.

esto es cebo

gta4 is worse than Chinatown wars and is probably one of the worst AAA games of 7th gen.

>>384209698
kys

>>384208961
I'm not really sure what people can bitch about with V other than that it's the newest and most popular GTA of all time

>>384208961
4 is just better than 3 and 5 is just below san andreas

>>384210216

u first faggot

>>384208961
I liked the driving best in GTA 4

>>384208961
I actually agree wholeheartedly even though I had fun with V until the very end.

>>384208961
Can you atleast post a template

>>384210441
The focus on the shitty online mode.

4 > VC > SA > 5 > 3

>>384210441
The game splitting itself into 3 MCs doesn't really work, imo. Also, Franklin feels really unnecessary and has absolutely no personality outside of bitching about everything all the time.

>>384208961
I agree.

GTAV feels like they didn't know what the fuck they wanted the game to be, and GTAO even more so.

>>384210795
You mean the free content?
>>384210878
That's a fair point

Which was the better game? TBOGT or TLAD

>>384211229
tlad was OK, tbogt had better personality and was more a throwback to old gta. I personally liked the brighter color scheme in tbogt.

>>384210978
Not him, but it doesn't matter that it's free. The shift of focus to Online meant less effort went into singleplayer.

>>384208961
V and SA are perfect to me.
III was meh kind boring to be honest. VC was awesome and IV was a piece of shit I didn't even finish it.

>>384212195
V is utter shit, kid.

>>384210817
>4 >
Objectively false

>>384211229
>you literally play a cuckjew in TLAD
no thanks

i love how when 4 came out everyone hated it, but now its like the second coming of jesus christ himself.

you faggots are so insufferable i swear...

>>384212370
>muh opinion is objective
Neck yourself, autist.

>>384208961
human shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GTA

>>384208961
>4
>perfect
Come the fuck on. It had many good parts, but also a lot of very shitty decisions.

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God I fucking hate /v/.
>GTAIV comes out
worst game I've ever played
Shovelware
">Normies will say it's good"
Lol nice MUH SERIOUS STORY Rockstar

>GTAV comes out
OH MY GOD THIS IS HORRIBLE
Why didn't anyone like GTAIV? That game is awesome and V is trash
">Rockstar can't make a serious game like IV ever again"

/v/ is contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, quite frankly it's embarrassing. They're both good games and have strengths and weaknesses.

>>384212657
I never hated it, but I have always hated V.

>>384208961
Vice City
>feel like Scarface
San Andreas
>feel like a gangsta
IV
>feel like a immigrant criminal fresh off the boat
V
>story jumps around so much you feel nothing

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You can see the exact moment where R* found out about microtransactions.

>>384212778
V's tone/story is far from the only thing wrong with it.

>>384209076
can't you spics ever fuck off

>>384212920
q-quality f-f-free content

>>384212137
Not really, the singleplayer had much more thought put into it than IV. Much more varied mission design and the world had more effort put into each area, making it a treat to actually explore and look around unlike the grey city blocks of IV.
I never played GTA for the multiplayer so most of the complaints about V never affected me.

>>384208961
Gta2 is the best game and your list is dogshit

>>384213094
>actually defending V's map
>"a treat to actually explore"
How does that Rockstar cock taste?

>>384208961
>GTAIV
>perfect

talk about shit taste. fucking 'muh teetees memre faggot.

III = VC > IV > V = SA

III and VC maintained the sandbox style of thinking in everything they did, missions included. I am not a big fan of how scripted/cinematic later GTA games' missions and certain side stuff ended up getting.

IV's main game is unlike anything in GTA. People saying the game moves away from Niko's character concept with all the killing you do, but in fact it works perfectly in the whole "you can't just keep running away from stuff" aspect of the story. There's a lot of tiny little subtle things this game does really well, too and it would take forever to get into them.

SA and V would've been the best in the realm of sandbox if they didn't have overly scripted stuff. SA's own personal mistakes involve taking too much time to traverse such a large map, and awful balancing for some of the missions which got worse due to the scriptedness of them as well. V's three character thing was innovative in how it was implemented, but ultimately not that useful, especially Michael's the only well written character of the three.

>>384213229
>Only the cityscape
>no optional shit except the pigeons
Uh huh.

>>384212920
Hopefully they funnel the money to make RDR2 great, but I doubt it

>>384213229
You haven't really given me anything to respond to, you just sound exceptionally mad.

>>384213425
/v/ is going to hate RDR2 on principle because of GTAV's microtransactions. There's already autists screaming about how they'll boycott Rockstar forever because of the shark cards, so even if the game is great it won't matter.

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>>384208961
Try this instead

>>384213537
It won't matter? I don't care what /v/ thinks, I care about the game

>>384213347
>pigeons
Uh wow, you really got me there.
>UFO parts
>submarine parts
>monkey art
>letter scraps
>nuclear waste
Lots of tedious busywork for your tiny brain.

>cityscape
It's Liberty City, what did you expect? It's still pretty diverse for a large city. You have the business areas, docks, suburbs, and industrial areas. Meanwhile, about half of V's map is useless bullshit - mountains, empty desert, and beaches with nothing to do.

I fucking loved GTAV. It's one of my top 10 games. Fight me, faggots.

>>384210878
Eh, I felt that Franklin was very necessary, he had plenty of reason to bitch about things, and that he had a personality. I also really liked that V's storytelling method was an extension of IV's, where the side activities were incorporated into the characterization, and the main story was only a small part of the story behind the three characters. It felt like it gave more purpose to the open world sandbox, as you hunt down the characterization for the protags and their friends during the side activities, like smoking weed, and the hangouts

>>384210216
It's spelled "kiss" you ESL dipshit. Get a grasp on English before posting.

>>384213425
RDR2 is going to turn out just like GTA V has. Prepare yourself for disappointment.

>>384213808
List your other games.

I'm playing GTA IV and GTA V again yearly playthrough

I love GTA IV, but GTA V has some moments mostly graphics if playing in ultra, going from the big countryside to the huge city and then the ocean is something that shines, variety with nice graphics.

Still the story and atmosphere of GTA IV are one of the bests of the series.

>>384213808
How's middle school treating you?

>>384213667
Man

GTA 3 into VC into SA was just so fucking good. Each iteration improving upon the last. I remember the trailer for SA came out and everyone complained about playing a Nigger on forums everywhere. The same people absolutely loved the game

>>384212920
LA Noire was Bondi. R* only published it

>>384213741
So having more shit available for you to do is bad? Then yes, IV is a good game. And apart from collectibles, V has side missions, side activities and random events.

>It's Liberty City, what did you expect?
Upstate.
>It's still pretty diverse for a large city. You have the business areas, docks, suburbs, and industrial areas.
In Los Santos as well.
>Meanwhile, about half of V's map is useless bullshit - mountains, empty desert, and beaches with nothing to do.
The other half is still larger than IV's. And again, if you like beng limited in where you can go then be my guest.

>>384213667

One of the best trilogies of games of all time.

There's no need to fight about III vs VC vs SA, each one is really great.

>>384213439
It must taste good, you shameless faggot.

>>384213924
No clue what my actual list is but to name a few: Doom 2, Fallout 2, Deus Ex, Spelunky, THPS3.

>>384214083
>larger = better
No.
>side missions, side activities, and random events
What do you mean by "side activities"? Minigames?

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>>384214249
How can you stand GTAV with that good taste of yours?

>>384211229
TBOGT is like GTA V fun elements on GTA IV, the best mix.

>>384209698
Holy shit, my nigga

>>384214305
>smaller = better
Also no.
>side activities
Meeting hikers for instance, or the piloting school and firing range.

>>384210441

Its just hating it because its popular

When GTA VI comes out, everyone will say "you know, V wasnt that bad..."

The truth is that V is pretty damn fun and extremely polished, also has lots of fun side content and cool little details. The idea that it's some garbage game is classic /v/ contrarianism.

>>384214415
I'm still mad that V didn't have actual clubs.

>>384214415
Oh shit, that reminds me, I never played Liberty City stories. I really gotta get on it.

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>>384208961
>IV
>Good
shit taste

>>384214536
There's a video out there pointing out the small details and TECHNOLOGY moments that IV had and V lacks.

>>384214536
I think every GTA is something special to be honest

>>384212920
FUCK

>>384213974
publishing is hard stuff too. I like R* publishing, wish they did it more often, Max Payne 1&2 and L.A. Noire are nice games and I found them thanks to R*.

>>384214398
To be fair I haven't played SA and IV (and missed a ton of other big titles) so V took me by surprise.

>>384214624
>>384214536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI
Not a Crowbcat fan, but the video draws a pretty clear point

>>384214305
>larger = better
If the quality of content is the same here and there then logically larger is better.

>minigames
Thankfully nobody in V coerces you into playing minigames. They're a thing in themselves. Shit, now that I think about it, you barely had any freedom at all at the start of IV, you got pretty much streamlined into doing story missions one after another for a good chunk of the start.

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Anybody who says IV>V is a fucking idiot. Did we play the same game? GTA IV has a good story, radio, and physics, but there is literally nothing to do besides the main story, after that it's either hunt for pigeons or hang out with friends, and I'm not sure why you'd do either. TBoGT and TLaD give SOME side content but it's still not as good as most of the side content in VC or SA. V definitely has its flaws but it's got IV beat on almost every front

>>384212920
Same thing with valve, they haven't released anything since Dota 2

>>384214501
I'll take a more atmospheric, higher quality game over one with a big map and little extras any day.

Neither the piloting school or firing range are very useful or fun. They should've put that time into vigilante missions or something.

>>384208961
IV sucks.

>>384212920
>2017: Nothing

RDR2 Silly

>>384214801
The quality of content isn't there.

>shitting on IV's "freedom" when V makes you "play" a shitty yoga segment

>>384214826
Because the friends and girlfriends were the source of all the side content and the gameplay rewards, plus they gave out lots of characterization to Niko and more often than not shared thematic parallels with him in their backstories. If you didn't hang out or go on dates with them sometime, you literally missed out on the majority of the game's content.

>>384214945
lol
http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/60210/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Is-Now-Coming-Spring-2018/

>>384214832
>little extras
That's entirely the other way around my nigga. IV barely had any extras apart from the story.

>more atmospheric
Debatable. San Andreas has its own atomsphere, especially as it differs between the city, rural areas and the outback.

>very useful or fun
That's not an argument. Piloting school was fun for me, and it's just an example. Having an option to do more content is better than not having any.

>>384213958
Showing off highways in the sneak peak san andreas article blew my mind.

How big of a scale are they going for if they're using highways?

>>384213293
Some anon was talking a while back about Florian and Roman and how those characters reflect the same issues that Niko has but each one dealing with them differently, amazing storytelling, it's like watching alternative Niko's with Florian being the best example.

https://youtu.be/g6QC0ljS8AI

>>384214624

I have seen it and it is stupid, because 95% of the stuff showcased in the video is totally irrelevant to the vast majority of the game.

For instance, the showcase of the brawling. Who cares? How often are you honestly going to brawl random pedestrians in the street? Even in IV it's not a lot of fun. It's such a minor thing to really focus on.

And other things, like picking objects off the ground. Again, who cares? In IV there was never any reason to do this, it was boring picking up soda drinks and throwing them weakly. V is not any worse off for lacking this feature.

The only real problem with V is that the cops are too jumpy and aim too well. But virtually everything else in the video is totally worthless and ignores what playing the games really feel like.

>>384212778
>/v/ is one person
I can't speak for anyone else but I always loved GTA4. Its the most fun to fuck around in thanks to the physics. Plus the expansions were god-tier. I think many people are on the same page with me on that

>>384214978
>IV makes you "play" a shitty bowling segment
hurr durr
When was the last time you actually played it? At launch?

>>384214773
>gunpoint hijacking removed from GTAV
The fuck, why? Even Saints Row games have that.

>>384215070
Fuck off

>>384214773
>t-that doesn't count!
When will V kiddies fuck off? I can already see you faggots discussing Online after it dies.
>it was so fun!
>you could do literally anything in it
>the shark card shit was blown out of proportion

>>384212920
What microtransactions are there other than the money cards for gtaonline?

And haven't they been rendered useless by hackers by now?

I really like how you could set up an online server in 4 without cops

But now

>>384215086
>Piloting school was fun for me
Shit taste detected.

>>384215086
>not having any
What would you call vigilante missions?

>>384215181
Are you actually comparing bowling and a series of QTEs?

IV was fucking garbage, there was nothing to do and it was one of the clunkiest controlling games I've ever played

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Today, OP was not a faggot. Good shit bro.

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>>384214568
you're in for a blast sadiq

>>384214624
Yeah, but at the same time, V add tons of TECHNOLOGY that wasn't present on IV

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Played the first GTA when it came out, never touched the others until 3 came out. VC is still my fave even though it really needs a decent remake.

>>384214624
>TECHNOLOGY moments that IV had and V lacks.

V is way more impressive of a technological showcase

Vice City Stories was the last good GTA game

>>384215106
One of my favorite cutscenes in the game; love rhe voice acting

>>384215550
Only graphically. AI/world interaction and physics are dumbed down from 4, which is usually what /v/ is refeering to when talking about TECHNOLOGY.

>>384215550
Have you even watched the video, kiddo?
>>384214773

my initial response to IV was yours to V. took me about a year to come back to IV, but when i did, i fell in love with it and thought it was the best yet. i liked all the games that followed in its style, including Episodes.

V though truly was cancer. Took a lot of steps back from IV for the bullshit online mode.

>>384215378
Oh this game looks amazing downscaled, hope some day I can play it @60fps15ms

I'm playing it most of the time on 60fps but the weird drops and stutter are still there after all this time and hardware upgrades.

>>384215546
I won't fight you on GTA 4 but 5 is pretty boring

>>384215353
Yeah. The series of QTEs is less dull because at least you can't tell what happens in the next 5 minutes.

GTA IV has absolutely no good side content. Going out with friends/girlfriends is terrible, because the bowling/darts mini games are so fucking shitty and boring. At least in V the activities like tennis and golf are actually very serviceable minigames that aren't totally dreadful

V also has way more, and way better, "Strangers and freaks" side missions that are actually fun to do. Buying properties and doing unique missions for them is also really neat. And fucking customization, it was travesty this was left out of IV, being able to actually customize yours cars and buy lots of clothes in V is a fucking godsend.

Also, being able to actually buy hangers/garages and store multiple vehicles, being able to buy vehicles on the internet...All of these are small touches but when going back and playing IV they are very conspicuously absent. Finally, V actually has fucking TAXI missions again! IV only had 10 shitty ones on the first island, but you couldn't do them whenever you wanted. Taxi missions are actually important to me

>>384215940
What the fuck are you on about, junior?

>>384215697

I am not impressed by that meme video, when you are actually playing the game you never notice any of that shit except for the overzealous pedestrians

>>384208961
It's a shame really. All the work the programmers are doing to recreate NY and LA, it's all ruined, because the writer is a fucking hack.

GTA 5 is the best in the series. Admittedly there are flaws but it does literally everything better than all of the other games, even with multiplayer shit aside. This contrarianism is fucking pathetic.

>inb4 someone posts the "reasons GTA 4 is better than 5" video with 20 minutes of autistic comparisons of unnoticeable or completely unused mechanics

>>384209698
unpopular opinion that literally nobody fucking wants

>>384216286
>>384216167
Samefag. Also, not my fucking fault you run from mission to mission and can't appreciate the enviornment.

>>384209698
This guy gets it. Expansions aside, IV is hot fucking garbage.

>>384216286

It really is the best. I am totally shocked so many people hate it. I understanding hating the online bullshit, but the actual main game is pretty incredible. I had fun virtually every time I played it, pretty much every mission is enjoyable and there's lots of good side content. It feels like "fun" was their main priority with the design and it's a relief.

I also love the car physics

Is there anyone else here who loves all the GTA's and thinks they're all good games for different reasons?

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>>384215782

Important tips to get better performance:

-Roll back to v1.0.4.0. FPS is much more stable here
-NEVER max view and detail distances to 100. Set both to 33 if target fps is 60, and 50+ if fps is 30. I can get away with 100 on both if I lock fps to 30 but I have a beast rig

That's about all you can do. It's a DX9 game built for last gen consoles and it's Rockstar's first attempt at making a truly detailed and interactive world. The physics and geometry density is off the charts and easily beats GTA V and other open world titles. Sadly, on this outdated engine and with such insane assets in load at once, there's just nothing you can do to brute force 60+ fps at max settings. At least on v1.0.4.0 resolution is basically free. I was downsampling at 4k max settings easily on a GTX 780 4 years ago. You can do much better on Pascal or even Maxwell cards.

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>>384212920
this makes me sad

>>384215631
The Stories games are really under appreciated. Wish they'd get their secondary studios to do more of that stuff again, instead of whatever the fuck they're [not] doing right now.

>>384216049
Oh yeah, and I forgot the hunting minigame, which was actually really good and surprisingly addictive.

And the therapist, being able to actually see the therapist at certain points in the story was fucking awesome.

>>384216057
>junior
I'm pretty sure I'm older than you, sadly.

In bowling you're forced to play a game of bowling, which is 100% predictable since there are only so many ways a bowling game can play out. The yoga section has a plot point behind it, and you get to see Michael struggle with it humorously while enduring comments from his wife and the trainer. Also I'm pretty sure it's shorter.

Also the fact that you've degenerated this
>>>discussion
to comparing wildly irrelevant minigames shows how much you are grasping at straws here.

>>384209698
could not agree more. story was pretentious garbage, gameplay was regular garbage. looked pretty at the time, now looks ugly as sin. empty boring world if you don't count the incredible number of terrible, terrible minigames.

>>384212195
Good taste

>>384210646
I've never seen a more wrong opinion.

All of the cars weighed the same in IV so driving a Sultan is basically the same as driving a Mule

>>384212195
How can V be perfect if it's just SA but shit

>>384216505
>rolling back to 1.0.4.0
I remember trying to get some basic graphic mods on IV and holy shit it was a shitshow. Took me an unreasonable amount of time with all the rollbacks, redownloading, backing up, setting up, and the end result wasn't even that good. But then the vanilla IV has such shitty lightning and post processing.

>tfw actually liked yoga

It was relaxing and doing it on top of mount gordo was kino. I'm a fan of these kinds of more immersive things

>>384208961
Vice City is the only that is perfect

>>384208961
Very autistic opinion. Probably some nostalgia fedora neckbeard.

>>384216751

It takes me like 2 minutes after GTA IV is done downloading on Steam to rollback to v1.0.4.0. It's super fast and easy to do. The mods are your problem, the game doesn't need them. Just tweak the brightness/contrast/saturation settings in Display menu and you get almost the same overall feel without dealing with glitchy stupid mods.

>>384216984
You should have shoved more buzzwords in that post, you were on a roll there.

III - still a really cool atmosphere, story is refreshingly lean, but controls are really outdated and missions are meh
VC - amazing atmosphere, really colorful, amazing soundtrack, being able to buy properties is great. gameplay is similarly wonky though but the atmosphere is so good it almost makes up for it
SA - amazing in some parts like the countryside and desert but shitty in other parts like san fierro. lots of content but a lot of it is shitty. a really cool amount of freedom, a lot of neat and mysterious things about the game. the game is a mess but likable.
IV - pretty much total shit, only really good part is that the shooting feels really good and the gun sound effects are ferocious. Other than that is game is totally boring and feels insanely empty.
V - easily the best and most fun gameplay wise. a little too scripted, but still extremely fun just playing through the game, it's really well polished and put together. Also seems like it has a surprising amount of stuff to do, going back there's always more than I remember. In general this game is a total delight to play

My ranking:

V > VC > SA > III > IV

>>384213030
La verdad no bro

I honestly think in 5 years we will all look back and recognize V as as masterpiece. everyone is going to start feeling nostalgia for it and realizing how great it is

>>384215665
Yeah but the flip flops are flip and flop brah

>>384217485
>V
>most fun gameplay
outside of the city felt like the empty nothing between the cities in SA except in V there's no other cities to go to

>>384215665
>world interaction

. In V you can actually SHOOT OUT WINDOWS in cars. You can shoot the glass and it will break depending on where you shoot. In IV you cant break car windows at all

>>384215134
Haha, that's true bro! I like the expansions too.
Let me upboat you :D

>>384208961
Mine probably goes
IV+EFLC=SA=V>IV=VC>III

All are great games imo
>>384218567
What? All you have to do to break the windows on cars in IV is mash the triggers, and you can shoot them out to expedite the process of breaking into one.

>>384216581
>actually defending the yoga in GTA V
/v/ has hit a new low.

>>384218827

its a neat little feature thats comfy and relaxing. i enjoy doing it. whats to hate about it?

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>tfw I drew this edit eight years ago
it's a rabid sort of feel

>>384218827
Only in relation to bowling in IV which was even worse.

>>384218827
It's kinda fun tho

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Gta5s campaign is okay but all the characters kinda suck which kinda muddies the whole thing.

Online is whatever as well. It feels less fun than gta4 even if that entire multiplayer was fucking around in the airport. Gta5 is just a fucking grind.

The grind wouldnt even be that bad if it wasnt foe the endless amount of loading screens. Long loading times for fucking everything its atrocious. Even on an ssd the game takes forever its unbelievably bad.

4 years after release how is this still such a tremendous issue

>>384220694
>Online is whatever
Surely you meant to say irredeamable garbage

>>384213667
It's nice to enjoy things.

GTA V in general just feels unsatisfying
>get mission to get all UFO parts
>think you might unlock some crazy alien gun or a flyable UFO or something
>all you get is a shitty car with lights on it

>>384212778
/v/ isn't one person, there's always a vocal minority shitposting louder than people with actual, constructive things to say

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>>384212778
>They're both good games and have strengths and weaknesses.
My man, this is my opinion in a nutshell, it extends to the series as a whole really. There are flaws in parts of all of them but the whole was always greater than the sum of its parts.

Real shit TBoGT had strangely the most clever diversity seen in AAA gaming. The main fag wasn't a stereotype really, he actually helped out sometimes and R* never had him do the obvious joke and hit on Luis.

Luis story of a Latino man fit perfectly into the overall plot, working naturally since it's upper Algonquin.

Yusuf was just a crazy likeable dude who you could get behind and helped out Luis, even going out of his way at one point.

How the fuck did Rockstar of all people handle diversity way better in 2009 than any other company can now?

>>384208961
I feel like someone starts a meme as a joke, and low I.Q. posters like OP take it seriously. The only way you can actually hate V is if you're a brainwashed turd who believes /v/ posters when they're actually trolling.

>>384223032
The base game also had a really good gay character in Bernie, plus it had Serbs, Russians, Irish people, Jews, Rastafarians (with two different dialects), Italians, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans and black guys as prominent characters, with their own distinct personalities and important roles in the story. I think they nailed it because NYC is a place where having diversity makes a lot of sense for the world they were trying to portray and because Rockstar never cared about pandering except to the popular opinion of GTA fans.

>>384209698
This is legitimately correct.
How come elitist /v/ always enjoy the games that are shit and hate the games that actually are good

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>>384208961

>>384208961
GTA4 is the worst game on that picture

>>384226516
>TTYD better than PM64

you were so close

>>384212778

We have to go through this mentality every time a game in a series comes out

It's happening to BOTW, it's going to happen to God Of War and Mario Odyssey

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Red Dead Redemption is the best game Rockstar has ever made.

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I like all GTA games. Sure, some of the games are better than the others, but GTA is generally pretty solid series. San Andreas and IV are my favorites. San Andreas for the feeling of action and adventure, IV for the realism. My "least" favorite is GTA 3, but I haven't played that since it was released, so I can't be sure if I'm just remembering it wrong. I remember GTA3 being really clunky, especially after playing Vice City so I never looked back to it.
I really enjoyed GTA 3 when it was released, but I always saw Vice City as improved version of GTA 3.

g-guys do i fit in yet?

>>384212778
I'd hate to live your life where varying opinions from anonymous people counts as being "contrarian."

>>384210441
>story was unfocused and fell flat
>game didn't make much use of the huge map, most missions/activities were in LS
>focus on online bullshit, no expansions despite the game being ripe for them

GTA4 fucking sucks and has a boring city with nothing to do outside of missions and clunky mechanics. Other than nostalgia I don't understand how people can like it better than 5, let alone act like it's the best one.

>>384227481
this desu

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>>384212778
>not liking GTAV is contrarian now
Get your head out of your ass. Many people where ripping apart the terrible mission formats, the ruined physics, and omniscient police AI all when the game immediately came out. If not for the return to Los Santos, the enabled mods, and the now-flexible multiplayer, GTAV wouldn't have maintained a decent reputation.

Also, stop making up arguments and projections in order for you to make your point. You fool no one except yourself when you do that.