Icon: Combat Arena

>>384185464
The name is dumb because the characters are the blandest looking shit imaginable.

i dont really care that they are just ripping off smash because they worked on project M but god damn those character designs are ugly as fuck.

i know this tends to get said a lot without any meaning to it but the characters literally look tumblr tier.

>>384185464
Get the fuck out of here, marketer. The game looks fucking horrible both graphic and gameplay wise.

>>384185968
I like Girl Marth. That's about it.

Hopefully cosmetics will fix the rest.

>>384186286
>Name is dumb
>Looks okay
Boi I'm trying to stay positive. I wish I could be paid as a marketer for literally the most milquetoast opinions.

>>384185464
I've mixed feelings about it :
>no L-cancels
>default unity assets
>unity
>bad anims
>smash movesets ripoff
>dumb design
>shield gimmick that'll encourage defensive play
>dumb name
>trailer is just random gameplay with random text (for instance "ONLINE FEATURES", then normal gameplay video, where are my project m trailers ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFSW_Zq-Xyg)

characters are dumb
then again, they're pretty much set up for failure because everybody will immediately compare their roster to smash, and a small indie fan project like this simply does not have the capacity to create a character roster that can even come close to the sheer quality of smash's roster, which is the product of 20 years of work from one of the industry's biggest corporations.

>>384186528
>shield gimmick that'll encourage defensive play

what's this about?

>>384185464
Where the fuck have I seen the little goatman before ? Its so generic and uninspired.

Melee players will never migrate from their precious little game even if you give them a game with the exact same mechanics.

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>>384186528

>those mechanics

It may look like equal shit but at least the Melee Masters guy has good mechanics.

>>384187056
>make game that is different from melee
>"why should we play this, its not melee, we want to play melee"
>make game that is a melee clone
>"why play a clone when we can just play the original melee that we are used to"

the only winnning move is not to play

>>384186837
when you shield you can "push" your opponent away by using a bit of HP or whatever they'll call that.

Terrible name and terrible character designs. What a let down.

>>384187431
What? Can I get a source?

>>384187431

i think thats actually a good idea; basically a Smash-style adaptation of a pushblock?

hopefully when they do their reddit AMA or whatever the fuck tomorrow they primarily highlight the new shit theyve brought to the table

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>>384185464
Do these guys really think people play Smash for the gameplay? I bet they also think the X-Men are just functions.

>>384187567

http://kotaku.com/icons-combat-arena-expands-the-world-of-platform-fight-1796966145?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

yeah yeah, kotaku

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>>384187232
fuck me that screenshot is old. the new post-processing stack makes thing look much nicer

>>384187567
their twitter
>>384187621
Except that it makes projectiles easier to counter (can replace powershileding) and that it'll punish shield pressure

>>384185464
i could have given the generic artstyle a pass if the movement and animations didnt feel like complete shit.

>ripped of animations and moves from Smash

When is Nintendo going to shut this down?

>>384185464
Sound effects of Icons in a nutshell:

https://youtu.be/psYmX4n7RRA

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>>384185464

>>384187984
you can't trademark animations famalam.

they couldn't (or can't now) contest the name "Melee Masters" either. Already passed trademarking.

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>>384187827
Are they Sims? What's with those markers?

>>384187664
Dog-kun is that you?

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>>384185464
>Shit artstyle
>Sounds effects are boring
>Characters are ugly
>Gameplay looks okay

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>>384185464
>Make a Smash clone
>Don't make anything look exciting or hype
Won't it make more sense to copy Smite or Fate's "Who would win in a fight Thor or Anubis" gimmick and apply it to Icons like how Smash pulls off the "Who would win in a fight Mario or Link" gimmick?

smash is only smash because of the characters

they're making smash without the characters

I'm sure it will work out just fine... : O )

Holy fucking shit, that looks bad LMAO.

>>384185464
>ex-Project M developers
They might as well be called modders than experienced devs if this game is the result of their craft. Nintendo assets really made their experience shine, take that away and you just get a mediocre looking title. Bad first impressions overall.

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>>384188115
The general theme of the game is the gems give them elemental power and thats my way of marking players (offline at least). Admittedly it does look like the sims crystals but these are supposed to be shaped differently.

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PM DIED FOR THIS.

>Free to play

It keeps getting worst.

>>384188596
PM was pretty much finished anyway.

>>384188851
10 Characters yet to be added is finished?

I don't understand why they would show the game off when it looks sooo shitty. I'm sure it'll end up good, but jesus.

Also,why the fuck is Kidd just Fox+? You have an opportunity for a new take on a spacie, and you just remake Fox? I can't believe they even gave him SHDL.

>>384188851
They might have finished the core characters but they were trying add more characters to the roster.

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>>384188336
Personally I'd be down for a GOOD Smash clone that uses public domain characters as the roster. Think about it.

>Robin Hood
>Zorro
>Dracula
>John Carter
>Cthulhu
>King Arthur
>Sinbad
>Dejah Thoris

Shit would be awesome if they could pull it off.

>Female Marth
>Female Ganon
>Female Captain Falcon
>Human Fox
>Goat Falco

Couldn't they at least try just a little bit?

>>384188948
I fell for the same mistake. But i'm a solo dev with no council and a programmer, they have a team and """"professionals"""". Idk how they fell for the same meme I did.

>>384185464
>lightning fast
>WOOP
>WOOP
>WOOP
>Goat McCloud

yea ok

only decent char design is the asian girl. Rest look like marvel rejects. One of the worst art styles possible. Tumblr shitheads must have drawn and designed this trash

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Rivals of Aether looked better than this at the very least and the scene is pretty much dead. This game looks like ass, already getting negative feedback, and it's not even out yet.

>>384189021
Anything can sound good paper, hell this game did. Unless it has an art style, it won't get appeal which Icons failed to do.

>Pre-Alpha Footage
>Every comment is people nitpicking graphical effects, animations, sound effects

People are never going to learn what pre-alpha means. Showing this so early was a mistake, but people wanted to see gameplay. When they see gameplay, they nitpick the graphics. There's no winning.

Criticism regarding the movesets/art designs themselves is valid, but people going MUH HIT SOUND EFFECTS need to go drown in a puddle.

These smash clones always look like crap because of the garbage animations and lack of polish. Say what you will about Sakurai, his games always feels good to play because he know how to make hits fill like hits. You'd expect people who have such technical knowledge of the game to rip those details off, rather than ripping off movesets.

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>>384185464
what a waste of time.

why not jus use stick figures? that would've looked better.

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>>384185464
Why does a Smash clone have worse character designs than a Sports MOBA?

>>384188851
Knuckles/Lyn/Issac were all almost finished

>>384189708
What i don't understand is that here are even shitty stock sound effects that sound more violent than what they're using here. It's like they went out of there way to make it sound bland.

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>>384189708
I tried mang, I even watched a lot of videos on fighting game animation specifically, its hard to do and not my profession.

The animations are slowly improving however, but for a preview into the process that has to go on to implement this shit.

>>384189053
Actually, it's
>Hot Marth
>Goat Wolf
>Male Samus
>Green DK
>Black Ganon

>Smash clone with no B-E tier characters
Looks like boring shit desu

>>384190010
Hit freeze is super important - when someone gets hit, the two characters involved get their animations frozen for a few seconds. That's normal for fighting games, but Smash goes beyond this by actually slightly shaking the characters. The harder the hit, the more violently they shake before getting pushed away. Camera shakes also need to be sudden, big and very quick, screen shaking is usually considered "instant polish", making a game look better with little effort. Then there are tons of tiny little special effects like dirt when dashing or jumping, electric bolts when you get hit, characters flashing white or red when they get hit, etc. And finally, the animations need to look good. There's a good reason fighting games are so hard to do, you really need top notch animators working on them.

>no sexy characters

SJW trash

>>384191493
epic

>>384191493
>He doesn't want to pound Girl Marth into the dirt

>>384191364
I'm implemented all of these things in my game (well, the on-hit stuff), I just haven't posted proper gameplay recently. mainly because all my old friends suck dick at the game, and I don't want to post of a video of my just destroying my own AI.

All of the other smash clones failed and this looks worse than all of them. It will fail.

>>384191917
>I just haven't posted proper gameplay recently
Do it homo.

>>384192046
It would just be me comboing my AI anon.

>>384192040
I do hope they fail, they were so full of themselves before the gameplay trailer that I'd rather see them die and let us just play PM instead
(just watch all their "devlogs" videos or their "character reveal", how they selled goodies of their company before showing their game, how they called themselves saviour of the "platform-fighting" genre, fuck)

>>384192489
So?

This soundtrack does not sound like "fighting"

>>384192618
Fug, after the new GoT episode

>>384189021
This is actually not a bad idea. Look at Fate.

>>384189021
>>Robin Hood
>>Zorro
>>Dracula
>>John Carter
>>Cthulhu
>>King Arthur
>>Sinbad
>>Dejah Thoris
Why didn't they do this

>>384192040
Hey man Brawlhalla isn't bad at all

>>384192489
Let's see it

>>384189671
Dragonball FighterZ is 20% done.

>>384193619

>>384192993

>>384193815

Based on the gameplay I've seen, I don't believe that statement is accurate at all. A game that was 20% finished would look much, much, MUCH rougher. If there is truth to it, it probably means that the game systems and graphical/sound work has been completed, and the remaining work is to add new characters, moves, and a story mode. The gameplay itself looks pretty close to final.

It's not comparable to what we're seeing from Icons, which is clearly a game engine that is still in progress at a basic level.

>>384194642
As a developer, DBZ is 90% done.

>>384185464
Animations look poor, to be honest. Every character looks like they're animated like Wario was in Brawl.

>>384189021
Terrordrome 2 is doing that with horror characters.