Settlements!

>>384168127
>(beyond Elder Scrolls 6, in which I'm told "colony" building will be a big part, as you play an Imperial sent to a new continent to establish an imperial stronghold)

I know you're bullshitting, but if this actually happened I would literally hire an assassin to kill Todd. Don't even care if it was traced back to me, the time in prison having my ass split would be worth it.

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>>384168482
Why not just kill him yourself?

>>384168482
Don't blame Todd. Stinky Pete is the madman behind the downfall of Bethesda

>>384168482
I'd back you up, just make a kickstarter for that and money will flow

>>384168127
FO4 settlements were just fucked up and overcomplicated. It's a headache managing power/water/food/your wageslaves/NEETards etc.

Should have been only companions and named characters from unmarked/sidequests/story/encounters that all provide a certain service.

Attacks should have been based only off the result of story/sidequest and never random. For example if you save some sythns during a quest, coursers led by a named miniboss attack.

So much missed potential

>>384168127
I fucking hate Bethesda

>>384168127
In Starfield you start off as an Exploring Officer set to map part of the belt.
Setting up your forward base is part of that mission.
Your source may have confused this with TES.

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>>384168710
this
Todd just genuinely wants to make good games

>>384168710
Pete is the one who unfucked ESO.

>>384169184
The shitty thing about Fallout 4's settlement system is that you only get attacked when one of your resources are low. I think my settlement got attacked maybe once in my 200 hour playthrough. Their free Fallout Shelter app game literally had a better settlement system.

>>384169592
What did he do? I didn't keep up with ESO so I'm genuinely curious

>>384169760
After the poor launch Pete went in and made them focus far more on the Elder Scrolls aspect of the game.
This and the console launch saved ESO.

There are a few articles bouncing around that go more in depth.

>>384169592
fuck off, pete

It's hard for me to get into settlement building in this game. I don't know how people visualize these huge awesome structures and then manage to fit all the pieces together without it looking shit. I've tried minuteman playthroughs but I never end up building anything.

>>384170316
Post yfw I am actually Pete.

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>>384169760
You can just really tell he only cares about making money.

"I'm not interested in discussing how realistic things are in a post apocalyptic game with talking mutants and ghouls"

Pretty disrespectful to the fanbase if you ask me.

>>384168127
>See all these autism forts made in the Marina and Starlight
>Can't figure it out because I hate the building controls
I hate settlement threads. They make me feel inadequate.

>>384168127
fortnite looks pretty dope

>>384168127
The colonization system was leaked by the same guy saying Starfield would be released at e3
That wasn't true

>>384169184
It wasn't complicated. The implementation, UI, and controls for it were just shit.

>>384170489
To be fair the person he was responding to was an idiot.
He didn't realize the origin of Jet was unclear in FO2 and was being a cunt about it.

Sometimes you just need to tell an asshole to STFU.

>>384170876
The argument wasn't about jet, it was about the terrible Kid In A Fridge quest that had literally no fucking thought put into it at all.

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>>384168127

The only one that comes to mind is Re:Legend, an upcoming game.
But it looks to be much more Rune Factory than settlement building... also, it's a kickstarter, which might scare some people.
It does look nice, if you're into that genre, but I'm not sure it's what you're after.

>>384169550
That's true but he's still a liar and his definition of a good game is lacking.

>>384171056
That quest wasn't too bad. It lets you sell a ghoul kid as a slave and that's one of the better evil choices in the whole game

>>384170876
>He didn't realize the origin of Jet was unclear in FO2
Myron literally tells you how he invented it.

>>384171056
That was his second gripe.
His initial bitch was Jet.
Some people just like to whine.

>>384171502
And Mrs Bishop disagrees.
Unless Myron invented it before he was born.

>>384171410
Wow, such depth. a choice. That quest was literally the worst in the game.
>Kid trapped in fridge for 200 FUCKING years
>His parents are literally just a brisk walk away from where he was trapped.

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>>384171539
Also, it was about the fridge.

>>384171841
A brisk walk through the most heavily occupied gunner territory

>>384168127
there is literally no information about ES6, dont bullshit, and dont believe /v/

>>384172105
They've been ghouls since the bombs dropped. Are you telling me that human gunners have occupied that city since then, and that they didn't eventually have to scavenge in the area and come by that fridge.

>>384172073
Just like I said.
Try to keep up.
At least put points into reading comprehension kiddo.

>>384171648
That was a mistake according to the developers.

>>384169184
eh i enjoyed them at first. they could've given more tools and made it so everything didnt have to be so blocky and right angles, but I enjoyed it to begin with. my issue was trying to care after the third settlement. I put a lot of heart into the first couple but then it became a chore and started doing the bare minimum to keep the people happy. not to mention the people are useless. they didnt do anything. I wish they had some autonomy or even just decorated a bit

>>384172836
What they meant to do and what they actually did are two different things.
There were conflicting accounts in game and Bethesda clarified who was correct.

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You guys don't need to worry. You'll have the option of creating your character at the start of ES6.

The system will work (it just works) like it did in the magnificent Fallout 4.

Regardless of race, eventually build, etc., your character will either be a Legion officer (male or female!) trying to reclaim lost honor in the New World. Many exciting possibilities for role playing this character awaits!
-T

Hey, say what you want about Fallout 4 but it had the best character creation mechanics I've ever seen in a videogame.

>>384173107
No they didn't.
You'd get better mileage claiming Myron is a Time Traveler, since there is more supporting that in game than what you're saying.

>>384172628
The point I was trying to make was that the comment by Pete Hines was a direct reply to him mentioning the Kid In A Fridge quest.

>>384173474
Appearance =/= character. There was no character creation, your personality was handed to you in the prologue.

>>384172073
Its not a matter of realism, its a matter of lore consistency. Ghouls arent immortal creatures, they still need food and water they just arent effected by radiation.

>>384174227
I didn't say anything about the voice man, all I'm saying is if they handed the next installment to an outside developer it would have a really good template for them to work with.

>>384174227
Not really you can be goody two shoes, asshole or sarcastic witty asshole

>>384172339
A charitable interpretation could be that the gouls and their son are trapped in some kind of loop. H goes out every day and gets lost only for them to discover him at the end of the day, you just interrupt that. Perhaps trapped reliving the traumatic events when the bombs fell. Would be good if you found him there again when going back a week later, only for them to not understand when you say you have done this before. Still a shit quest though.

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>>384174380
Exactly. It was pretty much a huge middle finger to anyone who played any of the previous games. Also didn't like how alot of ghouls had pitch black eyes. The ghouls in Fallout 3 and 4 were so much more unique from one another and interesting to look at.

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>>384175316
>Fucking brain eater!

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>>384175437
Probably my favorite in Fo3

>>384174879
I heard somewhere that the team at Bethesda just pulls lore from the wiki and none of them really look into understanding the established lore of the past. Hence you get this shit about immortal ghouls and pre-war vaults full of post war drugs.

What really boils me about Pete is that quote where he says he doesn't care about dialogue and story and only plays games to fuck around. And he's a tops guy in developing Fallout games. He should be working on something more his speed, like a coloring book.

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>>384175694
What are ya gonna do, eh. Hopefully they sell the franchise to Obsidian or some other competent developer. Just anyone other than EA

>>384175694
Pete is the marketing guy and mouthpiece of Bethesda I don't think he's as important as Todd in the game development part.

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>>384177515
See what I mean

>>384173482
Did you play fallout 2?
Myron is not exactly a bastion of integrity.

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Sup

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>>384177515
>>384177386
I'll never not be annoyed

>>384178060
My one complaint about the settlement system is not being able to create your own interior cell. That and the vanilla, no DLC's installed assets to work with all look like cobbled together shit.

If you could be any Fallout character which one would you be?

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>>384178381
If you have build autism, fallout was fun as hell. In most Fallout games you eventually reach that point where money has to value you to you but there was never a point when I stopped collecting junk or stopped turning money into junk

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>>384178591
FRANK HORRIGAN

>>384177698
Neither is Bishop.
Since you insist she's right and we know from Myron and what Mordinos say that Myron is right, that means Myron must be a time traveler.
We know Time Travel (like Aliens) is a factual part of the setting, and it shows up in a random event in Fallout 2. Thus Myron must have also gone back in time with Jet after inventing it and introduced it into the world before it was invented or he was even born.
You've opened all our eyes, anon. Truly the deepest Lore.
Good catch on that, Pete!

>>384178695
Anon, you have holes in your fucking walls and ceiling

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>>384178983
Of course I do, it looks like shit when you use the same good walls repeating endlessly

>>384178591
Nick

>>384168482
Use the Morag Tong, it's legal

>>384178890
Occams razor anon.
Myron lied.
You can spin a convoluted yarn to make it seem more complicated than it actually is if you want.
Or go with the most likely answer.

Your choice.
It is entertaining so by all means please proceed.

>>384178591
The Courier

>>384179803
Occam's Razor.
Mrs. Bishop lied.
You can spin some bizarre tale with Myron and all the Mordinos and other crime family's lying and being bamboozled.
Or Mrs. Bishop is a drugged out floozie that makes up bullshit.

I think the simpler option is obvious.

>>384180514
But I spun no tales anon.
Mrs Bishop has no motive to lie does she?
If Myron told you water was wet you should get a glass of water and check.

Swing and a miss anon.

>>384181008
Mrs. Bishop is a druggie and a drunk. She isn't a credible source on history, not even her own.

>>384179803
Myron invented jet mrs.bishop saying she used jet before Myron was born was a complete fuck up and Chris avellone admitted it

>>384181426
Don't talk that way about my waifu!

>>384168127
>as you play an Imperial sent to a new continent to establish an imperial stronghold

This better not be true

>>384169184
Still they're the best bit about fallout 4 and are the only feature that gives the game any value after the shitty storyline.

>>384181660
Why not? Don't you want to see Akavir?

>>384172073
only thing Pete did wrong was not replying "If you're wondering how he eats and breathes, and other science facts, then repeat to yourself "it's just a game, I should really just relax"".

>>384181426
Jet was in 2,3,NV, and 4.
The preponderance of evidence shows it was pre war.
2 had evidence that it was at least pre Myron and pre war according to 4.

There is exactly one source that claims Myron invented it...Myron.
If you have played the quest or at least read his wiki you know he is a less than reliable source.

Jet was pre war.
You just have to deal with it.

>>384168127
I don't care what they do with the next elder scrools game as long as they stop shoehorning "story" into what should be a sandbox game with no voiced character or scripted events

>>384182225
I'm sorry pete, but you just need to admit you made a mistake. The makers of fallout 2 did, why can't you? It's almost pathological.

>>384168127
>toddposting
>settlement posting
>waifu posting
Bethesda needs to end now.

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>>384182225
lol

>>384182225
Jet being in 3 and 4 could be attributed to trading from west to east and maybe some wastelanders copying it. Jet being in pre war locations is a game mechanic issue and can be handwaved. But you are correct after fallout 4s stupidity with vault 95 jet is now pre war.

>>384182658
I guess Myron really is a time traveler.

>>384179273
>he thinks this looks better
? there is no point to the settlement building other than autism, and its not even constructive autism.

is fallout 4 worth playing? I saw my friend playing it a long time ago and it looked pretty comfy but repetitive after a certain point

>>384183854
Yeah that's pretty much it. Although i wouldn't give it the meme compliment like comfy. Honestly the best you can do is get mods that improve on it's best parts (shoot n loot) and just ignore the worst parts (writing). You'll end up with s.t.a.l.k.e.r fallout edition

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>>384171410
That quest was one of the worst quest's I have ever played in any video game in terms of Logic

That quest made less sense than world of war crafts "collect 10 bear asses" quests.

That quest made less sense than the finale "get in the radiation hole" quest in fallout 3.

That quest made less sense than telling eden to "just blow yourself up, lol" in fallout 3

That quest made less sense than clearing out dungeons for the thieves guild and becoming the leader in a half-hour


I have played hundreds of RPG's and I can confidently say, this is the worst quest, I have ever played, ever. Video game or otherwise.
From the Logic behind the quest
To the execution of walking 30 feet
To the retarded "wanna sellem or not" choice

Hands down, bar none, the worst.

You dont even get anything good lol

>>384183854
I wouldn't recommend it.

>>384174842
>players have to do mental gymnastics just to muster a half assed explanation as to how this quest could even happen

I am honestly surprised its still in the game.

>>384182225
brahmins didn't exist pre-war

>>384174380
It was literally a playful jab at a scene in the latest Indiana Jones movie, calm your autism my god.

>>384168127
>elder scrolls 6
>as you play an imperial
bait or completely dropped.

>are there some games that do settlement building better than fallout 4?
yeah all of them, nevermind, this is clearly bait.

>>384183854
Download Pilgrim. fixes the shitty comfy asthetic of it.

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>>384185278
>cattle didn't exist pre-war

>>384186464
So internet existed back in the middle ages
>communication didn't exist in the middle ages

>>384186464
Yes but they didn't have mutated shit that made super shrooms that you can inhale.

>>384186846
Muslim had the internet as early as 783 AD

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>>384187045
Stolen from Africans, you mean.

>>384183854
I've put like 200 hours into it but I'm not sure if I've enjoyed any of it. It's more of a time sink than a game

>>384176174
>I get healed by radiation
>I also follow every single word told to me by the person that holds my contract
>Oh but lmao you should walk into the highly irradiated room and die even though you told me to do that

>>384188473
Pretty sure with broken steel added on you can tell him and any of your followers for that matter to go in instead of you.

>>384188473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpmlMFsvpKU

Yep.

>>384189460
But you shouldn't have to have a dlc to fix shit writing like that

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>>384183238
I dont disagree but I happen to have the build autism

>>384183017
Time travel is canon in fallout, the chosen one goes back in time and sabotages the water chip.

>>384168482
you do realise that todd isn't the evil mastermind behind every decision in Bethesda and there are many personnel making their own decisions?

half of the stuff in FO4 wasn't even Todd's decision

dwarf fort

>>384190248
That's just how they wanted it to be man. How about taking the game for what it is instead of searching for flaws or pointing out the same old shit that someone always says every goddamn fallout thread that even slightly mentions 3. Play something without all the preconceptions and you might actually enjoy it man.

which fallout game has the best writing/story?

Played 4, NV and 2. How does 3's story compare to the fomer ones?

>>384191387
Please do yourself a favor and play it yourself without listening to me or anyone else on here. I personally love the game, but if you listen to anyone on here they'll just tell you it's the worst game ever made just because it was made by Bethesda. Make your own opinion without tainting it with others.

>>384181776
i agree.

Normies complaining settlement system were to complicated are the same guys bethesda is catering to with the lack of rpg mechanics and quest markers.

You could argue settlements sucked becuase they took away from the main games hand placed settlements and were not very interesting because you never get attack but over complicated or tedious? No. Just dont build a self sufficient settlement at every possible place you can. build one, if you want to.

>>384182290
anon, bethesda games are not sandbox games.
Also good luck with that. Thye have been trying harder and harder to make their games "cinimatic experiences" because the money men behind the company sees themselves as interactive movie creators.

>>384191387
It's flawed but it's not awful. It's also pretty fun to explore. DLC is pretty good too, especially point lookout and the pitt. The Pitt is pretty well written.

>>384191387
Fo3 has a pretty short linear main story there's not a whole lot of choice with it. You have to work with the moralfag BoS to fight the enclave and they make you a knight without even asking.

>>384178060
>>384168127

Bethesda and fallout players are so retarded they don't even notice it makes no sense for recently created settlements to look like rusty ramshackle shit. Why the fuck would you cut the boards different lengths?

>>384192471
So does Skyrim, and everyone seems to love it.

>>384190898
So you're saying they wanted it to be a badly written story driven by obvious contrivances, plot holes, and cheats? They did a very good job, then. The basic logic of storytelling isn't something that goes away because 'muh artistic vision'. Bioware and Irrational both learned that lesson the hard way.

>>384191387
Short answer: It doesn't. Citation answer: Google 'The Blistering Stupidity of Fallout 3'

>>384168482
I would love to see the other continent and make colonies as i explore but i'm sure the inhuman cockroaches at bethesda will waste all their resources patching up their frankensteins monster of a game engine then make a piss poor beyond shallow game worse than skyrim somehow. Maybe they'll take out stats all together like they kind of did with skyrim, except this time giving you absolutely no choice.

Please god, give this genre formula to ANY other company. These priceless, passionless and mediocre faggots don't deserve such an amazing cashcow system they have going. Imagine skyrim with a proper ability system or ,even better, an ability maker like oblivion had but including physical attacks, cooldown and other balancing elements and crowd control etc? That shit would have a larger impact than half life did.

If that formula was given the love it deserves with the budget it deserves, it could easily be game of the century.

I wish you luck.

>>384192581
You know it's bad when 200 year old ruined buildings in the city look better than your settlement you just made.

>>384192649
because choice and decisions were never a part of TES

>>384192795
to be fair, those buildings were built under better conditions, more resources, better tools and funding. Its probably also hard to find people with enough education to engineer buildings well anymore.

>>384192831
In the quest logic sense? No. In the world-exploration sense? Yes it most certainly was. Daggerfall took it the furthest (joining one guild locked you out of others, the choice windows opened and closed right at the stat pages) but Morrowind still had it to a great extent.

>>384192718
Holy shit man I just like the goddamn fucking game sue me. I didn't say it didn't have plot holes, didn't say the story was perfect, I didn't say you couldn't use exploits. I just like the game. should I kill myself right here and now to further the fucking evolution of mankind because I'm obviously a retard with a personal preference towards something that has recently became infamous. fuck

>>384192795
Difference is they were built by pros before the war, you're a soldier/lawyer scavenging all the garbage you can find and cutting down dead trees.

>>384192718
Good to see you let Google make your decisions for you.

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For all you new players, just know your wife Nora cucked you into raising her black son.

>>384192743
>priceless
Prideless* woopsy

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>>384192581
Dont care about making sense if its fun

>>384191932
No, what bethes doesn't realize is that their systems are more complicated. It's easy as fuck to select your traits and up a number for your skills. Seeing a whole page of special and perks, all with multiple ranks and percentages is bullshit. Its easier to talk when you know exactly what you're going to say rather than a 2 word summary off what you're going to say.

>>384194116
The default characters are just dark you need to pick the blonde presets

>>384168127
Rimworld.

>>384194445
>Building structures on the artillery holes

Blasphemy

>>384193248
You are not your choices in optional entertainment. Liking or disliking this game, or any other game, or any piece of media or art is not a qualifier on you personally. Don't ever let anyone tell you that it is, because if they do they're being an inbred galleryfag and need to just fuck right off.

Fallout 3's writing is objectively bad by very basic structural standards. We're not talking about Sistine Chapel versus Saint Peter's Cathedral. We're talking 'does the structure even stand up on its own weight?' and Fallout 3 doesn't. The reason the writers kept cheating was the same reason Fallout 4 has so many weird flaws; they came up with an idea, a bad one, and instead of admitting it was bad and abandoning it they got wedded to it and kept building scaffolding around it to prop it up. Hence the flash bangs that shouldn't work on power armor knocking you out even if you're wearing it getting thrown from a spot the person throwing it had no possible way to reach both because the spot was impossible to reach and he was supposed to be dead.

>>384193850
I played Fallout 3 when it came out. I don't hate the game as such, but it's still bad storytelling and barely qualifies as a Fallout game. I pointed to Young because he writes well and with clarity, and while I'd like to see a more comprehensive essay tackling things like cavalier violations of established setting in both Fallout 3 and 4, I realize that such an essay would sprawl into something rather absurd. Young, an experienced hand, needed about 7,500 words to set out his complaints and there's very little cruft in that. A comprehensive analysis would rival the uncensored edition of Stranger in a Strange Land for length.

>>384179273
>Settlers go to the bar and the end of each day
I thought that was a nice touch

>>384194116
Nora is black you dumbass.

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>>384194560
>guy doesn't eat with a table
>burns down the entire colony and kills everyone
>feels bad about all his friends dying
>goes berserk again and attempts to beat a bear to death with his bare hands

>>384168127
yes like fallout 4 with swords

>>384169592
Which Todd and his team had nothing to do with

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>>384194954
Good joke

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>>384194496
Both my Nate and Nora are white with blonde hair. What gives?

>>384195072
The canon Nate and Nora are white. See pic related.

>>384195370
Those are general stores not bars

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Post more shaun

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>>384195745
Father is NOT Shaun.

The real Shaun was black because Nora was a slut.

>le todd is evil meme

You idiots realize he's just a dev and creative director under Zenimax's thumb, right?

>>384168482

'sup a-log

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>>384196375
>Deathclaw mating, Is it Real?

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What if I don't give a shit about settlements and just want a place to sell all the shit I bring back from the wasteland?

>>384196375
I see a nip.

>>384197028
Fucking racist piece of shit

>>384196915
Oh my.

>>384196915
>let him fuck you
>let him fuck you
>let him fuck you with angst
woooow and people said Fallout 4's choices were nothing

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>>384197134
Is there a Deathclaw sex mod yet

>want to replay Fallout 4
>and not quit halfway into the game this time

Are settlements forced on you or can you ignore them entirely throughout the whole game? Theres nothing I hate more about the gameplay than the shitty settlements system

>>384197497
If you pick anything but A you're a fucking casual

>>384198156
Finishing the plot almost certainly requires at least using the crafting system at some point, but other than that I think you can get away with not doing any settlements.

>>384198385
crafting I dont mind though I don't like it either but I dont want to babbysit a settlement thats all

>rpg codex shitters pretending fallout 3 wasnt trash as well and new vegas wasnt a steaming pile of shit

>>384196835
It wasn't Todd who decided New Vegas' QA was done halfway through. It wasn't Todd who planned the honeytrapping of multiple studios (some successfully) and it certainly wasn't Todd on stage this year at E3 trying to sell paid mods, no new Elder Scrolls, no Obsidian Fallout, a lot of crap no one cares about (and Wolfenstein, the one good announce they had) and getting pissy about it on Twitter like the world's worst PR guy. I don't know how many fingers are in each of those pies but the pattern is deep enough that the company culture is both a serious problem for them and one Todd and his team labor under just as much as any contractor who got stiffed on milestones.

>>384198786
FO3 was great, though.
NV is great as well for it's own reasons. Shame the fanbase is full of screaming pretentious autists.

>>384197516
I dunno, I don't have 4. If I see one working I just might buy it though.

>>384198786
>Implying anyone from RPGcodex likes fo3

Ha ha oh wow

>>384199124
I want to get brutally pounded by Deathclaw Alpha cocks sooo bad

>>384198786
you're aware that RPGcodex is butthurt to this day about FO3, right?

it was good

>>384199280
>it was good

No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78

>>384199848
How about you get your own opinion you vapid retard?

>>384171410

The kid was trapped in a fridge for 200 years, why in the hell were you the first one to find him, it was just out in the open. I could understand if it was under some rubble but it wasn't. Did no one before you walk by? Was he just asleep when everyone walked by?

How was he able to speak? I doubt he was just constantly talking to himself for 200 years. How come he didn't go insane from it? Even if he wasn't feral his mind should have shattered.

How did his legs and arms no atrophy after all that time? He should have been crippled and you had to wheel chair him around.

I don't even care about the not eating part.

>>384183854
just play modded new vegas instead

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>>384168127
Spend hours building walls, defenses, and arming my settlers. Give them good armor and place turrets all around. Gunners just spawn inside

>>384199848
>still posting that debunked trash video

10 years later, still just as butthurt.

>>384200346
>dubunked
>hour long video which most of the retards who disliked only played the first 5 seconds of and left
>debunked

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>>384200221

>>384200335
Imagine being this autistic.
I wished you worked in Bethesda.

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Anyone else have an organized collection of power armors in their comfy garage?

>>384200335
IT

JUST

WORKS

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>>384200509
>I wished you worked in Bethesda.
no, pls

Fallout 4 racememu/ECE when

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>>384200617

>>384200346
It's not so much debunked as the scant few worthwhile parts of it are flagrant plagiarism. You can tell because he rips off a point in MrBTongue's "The Shandification of Fallout", right down to the mistake in it.

>>384200451
>>hour long video which most of the retards who disliked only played the first 5 seconds of and left

Kinda like you obsidrones and FO3, right?

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>>384200770
literally more interesting visually than any " city " in the entire game

>>384200617
Man I wish I had even a quarter of your creativity. I kind of dug the settlement building and enjoyed making Sanctuary and the Fort look nice but my "nice" is like 5% of that. Even if you factor out any possible mods you are using.

>>384197516
Ah hello I remember you from the thread weeks ago

>>384201190
I dont know anyone by that name!

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>>384200867
Uh huh.

>>384200992
Yeah, that anon's work is most excellent. Those patches look...lived in. Cluttered. Messy in the way that unplanned but occupied human spaces naturally do. The clustering of the buildings, the neon lights fighting for travellers' attention.

Nothing in the game crosses that 'at a glimpse' threshold. If more of the game looked like that, and felt like what that look implies, I can almost guarantee my personal opinion of it, bad writing and lore rape aside, would be far higher.

>>384200770
Can these settlements be shared yet? I'd love to explore this one

>>384201376
I like how its sensible and doesn't use those ridiculous out of place white light boxes

>>384201294
That image is a (horribly misguided) attempt at debunking Shamus Young's summary of the problems with the ending of Fallout 3. It's not completely off topic, of course, because that vid ripped off Young's essay as well. It's still stupid for a lot of reasons which would require more effort to explain than I'm willing to give.

>>384200770
those stars are beautiful, is that the default skybox?

>>384170578
Use SIM Settlements

>>384201726
>I'm too good for you petty FO3fags

And you faggots wonder why you're the most hated fanbase on /v/ right up there next to console wars.

>>384201879
Does it change settlement building to RCT style contols?

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>>384200992
I don't really blame Bethesda, they scaled down alot of their cities because casuals were complaining in their forums that they were too big

>>384200335
did you do this
oh gosh im blushing

>>384198156
You'll be forced to pick up settlement quests if Preston manages to get close to you and starts talking.
Your settlement will get attacked and if you ignore it, some of your settlers will get killed or some of your buildings will get destroyed.

Other than that you can fully ignore settlement building.

>>384200335
how did you fix the bridge?

>>384177642
>>384177515
>>384177386
But... I like the way the FO4 ghouls look... They look plenty unique from one another to me.

>>384202278
Fucks sake.

What about an alternate start mod like this http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18946/?, where I don't even choose to play as a vault dweller, will Preston leave me alone then if I don't choose to encounter him in the town and I can bee free from settlement shit?

>>384194445
>hey you know this giant fucking wall thats surrounding us on all 5 sides of the building?
>yeah what about them
>dunno maybe we should store shit like generators that invaders tend to attack first somewhere BEHIND the walls

>>384202025
So THAT'S where Valve's playtesters went!

>>384202591
You're better off playing Fallout: FROST and forgetting the whole thing, if that's your issue

>>384201153
Those are not his settlements you fucking autists, look up the filename, those are being posted over and over in /vg/ threads

fuckin stupid simpleton

>>384201726
>*tips*

>>384168127
I won't be building any colonies in ES6 because if there are any colonies to build in it I won't buy it.

>>384202609
>Don't be stupid, Shamus. If we keep all our important shit inside, they'll think we're pussies.
>But, General...
>Nope, this is what we're doing.

>>384202828
I'll do that later, I want to just roam around the commonwealth and not have to bothered with settlements

>>384200335
>>384200493
>>384200770
>>384201243
>>384201667
Wtf man sanctuary is unrecognizable

>>384202852
Calm down your tits man. I dont visit the /vg/ threads and Im rarely in the other Fallout threads so that was the first time I had ever seen them.

Dont act like a child because you know something someone else doesnt

>>384201904
No. It would take a lot of time untangling the Matryoshka-doll layering of fallacies in it. The easiest solution is to simply go back and reread Young's original essay. In that light, none of those supposed refutations make a lick of sense. Some of them are crashing non-sequiturs on their face. I'll give you just three. It can be done to every single item.

>Made by James
That's not what 'no reason' means. Young (go back and read the essay if you need help) is referring not to efficient causality, 'the glass is on the floor because it landed there after it fell,' but teleological causality - 'the glass is on the floor because the person holding it let go of it to see if it could withstand the fall'. The purifier is a shitty solution to a problem that the game utterly fails to present as valid in the first place. It's a bad idea chasing after a problem that isn't really there.

>You just opened up the way. How THEY got past(...)
You see the problem with this line? Anon just admitted the thing the person was complaining about was in fact the case - there's no way they could have gotten there on the face of what the player is able to even potentially discover about how this environment works. It makes no sense.

>The flash grenade
What if the player's wearing power armor? Flash bangs (and most other similar denial-of-area weapons for that matter) are useless against it. By that point in the game you most likely would be. Bethesda forgets this for precisely this one scene.

This is why I'm not going any further. Refuting x number of lines of 'nuh uh' isn't worth my time. You holding it up as some kind of devastating refutation makes you look like an idiot.

>>384202865
HBomberguy is a content thief. It'll stop being true when the chinless wonder stops committing plagiarism.

>>384202591
You can just abandon sanctuary after the first quest if you want. There's a gas station right down the road to store your shit in with all the workbenches and power armor stuff you need.

>>384197028
I see you too, gaijin.

>>384202591
I don't think it's mandatory to save Preston and his leeching friends from the raiders.
You could just ignore them and head straight to Diamond City for the main quest and still have Sanctuary all to yourself.

>>384179273
Is this the new Fallout Online?

>>384168482
Wait a minute what would actually be wrong with that? Building shit in TES would be amazing. It beats buying those shitty houses that are pre-built.

I'd love to build a fortress to hold off imperial scum.

>>384204225
not him, but why do you NVfags always sperg out if somebody enjoys FO3 or thinks it's better than NV?

>>384204860
>No one has made FOnline3 yet
Come on Russia, what's the big idea?

>>384205198
BecAUSE NEW VEGAS IS THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME

ALL OF TIME

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>>384205175
>Building shit in TES would be amazing
it would be, but I don't trust bethesda to follow through on it

>>384204894
>Modding Community does settlements better than bethesda

>>384205493
BGS is fine; it's Zenimax you have to worry about.

>>384205175
They should have both options. I wish I could buy the diamond city house in fo4 and just spend caps buying pre-made decorations instead of taking 10 trips hauling lots of junk back and forth. Should be able to have a nice house without any bullshit.

>>384204894
Oh boy, something that can only be done with mods due to size limits and thr limited placements, also, just saying, theres no way the person who made this had the autism to collect the material for this, so he just spawned stuff in

>>384168482
Rememinds me of the Raven Rock quest line in morrowind

>>384205927
Doesn't matter how he did it what matters is that he did it really well

>>384206057
Ok I admit I wish I had the commitment to make something like this

>>384205915
They could make it more intuitive. Maybe give you blueprints to help design settlements or houses. Or just put you into a straight up The Sims style building.

>>384205927
The size limit can be lowered without any cheating or mods. You take weapons from the workbench, drop them on the ground and store them back. Each weapon you store lowers the size bar. You just repeat as much as you like.

>>384205927
>so he just spawned stuff in
duh

>>384205198
I made a comment about a bad video with provable cases of plagiarism being a bad video with provable cases of plagiarism. The other anon's irrelevant response was a dumb, often reposted, image that contains a bunch of pseudo-arguments about something only tangentially related that don't even properly understand the statements they're supposedly refuting. I point that out, he whines that I'm being unfair, so I oblige him to the extent that I am willing. That's not sperging out, that's being generous.

>>384206862
>obsidrone calling others pseudo-anything

You're the most pretentious fucks on this site.

>>384206743
Heard about that, might do it with my vault 88 on PS4, its getting close to full, and it only has 5 bedrooms including the overseer's bedroom
Also, do you need to connect the vault conduits to a power supply or do they work without it? Because I'm pretty sure I wasted alot of resources making conduots and wires from the starting reactor to the main part of the vault

>>384207145
That's it? You're just going to lie about what I said when it's right there, right above your post, for everyone to see you're lying? That's incredible. I didn't call anyone pseudo-anything. I called the arguments presented in the image pseudo-arguments because they're all fallacious. Either you lack basic reading comprehension or you are one insecure motherfucker.

>>384208064
>because they're all fallacious
>FO3 being shit is law and nobody can contradict me

Insecurity, you say?

All these naysayers who think ES6 won't have the colony system. This was confirmed prior to E3.

You'll make an imperial of your chosen race and are sent to one of the new continents. It just works.

>>384208064
Save it for /int/. You're on a videogame board talking to 15 year olds. Flaunting your intelligence here is expecting a fish to fly.

>>384209970
please do not bump your own posts

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>>384168482
Try it motherfucker

>>384210432
I want this armor in Fallout 4

>>384208318
I said the arguments in the image were fallacious. That, in itself, has nothing to do with Fallout 3's merits or lack of. Even if Fallout 3 was the most amazing game ever made, utterly flawless even, bad arguments and false claims made in its defense are still invalid.

>>384210714
Get a PC. Modded Fallout is the only way to play.

>>384211163
I know, I want this specific armor as a mod

Why couldn't the Fallout 4 settlement system be like the Tarrey Town quest in BotW

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>>384212084
>Why couldn't the Fallout 4 settlement system be like the Tarrey Town quest in BotW
It needs to be user friendly to extreme casuals

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>You can't just bring resources to your settlements and have the settlers decide where everything goes and when
>You have to micro manage absolutely EVERYTHING for them
Thats what killed settlements for me.

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>>384212725
I just wish that there was a weapon or armor crate that your settlers go to and arm up

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>>384200770
Only time i've been this autistic was when I built a moon base for the Starbound general server, along with NPC tenants. Haven't been struck with the 'tism since then.
This looks really nice; did you use the mod that expands building capacity?
Or are you just this good at managing resources?

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>>384213412
turn on god mode and you''ll have infinite building materials

>>384213148
If you give settlers one of every kind of ammo type and store an arsenal of weapons in the workbench they will grab the best weapon they can when attacked and upgrade as you go through the game getting better weapons.

>>384201294
Rockopolis is one room when you find it, though

unless someone made a mod that I haven't found