Where do you rank /v/?

I've played at least one game from every category, so hell if I know.

>>384189302
This. You're a disgrace if you haven't.

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>>384189128
JRPG fan.

>>384189128
Final Fantasy should be in JRPG fan.

>>384189128
>Where do you rank /v/
The Festering cesspool of the festering cesspool of the Internet. The only thing worse than /v/ is /pol/.

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>>384189681

>>384189734
>The only thing worse than /v/ is /pol/.
But anon those two are the same

>>384189128
meme list made of opinion and not fact

but i agree with most of it

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>>384189734
Stay butthurt marxist scum.

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>>384189128
>paper mario in bandwagoner
why?

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>>384189128
Where would this be?

>>384189128
Persona has become pretty normalfag tier now with 5.
>bandwagon tier
What? So unless you didn't play chrono trigger and earthbound at release you're a bandwagonner? Don't be a retard.

>>384189958
Nowhere because its an SRPG not a JRPG

>>384189926

>USA in a couple of years

>>384189128
Dangerously Otaku apparently.

>>384189734

Before this devolves into a /pol/ thread, I just want to make sure everyone understands that this was the fault of someone bitching about /pol/ out of nowhere when the thread had nothing to do with it.

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>>384189128

>xenogears
>badnwagoner

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>>384190034

Should I skip Xenosaga 2? Normally I would never do such a thing but I've seen it heavily implied that I should.

>>384189302

This, is it supposed t be which category you most match with? This is stupid OP

I can say without a doubt ive played nothing in weeaboo category though

>>384189128
Where is Es Em Tee and Xenoblade?

I assume by Drakengard you actually mean Nier.

Neptunia should be moved down to bandwagoner because of the "ironic weeb" crowd.

dark souls and pokemon are the only ones that I have played

the only other one I know is mario kek

>>384190207
If you've played Nier:Automata then yes you have

The true ascended one tier below irredeemable with Unlimited Saga and The Last Remnant

I don't play weeb games

>>384190031
EO is not an SRPG, fucking retard.

>>384189128
Why isn't Persona in Bandwagoner tier?

>>384190315
>Where is Es Em Tee
Right infront of you

>>384190315
It's in nip.

>>384189128
do you want me to tell you which games on the list I've played? cuz i fucking will

>>384190417
Then leave the thread.

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>>384189128
I've not played a lot, but I really liked Wild Arms 3?

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>Drakengard
>JRPG

>>384190315
SMT is already on there.

>>384189128
>Mario and luigi
>JRPG
Nintendo franchise RPGs are a category of their own.

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>tfw so obsessed with JRPGs it's the only thing you play

I'm pretty sure at least 1/4 of my life is just JRPGs now.

>>384189128
I've played at least one title on every tier
What now

>>384189128
I have played virtually every game in each franchise on this list except for anything by Compile Heart and that moe chronicle thing.

>>384189128
>Not liking Atelier Totori

Let me guess, the time limits were too hard?

>>384190704
does it make you happy?

>>384190856
Neptunia is Compile Heart.

>>384190751
if you've played games from multiple tiers, you belong to the lowest tier you've played a game from, which means you're irredeemable trash.

>>384191038
That doesn't make much sense.

>>384191007
Which is why I said anything by compile heart.
Keep up anon.

>>384189128
I've played everything in every category except Yo-Kai Watch. What does this make me?

>>384189128
>more than 70% of these series are dead.

I love the meme that obscure = better. Every game in the Mother series is clearly way better than generic shit like Grandia, but people will praise the latter for contrarian points.

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JRPGs are largely trash so I only play the most unconventional ones, the rest are liable to put me to sleep. Your list gets docked major points for failing to include Battle Network, which has one of the most unique battle systems in RPGs. Rest of this generic high fantasy/weeb trash could disappear from the industry and I wouldn't even notice.

>>384189128
>twewy
>dangerously otaku
Im nowhere near an otaku and I played the shit out of that game. Should be in jrpg fan maybe even lower.

>>384191038
OP here, this guy is right. sorry if i didnt clarify.

The lowest tier you;'ve played is where you rank. If you've only played up to a specific tier, thats where you are. If you've played drakengard anbd pokemon, you still rank at Drakengard

>>384191192
Oh look a nintendo fan
>If SMT disappeared nobody would care
Kid, if megaten disappeared you wouldn't even have Pokemon.

>>384191230
>not irredeemable trash
>>>reddit

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>Favorite JRPG series isn't even on there
Wew.

>>384191359
No.

>>384189302
>>384189391
I've played either the game or at least one of the games in every single one of these series. If you haven't you're probably a 21st century babby or close to one.

>>384191359
>If SMT disappeared nobody would care
That's not what I said, read again.

>If megaten disappeared you wouldn't even have Pokemon
On what grounds? Pokemon road on the coattails of Mother, not SMT. It has the same art direction, a similar battle system, had producers of Mother working the project, and Mewtwo was a direct reference to Giegue. SMT doesn't enter into that equation.

>>384191230
List is shit, only game i played lower than JRPG fan is Persona 5, your list doesn't make any sense.

>>384190031
Do you even play games?

>>384189128
Where would Lufia rank

>>384189128
I mostly play in Well Knowledged but I've played one from every category. Wild Arms 2 is my #5 game of all time.

>>384189128

>misspelling weaboo

>No Bravely Default

Gay.

>>384191892
it falls under Final fantasy.

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>No Chrono Cross
>No Dragon Force
>No Kartia
>No Monster Rancher
>No Sakura Wars
>No Disgaea
>No Langrisser
>No Lufia
>No Legend of

Filthy Casual

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>>384189128
Pokemon, Dragon Quest, Shining Force, Golden Sun, several MegaTen titles.
Dunno.

>>384189128
well-knowledged, would probably be further in but i'm hesitant to play games with anime art style unless they're really worth it

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Chopin tier.

>>384192019
>No Chrono Cross
Part of the chrono trigger series so it was implied.

>>384189128
I've played games from each category, so I'm not sure how you're supposed to place yourself on this.

>>384189128
Why are tehre both series and specific games?

>>384192019
>No legend of
You literally crossed it out genius

>>384191768
OP confirmed neo-/v/ twat.

>>384189128

How the fuck is Xenogears in bandwagoner tier?

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>>384192535
You're at the bottom then.

>>384189128
One of my favorite games is in Well Knowledged so I guess I'm a patrician unlike you faggots.

>>384191230
The way the list is laid out and what I understand about elitists weebs would lead me to believe Well Knowledged and maybe Weird Guy are supposed to be the patrician tiers, branching out to either Casual or Irredeemable Trash as two opposite but equally bad tiers. I can't buy that I'm supposed to interpret Pokemon or Neptunia as the best, and those are on opposite ends.

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checks for series I've played games from.
X for those I have not.
My only regret is that I've never played a Dragon Quest game despite really digging old JRPGs like the NES version of FF1.

>>384189302
Same

>>384193172
t. Neptunia autist

>Gee anon, how do you know these guys are faggots?
Well Billy, I'm sure even casual scum like you can see that SaGa hasn't been mentioned at all!

>>384193042
Gah you nigger, you've ruined me
>>384193335

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just picked up TWEWY, does this mean i'm a weeb? i thought it was _fun_

>>384189128
I own games up to dangerously otaku(phantasy star and shadow hearts), but only played up to well knowledged. Though I have no idea why SMRPG is there since most casual oldfags played it. I really should play Panzer Dragoon sometime though since I actually have it though.

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>>384189128
Aside from pic related, the lowest I go is Well Knowledged due to liking Super Mario RPG.
Assuming Ettrian Odyssey and Xenoblade aren't lower than Mario RPG.

>>384189128
>like a few games that happen to be JRPGs
>suddenly I'm a Casual Bandwagoner JRPG Fan

Or you're just a cynical, irredeemable faggot.

>>384192451
Underrated game. People can say whatever about the story and characters, but gameplay and music are top notch.

>>384193269
Neptunia sucks dick, but not half as much dick as you OP.

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>>384193746
It's ok to have shit taste, none of it matters in the end.
No reason to get upset

>your rank is the lowest game you've played
I don't understand the logic behind that in the first place, but it makes even less sense considering the top and the bottom are clearly opposite ends of the spectrum and not a matter of high or low.

>>384192864
armpits

In-between fan and well knoledged.

>>384193653
I'm pretty sure some casuals picked up Persona because of the hype it generated, but are actually casuals. I'd assume you find your fave series and rank up from there.

>>384189128
I've played at least two games from every catagory except Irredeemable Trash

>>384193990
I'm not the one getting upset over getting called out about my shit ranking system.

>>384193653
join the big boys and play with nip music and voices

>>384189128
some nintenbro named the categories I see

>>384189128
Dangerously Otaku, but I've played games in every category before that. If we count Nier as a part of Drakengard, I've played the first Nier.

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I only like darkest dungeon, cuz is straight to the point. What other game you guys recomend based on that?

>>384194182
I ranked up pretty high, I'm good.

Thanks for asking tho.

>>384194536
Quite honestly I'm not sure why Drakengard is there at all instead of Nier, but apparently Nier does count.

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>>384189128
>Paper mario is bandwagon

>played it when I was 10 when it first came out in 2000

>Moe Chronicle.
My interest is purely scientific. What is this?

>>384194636
Was this post meant for someone else or do you just have bad reading comprehension?

>>384194636
>I ranked high on a list I made myself
Congratulations.

>>384194780
Guess what, so did several hundred thousand others. YOu're not special for playing a mario game faggot

>>384189128
Weird Guy. I've played Trails of Cold Steel but never finished because it was boring af.

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>>384189128
I think the most JRPG-ass JRPG I've completed is Suikoden Tierkreis

>>384194070
How is no one addressing this?

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>>384189128
>I've played one in every category
Huh, you should have obscure RPGmaker games on there.

completed at least one game from each tier

>>384189128
>valkyrie profile
Only game I played in that list. What do I win?

>>384191662
i think you meant dragon quest 5

>>384189128
JRPG Fan and 1 Casual

>>384189681
hahaha

>>384189128
Somewhere between Well Knowledged and Dangerously Otaku.

>>384194780
it really should be casual.

>>384189302
>>384189391
I played almost all the games, but I'd say I'm in the JRPG Fan ranking. It's not that hard to categorize yourself. It just sounds like you're putting yourselves on a pedestal.

>>384195726
Come on man, nobody gives a shit about your inferiority complex.

>>384189302
Once you've played one of the lower ones, you classify as such.

>>384196631
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me the logic behind this.
>>384194070

>>384189128
>tfw Dangerously Otaku
Only because of Phantasy Star.

Persona should definitely be in bandwagoner or irredeemable trash, though. Garbage games

I used to be super gungho about playing every single game in a series, but nowadays I've found I can't care anymore. Theres only a handful of good games in most mainline JRPG series; that span 20+ motherships, and I'm not going out of my way to own all of Tales of and SMT just to own them.

>>384196797
>Bandwagoner
Sure
>Iredeemable
No. Just because you don't like Otome sims and the waifufag fanbase that comes with it, doesn't mean P3 didnt revolutionize its own genre of RPG playstyles.

>>384196775
There is no logic, they just want to feel like special snowflakes for only playing true patrician games for high-class intellectuals such as themselves.

>>384189302
This

>Super Mario RPG is better than M&L/Paper Mario

Go back to your retirement home, grandpa, and cry some more about how Geno will never be in a Smash Brothers game.

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>>384189128
Alright from the picture I like...

FFIV, FFV, FFVI, FFXII, FFXI (used to play online), KH2 for the gameplay
CTrigger, Paper Mario and Paper Mario TTYD
Dragon Quest V, VII, VIII
Super Mario RPG, Valkyrie Profile, Legend of Mana 1 (Jap2, also liked 3), Breath of Fire I through IV, fuck Dragon Quarter
The OG Shinning Force games
Phantasy Star Online 1 and 2
Drakengard 1 and 3 and to that extent Nier Automato

The fuck does that make me

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>>384189128
>Casual: played 4/5
>Bandwagoner: played 5/5
>JRPG Fan: played 5/6
>Well Knowledged: played 4/7
>Weird Guy: played 4/7
>Dangerously Otaku: played 5/6
>Weeaboo: played 1/4
>Iredeemable Trash: played 0/4
Where do I stand /v/?

>>384196775
You reach a tier.
Think of it as looking for the absolute min/maximum in a graph.
>>384197528
That doesn't make any sense. Someone that only plays obscure shit to be a snowflake would advocate for the "more common type of game you play" interpretation since it would make everyone else more normie. By making it an absolute, you're giving others the opportunity to go up/down ranks by only playing 1 niche title.

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Fuck Ops bullshit, heres a real one

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>tfw haven't played a single game on that list

>>384189128
As high as dangerously otaku and as low as casual.
this doesnt function, try again

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>>384198302
Grandmaster virgin I suppose, been playing since I was 6 years old or less, and that was since the atari 2600 days

>>384198596
>GMV
But have you FINISHED 1200 games?

>>384189128

6 of my all time favorites in knowledgeable.

I don't really know what to say other than my taste isn't that good.

>>384189128
I have played all these series except for undertale, is it good?

Why did N64-wii have such terrible JRPGs? SNEs used to have the best, and then its like everyone went to PS and Sega

>>384189128
What JRPGs have best mechanics? Most challenging, more than just attack spam, more than rock-paper-scissors weaknesses?

>>384189128
Dangerously Otaku, but barely, just due to Persona, which I would actually bump up a level.

Also, it's "weeaboo".

>>384200501
Nintendo didn't treat third parties very well. For instance they were the only ones allowed to manufacture cartridges so you had to submit the data to them for approval. They also had a rule that you could only publish five games a year which was a headache for larger devs.

>>384200842
Tales of and Rogue Galaxy for action. SMT and Mother for Turn based

Resonance of Fate for outlandish-why-the-fuck-did-we-make-this gameplay

>>384201149
>Casual
Why is it exclusively /v/ that treats popular games as bad? They wouldn't BE popular if people didnt like them. Pokemon pretty much coined its own style of battle mechanics to the point that it stands above even well loved but basic IPs like Dragon quest and Final fantasy.

inventive RPGs are the only oens worht playing. Nobody wants to sit there and play a literal Final fantasy clone with a new cast of characters when it essentially boils down to "I played this clone first, so its better ebcause nostalgia"

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>>384189128
M8, Persona belongs in the casual category. What's it doing down with Phantasy Star? That's a mans game, son.

>>384189128
Switch Tales of and Phantasy Star

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>>384202091
>Switch a series that bases itself on medeival fantasy culture for a japanese space opera in the dangerously otaku catagory

Berseria is like the only tales of that can even be called "Weeb" and thats all in part thanks to Rokuro

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>>384189128
I question these placings. Suikoden 2 alone is jerked off as being the second coming and lunar 1 and 2 are quite well known. Persona has become a normalfag series with 3-5, and golden sun should be at the bottom with the rest of the garbage. Also the lack of SaGa is pretty disgusting. Decent list overall I guess.

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>>384192019
>get on my level.jpg
>Hasn't played Phantasy Star
Look at the casual thinking he knows shit.

Who ever put Mario&Luigi in anything but casual is a retard.

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>Suikoden
>under weird instead of JRPG fan

>Golden Sun
>under JRPG instead of bandwagon

>Chrono Trigger
>under bandwagon

>Legend of Mana is named separate instead of the whole Seiken Densetsu series

>Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario and M&L under different categories

Not even gonna bother with this dumb list. The only things correct on this whole list got right is Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.

>>384189128
otaku apparently

twewy is amazing

>>384192698
Dragoon, not of Heroes

>>384193335
I try to never mention it in the thread to see how many times it is brought up or how long it takes.

"Well Knowledged" but literally only because I've played Super Mario RPG. In fact if it weren't for Mario RPGs I'd be stuck on tier 2

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Persona doesnt suddenly become casual just because 1 of 6 games was actually properly marketed.

>>384189128
The tiers are fucked. What's Panzer Dragon even doing there, there's only 1 RPG and 3 rail shooters. Atelier Totori doesn't belong with the Compile shovelware because it's a good game

>>384205790
>Anything by Gust after 2006
>Good

No.

>>384189128
Pretty much all of these.

What do I win?

>>384205925
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>>384205790
He's just another MUH MANA fag. When all the games fall under the Atelier series.

>>384205790
>Dead nothing over world
>vestigial shallow combat
>no stakes no effort stories
>crux of the game is being a cute girl doing things for a cast of anime tropes

Literally worse than Neps.

>>384206406
>>384205790
>Projecting
Atleier as a series is in iredeemable. Totori was just the first logo that came up.

Only a bandwaggoner, thank god I'm not more of a weeb.

>>384206508
>ignoring the core gameplay mechanic
alchemy & time management

This list is missing some shit.
>SaGa
>metal max
>arc the lad
>parasite eve
>megaman battle network
>lufia
And this is leaving out arpgs/trpgs.

if Nier counts, I'm a weaboo.

>>384206670
>Defending bad combat the only thing that should matter in an RPG for fluff

Holy fuck go play harvest moon if you want a timewasting sim. You faggots are exactly why JRPGs suck these days because they all pander to your thirsty degenerate asses

>>384206670
>Stripping out a single secondary RPG mechanic like crafting and putting a time limit on it

10/10 goty

>>384206861
but atelier is not a timewasting sim

in fact it's the opposite, if you waste time you lose

>>384206670
Even Ar tonelico grathmelding shits on Atelier crafting, which is ironic seeing as it was derived from it.

The lowest I have gone was Dangerously Otaku.

>>384189128
>Bad games
That games you play
>Good games
The games I play
Cool list OP

>>384189128
Everything but irredeemable trash. Those games look shitty.

>>384207563
Not even memeing, they are. I rented Neptunia a few years back because /v/ wouyldn't shut up about it, and It was the msot mediocre experience I ever had with an RPG. Not only was it bad boring dungeon crawling segments with no real missions, the combat was horribly lackluster and it took a good 2 minutes just to get through one turn, and the voice acting of the medic girl drove me up the fucking wall
>ARE YOU READY FOR YER SHOTS?
>SHOOOOOOOOT
>ITS SHOT TIME <3

Never fucking again. You can't even pay me enough to touch that tripe

>>384198163
Still doesn't make sense.
If ranking high is considered positive and low is considered negative, then wouldn't it stand to reason that casual is the best level to be? Because obviously it's not. It clearly operates on a spectrum where both extremes are negative and the middle is positive. I very seriously doubt that whoever made this chart intended for it to be used with this nonsensical ranking system.

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>vast majority of jrpgs I liked under JRPG fan
>but I played one "irredeemable" game so now I'm at that rank
Not sure how that works but okay.

>>384206508
>vestigial shallow combat
Don't be shocked sweetie, but Meruru, Ayesha, and even Firis have better battle system than Mana Khelmia and tons of other JRPGs that you find "good"

>>384189128
I sinewave between all of them

where to mobage fall on this list

>>384208795
>MOBA
Four tiers below iredeemable trash

>>384206983
Nobody can be this dumb.

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It's a shame so many people on /v/ skip over Atelier, which is a genuinely good series, just because they're too insecure to play anything with an anime aesthetic.

>>384208795
Mobage aren't even video games.

>>384208884
mobage not MOBA

shitty gacha is three tiers below

>>384189128
At least spell weeaboo correctly
>>384208369
The ranking makes perfect sense because you shouldn't be playing through garbage games like Moe Chronicles. If you enjoy that shit, you (appropriately) enter irredeemable trash territory. If you just touched it once to fuck around and dropped it after realizing it's a pile of dogshit, you obviously don't fall in that category.
Everything else is perfectly fine, being weeaboo doesn't make you any better than a casual or vice versa. It's just video games after all. You say the extremes are negative but there's nothing inherently wrong with being casual.

>>384209015
Wait there is a difference?

>>384209891
Still doesn't make sense. Why does playing something like Moe Chronicles make you irredeemable but playing something like Pokemon not making you casual?

>>384209891
Is someone a mad EO baby?

>>384209891
>You say the extremes are negative but there's nothing inherently wrong with being casual.
Anon, this list is clearly implying that such is the case. You're not going to tell me there's nothing wrong with being a bandwagoning faggot either, are you?

>>384189128
The fuck where's monster hunter

>>384210627
>Monster hunter
>JRPG

Its an action game with armor buffing you retard

>>384210627
Monster Hunter is about as much of a JRPG as Drakengard and Dark Souls, i.e. it's not and shouldn't be on that list.

>>384212035
Souls is a JRPG though. It has leveling stats strats, and progression all the staples of a JRPG. Its not a WRPG.

>>384213002
So does Castlevania, and its not an RPG.

>>384213002
>It has leveling stats strats, and progression
This has long since stopped being exclusive to RPGs.

>>384213002
>It's not a WRPG
You're right, it's not that either.

>>384205685
it's always been considered casual relative to other megami tensei games
persona would've been on this list since 3 came out

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>>384213152

Not that guy, but if stat progression isn't the basis of what makes an RPG, then the term has become so watered down that no game can be classified as RPG. Because being turn based, story focused or anime designs sure doesn't classify it as RPG. The only thing left is numerical stat progression.

>>384213107

But it's considered a 2D Action/Platformer with stat progression. Are you gonna say Seiken Densetsu isn't an RPG? Again, the line is so blurred that RPG has lost all meaning.

>>384213456
Alright anon, I'll give you that.

If you can admit that Call of Duty mutiplayer is an RPG by your standard.

Kingdom Hearts and Undertale belong in "weird guy" zone.

Yokai and Mother belong in "weaboo" zone.

Paper Mario belongs in "trash" zone.

Dot Hack gets upgraded to "jrpg fan" zone.

Dragon Quest goes in "bandwagon" zone.

Persona goes in "casual" zone.

>>384214604
But KH and Undertale are as normalfag as you can get.

>>384189128
I'm casual tier and I would not have it any other way.

>>384214004
This always makes the rpg nerds butts sore, but yeah CoD online mode is 100% an rpg.

>level system
>need high levels to equip good weapons
>level up weapons and equipment
>exp grinding
>party raids
>pvp

CoD is an rpg like it or not.

>>384214869
Ok I'll give you undertale, but KH is definitely weird guy zone tho.

>>384214939
Hey man, that's fine with me. You stuck to your argument and didn't pussy out like most people would when confronted as such, so although I may not agree with you, you have my respect.

Knowledged isn't a word, 'well knowledged' isn't even a common colloquialism (as opposed to weeaboo for example). I can't put myself in the mind of someone who would seriously use 'well knowledged' as an actual phrase. It's even more insane than 'professional quote maker.'

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>>384189128
Idk, you tell me

>>384215059
I've met plenty of normalfags who are into KH.
That's not to say there isn't a huge number of weird fucks who are into it.

>>384190034
Implying Starbucks commies want to leave their comfort and privilege they enjoy in their gated communities in burgerland. Hahaha. I'd love to see that.

>>384189128
Well knowledged. Although I played Tales of Symphonia on GCN, but it was shit. Pretty good list I suppose.

>>384215059
>Disney
>Weird guy

Nice joke anon. KH is as normal fag as japanese games get.

>>384189128
I have played every single game (or at least one game from each franchise) in that image, and I don't even like rpgs.

>>384215059
>KH is definitely weird guy zone
>trailer was #3 on trending on youtube
not a chance

Bandwagoner at best. There is absolutely nothing in Japanese games that interests me. Any time I see a bug eyed girl moaning on the screen I know the devs only made the game for autists to jerk off to.

>>384215059
>When asked multiple PS4 owners, Statistics show 65% of PS4 owners purchased a PS4 exclusively for KHIII, a game that isnt even out nor has a release date pending.

>>384215120
I'm a different anon, I just saw your back and forth with other anon and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

>>384215776
>Old genesis and PS1 RPG classics were made to jerk off too.

The only criteria that even fits that is the absolutel last bottom tier.

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>AT
>not patrician
kys faggot

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Alright, post your favorite jrpg.

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Is this designed for teenagers? Yes, I'm too old for /v/.
I've played everything in the bandwagoner category within months of its original release, save mother 3. Similarly I've played everything in the "well knowledged" category because those were the games that were anticipated and talked about.
"Weird Guy"? Those games were hugely popular.
What's the point of ranking this stuff if you weren't even there for its release?
I didn't mean to spoiler that random image in previous post so I corrected it.

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>>384215776
Metal Gear solid and Dark souls are more weeb than anything in that list bar the very bottom.

>>384216001
Wild Arms. Mainly for the Morricone ripoff overworld theme.

Yes I know that's a retarded reason to love a game, but it's what kept me playing and made me love it, so I guess I'm retarded.

>>384198302
Literally none one here has completed more than 5 games.

>>384189128
A lot of these aren't role playing games, especially fucking kingdom hearts, and neptunia ffs

>>384216219
Please define weeb

>>384214904
I'm 2 parts casual and 1 part bandwagoner.

Pokemon
Final Fantasy
Dark Souls

I'm happy with my choices.

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>>384216264
Thats a good joke anon.
806 as of this week. Just finished Portal runner, No one Lives forever, and I'm now working on Persona 2.

Don't believe me? I'll let you consult my chart.

>>384216410
Anyone who plays japanese games

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Here to shill my own jrpg thread.
>>384216424
>>384216424
>>384216424

>>384216661
That doesn't sound like an adjective but you used it as one for mgs and ds

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>generally either hate or have literally zero interest in RPGs
>still think Chrono Trigger is a masterpiece, Persona 4 and 5 are some of my favorite games, and really dig TWEWY

what does that even say about me

>>384216983
That you like RPGs. how is this rocket science?

>>384216264
I'm 29
I've played and beaten so many games I've lost track, it stops mattering anymore after 100.

>>384216983
It means you generally either hate or have literally zero interest in RPGs but still think Chrono Trigger is a masterpiece, Persona 4 and 5 are some of my favorite games, and really dig TWEWY

>>384216983
Are you saying you have no interest in playing more RPGs, or you've played a lot and those are the only ones you like?

>>384214004

The thing is not 'This is an RPG and nothing else'. The issue is that RPG mechanics have found their way into most games. So Call of Duty can be a FPS that has RPG mechanics sprinkled in. Just like SotN is a 2D Action/Platformer with RPG mechanics added on. So their primary genre is FPS or platformer, not RPG.

>>384217176

I deserved that

>>384217464

I've definitely started a lot over the years, wouldn't say I've finished many though. I think the only other series of RPGs I play are the pokemon games and even then I'm not in it for the gameplay and tend to get really fucking bored of the grind after a certain point every time.

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>>384214604

People outside Japan don't buy Dragon Quest based on hype. It's the exact opposite of bandwagon. It has a small dedicated fanbase.

>>384217754
Then clearly Monster Hunter doesn't belong on the list.

>>384217781
>Grind
>Pokemon
>A game that literally has EXP share

u wot?

>>384217994
You'd be surprised at how much other autistic bullshit you have to do outside of that just to get a viable team for competitive.

>>384189128
are these all jap games?
never played any of these, wtf

>>384217754
So what exactly turns you off from the games then? Persona 4 and 5 are some of my favorite games as well but it's heavy into RPG territory, whereas chrono trigger is pretty simple

>>384217986

Correct.

>>384218286

I think you might be referring to someone else. I never said I get turned off by any games. Just throwing some devil's advocate into the 'what is an RPG' discussion that was already going on.

>>384218286
>>384218450
Woops, meant for >>384217781

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>>384189128

>only game on the entire list that is played competitively in tournaments
>casual

>>384217994

Black/White made you grind because it was so painfully linear, you had nowhere to level. It was so bad they specifically added in a new Pokemon that gave 3x more exp than usual, so people could level faster around level 25-30.

Aside from that, most Pokemon games don't make you grind in the main story. But anything in the end game is the epitome of grinding. Breeding, EV/IV crap and leveling Pokemon to 99 makes MMORPGs look docile. Sad to say I actually did that.

I've only played Bloodborne, and i'm planning to stop there, because i'll never like the turn based combat that plagues this games.

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>>384189128

>Paper Mario
>Mario Luigi
>Super Mario RPG
>Pokemon

>NIntendokiddies thinking their shitty casual games are anything but kiddie trash

>>384218653
>Painfully linear
Gen V was the best game BECAUSE it was linear. The only game that gave the same feeling of adventure Gen 1 initially did. Fuck the normal populace for shitting on it all because "BUT MUH CHARIZARDS NOT IN"

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>>384219182
>Gen V was the best game BECAUSE it was linear. The only game that gave the same feeling of adventure Gen 1 initially did.
fucking what?

>>384218618
People play rock paper scissors competitively

>>384219182
>Gen V was the best game BECAUSE it was linear. The only game that gave the same feeling of adventure Gen 1 initially did.

Isn't Gen 1 the only one that lets you get badges out of order

>>384219386
Not him but I think he means in the way that gen 5, like gen 1 upon release, only had pokemon we were unfamilar with. I really loved how gen 5 forced you to go outside your comfort zone and use new pokemon only and the sequel allowing you to use both old and new, it was pretty smart honestly.

>>384219567
Gen 2 and to a much lesser degree, gen 4 did as well

>>384219386

I've had this show's theme stuck in my head for like three days straight and I've never even seen it.

is it any good, looks cute

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>>384219386
You heard me. And yes I started pokemon in 1996. Gen V was the only game to actually get my hype for pokemon back. IV was great and then V came and blew my expectations for it sky high and it became my favorite gen and adventure to replay over and over.

>>384219593
This guy gets it. Gen V made me feel surprised to actually find new pokemon again and strategize, Previous gens were more "Oh look, a pidgey again, oh look, a zubat again.." Gen 6 and 7 went back to this system and even more-so with X/Y vehemenant Gen 1 pandering that it just broke my interest alltogether in modern pokemon.

>>384219182

Gen 1 was linear because of size constraints on the GB. And even then, it was far more open than Gen 5 was. Gen 1 would have you retread certain areas multiple times and put long patches of grass or water on a route. All of this was done to make sure you had the necessary battles to level. Gen 5 was literally just straight paths you could cross in 2 minutes, with some grass on the side. You'd rush to the next town and, after a half hour of boring cutscenes, you'd find you need to level 8 more levels before you can take on the next gym. Whoops. Now you have to go back out onto the route you just came from and grind. Whereas in Gen 1 you would have gained at least 4-5 levels just getting to the next town.

>>384219182
Gen V wasn't just linear. It was literally a fucking circle. The map was the most boring, uninspired pile of shit excuse for a map in the entire series. I'd rather go back to Hoenn. At least that had good parts.

>>384219905
>And yes I started pokemon in 1996
Despite what you may have been led to believe, this doesn't magically stop you from having shit taste.

>>384220339
Seeing as Galvantula, Cofagrigus, Chandelure, Excadrill, Hydreigon, Scrafty, Ferrothorn, Escavalier, Accelgor, Crustle, Lilligant, Whimsicott, Scolipede, Carracosta, and literally all the best pokemon exist in Unova's Dex, I'd say you'r the ones whos taste needs to be questioned.

>>384219905

>And yes I started pokemon in 1996.
Pokemon came out in 1998, unless you're going to claim you're Japanese. Which I'll laugh at.

>>384220915
Whatever. It was kindergarten.

>>384220795
That's got nothing to do with it, anon.

>>384220795
The point he's trying to make is that your taste isn't suddenly infallible just because you've been playing since day one.

Guess what? I've been playing since the original release as well.
Guess what else? Nobody gives a shit.

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>>384220221
>It was a fucking circle
Way to prove you've never played it. This is hardly a circle at all. Now if you want a circle, I believe Viridian - Cinnabar fits your bill better.

>>384220221
>Gen V wasn't just linear. It was literally a fucking circle

So were gen 1 and 2.
>Viridian > Cinabar > back to Viridian > Indigo plateau
>Newbark > Blackthorne > Back to Newbark > Tojo Falls

>>384189128
Because you don't seem to have enough of them yet, (You)

>>384222267

Your image proves it isn't a circle, but that it is the epitome of linear.

played at least 2 from each category with the exception of the bottom two rows

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>bandwagoner is all top quality jRPGs
>jRPG fan is casual shit like DQ, golden sun, M&L, and dark cloud

what did he mean by this?

>>384225098
Mother plays exactly like DQ, how can you like one but not the other?

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>>384189302
This.

FPBP

>>384225098

>jRPG fan is casual shit like DQ
I bet you couldn't even get through Dragon Quest II or VI if you tried. Regardless, Dragon Quest created JRPGs. Even if you don't like it, it created or popularized most of what JRPGs are known for.

>>384225497

Almost everyone who bashes Dragon Quest hasn't actually played one fully. You can tell because they never have any examples of why the games are bad besides parroting generalizations like 'lol grinding' or 'toriyama art sucks!' (while still loving Chrono Trigger).

>>384225497
mother 3's combat system where you follow the rhythm of the music is a lot better than any system in DQ

You're right about EB and mother 1 though, I was mostly thinking about mother 3 (the best one) when I made that post

>>384225570
Come on, are you really going to try and tell me DQ isn't casual? Even the FF games are on average more challenging

I've beaten VI btw haven't played II yet

>it created or popularized most of what JRPGs are known for

yeah it's popular because it's simple and accessible

>>384225098
>casual shit
>dark cloud
>golden sun
those games are obscure as fuck to normies, what are you talking about?

>>384225631
I'm>>384225098

I'm not trashing DQ I like the series, but lets not pretend it's not casual

>>384189128
2 casual
3 bandwagoner
2 jrpg fan
2 well acknowledged
1 weird guy
0 otaku
0 weeaboo
0 trash

i'm probably casual because i love me some fucking pokemon

>>384225631
I think a lot of people just know it as "the origonal jrpg series" and think every game is like famicon DQII levels of bullshit difficulty. Really a shame.
>>384225728
Maybe in Japan but not outside of it. It may have a nostalgia factor in Japan but to outsiders it's a moderately niche series known more for it's reputation then anything. Casual isn't automatically bad anon, DQ is good as while casual it never really babies you.

>>384225728
>Lets pretend its not casual
>Doesnt even get localized for most of its games
>Still isnt getting localized now.

FF is Normie core. DQ is not.

>>384199339
>asking if Undertale is good in /v/
I liked it. It's not that expensive and there's an update coming soon including hard mode with an expanded story. I think it's worth the price but you can just wait for a sale or pirate it.

>>384225693
being obscure doesn't mean they arn't casual, golden sun as a whole is very easy (especially dark dawn) with the exception of a few difficulty spikes in TLA

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>>384225646

>Come on, are you really going to try and tell me DQ isn't casual? Even the FF games are on average more challenging
Um, what? The only thing challenging in FF games are dumb bosses like in FFIV where you get OHKO'd by not using the one skill they're weak to. Aside from this, every FF game since VI have been some of the easiest RPGs in history.

I'm not going to pretend Dragon Quest is hard, but they certainly have more variety and difficulty in battle than Final Fantasy games. You can claim Final Fantasy is better for trying new things or graphics or music, but comparing them by difficulty is a REALLY bad example.

>>384189128
Only played Pokemon and Undertale. Don't really care because i hate RPGs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>384226158
how does a game getting localized or not make it casual or not? Are you suggesting the japanese play harder games than the West? Because that's completely not true

>>384225646

>yeah it's popular because it's simple and accessible
Kind of like Final Fantasy? Well, Final Fantasy getting $100 million advertising certainly helps as well. While Dragon Quest doesn't. And doesn't sell much in the west as a result. Oops, looks like it's not really popular after all.

>>384226324
>Um, what? The only thing challenging in FF games are dumb bosses like in FFIV where you get OHKO'd by not using the one skill they're weak to. Aside from this, every FF game since VI have been some of the easiest RPGs in history.

agreed with all of this (although X has the highest spikes in difficulty), but despite these they're still harder or equivocal to DQ in difficulty, in other words casual

>>384226453
>Kind of like Final Fantasy?

yeah FF is casual too. What's your point?

>>384226303
>being obscure doesn't mean they aren't casual
except the whole premise of a casual is that they don't know a lot about the genre or don't go into games that require a bit more work. Golden and Dark cloud aren't games a casual JRPG fan would look at a think they would play it

>>384189128
Is Terranigma still considered obscure?

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>the best JRPG is still Western

>>384226613
casual refers to a game being easy/accessible, which golden sun sure as shit is (you can argue against it for the first dark cloud but I still think so)

>>384226628

No. Obviously a casual won't know about it, but anyone who's into retro RPGs does

>>384226682
>Tolkien shit
>EA

0/10 Even skyrim shits on it

>Mother
Am I still a bandwagoner if I played all 3 games though?

1>3>2 personally. Mt. Itoi and onward were amazing

>>384189128
Casual

>>384226459

>but despite these they're still harder or equivocal to DQ in difficulty
Then why is it that each new DQ game that comes out, there's a wave of people rage quitting over the games because they get to some spot like Murdaw or Dhoulmagus and it gets too hard for them?

Did it ever occur to you that maybe you just suck at Final Fantasy?

>in other words casual
Casual is not a synonym for easy. People rage over Mario Party, Smash Bros and Rhythm games every day.

>>384227549
>Then why is it that each new DQ game that comes out, there's a wave of people rage quitting over the games because they get to some spot like Murdaw or Dhoulmagus and it gets too hard for them?

game attracts casuals which rage at certain points in the game

>Did it ever occur to you that maybe you just suck at Final Fantasy?

I've already stated FF is easy as well, in fact in the same damn post you replied to

>Casual is not a synonym for easy

it kind of does

>>384227549
difficulty of mario party/smash bros depends on your opponent, you can't compare it to an average RPG. Rhythm games are generally more difficult than RPGs on harder difficulties

>>384227831

The point is that all those games are associated with the poorly defined term casual. You can even go online to Steam or Nintendo's e-shop and see 'Genre: Casual' next to them. Casual has nothing to do with difficulty but perception.

>>384227731

>game attracts casuals which rage at certain points in the game
[citation needed]

>I've already stated FF is easy as well, in fact in the same damn post you replied to
Then why did you claim Final Fantasy is harder than Dragon Quest? That's obviously the part I'm challenging. But you have no real way to prove it. It just comes down to your personal experience with both series. And I'm surprised that you had a harder time playing Final Fantasy games than DQ, since it's the total opposite in my experience. Note that I also said DQ isn't necessarily hard, but still more challenging than any FF game since the SNES. And both Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy were hard on the NES.

>>384228804
well comparatively smash bros is more casual (easier) than other fighters but we're comparing to RPGs which doesn't work

Move Golden Sun to Irredeemable Trash tier and we're good.

>>384229132
>look ma! I posted it again!

>>384229173
Greentexting me won't change the fact that Golden Sun is awful.

>>384189128
You could easily break up many of those series into specific games that would be all over the place on that list.

>>384189302
Are you me? Probably not. That would be silly.

>>384229061
because FF is harder than DQ on average, it's still not hard. Especially if we're also including the MMOs in which case FF stomps DQ due to savage/balad/EX content (though some EX primals are piss easy)

>But you have no real way to prove it

You're right, I have my experience alone. FF being harder than DQ wasn't even the main point I was trying to get across, it's that DQ is casual. Won't change whether you think one series is harder than the other

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The person who made the image tried it and got upset over its aged mechanics and reading.

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>>384189128
WTF I am well knowledged?
feels good man

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>>384189128
>Atelier in that tier
>Can't be a Souls fan without being a bandwagoner

Kill yourself. Who the fuck makes these shitty bait images? Stop trying to spread your cancerous taste to gullible newfags.

>>384229331

>FF being harder than DQ wasn't even the main point I was trying to get across, it's that DQ is casual.
But your comments about Dragon Quest being casual is predicated on your comparison that DQ is easier than FF. If you go by that logic, over half this list would also have to go into casual, because they're just as easy or easier than Dragon Quest.

It makes the term 'casual' over generalized. Which admittedly it is. But then if that'sthe case, it needs to be redefined or retired. I can find a way to say any series, even Dark Souls, is 'casual'. Dark Souls is popular and liked by a bunch of bandwagon mouth breathers. Therefore its casual. But then difficulty has to be removed from the generalization of casual.

>>384189128
Mostly JRPG fan with a dash of Dangerously Otaku & Casual