Why don't you become a Quake Champion?

>>384148748
Is that Blaskowicz from Wolfenstein?

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>>384148854
Yes

>>384148748
NOT MUH QUAKE. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

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>>384148748
>character head on HUD doesn't move

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>>384148956
Other Quakes are dead.

>>384148748
I'm guessing you used the Nvidia inspector to make everything look like there's no textures?

>>384149117
NOOOO. HOW DARE DEVELOPERS TRY TO BREATH NEW LIFE INTO A BELOVED GAME, IT'S NOT THE GAME IVE PLAYED FOR 345456235 HOURS IN 2001. MUH QUAKE. MUH DOOM. MUH NOSTALGIA.

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>>384149157
Yeah. It''s "not allowed" according to developer but so far they do nothing about it and won't ban anyone for using that except pro players.

Their engine doesn't even support console so you can't configure the game the same way you could in Q3.

>>384148748
>>384149117
Is this considered "skilled" nowadays?

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>>384149273
>NOOOO. HOW DARE DEVELOPERS TRY TO BREATH NEW LIFE INTO A BELOVED GAME, IT'S NOT THE GAME IVE PLAYED FOR 345456235 HOURS IN 2001. MUH QUAKE. MUH DOOM. MUH NOSTALGIA.

Somehow I doubt that QC would become popular.
Arena shooters like Quake are just alien to the modern players. They'd rather play some realistic PUBG trash or Overwatch for waifus.

>>384148748
>shit netcode

>shit balance

>shit overwatch copied "ultimates"

>zoom in does more damage

>all the high skill weapons nerfed caused babies don't like getting railed

>it's the exact same people who ran(ruined) quake live into the ground

Bad game for dumb people.

>>384149113
The hud is the major problem I have with the game.

Between sound queues for characters for the amount of health remaining not being a thing, HP/Armor is way too far from the ammo counter. Shit's too small compared to vanilla Q3

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>>384149747
It's beta.

>>384149747
>>all the high skill weapons nerfed caused babies don't like getting railed
Rail was nerfed because the devs devalued map control and 200/200 stacks, most champions would die just from 2 rails even with full HP and armor.

Game is too hard for me. I kept getting hard stomped no matter how hard I tried.

>>384149832
Post more actual graphics.

>>384148748
Where can I get your config?

Holy shit you can see.

>>384148854
yes but it's bj from nuworlf and not bj from wolf3d
it's not fanservice, it's advertising future products

>>384149747
>OW created ultimate moves
Kys

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>>384150253

why are all games now trying to 'dethrone' overwatch?

>>384149832
>b-but it's beta
>b-but they'll fix it
>b-but I don't want to be...alone

Every time. Wish I had the image on hand, so you'll just have to contend with the greentext shitpost instead.

>>384149468
just my thought, these people are moving slow af

>>384150689
This game isn't really competing with overwatch.

>>384150689
For the same reason there was so many Halo "killers". They want a piece of the pie.

>>384149468
calm down fag. it's just some guy posting his clips

>>384150689
this happens with every blizzard game release
world of warcraft? endless wow clones
diablo 3? endless diablo clones
overwatch? endless overwatch clones

everyone tries to copy blizzard because they want some of that sweet blizzard money
but people that buy blizzard games typically buy them for the branding and not the product

>>384150534
>>384150835

This entire abomination of a game was only created because of Overwatch.

The developers who fucked up Quake Live somehow talked their way into ruining the Quake license once again by promising to copy Overwatch.

I didn't start early enough and I'd rather play live and cpma than this mobashit, but those games are dead

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Its a lot slower than I remember.. Just my imagination and nostalgia?

>>384148748
too hard senpai

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>>384150270
>Where can I get your config?
QC doesn't support configs.

If you want to emulate "picmip" use Nvidia inspector. Change values like that.

>>384151045
isn't the guy who put QL on steam and added the loadouts and autohop the guy who's one of the head honchos on this project?

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>>384149273
>>384148956

I'm lost all my ability to play arena shooters well, I'm trash. I spent so much time dead and in the negatives that I can't even improve.

>>384151281
doesn't he have like 15% LG

>>384148748
Does the game feel as slow as it looks in the webms? Judging from them it looks to have the same pace as overwatch

>>384149684
silky smooth

>>384150689
>why are all games now trying to 'dethrone' overwatch?

Say you're a developer. If you want funding for your vidjer, you have to beg a publisher for shekels.

Said publisher is staffed by a board of directors (none of whom play video games) who will only give you shekels if you earn them even more shekels. However, what they *really* want are those top-tier shekels like the ones being earned by games like CoD, LoL, and WoW. So they say "Sure, anondev, we'll give you some shekels, but you need to let us oversee your game's development to make sure it's up to par."

So you start development, then all of a sudden three suits come strutting through the door with a list of demands. "Change this, this, this, this too, make this a little more like [popular game]." Then they disappear.

Twelve months later, your game is a pitiful clone of [popular game], and no one is willing to switch franchises. Your publisher blames it on you for not being a competent dev, and the world keeps turning.

senpai

>>384151281
I loved UTgold and UT2k4 but he's pretty much right.

>>384150769
If they'd fix it and support the game with tournaments it would benefit everyone.
Q3/QL was ignored by everyone - no new players, no tournaments and they game fell into irrelevance.

I don't even argue that QC is a mess now and it has lots of problems. But it's funny how people don't even know that Q3 beta or even Q3 after the release was a mess too. The performance was awful, strafe jumping was awful and the game was "fixed" with OSP and CPM later.

>>384150689
OW hasn't even dethroned CSGO. Unless you meant in terms of casual shooters and not Esports, then I'm pretty sure normalfags are too busy gushing over the ww2 CoD. MOBA shooters yeah, but when you're competing against a dead before birth game like Battleborn and 3rd worlder trash like Paladins, that's not saying much.

>>384151281
it's obstinate delusion

the quake label has value, and there's where the value ends
why do people not play the other arena shooters? it's not quake
what would this game do if it was quake? perform like quake in the modern day would
what would this game do if it didn't have the quake label? die like battleborn and the rest of the indie overwatch clones that are trying to grab the e-sports limelite
what will this clone do, with the quake label? disappoint everyone, but mostly investors

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Because the netcode is fuckin garbo and the game is only competitively viable at least in this country if you've got NBN, also, no open qualifiers. Games fun though, ill probably play it through ESL.

Anyway, any equivalent of Nvidia Inspector for AMD cards?

>>384151281
>last 5 years
>warsow
nigger what isn't that game almost as old as UT2k4?

>>384151281
He's right, if people wanted perfect arena shooters they'd play Q3, Reflex and some other clones.
But they don't.
People want chests, cosmetics, teamplay, online-casinos with rare skins and hats, etc.

And it's not really a bad thing because the only competitive game that can exist without casual players in Starcraft in Korea.

>>384151281
Why do cucks think this fag's opinions matter again? Because he's famous?

What game is this?

>>384152270
>People want chests, cosmetics, teamplay, online-casinos with rare skins and hats, etc.
they already have that
why are they going to leave their rare skins and hats to go to another casino

people didn't leave wow to play the wow clones

>>384152270
why not a pure arena shooter with "modern" crap added on top. people just want a game they can play with their casual friends.

>>384152008
>matchmaking only fires within like 20 minutes on weekends
>work weekends

Misery.

>>384152178
God I wish more people played Warsow.

>>384148748
This looks slow as fuck compared to Quake 3

>>384151281
>You dont like the same stale meta for 18 years? Then play these terrible games
>What? You dont like these terrible games, guess you just dont enjoy arena shooters
The sooner he dies from his cancer the better desu, UT4 Alpha is fine but the UI is dogshit and considering how stupid it is to get past it and into a game theres no wonder people didnt play it.

>>384149684
At least Overwatch has an identity, I'm shocked at how generic Champions has ended up looking. Not a fan of most of the character's designs, and I'm especially not hot on how the environments are. I'm not saying Overwatch is a shining example of unique design, but QC looks boring, compared to older Quake games (not nostalgic for these) even.

I played the beta and it was enjoyable enough. Hated my character screaming some shitty one liner literally every time I respawned. If there's gonna be a classic DM/TDM mode then nobody's gonna do much complaining I can imagine.

Looking forward to trying out Diabotical if that ever comes out. Progress updates have been slow on their end lately and I can only hope that means development has been ramping up over the past few months.

>>384152664
Those webms are slow as fuck compared to QC desu.

>>384148748
So with bethesda not being afraid to crossover stuff from games, are we likely to see stuff like doomguy/corvo/Nick Valentine/Morgan from their other ip in QC?

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>>384152664
That's because it's fov-90 in Q3 equivalent.

>>384152936
seeing as they're already crossing over gameplay from brink, why not

>>384152904
That's good. I was actually looking forward to this game but don't like playing betas. I'll probably get it at some point after it comes out.

>>384152936
Doomguy was already confirmed through datamining, I think.

>>384152936
Would be cool af tbch

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>>384152936
Who's excited for this guy?

This game already has micro transactions.

Because the game is obviously incomplete, bad netcode, FFA is the only enjoyable mode, and overall it's not very fun with get out of jail abilities and "tank" and "scout" archetype characters.

why don't the walls have any textures?

>>384153637
casual detected

+10 Xp
+2000 Summary
+40 level points
+2 achievements unlocked

Lol, they put the same shit on the screen, like in Call of Duty. Shows you the target audience lol.

Why would I fucking care about my achievements, levels, unlocks, etc. I just play to kill the enemy and be the best... not to collect points and unlock new achievements.

Sad.

>>384153870
You didn't care about all of that in Q3 / QL and the game died and fell into irrelevance.

>>384153415
>This game already has micro transactions.
No it doesn't. You can't use them.

>>384154252
you mean to say it does have them but you can't use them.

>>384153397
That would be actually pretty cool.

>>384148748
Is that the guy from wolfenstein ?

Is doomguy in yet ?

>>384154085
The game died, because of noobs like you...

Who were born with shitty reflexes, and couldn't get a single kill.

>>384148748
Skills don't let me take it seriously

>>384149117
nigga you suck at strafe jumping in QC
holy shit

looks boring

>>384148748
Since when did Overwatch have mod support?

>>384151093
OP isn't strafejumping he's just walking normally and jumping like a retard for no reason

It's pretty boring desu.

TB's completely fucking right, if this opinion was coming out of someone anonymous or not totalbiscuit none of these fags would be complaining about it

I'll log into xonotic hoping even for hook instagib players to be on during north american prime time and the only populated servers are in fucking europe at a time when europeans should be sleeping

every other arena shooter is the same, even UT, which has arguably just as good branding and recognition as quake

you niggers need to shut the fuck up with your excuses about arena shooters being dead because you do all sorts of mental gymnastics in order to not admit they're not popular

look at the fighting game community surviving during their decade+ dry spell of nothing but mvc2 and street fighter 3, where they still had vastly more people willing to support the genre than arena shooters do now, and they had a tiny fraction of the playerbase that arena shooters had in their prime

can any of you fucks admit to having even that level of enthusiasm and support for shooters that the FGC did? no, you fucking abandoned them when they died like a bunch of fags, and then wave around your "arena shooter history" like you're so hardcore, so kill yourselves

Weapons are shit
idtech engine is shit
Levels are lackluster
Characters locked behind paywall

>>384151281
Most of them are shit games except UT4 alpha though.

>>384154628
Don't cry now baby, I've been playing Quakes since the release and competitively since Q2.
Q3 was abandoned by pretty much everyone to the point that even Quake 3 pros moved to play Overwatch.

>>384150929
Diablo clones came after Diablo 1 and 2 though.

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>characters differences go beyond aesthetics
Worthless

>>384150769
But the game is actually in beta
Complain about the net code when it's for sale and on steam

abilities suck. the layer of depth they add is not particularly valuable, interesting, or challenging (unless you think the concept of counters and rock paper scissors is cool), but at the same time they trivialize core quake things like playing smart off of spawn, map movement, quad damage challenging, etc. now you can teleport to a rail immediately off of spawn, ztn red armor and bridge to rail are easier to get to, fighting over quad damage relies a lot on pressing your ability key

aside from that, the game feels like it has no soul. ffa is going to be a casual mode in any game you put it in. tdm and sacrifice feel unfocused. duel is a mess with no room for proper comebacks, map control endurance factor just isn't there and map control in generally is less important and less impacting on matches than previous quakes.

>>384155579
it's not id tech, it's a saber interactive engine.

>>384155479
desu i play a lot of doom on competitive level and really wanted doom 4 to be proper arena style. bethesda shat on it and hired halo/CoD dev to do the MP and that was that. now we have quake champions which isn't even an arena shooter either, so to me, quake was shat on as well. sorry, i'm justifiably pissed

>>384152801
>Overwatch has an identity
Blizzard wish it did.

>>384155479
he's wrong because the "hardcore" audience is the smallest segment of gamers and even those have different opinions and tastes. casual players are what keeps games going nowadays.

fighting games have arcades to keep them alive. something computer games don't have.

It's kinda boring desu

>>384155479
>comparing FGC, the niggers of gaming to arena shooters
At least we don't eat shit like they did.

>>384148748
It felt so fucking slow. Plus it'll be dead before the game even launches officially.

>>384155479
>street fighter 3

nah they played cvs2. third strike was a tiny scene.

also they refused to play any other company's games other than capcom's and there weren't casualized fighting games sapping the market, it was a niche scene where the talent stated inside

>>384155838
there was a resurgence with 3's release
shit like torchlight and the rest were trying to ride the hype

>>384156115
>map control endurance factor just isn't there and map control in generally is less important and less impacting on matches than previous quakes
Look, I agree with you in some points, disagree in others, and that's fine, but this is just not true.
I'm a fairly skilled player who's been playing Quake since 2006, I was never a pro though and everytime I encountered someone really skilled I got my ass handed to me the same way noobs had theirs when they played against me, point being, I'm not really amazing but I've always known my way around an Arena Shooter and get how you're supposed to play.

In Quake Champions map control is everything, having less time to play has actually made me seen it even more. Whenever I play duel against someone who's had time to really develop good map control I get completely destroyed, it's absolutely clear and even when though I usually have higher accuracy it's useless when the other guy knows where I'm going before I do.

>>384156115
you can comeback in duel but that's because it's very random in the first place. with the lower overheal limit and different health/armor amounts, it's very easy to get a good rocket or rail and be even or better, even if they've had map control the entire game.

the sound being absolutely terrible means you can get the jump on someone and you'll get a free shot because they never knew you were there, even if you were running and jumping. once you get that free shot and advantage they have is literally gone. the game is suppsoed to be skill based but favors randomness so anyone has a chance to win. the devs admitted it on stream that they want casuals to feel like they can beat a pro.

>>384156627
>third strike was a tiny scene
Maybe before 04. Daigo parry was a mistake.

>>384155479
>can any of you fucks admit to having even that level of enthusiasm and support for shooters that the FGC did? no, you fucking abandoned them when they died like a bunch of fags, and then wave around your "arena shooter history" like you're so hardcore, so kill yourselves

the FGC did that for sfv. they refused to play better games and they're attaching themselves to trash, sort of like fps and overwatch and csgo

When is this coming?

>>384156781
>feel like they can beat a pro
That's not what the leaderboards in every fucking match tell me

>>384156816
third strike was literally smaller than even ST back then and that video didn't catch on until like 08 ish

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>>384148748
Can you get into the beta without effort?

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>arena faggots

Get good kiddos.

>>384156929
>When is this coming?

It's open beta now, you don't need to pay anything.
No idea about the release date, probably next year.

>>384157069
>all those chinks and third worlders
Who the fuck cares

>>384157058
>Can you get into the beta without effort?
You need to make Bethesda account.

They'd make it available on Steam later but you'd still need Bethesda account to log in as far as I know.

>>384157002
yes because the devs are retards and thought adding randomness means casuals have a better chance to win. all they've really done is sometimes you'll lose a fight even though you were ahead, lowered the skill ceiling, and made the game less fun and frustrating.

i like the game but i have no doubt it will be dead in a few months.

>>384148748
How do you get textures like that ?
And does it increase framerate or just for visual

>>384156743
i didn't say it doesn't matter at all, i just said it's less important now, which I believe is true now more than ever after watching some pro duels from the world championship. >>384156781 put it pretty well

>>384157058
you give them your email or something and they'll send you an email with a code eventually.

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>>384157049
>and that video didn't catch on until like 08 ish
It caught on almost immediately. It caused a pretty rapid expansion in the FGC that hadn't occurred before. If you're talking about on youtube then no shit since it was relatively niche until around 07-08.

Is the game good or should I go back to TF2 / Q Live?

>>384157793
go back now

>>384157567
Well, maybe you're right, just saying so far (put about 60 hours into the beta iirc, haven't had much time lately) I've found map control to (still) be the most important factor in winning, watching the QWC streams only furthered this idea, since people like Toxjc not only move around the maps like fucking quicksilver, they also seem to win or lose depending on the paths they take more than anything.

- Weapons feel and sound weak
- Abilities are boring
- Having characters with different speed, life and armor values is a terrible idea

I don't know which is the bigger disappointment; this or the new UT

>>384158186
new UT has really pretty floors

>>384154085
The game is like what? twenty years old? and it hasn't died, most of it's playerbase have jobs and families now, they don't have the time to play it, but they still do when they can. jesus fuck This shit pisses me off
>Lol nobody plays super mario bros anymore, what a shitty game right bro?

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>>384157240
Stay irrelevant with your "first world" then

>>384158186
Did you figure out what's wrong about it? It just isn't as fun as 2k4 but I don't know why.

>>384157887
Where to?

>>384158350
No new players and official support (no one wants to put Quake on LAN tournaments unlike Dota, CS, LoL, etc) means the game is dead.
And games like Dota and CS and not much younger than Q3.

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>>384150583
>That spastic belly jiggle

Bitch got a parasite or something.

>>384149459
they said they're working on a console in the last q a

>>384155479
1.6 is a better example I think, consistently played despite little to no actual changes, mostly just community content.

wait, what is wrong with the textures?

>>384152353
It's not just an opinion, it's an argument to make a point, you mouth-breathing retard.

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>>384150253

>>384150583
>>384149832
>DUDE TITS LMAO
this isn't quake

>>384159265
anon's playing with pseudo-picmip

Why are people triggered by Quake Champions.
The abilities have huge cooldowns and are not even that important

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>>384159330
>>384159351
Nyx waifu is pretty HOT.
I wish her face was more feminine though, typical Western ugly female face.

>>384150210
practice you sissy
this is why people make fun of your generation

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>>384159351
Fucking newfag

>>384159451
they are very important actually. not sure how you can say they aren't.

>>384151281
He's right, but still a faggot.

>>384150781
its just op trying to show us some frags he got jeez

>>384159351
Yeah, it is.
There's already some eldrich and soldier stuff from Quake 1 innit. Do you want gay robots from the worst Quake as well?

>>384159451
>The abilities have huge cooldowns and are not even that important
They are incredibly important in duels.
Nyx's invis, Clutch's shield, Anarki's full heal and speed boost, etc.
Pro players know that perfectly well and always collect those "clocks" on the map.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ybuo7ltw80

#wearequakechampions

#usgirlsareprostoo

>>384158285
That acrylic paint on steel material they use in the movement tutorial level is actually amazing.

>>384158514
The movement isn't nearly so tight and there's something about the scale that just feels off. I think part of it is the human shaped character models instead of the bulky space marines.

>>384151094
millenials everybody

>>384159849
Because I played QC a lot, and I watch the qualifiers currently, and I don't see abilities being a deciding factor on who wins. Maybe champion stats and passives change the play style, but that's a good thing.

>>384158514
Sliding and wall running are completely pointless in their current state and coupled with the removal of double jump the movement system just feels worse.
Also, no lightning gun

>>384151410
no ops just bad

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>>384160076
>its just op trying to show us some frags he got jeez
This.
I mostly record air frags with RL.

Pro players are playing non stop now at QuakeCon qualifiers and other online tournaments so if you want to watch high skill gameplay go on and watch them.

>>384160350
for example, nyx's ability is the difference between dying and living. others have offensive abilities than can help in a fight. i watched the qualifiers as well and they were very important and got kills that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

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>>384152483

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Is Beej's dual-wielding and quasi-health regen still as overpowered as people were complaining about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y0jbna9zTE

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>>384153309
>>384152936
leaked already
this was way before BJ was announced too

Alrighty time to stop this stupid shit.
If it has "abilities" it is not a quake game
"If it has unique "characters" instead of general skins. It is not a quake game.
If it has micro transactions in any way, it is not a good game.
if it has lootboxes in any way, it is not a good game.
If you are capable of spending money on it, after buying the game, it is not a good game.

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>>384160974
BJ is pretty mediocre now after the nerf.
Only good for corrupted keep map and dual LGs.

>>384160974
they nerf his dual wielding.

>>384161098
>no waifus
>no hunter

Dropped

>>384154367
yes as in you cant pay for stupid bullshit thats going to be reset after beta is over

>>384161261
the point is that it will have them and you can already see what you can pay for

>>384152904
>Those webms are slow as fuck compared to QC desu.
>>384152664
>This looks slow as fuck compared to Quake 3
>>384156472
>It felt so fucking slow. Plus it'll be dead before the game even launches officially.

Play Anarki if you want high speed. BJ has no CPMA movements and can't even make fast strafe jumps like Clutch, run fast like SB or being mobile and double-jumping like Nyx.

>>384161261
>yes as in you cant pay for stupid bullshit thats going to be reset after beta is over

If you buy the game you won't need to pay for any champions.
Cosmetics and chests are different and obviously exist for the single purpose.

>>384161508
>having to pick a character in a quake game
>being able to pick a character in a quake game

>>384148748
ive been playing every night since beta started faggot

>>384148748
i see blaskowitz finally died and ended up in a hell of eternal deathmatch tournaments

>>384158576
you know where

>>384161904
It's just where he was in his 14 year coma. His soul and mind keeping his skills intact in interdimensional warfare so when he wakes back up in 1960 he can get right to shooting, stabbing and strangling Nazis with minimal rehab.

>>384161170
I really miss it. Being able to fight straight off the spawn in ffa was too good.

>>384160974
they nerf less than a week later

>>384160974
Nah, but they buffed the shit out of clutch so if you can play him he's totally broken in duel.

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>>384161213
theyre going to be constantly releasing characters as time goes on calm down
you think they would ignore this?

>>384161106
This.

>>384161702
it makes it feel fresh desu fampai

>>384162651
yes they did nerf bj wtf are you talking about

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>>384159547
Fuck off weeb.

>>384163335
How does her hair stay like that?

>>384161106
I can understand being against it for Duels but really what the difference in team games in having an ability and the team powerups in Team Arena? They aren't exactly the same thing but whatever close enough.

>>384163427
hair spray

>>384162963
Fresh is just a buzzword people use when they can't think of anything good about the game.
"Here have this big bag of shit."
"Fuck no get that away from me"
"But I made it fresh myself..."

>>384163731
BECAUSE.IT.IS NOT. QUAKE.
Why can't people get this through their fucking heads? if you strip out everything about a game, and replace it with shit from another game, and give it the same name as the old game, THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT THE OLD GAME.

Here buddy, This is the new devil may cry game, it's a first person shooter where you play as John mc shooty killing nazi's. What? this isn't devil may cry? fuck you of course it is, it has the name, can't you see? What the game is shit? what are you talking about? it's fresh and new, that means it's good right? only new things are good right?

You are unironically, the cancer killing video games.

>>384163836
>Fresh is a buzzword now
Time to step outside, fella.

>>384164261
That's a ridiculous strawman.

Maybe it's different, but it's still an FPS, not a kart racer or platform fighter or whatever.

>>384148748
I don't like Quake 3. It was better when it was singleplayer focused, Unreal is better desu

>>384164503
Ok let me try again.
This is the new devil may cry, it features donte the super awesome edgy black haired demon hunter, he is the coolest and the bestest.
What? the game is shit? Impossible, it has the same name, why wouldn't it be great? Why wouldn't you like it, it's new and fresh, everyone loves new things right?

>>384148748
I had problems aiming in casual shit like overwatch let alone fast fucking games like this one. I do like to watch it sometimes but I'll stick to admiring it from afar. FPS are those you get it or you don't games. Yeah its possible to learn every game but naturally some people have an easier time with certain games and for shit like this if you cant get over that initial hurdle you improve VERY slowly or not at all.

>>384164884
DmC was a case of the developers actively antagonizing the fanbase, which makes it unique among all the other stuff /v/ has a chip on their shoulder about.

>>384164261
> if you strip out everything about a game, and replace it with shit from another game
they didnt strip anything out
they added to it, enhaced it if you will

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>>384164261
>Quake 1: moody dark fantasy shooter
>Quake 2: relatively slow rocking industrial scifi shooter entirely separate from the previous game
>Quake 3 and derivatives: Id-software themed abstract multiplayer shooter with some aesthetic hints at the previous games
>Quake 4: cawadoodie with robot monsters
>Quake Champions: Basically Quake 3 aesthetic shooter with some character abilities
>"B-BUH ITS NOT MUH QUAAAKE"

You are a fucking hipster idiot if you can't come up with better arguments, anon.

>>384164396
tell me, what value does fresh have as a descriptive word? what does fresh mean in this context? how does it relate to the strengths and weaknesses of this video game?
What's that? it's completely fucking meaningless and is just a vague good sounding buzzword?

>>384164261
> if you strip out everything about a game, and replace it with shit from another game
they didnt strip anything out they added to it
it feels and plays like quake, you probably never even installed it

>>384165154
Quake 3tards don't know that there are other Quake games other than 3

>>384164261
Don't be retarded.

>>384163836
what the fuck are you going off about

>>384161106
>If you are capable of spending money on it, after buying the game, it is not a good game.

Preach

>>384165154
>Quake Champions: Basically Quake 3 aesthetic shooter with some character abilities
>Basically Quake 3 aesthetic shooter with some character abilities
>Basically Quake 3
>Basically
Tell me, what universe do you live in that basically means is the same or equivalent to?
Or are you saying that it is not the same? which was the whole basis of my argument?

>>384159351
Did we not play the same game from 1999 or what?

>>384165182
fresh as in it doesn't feel like the same old fart ive been playing for 15 years

>>384149117
delay on every rocket, the fact i cant get above 30 rail even though 1/2 the time it clearly goes thru their model (ESPECIALLY ON BOOSTS LIKE WTF?) even though i hit 60 rail in other quakes, sorlaag and the duel mode are all why i dont play

I still don't get how /v/, the self-proclaimed paragon of arena shooters, is too scared of playing Quake Champion Duels.

>>384165876
Because we have no opponents to play against.

>>384165876
>Imagine they changed the games played at the Olympic every few years.
You mean like they do?

>>384165757
The games bad mate

Just loading it up for first time you can immediately tell it feels like shit and then you realize it also plays like shit 5 minutes later.

It's some combination of the engine/netcode/hitboxes/weapon balance that is completely fucked.

It probably lost like 95% of its audience that tried it in the open beta, and that's extremely bad.

People should WANT to play your game.

>>384165876
>It's perfect.
Don't be a drone. Quake 3 has problems just like any other game.

>>384165876
Quake 3 still exists, and you can go play it with the 20 people in the world who still actually play it and pretend the new game doesn't exist.

Arenatards are the worst I swear. They constantly preach about games not being "as good" as quake 3 and write off every game that isn't exactly like it, but don't actually play quake 3 at all, and aren't interested in any new arena fps games whatsoever.

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>>384165458
Of course it's not perfectly same, you fucking dingle-berry, but it's pretty close to same genre and aesthetic. QC can be quite rightly be called a "Quake"-game.

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>have to unlock other characters
>they have different abilities

>>384165295
>>384165121
1. Samefag.

2. oh I'm sorry they added things to it.That sure worked out for fallout 4, DmC, dmc2, torment, tides of numenera, diablo three, skyrim,fallout three, the legend of zelda the wind waker ( you fucking know I'm right you son of a bitch), deus ex two, deus ex human revolution, deus ex mankind devided, bioshock infinite, final fantasy 13, final fantasy 13-2, final fantasy 13-3, final fantasy 10-2, final fantasy 15, final fantasy 12. chrono chross, civ 4, civ 5, civ beyond earth, civ 6 mount and blade: viking conquest,
Thos are all fantastic games with nothing wrong with them, boy am I glad they ADDED shit.

>>384166310
Not an excuse for being too big a pussy to play you fucktard.

>>384165876
Quake 3 is dead. Quake Live is dead. They made Quake Champions so they can have a game that might not be dead, at least for a year.

>>384166348
Most play CPMA anyways which is much easier to play than og Q3.

>>384148748
>We will become Quake Champions
Fuck you, Bethesda.

>>384165876
Basically the quake community is spread real thin across a hundred different games and champions is an attempt to unify it a little by letting people all play their favourite movement styles in the same game.

>>384166598
>They made Quake Champions so they can have a game that might not be dead, at least for a year.
No, they made quake champions because they know quake players will be fucking chomping at the bit for a good AAA quake game and they can make a quick buck.

>>384166741
that's a bad attempt. having class elements and abilities alienates tons of classic quake players. that community will definitely continue to be spread thin going forward

>>384166751
Jack shit people actually play Quake.

>>384166348
There are probably more people playing other versions of quake than this trainwreck right now.

>>384167056
I promise you, if you remastered quake 2 gave it some good AAA spitpolish, beefed up the network a bit, it would sell millions of copies.

I'd rather play shootmania's instagib mode desu

They probably should have tried to advertise Quake Live a bit better when it came on Steam. QC is garbage.

>>384161702
Then don't fucking play it and stick to your dead QL, Q2 and QW faggot.
Times are changing and no one gives a SHIT about you and your garbage opinion about the game, you and "quake fans" let Quake die and become irrelevant, not a single tournament outside of Quake Con is hosting Quake anymore. Fuck off.

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>>384166531

Tremulous is the only good Quake.

>>384167612
i remember how they gave a previously free game a price of $10

>>384167718
Dreamhack

>>384166683
great like 20 people play cpma too

>>384167612
they did by destroying it. don't you remember they introduced loadouts and all the other bullshit

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>>384162806
There's already similar Nyx though

>>384151281
sad but true, the quake community, especially cpm fags (of which i am both) are their own worst enemy

>>384167718
Then don't fucking play it and stick to your dead Mario, Super mario world and Super mario Bro's. faggot.
Times are changing and no one gives a SHIT about you and your garbage opinion about the game, you and "Mario fans" let mario die and become irrelevant, not a single tournament outside of Mario Con is hosting Mario anymore. Fuck off.

>>384152531
Quake Champions and Reflex

Are these in low settings or the game does look like ass all the time?

>>384167728
Notice how the shill completely ignores my argument, focusing on a single irrelevant part, in order to deflect his failing.

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>>384148748
>slices guy to bits with fan
>"... HAS BEEN FRAGGED"
>shotguns someone
>"... HAS BEEN FRAGGED"

>>384168156
some trickery in the nvidia control panel muddles up textures for a less cluttered feel to the environment. normally the game doesn't look like that

>>384167879
And that sucked. But it's still better than QC.

reminder that arena games are dead because YOU don't fucking bother to play them

>>384166348

ikr, the game is literally the same and haven't lost its magic after all those years. There's literally no reason to not play quake 3 right now

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>>384148748
The gameplay's so fucking slow.
Where's the flow, where's the adrenaline? It looks like that plebeian excuse for a FPS, Overwatch.

>>384161702
Strange argument to make. You want to go fast, and have your pick of people who go fast--Visor has no speed cap, Anarki has CPMA movement, Clutch can move fast with UT-style movement, Slash has Q4 sliding...and you're mad because these things exist rather than just playing them. I could understand if you hated having characters if none of them presented you with movement options that you wanted, that would make sense and be a valid criticism, but it just seems like you're finding something arbitrary to complain about.

Is it just me or is scalebearer op as fuck?

>>384168429
I'm sorry I haven't been playing a twenty year old game anon, it is clearly my fault and my fault alone that not many people play anymore, not you age or lack of knowledge about the game or anything.

>>384156115
>i-it feels like it has no soul
PATHETIC

>>384168606
git gud

Still no Doom Marine.
But they're pushing Blazko. Smells like Propaganda Spirit.

>>384168531
>>384164261
Quake isn't about characters, having characters and abilities and shit, makes it not a quake game, Characters do not belong in quake, a quake game does not have characters.

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If you're looking at the webms in this game and thinking it isn't fast, remember that OP is just some fucking nobody recording his gameplay. If you want to see FAST, go watch the qualifiers that aret on right now. (Although it's NA right now and NA players are garbage compared to EU players. Just facts.)

https://www twitch tv/quakechampions

>>384168629
>p-pathetic
PATHETIC

>>384151281
He's right. I love Quake. I played it offline when I was kid. I lvoe the idea of it. It feels good. But I don't even want to play an actual online match in Q3 or QL becuase I suck at strafejumping and aiming and know I would get raped.

>>384150438
underrated

it's not the name that defines quake. the people who made the original no longer work at id

this game is not quake

>>384168981
don't watch. these players are much better than op.

>>384166531
comparing quake to final fantasy and bioshock

>>384169115
Jesus fuck some sense, can I marry you?

>>384167898
Get psyched~

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>>384163335
>Fuck off weeb.

Says a fucking underage newfag who doesn't even realize that Nyx is a blatant copy of Major from GitS.
Nu-/v/ as is.

i have 18gb free drive space and i think got invited to the beta.

Can i play?

>>384165732
>delay on every rocket
They fixed it already.

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>>384156095
Beta means the game stand firm and solid and you want to test balance/server load.
Alpha means the game is still in development with some or many or most things still in development like the netcode for example.
This game has been in development forever, the state it's in is simply sad. It's especially baffling that they didn't switch to idtech6 considering the long development time.
I got absolutely zero faith in the devs.

>>384152936
>dovahkin plyable in QC
>his ability is fus ro dah

>>384150583
those hips mang

>>384148748
Way too easy for me

>>384169157
>not mentioning dmc torment, skyrim fallout, zelda, chrono chross, civ, mount and blade, diablo, deus ex

For what purpose? could it be because you did not read my post? could it be you do not understand my point that adding shit to fine games does not necessarily mean those additions where good or wanted? could it be that you refuse to recognize that I was able to bring up multiple games spanning multiple genre's that have this exact same issue, and are typically known for being shitty trash games?

>>384166348
>Quake 3 still exists, and you can go play it with the 20 people in the world who still actually play it and pretend the new game doesn't exist.
>
>Arenatards are the worst I swear. They constantly preach about games not being "as good" as quake 3 and write off every game that isn't exactly like it, but don't actually play quake 3 at all, and aren't interested in any new arena fps games whatsoever.

It's funny because Q3 was despised by Q2 the same way as QC is getting treated by so called Q3 "veterans". Most of them are underage and don't even remember how bad was Q3 at the launch, performance issues were worse than QC has right now.
And the game was finally shaped in its form only with OSP which is not an official mode but a fan-modification. QL is more or less the same OSP.

The reason that all the old arena shooter faggots aren't playing anymore is because they're over 25 and now shit at the game so they get rolfstomped.

Reaction time drops like a rock after your early 20s

t man not in his early 20s

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>>384167267
no it wouldn't, and quake 2 was the worst quake other than 4

>>384168626
it's this or nothing. if quake champions flops you're never going to see another quake again, so put up with your frankly minor irritations for a couple of years while playing a game that still generally speaking has quake gameplay

>>384168907
like he said, it's arbitary. quake didn't have ctf, ca, and 100 other modes. now it does, and a lot of those new modes died out because they were crap. if characters are so bad, they might not feature in a future version of quake.

plus we've been promised a mode without character differences, but who knows if that will materialize.

>>384168907
Again, this is an arbitrary argument to make. When changing a game reduces the options you have or fundamentally changes the nature of the game, then yes, get mad about it. Adding more options into the game isn't a negative in this case, however; you aren't restricted in the characters you play in a round, and if you're a player coming in from other Quake games/mods, you will find characters that cater to you. It's a nice melding of options.

>>384164261
This is an terrible analogy, because the genre hasn't changed, nor has the feel of the game. I'll give you a better example using Devil May Cry: the reason people hated DmC, in addition to shit writing and shit art direction, was because the gameplay REDUCED the amount of things that you could do. People today are STILL finding out that you can do new shit in DMC4, whereas DmC actually removed mechanical depth and complexity. It's like I'm trying to explain to that other guy going on about characters, it would be a valid criticism IF the game reduced mechanical complexity. But try going bridge to rail in Blood Covenant (dm6) with Anarki consistently, lets see you put up a webm about it and then say it ain't Quake.

>>384158350
Cs 1.6 and source are still widely played, stop making up shitty excuses, and nothing really stops grown people from playing quake if they really wanted, most of the QL regulars i know are easily over their 30s and they do have families and jobs, the playerbase is just small because arena shooter have been dead during for over 10 years, anyone who doesnt admit this is plain retarded, blind, delusional or simply never played an arena shooter when those were actually alive so they cant tell the difference,

>>384169380
Don't know man, can you?

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>>384169260
>implying

>>384169115
Is that what all your guys screeching is about? Carmack fanboyism? Jesus.

>>384161146
Sauce?

>>384165876
because you don't play quake 3

>>384168626
>I'm sorry I haven't been playing a twenty year old game anon, it is clearly my fault and my fault alone that not many people play anymore, not you age or lack of knowledge about the game or anything.

Yet people still play CS and Dota and it's a million times more popular and better gameplay-wise.

>>384159451
If they're not important why are they there?

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Superior to Quake Quake-clone coming through

>>384169896
Uh, except a lot of old shooter faggots are stilling playing, you fucking tool. Have you not noticed that Stermy, Spartie, Toxic, and Cypher are playing in the qualifiers? Have you not noticed fucking Makevli doing commentary? Even fucking Fatal1ty came back.

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>>384169150
>>384168981
>pro players are better than casual players

?

What's your point

>>384152801
overwatch is just obnoxiously colored and overdesigned quirky characters that give you seizures

>>384170338
to attract millennials

you arent even strafejumping right, youre just jumping around for no reason. its totally unnecessary

>>384170402
i meant to say they aren't that much better than op

>>384169380
You don't even need an invite anymore, you can just go play it.

>>384170387
yes they're the far outliers

the average player doesn't have 99%tile reaction times and means that if you're over 25 you basically have no reason to play quake

>>384148748
the netcode and the engine as a whole are abysmal. The gameplay is fucked by the stupid decisions of the devs (tiered health what a great STUPID idea, oversimplifications of pickups, stupid duel format, shitty champs balance, no game modes diversity, or mods for that matter)
and that's a shame, because quake with champs work good enough. They just did a shit job at it.

I'm curious just how much of a influence overwatch has had on QC. I fucking refuse to play overwatch because I refuse to play any game that has any form of micro transactions, could someone who has played both go through and point out how much of QC is overwatch, and how much is actually quake?

>>384170597
Well it is the NA qualifiers.

>>384148748
>>384149117
>>384149459
>>384149684
Are these lowest settings, why does everything look like its made out of plastic?

>>384149117
this quake will be dead on arrival
also, just played QL, still enough ppl to have fun

>>384166310
In all honesty, the reason it's losing part of its audience is because people these days have no concept of how to play an arena shooter. The game needs tutorials, and people need to start getting good. I'll agree that the netcode on the game is fucked up, and it's less weapon balance than it is stack balance, but your average player isn't going to even understand all that if they're going 0-30 in FFA.

Gonna try it in a few hours after the download finishes

From what i've seen and gathered the game isn't living up to anyone's hype and the steam is cooling off behind it. No one is saying anything, not even hate, and that's a really BAD sign.

I play UT4 Alpha from time to time and that game is TIGHT. Thing is that the development is never going to get done as a complete game, even though it's perfectly and completely playable right now and it's good. But to surprise to anyone: it's kinda dead. I see the same thing in Quake Champions everywhere and even in these threads. But whatever, let's see.

Bethesda launcher fucking sucks though. It must be also built on Gamebryo engine it seems.

>>384151281
I bought both Toxikk and Reflex. Get cancer and die you strawmanning faggot.

>>384149459
oh man it gotta do this, there is so much awful visual clutter and the sounds are fucked, so it's pretty hard to read the arena.
Why didn't they make the red outline always on too...

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>>384170597
>i meant to say they aren't that much better than op

Just watch CPMA-mainers with Anarki, Sorlag and Clutch.

Those ones are GOTTA GO FAST tier.
Anarki is utterly annoying piece of shit to play against with his hitbox. It actually requires way better aim than it was required for Q3 because in Q3 you could make your enemy model look like TankJR and have no problems hitting him with the rail or LG.
Also pros can't use "picmip" and all that visual garbage is making it even harder to aim. Especially against Anarki or Nyx.

>>384170873
That's well below the lowest settings.

>>384170873
You can't make it look like that in the game. It's >>384151116 nvidia inspector settings making the game look like it has r_picmip 5.

>>384170720
>simplified pick ups
>implying watering down drops is somehow better than simplifying the item roster to streamline the flow of a map
I blame your mindset for such gems as CoD (+20 weapons, ~3 viable), CS (+20 weapons, 2 viable), and Halo (+20 weapons, 3-4 viable)

>>384170402
The point is not to take Joey Random's webms as an indicator of high-level speed in the game, which is what people seemed to be doing. OP is just some fucking nobody who can't into strafe jumping.

>>384170597
>>384170751
Yeah, NA is trash. Watching the EU qualifiers is good shit though. EU players were always good, but man we used to have some killers in the US. On Thursday there were matches with people who were fucking brand new to arena FPS in the NA qualifiers. The fuck happened to us?

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>arenafags screech for years about wanting a new game
>tonnes of games that cater to them release
>all of these are doa
>quake champions releases, dares to change a few things to avoid being a stale quake 3 clone
>arenafags screech that it's not really quake, despite clearly showing that they aren't an audience worth catering to

>>384171273
why

>>384170149
one of the monogatari series I'm guessing

>>384171032
As good as Reflex is, you gotta admit that the potential audience isn't nearly as high. I didn't play Toxikk, was it good?

>>384148748

If I play Quake, I'm playing for singleplayer. I know better than to waste my time with PvP bullshit where I'll inevitably lose. No thanks.

Plus when I got into the beta, the 80 minute load time just to get in was a massive turnoff.

>>384169014
elo and mm were invented for a reason

>>384168981
>broke up the link
god damn it what the fuck

>>384171437
It's a looser Halo with greater weapon carry, and vehicles. Pretty OK but dead game

>>384171325
You realize that BJ is not particularly a "high-level speed" champion in the game, right? And his strafe-jumping is nowhere near as fast as Clutch's, Nyx's, Anarki's, Sorlag's or even Visor.
You don't seem to understand what you're even talking about.

>>384155479
>look at the fighting game community surviving during their decade+ dry spell of nothing but mvc2 and street fighter 3, where they still had vastly more people willing to support the genre than arena shooters do now, and they had a tiny fraction of the playerbase that arena shooters had in their prime

This isn't true, fighting games were always much bigger than arena shooters. Street Fighter 2 and Tekken were fucking huge in the 90s.

>>384171336
>>quake champions releases, dares to change a few things to avoid being a stale quake 3 clone

ALL ANYONE WANTS IS FUCKING QUAKE THREE. just fucking make that, don't fuck everything up by stirring a bunch of shit into the mix.
It's like you have this beautiful woman, she's getting on in years abit yeah, but boy she sure is amazing. you decide to go down, and try out some new fangled research, it'll make her look twenty years younger, you take it of course, but after everythings all said and done, she suddenly has these massive scars on her face, and it just fucks up everything.

>>384171551
Try posting a twitch link. Go on, try it. See what happens.

>>384171325
Lick Rapha's boots and pray for him to contest 1x1 QC

>>384148748
Because I hate, and suck at, first person competitive shooters.

>>384171692
Just play quake live then

>>384171820
Is it titled quake live, or is it titled quake three?

>>384171096
i know how good players play. na players are not good in any form

>>384171336
>>arenafags screech that it's not really quake, despite clearly showing that they aren't an audience worth catering to

Jokes on you, all QL pros are already playing QC and practice with passion.
Local scrubs can screech all they want and play whatever they want, it's pretty obvious that QC needs to attract new players and even old players and best Quake players (pro players) are playing it already.

>>384148748
Stop cheating faggot.

>>384171692
What the fuck is this delusional bullshit

Quake III reeks of old shit and never was that good. Even UT was WAY better back then already, fuck.

And if you want to play Q3 so much then why don't you go play Quake Live since it's so fucking alive and sought out by millions of fans?

>>384171653
I didn't say he was, faggot. I'm saying that people looked at what OP posted and immediately knee-jerk reactioned with, "THIS GAME ISN'T FAST, NOT QUAKE." The point is that those webms aren't up to expectations and posting them is worse than not.

>>384171692
Q3 and QL still exist, bro. You seem unreasonably upset, as if Quake Champions somehow negates the existence or player population of these products.

>>384156743
Disagree, I am pretty good shooter but sucks at map control, yet I win duel consistently while picking up way less shit than my opponent
ambush, positioning and pure aim are now more rewarding that map control (which makes your movement a lot more predictable)

>>384171298
I'm not sure what that guy meant by it, but making all health and armour respawn on a 30 second timer to make it simpler to time is fucking terrible. You're stuck with whatever offset on major items that you get at the start of the game and it completely changes the game for the down player if they're together or offset.

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>>384171973
I will after they'd make the game playable with no performance issues, stutters and netcode problems.
So far it's tolerable at best with "picmip" and without it the game is almost puke-worthy.

>>384171991
>Quake III reeks of old shit and never was that good. Even UT was WAY better back then already, fuck.
>>384169923
>no it wouldn't, and quake 2 was the worst quake other than 4
So was it just quake one that was good? because it sounds a whole hell of a lot like contrarian shitposting in here.

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>>384171926
Made this for you since it's exactly what they made for QL

>>384161106
>lootboxes shit
Nice
>(((premium))) currency micro transactions shit
Good
>expansions shit
Are you of the brain damage?

>>384171653
BJ's not particularly fast, but those webms are not as fast as BJ can go if you're strafe jumping effectively. You don't seem to understand what you're even talking about.

>>384159451
lol, abilities are very powerful

Fuck off Bethesshills. Nobody wants a half arsed Overwatch meets Quake cash in dreamt up by suits with worthless MBA degrees who have never actually played Quake in their life.

>>384148748
Is it a full game yet?

I played it during closed beta and it felt REALLY unfinished. Did they finish making it, or are they just going to leave it as an incomplete early access shitfest forever and sell dlc and cosmetics anyway?

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>>384164261

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>>384166531
Don't you say a fucking word about mount and blade

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>>384159547
> typical Western ugly female face
Nyx is prettier than women have had a right to be in Western games in a long while, man. She actually looks like a human being and not some fucking horrid bone-structure accident that most games are going for these days.

I hope they put Lucy in the game and straightfaced play it off as being diverse. Would be funny as fuck to see what SJWs say.

>>384172381
Naw, I honestly consider actual proper expansions I.E diablo 2: lord of destruction, to almost be their own game. I meant more like the DLC jewery that goes on now like in fucking dead space three.
The whole design and idea of things like expansions was completely different than what it is today, and pretty much consider them completely different things.

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Watch Wichtl if you want to see FAST GAMEPLAY

>>384172271
Q3A wasn't very good even back then, being completely honest. Weapons were ok, animations were fucking ass, everything looked blurry and low res, it had a shitton of cheaters and no much variation of game modes. It was a niche game for very niche people from the start, pulled some normies when there was no other game like that back then, and then died into obscurity again.

>OH BUT THE QUAKE SCENE BEFORE TH-

Bullshit tiny community compared to what it is videogames today. Delusion and pettiness all around.

>>384171730
www.twitch.com

>>384172640
THICC

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>>384171336

>>384172638
M&B is some god tier shit bro, but have you fucking SEEN viking conquest?

>>384169430
it's actually worse, the game lies to your face about where the rocket is

Because I am already 30 and therefore too slow.

I am a quake III purist and will not accept anything else.

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Quake isn't even fast.

>>384171692
>ALL ANYONE WANTS IS FUCKING QUAKE THREE.
whoa...
dude...
did you know... that quake 3... still exists...
and you can even... play it... whoa...

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>>384172484
>Zero4 working in-studio at iD
>suits who never played Quake in their life
It also plays nothing like Overwatch. Skill-based movement has no place in Overwatch; we've seen the proof of that with Blizzard nerfing Doomfist on PTR because people were using his abilities to actually do fun shit and maneuver around the map, which they don't like.

>>384172756
I love the lack of the third bar titled "Quake 5 (or whatever the fuck), and him being happy that he got what he wanted. Which is exactly the fucking point.

>>384172729
If you post a link to an actual twitch channel, not just the homepage, you get a message that 4chan thinks your post is spam.

>>384173031
What would Quake 5 be? If it's just like the older Quakes it'll die like them, if it's different you'll all be screaming that it's not Quake.

>>384169438
>Beta means the game stand firm and solid and you want to test balance/server load.
Source?

>>384172724
>Q3A wasn't very good even back then
u wot

>>384173195
I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda made a SP-based Quake 5 with no multiplayer component, as Quake Champions would fill that role.

>>384173195
that's strange, because from what I can tell, at the very least people are extremely passionate about arena shooter games, quake in particular. It's almost like they where fantastic games for their time, and twenty years later it's dead because it's extremely dated and not very well aged, Something that a new one, would not be.

>>384152801
>Overwatch has identity

top kek

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>>384173031
you want to explain to me how your imaginary quake 5 doesn't fall under either criteria you stupid faggot