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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/630053/No-Man-Sky-Hello-Games-Reddit-Update-anniversary-Project-Waking-Titan-Sean-Murray
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1. No one will trust him ever again
2. How the fuck does Todd get to lie so bad but everyone still loves and believes him outside of /v/?
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Imagine having to continue to work on this game. What a fools errand.
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>>384149497
Bethesdas name carries weight, Todd has that behind him.
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>>384149497
Because people like Toddo's games even though they are not what was promised. (which is obvious if your brain is fully developed)
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>>384149497
Todd is a good ol' All-American boy. Sean Murray is the British villain.
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Just move on, sean. Everyone already hates you and nobody will care if you just quit and disappear.
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>>384149497
Todd doesn't laugh or smile showing his teeth, it's a weakness
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>>384149497
todd makes actual games for one.
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>>384149497
Todd's games can still be enjoyable and are usually only about 50% lies. Sean's game wasn't enjoyable and was 99.9% lies. The difference is simple
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>>384149351
Yeah, he really should.
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Why the fuck are you yelling at me telling me to apologize when nothing has been done to justify that apology
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What can they do to get you to play this game? I dont even think multiplayer can save it honestly.
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>>384149497
Todd have never lied my friend
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NMS is a very comfy game, I don't get all the hate. I don't even know what that bearded man with nice feet said, I just enjoy spaceshipping around.
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>>384149497
Because Todd doesn't lie that much.
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>>384150495
We all know Todd doesn't know weakness
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>>384150886
it's nice that you're enjoying your own game, Sean
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>>384150805
If they make it like the first time they showed it, id play it.
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>>384150886
kill yourself
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>>384151007
My name's Carol.

>>384151072
Keep yourself safe too babe.
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>>384149497
>Much more confident in his lies
>Corporate structure protects him, Todd speaks out a lot but most people don't really know him, Sean was the face of NMS and was always promoting it live and off the cuff
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>>384150886
>I don't get all the hate
For months Sean did interviews saying that No Mans Sky was going to have multiplayer and going to have some massively huge secret at the center of the universe
The game ended up having no multiplayer, and no secret at the center. The two biggest things he promised about the game were flat out lies.
And he never even admitted the lie and apologized when it became obvious he lied. Two streamers "met" each other in game by going to the exact same spot and figuring out there was no multiplayer. Seans reaction to this was "WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GUYS MET EACH OTHER ALREADY, OUR GAME IS AMAZING!"
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Shit I apologise for the gaming having the content it promised at launch maybe being released a year later
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literally made tons of cash
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>>384151893
So people willingly listened to interviews and are enraged that he was hyping the shit out of it?
Truly shocking how you mouthbreathers manage to function.
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>>384149351
Good on them for still supporting the game I guess. I really thought they would just take the money and run with it.

Still it's not going to undo the damage that little Sean has done.
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>>384149351
>ARG shit
>apologize
I respond like they did to concerns on release. yes, this was a thing.
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Oh is the outrage over outside of /v/? Took long enough.

Enough time passes, and people will forget everything. Remember #Fuckonami? People forgot that real quick once Bomberman came out for the switch, and Castlevania was praised on Netflix.

Don't get mad - just be like Sean. Make tons of money, disappear for a while, and you'll be great.
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>>384151186
>my name's Carol
Didn't know you were transgendered, Sean. That's nice.
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>>384151893
Not to mention there's no universe at all, just a bunch of galaxies set side by side in unorganic fashion. Such a shit game. The skyboxes are just that too; Skyboxes. All that "look at the sky! you can see the galaxies you can go!" is a lie. And I don't even remember if there is any star you can get near but IIRC you there isn't.

>>384152064
Hyping your game is very, very different than outright lying.
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>>384152439
more like no one fucking knows what #Fuckonami even is, everyone and their mothers know sean tho
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>>384152064
>Developper says [thing] is gonna be in game when it comes out
>[thing] isn't in game when it comes out
>"woahhh you mouthbreathers why would you have expected [thing] to be in the game??
I truly really hope you work for Hello games, because if you don't this is some next level corporate cocksucking.
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Maybe they should have just waited another year before they released it
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>>384150994
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>>384152064
>Hyping the game is the same as flat out lies
He said numerous times that multiplayer was going to be in the game, in several different interviews. That's not hyping, that's promising a feature. He did the same with saying there was a huge secret at the center, which there was not.

Also I didn't even buy the game, because it was obvious from the beginning that he was a lying con man.
>You see how the sky is red?
>We actually changed the periodic table on an elemental level to change how the environment works for different planets!
I mean come the fuck on. I'm convinced Sean is a pathological liar who gets off on this shit
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>>384152659
Unknown devs can't just say 'we'll release when it's done' when they spend other people's money.
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>>384149351

Whats up with this website you linked me to, OP?
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>>384151893
did he really say there was going to be full blown multiplayer ? I remember reading a reddit comment when asked if it was singleplayer only he said there would be some functionality regarding other players. (which is true)
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>>384149351
How hard was it for them to get an interview? Did they appear at the same time as Murray but couldn't see him?
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>>384152595

Exactly - this is perfect. People are starting to forget the anger sparked from Konami's and Kojima's dispute. It is only a matter of time before favor goes back to Konami if they keep releasing things like Castlevania on Netflix.

No Man's Sky's issues will be forgotten as well. It has already begun.
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>>384149497
Because most of bethesda games are good
Skyrim was legitimately a great game
Only fallout 4 and tes 4 were awful
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>>384152927
damn thats some quality clickbait. i dont see any ads so i cant see them.
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>>384153084
remember spore? everyone remember, just like everyone will remember about sean in 10 years
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>>384152160
I can forgive him, if he makes thousands of NPC's factions, quests, items, guns, enemies, etc.

basically, he'd have to make it into an actual game. But I'm down for round 2 if they ever included all those features. Don't have to populate the entire game, but you do have to make it seem like there is content.
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>>384153097
Hello rebbit
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Now I can walk around aimlessly, but with a mech.
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>>384153084
No Man's Sky issues will be forgotten because No Man's Sky wil be forgotten as a whole, issues and all.
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>>384153197
yet EA still keeps on chugging, that anon is right dude. Hate to agree but he is speaking absolute truth.
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>>384152927
its the fucken star lad
wouldn't wipe my arse with it
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>>384153201
>I can forgive him if he makes it 'seem' like there is more content, and i will buy it.
Get the fuck off this board, right now.
I refuse to share a board with a moron such as you.
Leave, now.
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>>384152984
>did he really say there was going to be full blown multiplayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVrDaudzn64

He says it across multiple interviews. And tries to brush it off as "You can meet other players, BUT OUR UNIVERSE IS SO MASSIVELY HUGE THE CHANCE OF IT IS TINY"
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>>384149497
>Promises 10/10 game
>Delivers 7.5/10

Versus

>Promises 9/10 game
>Delivers 2/10 game

Really toasts the almonds.
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>>384153084
>No Man's Sky's issues will be forgotten as well. It has already begun.
Except Sean will never be forgotten. If he ever makes another game again, or starts working on one, people will immediately start warning others "This is the guy who lied about everyone in no mans sky"
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>>384153372
no man's sky is NOWHERE near a 7.5 you retard

and skyrim is a bit higher than 2 what the fuck is wrong with you
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How come no one has uploaded GoG pathfinder update yet? Where can i find the update or the full game up to date? gog version?
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>>384153372
>Skyrim
>7.5/10
Mmmhh...
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>>384153350
I didn't say 'seem' you buffoon, your words. Read the sentence again.
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>>384153532
>>384153532
You're right. 8/10 is more accurate
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>>384149497
I can't add elf dickgirls to No Man's Sky.
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>>384153351
wow. he goes into full autism speech pattern when he is outright lying as well lol.
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>>384153668
7.5 seems fair, 8 is pushing it.
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>>384153351
The clever thing about it is that he never explicitly says that there is multiplayer, just that you can 'feel the presence' of other players and 'get a sense that there are other people playing'. It's pretty fucking sneaky really.
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>>384153197

That game came out a long time ago - enough for a new generation to not even know what is without looking it up.

It's just the way things are. It's just the way time works. Playing the long game.
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>>384152927
It's a yourope site, not a burger one. We aren't that afraid of nekkid women.
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>>384150886
people's expectations were just too high. no idea even why. from the first trailer you could see that it would just an open world space sandbox game with not much to do. but i guess it's okay for what it is.
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>>384149351
Asking because I'm genuinely curious. How hard would it have been for help games to implement all of the features they said they would?

I know multiplayer wouldn't have been so hard since eve already has it. What about the massive space fights? And differen fanctions?
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>>384153608
You must be retarded.
>>384153201
>"but you do have to make it seem like there is content."
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>>384150886
>comfy
Not this shit again...

Anyway, the problem with NMS is that throughout development, Sean lied through his teeth about what was going to be in the game. The biggest snafu he got caught on was the multiplayer bit about how you were playing solo but if you somehow, by a supposedly astronomically slim chance, find yourself on the same planet, in the same spot as another player who was online, you'd be able to see them in your game as well. He said that even if you were trying to, it would take years before somebody managed it. Then two twitch streamers pulled it off in just a few hours and nothing. Instead of admitting the lie, Sean just "oh sorry that must be a glitch due to server issues. Don't worry, well patch it." The patch came quickly and the streamers tried again but with the same result. Sean also promised massive space battles with warring factions "once again, stating that you could encounter other players fighting for one side or the other and you could ally yourself with different factions. Also something that has never been found in the game. These are probably the two most egregious examples but the lies don't stop there and to this day, I don't recall Sean owning up to a single thing. Let's also not forget about that "mind blowing" secret at the center of the galaxy and how long it would take even a beelining player to get there.

We need to stop supporting and excusing this kind of behavior in developers. It's one thing to say you plan to put something in your game and then not deliver but to outright claim it's a definite feature you already have, even when the game comes out when it simply isn't there is just inexcusable. All Sean did was sell a promise and it was one he flat out broke.
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>>384153752
gtfo sean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
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>>384153784
That's what I love about the money making opportunities in video games, you don't have to make it good, you just have to make it sell. And since most people are fuck wits and tend to worship games rather then those who create them, names will be forgotten. Wait till the latest batch of idiots finishes grade school and then do it again. 4 to 8 year cycle.
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>>384150886
Dunno, I would buy it for 10 bucks I guess. Thing is they still charge full 60 Euroshekels for it and it just isn't worth that much.
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>>384153752
He explicitly said you could see and meet other players in game but that the universe was so vast that it was very unlikely to happen.

Within 24 hours of the game's release two players found the exact same planet and went to the exact same location but couldn't see each other and there was no indication of the other player in game.
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>>384153448

Many people outside of sites like this won't care. The casuals. They'll buy anything new, as there are always new people.

And if he waits 10 years, even most of the people complaining here will be gone. Just look at spore. Outside of a few people in this thread, most don't know about the game or its issues. In 10 years many people will have moved on. This is all assuming he bothers to make a new game after all the money made.
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>>384154221
That would be you, a smarter man, a more internet savvy person wouldn't have even replied.
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>>384154245
Are those twins?
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>>384154110
>people's expectations were just too high. no idea even why.
because Sean repeatedly stated those features would be in the game. It's not like purple were making up these "What if it had THIS feature" ideas on there own. They thought it would be there because Sean SAID MULTIPLE TIMES that they would be there.
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>>384154110
The final game did not match the expectations set by the first trailer, which implied there was a lot more to do than just mining rocks for minerals and trading. Almost nothing is accurately represented in the first gameplay trailer.
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>>384154242
like almost every company ever?
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>>384154313

Yes. I wish I had the technical prowess to exploit this, but I do not fault those that do. Because ultimately even if I complain, so what? There are other customers to easily replace me.
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>>384153752
He fucks up several times though. If you watch the full Colbert interview he specifically says you can only know what your character looks like if someone tells you
>Oh, so can you see, can you interact with other players?
>Yes
There's several interviews where he confirms that multiplayer is a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
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>mfw Sean still hadnt showed up in public

hot damn it really got to him I bet every night he goes to sleep thinking "they will see they will all see"
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>>384154592
Most companies do not lie this blatantly. I can't think of any major company that talks about multiplayer features pre release only to just have it missing in the actual game without the company ever addressing it.
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>>384150850
>scratched out T
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>>384154549
>>384154110
It's like if Bethesda came out and said "The next iteration of TES will be a fantastic world of fps/tps fighting with some brand new skills, crafting, and great quests" and it turns out to be the most boring and rudimentary card game ever
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>>384153084
t. Sean
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>>384154592
The difference is most companies know where to draw the line. Bullshots are one thing, but flat out promising major features like multiplayer just to not include them in the game is another
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>>384149351

Post yfw you didn't fall for the Nu-Male's Lies
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>>384154242
I remember reading there wasn't even any multiplayer code in the source when mined
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>>384154807
It's not so much that, If it's something new they want to fuck over the consumer with, they say shit like "additional features include". That's how all that DLC shit came about. (Barely anyone outside of /v/ seems to acknowledge this)
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>>384150328
Hes irish
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>>384154924
no, its like bethesda came out and said next tes would have multiplayer but it didnt
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>Make a minecraft 2.0
>Expects people to not care about multiplayer
NMS is a joke
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>>384149351
>4K VERSION
Calling it now. It's not going to be anything but a 4k version
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>>384149351
>Fans might not have to wait much longer for the No Man's Sky update 1.3.
This game has fans?
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>>384151186
Show me your feminine benis.
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>>384155108
>It's not so much that,
But that's exactly what we're talking about.

>If it's something new they want to fuck over the consumer with, they say shit like "additional features include".
Name one company that has said this, and then not included those features.
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>>384149351
>no mans sky
literally forgot it existed
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>Its another /v/ thinks they knows shit about how video game developement works
You clueless fucks dont know shit about the process, how long it takes, risk management or anything.
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>>384149351
>make early access game
>release it "done" for 60

wew lad why are you mad?
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>>384154994
There's plenty of games that have promised features that were never included or even removed later on. Hell nowadays there's even games that don't ever get finished no matter how much money people throw at them.
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>>384155524
apparently sean doesnt know this either
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>>384155647
>There's plenty of games that have promised features that were never included

Name five.
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>>384155684
Video game developement is unpredictable, you do know that they can aspire to have all the features that sean mentioned but have to cut a few before shipping the game?
Do you and everyone in this thread even think about this sort of stuff?
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>guys our game will be awesome, the story fantastic and the visuals will be amazing
>here take a look at our scripted trailer and pictures after a little photoshop touchup

thats "ok" now and (sadly) kinda expected. Not only from vidya, but from like every commercial ever.

>hey guys our game will have feature X and Y
>game never has these features

Thats no ok, thats just a fucking lie and far from the already low standard of the industry.
Maybe, MAYBE, they planned to implement those features but it looks more like that guys desperatly continued to claim everything would be in it because he did not wanted to admit that there were problems in front of any interviewer.

I'm glad I'm not interested in those sandbox / vision games, they seem to attract the biggest idea guy idiots (see also: Star Citizen).
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>>384155524
>the process, how long it takes, risk management or anything.
What risk? There was no process, it didn't take anything because the functionality never existed.
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>>384155907
See
>>384155904
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Motherfucker didn't even have to give us multiplayer. I expected X2 Albion Prelude with planetary landings and exploring. Multiplayer is the last thing I cared about. Sean couldn't even provide that. Then again, elite dangerous promised something similar and I have yet to see results. Star Citizen has a lot of the first person shooter/space sim stuff I want, but who knows when that will come together. Hate how shitty this genre is at the moment. Even the indie/AA dudes suck. (looking at you everspace... starpoint gemini)

just shit as far as the eye can see.
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>>384149351
>another useless thing no one asked for

lmao like fucking base building
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>>384155904
If a feature gets cut, you can still say it got cut. Even hire some PR dude to come up with reasons for it that sound good. He continued to talk shit though instead of admitting those things got cut or were never implemented in the first place.
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>>384155904
whatever you say sean, i bet you didnt know till the release if this game will have multiplayer or not, development is that unpredictable, dont forget you claimed literally day before release that nms will have a multiplayer
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>>384149497
1. Todd has actual charisma
2. Bethesda games are actually enjoyable to the wider public, even if they don't have promised features
3. Mods
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>>384155904
>>384156069
That doesn't excuse not telling anyone those features were "cut" up through the game's release.

Do you ever consider that you're just rationalizing to deflect any fault from the developers?
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>>384156203
>Todd has actual charisma
zozzle on the roof
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>>384155773
Not that dude but, Halo 2, Banjo Kazooie, Skyrim, Mass Effect, Saints Row 3.
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>>384156132
Thats because people are going to twist and turn his words, No matter what they say they will be ripped to peices by an angry mob
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>>384155904
If your game's development is so unpredictable you somehow don't even know what features the game will have even when the game's about to come out, you shouldn't be in game development.
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>>384156226
Do you even know how bad / embarrassing it is to admit something like that?
As I said before on the internet these days words get twisted to the point that people forgot what you originally said
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>>384155127
That is still British, depending on which part of Ireland he's from.
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>>384156315
None of those games promised significant features before release that were never included and never addressed.
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>>384155773
I don't want to bother. You can probably easily just google some clickbait top 10 list if you're that curious.
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>>384156315
>Saints Row 3.
?
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>>384156419
What are deadlines. Granted I agree with you, especially since that retard just rambled on for a year with shit they knew they couldn't do. But the fact they did want to implement those features is probably true.
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>>384149351

>Running head-first into another Hello Games disappointment

Ok buckaroo. You do that.
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>>384155904
>Video game developement is unpredictable, you do know that they can aspire to have all the features that sean mentioned but have to cut a few before shipping the game?
He still talked about the multiplayer 2 days before the game shipped. When he already knew he was outright lying and when the physical game already got cover stickers on the network play 'icon'.
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>Buy Bloodborne 2 after seeing the trailer which was basically the original game amped up to 11
>put in disc
>its a top down shooter
>8 bit graphics
>can only be controlled with the wii conga drums
>1 hour of content

Doesn't matter guys, making a game is hard and sometime unpredictable
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>>384156513
Depends on who you talk to as well. Not arguing that it isn't. Meet as many people that claim Ireland isn't British. For an island nation it seems like those faggots are divided as fuck, for like no reason.
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Too late, everyone has moved on. Should have delayed the game until it was ready instead of going around marketing with lies.
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>>384156607
except there are no network code in binaries at all, you cant remove it just like that, that game was never developed with multiplayer in mind
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Why cant a good space exploration game be made? Is it impossible?
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>>384156523
Halo 2 only had two earth missions in the final game, no mongoose made it, no new driving mechanics, melee combos didnt make it, etc. Not going down the list for each one because you're retarded.
>>384156604
Free shooting mechanic.
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I think Sony is as much to blame as Hello Games even more maybe, what kind of retards try to overhype an indie game promising it's going to best thing ever? I'm all for No Man's Sky improving with updates though
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>>384156343
How can a fucking yes or no answer be twisted? It either HAS multiplayer or it has not. That dude is just a retard and nothing more. He claimed it even when it was blatantly clear that this feature was not in.
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>>384156829
Can you actually get away with this? Alternative facts seem to work well within the news media. Fuck it, why hasn't this concept been applied to games?
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>>384156782
It would've been nice if he said ''I had to cut online from the final game because we couldnt get it working''
Its not like they didint put stickers on it saying it was singleplayer only
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>>384156607
>What are deadlines
Not an excuse. If you can't make the deadline to implement a feature, you tell people -before the deadline passes- that the feature is getting cut.

>But the fact they did want to implement those features is probably true.
And also irrelevant. Saying you wished your game had those features isn't an excuse to tell people your game is going to have them, you have to show at least some intent that you're working towards those features, and even then you're still responsible for admitting you won't be able to do it.
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>>384157090
As are consumers who buy things based on the advertising alone.
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>>384156993
>Free shooting mechanic.
what does that mean?
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>>384156982
I'm not the anon debating with you about multiplayer or whatever buddy.
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>>384156507
fuck off sean, no one here likes you or your shit game
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>>384156885
SCOTLAND ITS NOT A REAL COUNTRY, HE IS A ENGLISH MAN WHIT A DRESS.
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>>384157361
John woo style combat.
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>>384156507
That'd still be much better for their image than not addressing the issue at all, which is the main reason people got pissed off.

The game was mined for any kind of multiplayer-related content and nothing was found. Normally, cut features, particularly big ones like multiplayer, tend to have something in the game to indicate that they existed at some point.
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I dont hate sean murray and i dont hate no mans sky. It was an ok little game. Nothing spectacular by any means but just ok.
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>>384157548
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>>384157474
>>384157548
It's so obvious in hindsight.
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>>384157407
It's comments like that, confusing. Why not become one nation? Just one giant island nation.
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Just watch, sean will be praised for that shit for delivering a small percent od promised features as "free dlc" despite the millions of lies
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>>384157234
Games fail to meet deadlines all the time. I'm not using it as an excuse to justify them lying retard, just the reason why things wouldn't be remotely finished.
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Eh I just pirate the GoG release.

It's good for pictures nd shit.
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>>384157474
>>384157548
>>384157612
can't even look that guy into the eye when he says those lies
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>>384157616
It was obvious before the game released as well. In EVERY interview he does when multiplayer is brought up he giggles and has a shit eating grin as he confirms multiplayer. He knew from the start they were never working on it.
Also the game got leaked early and datamined with no multiplayer data at all
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>>384157163
>>384157163
>claimed it even when it was blatantly clear that this feature was not in.
It was possible that it was worked on but was cut from the final, if you dont want to accept that then Im done
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>>384154050
>We aren't that afraid of nekkid women.
Then why your birth rate is dropping?
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>>384157697
its like a year since release, where is that multiplayer dlc? they had whole fucking year, where is it?
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If it aint giant sand worms this time, just dont bother.
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>>384155904
Here's a list of missing features with citations from from interviews for 4chan's favorite boogeyman site.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/4y1h9i/wheres_the_no_mans_sky_we_were_sold_on_a_big_list/
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>>384156993
>Halo 2 only had two earth missions in the final game, no mongoose made it, no new driving mechanics, melee combos didnt make it, etc.
Bungie never said that Halo 2 was going to be mostly earth missions. They never advertised these things or claimed they would be in the game days before it released.

We discovered unfisnished assets and levels after the game released, not because the devs claimed it would have it before. There's a difference between cut content and mechanics that are proven to exist verses mechanics that are never shown with no evidence that it ever existed despite the devs continuously saying it would be in the game. You're conflating the two because you're retarded.

>Not going down the list for each one because you're retarded.
You're not going down the list because you're just bullshiting like the retard you are.
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>>384155105
I captured all the data in under 10 minutes that was being sent in and out. It was only making DB queries and entries, no other data. It was pretty obvious there was no multiplayer. I linked my analysis to them on twitter. INSTANT BLOCK, it was pretty funny.
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>>384156507
Almost as bad and embarrassing as releasing a game with missing features you said it would have.

If you can't include a feature you said the game would have, the onus is on YOU to admit it won't be in the final game.

>As I said before on the internet these days words get twisted to the point that people forgot what you originally said
That's not what actually happened though. Again stop deflecting from Sean's lies.
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>Reddit fans discovering a secret video and website suggesting something BIG is coming next week.
I'm glad all twelve of them will enjoy the update.
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>>384156607
>But the fact they did want to implement those features is probably true.

Multiplayer was never intended ever. The game doesn't in any possible way on any platform have any possibility of real time multiplayer. Just DB entries, that's it. It doesn't have the ability to do anything else anywhere in it's code.
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I just fail to see what they could add to make it better. The game is a pointless slog for absolutely no reason. Theres just nothing, infinite nothing.
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>>384158410
>twelve
They should combine forces with Battleborn players.
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>>384157191
Kinda happened with Brutal Legend it was pretty much exclusively marketed as an action adventure game but EA didn't not even acknowledge the RTS elements that it had.
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>>384156343
>Thats because people are going to twist and turn his words,
Nobody did that though.

If you're afraid of having your words twisted then hire PR like every other company.
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>>384156556
In other words there aren't plenty of games that have promised features that were never included

Thanks for clearing this up.
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>>384157902
>blatantly clear that this feature was not in
Oh course it was, thats why a week after release people were still debating if it had multiplayer.
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This is how many people play NMS right now
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>>384157902
Why should anyone accept that when there's literally no evidence of the feature ever even existing?
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PR is never very honest, and it can be incredibly scripted at times. Publishers and marketing teams meddle too much. Murray might have been required by some in-studio consensus to discuss planned features as absolutes, even if his team didn't realistically have enough time to implement said features before the game was rushed to launch.

Remember what happened with Core and their flagship franchise Tomb Raider. Although the company was small in the beginning, new staff were constantly being introduced to the franchise, and its progenitors quickly lost creative control. Marketing became a whole other entity and represented the series as something completely different from what its creators intended.
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>>384150886
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>>384158753
Thats nearly as many as friday the 13th
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>>384157697
When game developers fail to meet deadlines for features like multiplayer, they either delay the game or come out and say it's going to be cut from the game weeks in advance before it released. Sean was still talking about the game's supposed multiplayer even after the game went gold.

>I'm not using it as an excuse to justify them lying retard,
But several posts in this reply chain are retard >>384155904 >>384155524
Those are the posts I was originally responding to.
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>>384149497
bad content > no content
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>>384159129
Can I ask you something anon?
Have you ever worked on a video game before?
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>>384158867
If you can't admit your game is missing features that you said it would have, even through PR, you fucked up.
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>>384159287
have you?
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>>384149497
Todd is a charismatic liar. We all know he's full of shit, but he still seems like a cool guy. He's a family man, and he knows how to laugh at himself. Sean Murray is just a slimy bastard who looked people in the eye and lied to them without a twinge of guilt.
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>>384157407
Is that a tf2_ reference?
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>>384159382
You haven't? do you even know whats involved with making a video game?
Compared to a movie or a book?
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>>384159287
How is that relevant?
Or are we going down the "you can't complain about burnt toast if you're not a chef" line.

If I told my boss my project was going to have so and so, then delivered it to him with those things missing without even admitting it you bet your ass I would be fired.
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>>384159719
not that guy but I have been involved with making video games and I think you're a retard

if something doesn't work and you're approaching a deadline, you either delay or cut it, and that's how every company in the biz does it
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>>384159129
>several posts
>not mine
>responds to mine
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>>384158318
I think this is the worst part about the whole thing. They refuse to even acknowledge they lied or cut features and Sean was always extremely vague even after release. Even the grandfather of overhyping your game Peter Molyneux has admitted his mistake for shit like Fable.
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>>384159719
do you know how multiplayer games are made? of course you dont, you never made one , sean. multiplayer games are build from beginning around network code, you cant add it just like that, you are retarded
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>>384158867
>Murray might have been required by some in-studio consensus to discuss planned features as absolutes, even if his team didn't realistically have enough time to implement said features before the game was rushed to launch.

That's a lot of baseless conjecture without a whole lot of evidence. All to just deflect the blame from Murray.
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>>384158283
No the mongoose was announced, so was melee combos, so was the new driving mechanics you underage retard. The earth missions were in the trailers made to seem like the majority of the game, in fact the level from the trailer DOESN'T EXIST.
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>>384159892
>you either delay or cut it, and that's how every company in the biz does it
Missing deadlines looks bad, you would know that if you werent just some modder chimp
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>>384159859
There is a difference between a chef and a video game development process
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>>384160454
Missing deadlines does look bad, but that's just what happens sometimes you nigger. It's a lot better than releasing a game that's obviously not done like NMS.
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>>384160574
It's called an analogy dumb-ass. The same logic applies.
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>>384149351
You morons realise it was sony's fault if NMS was terrible.
You can't port a PC game on bad hardware.
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>>384160881
Except it was unstable on all platforms
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>>384160881
more like you cant make a multiplayer game if you dont use network code
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>>384160742
It doesn't when its a shit analogy, especially when making a cake is easier than making a game feature
Even a sewer dwelling chimp would know that
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>>384152927
Link 2 the nude boxin pls
anon plz
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>>384159935
I responded to several posts arguing over game development, you jumped in after and continued the same line of argument
We're fucking anonymous dude, i'm not going to assume every single person making the same argument in the same reply chain is a completely different person.
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>>384161107
heres a better analogy, nms is like a car without an engine
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>>384160158
>All to just deflect the blame from Murray.

That's how it is with development teams. The team is one entity. Just because Murray represented the project to the general public doesn't mean he's responsible for every decision made by consensus of the team.
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>>384161530
except his team didnt force him to lie
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>>384161107
>especially when making a cake is easier than making a game feature
That has nothing to do with the analogy you spastic retard.
The point of the analogy is that "you can't say [X] is bad unless you make [X] for a living" is not a valid argument against criticism
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>>384157689
I already saw it happening in some comments around the internet. It's disgusting.
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>>384160454
You know what else looks bad? Confirming features that do not exist in game 2 days before your launch
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>>384160997
the PC version was the same as the PS4's so of course it was unstable. Sony/M$ can't allow the PC version of thoses multiports being superior, console peasant would lose sleep over it.

Just look at TW3, same shit as NMS. And the list goes on.

Sean took the bullet for sony because he was paid to. And it worked.
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>>384160454
>Missing deadlines looks bad
So is lying about your game's features
>you would know that if you werent just some modder chimp
Nice ad hominem
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>>384149497
Can anyone please explain what Todd has lied about? I honest to fucking god don't know and no one has ever answered me.
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>>384161772
who paid for the stickers on the covers? sean or sony?
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>>384149351
*Goes to Seans house"
>Me: "H-hey Sean, I came to apologise..."
>Sean: "That's ok mate! All is forgiven. Give us a hug!"
>Me: "Ok, where are you though?!"
>Sean: "I am in the kitchen, where are you?!"
>Me: "I am in the kitchen too! I can't see you"
>Sean: "It's, uhhh... it's a big kitchen. You might never meet anyone else in it..."
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>>384161985
10/10
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>>384149497
because Todd often tells half-truths
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>>384161772
What's wrong with the witcher 3? Are you pissed the game didn't release with movie fillters?
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procedural generation is not content!!!!!!!
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>>384161924
nice try Todd
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>>384161937
sony. my point.
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>>384153520
Gog.com
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>>384162208
pissed at the piss poor graphics and notably the fucking baked lighting.
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>>384161530
Sean Murray was game director and is ultimately responsible not only for the decisions made by his team but also his own words and how he falsely represented the game to the public.
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>>384162232
sony had no control over nms production, they didnt even knew if it had multi or not. sean lied, they believed it, but its all sony's fault? fuck off sean
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>>384161305
No Man's Sky is the Freedom scene from the last episode of Neon Genesis Evangelion
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>>384154373
That moment was hilarious in hindsight

>We have 325709832590238432 combinations of planets!
>Psssst, yeah, like two players will ever meet each other. It's impossible with a universe SO vast and varied! You could see them if you were on the same planet but that would take like..a thousand years to happen
>"Sean, two players have just met on the same planet on the first day! What do we do?"
>I..uhh..err....what?!
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>>384161985
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>>384162512
>sony had no control over nms production
>being that naive
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>>384160339
>No the mongoose was announced, so was melee combos, so was the new driving mechanics
And when those things didn't make it into the final game, Bungie didn't continue to pretend and insist they were still in the game right before it released you underage retard. And unlike the supposed multiplayer features of NMS, there is proof that the mongoose and new mechanics exist and were actively worked on before getting cut. So Halo 2 and NMS are not comparable.

>The earth missions were in the trailers made to seem like the majority of the game, in fact the level from the trailer DOESN'T EXIST.

This is a fucking reach and you know it. Showing ONE earth mission in an E3 trailer does not mean they made it seem like the majority of the ggame was going to play on earth. And you're flat out wrong, the level on from the trailer does exist in a technically playable state even though it wasn't included in the final game. It was clearly unfinished and heavily on rails
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>there are people who defend Sean

Every fucking time. Same defense too.

>m-muh game development is hard :(
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>>384162759
stickers are a proof you fucking liar
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>>384160574
You still haven't explained how "Have you ever worked on a video game before?" is relevant to Sean lying about his own game
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>>384162342
>fucking half baked lighting

It's a fucking game. It needs different lighting to what you would see in footage because vidya needs decent contrast to be able to explore environments effectively.

TW3 has anything but shitty graphics. And the PC version is vastly superior.

Have you considered that you spend so much time complaining and having it resonate in an echobox that you have lost your ability to enjoy anything?
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>>384162889
>stickers are a proof you fucking liar
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>>384162830
those people dont exists, its sean himself
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>>384161135

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/623892/Naked-TV-presenters-nude-hosts-boxing-show-public-Beach-Battle?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain
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>>384161924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4
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>>384163176
>TW3 has anything but shitty graphics.
>And the PC version is vastly superior.
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>>384163236
nice memes sean, but no one will ever believe you anymore
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>>384163604
what I say makes actual sense, unlike you.
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>>384163410
cute dog
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>>384149351
fucking Everspace is better, and you don't even land on a planet
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>>384163781
no it doesnt, sony had no control over sean, and you cant prove that. sean is a retard who cant code, game runs like shit only because of him, not sony
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>>384162992
Thats your echo chamber opinion that he lied though
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While on the topic of crowd funded space sims, I just started playing Elite Dangerous and I'm using an old Microsoft Sidewinder to fly my ship. Should I shell out for an Xbox controller?
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>>384164546
So No Man's Sky does have multiplayer? Go hone Sean, you're drunk.
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>>384164546
>Thats your echo chamber opinion that he lied though
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>>384164739
First off I have been over that before
Second the UK advertising standards ruled that there was no misleading advertising.
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the sad thing is people will still fall for a it and give him money.

anyone remember boycott modern warfare 2? or boycot l4d2?
same shit in essence. people dislike something and vow to not partake but then break their "promise" the second they get the chance.
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>>384164914
UK advertising standards don't cover developer interviews
Their investigation was based on whether screenshots on the steam store page accurately represented the game or not.
Sean demonstrably lied about his game, calling it a "echo chamber opinion" is just shitposting.
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i wish someone could get hold of the financial statement of NMS company. I bet they made a killing with console sales. Yea steam refunds might have been a lot, but console players just got fucked, and sean is a millionaire now
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>>384165228
sean was already a trust fund babby before the game came out
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>Video game development is hard and unpredictable

>Therefore video game developers are not culpable for lying about their game or any other wrongdoing

>It's embarrassing to miss deadlines so devs don't have to tell people they cut content they said would be in the game

>It's just your opinion that he lied

>If I call it an echo chamber that means it's wrong
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>>384164007
problems facing reality son?
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>>384149351
Honestly? If he drops the price down to around $15-$20 I'll consider making a purchase. He's trying to redeem himself, and I can admire that. Even though there was a rough launch he kept with it, and i think the guy may be learning from his mistakes. Never overhype a game. Give it just enough hype to keep people interested, but never overhype a game. Then again that's with my opinion being that people should play Game Dev Tycoon as a prerequisite to becoming a game developer. Take it however you like I suppose.
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>>384166049
>creates conspiracy theory
>thinks its a reality
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>>384149497
Why would you trust someone on the internet? Why would you trust someone that isn't right in front of you, in the material world? I don't understand this line of thought. People should not trust what they hear on the internet or television blindly and should verify whether the facts are correct or not from an unbiased source. Most people have an agenda that is counter to the pursuit of truth, so really very few humans should be trusted at all under any circumstance.
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>>384153097
>Because most of bethesda games are good
>Skyrim was legitimately a great game
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>>384166496
So what you're saying is Sean Murray doesn't exist.
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>>384150886
You're allowed to like what you like, and that's great. People are allowed to form their own opinions, their tastes and what not, and I'm glad you enjoy that game. I hope to enjoy it myself if the price drops. I'm poor so I have to limit how much I spend on video games and other luxuries. Have a good day anon.
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>>384166639
when you compare it to nms its a masterpiece
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>>384149351
NICE VIRAL MARKETING FAGGOT!
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>>384166639
Obligatory morrowfags
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>>384166675
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. If anything what you're saying is counter to what I am saying. What I'm saying is that you should take what information you receive on the internet with a grain of salt, as anyone could be pushing an agenda that is counter to the narrative of the overall pursuit of truth. In fact I would consider that you take what I say with a grain of salt as well, as that's only fair as I can't be partial to what I am saying.
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>>384158753
>mfw even NMS has even more players then Battleborn
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>>384166675
>Sean is such a liar that he lied about him existing in the first place

Thats some deep shit
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>>384150886
This post and all of its replies just gave me some serious ass Spore nostalgia. Thank you for this.
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>>384166937
How do you know it's there if you don't see it? Why would you trust something exists that isn't right in front of you, in the material world? If anything what I'm saying is agreeing to what you are saying.
> In fact I would consider that you take what I say with a grain of salt as well, as that's only fair as I can't be partial to what I am saying.
So you can't be trusted. Got it.
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>>384149351
so they're pulling a Terraria. everyone will love NMS in 2 years
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Nms is good if you have some dank ass weed.
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>>384166937
>Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there
thanks sean, no i understand how multiplayer works in your game
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>>384149497
>2. How the fuck does Todd get to lie so bad but everyone still loves and believes him outside of /v/?
Because Todd delivers video games that autists can latch onto. Sean promised an autism game but not even autists wanted it.
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>>384149497
> apologize for being Lied
God damnit op why you are a massive faggot?
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>>384150242
I liked fallout 4 for what it was but it was still as disappointing as I am to my family and peers
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>>384150886
Fuck off and die, Brewis
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>>384153097
Stop posting todd
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>>384149497

Because unlike Sean, Todd makes finished products. Flawed in many ways, but they're still selling games packed with content and shit to do (even if it is a bit samey).

Sean is a liar and a manipulator and took people's hopes for a good space game (in the Elite Dangerous/ Star Citizen space) and used that to trick people into buying this.

If anything he pulled something on the level of Peter Molyneux, but somehow even worse.
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>>384167298
Terraria was good even at the beginning.
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>>384166295
everyone knew wayè before release that NMS was going to be shit. Sony was no stranger to that fact because it was their hardware that prevented the game to achieve what it wanted to achieve in the first place.

But go ahead and keep memeing about murray, he took the bullet so you retards don't talk bad about sony.
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>>384149497
Yup, at least patches for NMS are free unlike Todd's jewing of expansions
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>>384158753

Must be really crazy to play in a universe with 1,366 other people. You'll likely never bump into them. Sound pretty lonely desu.
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>>384167220
>>384167329
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>/v/ still hates NMS
>but praises the everloving shit out of actual failed abortion games like dark souls and morrowind
REALLY activates the jigger wiggers
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>>384163385
But where are the lies, most of those are true.
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>>384168005
are you even read before you post sometimes? how is ps4's hardware limiting multiplayer? game looks like shit, empty worlds eerywhere, how is that ps4's limitation? only thing we knew about it is that this was a multiplayer game, even sony thought it will be. only thing this game wanted to archive was to execute perfect scam, nothing more, it was never coded to include multiplayer, you are done sean, your career as a dev is over
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>>384149351
>http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/630053/No-Man-Sky-Hello-Games-Reddit-Update-anniversary-Project-Waking-Titan-Sean-Murray

What a fucking trash website.
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no mans sky is just the brink of neo /v/

people pissed off at it are new fags. anyone else wouldve already known it was going to be nothing
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>>384168515
>dark souls
>failed
inspiring a whole new genre of games from other game studios isn't exactly a failure, and i am sure they hit their goals for every early quarter
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>>384169153
>inspiring a whole new genre of games
so did dota, it's still a trash game that spawned a trash genre
but thanks for attempting
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>>384169153
>a whole new genre of games from other game studios

>lotf
>salt and sanctuary
>???
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>>384169074
people defending NMS and pretending there were never any hype threads on /v/ are new fags.

the damage control for no mans sky perfectly encapsulates neo /v/
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>>384163818
It's flinching. Its previous owner abused it so much that any time someone has their hand above it, it squints and braces for impact. That dog isn't being cute, it's terrified.
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>>384149351
So this means the game is getting our of early access?
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>>384168702
>game looks like shit, empty worlds eerywhere, >how is that ps4's limitation?
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>>384168672
Pretty much everything between "I'm Game Director for Fallout 3" and "You can play forever" are lies.
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>>384169319
yes
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>>384150886
Enough Sean.
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>>384168515
>neo /v/ still defending NMS months later
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THESE OTHER GAMES THAT ARE SHIT IN MY OPINION! HUH? HUH?
Deflection 101
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>>384167043
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>>384169673
theres nothing to talk with you about anymore, nothing you said has any foundations, no proofs, nothing, only memes and retarded theories you made in your empty head
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where are those patch notes?
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why don't you guys just play elite dangerous? It has more than this game has, without the lies

it's limited in scope but it's real and it exists and it's awesome

no man's sky and star citizen are lies, the ambition is too high and none of their claims were ever achievable

there are amazing space games out there with huge amounts of depth and complexity you could be playing instead like elite and x3 albion prelude
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>>384168440
Ouch.
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>>384166496
trust is irrational
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>>384170237
>bad multiplats are bad because they are bad
>it has nothing to do with console hardware limitation
where the fuck have you been the past few years?
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>>384168440
thanks for fixing my dead pixel faggot
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>>384161924
look at presentation videos for oblivion when he talks about NPC AI, and other games. a few are straight up lies, and a few are technically not lies but full of misdirection, like
>radiant quests, play the game forever!
>it's actually just the game generating fetch quests, wow
>you can walk up to that mountain top!
>you can hop your way up in a glitchy way, and there's absolutely nothing there
>"it just works"
>it doesn't
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>>384170371
because space spergs dont want space games that are limited in scope. they want games that promise everything. even if it takes years and is financially impossible for pretty much every company.
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but where are the patch notes?
what is this update adding?
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>>384169920
>n-n-no you're nu/v/
Why am I not surprised.
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>>384170823
excepts one of the versions is better than others, nms is bad on all platforms, its almost insulting to sony. now explain multiplayer, why did sony had to release those stickers? it surely was not seas's fault, oh no, but you sure have an explanation for this
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>>384171081
>stuttering greentext
>no u
Hello newfag
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>>384171201
>he literally repeats the no u argument
kek
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>>384154242
It's still comfy though :)
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>>384170371
Elite dangerous is a decent space trucking sim, but not much else. It's better at being a sim than NMS but its planets and universe in general are more dull.
There's not a whole lot to do unless in Elite you play with a dedicated group, and at that point I might as well play EVE.

Though had I fallen for the VR meme I would probably still be playing Elite.
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>>384149497
>How the fuck does Todd get to lie so bad but everyone still loves and believes him outside of /v/?

His games aren't bad at all and they allow mods. It's 2017 and i'm still modding Skyrim. Simple as that.
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>>384171438
>he thinks there was an argument to begin with
toppest kek
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>>384154242
>All Sean did was sell a promise and it was one he flat out broke.
He promised it would be comfy and it is. Problem sperg?
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>>384155218
They already added 4k support in the last update
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>>384171701
nice bait
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>>384170947
so its just /v/ falling for the hype again?
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>>384157670
People from Texas don't want to acknowledge that they're the same nationality as Commiefornians. Same goes for the English, Scottish, Welsh and (northern) Irish.
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>>384171156
>but you sure have an explanation for this
at what point in the development process could sony modify the cover without being caught for the fuckers they are?
It takes very little to fool you though.

>excepts one of the versions is better than others
if you can't realize it's the same graphics on every platform for every single multiplat I can't do anything for you. You are just dumb.
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>>384171879
Why do developers get a free pass to mislead people to hype their games?
Why is /v/ always at fault?
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>>384172017
how is it misleading?

claims about how you can play forever, climb that mountain, its all true. It may not be that great. It may even be straight up bad, but its all true.

what is misleading about this?
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>>384159559
This

>>384149497
Also, Todd's games are still enjoyable by most people, FO4 is the only game people outside /v/ didn't like
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>>384149351
Lmao, is this even real life? And now Molyneux is making a fucking hiking game. We have been blessed to live in the most surreal timeline.
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>>384172008
nms's covers are literally the only case when this happened in entire history of gaming and you still believes it was not because sean lied to them, you are literally retarded, you have you own world you live in
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>>384172229
t. peter molyneux
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>>384172730
we are talking about todd
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go to bed Sean
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are they finally adding multiplayer or what?
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>>384173732
It's always been there you just can't see or talk to the other players.
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>>384173849
then that's not multiplayer.
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>>384173896
It literally is Sean said it is.
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>>384172414
you just don't realize how much was on the line. NMS was a system seller and marketed heavily by sony from the beginning. Imagine also the game not coming to consoles but only on PC.

At any rate consoles would have been at fault of preventing ambitious games from being made on top of all the 30fps shit, whereas with this recovery no one blames sony.

But I can guarantee you you will never see ambitious or out of the beat path games anymore. Only the same easy buck shit now. No more indie proceduraly generated universe shit.
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>>384174041
imagine being this retarded
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>>384171879
because this amount of mainstream $$$, advertizing, PR, misdirection and lies is relatively new. usually devs would mention something like "you can walk up that mountain" and that meant that that action was meaningful to the overall experience of the game, and that fallout 3 stupid shit about "200 endings", like not 200 fleshed endings, but the total amount of permutations of the "final slides aka screenshots" available would be around 200.

people were used to being naive in this industry because it was about the content, not the sales. plenty of the early cult classics didn't sell well, especially PC games. consoles without internet required polished and well designed games. money is the only thing that drives this world, if a publisher can spend a ton on advertizing and cut costs and time on development, sell a ton of copies and then release a few patches, paid DLC and microtransactions, they will, and then do it all over again with that same yearly franchise. if they can, they will. i guarantee you, if people don't buy the next buggy bethesda sandbox because it's too fucking buggy, bethesda WILL switch to a new engine, get better programmers, take more time, etc. i mean FUCK, fallout 4 plays and looks like it was made in 2005, and even 2005 had games that were more mechanically and technically impressive, polished and better looking, and certainly better written

thing is, plenty of the sales come from consolebros who play multiplayer, the only aspect that has some semblance of game design and balance in it, because it HAS to
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>blatantly lie
>release a shit game
>people on the steam forums and youtube still defend it and claim Sean never lied

There is so much evidence so who the fuck are these people?
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post the omnomnom zone
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>>384174180
it's hard to process for brainlets like you I understand.
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>yfw Oblivion's AI is better than Skyrim's
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>>384177038
How so?
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>>384150886
How do you know his feet are nicepics.
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Sean getting cancer is the only way I could forgive him
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>>384154359
Holy shit, 60 bucks? We made jokes about indie devs are going to charge full AAA prices for their shitty games 3 years ago.
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>>384151893
that comment would imply, "maybe at some time there would be multiplayer", not necessarily on launch.
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>>384149497

Todd lies about things you can do in his game, Murray lies about having a game in the first place.
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If there are people who were dumb enough to fall for No Man's Sky in the first place, there are people dumb enough to fall for it again.
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>>384157942
please answer the question.
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>>384162519
wheres its later replaced with a much better scene (end of evangelion)???
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/1457328846182784290/

lol
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>>384180218
>Multiplayer would ruin the game

What kind of retarded logic is this?
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>>384180027
I think Sean would rather skip to the Rebuild series
Which is a shame, because I think No Man's Sky would benefit from a mindfuck ending
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>>384180357
rebuilds werent as good as the original series + EoE, so i guess sean would go for it yeah
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>>384149958
If I had the same million dollar salary I would word on a fucking flash game for retards indefinitely.
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What a strange fate that NMS indirectly killed Early Access endless-sandboxes.
The moment these games are officially released, people are going to refund them like crazy - just like they did with NMS.
That's the reason why all these games are still in Early Access, the refund backlash and monetary support will cease to exist.
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>>384181853
Subnautica will try to turn it around by not bullshitting itself. At least they had the balls to say "No, there isn't any multiplayer and there never will be."
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I genuinely enjoy No Man's Sky.
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I like the game, but I understand if people don't like it, especially if people buy the game hoping for features the developer himself said it's was going to be there, just to be a lie. I had a feeling the game would get hate just by being a niche game, but the hole lying thing just took it to a new level.
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