=Tatsuya>piercing boy>Yu>Door
>>384238039
Joker = Door-Kun = Chad = Tatsuya = Piercy > Shit > Non-Canon girl
Why does Yu look like such a douchebag?
Is it the popped collar?
>>384223348
I don't get it.
>>384238227
He watched Happy Days and can't understand that the popped collar look just isn't in anymore.
But he emulated The Fonz so well nobody cares.
>>384238083
>>384213636
By suggesting that canon-wise he is fucking Rise?
>>384213636
I got this.
>>384234151
>But there's no canon ship for the protagonist, so isn't talking about who to romance just as autistic
The point
________
Your head
Romancable option written by and included in the game by the developer are not on the same level as head canon and imaginary playtime fanfiction that you come up with stay mad cucked friend.
feel free to keep working those mental gymnastics though
>>384238268
Yu is a scooby-doo investigator.
Joker is a phantom thief.
They are natural enemies.
>>384238227
He was normal back in Tokyo but then those country bumpkins treaded him like some god so it turned him into douchebag
>>384238318
>RPGs have never written party members hooking up with each other.
You're getting really defensive over the idea that a fictional character could take your fictional waifu.
>>384238390
Yu is from Tokyo? Could have been interesting to see him referenced a bit in P5.
Leave fucking up the world to me!
>>384238413
>RPGs have never written party members hooking up with each other.
Cool nice to hear that other RPGs do that but what does that have to do with persona since that isn't the case in this series? In the Persona games the only party members getting together is the Protags with everyone else?
>>384238565
I wish P5 Fes/whatever would have him as secret boss fight and if you beat him you unlock Apollo
>>384238413
If you are playing something like Fire Emblem and are arguing for a pairing sure it's in the game, but with series like Persona where only the MC is getting any romance options you don't really have a leg to stand on anything else is just head canon. What are you going to argue that Doujins carry the same weight as the original series they parody? How about that one Harry Potter fanfic that had Malfoy fuck Hagred?
>>384238772
DLC, 10 bucks
>>384213636
Literally shoot him?
Nothing says he's Strong against Guns
As someone who hasn't played the other Persona games, how do Caroline and Justine compare to Margaret and Elizabeth's fights?
I'd like to imagine that in a crossover Joker would be the beta in the real world compared to Yu, who's popular with everyone, but as a Phantom Thief all the girls go for him and Tokyo in general talks about his team.
>>384238913
It's the same damage race with 3 phases.
>>384238910
Nothing also says he doesn't get stronger after being shot
>>384238913
They can literally dance all over you.
The only other enemy that can use and All-Out Attack. Makes them a shit ton more dangerous that Maggine or Liz, but many people have found them to be easier than the former two.
All the MCs are just blank state self inserts.
>>384238913
Kinda more annoying as you need to beat them both at the same time or one revive another
>>384239002
Door is quiet
Narukami is autistic
Joker is a showoff
>No Troy Baker in Persona 5
Dropped
>>384238913
Easy as shit if you have samurai meme man
>>384239085
>Yusuke
How does he make it easier? I didn't use him much after I got Makoto and set up Broyuji/Ann/Makoto as my main team.
>>384239125
Yoshitsune
>>384239125
Haha, jokes
Do I have to play Persona 3 before Persona 3 FES? I bought FES on PlayStation Store, and when I was I was at the first cutscene it felt as though I should have already have known the characters who were sitting down and talking. Doe P3 and P3 FES have different stories?
>>384238971
>Joker
>beta in real world
>>384239187
No, FES is just a better version of vanilla 3. You won't miss out on anything
>>384239050
>Door is quiet
They are all quiet
P3 MC's thing is more being indiffernt since alot of his spice dialog is mostly along the lines of "who cares"
Yu is described as more weird/eccentric he never really acts autistic.
So which one of the RWBY characters is going to be slobbering on Yu's dick?
>>384239654
All of them
>>384239654
Only the lowest denominator watch RWBY
>>384239654
Probably Wiess or Yang.
Blake is too busy brooding and Ruby wants only to kill Grimm or orgasm at weapons.
Nox are probably a fascination to her, living weapon and all.
>>384239050
>>First meeting with Ann
>>"I'm bad to the bone"
Why can't more protagonists be self aware and just have fun with their edginess. Joker being a do-gooder vigilante running around dressed in red and black with Arsene like a weeb The Shadow is 1000x better than if he tried to be all broody and mopey.
>>384239125
The best team in P5 is Joker/Ryuji/Yusuke/Makoto.
That covers all 3 AoE buffs and saves Joker from having to Heat Rise himself. Which means Jokers turns are spent only using Debilitate, Charge/Concentrate and whatever his best attack is
>Ann
Minor DPS increase over Yusuke but you lose out on the Agi buff, which means your attacks hit less and you get hit more, giving the enemy more turns, overall lowers DPS.
>Haru
She can heat Riser Joker if you bring her in instead of Yusuke, obviously pretty handy, but then you're losing out on the damage increase of Ryuji, which he's either stacking on himself or not using at all. Probably evens out to similar DPS, but you're still getting hit more and still hitting less.
>Morgana
Lolno. Takes more damage than Makoto and deals far less. He's also weak to Electric which is far more common than Psychic. You don't need Salvation and she's got Diarahan, a Severe damage Nuke attack and a gun that gives +10 Stats. She's monstrously better. Plus, again, her AoE buff is far better than his debuff that Joker stacks anyway.
>Twins
The sole exception to this rule is when fighting Justine and Caroline, since you're not gonna have Joker use Debilitate on 2 people and you need to be killing them both evenly anyway. Here the best team is Joker/Ryuji/Ann/Makoto. Ann's AoE Debuff lowers your damage taken, Makoto is the best healer and Ryuji has the best AoE damage.
>>384238307
This
>>384241180
The best team depends on the situation, there isn't a set guideline for them.
That said Broyuji and Makoto are solid picks for any team.
>>384239654
All of them.
>>384241180
Actually on twins, going solo is best option. You don't need to babysit your party and can just focus on beating them
>>384241527
Only if you've got the DPS to get through the DPS checks for them. Helps if you've been farming the Reaper of course.
>>384241417
Well, in every single situation, the team I listed is the best one to be using.
>>384234737
Adachi has reasons for what he does
Reminder that he is a Wild Card that never was, a literal born Messiah
Alas, his dealings with reality meant that he had closed his heart off to everyone, so all he has to show for it is a twisted, impotent version of Yu's power
>>384241769
My playstyle was more focused on immediate damage, and I liked tanking hits rather than evading them. Ryu buffing everyone + Ann's insane magic and good AoE + Makoto's defense buffs carried me through the game no problem.
>>384241769
>Only if you've got the DPS to get through the DPS checks for them.
Well obviously you got meme samurai for them
>>384242000
Right, but this is talking about bosses. In which case you're trading avoiding hits for nothing. Ann isn't bringing any debuffs, all she's bringing is slightly more damage than Yusuke, while causing your whole team to take a lot more and to give the enemies more turns.
Even moreso, if you want to deal damage, and you're using Ryuji, then you definitely want Yusuke since otherwise 1/3 of Ryuji's swift strike damage is just going out the window.
All Ann brings to the table is damage- but you get more damage by increasing Ryuji's damage and by having Makoto have to heal less. Thus Yusuke is better in her slot.
>>384242112
Fair enough. I specifically didn't build him since it seemed far too cheesey.
I did make a Rangda that was immune/reflect/drain to everything, with Regen 3 and Firm Stance though. Beat the Reaper at lv50 by Autoattacking (didn't have any skillslots for actual attacks), was fun.
>>384213636
You can't
He's got all the girls in his game, now he's coming for your waifu
>>384242202
Ann has the best debuff skill in the game, Dekaja.
>>384242332
>Autoattacking
I assume you did buff Ragna stats quite a bit? I mean medidolaon and leach life can still fuck you up
>>384242715
*Rangda
Fight fire with fire.
>>384213636
>P4A,P4AU and P4DAN all somehow continue persona 4's story
>this game might somehow end up being canon in p4's universe
>>384243016
That makes me wonder how they're going to continue P5's story since the metaverse is gone.
>>384243016
why is Atlus so dumb
I hope Arcsys go full retard with the story just to fuck with them
>>384242915
But bitches love Yu. Very few women love Rance.
>>384243248
they brought back the TV world and Midnight Hour
don't underestimate Atlus writers
>>384243360
They love his dick though
Sho is better and a real human bean. Prove me wrong.
>>384243451
Everyone loves dick anon
>>384243248
Simple, Humanity begins to treasure Iolds, PT steal all the Fans.
Metaverse or no.
>>384243295
I's already in BB's world, going full retard will be a requirement.
I wonder who the final boss will be,
>>384243447
To be fair it's way easier to bring the Metaverse back since society's desires will always be distorted.
Imagine if the Phantom Thieves had to steal America's distorted desires in 2017.
>>384228471
UUUU
>>384228808
>smug anime poster
>has a name on 4chan
This is how you spot a shit opinion
>>384220528
Joker going to steal and fuck /our girl/ Nanako in front of Chad
Which school had the best uniform?
>>384217518
Lmao how will yuu narufagis ever recover?
>>384244096
Well then...
>>384244139
>>384243532
>I wonder who the final boss will be
Probably Super Relius.
The dude just said 'fuck this, I'm gonna go fuck around with the multiverse instead' and ragequited into The Boundary at the end of BBCF, so I wouldn't be surprised if he found a way to get godhood while in the Boundary and threw a few worlds together for lulz.
>>384241180
it goes Joker/Haru/Morgana/Ryuji you mong.
>>384244772
>Uniform
Literally only MC and his cute stalker are wearing the same outfit
>>384244772
What would happen if Doors fucked
>>384244803
Holy shit I just realised.
Carl and Shadow Labrys!
This is Relius' plan, isn't it. Bring those two together for the rage.
>>384241180
I tend to run Yusuke/Makoto and swap out the third slot for whatever I'm running into. Admittedly in NG+ it matters less; in this run I'm trying to keep Haru in more since I hardly used her.
>>384241770
That reasoning is why I think Adachi is a great character. A villian being a reflection of the protagonist is a great trope.
>>384227698
Bring it
>>384245961
Fug
Only a narcissist can stop a narcissist.
I hope izanami is in this game. I wonder if the IT will have any interesting interactions with her.
Who is the best animal sidekick?
>>384246330
Junpei
>>384246330
doggo>cat>bear
>>384246330
Koromaru
>>384237826
no point in arguing with p4fags, niggers think he is the most perfect protagonist to exist
>>384246330
Koromaru. Or Maya.
>>384246330
Mark
>>384246289
If Izanami is, and any P4 characters meet her, they will be horribly confused. But then, who isn't confused by this situation?
Especially because the Izanami they know was a corpse, not a loli.
>>384246330
The answer is always doggo.
Doggo does not need to talk, doggo loves your for who you are.
>>384246330
Ryuji.
>P5 was really good
>slight urge to play P4 for the first time
>have to slog through Yosuke, Teddy and Chie to get to any of the remotely good characters
>updated Vita version is considered superior besides some shoehorned character
>several people claim the writing is pretty dumb in 4 compared to 5 (which was still dumb as shit sometimes)
>RNG dungeon layout
>Social Links don't have tangible rewards besides fusing more demons
Is it still worth it if I've seen the show?
I prefer mainline SMT and this always seemed like the total opposite.
>>384246398
Is there anyone who can stop this man?
>>384246330
Morgana.Because he's always there for me, I don't mind the nagging. I'm just lonely.
;_;
>>384246514
>Is it still worth it if I've seen the show?
no.
>>384246514
Just play SMT4 and 4a; it's the gameplay of SMT with the atmosphere and general "feel" of a Persona game
>implying we can stop ArcSys from reusing assets for all eternity
>>384246721
IV is nothing like a persona game, only its shitty sequel.
IV is among the best mainline games.
>>384246747
>>implying we can stop ArcSys from reusing assets for all eternity
Why would we?
We all know we can never stop ArcSys.
>>384246747
xrd though
>>384220435
Wait till he gets his hands on smash girls
>>384213636
Bad ending
>>384246928
How can anyone pretend that turd IV was good and then shit on the sequel that fixed the game?
>>384228056
>Fuuka is a fujo?
she"s not, the PQ manga just likes fucking with characters
Drug and kidnap him.
>>384229063
homosexuality was a mistake
>>384246747
Then why the fuck didn't they use the melty blood?
Like fuck man.
>>384243501
Not with that artstyle
man, if they don't add Joker or Door in new BB Tag, Yu harem gonna expand all over other 3 games.
>>384248190
Spectacles of Eros will be used to counteract Yu.
>>384248190
>Implying they're not going to just reuse IT + the two toasters and call it a day
Narukami is going to singlehandedly impregnate the entire cast.
>>384248438
Toaster 2 is best waifu.
However, Narukami also has to contend with Jin, Ragna and Hyde.
>>384248438
>>384248574
>Two toasters
*three
>>384235282
The one with MC and Fuuka was better.
>>384248739
>Shadow Labrys and Carl.
Would this be hell?
>>384248071
Nowhere near big enough, it's the same reason Guilty Gear isn't a part of the crossover. Not to mention that means having to get the rights from TypeMOON and that's something else entirely.
>>384249082
neat
what does this mean for uniel sprites
>>384249241
Notice how the big Akatsuki is pretty close in size to Ragna, it's not that big of a jump. They're probably just going to get resized.
>>384249430
that means they wouldn't look as good as they're supposed to?
well I guess they can just brush them up a little
>>384249525
I mean it doesnt look that bad in the--
>Hyde & Yu visibly at a different size than the BB reps
Or it could just be MUGEN, I guess.
>>384250008
that looks fucking terrible
>>384250008
Yu is pretty tall though
>>384249082
>jotaro is small enough to crawl up filia's vagina
w e w, based jojo
>>384250432
Ragna is taller
>>384220528
>FeMC not also with Elizabeth
>>384250582
Theo replaces Liz in FeMC mode
>>384250983
Female protag fags are cucks news at eleven
>>384250983
Actually, you can pick between the two.
>>384251469
>There is an entirely new character created for her mode who is an exclusive velvet room attendant to the Female MC.
"No I'm picking Elizabeth because that is the canon choice to my canon playthrough as the Female MC Elizabeth wants to scizzor me!"
C/u/cks not even once
>>384251954
Please
Anyone with brains would go with Theo. There's no way Elizabeth would be as dedicated to reviving you if you had a vagina.
Liz is still better though.
>>384250008
MANLETS
>>384222892
Who?
>>384217518
This is better than I expected. Yu's fault for only using Izanagi though, and some one explain how the fuck Yu can see stands.
>>384213636
The only way to defeat a chad is to outchad him.
Only the ultimate chad can put an end to this madness
>>384226848
>spinoffs
>canon
>>384254389
Stands and Personas are literally the same fucking thing.
Which begs the question, how long till a Jojo villain uses multiple stands?
>>384254446
Haven't they kick his ass in persona Q?
>>384254496
>he doesn't know
>>384217198
You can't steal the heart of someone who doesn't have warped desires. Like it or not, Yu is a genuinely nice character (if you're going by his canon personality from the anime/spin-offs)
He just also happens to have maxed out charisma
>>384254667
>q
>canon
>>384228358
>>384228086
>betraying your homeboys for Dagda
You niggas are straight busta.
>>384254642
NOT FUCKING CANON DAMNIT
>>384254637
Kira.
>>384254786
THIS CAROUSEL
So is it safe to say that he's THE FACE of the persona franchise?
>>384254774
it happened, they just don't remember
>>384254787
But stands with different powers, not variations of the same one (I'll give you stray cat though).
>>384254921
If you're going by main characters, yes.
If you're talking more a real mascot, Jack Frost
>>384254930
>etrian oddysey reskin
>canon
>>384254921
He is until Persona 5 gets its spinoffs, then Joker's throwing him in the shed.
Chad's days are numbered.
>>384254739
>You can't steal the heart of someone who doesn't have warped desires
That probably change when Joker will steal Nanako heart.
>>384255048
>Megami Tensei reskin
>canon
>>384255137
Nanako would never betray her big bro!
>>384255186
>smt
Who?
>>384255218
Yu don't stand a chance against world greatest man.
>>384255532
That frizzy haired criminal better watch himself if he thinks he can dethrone the king
>>384255796
BEGONE THOT!
>>384255532
Joker has already succumbed to the BCC
>>384255218
Leave Nanako to me.
>>384255796
Introduce me to your sister... Bro
>>384255912
>THEY NEVER SAW IT COMING!
>>384255796
He doesn't stand a chance against Attic trash
>>384255894
Chad doesn't stand a chance.
>>384256287
>>384256287
I never understood this "not canon" meme. Isn't FeMC just in a branching timeline?
>All of the people talking about Yu and Joker like they're gods
>When they're the two weakest player characters
>>384256520
I mean, literally every other game ignores her. Even Theo doesn't know she exists in Q, which is actually canon.
>>384256398
>>384256520
FeMC is just as canon as the P spinoffs. So, no she isn't canon.
>>384256261
Bet this faggot can't even catch a beach guardian
>>384256551
In Personaverse? Joker with Satanael is probably the strongest, maybe second only to Universe Door but it's hard to truly measure his power
Can anyone else from nu-Persona stop the fifth most powerful wild card?
the skyrim of j-rpgs and fighting games
>>384257059
windows
really
>>384256990
I mean, Joker + Satanael is inherently hard to measure because the giant powerful attack, Sinful Shell, was fueled directly by the Demiurge's sins and Tokyo.
It probably goes
Door (universe) > Piercy > Tatusya = Maya > Aigis > Door > Narukami ??? Joker
reminder that Satanael is Fool Arcana
Stop this. Yu is for Minato only.
>>384257208
He could completely block ultimate attack from Yaldy though. And Yaldy is more powerful than Igor and any velvet room attendants.
>>384257324
So that means that Izanagi-no-Okami is more powerful, yeah? Considering it's the World.
>>384257059
The newest generation of Persona users is always stronger, seeing as how they got Personas without even being a part of Yaldy's "game"
>>384257441
The ultimate attack was blocked by Tokyo's power.
>>384257443
yes
>>384257443
Izanagi-no-Okami is World powered Izanagi. That means that we have yet to see full power Satanael
>>384257424
Yu's minor autism is really cute
>>384257484
Who are you talking about?
The only party members to not get their Personae from magical bullshit were SEES, who got theirs from Evokers.
>>384257708
That doesn't make them automatically better, faggot
>>384257567
"Tokyo power" was only used to create sinful shell
>>384257781
I never said it did.
The reason we know that Aigis is the most powerful nu-Persona Wild Card (excluding Da Universe) is because she's a 200 poind robot that can jump ten feet in the air and is equipped with rocket launchers and machine guns.
>>384256889
Joker has his third eye. He can easily catch it. I bet Chad can't handle getting drugged and beaten by cops.
>>384254637
Personas are very different from stands
>>384257884
Then what healed the PT?
Also, it's not like protecting yourself from a singular attack is hard when you can just cast Tetrakarn or Metrakarn.
>>384217518
I just noticed that jotaro left in the opposite direction from where he entered
>>384257932
I forgot to mention she can use Fusion Spells. Aigis is sort of fucking broken.
>>384258065
>Also, it's not like protecting yourself from a singular attack is hard when you can just cast Tetrakarn or Metrakarn
Not from Almighty type attack which it was
>>384258229
How do we know that, though?
>>384258301
All of Yaldabaoth's attacks are Almighty, he breaches Satanael's resistances.
>>384258369
Then how the fuck did Satanael survive it in the first place?
I think the biggest issue with this argument is that Persona lore has never been consistent.
>>384213636
>Yu is a true Chad Thundercock
>Izanagi's element is electricity
did they know it before all of us?
>>384258519
I say it's gameplay and story separation.
>>384258695
Does Aigis have a cunt?
Why are autists discussing power levels when we can discuss this
P3 = Emo
P4 = Chad
P5 = ???
How can Door boy and Harry Potter even compete?
>>384259151
Cake hunter
>>384258519
Because the Satanael you fuse isn't the same as the giant one.
>>384259151
hipster
>>384259151
Han Solo
>>384258519
because that was super satanel powered by Japan's cognition
>>384259168
Door can't compete since he's occupied atm. It'll be Chad vs Potter.
>>384213636
>CHAD THUNDERGOD
>>384259839
Which was what I was saying to begin with
Satanael only tanked that attack because of Tokyo.
>>384259168
Fusion Spells
>>384259839
Sounds like headcanon considering people haven't see anything aside from PT logo on the screen until kaiju sized Persona shows up. Igor said before fight that Joker already have power to oppose Yaldy
>>384259151
Priss
>>384260045
Considering that every protagonist's power comes from the power of friendship, Potter has them all beat.
>>384260830
They literally see the PT fight Yabbadabadoo and cheer them on, that's why Satanel powered up.
>>384260830
Yeah, and the power was the Phansite.
Powerful Personae are fueled by bonds, you realize that, right? Joker was fucked until Japan cheered him on and he could summon Satanael.
>>384223053
>Ragna
>Jobber
>>384260940
Not necessarily true. Door was only fueled by his closest friends. The rest of the world was actively cheering for his failure. Door is also the most powerful protagonist bar none.
>>384261353
>p3 fags still this delusional
>>384260984
They literally didn't. They only could hear Yaldy and Mona voices
>>384261426
That's literally what happened you mong
>>384261540
Satanael was powered up the moment the bar reached 100%.
Mishiman's website saved the Phantom Thieves. Remember that.
>>384213636
He won't stop until he fucks every girl in anime and video games.
>>384261540
they were commenting how they saw the PT beat the angels, how could they know that then?
>>384239724
>Yang
She's a dyke.
>>384261656
Satanael was Arsene with his chains broken. Joker persona literally have limiter. He used people hopes to create God killing ammo
>>384262000
That fucking howl
>>384262000
According to...?
Satanael being as powerful as it was is because of Tokyo and the Phan-site. It then used that power to harness Yaldaboth's sins and utilize Sinful Shell
>>384262357
Yes, they already have the power. Which is their fans. The power of BONDS. You know, what powered up literally every single final attack in all of Persona?
>>384237973
>That pic
>>384262435
>You know, what powered up literally every single final attack in all of Persona?
World/Universe arcana? Which Joker didn't have at that time
>>384262641
And how do you get that arcana, genius?
>>384262641
The point is that Bonds are what fueled those and it's what fueled literally everyone else.
Of course the power of Satanael is inside of Joker, because that's how the Persona universe works. Messiah was inside of Door. Izanagi-no-Okami is just Izanagi one upping Izanami, which is his fetish.
But the only way they could use that power inside is through the strength of people.
>>384223406
This has very little to do with Atlus milking P4, and everything to do with ArcSys reusing sprites.
>>384262826
By power of BONDS, yes but he didn't use it aside from syphoning peoples hope for final attack
>mfw Lavenza and Narukami beat the shit out of me once they overheard Nanako confess she loves me
>>384263057
>Wanting a shit tier loli
>>384263163
>Not wanting to steal the most important thing to Narukami
>>384263249
I mean, yeah, you have Nanako. What the fuck are you going to do with her?
>>384263361
Steal her heartthe old fashioned way
>>384263425
I mean, but why? Narukami loves Nanako because he's a family man. Joker will steal her for posterity, but eventually that will fade away.
>>384263249
That's too far desu.
Joker probably is considered Messiah by collective unconsciousness like p2 team. He probably can solo Nyarly too
>>384263776
Yeah no
P2 + P1 cast is on a whole different power level because they fight actual demons instead of Shadows
>>384263529
It's psychological warfare against the sis-con. Take away the most important person of his life and his reason to fight diminishes. After all, he can't hurt a precious person to Nanako, she might cry. His feelings on the matter are irrelevant.
>>384263425
>>384263249
>>384263057
Just try it, faggot. You'll regret it.
>>384263881
You're not thinking far enough in advance.
Mishiman is very clearly an idolfag. Narukami can fuck Rise and then throw Mishiman into a stupor, and then he'll shut down the Phan-site.
>>384263776
MC's fought the creature whose existence is the reason the collective unconscious exists in the first place. Also his ultimate persona is literally Messiah
>>384263885
You sure you want to hurt your potential brother-in-law? We should get along as a family ani.
>>384264078
The Phan-site isn't needed anymore. The time of the phantom thieves have passed and now is the time for normality again.
>>384264252
But Joker is only an alpha with the power of the Thieves
Think about it. Every girl he fucks only fucks him after he does something in the Metaverse for them.
>>384246436
He is a self insert gary stu m8
Thats not a good thing.
But it does mean that in stupid chad powrt level discussions like this thread he wins.
>>384264252
Nanako would never fall for some criminal like you
>>384263860
>fight actual demons instead of Shadows
They aren't smt demons. They were born from sea of souls just like everything in Persona. They are literally the same thing as Shadows in P5 just have different name.
>>384264362
N-no, that's not true at all. My pick-up lines are flawless and I work out while maid-sensei is in the room!
>>384264753
Only some of them.
You're forgetting that this takes place in the same universe as Raidou according to lorefags.
>>384264362
That just final touch. He make girls lonely when he's not around