Is he right?

Obviously

I'm blind and not American, how do you spell his last name?

>>384172783
Of course, it's amazing that this even needs to be said. Only gamers are dumb enough to pay money upfront to receive a product of unknown quality later.

>>384172783
What is he trying to say here?

Is he an eceleb?

>>384173179
Don't be a corporate cuck

>>384172783

Thanks for stating the obvious, TB. What would we do with you?

What if the owner of the company is my friend?

>>384173139
B-I-G-G-U-Y

>>384173246
better than a slave to the black man

>>384173139
bainis :DD

>>384173179

he's saying don't preorder shit

>>384173324
Then you're a shill for life and your opinions are instantly invalidated

>>384173162
you forget that people in do the same thing with the auto industry.

if it wasn't for brand loyalty im 100% a lot of car and motorcycle companies would have gone under long ago

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>>384173342
>implying corporate cucks are not BLACKED too

>>384172783
Hes not wrong but companies should treat their audiences with some dignity and respect if they want repeat customers especially ones who aren't able to afford major consumer losses like Capcom over the years that still get by but shit gets worse and worse for them because of bad business practices.

One big companies that make shit like WRPGs/Mainstream FPS/Sandbox games can afford to flick off fans and basically still be in the major green.

>>384172783
Yes, but also, no one except 12 years olds think ecelebs/devs/publishers are their friends, so either, he's preaching to the choir, or his fans are 12 years olds. Either way, he should re-evaluate whether it was something worth tweeting about.

sony is my friend, theyre #4theplayers and im a player... sooo....

>>384173342
corporations push BLACKED meme, just look at this years E3

>>384172783
He's absolutely correct, but I save my money for companies I feel care about me.

>>384173462
More like YELLOWED

At the same it's hilarious how game companies go out of their way to state how much they hate their customers sometimes, let alone rip them off with many bad practices.

>>384173692

You say that but there are thousands that suck Gabe Newell's dick to this day despite Steam sales being a pale shadow of what they were and new Valve games being nowhere in sight

>>384172783
Bethesda is still in business so no. People will devour anything with the right marketing.

>>384173585
the way he means it is basically in a "do not form attachments to companies, they are not people, don't shill for them, don't excuse them and hold them accountable to every mistake"

not in a "companies shouldn't respect their customers" way

>battleforthenet
cringe

GAMERS ARE DEAD
PREORDER NOW FOR EXCLUSIVE CONTENT

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>>384173139
Read my lips

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>>384173346

>>384173897
I can safely say I'll buy the next Elder Scrolls despite every game becoming more and more casualized, so you're deffinetly right.

>>384173692
Have you ever been to a twitch stream with more than 2k viewers? My friend, my buddy, top donor this, biggest contribution that - these guys are playing their audience, acting like their best fucking friends, for money and people fall for that. From the saudi prince that really likes that blonde piece of ass to the minimum wage cuck that wants to buy a streamers affection even if that means no food today.

>>384173875
You're implying that fanboys aren't entitled babies most of the time.

>>384172783
duh, wont stop the masses of retards though

>>384172783
>/v/ - E-celeb Twitter Posts

Kill yourself.

>>384174416
it's board culture. fuck off

>>384174416
>an opinion isn't worth discussing if it was posted somewhere other than 4chan
You're a fucking imbecile

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>>384174224
Thanks, friend.

>>384174517
No it isn't
>>384174589
Eceleb garbage has no place here

>>384174517
>>384174589
>evidence of neo /v/

>>384174271
I was more implying that you could support a company for 20 years but if you so much as post #GamerGate on twitter you are then that company's enemy and they claim to no longer want your support.

>>384172783
Bain?

>>384172783
this guy is still alive?

>>384173319
If you already know it then it's not meant for you, genius. Look at all the people pre-ordering and giving companies money pointlessly all the time

>>384173179
people don't like it when you make fun of their company waifu
Kind of like how Overwatch is a garbage game but you aren't allowed to say that because it is made by Blizzard-sempai

>>384172783
He's right though. There's a lot of eastern companies that used to be a qualitative set of projects to the point you wanted to travel to Japan and shake the hands of everyone who was involved in that company.
Nowadays, you'll just get run-in-the-mill corporate bullshit and normie pandering.

I think the last game i bought was Fallout 4 and that was a major disappointment. Nothing else looked even remotely interesting since.

>>384172783
Nah, he just doesn't understand Nintendo's special relationship with it's fans.

>>384174226
>>384173879
>Pcbros
>Twitchttoddlers
I didn't say they didn't exist, I said they were 12 years olds, which they are. They'll learn this lesson by themselves when mommy and daddy stop buying their games and they have to spend their own money.

>>384175334
I guess an abusive relationship is still a "special" relationship

>>384173897
>>384174224
Going out of business is very unlikely for those companies since there are always cucks sucking their dicks for retarted reasons

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>>384175334
This

>>384172783

Bain?

>>384175517
Also, fuck that filter. I typed Valve.drones, which isn't the same as a PCF.ag, the latter is at least 10 orders of magnitude more respectable.
Retarded dipshit mods.

This coming from a guy who makes his living as a surrogate friend for 12 year olds?

>>384173324
It's not the company that is your friend in that case, it is the owner of it.

>>384173179
Don't be a brand loyalist.
Corporations should cater to you, and not vice versa.

Sure but the customer is king. Many companies simply can't get away with e everything because buyers still control their success. In a competitive market keeping trust for long term is key unlike in cartel industries like retail or gasoline

BAIN?

>Hire a cute girl as a community manager
>Force her to be very active on the forums and be cutesy all the time
>Any time a thread veers towards criticizing the company send her in to run damage control
>Criticizing the company quickly becomes a crime punishable by banning, or at least a warning, and excommunication from the community by all the white knights
Easy.

>>384173342
What's that even supposed to mean

>>384175334
"special" relationship for a very "special" audience.

>>384172783
No. I appreciate the sentiment but the value of reputation in ANY industry cannot be overstated.

If the standard rule is "never trust", then a company has no reason to earn or maintain your trust. That's bad for consumers.

>>384172783
He's also saying don't be a filthy pirate.

>>384177013
Trust and even brand loyalism isn't bad as long as you are still holding them up to a high standard. When you let them get away with bullshit just because you "like" them or "trust" them, you become part of the problem and decay into drone status.

>>384175334
Nintendo is one of the shittiest soulless corporations in gaming these days. Their sales tactics are outright jewish and they constantly silence criticism on youtube. The only thing special about them is the treatment they get from their braindead fanbase.

>>384177013
>If the standard rule is "never trust", then a company has no reason to earn or maintain your trust. That's bad for consumers.

This, TB needs to stop this quasi-intelligent "MUH WISDOM" bs

>>384175334
By "Special" you mean One sided?

>>384177013
He's not saying that companies should never try to earn your trust, or that you shouldn't put trust in companies that consistently deliver on their promises. He's saying that going online and fighting to defend a company when they've fucked up is stupid.

If a company promises to never add microtransactions to a game, and then later does so, you've every right to be angry at them and to complain. Despite that, there are still plenty of people that will jump at the chance to defend the developer/publisher just because they've enjoyed their games in the past. They're not your friend, and the second they stop acting trustworthy or reputable is the moment you should stop viewing them as such.

There are still plenty of people that defend Bioware because they made games like Jade Empire and NWN, despite the fact that every person that worked on those games has since left the company. All TB is saying is that you can't let companies get away with shit just because you've got some kind of weird infatuation with them.

>>384177013
>has no reason to earn or maintain your trust.
Good, they should be shifting products or their service because they offer the best products or services, not because they can "buddy up" with people and use them to shovel shit onto.

>>384172783
yes
this is mainly a consolecuck thing but there are also people like this on pc
people who defend any company unconditionally needs to be euthanized, they are literally the best goiyms and are too retarded to realize

>>384173324
The only companies that I'm friends with the owners are bars.

>>384172783
He runs a business where his main revenue stream has been "ironic we don't know what we're talking about so random and funny!" podcasts for a year now.
Before attempting to be an idealog he should probably lead by example first.

>>384173179
Dont be a shill unless a company pays to to praise their game.

>>384172783
Yes, sadly fanboys are indoctrinated as unloved children that get more parenting from a console before they can figure this out.

>>384172783
Not at all. And the icon reminds me of the Wal-Mart icon logo.

>>384175972
What if I'm close friends with every single employee in the company.

>>384178359
Then it's all of the employees of the company that you're friends with
Corporations are people, remember, and they don't make friends

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>>384175254
Isn't Blizzard TB's company waifu?
He keeps defending Overwatch when as a shooter veteran he should know better.

>>384178447
Company and corporation are two very different things.

>>384178640
True, but a company's stance and the stance of its employees can often differ very wildly

>>384172783
I can't take him or people that agree with him seriously.

>See game in early access that looks good
>Play 100s of hours of early access game, enjoy it all

According to them I've been ripped off somehow, and they will just point at an objectively bad game and pretend that early access was the reason it sucked instead of providing actual reasons.

>>384173179
companies want free marketing, goodwill from influencers, brand sirens, whatever you want to call it.

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>there are actually people on this board who are brand loyalists and think for one second their company won't sell them down the river to make a quick buck.

>>384172783
yes, hands down

>>384174271
>consumers are entitled! being entitled is bad goys... btw dont pirate our products we deserve your money.

the only group in this equation that routeinly shows an unearned sense of entitlement are the corporate cocksuckers who lied too much that they 'have' to make profit that they started to believe it themselves.

>>384174731
Uhh you don't get to bring friends

>>384179425
You forgot the part where he then pays thousands of dollars and hours playing mobile scamboxes designed specifically do scam.

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>Fedora tippers and Facebook Commiecucks

>>384179934
ArcSys fanboys
Blizzard fanboys
Squeenix fanboys
Waifufag game company fanboys

I think the worst of the bunch are Squeenixfags.They beg people to buy shitty Dragon Quest spinoffs because they think SE is holding the franchise's ports hostage.

>>384174224
Anon *he* does not hold power here, you're free to speak.

>>384176713
Funcom?

>>384180406
I had Blizzards dick like so far up my ass from between 1997 - 2004 man. Diablo 1 and 2, Warcraft 2, and 3, Lost Vikings, Starcraft, so many good times man.

Then World of Warcraft came out and it was fucking garbage and I was salty as hell from paying $100 for a game I dropped in 2 weeks. I didn't have a credit card at that time and I was still a teenager so $60 for a (((preordered))) boxed copy of the WoW game and then a $30 card for 2 months + tip.

Then they really didn't do shit for awhile. I got into the Starcraft 2 beta but I guess I'm just not feeling RTS anymore. Thought about trying Diablo 3 but people say its much worse than 2.

Anybody know this feel?

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>>384175539
Nintendo is the only company that can STILL manage to disappoint me despite having zero expectation from them. The Metroid Prime 4 "reveal" isn't enough to make up for the efficiency and speed in which they've destroyed my most beloved franchises.

I don't even hate them any more, they've numbed me.

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>>384177548
This

>>384180850
There's plenty of times where it's happened. I was thinking of Warframe.

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yes

except nintendo, they're bros

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>>384179934
Just look at all the nintendofags when amiibos came out and started pandering to children more or the sonyfags when the ps4 neo came out. Microsoft has been fucking over their own original ideas for years now so they aren't even relevant.

The good thing is you have people from all sides who realized this, and dropped that fanboy shit. Sure, you'll still see people trying to defend the fucking Vita and "Why haven't you hacked your 3ds yet" threads, but overall there's no reason to pick sides anymore.

>>384181229
>have worse QA than bethesda
>each piece of "content" is soulless grind
>refuse to expand any concept beyond the concept stage
>crush criticism with an iron fist
>actively screw over certain members of the community during events just because they hate the game and STILL win

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>>384172783
Gave is our friend!

>Companies are not your friends!!!
>WAAAH DONT USE G2A THINK OF THE POOR COMPANIES

What did he mean by this

>>384172783
Say the guy that sucks Valve and Dota2's dick for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

>>384176713
Pure genius.

>>384181545
Shucks, even the children who use steam had the sense to actually boycott Valve and Bethesda when they tried paid mods. Let's just hope they continue that sentiment with the creation club.

>>384173179
>i have cancer in my ass please kill me
something like that

>>384181557
>Regularly fuck up so bad that they have to actually issue apologies for how badly they fucked up
>People still get excited for upcoming patches thinking that there's no way they'll fuck it up
I guess after you've been raped so many times you just start seeing it as the norm.

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>>384177548
Where did it all go wrong?
Was it when they decided to start re-selling their old games that are hard to find now?
Was it when they STILL can't manage to keep up the demand of their products, and let scalpers repeatedly fuck over the people that actually want something?

Maybe it was when smash 4 came out and the director straight up said: "Have you ever made a game" instead of taking the criticism. But for me it was when they managed to fuck up most of their IP's, and then claim you're wrong for not liking them because they strayed way too fucking far from the original ideas.

Star fox is gone, you can forget about F-zero is dead, Legend of Zelda did something interesting, but it turned out mediocre as fuck, Splatoon seems interesting until you realize trying to play any Nintendo game online is a fucking mistake, Fire Emblem is waifu shit, The mainline pokemon games are even worse than the mystery dungeon spinoffs, Nobody gives a fuck about pikmen, Smash 4 got butchered with that awful roster, then they decided to piss even more people off by re-selling old characters as DLC.

Fuck, what else am I missing?

>>384173179
That Early Access, Preordering and Kickstarting, any other of these bullshit scams, is really for people too stupid and emotionally manipulable to own money.

>>384182242
Don't forget paper mario and splitting a mainline FE game in thirds and selling them separately. Oh and amiibos.

>>384181545
I laughed my ass off when Nintendo revealed that $5 box for Splatoon 2 and had fanboys online defending it.

Is there any reason why he's spamming his twitter feed with dogs now?

>>384182242
I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, anon, but most of the things you said are only believed by a minority of people that browse /v/.

>F-zero is dead
No mainstream appeal, nobody knows what it is aside from Captain Falcon memes.

>Legend of Zelda did something interesting, but it turned out mediocre as fuck
Sold absurdly well for being on the least successful console in recent memory and a newly launched system. Also praised as one of the best games ever made, or at least the best Zelda.

>Splatoon seems interesting until you realize trying to play any Nintendo game online is a fucking mistake
Pretty much nobody is complaining about this, everyone loves Splatoon.

>Fire Emblem is waifu shit
With a dedicated fanbase that likes it that way.

>The mainline pokemon games are even worse than the mystery dungeon spinoffs
I don't hear many Pokemon fans say this, most loved the new games.

>Nobody gives a fuck about pikmen
Pikmin 3 sold decently for not being one of their big hitters, and people liked it.

>Smash 4 got butchered with that awful roster
Most would argue it's the best roster in any of the games, including DLC, which most people were fine with.

Like I said, I don't really disagree with a lot of what you said, but you're a minority of a minority with most of these opinions. Maybe you spend too much time here and don't understand how Nintendo's audience, the people they're aiming for, think.

>>384173179
You're a big guy

>>384174114
bean?

>>384180406
you're forgetting the two biggest bunch around, sonyfags and nintenbros

>>384182242
>Nobody gives a fuck about pikmen
It's Pikmin, and yes, people do.

>>384181371
He's really discussing the PC landscape of Early Access, Kickstarter, Pay to win etc.
Nintendo have platforms to support.

>>384183202
I honestly can't even decide which of the 2 is worse.
Nintendofags dicksuck all the awful things Nintendo does, but Sonyfags dicksuck Sony so hard that they're arrogant about how much cum they can get in their mouths.

>>384182242
>Legend of Zelda did something interesting, but it turned out mediocre as fuck
Fucking lol, keep the salt off /v/ NeoGAF

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>>384182827
>Maybe you spend too much time here and don't understand Nintendo's audience.

No, I don't think that's quite the case.
I'm more of a /vr/fag, if anything. My main gripe is that they are selling out all their old fans and focusing on amiibos and shit instead. Yes, I was pretty assblasted that nintendo refused to put snes games on the 3ds, but even then, emulators exist.
And yes, it does seem like I'm just parroting shit. I've played everything I brought up, which is why I gave my opinions on it.
Then again, /v/ isn't one person.

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>>384181127
I feel the same way about Nintendo but I'm still kinda enjoying my Switch. I won't be buying $60 Splatoon DLC but I was completely wrong about Arms and I'm having a ton of fun on it.

I'm stoked for Xenoblade 2 and Odyssey even though I don't really like Mario games. I still go into every Nintendo Direct and E3 with absolutely no expectations and still manage to get disappointed but this E3 was a little bit different.

I still don't expect much but at least it's not Wii/Wii U tier bad.

>>384183439
>all the awful things Nintendo does
Yeah, like...

>>384183572
>are selling out all their old fans
Such a non-statement.
>focusing on amiibos
The completely optional accessory? Oh no. Not those.

>>384183514
It's not even a zelda game at that point.
It's skyrim: lite, if anything.
I'll just ignore the fact that it got delayed for years and how it looks like a ps2 game.
Maybe it's just because I played it on WiiU, but god damn.

>>384183958
Nice memes

A company is a company, but some companies produce IPs I care about deeply and other companies produce things I either despise or don't care about. Those companies which hold my favorite IPs are therefore my favorite, I expect a lot from them.

Find a flaw in this reasoning.

>>384181371
He's not wrong. Companies should be called out for the shit they do but also give them credit where credit is due. Case and point your pic. Nintendo provided a livestream service that catered to their consumers. Very consumer friendly.

>>384183580
>I won't be buying $60 Splatoon DLC
>a sequel is now DLC
God, I hate how stupid /v/ is

>>384183202
yeah, but so much of it feels like joking now. I've never seen a Sonybro beg someone to buy a Vita like Squeenix fanboys did Dragon Quest Heroes

>>384183572
I understand where you're coming from, but Nintendo's position is reasonable and they've no reason to appeal to you. It would be silly to abandon the loyal fanbases they've cultivated in the past 10 or so years in an attempt to appeal to much older fans. They've found a large and profitable group to appeal to, so risking that to appeal to an undoubtedly smaller base would be stupid.

I'm an old fan of Nintendo, so I can appreciate the sentiment, but at the same time you're basically asking a gigantic corporation to forgo success for the sake of morals, which isn't realistic. I think the idea that Nintendo has fallen from grace or gone bad or something is just ridiculous, they're very successful right now, and the Switch is doing well despite having exactly two games worth buying. Nintendo didn't "go wrong" like you originally said, they just don't appeal to you any more because there's not enough of you.

B-but nintendo wouldn't lie, would they? They told me they want to make me smile and be happy.

>>384183958
>It's skyrim: lite, if anything.
You got that backwards, westcuck.

>>384183818
>defending physical DLC
You have to be 18 to post here.
>>384183439
Sonyfags and nintendofags are both pretty bad.
Sonyfags wouldn't shut the fuck up about bloodborne, and nintendofags seem like the only group that get extremely assblasted about piracy.

>Bain makes point about the PC environment
>shitposters spend 100s of posts about Nintendo
/v/ in a nutshell

>>384184247
>Y-you have to be 18 to have reasonable arguments
Ok little shitposter, you tried.

>>384181682
that last photo is photoshopped right?

>>384184117
I bet you buy the yearly COD games.

>>384184380
>I BET YOU BUY CALL OF DUTY! HA THAT SHOWED HIM!
You bet wrongly

>>384173162
Fuck you.

I'm not about to miss out on low print Japan only games because this stupid fuck can't handle how other people spent their money.

>>384184195
You're right about that.
But what I'm still confused about is how they still manage to create this artificial scarcity of their main hardware and still manage to fucking get away with it.
It's been happening for 20 years now.

>>384182242
That's not why Sakurai said it. He said it because someone asked if he could fix the game if he beat Sakurai in a match.

>make mediocre point
>/v/ threads spammed about it
doesn't matter if it's a brand, company, franchise, or genre faggots on /v/ are going to shill that shit

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Imagine being so utterly and singularly devoted to a brand that you cry when the head of the company dies.
Imagine being so obsessed with a company that you feel the need to send flowers to the funeral of a dead corporate suit that you never met and never will
Not even the most ardent Microsoft or Sony drones even remotely come close to this level of autistic loyalty.
Nintendo fans are a special kind of pathetic

>>384184519
>they still manage to create this artificial scarcity of their main hardware
This is a meme not backed by any evidence and called out as such by every analyst.

>>384184117
Considering how little content they've shown, it's nothing but glorified DLC. For a game to justify 60 dollars, it HAS to have a fantastic singleplayer. I'm talking several thousand hours without ever touching the online.

>>384178635
He's bronze ranked in OW. Someone that bad wouldn't know any better.

>>384184362
Go ahead, keep defending disc locked content like it's a good thing.
I'll wait.
Guess I'll take the time to remind you that it's becoming more and more present in their games, meaning you will never get the full game unless you have them, or know how to pirate them.
>>384184157
As much switch and ps4 shitposting as there is, I can't tell anymore either.

>>384184683
Imagine being so obsessed you make this post.

>>384172783
yeah, except it never applied to computer-games
you literally never owned the game
you owned the disc that contained the game, the game on the disc was merely a product you rented. Thats written in literally every ToA you have to accept since the 80s

>>384184731
>Considering how little content they've shown
>new campaign, modes, maps and everything one would normally associate with a sequel
>little content
>THE SINGLE PLAYER SHOULD HAVE HUNDREDS! NO MILLIONS OF HOURS OFFLINE!
Anon, stop being retarded

>>384174224
There's a difference between being a brand loyalist cuck and buying every iteration of a series with deteriorating quality, because other companies fail to fulfill it's niche

>>384173342
How does not treating a corporation like your friend and simply getting a product if it serves your uses also mean you're some faggot who enjoys cuck porn. Fuck off /tv/

>>384184912
>Guess I'll take the time to remind you that it's becoming more and more present in their games
Yeah, like in ARMS, oh wait no. Oh yeah Xenoblade X? Oh wait no. Pikmin 3? Oh yeah no. Project Zero V? Oh no that didn't happen. Super Mario 3D World? No, that didn't use them. Oh shit. Your weak and stupid argument doesn't seem to hold water. Better call someone underage because you don't have an argument

>>384184683
I dont get why people cry over celebs in general. Like yeah I can understand being a little shooketh, but damn full blown sobbing over some celeb who doesn't even know you exist is weird as shit.

>>384174517
>>384174589
Do me a favor and kill yourself
Add a political angle to it and talk about it on /pol/

>>384185246
Iwata wasn't a celeb, he was a game deigner/developer/producer.

>>384185131
This is the result of cuck not being filtered when Moot left. Just like with every other shitty thing about this site. Everyone takes jokes so far the real faggots think that they're welcome.

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>>384184714
If you've been alive long enough to realize that it's happened with every major release, you'd understand.

For some reason Sony and Microsoft never seem to have that issue either.
I WONDER WHY

>>384185472
>my FEELINGS matter more than FACTS
Yep, I expected this

>>384185389
I'm talking generally, and iwata also applies because he was a celebrity on top of being a developer.

>>384184952
>new campaign
You mean a glorified tutorial just like the first game?

>dude these brainless bots shoot at you a few times, GOTY XDXD!

What chump would willingly pay for that? The rest will be the same quality as the DLC they put out over the past few years, aka absolutely horrible.

>>384185472
No, it only ever happened with the Wii and the Switch. It's funny how these "artificial scarcities" only ever happen when their latest release followed one that didn't perform too well.

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>>384185193
Notice how you're ignoring like twenty other games that have that feature.
You can stop now, I'm getting bored.

>>384185606
You haven't actually made a single point in this post, it's just shitflinging

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>it's an Americans attempting to argue economics episode

You Americans have to be the most pathetic people in existence at this point.

You are trying so hard to argue for the defense of unsustainable and exploitative corporate policies, yet with every word that leaves your mouth you prove how utterly uneducated and unknowledgable you are. This is so pathetic and embarassing.

No wonder your people is the laughing stock of the entire planet at this point.

>>384185785
>I DON'T KNOW HOW A COUNTERPOINT WORKS!
Thanks anon
>Y-you can stop now!
No anon, it hurts being called out but you need it

>>384185823
Tell me why my arguments don't count.

>>384186070
You need to HAVE an argument for it to count. Saying I don't like it so that makes it a tutorial and DLC is not an argument.

Absolutely

>>384184683
Iwata was a good programmer with a love for games. I can relate to that (apart from the being good part), so when I see a successful individual like that with an inspiring technical track record die, I naturally feel some resemblence of sadness. I do 100% agree that a lot of people went full retard with it though, up to the point of being plain disrespectful.

>>384185825
You people are*

Try once more shitfiend

>>384184731
>I'm talking several thousand hours without ever touching the online.
Yea...no, fuck off with that.

>>384186145
>Saying I don't like it so that makes it a tutorial and DLC is not an argument.
but that's objectively true. Every single single player mission in the game is just a glorified offline round against braindead bots and fodder enemies even weaker than a bot. It's like a Mario game where the enemies and level design don't get any more complicated after the first world, and you're going through world 1-1 for 8 worlds. There's not even any replayability.

>>384185472
>Get BTFO
>u-underage
Oh fuck off Neo/v/

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>>384185554
>he doesn't remember "Sega does what Nintendon't"

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>>384185246
you don't understand.
Nintendo has effectively raised these people. Its something that they can never tear themselves away from.
They are grown men that feel like they owe a faceless corporation their undying loyalty and will accept everything that they do until the day that they go bankrupt.
When they look at Iwata they don't see the face of a businessman they see the face of a friend

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>>384186406
Not an argument, corporate apologist.

>>384186461
>Every single single player mission in the game is just a glorified offline round
Post discarded

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>>384186467
>2 reposts and a meme response
>BTFO
I know you can try harder than that.

>>384186461
>It's like a Mario game where the enemies and level design don't get any more complicated after the first world
How to instantly out yourself as underageb& along with killing any argument you were trying to present. Well done faggot.

>>384186610
Go on, name me a single mission that isn't that. And I hope you're not going to post anything about the pathetically easy bosses. I solo'd DJ octavio with dual stick controls (because I hate gyro) and I didn't die even once. What kind of garbage game would pass that off as good game design?

>>384186512
I remember, that doesn't back the artificial scarcity meme with a hint of fact. Fuck of with your FEELS are more important than data based evidence

>>384186560
>Anon mentions celebs
>Goes back to crying about Nintendo
This obsession you have is unhealthy, kid.

>>384186760
>I-I hope you aren't going to post a boss
Oh son you knew you fucked up. That's ok kid, we all make mistakes.

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>>384178635
He is talking about Blizzard in this case. Pic related, it's what set him off.

>>384186707
>Y-you can try harder
>still hasn't backed his meme claim with an evidence

>>384186748
I'm not hearing arguments.

>>384186909
The bosses are nothing more than giant mooks. They have the exact same AI as all of them. "do predictable attack, expose yourself, repeat until dead".

Go on, show me a boss that doesn't do this.

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>>384186760
Just face it Anon, Nintendo isn't really making challenging games anymore to appeal to their fanbase.
I was gonna say BotW was fairly challenging, but amiibos remove any of that challenge. The twilight princess remaster seemed alright in terms of difficulty, but nobody really likes twilight princess.
The only thing that comes to mind is Tropical Freeze
Tropical freeze was bullshit hard

>>384186969
this sounds like a really shitty dota compendium

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I sucked Blizzard's dick hard before they became Acti-Blizzard. Bought WC2, WC2 expansion, SC1, SC1:BW, SC Battlechest, WC2 battle.net edition, and I got mutiple copies of them for friends, too. I will forever carry the shame of knowing that I played a part in the success which drove them into the hands of Satan.

>>384187145
>I'm not hearing any arguments
Neither am I.

>>384187145
>the game is nothing but offline rounds! except when it isn't! And those don't COUNT! PLEASE DON'T RIP MY ARGUMENT APART!
Ok anon

>>384187150
>Just face it Anon, Nintendo isn't really appealing to their REAL fanbase
>amiibos remove any of that challenge
>Tropical freeze was bullshit hard
Ok anon, you win, this is the WORST post ITT

>>384172783
>companies are not your friends, don't treat them like they are
>rabidly defends blizzard and begs for a scratch behind his anal cancer cells

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>>384187203
Whoops, can't forget about WC3, the expansion, diablo 1, diablo 1 expan, diablo 2 collectors edition, diablo 2 expan. Bought those, too.

>>384187257
>>384187224
Show me a single mission that actually has the balls to challenge the player. Because when you face off against predictable enemies with piss easy AI, that just tells me you made a bad game. But please, do go on and imply that a 60 dollar game shouldn't have a good singleplayer.

Corporate apologists everyone.

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>>384186070
You can't argue with nintendofag logic
Just like this faggot >>384185939

Instead of actually keeping the argument on track, they decide to derail it with completely unrelated shit, then make it seem like they won.
This happens every fucking time. Just looking back in this thread there's only one fucking argument where the other guy admitted he was wrong.

>>384184195
>>384184519

And then you have retards like these >>384184247
>>384184362

>>384187706
Even if I provided a mission that provides challenge it would not prove it is not a tutorial, as nothing says a tutorial can't be challenging. You have fucked up with your shitposting and now want to change the actual argument.
>THESE ARE OFFLINE ROUNDS
>EXCEPT WHEN THEY ARE NOT
>AND DEFINITELY NOT THOSE
>PLEASE DON'T MENTION THAT
>O-OH BUT IT'S NOT HARD
Fuck off

>>384187428
Bringing up opinions makes me the bad guy?
Christ, this place really is nintendogaf.

>>384187736
>doesn't know how to argue
>Instead of actually keeping the argument on track, they decide to derail it with completely unrelated shit
>counterexamples are not in keeping with arguments
Anon you've been in your safe little bubble for too long, it's time you branched out and learned a few things before posting on /v/

>>384182013

Ill bet that sounded really cool in your head anon

>>384185429
Cuck WAS filtered for a bit after moot left.
Fully uppercase KEK is still filtered.

>>384188023
>Shitposting makes me the bad guy
Yeah in fact it's against the rules

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>>384187428
Imagine getting this asshurt about a company.
How much do they pay you, Anon?
Are they hiring?

>>384188337
>Tropical Freeze was too hard for you
Jesus Christ, imagine being alive during NES/SNES. You'd hate it

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I like how I made one post that was mostly praising the Switch but call Splatoon $60 DLC (because that's what it is) and Nintendofags get super assblasted.

>>384183580
Why don't you like mario? They are the pinnacle of nintendo's games...

>>384188503
>because that's what it is

>>384173179
He's mad that less and less game companies are sending him free steam keys to have him make a video on their games.

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>>384188079
I literally took the time to prove how these threads are full of shitposting. I'm not even trying to argue, just proving a point.
Which you helped me with, by the way. Am I supposed to apologize that you're getting offended by something that happened not even 40 minutes ago?
>>384188307
Doesn't stop the third world console war shitposting.

>>384188337
Your other points are valid but Dong Freeze was like 1/3 of the reason to own a Wii U.

>>384187926
>as nothing says a tutorial can't be challenging
The entire point of a tutorial is to be so piss easy that any braindead bumpkin can beat it. It appears in bad games where they can't explain the mechanics properly so they have to shut you behind a door with a dialogue box and tell you what to do.

>games can't be hard, that's too videogamey and we can't have that when I'm trying to masturbate to the inklings
This is essentially what you're saying.

>>384172783
Yes he is.

>>384172783
He's right but that doesn't mean I have to be okay with their shitty practices.

>>384188789
>This is essentially what you're saying.
That's really not what I'm saying. I'm saying Splatoon 2 is a sequel because it is and nobody has made any argument that it isn't. This little bitch >>384188503 made this post and fucked off.

>>384188748
>I'm not even trying to argue, just proving a point.
You proved nothing. Calm down kid

>>384188956
>I'm saying Splatoon 2 is a sequel because it is
Sequels and glorified DLC are the exact same thing. They're an excuse to charge you more for a product that should be free DLC for the original. I'm probably the only one ITT who thinks this, but I don't care. I'm sick of companies charging me top dollar for multiplayer games that they drop almost immediately.

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>>384188503
Most modern games are shit.
Something nintendofriends refuse to acknowledge.
>>384188409
>>384188748
Why do you keep responding to bait?
Even I stopped a while ago.

>>384189138
>Sequels and glorified DLC are the exact same thing
>I'm probably the only one ITT who thinks this
You are.

>>384186560
That's aggressively scary. Why don't they get mental help?

>>384189183
>Most western modern games are shit.
Fixed, Nintendofriends openly acknowledge this.

>>384172783
Absolutely. I despise the sycophantic way are to developers and publishers nowadays.

>>384189238
Then sadly I'm the only one ITT who's right, and isn't on a corporate payroll.

>>384173396
Preload.
Preordering is fine.

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>>384189091
Damage control already?
Damn, that was fast.
>>384188956
Why are people even excited for splatoon 2?
Weren't a lot of people complaining that the online was laggy as fuck?

>>384189365
*people are towards

>>384189369
Sadly those two things are not logically equal, you are the only one who thinks that and you are wrong.

>>384189432
>Why are people even excited for splatoon 2?
Some people like fun games son, as you grow up hopefully you'll like games you like too.

>>384189364
Most jap games are like this too. Infact, I dare you to find even one jap game that came out this year that's genuinely good. That means the following:

>it has to be decently challenging (no games with a 90+ metacritic. Normies hate challenging, so anything they like is garbage
>no sex fanservice (you just use that to hide bad gameplay, so I don't allow it period)
>no online multiplayer
>good singleplayer
>doesn't cost over 20 dollars
>no political pandering (no strong independent feminist womyn who talk every 5 seconds, no crossdressing, not even as a joke, and etc)
>no DLC at all, except if it's free

Go on, find one.

>>384189432
>Weren't a lot of people complaining that the online was laggy as fuck?
>a lot
Hah no. Not to mention the test fires and Splatfests were smooth as fuck.

>>384173179
He's not talking about preodering or early access but how people talk about videogame developers/publishers like we're all one big family rather than just people merely selling products.

>>384189582
Fortunately you don't get to set the standard of what 'genuinely good' means. Breath of the Wild, Persona 5, NieR Automata and more.

>>384189461
>you are wrong
0.05 MyNintendo points have been deposited into your account.

>>384172783
only people that disagree are sad autists

>>384172783
says a guy who constantly shills for whatever products his sponsors are making

tb always says things people want to hear for attention

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>>384189689
>Fortunately you don't get to set the standard of what 'genuinely good' means
>proceeds to list 3 cinematic movie games

>>384189742
Unfortunately most of Steam is filled with sad autists

>>384172783

I don;t think companies fostering good will with consumers is a bad thing but its definitely not a relationship that should be taken as personal/friendly.

Brand loyalty to the point that it becomes part of your identity is just unintelligent and childish

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>>384189785
>Breath of the Wild
>cinematic movie game

>>384189689
Don't argue with ACfag. Unless it's 2d minecraft it's bad to him.

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>>384189574
Maybe you're right.
Just imagine if people had other hobbies that weren't videogames.
>>384189582
You won't find that at all.
Also, what's wrong with fan service?
>>384189631
Well shit, that's good. Because that was a massive issue in splatoon 1.
I always got matched up with people in Japan and had to deal with 400 ping assholes.

>>384181371
They sure are with all their cease and desists and youtube videos takedowns

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>>384189916
>runs at 30 FPS
>2 hours of cutscenes
>empty overworld to disguise lack of gameplay
>discussion is nothing but porn dumps of various gerudo, mipha, Zelda or trap crossdressing link, gameplay discussion does not exist

Ci-ne-ma-tic.

>>384189785
the only movie game on that list is persona 5

>>384190067
>imagine if people had other hobbies that weren't videogames
You should try it some time

>>384190157
>2 hours of cutscenes
>empty overworld to disguise lack of gameplay
Wrong, post discarded.

>>384190170
See >>384189920

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>>384190286
Technically it's closer to 1 hour and 47 minutes, but the excessive dialogue from retarded NPCs carry it over into 2+ hours. See pic related.

How is it ACfag isn't just permabanned? Does he do anything other than shitpost?

>>384190484
I wouldn't be surprised if he had a dynamic IP or something.

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>>384184762
>implying rank has anything to do with skill in Overwatch

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>>384190180
As fun as this is, I'm not autistic enough to keep up this argument.
You win.
I've only been here for like 20 minutes, but just looking back at the thread you just go based on anyone that replies to you, huh?

Fucking phoneposters I swear to god.

>>384173179
He is saying that people need to stop whining about games and talk with their wallets

>>384190619
Can't mods ban his images and copypasta? They can serve out copyright strikes out for Sony but can't stop one retard?

>>384172783
Yeah, except nintendo

>>384190771
>>384190484
for someone to be banned, it requires them to break a rule. And unlike, oh say, Barneyfag who samefags his posts screaming in caps lock every other thread, you can't ban ACfag without just cause.

>>384190706
>Fucking phoneposters I swear to God.
There's no winning with them.
Especially in threads like these.

>>384190706
>I'm not autistic enough
Don't sell yourself so short. You're plenty autistic.

>>384173897
They also make games that people play for hours and hours, don't act like Skyrim is unplayable for 90% of people

If you're on this message board you have to realize that you care much more about minor shit than most people who buy games

>>384177548
>Their sales tactics are outright jewish
Such as? Nintendo was one of the last major companies to fall for the DLC meme, and even then the DLC they had were amazing for their prices. The MK8 DLC to other DLC at the same prices.

>>384190916
>you can't ban ACfag without just cause.
Bullshit,
>Consolewar, shitposting and low quality posts
Fucking done.

Do you think there are people who get paid to screencap Twitter threads and flood as many forums as they possibly can with them?

>>384172783
Well, duh.

Thanks for the enlightening news. Is everybody who follows these """"ecelebs"""" this daft?

>>384190916
I'd say he's breaking global 6 and 10 at this point as well as 2 and 4 of /v/.

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>nintendofanboys ruin another thread
Good job, niggers.

>>384191115
Can you point to those posts that he's made in this thread?

>>384173179
Companies don't love you, stop swearing your eternal loyalty to them. No preorders, no defending shitty fucking companies like Nintendo who go out of their way to spit on their fans.

>>384191238
>ruin a twitter/e-celeb thread
And nothing of value was lost

>>384191238
>nintendofanboys
Neo-/v/ anon. Completely different group.
And this thread was shit to begin with.

>>384191226
I don't see how those are being violated.

>>384191331
>Nintendo who go out of their way to spit on their fans
Thanks for reminding me I'm on NeoGA/v/

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>>384189582
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
ACfag

>>384191863
>every single ACfag post in your image has reddit spacing
>not a single bit of reddit spacing in this thread

How can that be ACfag?

>>384191978
Name a single person on 4chan besides ACfag who uses the term "sex fanservice" unironically.

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>>384172783
>It wasn't Biowares fault Jade Empire had all those flaws it was Microsoft I will keep buying the products to support them because I care about them
>It wasn't Biowares fault Mass Effect had all it's issues, flaws and just lazy development, that was all Microsoft, Bioware is good and I will keep buying products to support them.
>It wasn't Biowares fault Mass Effect 2 and 3 were bad, that was EA fault and I will keep buying Bioware products


Yes, yes he so god damn is.

>>384191863
Honestly ACfag ruins the most threads than any other shitposter, it's embarrasing how badly janitors/mods do their job to stop him

>>384172783
All e-celebs are cancer. Quarantine board when?

>>384192295
You realise the anon you're replying to is ACFag right?

>>384192295
>>384192417
>>384192449
>one guy expresses his opinions about the industry
>everyone REEE's angrily despite no rules being broken

Who truly are the shitposters here?

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>>384192816

>>384173179

he will crush a company with no survivors

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>>384193336
>the truth isn't popular, so you should never talk about it, you need to get in line and be a good corporate slave

Dang, guess I can't hate the Ps4 anymore. 60 million sales must make it #4theplayers. And popularity is never wrong.

>>384172783
100%

>>384193581
>the truth
And yet you can never get anyone to see your point of view. Clearly you're not spouting any "truths" or anything of worth for that matter.

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>>384193581
What is the definition of insanity again?

>>384193816
>And yet you can never get anyone to see your point of view
Because we've been infiltrated by shills? I thought this was public information.

...or are you a marketer yourself?

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>>384191863
>fun cannot exist without challenge
Holy shit how can one man be this wrong?

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>>384193581
>>384193989

>>384193989
>Because we've been infiltrated by shills?
Everyone you disagree with is a shill?
Can we add this one to the collage?

>>384194218
>>384194125
when you literally have posts like this >>384181371 which actively defend every single decision from a multinational corporation, then yes, they're shills.

>>384194365
>can't detect an obvious joke post
Literal
A U T I S M
U T I S M
T I S M
I S M
S M
M

>>384194365
The problem is that absolutely no one shares your line of thinking regardless of their "shilling".

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>>384194365

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>>384194723
>>384194689
>>384194567
>literally defending shill posts for no pay

I mean, here you guys are complaining about posts breaking rules, and yet you're breaking one of the biggest rules: no advertising.

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>>384194936
Do you even fucking know what sarcasm is, you drooling retard?

>>384194936
Advertising what?

>>384195085
Sarcasm is the literary equivalent of saying "I was only pretending to be retarded". In an online discussion where you can't put inflictions on words as easily as you can vocally, sarcasm doesn't have a place.

>>384195127
I'd wager a guess at Nintendo in general. I mean, saying "Nintendo are bros and aren't evil corporate suits vying for maximum profit" seems like something you'd see on their website.

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>>384195127
If you mention anything at all in any way, it's advertising.
Just like ACfag advertises his literally who mech games and western indiecucks, like when he posts pic related.

>>384172783
Bain?

>>384195348
>In an online discussion where you can't put inflictions on words as easily as you can vocally, sarcasm doesn't have a place.
Sarcasm can be detected via context. You just need to not be a low-functioning autistic to understand.

>>384195648
>Sarcasm can be detected via context.
Of which none was provided.

>>384195384
ACfag doesn't exist.

EA game me a free copy of Battlefield 4 for making a video about it on Youtube. My friends haven't ever given me shit.

EA is my best friend, and Battlefield 4 gets a 10/10.

Pick better friends. Valve Corporation is the only company I call friend. The day they go public is the day they die to me.

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>>384195384
>that autism

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Doesn't he have a Patreon?

>>384195994
But there was. You just couldn't see it because of your autism.

>>384196387
>>384196582
>muh autism

I swear this buzzword is used more than any other.

>>384195994
Months and months of /v/ shitting on Nintendo Treehouse not enough context for you?

>>384196781
Usually it's a buzzword but in cases such as ACfag (You) it's most certainly the real thing.

>>384196781
well if you smell shit everywhere you go

>>384197119
>>384197156
>Months and months of /v/ shitting on Nintendo Treehouse not enough context for you?
I remember the months of people being called pedophiles for not liking the localization efforts of Xenoblade and SMT. any thread made about criticizing them was deleted on sight.

>Usually it's a buzzword but in cases such as ACfag (You) it's most certainly the real thing.
So calling out shills is now tantamount to autism even though we have proof that shills frequent this board.

>>384196407
>hey animators and short film makers if youtube is screwing try Patreon!
>all the lazy vloggers and untalented porn artists that don't finish anything of worth flood the site
>all the animators and film makers end up doing shit for mainstream media because of it

Patreon had so much promise, I'm still mad

>>384197389
>I remember the months of people being called pedophiles for not liking the localization efforts of Xenoblade and SMT
You mean something that never happened.

>>384198073
Not even 5 minutes into searching the archives.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/379942118/#379942118

Here, let me sum it up for you.

>dude big tits work at the treehouse! they're so epic! lol if you don't like it you're a perma virgin xD

Hey, who cares if they're shoddy at their job? someone can masturbate to their presentation people, so all is forgiven!

>>384172783
100%

>>384181545
>The good thing is you have people from all sides who realized this, and dropped that fanboy shit.
>tfw I get called a Son-ygger here for criticizing Nintendo despite being a lifelong Nintendo fan