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Evo 2017: Smash 4 aftermath

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Stream at /evo, Salem won

Guy called Salem plays a witch edition

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>he does it again
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>>384196105
>Smash 4
Who cares
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>hur hurr bayo is broken
>never wins a major
>post patch
>hurr hurr bayo is still broken
>never wins a major
>a whole year late
>finally wins a major

now you guys can bitch faggots
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ZeRo lost
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Im so fucking happy all you faggots are getting rustled over hbox winning. Shows the massive ignorance of /v/.

Jigglypuff is a shit character, so shit that there is literally L I T E R A L L Y only one guy who can get to top 8.

Hbox SINGLE HANDEDLY flipped the fox puff matchup on his own, its still widely regarded by top pros to be 70%-30% in favor of fox. Seeing Hbox weave in and out instant death combos at 30% is a skill only few can even fathom. His character can die from one upthrow upair while he has to combo the spacies into fucking oblivion with 50 bairs or a risky rest combo that if he misses he INSTANT LOSES A STOCK.

Hbox is the hero we need, the one who consistently got out-tier'd for his entire life, but he refused to switch to 20XX he fucking pioneered his own character so much to a point that NONE OF THE GODS can replicate it and they all play top tiers pretty consistent except puff.

He fucking won it all, He beat his demons in life when the odds AND fans were always stacked against him. /v/ hates him because they will never craft their own negatives lives into success like him
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>>384194148
>>384194172
>>384194241
>>384194148
>>384194082
>>384194078
>>384194019
>>384194172

Only FGCucks use "le winner has to lose twice in finals XDDD"

in actual esports it doesn't matter if you come from winners or losers.
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>>38419610
>(pillow) Smash is over
Time for the real main event.
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>couldn't even break 150k on a sunday

TR4SH LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
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>we have players of all colors and sizes
>all sizes

THE FUCKING DISNEY GUY ROASTED ZERO
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>>384196267
140K people cared not to mention how many were watching on disney/espn
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THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogp69d0aY-s
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reminder
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>>384196374
Are you honestly this retarded?
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Thread that was posted before this one in the previous thread.

>>384193893

Stop making multiple new threads.
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now, time for the real shitshow
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>>384196341
This might be a pasta but I agree
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>>384196374
it does when it's a double elimination tournament you dumb South American.
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i like melee more, but sm4sh was more hype this year

LETS FUCKING GO SALEM
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>>384196412
REAL THREAD THEME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

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JUST TRY AND STOP US
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>>384196437
what did daigo do at this evo? Or is this referring to the 2004 shit?
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someone tweet Kamiya asking him if he's happy the new smash champion won with Bayonetta
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How fucking furious do you think Disney is knowing they gave attention to DC.
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New Tale time
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*steals your lead*
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>>384196458
>>384196532
>he doesn't know how actual, relevant, esports work
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Alright ban bayo, that shit lame is as fuck. Nothing hype about getting gank with cheap shit like this. You'll never see this bullshit in a real fighter where crazy comeback come from actual combos or something that requires some effort in execution.
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>>384196681
other esports don't use a double elimination rules dumb Portugese speaker.
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>>384196374
Why would anyone want to be an "actual" eSport, the term is like an insult. It would be like wanting to be a cuck
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>>384196607

>The furry faggot got triggered by proxy


HAHAHAHAHAH
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>>384196374
So the winner wins every single match to get to the grand finals. The other guy got to lose once, and still gets to be there. But now if the winner loses in grand finals even once, he's lost it all? Everyone else got a second chance but the guy who beat them all doesn't?
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DISSIDIA
>DISSIDIA
DISSIDIA
>DISSIDIA
DISSIDIA
>DISSIDIA
Finally a good fighting game
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>>384196773
>what is The International, the Only Relevant Esport event
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>>384196374
>I've never been a Double Elimination event for anything.
Hate to break it to ya fagatron, but they do the same thing in...
Magic the Gathering.
Yugioh.
Billiards (Pool)
Baseball
Gangbangs
When we all get together and see who cums the most on your mom's face.
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WHERE'S THE WEBM
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>>384196681
how do they work? I dont watch any of this CSGO/OW shit only the fighting game stuff
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>>384196607
HAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAGAHAHAHAHAHGAGA
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>>384196848
Not with that UI
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Smash looks like it requires a lot more "input" compared to other fighters.

Why does /v/ shit on it so much?
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>>384196374
>blitz poster is actually a retard

wew like we didnt see that miles away
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>He's in a poorfag community like fighting games and doesn't know how to setup a proper winner and losers bracket
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>>384196887
TI doesn't use it for the finals tho. Mostly because fuck me 2 best of 5 could take a good 10 hours
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>>384196437
downvoted
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>>384196257
ZeRo didn't choke, though. Bayonetta and Smash 4 are both just really stupid. He was punished for being in the lead.
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>>384196685
Best case scenario, Bayo gets nerfed to hell so people who like her can still play her. Hopefully Nintendo gets off their asses some day to do it, I don't disagree with a ban if nothing is changed soon.
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>>384196892
Doesn't happen at TI, which is, again, the _only_ relevant esport event.

furthermore baseball does not use a double elimination format, you stupid nigger dipshit retarded cuck

>b-but my thirdie baseball
wew lad i'm waiting for you pull this out

every thing else you listed is not relevant
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>>384196887
then what the hell are you even complaining about you dumb ESL?
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>"Nice win Salem. Why don't you come on down to the white house and play a few matches"
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>>384197074
Zero spotted.

go back to your south american shithole, you monkey
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video games lol
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>>384197023
They do best of 7 for Finals actually.
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>>384197023
>>384197106

The International is a Double Elimination Event With No Grand Finals Reset, How Digital Sport Tournaments Are Meant To Be Played!
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>>384197074
Smash 4 is over and done with anon. This is what we're stuck with until the next Smash game.
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MELEE KILLED BY BASED JAPAN
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>melee dropped for ARMS
kek
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>>384197074
The mechanics behind witch time are retarded. What they should've done is have the time get longer the less damage the opponent has, and shorter the more damage both players have. That way you can use it to do a lot of damage but not for easy kills.
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ARMS AT EVO JAPAN !!!
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>ARMS
>no melee

lol
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>Arms at Japan EVO
Oh boy. I'm more curious than anything else.
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SALEM WON HIS FREEDOM
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Oh shit finally melee is dead
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>>384197219
back to your containment thread smelly dotard
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Japanese EVO's dont matter anyway
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>>384197246
>>384197267
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SPECIAL SHOUTOUTS TO THE AUDIO CREW
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>>384197219
ok. One's a MOBA, and the others a fighting game (or a 1v1 party game whatever you wanna call it) Different genres of games will have different rules, 3rd worlder.
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>no melee at the next evo
sorry meleefags
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>>384197197
jesus. that's an easy 7 hours with setup, draft etc if it goes to the limit, not counting the eventual 80 minute mega defense shitfest
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i hope every Melee fan kills themselves please at least one
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odds that nintendo announces something?
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>>384197219
>Double Elimination Event With No Grand Finals Reset
That is retarded. Good thing I don't watch that stupid shit
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>>384197494
0
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>>384197396
Very rarely does it go the full length, last TI finals that was actually good was TI3. Everyone since then has been a stomp so it doesn't take that long.
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>>384197494
Squeenix had to announce something in their place
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>>384196584
>what did daigo do at this evo?
Nothing.
>Or is this referring to the 2004 shit?
Obviously.
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I cant believe melee is fucking dead
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>>384197379
You means, at Japan EVO right ?
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I don't care if you dislike ZeRo, that was the worst way to lose a tournament. He was robbed.
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>>384197550
well yeah. TI5 was neat tho.

USA

USA

USA
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>>384197539
What's YOUR prize pool like, FGCuck?
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>>384196894
This?
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>>384197616
Robbed how? Salem got the reset and won. He had more work to put in then ZeRo.
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>>384197635
I don't even care about the FGC, it's simple logic: that shit's retarded. >>384196813
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>>384197616
fuck off Zero
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>his prize pool is not seven figures
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>>384197616
>He was robbed.
Did you see who his opponent was?
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>>384197629
Western year, and not like OG is going to do anything other then choke.
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EVO Japan is the weekend after the Smash tournament Genesis 5. Which will probably hurt Smash 4 attendance. Will still be big for 64 and Melee.
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>>384197103
>Here's all these competitve things that do exactly what Evo does.

>BUT THEY DON'T COUNT!

No wonder this place is where I go to shitpost tfor 2 hours a night now.
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LOL GET FUCKED QUEERO
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>>384197296

Hahahaha nice racist joke bro.
It's 4chan so I too say whatever I want like I'm an edgy 12 year old who just discovered the internet
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>>384197543
>>384197568
nintendo is really retarded sometimes
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>>384197683
>that clusterfuck decided the winner
Smash ladies and gentlemen.
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>>384197887
#triggered
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>>384197728
Last game, ZeRo had a full stock advantage + damage, and the guy fucking choked his two stocks away to lose it all
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>>384197834
>competitive

>irrelevant garbage prizepools and viewer counts
ayyyyyyyyyyyyy

if it was competitive you could retire based off the winnings like my esport, FGCuck.

low prize pool = nobody cares = not competitive
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>>384197103
WTF is ti?
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>>384197728
He only lost because Salem had enough Rage to pull off a kill combo on him. Essentially ZeRo was being punished for being in control of the game up to that point.
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>>384197683
Ive done shit like this so many times to my friends when i played Bayo when I literally one hit away from losing and they would always get pissed. Imagine how Zero feels knowing he lost 20K cause of this shit
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>>384197887
Reddit is down the hall and to the left anon
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>>384197887
>2 Gentlemanly Scholar Points have been added to your account
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>>384197887
Haha nice retort bro.
I too am a triggered tumblrfag who writes passive agressive whineposts.
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>>384197585
yes.
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>>384197887
shibbolethed a non-white
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>>384197965

Nah, I just refuse to put up with such dated behavior. This is 2017, get with the times
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>>384197887
Fuck off faggot.
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>>384197971
Choking ≠ being robbed.
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>>384197995
>people are only in it for the money
and this is why your """""sports"""" are garbage
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>>384197683
Beautiful
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>his esport isn't competitive enough to have large prizepools

>he lashes out in incompetent non-white (as the FGCuck community is completely infested with minorities compared to other communities) anger at his Betters
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Anyone get DQed or ejected from the venue this year?
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>>384198069
well it's common knowledge since the announcement of EVO Japan itself.
I do feel bad for the melee community in Japan, because of the law they just can't make tournaments themselves
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>>384198032
>>384198037
>>384198054

>other website scapegoat meme
Man you sure got me good, are you trying to fit in this hard or was thinking up an actual argument too much for your simian brained collective.
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@384198145
Money = Prestige = Competition
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>>384197683
he died at 25%

fucking retarded
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>>384198136

No, you fuck off.
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>>384197995
>baiting this hard.
Damn anon, you had me for a second, but you're just an average frogposter.
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>>384198262
>moba retard
>talks about prize pools

every time. guess you cant talk about how good the game is.
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How censored was Disney XDs stream when Bayonetta showed up?
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>>384198328
>>384198436
KYS Kill yourself faggot
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>ZERO DELETES HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT

holy shit i'm screaming
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>Zero deleted his twitter

https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo/

LOL
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>>384198409

nah he was definitely not at 20%, but the reason they both picked that stage is because of the low ceiling. which both of their characters can abuse pretty hard.
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Zero wow what a pussy
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https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo
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>>384198494
>he's so autistic he cannot play with others and thus is stuck in containment genres like fighting designed for apes
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>ZERO DELETED HIS TWITTER

HOLY SHIT

https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo
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MVG ECHO FOX | Salem when?
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>>384198548
>>384198573
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FUCKING OBLITERATED!
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So how's Bayonetta working out for you fuckers?
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>>384198548
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>zero's twitter gone

wew lad
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>>384198619
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>>384198573
lel his GF must have deleted it after he lost, and then she killed him too.
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>>384198641
>>384198619
>>384198573
>>384198548
>>384198683
>redditors with twitter accounts
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>>384197683
>Salem.
>Bayonetta.
>Salem used a witch to win.
I sense the use of some Black magic here. BURN THE WITCH.
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>>384198537 (You)

Come over here and make then you troglodite
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>Zero so assblasted he suspended his twitter

Learn to take a loss you bitch, people have had worse loses. You're so deluded that when you're not top dog, the world ended for you
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>>384197683
This is what happens to Zero when Pierce doesn't coach him. He did unsafe monkey flips through all of top 8, and Salem capitalized on it. But it's just that Bayonetta is bullshit, isn't it?
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>>384198660
>still wearing clothing
Shantae is like little baby
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Can someone give me a quick rundown of Zero's defeat, did he leave the venue right after he lost? Why is his Twitter gone, did he talk a bunch of shit beforehand?
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>>384198128
MUH CURRENT_YEAR
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>>384198573
next his girl will leave him
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>So a lot of people have been wondering why I deleted my Twitter and don't acknowledge Smash anymore
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>>384198805
this is right

pierce is fucking horrible, delete him
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>>384198660
>tfw Shantae would have gotten in if it wasn't for the fucking 3DS version
>tfw anyone else could have gotten in but Sakurai wouldn't have it
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>>384198683
>>384198641
>>384198573
>>384198548
>>384198619
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WHAT A MANCHILD
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>>384198660

t. Akairot
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>>384198841
He didnt shake his hand, he looked pissed when Salem was getting the first place trophy and probably deleted his twitter because it was flooded with everyone saying he lost and he's a bitch who cant take it
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>>384198851
Post the full pic of this man
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I hope zero goes back to Melee after this, he's contemplated it after hard losses in the past before.
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BLACKED
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>>384198851
I want to fuck that Cog
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That's a big boy.
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>>384199109
who?
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>yfw Abigail

Holy fuck. This guy makes Zangief look like a little bitch!
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>>384198573
>https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo
I can actually understand his thought process. Shut your twitter down for a bit while the monkeys on the internet chimp out over it. Let them blow their steam off, then reopen your twitter, deal with 90% less vitriol and insanity instead.

It does come off as being a coward, but I get his thought process.
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>>384199191

why though? getting 1st, 2nd, or 3rd at major events for tr4sh probably pays more than getting 16th in melee ones.
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how many people were watching SM4SH during the finals?
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>>384197058
He was punished because he did a monkey flip a mile in the air
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>>384199516

135k
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>>384199281
some artist who went full retard when Bayonetta got announced as the ballot character. He was a huge Issacfag and pretty much got so butthurt he refused to draw her, even though his who schitck is drawing female characters featured in Super Smash Bros series.
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>>384199516
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>>384199516
It peaked at 140k for the stream. Will know how it did on Disney/ESPN later
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Wanna see how D1 reacted to that ending on TV
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>>384197683
Fuck
I mean, a win is a win and all, but it must so fucking frustrating to lose like this.
To think he could have avoided that by going to the left platform, or by jump air-dodging.
That monkey-flip to get out of pressure was really unfortunate.
I respect Salem, but a near-zero to death always feels like a disappointing end to me.
With that said, Salem played consistently good throughout the set. He managed to punish Zero almost every time he tried to get away from him - with a dash-grab of all things (considering how bad Bayo's dash-grab is). In my humble opinion, I think this is what won him the match in the long run. Making Zero afraid to use his main esacpe options lead him to try to do stuff like that in the clip.
Zero played amazing though. His recovery mixups were better than ever, and his neutral, as always, was very much on point. That last game was pretty much his for the taking - his reads were all on point and he was definitely in the zone. If it weren't for that interaction, he would have won.
For the scene, though Bayo is almost universally hated, Salem's win is rather positive. He's playing an amazing Bayo since the character got released, and even Zero considered him a top 5 player ever since, so it's only fair that he's finally getting the exposure he deserves.
In a nutshell - the ending was painful to watch and somewhat disappointing, but it should deligitimaze top-notch plays.
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>>384197058
>Wasted Double Jump.
>Let his opponent take the momentum.
He beat himself anon. He wasn't punished for jack shit. He got cocky, started playing stupid, then went on tilt. It's classic high level fuck up.
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>>384199586
>>384199628
>>384199668
so it shit on Melee numbers? good to know
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>>384199919
>>384197683
Zero monkey flips way to much. I guess he does it because not so many people pick up on it but Larry and Salem both did really well
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>>384199934
he was at 30%, he had that game but 1 u-air from bayo ends the game.
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>>384198660
I mean Bayonetta as a game is much better than that mediocre tripe so pretty good. Wayforward is incapable of making a good game.
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>>384199604
Say what you want, but Isaac and Shantae probably wouldn't have been as broken as Bayonetta. Shantae probably would have needed a character slot for each of her forms due to the 3DS version's limitations. If Nintendo doesn't nerf Bayonetta, you can bet your ass Smash 4 popularity will drop because of buffoonery like >>384197683
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>>384197683
Thank god for the not coaching after pools rule, shouldn't even be handholding at all. Zero was sloppy and lost fair and square.
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>>384200064
And Zero full well knows this. He still monkey flipped at the wrong moment and lost for it, he wasn't robbed shit
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>actually wanted bayo in the game/voted for her in the ballot
>i get shit talked every time i use her

o-ok
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>>384199919
* shouldn't delegitimize Salem's top-notch plays
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>>384197683
Its beautiful.
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Current consensus of the current status of SFV Season 2?
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>>384200106
>A game with QTEs
>being better than Shantae
>"Wayforward is incapable of making a good game"

wew lad. This is the shittiest bait I've seen on here in a while.
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>>384197683
>landing one up air means you die

fuck smash 4
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>>384200432
DAT UP SMASH
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>>384200064
>1 U-Air.
>Ignores all the other stuff in the off screen bubble.
Sure anon.
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How long until scarflard is literally on suicide watch
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>>384200564
THAT AIN'T FALCO
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>>384200297
Their salt is your strength dude.
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>>384200581
all of that is piss easy you retard.

>>384200279
playing against bayo is like playing against the house against the casino, you know you can win but the odds are against you, just pick bayo.

saying HURR DURR DONT MONKEY FLIP doesnt change the fact that he would have lost anyways without monkey flip as its one of the best moves against bayo due to the fact that its a command grab.
>>
>take a nap
>wake up
>Jubei reveal was not a dream
Still have reasons to live!
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When does Zero make the transition into a woman now that he's broken?
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>>384200860
>saying HURR DURR DONT MONKEY FLIP doesnt change the fact that he would have lost anyways without monkey flip
Then how did he win 4 games and consistently beat other Bayo's time and time again? He's the #1 player in the world, don't make excuses for him as if he needs them
>>
RASHIDOOO
>>
ZERO LITERALLY TRANSITIONING THIS VERY SECOND
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>this cringey entrance shit again
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>>384197887
You're a retarded faggot cuck nigger jew chink SJW cocksucking queerthirsting literal abortion of a bastardized third world wetback bitch. Stay salty
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>>384200039
It's true, though it's understandable.
Punishing monkey flips consistently generally requires you to give up full ledge pressure so that you have enough time to punish the landing, otherwise you're just letting the Diddy reset the neutral for free.
The timing for punishing it with an aerial is not strict, but does require some experience, otherwise you'll just whiff your punish or straight up trade with it. Salem's use of the upper part of the up-air's hitbox, at the right time too (the hitbox changes position with the animation pretty fast, I think), was as good as it gets against this move. Sure, some disjointed juggles will be easier to connect here (cf. Cloud and Rosaluma), but they won't net you a kill this early in a game.
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>>384200382
Meh its better than nothing
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>>384201034
>>384201131
If my mind's eye didn't need to see that, then my physical eyes most certainly do not need to see that
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>>384201183
Embarrassing
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>TFW John FUCKING Numbers rocked it at Puyo Puyo Tetris doubles and got third

He had no chance to get first
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>>384200034
It did the same. Now next year lets reverse the time slots =^)
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>>384201131
JOHN FUCKING NUMBERS
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>>384199919
He scored like one in all of the two sets, sure it's "cheap" but its not as easy to pull off as you think.
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>>384201092
by knowing how to use a day 1 character meanwhile salem was playing catch up with a new dlc character.

its over now though so who cares.
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>>384200382
>no sagat
Game is shit
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>>384201092
not him, but you can't say "don't make excuses" when you're making excuses for Bayo KOing at 25%
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Hey cool it with the zero insults please, he's going through a rough time right now. No one needs this.
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>>384201369
No, he got SALEMED
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>>384201437
Holy fuck they haven't added Sagat yet?
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James making me nostalgic for INFILTRATION
>That yr he bust out Hakan
>That yr he bust out Abel out of FUCKING NOWHERE on Bee
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>>384201468
Not him, but you're retarded
>>
I havent paid attention to the Smash scene probably since the final patch, why are people still bitching about Bayonetta? Didnt she get beaten with a nerfstick to the point where DI'ing out of Afterburner Kicks and Witch Twists were much easier? I understood she was still good even with those changes but has something changed?
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>>384201483
You mean he's going through a buffet right now.
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>>384201483
zero fans are fucking dumb. This is literally all their saying on twitter now. Like hes the only person to every lose a tourney
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>>384201643
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>>384201630
Not an argument, shit-for-brains
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PHOENIX WRIGHT AND MAYA ON STAGE BOIS
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>>384201360
good luck waiting for that to happen after people annoyed the shit out of Joey Cuellulitis for his call with Hcux's coaching :^)
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>"white" """""""""people"""""""""
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>>384201369
He lost Puyo Puyo Tetris, but he had no chance when someone who can literally win 3v1 is your competition
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>>384201713
Not everyone is the same
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>USA vs Nipland all the way through
LETS GOOOOO ALL USA FINALS BABY
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>>384201348
>Amemiyadestroying everyone else in the swap tourney
>He wins the 3v1 3-1
>Last game of the doubles tourney he gets TWO SCREEN CLEARS BACK TO BACK

THAT BOY AIN'T HUMAN
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ladder combos, rage kills, and guaranteed kill setups are all cancer
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ZERO DEACTIVATED HIS TWITTER HAHAHAHAHA
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>>384201392
Just posted this:
>>384201201
I agree
The full combo is just what you would expect from a pro Bayo player, but landing the first hit requires having the right idea at the right time, which I can respect.
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>>384201637
if the Bayo is good they can just follow you SDI
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You know, this doesn't look so bad.
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>>384201853
Is it me or does Dabuz have DSL?
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>>384201643
He's been losing weight
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>>384201859
>you're actually serious
kys
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>>384196374
>he STILL hasn't realized dota winner bracket """"""advantage"""" is fucking bullshit and unfair compared to other esports
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>>384202019
Not after tonight!
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>>384202019
He doesn't look like he's dropped an ounce.
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>>384196374
have you considered the fact that actual sports is run by jews and that rule is in place to ensure they can rig the game more easily?
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Oh shit, I didn't know they were doing Bo5 here.
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>>384198001
The Internationnal, dota main tourney. Starts in a few weeks, prize currently at 20 million.
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>>384202046
Just feel some empathy every now and then
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>stage has EVO signs and banners

Oh wow thats cool. Does that happen every Evo?
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>>384202446
hey, you're right. Neat.
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>>384202446
last year had a stage like that as well
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>Scarflard finally getting what's coming to him
>he looked like he was about to cry when he lost
He fucking deserves it for the Smash Invitation bullshit he pulled in 2014.
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>>384202446
The big premium stages like the wrestling ring last year changes depending on what big tournament is going on.
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>>384202663
>TFW he was right
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>>384199029
What is this meme? Did I miss an interview where they said Shantae was getting in but 3DS limitations prevented her?
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>>384202663
Why doesn't m2k play 4 anymore?
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>>384199029
>implying the nips would let characters by fucking baka gaijin in smash
Fucking name me a non Japanese character in Smash. I dare you.
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>>384202663
>>384202847
More like his character
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Does Zero even act arrogant?
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>it took a fgc event to get rid of mid set coaching so flaws in gameplay can get exploited by the person that's less tilted

smash community is a fucking joke, i hope one of them kys after how good EVO was compared to their half baked esports garbage
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>>384203045
i don't think he could manage maintaining 2 games
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>>384203045
he doesn't want to quit melee, and isn't capable of playing both without jobbing or straight up dropping out of 4 mid-tourney
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Wow I can't wait to pick up Bayonetta and become a top player.
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>>384203045
game has low skill ceiling.

he said he doesnt like that there really arent that many options at any given time.
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>>384203086
Diddy Kong
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>Gief now can tank through hits by flexing
>and can connect grabs off that
I just came out from under a rock and as a huge casual I'm scared
back to my rock I go
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>>384203138
Just look at how he carries himself on stage constantly
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>>384203086
pretty sure Diddy was made by Rare so he counts.
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>>384203283
>still part of the DK franchise as a whole
I know you need your shitty indie fap bait character, but Bayo is a way better fighter.
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>>384203045
Smash 4 is intentionally made to be casual and he knows
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>>384203045
Too hard for him
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>>384203138
>Does Zero act arrogant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knC-JhelEus
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>>384203045
he does but he wasn't about to fuck up his melee at a tournament like EVO
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>>384203138
He wears a fucking scarf
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https://twitter.com/_shunao/status/886773478023495680
Zero getting exposed live on twitter right now.
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>>384202937
>>384203086
samefag. Also, not a meme. Why do you think Zelda and Sheik and Samus and ZSS were split? Why do you think Ice Climbers and Pokemon Trainer removed?
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>zoning
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>>384203045
It's really hard transitioning between both games mentally is hard at a tournament.
Going from 0 buffer frames to 7 is exhausting dude.
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>censoring the FUCKING DEFAULT COSTUME
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>>384198743
>He doesn't have a Twitter to follow porn artists
baka desu senpai
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>>384203667
I almost spit out my drink
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>GUY-EL

I thought it was
>GILL-EE
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>>384203949
they did the same exact shit with r mika last year
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>>384203949
'murrica
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>>384203693
wtf i hate zero even more now
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>>384203732
>hurr samefag
How are you such a faggot?
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>>384203693
Wtf I love toph now
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>>384204218
Toph is a good lad.
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>>384203639
Holy fuck what an arrogant piece of shit
>He deletes his twitter as soon as he lost EVO
lmao
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>>384203693
the only arrogant thing he did was use his fame to keep the store open and politely buy some art.

that being said, still an asshole thing to do.
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>>384203639
Thank you for showing me this video. It's beautiful
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>>384204191
Someone's salty they got exposed
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>>384203693
the artist sounds just as much of a douche as zero
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>>384196341
I agree that using jigglypuff is very admirable, but I fucking hate hungrybox.
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>>384203693
I can just see this shit playing out in my head.
Once Zero got on skype with m2k during m2k's stream and was incredibly annoying and arrogant
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>>384204326
>politely
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>>384203639
The primus montage was pretty sweet
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>>384204516
the guy said it himself that he paid for everything and thanked him.

not sure why you would think that isnt polite.
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ZeRo will come back next year stronger, he's gonna get in shape and be fit, you niggers better believe it.
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>>384203639
wew fucking laaaaaaaad
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>>384204468
Dude I thought i was the only one who noticed this he sounded like such a egotistical shitter on that one stream. I'm glad he got humbled today.
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>>384204602
>acts like s complete asshole
>but he said thank you at the end so it's ok.
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>>384204625
zero is a giant asshole who's going to get his ass kicked though in an irl fight
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>>384204326
he also called every Falcon main trash, and saying it's ridiculous he's the best Falcon when he doesn't even play him. And also claimed to be the best Sheik even months after he became shit with her because she was nerfed
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>>384204763
>act like an asshole at first
>be nice afterwards
is that hard to understand?

i already agree'd that its an overall asshole thing to do.
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>>384204840
>he also called every Falcon main trash
probably because they were trash and that clip was from when the game first came out and he actually was the best falcon.
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>>384204763
>gas/oil company devastates ocean with oil leakage
>WE'RE SORRY
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>>384204776
ZeRo has bodyguards though, he's the mayweather of fighting vidya.
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>>384204981
not implying he wasn't, but trashtalking of that level is being arrogant
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>>384205043
doesn't matter, they're going to get whooped too
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>>384205043
But Mayweather hasnt lost

I dont like the guy or his fighting style but he's earned the right to act like King Shit. Zero has not.
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>>384205305
plus mayweather actually hires people who are real professional bouncers, zero has lackeys
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Does this charm seller have any body pics? She seems cute
>>
Everyone hates Fuck Chump right?
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>>384204840
>And also claimed to be the best Sheik even months after he became shit with her because she was nerfed
Let's not forget the moment his flowchart set up gets nerfed, he goes back to diddy because "he clicks with him" more
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Is he right?
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Im so happy zero fucking lost, he is the biggest piece of shit ever to exist in smash. I hope getting whooped like that will teach him some respect and humble him a bit. Oh wait, he deleted his twitter cause he can't handle shit. He needs to just stay gone forever and never come back.
>>
SIT DOWN

BE HUMBLE
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>>384205638
bwahahahahahahaha faggot
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>>384205638
No.
>>
You sons of bitches better leave my nigga ZeRo alone, I'm not gonna tell you twice you fucking virgins.
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>>384205638
>>384205026
why is the smash communities so fucking gay? They literally want a character banned if this was any other game the players would just suck it up and play holy shit
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m2k you in here?
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>>384205638
It's nice and all but it's pretty cringe worthy
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>>384205941
>They literally want a character banned if this was any other game the players would just suck it up and play holy shit
we did that in brawl and look how that worked out.

other actual fighting games had at least a couple good characters.
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>>384205638
>it's a preachy redditor episode
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>>384205638
The My Hero Academia reference is just icing on the shit cake
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>>384205939
Fuck you faggot
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>>384206072
What was it?
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>yfw Zer0 deleted his youtube
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>>384206320
>PLUS ULTRA
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>>384205939
shut up you stupid nig
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>>384197683

> Zero Monkey flips halfway up the screen aiming at God knows where right over Bayo's head
> Salem catches him and begins an up Air combo and kills him

> Said Up Air combo was started at a height that other characters with Up Air combos would have been able to kill at.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

Bayonetta was not the issue here. It was Zero. He fucked up. He made a mistake and at a top level play, it could cost a stock. And this case, it cost him the tournament.
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>>384205638
Eh to an extent. That's way too fucking faggy
Every scene should have its monster though. An obstacle to be surpassed. A target. A villain. What have you.
Getting beaten down by the best gives you some insight on what it means to be the best.
Zero might not like it, but he's eventually going to become the benchmark.
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>>384205638
>PLUS ULTRA my boy
why
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>>384206331
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>>384196257
why does this autistic fartknocker always wear a scarf.
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>>384206331
i look forward to the day
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>>384196621
I'm surprised that they couldn't have a Dasani bottle wrap but that was OK by Disney standards.
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>>384206453
his mother's heirloom, or some shit
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>>384206386
t. retard who goes 0-2 at every tournament
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>>384206331
>still up
aww
don't tease me like that man
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>>384206584
he's not wrong
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>>384205941
>Bayo release
>hilariously busted
>beg for nerfs and bans
>get them
>still a threat but at least its a manageable one
>year later
>scarflard loses evo
>beg for nerfs and bans

Fucking children I swear to god
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>>384206584
>I know he's right, but I'm gonna call him a retard ANYWAY!
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>>384206697
he is wrong.

bayo is the only character that kills off of an anti air at 30% and thats on top of everything else she has which is either the best or second best next to diddy.

no way diddy or anyone else is doing that.
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>>384206935
Mario and ZSS do, both matchups Zero is used to facing
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>dhalsim has to give his blood to deal some damage
>meanwhile, the shotoclone almost kill dhalsim with few combos
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The reason Zero had trouble with Bayo is because most of his gameplan revolves around edgeguarding, which you cannot do easily vs Bayo.
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>>384205825
HOL UP HOL UP LIL HOL UP LIL BITCH
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>>384207176
no they dont dumbass.

there is nothing mario or zss could have done in that exact same situation.

up B isnt killing at 30% since its so high up they have to double jump to get up there.
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>>384203732
I never said anything about ZSS, Shiek, Samus, Zelda, etc. You're avoiding the question.

Of course the 3DS held back certain things from a technical standpoint; that isn't what I'm asking. What I'm asking is why there are several posts that take Shantae's inclusion in the game as a given if not for the 3DS limitation. They make it sound as if she was confirmed via interview but stated she couldn't make the cut because of her transformations.
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>>384207496
Because you're on /v/ arguing with a retarded rosterfag
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Why even talk about smash 4 when melee is superior?
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>>384207758
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Why even talk about melee when brawl is superior?
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>>384207406
You clearly have not seen the retarded shit ZSS can pull with her UpB when she has rage
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>>384207758
they are both shit so don't even start
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>>384207847
and none of it works at that height or percent.

it does work if you're a dumb nigger like void who holds up every time instead of down.
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>>384207808
shhiieeet
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>>384207496
Not avoiding anything. It's common knowledge.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-10-01-zelda-and-sheik-are-separate-smash-bros-characters-due-to-3ds-limitations
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-09-17-ice-climbers-cut-from-smash-bros-3ds-due-to-lack-of-hardware-power

Shantae wasn't getting into Smash 4 because it wouldn't work with the 3DS version. Unless if they were to put her in WITHOUT them but that's like Link with just the Master Sword and no items.
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>>384207496
>>384207750
>still samefagging
It doesn't make you any less wrong, fool.
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>>384207406
>mario or zss could have done in that exact same situation.
Have you ever watched Ally or Nairo play on T&C? the low ceiling and platforms allow to kill at ridiculous low percents, even allows characters like Rosalina do it. Hell people have died at 0% before in a match with Bayo not involved.
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>It's a bunch of people who play video games pretending to be fake mad at video games on EPSN

Yawn. Same shit as last year
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>>384208067
Okay, you got me. Here's a (you)
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>>384196681

Doing double elim GF doesnt work for Dota because it has the possibility of taking the entire day. For CSGO it doesnt work because a single game takes so long, it only works for fighting games because theyre so short.

Smash isnt a fighting game so dont know why they do it, but whatever
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>>384207808
I love this post
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>top 8 rashid
oh goddammit here comes all the faggots moving toward this character for no reason
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>>384207808
>1/25/17
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>>384208250
Thanks for conceding. Glad to have educated you.
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>>384207758
Melee isn't at Evo Japan
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Guys, realtalk here.
Was there any confirmation as to whether or not it was M2K's dick in the Cynthia Bunnay nude leaks? I really like to hope that he managed to get SOME action in his sad pathetic life.
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>>384208656
I'm gonna need some pics so I can investigate this claim further.
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>>384208738
http://asiansauce.xyz/cynthia-bunnay/

She gave nudes for amiibo so we know she's a cheap slut, but she is kinda cute so I'd still bang.
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>>384208296
>Smash isn't a fighting game
Pokemon uses double elimination.
>it only works for fighting games because theyre so short.
It used on other games and tournaments
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>>384203949
>censoring Chun-Li's default
It's the most sensible default female outfit this side of Karin. The fuck?
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>>384208656
While we're on the topic of girls and smash, which smasher has the hottest gf?
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Nothing brings me more joy than watching this little bitch lose.
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>>384208656
i remember he talked about getting blowies in his leaked chat logs but dunno if she was sucking
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>>384209227
zero followed by kjh
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>>384208193
not happening and go be a nigger elsewhere.
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>>384209446
KJH's girlfriend isn't hot at all. Her face looks fucked up

Hbox has a hot GF. Armada does too I think
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>>384209506
I'm sad you didn't even try anon.
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>>384209446
Shannon is not hot lol

>>384209507
I've literally never seen a picture of Armada's gf ever post pic.
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>>384209718
I mean I already covered both those options, just hold down on the control stick (the big grey one) and you wont die at 30%.

but please keep telling yourself you're right about this.
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>>384205638

>PLUS ULTRA my boy

is my meme academia the new dbz
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ZeRo actually could have survived that combo with proper SDI.
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>>384209843
And Scarflard could have not monkey flipped like he always does at that height and could have done SDI and he wouldn't died at 25%.
but please keep telling yourself you're right about this.

See? I can use faggots arguments too.
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>>384210005
>if zero broke his controller he could have lived and kept playing with a broken controller
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>>384209813
Met her a tournament once, didn't know there weren't any online
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>>384203693
I'm not sure if he's telling any truth but I'm pretty sure it's a dick thing to publicly shit on a player who's so broken he can't even defend himself right now.
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>>384210120
>And Scarflard could have not monkey flipped like he always does at that height and could have done SDI and he wouldn't died at 25%.
cool but that wasnt my original argument.

my original argument was that only bayo could pull that off, keep being a retard i have all day.
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>That faggot Zero is nearly crying during the award ceremony
>Deletes his twitter
>We can expect a new video about him bitching about Bayo, hell he may even pick up Bayo
And people wonder why we don't like him.
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>>384210279
Zero doesn't ever defend himself fairly. He always retweets exclusively his responses so his followers can come and dickride
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>>384198262
*Beats the "best" team that the west offers*
Nice nonwhite game dotard
FLIPS WILL RULE TI7
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>>384210283
And my original argument was that people have done more at less percents. keep being a retard i have all day too.
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>>384210684
>And my original argument was that people have done more at less percents.
but not at that exact situation you dumbass which you conveniently ignore.
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>>384210914
Keep crying scarflard. You should delet you youtube channel too while you are at it.
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>>384196412
MOTHER FUCKER
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Bayo main here,
To any faggots trying to say that Salem only one because of jank, you're fucking retards.
Please consider the following:
>Salem did not win any games based off a witch time. In fact I don't even think he got any witch time kills during both sets with zero.
>Salem only got one string that killed against zero and that was the 10th match which he won EVO with
>Most importantly Salem came from losers bracket, he had to take two consecutive sets from ZeRo to beat him
>It's not like he just slid through winners bracket and ended up in grands.
Yes Bayo is a dumb ass character with ridiculously overpowered punishes, but Salem won the tournament fairly.

He outplayed and adapted against ZeRo
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>>384211362
>**To any faggots trying to say that Salem only WON because of jank, you're fucking retards.
Please consider the following****
Before you faggots get on my case
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>>384211362
>Bayo main here,
>In fact I don't even think he got any witch time kills during both sets with zero.
exactly what I would expect from brain dead bayo players.
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>>384211542
When did he kill zero with witch time? it didn't happen once in the set.
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>>384211638
>he doubles down on the retardation
enjoy your dead game faggot
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>>384210914
Okay dipshit, here's your exact same situation.
>ZSS can catch the monkey flip with a double jump uair, land on the platform to reset her uair chain an kill Diddy with UpB, especially with rage.
>Mario can do the exact same thing, just shifting his UpB enough to just get the first hit
>Rosa can just spam uair and get the kill if Luma is there
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>>384211828
Didn't happen once in either set. Kill yourself you salty faggot.
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>>384204218
oh fuck toph is based now
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>>384211892
none of those kill or work but keep pretending they do.
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>>384211974
>still being a retard
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>>384212525
Nope. Still be right.
Witch time didn't play a vital role in his victory. Nor did killstrings.
He only got a death combo once. The rest were just damage
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>>384212428
>Uair chains don't work as ZSS
You what?
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>>384212428
now you're just being retarded on purpose
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>>384212428
>implying metaknight doesn't have early ladder combos
>zss implying zss doesn't have early ladder combos
They work if the player is good.
Bayo's kill strings are easier to perform and require less work.
But at the top level metaknights and ZSS have their ladder combos down.
You're a dumbo
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>>384212873
she has to double jump to get that high up dumbass.

u-air -> up B isnt killing at 30 either and diddy isnt under a platform either so good try retard
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>>384212428
>none of those kill or work but keep pretending they do.

When you start an Up Air combo halfway between the floor and ceiling? When the ceiling in this stage is low?

Come on man, we've been watching people play this game for years. Low % kills are not rare with these types of characters.
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>>384213220
see >>384213162
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>>384199395
He's screwed either way. Keep twitter open and he gets bombarded by people.
Shut it down for a bit, everyone thinks you're a having a tantrum or being cowardly.
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>>384213146
metaknights small jumps would never allow him to punish a diddy that high up, besides that he does kill at 30 if he was already up there which means zero is just pressing forward on the ledge.
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>>384213258

Dude, we've all seen ZSS and Mario and Meta Knight do low % kills with the Uair. Diddy didn't start have his combo start at the stage, he was already HALFWAY UP.
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>>384213437
Yeah metaknight can kill diddy like that. Trust me.
A scrubby metaknight couldn't tho.
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>>384213394
guess it's time for him to retire then and hope he can translate his abilities to other games/stuff
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>>384213557
you're a dumbass and we've never seen a zss kill at 30 after double jumping for an anti air.

we've seen plenty of zss's kill with platform resets though.

going to be hilarious watching bayo players play by themselves because nobody enters smash 4 anymore.
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>>384213258
Just shut the fuck up please. First of all you clearly didn't read the post because he did not just say the DJ U-Air to Up-B but you clearly didn't read that. Second of all ZSS doesn't even need to do a DJ to get that high seeing she has the second highest jump in the game. Even if she did the DJ U-Air to Up-B with rage it could kill with the first hit of ZSS's Up-B having the knockback it has. You clearly are very ignorant about this and should not continue to talk about it.
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>>384213258
you see >>384197683
Diddy was pushed towards the platform, ZSS can hit two Upairs in a single jump at those percents, and her Upair has the lowest amount of recovery frame of the entire cast, she could go through the platform and land with nearly zero lag and reset the chain and most definitely kill with UpB
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>>384213678
can you read retard?

he cant anti-air that high up off the ground because of his small ass jumps.

if he was already up there for some reason then he kills at 30, but zero would just get up normally from the ledge.
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>>384213864
He could still do that.
Just needs to double jump and be in the air to catch the monkeyflip
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>>384213734
>Second of all ZSS doesn't even need to do a DJ to get that high seeing she has the second highest jump in the game.
opinion discarded.

fuck off back2reddit with your shit theorizing.

>Even if she did the DJ U-Air to Up-B with rage it could kill with the first hit of ZSS's Up-B having the knockback it has.
hold down you retard, ive said it about 20 times already.

>>384213747
>Diddy was pushed towards the platform
because its bayos up air not zss up air dumbass so zero di'd it so he wouldnt be directly below her for the obvious up B that comes next.

you guys are some seriously stupid niggers.
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>>384214069
>Just needs to double jump and be in the air to catch the monkeyflip
which means zero ISNT GOING TO PRESS UP FROM THE LEDGE YOU STUPID SHIT.

and its easily reactable due to how slow metaknight is at gaining horizontal height.
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>>384214178
>which means zero ISNT GOING TO PRESS UP FROM THE LEDGE YOU STUPID SHIT.
Do you play smash 4?
Do you know how much diddies like to monkey flip just for movements sake?

Yeah zero could have easily done a monkey flip there just to avoid an edgeguard or a ledge situation.
Play the game more before you post.
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>>384214392
metaknights jumps are too slow for it to work.

bayos full hop u-air reaches easily meanwhile metaknight has to jump like 3 times just to get that high with his tiny u-air.
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>>384214072
>because its bayos up air not zss up air
there's barely a difference in launch angle
>zero di'd it so he wouldnt be directly below her for the obvious up B that comes next.
and did fantastic job, he still got hit.
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>>384214556
No they aren't too slow. It just takes a different type of positioning and predicting the monkey flip.
But trust me it can be punished, you just have to have a really good sense of reading.

I'm not saying Bayo can't punish it easier, because as a Bayo main she definitely can.
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>>384214770
>there's barely a difference in launch angle
can you read retard?

>>384214770
>and did fantastic job, he still got hit.
because bayo is broken.

>>384214776
>No they aren't too slow. It just takes a different type of positioning and predicting the monkey flip.
you mean already being way up there like I said before?

guess what happens if you're already up there? they dont monkey flip.

>I'm not saying Bayo can't punish it easier, because as a Bayo main she definitely can.
good thing you admit you're wrong then because bayo not only punishes easier but harder too.
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>>384215042
>guess what happens if you're already up there? they dont monkey flip.
No sometimes they might. Zero was stupid enough to monkey flip above bayonetta so I'm sure he'd do it against a good metaknight who'd he'd be much less likely to die from.

a lot of the time they might feel safer in the air than on the ground with metaknight. Metaknight usually get's his up air kills starting from a dash attack not sharking in the air.
>>
Zero going to catch hell if he returns to twitter, everyone he wronged is exposing him today. Zero might as well pack it up for smash forever.
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>>384215949
>zero quitting smash
Like he has anything better to do.
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>>384213707
>retire
why? he's still really good and wins more often than not.
>>
I wish Fatality was there. He made matches hype
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>>384196105
no Ally Mario :/
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>Bayo kills from 0%
>Dk's upthrow combo from 0%
>Lucario in rage

Smash 4 is the best smash just because all of the dumb shit it has
>>
>>384203693

>Artist talks about getting shit on by ZeRo's fanboys
>Replies filled with angry ZeRo fanboys defending him

Really gets the gears whirlin'
>>
>>384219304
all of the smash 4 community dickrides top players.
Nobody should be defending Zeros behavior by deactivating his twitter.
>>
>Ally makes a tweet saying he's okay
>Zerofags all over that post as if they thought he killed himself or some shit
>>
>>384211362

honestly, the big thing here isn't Salem doing silly bullshit combos, any Bayo can do that. The issue isn't chasing techs or DI either, again anyone can do that. What Salem did different was make Bayonetta look like she actually has a neutral game, which most Bayonettas can't do. Any other Bayonetta player would have been struggling to get back to the edge against most of the cast let alone Zero, who pretty much has the best edgeplay in the game.
>>
https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo

zero's account is back up, his followers got reset.
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>>384203693
Not defending Zero or anything but she draws a lot of Smash stuff.
You'd think she knew who Zero is.
Maybe she enjoys the game casually idk.
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>>384221626

She plays super casually, she's a diehard Mahvel fan. Last time I checked, she mained fucking Kirby and Dark Pit.
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>>384207808
He is right.
I love Melee, but this shit is stale as fuck.
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Guess who's back
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>>384222368
>>384221136
>https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo
The damage has already been done.
this faggot is pathetic
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>>384222919
>>384222368
Probably realized he has no other skills so he has to man up and continue eating Sm4sh shit until he dies.
>Also I deactivated so I could eat and relax for a bit without worrying about social media. All is good.
Yes, because it is so hard to turn off the phone.
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>>384223253
He can literally turn off all notifications.
Fucking his girlfriend already posted that "she and pierce were looking after him" like he was in some manic depressive state.

What a lying faggot.
>>
>>384205941

Pictures of a handful of random nobodies on /v/ saying they want a character banned doesn't mean the smash community wants her banned. If they wanted her banned, she would be banned. You can find a screencap of anyone saying any retarded thing on the internet. Be more skeptical than this in your day to day life pls. Bayonetta is never going to be banned.
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Did he just pull a John Numbers?
Will tranny Zero rise?
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>>384207808
I finally can use this pic
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>>384223703
No he's cooled down. Expect smash 4 to fall further under ZeRo's domination though, he'll probably have flashbacks whenever he sees bayos in his bracket and go even more apeshit
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>>384224952
I swear he has a secret fear of Bayonetta. Remember when he just suddenly left the scene for a while when she was released last year?
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>>384226005
>secret
Bayonetta can just sort of touch you and take a stock so I don't blame him really. I don't think there is a player out there who isn't afraid of getting suddenly 0-deathed by bayo. ZeRo just had a good enough understanding of the game to realize the game breakingness of bayo's style early
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>>384226282
Is Bayo really that OP?
Isn't this like the first time she has won a big tournament? And even then it was very close.
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>>384226419
>Is Bayo really that OP?
Not really but she's lucky characters like Cloud, Sheik and Diddy are in the game too.
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>>384196395
>Aired on TV
>1AM EU time
>Twitch down for a lot of it as well
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>>384226282
Bayonetta doesn't have ToD combos anymore, she did pre-patch.
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>>384226419

Bayo's got good 0-death capabilities and one of the few characters with strong true combos in general. The real difference with this EVO is Salem made it look like Bayonetta has a strong neutral game, which she really doesn't. Another thing is DI is arguably more important with Bayo than any other character.

So a combination of Salem playing the cleanest neutral you will ever see from a Bayonetta player ever, plus people fucking up DI all tourney long, and it's not surprising that she won.

She's definitely top tier, but she's not unbeatable (hell, Salem was coming up from losers after getting trounced) and the win was earned.
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>>384226419
Sort of. Thing is bayo is definitely out-playable but her tools are the most out of place in smash and most powerful in terms of early kill potential. Even if they don't get the early kill they'll build a lot of damage off it

>>384227095
Was over exaggerating a good bit
>>
>>384226419
Everyone seems to agree she is the best character in the game. I'd say she is too because she has a lot of tools for every situation.

>all her aerials are great and have low landing lag making it hard to punish her, Nair and Up air can be extended to hit even after an air dodge and connect with ABK or witch twist
>Nasty combos with witch twist and ABK in general
>Witch time jank (Salem did kill Ken off the top similarly to Zero after a Witch Time at 20% with just 2 Up B's)
>Amazing recovery (Salem recovered against Larry Lurr after getting F-air footstool'd by fox)
>this combined with her great aerials she has one of the best edgeguard games
>Fast attacks promote aggressiveness, less campy style of play
>Kill throw, not the best, but it works
>jab that can actually kill
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>>384227360
Hey, at least Bayonetta doesn't get as shafted as Ryu.
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>>384227459
Locus's Ryu was he most honest thing in the game
>>
Salem has gotten 2.5k more followers so far. Wonder if he's gonna get a tier 1 sponsor.
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