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Review embargo lifts tommorow, predict the Metacritic score.

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Review embargo lifts tommorow, predict the Metacritic score.
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85

Review are going to say
Pro: fun single player mode
Cons: gyro sucks
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87
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Solid 83

I love the game, but even with a black octopus main character it isn't progressive or cinematic enough for reviewers.
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>>384169214
Same score or slightly higher
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mosaic when
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I'm pretty sure it lifts on Tuesday. I think gameexplain mentioned it in one of their preview videos.

Anyone I'm expecting 85.
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94
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>>384169214
1 point higher than the original just because it's portable.
sequel will have same complaints as the first: price tag too high for the little content it offers at launch, stick controls are inferior to gyro controls, and netcode is wonky if a japanese guy is the host and you live in america thanks to peer to peer.
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>>384169362
>Cons: gyro sucks
What the fuck are you talking about? Critics praised the gyro when the first game came out, why would they hate on it now when there's a lot more ways to tweak the ways you play when it comes to using gyro in handheld or tabletop/TV mode. Not to mention that gyro feels a lot more intuitive in this iteration when compared to the first thanks to split Joycons.
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>>384169362

Gyro is literally one of the best things about splatoon, it works so well.
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>>384169492
>81
That was before the game became a huge success. It's going to get better scores simply because it's a known Nintendo brand now.
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>>384169886
Yes, Nintendo wasn't paying for reviews back then either
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>>384169886

This. Fully expect 85-89
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I really do think it will break into 90 territory.
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>>384169886
splatoon 1 was very barebones at launch too
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>>384169214
87. Wouldn't surprise me if critics say the single player isn't 50 hours long so they'll give it less points even if it's an online game. Critics hate fun.
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Wait, how do you review a game like this if you can't play most of it since the servers are offline?

Are they just reviewing the single player?

Also to answer the Op, probably 84. A better version of the original.
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High 80s low 90s
Depends how good/bad the single player is.
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>>384170606

m8
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>>384169214
65
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>>384170692
What? Are the severs online and the reviewers are playing tower control and Rainfish and shit?
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>>384169214
88
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>>384170606
Why do you think they wouldn't open the servers for reviewers to play? It would be pretty stupid to send reviewers a copy of the game to review and not let them play the main part of the game.
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>>384170606
>what are review copies
>what are private servers
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It'll be slightly better than Splatoon 1's score. Most of the average cons will be about the barebones singleplayer.
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79 and that's generous
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83.
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The last two digits of my post.
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>>384171051
I don't see how the score would be worse than the original considering it's basically an upgrade across the board
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>>384171101
:(
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>>384171101
kek
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>>384170606
do you really think they would give reviewers copies of the game and take down the servers?
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>>384171101
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>>384171101
fuckin savage
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>>384170606
The servers are online, there's just a whitelist of just reviewers

There were definitely a bunch of people during Splatfest who had leveled up a bunch, despite that not being possible during Splatfest.
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>>384171002

Didn't most of the previews say that the single player is much better in 2 than it was in 1?
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85 or so.
The game is pretty much Splatoon with more stuff. The main complaint with the original was lack of content, and Splatoon 2 launches with a lot more stuff than Splatoon 1.
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>>384171295
Everyone besides Andre Segers from Gamexplain. But Derricks the one reviewing the game anyway and he loved it.
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89
Would've been a 90 but Pearl happened.
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>>384169214
98
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The game is now a brand name in Nintendo so expect +10 over whatever real punctuation it should have
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85
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>>384169214
It's a Shitendo game and those get a free pass no matter what so 98.
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>>384171736
You know, ignoring the plethora of Wii U games that reviewed poorly.

But I guess Nintendo forgot to pay for those right?
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Slightly lower than Splatoon 1 because it's "too samey"
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about 85-87
>pros: it's like splatoon but better
>cons: it's exactly like splatoon but better, also no minimap or button remapping
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>>384171436
>Everyone besides Andre Segers from Gamexplain.
Watching their discussion now and apart from his main criticism that it's not different enough from the first game, he said he just hated every time he was forced to use a charger, so it sounds like he's just a bit retarded and needs to git gud.
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>>384171903

With what money? The console sold like shit
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>>384171927
the only thing that has been samey to me is that octo bitch trying to ride on the coattails of marie
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>>384171436
Andre is a neanderthal with shit taste, and they both don't know ass about the game. Their Splatoon 2 discussions were all garbage
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>>384172390
Why does everyone seem to forget the 3DS was the best selling console of that generation?
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>>384169214
92

>>384169492
What a joke game """critics""" are. Splatoon is one of the best games of this decade.
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>>384172523
I stopped caring about review scores when New Vegas was rated lower than Fallout 3.
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>>384172507

PS4 will eventually dethrone it by next year, the 3DS stopped selling good last year
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kids and squids/100
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80+
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>>384172523
>What a joke game """critics""" are. Splatoon is one of the best games of this decade.
Or maybe opinions just differ. I think Splatoon appeal to a very specific type of person. It's not the catch-all that Mario Kart is. Personally I don't find it enjoyable at all, and I've tried. I've tried hard to like it and I just can't
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>>384172523
>>384172684
Game critics have always been worthless in determining a game's actual quality, it's the opinions of one guy. All they can really vouch for are controls.
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Around 80
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If shit like BotW and Persona 5 can break 90 easily, this can too.
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>>384169214
original score 81
sequel retread -4
black MC +1
improvements to SP +3
portability +1
dubious control scheme -1

Final Score: same as before
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>>384170163
This. Splatoon was barely worth a purchase when it came out unless you really REALLY liked the idea. Then they added huge amounts of content over a pretty good amount of time, and it ended up being really good.
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>>384173295
it was really good from the start
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>>384173226
This, it'll probably end up being better than both those games but of course it's a multiplayer game so it'll struggle to get high enough scores
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I'm expecting about an 85. I think the original Splatoon should have been about an 88, but I don't blame the reviewers for giving it a lower average. The game had no content on release. I would have personally scored it lower, at the time. That said, Splatoon 2 has a lot more on release, and looks to be worthy of at least an 88, but I doubt it will get it. And who is willing to bet that reviewers won't even take into account the huge amount of content Splatoon got in updates and the 2 is sure to get?
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>>384169214
last two digits screencap this faggots
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>>384172727
Last year's 3DS sales were higher than the year before. PS4 will probably overtake it at some point, but it's still selling respectable numbers.
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>>384173273
How many games does it take for the "sequel retread" qualifier to be negated or turned into a positive?
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>>384173395
5 maps and 1 mode on launch day lmao
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>>384169879
I personally hate it, specifically because it's only used for the vertical axis and disables it for the right stick which you're forced to use to turn. If gyro aim was used for fine adjustments on both axis without disabling either axis on the right stick it would be a lot more useful.

After using the joycons for each splatfest I plan on buying a pro controller before picking up the game. I think the only people who prefer gyro are people who got used to it from the first game.
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>>384173395
It was fun, because it was such a fresh experience, but it had no content. Without the updates, the game would've been dead in less than a month
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>>384173779
From some of the videos I saw they compared the Wii U to the Switch and it was exactly the same. Not just the graphics but everything, the gameplay to characters and their positions were the same.

This isn't one of those "durr it looks and plays similarly and I'm too much of a moron to notice the completely overhauled mechanics" things that affect sequel reviews. DOES Splatoon 2 have completely overhauled mechanics that are different and arguably better than its predecessor? I wouldn't know.

I think DKC2 and the sequel of SimTower are great sequels but got knocked down because of their surface similarities to the original
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>>384174609
Gyroscope is used for all axis. The stick camera movement only exists to make up for the gyroscope's main flaw: making broad movements and turning around.
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>>384173273
I think it gets a pass for being a retread of the first one

Remember the first was on a dying console near the end of it's life cycle
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why do people seem to forget that they had to invest a lot of of time before they could handle a mouse well in shooters? its the same with gyro.
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>>384174839
Something must be up with my joycons then because I could only use the gyro to aim up and down. And I still don't see any good reason to disable aiming with the vertical axis on the stick.
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>>384173779
I think it's just how rehashed it looks. If you were just casually looking at screenshots of Splatoon 1 and 2, you couldn't tell the difference. Typically Nintendo sequels look wildly different than each other. Just look at the Zelda games. Only the NSMB games have had the rehashed look, and they take flack for it too
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>>384171294
Those were bots m8
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>>384175139
Because they didn't. It's immediately apparent that mouse is superior to every other pre existing method for aiming in shooters, even before optical mice were common place.
It's not the same at all, gyro simply exists to compensate for the limitations of stick aim.
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>>384174756
>>384175241
That's fair, it is hard to tell the differences to the untrained eye. That said, there are a lot of subtle improvements and new content. Plus, if the game is so fresh and unique that any big changes would be really unnecessary and unwanted, imo. And there are a shit ton of multiplayer shooters that look rehashy and don't get much flack
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>>384175170
Were you trying to tilt the ends of the controller up and down, or turn it like a steering wheel? I tried out both control methods yesterday, and was able to use gyro aiming on both axis.
The way I look at it is that Y aiming has a much smaller possible angle where you can move the camera, and you won't be looking up or down enough to actually want to keep your aim there. I thought the same thing when playing the demo for the first game, but I just got used to it.
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87
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>>384173039
>Or maybe opinions just differ.
Is it their job to consistently underrated good games and overrate mediocre ones? Because that's what they do all the fucking time. They're USELESS.
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>>384173608
you can't rate games based on promises by the creators of the game
that'd be stupid
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>>384171101
wtf i hate nintendo now
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85

It's fun and quirky
but it's nothing new
Single player is lacking
but it's Nintendo and there is fuck all else for the Switch which we all love because reviews are quick and easy.
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>>384171101
Actually the last 3.
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>>384175241
Did Smash 4 get flack for essentially being Brawl Deluxe? From critics I mean.
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>>384175763
Not the anon you were talking to, but I still agree with him. i played a fuck ton of the original Splatoon and I hated the gyro. BOTW gyro was incredibly intuitive, and I wish they would include the option for it in splat
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>82
>too much water - IGN
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>>384176365
I thought BOTW gyro was shit because you couldn't really use the sticks and motion in conjunction with one another. Touching the stick would just turn off gyro until you stopped using the stick.
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>>384175763
I was tilting it like a table, similar to how you complete the motion control puzzle in BOTW. I swapped back and forth from both control methods during the splat fests yesterday and gyro aim only worked on the Y axis.
Aiming on the Y axis is extremely important in a game like splatoon when you're constantly adjusting the arc of your shots when trying to cover the ground and walls in paint, or trying to hit jumping enemies and enemies in the air.

Even if you disregard all that though, having then ability to aim on both axis with both gyro and stick simultaneously is superior to being limited with one axis on either.
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I think people will praise how fun it is, the single player and certainly having more content that the first game at launch, but they'll probably dock points for feeling a bit too samey compared to the first. 85-86-ish I'm guessing.
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>>384176089
You can easily take into account the amount of support that you can expect based on what devs have said and their track record. You don't have to give it an improved score, but you don't have to be as critical about a lack of content when you know you will get consistent, substantial updates
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>>384176464
I watch IGN podcasts from time to time yes i know, they're good background noise and apparently the reviewer for Splatoon 2 already likes the first game, so there's that
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86

Maybe 88 if lucky.
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>>384176706
I don't know if that was the case, but even so, I'd prefer that. Though, ideally, you could use both at once
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my last two digits, trust me
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>>384176464
>lol memes
oras deserved that score, and there is too much water, as stupid as that comment sounds on the surface level
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>>384177198
oh shit nigga
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I didn't even know they were making a Splatoon 2 until I saw this thread. Why was there no hype?
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>>384177198
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>>384177198
NEW GOAT, RIP BOTW!
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>>384177383
There's like 3 threads on /v/ per day for the last two weeks or so, how did you not notice?
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>>384177383
..........have you not been on /v/ for the past week everyone spent masturbating to Marina?
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>>384177383
Where are you looking that you see no hype
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>>384176875
>but you don't have to be as critical about a lack of content
It's totally fair to be critical about the lack of content at the time of review. Especially since you don't know you will get consistent, substantial updates before it actually happens. Critics shouldn't review games based on the assumption that missing content will get filled in later. Games should be reviewed in the state they're in, not what the devs said it will be in the future.
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>>384177198
Won't be that high, my digits are the real score
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>>384177383
You know there was splatfest that just happened.
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>>384169886
So your saying Botw was actually shit and the fact its a nintendo brand is the only reason it was rated high and because nostalgic nu males.
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No one can stop the woomypocalypse
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>>384177529
>>384177567
>>384177568
Maybe he meant outside of /v/ and the internet. I have seen nothing about this game outside of the threads here, I just figured it was because I had no interest in it. Maybe they ran advertisements on things I just don't watch though.
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>>384176708
>>384177073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQgcf-EcKVk
You can totally use motion aiming on all axis. It's not necessary to use the Y axis on the stick, because simply tilting the controller allows you to control the arc of your shot. You won't be spinning the camera around in circles vertically, so you really don't need anything but a simple tilt up or down.
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>>384177846
You either live in some shithole or you're lying
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>>384177939
To be fair, I walked into Gamestop last week and there wasn't even a poster up for the game. The only way you can know the game is coming out is if you own a Switch and saw the ads on the device or you live in Japan.
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>>384177758
I still think BOTW was a great game, sounds like you've fallen into the trap of thinking a game is either a masterpiece or a flop. Of course brand/character recognition helps a game, or any media in general.
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>>384169214
~80 because reviewers can't git gud and some are bound to get salty over losing a few games and take their frustration out on their review.
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>>384178206
They show it in all of the Switch commercials as of a couple weeks ago, as soon as they stopped showing Arms a bunch.
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>>384178206
getting ready for that bag anon?
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>>384174609
Like cod? God damn that would suck

Splatoon has amazing controls end off
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>>384176935
IGN has literally no credibility, I don't know why anyone listens to them for anything other than shitposting fuel.

Their opinions matter less than /v/'s, which already matters very little.
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>>384177846
>>384178206
They show ads on TV and at the movies all the time. When I went to watch Spiderman and Planet of the Apes I saw commercials for ARMS and Splatoon. Not to mention all the ads during Youtube videos and posters at stores like target which they partner with
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>>384177607
Na, that's fucking stupid, since none of the reviews ever got updated to take into account the +200% maps and +150% modes that were added to the original, not to mention the countless weapons. The score didn't accurately represent the game within weeks of the game's release. So either you update your review as content releases or you take that into account with the initial review, especially since we have both dev statements and a precedent that can give us a realistic expectation of what is to come
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>>384178761
Holy shit this picture is perfect
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>>384171101
Nah, these digits tell the truth. Check them.
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>>384177918
I don't care, I would still be afforded extra control and accuracy if I had both stick and gyro for Y axis movements
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>>384178320
Never seen an ad for splatoon 2

These anons aren't wrong. I remember seeing them for the first game.
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>>384179043
That's the first time I've ever heard someone say that adding stick aiming would make them more accurate.
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>>384179059
https://youtu.be/kXcB8vL2ZkE
They're not as noticeable because they don't have any catchy songs.
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>>384178826
>So either you update your review as content releases or you take that into account with the initial review, especially since we have both dev statements and a precedent that can give us a realistic expectation of what is to come

They review the product as is when it comes out like any other review for a product. They have no obligation to base their review on unreleased promises or update their review later. Release the game finished if you want a good review.
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>>384179283
>They're not as noticeable because they don't have any catchy songs.

You know, that might actually be the reason why.
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>>384171436
Andre's a spurg anyway.
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>>384178761
>Are Esports Too Dependent on Sponsors? - Esports Weekly with Coco-Cola
fucking kek
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>>384178826
Nah, it's fucking stupid to review a game for content that doesn't exist yet and you haven't played. Complaining that they never updated the review is another issue entirely, especially since even if they did the metacritic score would have remained the same since metacritic doesn't accept revised scores.

Accounting for content that doesn't exist yet in a review because the dev promised it is fucking RETARDED. Splatoon was a new IP at the time and the devs had never released a game with such little content on release, there was no precedent set for the quality and quantity of content that would come.
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>>384179306
>They have no obligation to base their review on unreleased promises or update their review later.
they have no obligation to review the game at all. If their review is not going to accurately represent the product within a week, then it is a shitty, worthless review
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What are you, fucking retarded?

Everyone with a Switch has played a testfire. We already know the pros and cons of the game.

Who gives a fuck what Kotaku says?
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>>384179683
I'm not arguing for Splatoon having deserved accommodations at release. Read my original comment if you're going to just jump into a conversation
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>>384179989
The people who don't own a Switch./
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>>384180049
But that's exactly what you were arguing for
>>It's totally fair to be critical about the lack of content at the time of review.
>Na, that's fucking stupid, since none of the reviews ever got updated to take into account the +200% maps and +150% modes that were added to the original,
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>>384179989
We don't know how good the single player campaign will be, competitive, the mountain of other weapons, and more. Not to say that reviewers are a good source on that but we don't know everything.
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>>384179757
>they have no obligation to review the game at all.

I mean no shit bro, they do it for money.

>If their review is not going to accurately represent the product within a week, then it is a shitty, worthless review

That's why you shouldn't listen to reviews my friend. Only reviewer I listen to is ACG and he's independent. Just watch game play videos and talk to the more genuine posters on /v/ and you'll rarely buy a bad game.
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>>384177918
I was using the joycons, but if the pro controller lets me use motion aiming on both axis I'll probably keep it on.
>It's not necessary to use the Y axis on the stick, you really don't need anything but a simple tilt up or down.
But it is superior to have it available than to disable it. It's not necessary to disable the Y axis on the stick and there's no reason to disable it, because it is useful for vertical aim even when used in conjunction with gyro aiming, even if you're not using it to spin the camera completely in 360 degrees.

Having both axis on the stick > having only one axis on the stick.
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>>384180497
I used both controllers during the test, and played a frankly absurd amount of the first game. It must have been a problem on your end.
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>>384180171
Yeah, that one should have had updated reviews, but by no means better initial reviews. Splatoon 2 can have a more realistic expectation of substantial content updates, so worries about a lack of content can be assuaged at the outset. It can/should also be updated if the reviewers get more content than they expected. Your green text doesn't represent my beliefs at all. It is reasonable at the time of release to be critical, but it is not reasonable to let those criticisms stand when updates eliminate the basis for those criticisms
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What it deserves: 45
>Full price copy and paste of a barebones game with no new features to be found

What it will get: 90
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>>384181027
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>>384180471
>they do it for money
no shit bro. I'm just confused as to why you are arguing on their behalf, as if they have the moral high ground for leaving reviews that become entirely inaccurate

>don't listen to reviews
I don't. I watch gameplay vids and sometimes listen to late night, genuine /v/. and ACG sucks. he uses so many stupid, poorly formed metaphors for comedic effect while starting every review with "I won't waste your time or pad things out"
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>>384181027
Well yeah, it's Splatoon 2. So it gets two times the score. 45 times 2 is 90.
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>>384180809
The problem is that I was tilting the controller instead of turning it like a steering wheel or twisting it on its yaw. Controlling horizontal aim with motion controls by rotating the yaw is a lot less intuitive IMO but I guess it's better than having no control over it.
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>>384181957
Works on my machine.
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>>384169214
85. It's going to be exactly like the old reviews, but extra points added for Salmon Run.
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>>384182092
Work on your reading comprehension.
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>>384169214
I want to believe it will be better than Splatoon 1's 81. Maybe it needs points off for not being too big a departure, especially the single player, but everything's been polished to a sheen, they've made some wiser choices about the gameplay and there's more content out of the gate compared to the first.

I really hope all of the reviewers single out the music too. It doesn't just top the first game's, its some of the best vidya music I've heard in a long time.
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>>384169214
The PS3 will outlive the switch just like it did the Wii U
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>>384169367
>>384169367
>>384169367
>>384169367
This
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>>384181813
>'m just confused as to why you are arguing on their behalf,
Because your objections are irrational, and they have the "high ground" when it comes to basing their reviews only on shit that's in the game.

>listen to late night, genuine /v/.
Late night /v/ is an outdated meme. Many times /v/ has even more shitposters at night than during the day. I can't count the amount of times I've come on /v/ at like 3AM just to see a 500 post trump thread/ The truth is /v/ is shitty 24/7 regardless of timezone.
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>>384171957
This.
I think it will be an 86 or 87 personally.
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>>384169214
92
Nintendo finally figured out game journalists are cancerous Sony shills, but if they pay for reviews they, too, can be shilled for.
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>>384183065
But Nintendo doesn't pay for reviews, which is why the nintendo tax exists where Nintendo games get their score reduced specifically because they are from Nintendo.
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>>384183356
You don't get good reviews without paying for reviews, and seems Nintendo has been getting good reviews this time around.
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>>384182801
>your objections are irrational
right, cause I love when people review the first episode of a television show and never any others it gives me a great sense of what I'll get from watching the series

>late night /v/ is a meme
sure, shitposters are still prevalent, but they infest the smaller threads much less. Bait, consolewar and pol shit is perennial now. It's presence doesn't mean that night smaller night threads aren't better. I don't bother with threads about new games that aren't general esque
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>>384183518
Not Nintendo, if they get good reviews, it's because they are so good, only the most overt shills would apply the tax.

Look at breath of the wild. Only the most well known anti nintendo, sony fag reviewers gave that a bad score.
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87-93

Not a lot to shit on this time around. They'll knock the meh single player (although praise the amounts of it compared to Splatoon 1), and maybe lack of MP maps, although they will mention the upcoming DLC. They might also criticize the graphics.
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I played the Splatfest, and at the end of it I just felt like I had absolutely no control over my character. All I did was die repeatedly to random bullshit while wrestling with the controls. After 4 hours I felt that I hadn't improved at the controls at all.

There's no aim assist as is customary with stick-based FPS, so gyro controls are absolutely necessary, but turning them off disables you from using the stick to look up and down. There's no reason for this, and honestly it's going to prevent me from buying the game. A competitive shooter simply can't get away with having subpar control options like this.

I'd try to look down or aim at an enemy, but my hand would be in a position where I couldn't move it more, so I hit the button to re-center view, but since the joycon wasn't held completely flat, it'd return me to a view where I was looking up for some reason. By this point, if an enemy was attacking, I'd already be dead without being able to retaliate in any way.

The game seems to want you to use the re-center button for everything while ignoring the stick, but it simply doesn't work correctly. It fails to center your view vertically, and vertical aiming is virtually impossible. While using the stick to move my aim, I would instinctively try to use it to aim vertically as well, since logic dictates that you would use the same input option to aim in all directions. But nope, the game wants me to wave my controller around to look up and down while using a stick to look left and right. It just doesn't work.

BOTW had the best motion controlled aiming I'd ever seen, and I was so excited to play a real FPS with the same control scheme. I got my hands on Splatoon, and all that excitement just evaporated. The gyro aiming is poorly implemented at best, and unreliable at worst. Even in situations where I had time to aim using the gyro controls, I would often miss due to the controls being twitchy or inaccurate. I can't justify paying 60 dollars for a game like this.
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>>384180872
Games should be reviewed in the state they're in, not what the devs said it will be in the future. It's not reasonable to expect reviews to account for content that doesn't exist yet and hasn't been played by the reviewer.

>Your green text doesn't represent my beliefs at all.
I literally quoted you word-for-word.

The problem is you're conflating two different complaints. One is that reviewers shouldn't be critical about a lack of content just because the dev promises updates, which quite frankly is retarded. The other complaint is that reviewers aren't updating their scores to accurately reflect the game after the fact, which might be a valid complaint but ignores the fact that metacritic does not allow critics to submit updated review scores, and the metactic score would have stayed the same even after the updates which seems to be the source of your complaints.
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>>384183356
>>384183751
This guy, just to disclose: >>384183518
Just wanted to add some evidence
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/mario-kart-8
http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/mario-kart-8-deluxe

Essentially the same game except ported so people who skipped Wii U can play it, one score is <90, the other score is >90.

I'm convinced game reviews are like the BBB where a game, no matter how good, can't break 90 without paying.
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>>384171736
>Shitendo
What are you, fucking 12? Jesus Christ.
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>>384184006
Correlation does not imply causation retard.

Also Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is better than Mario Kart 8, so it deserves a better score. So your 'evidence' is moot.
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>>384183554
>right, cause I love when people review the first episode of a television show and never any others it gives me a great sense of what I'll get from watching the series
This isn't a valid comparison since TV reviewers generally don't review entire seasons of a show based on only the first episode. And even if they did, you're buying a video game not a season pass.
It's more akin to a critic reviewing an episode that ends up getting reaired with added scenes and demanding the critic account for reairings.
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>>384183891
Git gud.
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>>384171101
>jim sterling does his usual contrarian schtick, gives it a 5/100
>he doesn't realize that literally everyone else gave it a 0
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>>384183943
You were quoting me word for word with selected, out of context quotes. I'm not saying "the devs made a promise, they'd never break it so be nice to them in reviews". I'm saying that a specific criticism of a lack of content should not be made when we have both a precedent for substantial updates and comments from devs(accompanied by videos of some of the promised content)

I don't give a shit about the metacritic score. I'm arguing for reviews that accurately represent the product people are getting. Either do that with review updates or with a consideration made for future updates. They can have any amount of trepidation they want with the proprosed content updates, but if they ignore them, then the review is inaccurate. I'm sure you wouldn't argue that reviews should completely ignore splatfests, but those are just a promise from devs too
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>>384184507

Nah, I think I'll just skip buying the game and keep playing PC fps with normal control schemes that don't actively fight the player and prevent me from playing.
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>>384184006
I love how the salty kiddies on /v/ desperate have to concoct the most ridiculous conspiracy theories to explain how Nintendo games get good reviews.

No way could you just accept that Nintendo are simply good at making games. Despite the decades of evidence and histrionic trends to show that might just be the answer.
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>>384184853
>I'll keep playing the same uninnovative shit, because I have autism and can't tolerate change
Be my guest. In the mean time, I'll be having a fucking blast playing Splatoon. :D
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>>384184427
>This isn't a valid comparison since TV reviewers generally don't review entire seasons of a show based on only the first episode
that's my entire point. They review an entire season or they review the season in increments as it is released. Content updates like this is essentially an episodic release for multiplayer games. Your analogy makes far less sense than mine. People are buying Splatoon with the promise of updates. Updates that have been shown, teased and scheduled. I wouldn't be making this argument for a game that released in a shit state and then randomly got patched and updated
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>>384185223

I'd play it if it had working controls. It doesn't, though.
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>>384184006
t. retard
The only flaw in MK8 to reviewers was the battle mode which was added in deluxe
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>min 81
>max 92
i don't see critics praising it highly
i had a fuckton of fun during the testfire+splatfest, so i'm buying it either way
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>>384182537
It is better, but the reviewers will never admit to it after giving massive amount of praise about how good other modern shooters are. Have any of them actually comment over how much better gyro aiming is when compared to other shooters?
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>>384184661
You'd be surprised, that fat faggot actually enjoyed the original at launch. He literally has no excuse to give 2 a lower rating.
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>>384185020
Dude, I'm not criticizing Nintendo here, I'm criticizing game journalism.
Read what I said above
>Nintendo finally figured out game journalists are cancerous Sony shills, but if they pay for reviews they, too, can be shilled for.
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>>384184853
It is not nearly like that you idiot. You also seem to be implying you're making hard movements with whatever control scheme you're using. You don't need to.

Just going to file you under Being a Bitch.
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>>384184836
>shielded dynamo roller
cancer
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>>384169492
I love Splatoon, it's an amazingly great squad shooter with shockingly tighter gameplay and stronger mechanics than most of it's ilk that came before or after including Overwatch and Team Fortress 2.

That said, if game scores weren't so heavily inflated, this is the score it probably deserves.

- guy who played the first game for 200+hours
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>>384184836
fucking ugh
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>>384183891
>first time playing any Splatoon game
>got used to the gyro controls after a few hours
>pic related
You need to get good anon
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>>384185324
I don't blame you for not playing it. I can't get into the motion controls, and It took me forever to get good with sticks and no aim assist. But I got to the second highest ranking, so it is possible. It's a shame that you won't be able to enjoy it though. the game is a blast
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Fuck, that Splatfest from yesterday really has me itching to play the game some more. Fuck waiting for Friday.
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I played the spaltfest free demo thing yesterday. Never played spaltoon before. I was actually pretty cynical. I not really a Nintendo player and I don't know much about their games. I thought Spaltoon looked like stupid kiddie shit to be quite honest.

Pic related was my fucking face after playing a few hours. These Nintendorks were right. This game is great fucking fun. It's stupid as fuck but really good fun. Are all Nintendo games this good? Anyone who calls me a shill can get fucked.
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>>384185686

I really want to enjoy it but I played it for 4 hours and didn't have any fun at all. I was hyped for this game and this is honestly a huge disappointment.
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>>384184661
Jim sterling is a faggot, the sad thing is he probably will since his little plan worked out so well last time
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85 to 88. It improves a few things from the time the first game's reviews released but im sure some issues will still be complained about, as well as at least a couple people saying how Salmon Run being certain times means negative points.
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>>384186017
m8 I was the same for the first game, didn't give a flying fuck about it from the trailers, but my friend convinced me to try the demo. Have hundreds of hours in the first game and hope to get hundreds more in the sequel.
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>>384185324
Yoy know there's gameplay that show it works perfectly.
>>384184836
Fuck why.
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>>384186096
why did you keep playing for the full 4 hours if you weren't having fun
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>>384186351
>Yoy know there's gameplay that show it works perfectly.

But I played it and it doesn't work.
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>>384184661
>>384186115

Hard to say. He actually loved Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on Switch and defended it quite viciously when plenty of others were criticising it.
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>callie and marie amiibos and the artbook just got delivered

it's time for a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8EPblJtQlM
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>>384186442
He wanted to make sure it wasn't fun
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>>384186283
That first testfire with /v/ was amazing. Everyone was so surprised with the game and everyone was having a blast. I'm glad they're gone, but I'll never forget the goofy smile I had when using a bubbler to save my teammate and I from a killer wail
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i'm gonna guess below the first game
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>>384186469
it works and it manages to work better than the gameplay in the original since you don't have to use a giant-ass gamepad, much easier to fine tune your aim with a pro controller. I still suck shit with chargers though
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>>384186521
Who actually hated MK8 Deluxe though? It was such a massive improvement over the original and for an extremely reasonable price.
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>>384186017
MK8 in my opinion wasn't as fun, but still an absolute blast if you can get friends together.
I'm absolutely fucking loving ARMS. It's to the fighting genre what Splatoon is to the shooter genre.

I, too, am rediscovering Nintendo after being a Sony fanboy.
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pro controller and separate joy cons with motion control felt way better than handheld. the splatfest got me used to the new specials and not accidentally opening the map like I was doing during the first testfire.
It'll probably get an 80-something. Maybe less cause reviewers are mostly shit at multiplayer Splatoon.
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>>384169214
These digits
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>>384169214
8.8
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>>384186649
Me and my friend a week into release would use splattershot jr to literally spawn camp urchin underpass. We joked that we were the reason the stage got changed.
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>>384186801
Well sure, but Jim gets painted as a Nintendo hater when he's really just trolling fanbois (and Nintendo themsleves) for lulz.
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>>384186902
No, THESE digits
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>>384186902
Holy shit, Splatoon 2's going to get a 384186902/100?!
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>>384186968
Urchin was a mess at release. Once a team got mid, you could just spam bombs over that little hill until the game was over.
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>>384186998
If Nintendo fans didn't engage e-celebs who criticized Nintendo games, then maybe Nintendo fans wouldn't have such a bad reputation. The deal with Sterling and BOTW revealed how childish the fanbase can be, plus it gave the fat fuck free publicity.
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>>384186649
>>384186968
t.Nintendoshills
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>>384188136
You should try playing some video games instead of just posting on /v/, you never know, you might actually have some fun.
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>>384188136
(you)
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>>384187579
Are you really surprised that they engage? This board continues to exist solely on the basis of shitposters being responded to
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>>384169214
12
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>>384169214
Mid 80s.

They're going to praise all the multiplayer modes, and such. But comment on how short and lackluster the single player is.
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>>384179059
How about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEMKpui2krI ?
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>>384169214
75

There's going to be surprisingly low scores for this I think.
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>>384191010
I can see it happening, they won't want people to call on Nintendo favoritism if they give it a high score after BotW not long ago.
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