Admit it You're gonna buy this game

No, probably not. I played Moon, good enough for me. I'll wait til gen 8 now.

Hell no.

Sun was the first Pokemon game bad enough for me to want to drop it completely.

Also there's a FUCKLOAD of games for me to buy

>Strange Deep Journey
>Pokken DX
>Metroid: Samus Returns
>Mario Odyssey
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2

>>384138357
What exactly are they adding/changing in this shit?

>>384138357
I'll play it
It's a 3DS game dude no one buys 3DS games

>>384138690
Yeah

That's why Pokemon sold over 13 millions :^)

>>384138690
I do.

Because physical collections are important to me and piracy is a mistake in the long term.

>>384138357

This isn't /vp/. This is the most obvious, pointless fucking scam Game Freak's ever pulled.

>>384138814
That was before the 3DS got blowm n the fuck open

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>>384138690

>>384138357
I didn't even finish the mess that was Sun and Moon, so no. Who the fuck thinks it's okay to have 8 trainers on a route and give them all 2 Pokémon a piece? I get I know that I am playing a kid's game but that's boringly easy.

>>384138357
I haven't play a pokemon game since attempting Diamond, like 4 or so years ago. Has anything actually changed? I couldn't even finish Diamond cause it was just a monotonous and incredibly simple grind. Everyone was piss easy to defeat in battle so it felt like there wasn't even any point in putting any effort in...

Am I missing something that the Pokemon franchise offers? Or is every game literally the same in a new location with the added function of house decorating or Pokemon costumes? At least games like Call of Duty are mindless fun with their reskins, Pokemon is mindless but it isn't fun due to the lack of any real difficulty

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Literally couldn't even force myself through SUMO so that's fucking doubtful.
3DS Pokemon is unanimously garbage and I hate how much time I've spent this gen essentially "prepping" for the definitive version Gen 3, 4 and 5 got before I realized it's literally not happening this time.

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>>384139376
>SUMO
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>384138357
What's different in this game?
Why should I buy this?

>>384139560
New features, new Pokemon, alternative plot

>>384138357
I'm gonna pirate it and then probably never play it.

>>384138357
*Pirate

>>384138856
>piracy is a mistake in the long term.
lol for you maybe
I'll be fine saving 100s of dollars a year and game devs won't miss my one sale per game

>>384139514
RGBY
GSC
RSE
FRLG
DPPt
HGSS
BW 1/2
XY
ORAS
SUMO/USUMO

Not even remotely a difficult concept you actual retard.

>>384138357
Depends on how much new shit's in it. If it's just Sun/Moon 2 with nigger Solgaleo and Lunala then I'll just play with them on Smogon. If there's new megas (let me hope) then I'll get it.

>>384139764
No, they'll miss thousands of them over time because of thousands of people like you who think "one doesn't matter". Not to mention my collection gains in monetary value over time.

I did the whole piracy thing back on the DS. I regret it.

>>384138357
Yeah probably.

I'll have to see the changes but probably not. I'll wait for the next gen.

>buying 3ds games
LOL

>>384140049
>Not to mention my collection gains in monetary value over time.
Nigga go look at the price of PS2 and DS games right now. Something as widespread as the 3DS isn't going to have shitloads of value down the line. Especially since I'm assuming 90% of your library now counts as used.

Saturn? Dreamcast? WiiU? Specifically niche titles? Sure, those games will have increased value down the line. The average game doesn't, especially in a world of virtual consoles and emulation

>>384139924
>All of those have one initial per part of word
>Except Sun and Moon
Again, what the fuck is wrong with you?

I'll only buy it if there's a confirmed postgame at the end of the game.

I'm not falling for another lazy Pokemon game again.

>>384140284
Rolls off the tongue better and isn't an illusion to dom/sub sex you gigantic autist.

>>384140275
>Nigga go look at the price of PS2 and DS games right now.
Some of them are expensive as fuck.
>Something as widespread as the 3DS isn't going to have shitloads of value down the line.
Some of the games will.
> Specifically niche titles?
What and you think every Etrian Oddyssey and most of Atlus' special edition releases along with stuff like Tales of the Abyss, Kid Icarus with AR Cards and Plastic Stand and more don't count for anything?

Anyways, I'm not selling my collection. That's not the point.

>>384140383
>isn't an illusion to dom/sub sex
who cares you fucking redditor

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>>384140472
>See I save money on games in the long run because the value goes up

>>384140584
I never said I save money. I said my collection grows in value over time.

>>384138504
>Sun was the first Pokemon game bad enough for me to want to drop it completely

same here anon. X/Y was pretty bad, but OR/AS kinda saved my faith since i like hoenn. but holy shit was sun just a snooze fest.

>>384140540
Because Pokemon SM can cause Pokemon XD tier derailment.

Only if they fix the frames per second, ESPECIALLY ON THE NEW 3DS.

>>384139924
>USUMO

what the actual fuck

>>384138357
Probably not, formes are wasted potential the experience, most of the new monsters are meh/they didn't exploit the new space enough and limit breaks are an objectively worse gimmick then mega-evolutions.

t. evolution whore.

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>All these people hating on S/M
This surprises the hell out of me. Sun is tied with Sapphire as my second favorite game in the franchise. Top-tier music, fun characters, stellar monster design, vivid region, variant Pokemon, rideable Pokemon, gym trials, tasteful nostalgia pandering...

If you hated the trials for whatever reason I can understand not liking it, but everything else about the game was exactly what I wanted out of a Pokemon game. It shook up the formula just enough to keep things fresh but still familiar, and I legitimately loved all the new additions. I mean, Rockruff, Lurantis, Araquanid, Mimikyu, Golisopod. All 10/10. The only ones I'd consider a failure are the sandcastles, but otherwise to me Gen 7's roster is on par with gen 2.

>>384140670
SUMO does that because it's fucking retarded
Proof: this thread
SM is only thought of like that by moralfags such as yourself
Also
>XD
Fuck off

>>384140670
Good. Maybe we'll be able to discuss Gale of Darkness with that.

>>384140928
It was horseshit. Literal horseshit.

>Endless excessive exposition.
>Handholding so tight they might break your finger bones
>Almost no proper exploration
>Nonstop "drunk old Viridian man" style progression obstacles
>Z-Moves trivialize trainer/random fights even harder than anything before and the challenge of these fights isn't adjusted at all whatsoever to maybe compensate for Z-Moves.

It's awful. Like unforgivable. You must be vary patient with linear handholding bullshit if you liked S/M. It reaches whole new levels of stiflingly boring garbage. Previous games had a sense of freedom and exploration and Alola takes that feeling and skullfucks it with red flag icons and Lillie.

>>384140928
It was like playing the Pokemon game that shitposters pretend every Pokemon game is.

>>384138357
SM are literally the best and most difficult Pokemon games

No, I didn't even get through sun.

Still braindead tier easy, constant cutscenes, nope.

>>384140928
>otherwise to me worst gen's roster is on par with the previous worst gen

>>384139376
>>384139924
S&M retard

>>384141330
>just as much exposition as gen 5, the game that /v/ collectively creams itself over
>implying any pokemon game has ever NOT been linear, especially gen 5 which was literally a fucking circle

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>>384140928
>Sun is tied with Sapphire as my second favorite game in the franchise.
That's funny, because both gen 3 and 7 are my least favourites.

Dropped the series after the ice cream and keychain pokemon, megas being a digivolve instead of a side evolution made it even shittier.

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>>384141553
>he thinks that pokemon has ever been hard

>>384139514
>>384140839
redditors are afraid of saying SM since they're afraid of offending the BDSM community or some shit

>>384138357
no...no im not. pokemon is complete shit

Literally Zelda Cycle all over again

>>384138357
No. Im gonna pirate it.

>>384141779
I didn't play Gen 5 but I assume it wasn't so fucking linear, because it's the combination of those two factors that's so upsetting
>implying any pokemon game has ever NOT been linear
They were a lot less linear than S/M. SM will fucking quarantine you in places until you complete the appropriate story shit or whatever else. Other games would do so less openly by surrounding you with impassible obstacles rather than fences with wet paint or sleepy Furfrous.

>>384138357
Is GF so lazy that they cant even bother designing legendaries anymore? Even modern Digimon look better than the ones in the cover

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>>384142250
>but I assume it wasn't so fucking linear
anon it is literally a fucking circle, you cannot get more linear than that

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>>384142019
>Muh reddit
Wew it's like I'm really back in 2011
I literally didn't know that because I haven't followed gen 7 at all for ages. I called it SUMO because it turns it into a word and rolls off the tongue easily.

>>384138614
This. We have seen one teaser for it that barely shows anything. Isnt it coming out in a few months? It will probably be a quick cash grab before they move onto the next games.

>>384139373
Pokemon games are """"cinematic""" now. By which I mean some faggot npc will interrupt you every 10 steps and start a cutscene.

>>384141330
Maybe it's just because I legitimately enjoyed the story, but I didn't feel like I was being railroaded any harder than any other Pokemon game. Let's be real here, "exploration" in a Pokemon game past gen 3 is a joke to begin with. There's nothing to sequence break or discover that the game doesn't directly point you to. Everything is guided either by linear paths, roadblocks like the bridge in Gen5, or HM blocks that require you to beat a gym first. 'Freedom' just isn't something I expect in a Pokemon game, because that concept hasn't existed in almost 15 years.

Maybe after 20 years, the cracks in the franchise are just finally starting to irritate you?

As for Z-Moves, I just didn't use them very often. I understand why some people may feel irritated because if given the option, they'll use it and then complain about how broken it is. Same deal with mega evolution. For me personally, I just turn it off like the EXP share. After doing that and making sure not to overlevel, the game had a decent level of difficulty for me. I even died a few times on the Lurantis wombocombo since I didn't have a fire type.

>>384142436
Unova is based, fuck off newblood.

>>384142439
And because when the game first got announced until launch every other thread was being derailed by people laughing about Pokemon S&M

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>>384142250
Literally every game has had roadblocks, including the gen 5 that people shill so hard

>>384140472
>my collection's value goes up over time but capitalizing on that isn't the point
what scenario do you have in mind where your collection having value has any point besides selling it

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>he hasn't hacked his 3ds
dohohohoho

>>384142436
Yeah but you're a retard who didn't read my post.

I'm sure it's linear, but in ways that aren't complete garbage like S/M. Sun blocks you with a constant parade of time sensitive NPC shenanigans. Older games would block with you a body of water or a stone to use strength on. Otherwise I'd have heard complaints about this. I'm sure Gen 5 still lets you leave the new town and explore the surrounding area a little bit. S/M will tell you to go fuck yourself for trying that.

>>384138357
I wouldn't intentionally buy either of this. I would have bought Stars, but if they're going to bring it out on the Switch, I'll just go get that.

I'm glad you fucks came to your senses because everyone was circlejerking the fuck out of sun and moon back at launch. The game made XY look like a 10/10.

>>384142653
Yes and S/M is nonstop roadblocks.

That's the main difference here. I'm told my Gamefreak atleast every 30 minutes, to go fuck myself and waste more time talking to their stupid "Ideal Girl" trope whore Lillie.

>>384142687
See >>384142653, literally every game except the first two gens are extremely linear.

>>384142796
Just like literally every pokemon game
>what's that, an electric gym leader? It would be great if you could go into the nearby desert to catch a ground-type pokemon but NOPE ROADBLOCK LMAO

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>>384142436
Half of that is blocked off until you beat the elite 4 twice, faggot.

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>>384142653
Unova isn't my personal favorite map design and shit like that and the circle are exactly the reason I don't like it.

But taking that and just doing it even worse in gen 6 and 7 doesn't mean it suddenly became ok. It even got worse. Here you just see the line, maybe talk to one of them, and turn around. In gen 7 it's a 10 second unskippable cutscene about nebby getting into the bag for the 900th time and your non rival eating malasadas. Because they couldn't put that many characters on the screen without the game dropping to 5 FPS.

>>384138357
I'm gonna pirate the living shit out of it. To this day I have never purchased a "third version" game. Gamefreak, the barely-competent hacks they are, deliberately withholding content to encourage people to buy a version of the game that should have been the first one. They are a billion-dollar developer and they cut corners like no one's business.

You owe it to yourself to pirate all third versions of Pokemon. This is not the kind of shit you should bother supporting.

>>384142925
>it's actually even more linear until you beat the E4
Anon you are not helping your case

>>384141956
But the ground penis that became three ground penises or the magnet dud that became three magnet duds didn't turn you away.

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I bought the limited edition of this and the collectors edition of Mario Rabbids X-com

I'm selling both on eBay for a profit

Go fuck yourself :3

>>384139373
Go get Desmume and play Platinum. It's the good version of Diamond.

>>384142817
I've played them all except for 5. You're not understanding at all the ways in which S/M shits the bed.

>>384142913
Except for example: Lt. Surge in Vermillion City. You can go check out the fields outside town AND the diglett cave and if you've got a buddy who traded you somebody with Cut, you can even go into the area east of Cerulean and explore some shit over there too.

>>384138357
Holy shit is this real I thought this was a shitty photoshop

>>384142963
Roadblocks have been a thing since Gen 1
>oh look the first gym leader is in Pewter City! It would be nice to go on ahead and do some leveling
>haha NOPE! You're fucking trapped until you arbitrarily beat the first gym leader faggot!

>>384142817
>Sinnoh
>Linear
Hoenn I'll give you for most of it but even then it has an insane amount of exploration in the ocean. Even 5 has SOME exploration even if it isn't great. Gen 6 had a few tiny caves off the main road but it was almost entirely linear. Gen 7 is devoid of exploration and has been completely boiled it down at this point.

>Masuda says they don't want to make battle facility post games
>Don't need more old legendaries.

They're really gonna have to surprise me to get me to buy it.

>>384143171
And S/M turned them into their main method of story pacing. It's not okay.

>>384143171
>The games have always had some roadblocks so it's ok that gen 7 has an egregious amount of roadblocks

>>384142970
Games are just season passes for its generation now, adding minor things to the meta to keep it fresh.
Last year we had SM, this year UltraSM. Who's to say we won't get DP remakes next year to keep Gen 7 relevant while they plan Gen 8 for 2019?

i played alpha sapphire then sold my 3ds

>>384143189
>insane amount of exploration
you mean endless amounts of just water?

>>384140928
I don't hate S/M. It just wasn't that exciting. Everything felt slow. Dialog took forever, framerates were low just like Gen 6, and most of the pokemon were actually slow in terms of stats, making most battles take even longer since you were never going to get the first attack.

On top of that, there was nothing really keeping me invested in the game after completion. I finished the Alola dex and dicked around in the battle tree for a bit, but thats the same "postgame" that XY had. It brought nothing new to the table. I havent touched the game since. I do hope that US/UM gives us more shit to do in the game after the League.

It also brought very little to the "competitive scene" outside of UBs and Tapus which are all getting banned to shit

>>384141779
RBY - Could get Koga, Sabrina, and Erika's badges whenever you wanted.
GSC - Jasmine and Chuck in either
RSE - Brawly was optional until the league

Yes there were still roadblocks, but they weren't nearly as strict

>>384141786
>>384141569
See, this makes the most sense to me. Bullshit crying like "It's too linear!" and "It's too easy!" when it's been the exact same as every other Pokemon game is totally retarded. Gen 2, 3, and 7 are my favorites, while I hated gen 4 and 5. There are other people I know that share similar tastes, but those who favor 4 and 5 tend to also be the ones who throw gen 3 and 7 under the bus. I'm very interested in learning why that is.

What is it about these games, be it stylistically or mechanically, that separates these regions and creates such a large divide between fans?

>>384138357
>buy
lmao. I will play it tho.

>>384143270
>>384143273
Every game has been entirely dictated by roadblocks, people are just complaining about SM because of Zelda Cycle

>>384138357
It really depends on what they show in the coming months. I loved B/W2 thanks to the mall(that thing we traded a shitton of Magnemites to level up) and the mixed-up route progression. And the early Pokemon variety was unprecedented; you could get Riolu and a good handful of other Pokemon in the first two routes, and a there was a power plant before the first gym with a chunk of electric and poison types. Fucking ace.

They'd have to do that with S/M, do SOMETHING about the rampant mini-cutscenes at the start of the game that kept me from picking a starter for 40 goddamn minutes, and totally mix up the available early-mid game Pokemon. It was fine in the first S/M, but it simply has to be different for a fresh $40 experience.

>>384143360
Because the Pokemon fandom is the literal definition of nostalgiafaggory

>>384143419
No.

Because I fucking love most of the other Pokemon games I've played. There's no cycle. S/M is just legitimately crossing a line of shittiness that no other game has.

>>384143419
>A shitload of roadblocks with bad map design is comparable to the map design of the first 4 generations
Stop.

Literally just forced myself to get Lunalala in moon from starting it in november and I have no interest in continuing. While I've been doing this I've replayed Red and Yellow VC, replaced the battery in my silver and got to the kanto post game and am half way through crystal as well as playing all the other games I've bought. Gen 6 and 7 are fucking trash. They will have to do some serious work to make me buy it

>>384140383
and DP is an allusion to double penetration. Didn't stop people from calling it DP you autist.

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>>384143574
Yes

>>384138357
>You're gonna pirate it

Fixed it for you

I am, I mean i didn't really like s/m especially since they took out the national pokedex making it a bitch to keep boxes organized.

But I am, just because years ago i skipped Black 2 and white 2 only to realize it was the best game yet and sorely regret missing out on them.

i mean who am i kidding. i'm gonna pirate it

>>384138357
>Buy

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Still waiting for my Gen 4 remake. Maybe that's the game they're working on for the switch. I'd like that. I hope that's what they're actually doing.

>>384140664
you're fucking mental. X/Y were the best games since G/S/C

>>384140928
way too many cutscenes and dialogue dumps with no way to skip them.
encounter rates were fucked, which mean many pokemon were 1-5% encounter rates as well as SOS only encouters.

>>384143897
>there are people who actually defend X/Y now that they aren't the newest games anymore
and people think the Zelda Cycle isn't real

>>384143971
>bawww encounter rates are too low!
git gud

>>384138357
>You're gonna buy this game
>"""Buy"""
Pirate*

>>384143803
Remember that My Pokemon Ranch eshop game on Wii? I'd like them to release a good version of that on Switch as a companion app for the D/P remake, since originally Ranch came out in that gen.

I personally hope that "mainline" Switch game is a Colosseum-like, but I want D/P just as much. The Underground stuff better be fucking stellar and they better not mess up the route to Snowpoint.

>>384143972
I loved X/Y to bits when they released and still love them now. I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I too think they're G/S/C tier.

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>>384144050
>let me memespout for a roll of the RNG
(You)

>>384143972
I defended it since day one because it was actually good. ORAS were lazy and uninspired. Only Hoenn children defend it.

I'm thinking about getting a 3DS, but all of the Pokemon games released for it are mediocre to bad
So no, I'm not buying or pirating it

>>384144176
>you mean i actually have to LOOK for pokemon? why can't I just press a button to find them instantly bawwwww

>>384144165
>>384144253
LITERALLY Zelda Cycle

>>384143282
What the fuck kind of Stockholm syndrome are you suffering from?

>>384144295
X and Y are among the best games this/last gen let alone pokemon.

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>>384144335
Heres another one. I got a lot more if (You) want it.

barely finished moon. was depressingly bad, moreso than xyoras i think. last games that were good were on the ds

>>384144381
there's literally nothing wrong with the "zelda cycle". Why change up a formula that there's nearly nothing wrong with?

>>384144448
So no argument then? I thought not

>>384144531
>I have no idea what the Zelda Cycle is

>>384144157
That was my jam back then. Do you remember there was another pokemon game on the wii eshop? You could play as the pokemon themselves and it played like mystery dungeon. I played that one to death as well. I still can't believe I put in 500 hours into pearl though.

>>384144590
again, it's a formula. Manchildren just complain about everything even when they are given exactly what they ask for.

>>384144157
>Remember that My Pokemon Ranch eshop game on Wii? I'd like them to release a good version of that on Switch as a companion app for the D/P remake, since originally Ranch came out in that gen.

Bank is the storage app for the indefinate future.

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>>384144535
I completed the Alola Dex. It's obnoxious that the new pokemon you want to use has a 1% encounter rate, meanwhile Wiingull/Pelliper, Faticate and Gumshoos have a 30%+ encounter rate on more than half the routes in the game.

But here's another one, piping hot, fresh from the oven.

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>>384144780
>waaaaaaaaaaaaah I have to actually LOOK for pokemon instead of them just being handed to me FAKE DIFFICULTY REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>literally complaining that a fucking pokemon game is too hard

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I liked Sun and Moon but it's nowhere near my favorite Gens (4 and 5)
The Good:
>Music
>A tad more difficult than X/Y
>Better story than X/Y and better character designs
>Evil team is comically retarded instead of pathetically retarded

The Bad:
>Too forgiving with heal spots/items
>MC is just a plot device for the real protagonist (Lillie)
>Lusamine isn't explored enough despite interesting premise
>Trial structure is neat but isn't as engaging as gyms.
>World is far too linear and straightforward. Towns and cities are too barren.
>Dungeons are incredibly underutilized/simplified.
>Z-Moves, like Megas, are a cheap gimmick to appeal to children with low attention spans by waving something flashy in their face. They take away from the charming simplicity of Pokemon in favour of over the top anime action.
>No fucking national dex, pay for Pokebank goyim

Despite all these issues I still like it more than X/Y for some raisin.

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>>384138357
fuck no. i thought the legendary's were bad before but these are fucking hideous

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>>384144924
I'll do this for as long as you're willing to bb.

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>>384145017
>still no argument

>>384144935
Trials are much better and more interesting than Gyms, Trials are actually challenging sometimes

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>>384145070
>already pointed out my argument
>you ignore it to say "wah pokemon is too hard" when I didn't even say that once in my statements
Like I said, I got plenty of these (You). I know someone like (You) doesn't have any of them, and I'm willing to give them out.

>>384144723
>I have no idea what the Zelda Cycle is

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>>384145263
"waaaaaaaah is too hard" is not an argument anon
>still no argument

>>384138357
Wrong board, anon. /v/ hates nu-pokemon.

>>384145325
The zelda cycle exactly that: manchildren complaining when they get exactly what they asked for. Saying the phrase "Zelda cycle" is not a fucking argument.

>>384145190
I just find that gamefreak fell for the "POKEMON NEVER CHANGES" meme that normalfags and /v/tards perpetuate.

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no, no i'm not. megas and everything afterwards completely ass fucked any fun this game had in player battles. i'd rather play PokeMMO.

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>>384145405
Aren't I just such a nice guy? No one else would give (You) this much attention. (You) honestly should thank me for making your Sunday at least somewhat eventful.

>>384145585
In this case it was for the better, trials are a fun shakeup of the same formula and again are actually challenging sometimes. Meanwhile I dare you to find a single challenging gym battle
>inb4 Whitney
maybe if you're five

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>>384145678
>he STILL has no argument

>>384145729
Wattson

>>384138357
I brought Sun and regretted it, so no.

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Let's add some saturated colours and flowers and sell the same game for retail price.

Fuck off. Anyone who buys this will give every reason to gamefreak to keep making low effort shitty games

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>>384145785
How many Smug anime faces do you have? As much as I have (You)'s?

>>384145861
>literally only if you chose torchic as your starter, otherwise you're guaranteed to have a pokemon that resists or outright nullifies electric

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>>384145929
Yes

>>384138357
I'm going to pirate it.

>>384140928
>surprise
S/M has been shat on since release, where the hell have you been?

>>384145729
Brock in Yellow

Moon was one of the worst times ive ever had in gaming. The constant cutscenes, handholding and framerate drops made the game nearly unplayable for me

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>>384140928
I thought it was really good the first time through, but once the hype veil wore off it was pretty tedious on a repeat playthrough, mostly because of the excessive cutscenes and railroading

Plus while I love a lot of the gen 7 pokemon they made the baffling decision to make a lot of them obnoxiously rare and hard to find, while only giving alolan forms to gen 1 pokemon

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>bottom screen gone
>map is displayed at all times with a big red flag just to make sure you don't get immersed in the game in any way
>Rotom constant quips that makes catching new pokemon annoying
>clothes are total shit
>Day-care system is fucked
>starters are the worst of any generation, not a single one is good
>constant cutscenes and dialogue from rivals/friends/professor to make sure you don't start feeling any sense of exploration
>fishing is fucked beyond repair
>using the GTS is a pointless hassle
>"see that area over there? Well, buy the next game and maybe you'll get to go there!"
>no post-game at all, instead we get Looker 'go here and come back' missions again
>intricate caves are a thing of the past, even Victory Road is three linear rooms
>"lol it's not a Battle Maison copy if we turn it into a tree!"
>not a single challenging battle in the whole game, no trainer even has a full team
>pokerider was a good idea but had terrible execution, there was no need to get rid of bikes

Anyone who liked Sun and Moon, defend this shit.

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>>384146082
Ah, I see. That's a lotta smug images.

>>384146229
Mankey

>>384145729
Brawley was pretty challenging in Emerald.

would only buy if sumo fixes everything that made sm shit but even then i would wait and not buy it at full price

>>384146334
>literally complaining about maps
>clothes are the best they've ever been
>day-care is much better now that you don't have to worry about pokemon forgetting moves in the daycare, anybody who used it to level shit up was a casual anyway
>literally all of the starters are good unlike V where none are
>just like gen 5 and 6
>GTS has always been shit
>postgame has literally always been shit
>literally defending HMs

>>384144627
Yeah I remember several other shop games, but not a Mystery Dungeon-like. Do you mean Rumble? It was top-down and you explored closed environments, with musou-ish gameplay.

That was a great time, when Nintendo discovered small digital, experimental games. I don't think they make as many eshop originals, and it gets offloaded to indie devs more than anything.

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>>384146346
Indeed

>>384146532
Not really

>>384146667
Keep chugging that Gamefreak and Nintendo cum.

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>>384138357
Nah, Sun and Moon made me sick of Pokemon for the first time since coming back to the series after X and Y. I binged HG, SS, D, B2, and OR as well and wasn't sick of Pokemon even after all of that but playing though Sun finally did me in.

Among the other problems I have is the fact that Festival Plaza is terrible. Game Freak reinvented the wheel for no reason. PSS worked perfectly well.

>>384146871
Keep chugging that nostalgiafaggotry

>>384146669
I think that's it, yeah. I remember you could play co-op, which was fun.

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>No new alola forms
>No new megas

>>384146261
Good pokemon should be hard to find

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Only if I can romance fem skull grunt

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Only if i can romance /ourgirl/ Lillie

>forced 2 hour tutorial
Fuck Sun and Moon.

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I'll need more info on what the new stuff game offers before I buy it. If its mostly the same and still has that shitty Festival Plaza I'm not fucking buying it.

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>>384147085
>make game-breaking addition to battle system
>stop working on it next gen entirely
>donwplay it by hiding it behind post-game and giving Megas unflattering dex entries
>nothing was fixed, all the Megas that were OP last gen still are

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Can I romance Lusamine?

>>384138357
I bought my 3DS basically just for pokemon so yeah I'm going to buy one. Stuff like SMT4 and zero escape were just bonuses from my point of view

>>384147389
>used goods
>literal ayy lmao fucktoy

>>384147319
>enter new route
>cutscene with bimbo
>walk a bit
>cutscene with nigger
>walk a bit
>cross roads with block everywhere except for the route you are forced to take
>enter
>cutscene

never again will i play this shit

if they do away with the garbage pacing so I can actually play the game then sure

>>384146667
>literally complaining about maps
Well, if it's on the whole time with no way to turn it off and it also displays where you have to go is beyond retarded.
>clothes are the best they've ever been
That's wrong.
>day-care shitty argument
I'm not talking about leveling up pokemon. I'm talking about the retarded decision to have eggs be predetermined even before you drop the parents off.
>starters
They're awful. Incineroar just looks awful. Primarina would have been fine if it had been female only or not a starter. Decidueye is passable for a starter but it doesn't change its shit design
>It's okay when the other gens do it
When did I excuse them?
>GTS has always been shit
No it wasn't. Using it was quick unlike now where you have to go through a loading screen and enter the shitty festival shit
>postgame has literally always been shit
This has been true since X and Y, all other past generations had good post game
>literally defending HMS
I wasn't. I said the poke rider had bad execution. The horse pokemon serves no purpose except for like two areas, same with Machomp.

>>384147340
It's crazy to me that they had basically a perfect online system in X/Y and OR/AS and then scrapped it for the terrible festival plaza

>set up swords dance
>use type effective move
pokemon is so fun and complex guys

>>384147571
>he doesn't like wrasslecat
what shit taste

>>384138357
I'm gonna buy it on freeshop.

>>384147623
Gamefreak policy: If it ain't broke, replace it with something worse.

>>384147704
Barabait cat is not good

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SM are the greatest pokemon games for 2 reasons

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>>384147389
Imagine if her and Lillie switched places for the game.
>>384147490
>not wanting to make her so smitten with you after rescuing her and bringing her back from the brink of insanity through love and care that she proposes to you
homo detected

Who here /sunandmoonwereuttertrash/? Easily one of the worst games I've ever played

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>>384148329
>wanting to fuck a hole with ayylmao cum still dripping out of it
>while her infinitely hotter, cuter, sexier and purer daughter is available

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>pirate Moon
>game is a huge fucking railroad filled with story event and cutscenes
>cannot enter a single fucking town without a character popping out from the side, stopping you, and explaining some story nonsense
>somehow make it to the end when you're rewarded with a 30 minute cutscene and you're forced into a fight against a legendary
>hack Gold and Emerald on my 3DS after finishing that shit
>games are miles more fun
>much more emphasis on adventure and exploration
>actual fucking dungeons
>minimal handholding and story railroading

I'm convinced that the games have just gotten worse over time. Fuck anyone who says "lel SM is like all the other games". Pokemon would be so much better if GF would just stop trying to force story into these games for no good reason. These developers need to realize that story does not make a game better.

>>384147704
only barafags liked it. Why else do you think a lot of people are excited over the rumor that the starters are going to have alternate evolutions?

that rumor is retarded a fuck

>>384148217
I think they did to get people ready for switch Pokemon. Get used to it. Because it's 1 screen no more 2 screen. Festival plaza fits 1 screen more and pss is limited to 2 screens

>>384145902
This.

>>384148550
GSC are shit though, easily the most overrated pokemon games

>>384148695
lol gtfo underage

>>384148489
Coming from a fan of Pokemon. Who doesn't play many games outside of Pokemon. It may of been the worst I played.

The railroading on a 240p is one of the worst experiences I have seen. Game freak awful at stories. So makes it makes even worse. All the railroading leads to absolutely nothing. Couldn't battle lusamine as a fusion

>>384148569
I mean it could literally just be a pop up menu. Doesn't need a second screen at all.

>>384148764
enjoy that garbage pokemon distribution and that godawful level curve
>johto pokemon like houndour are exclusive to fucking kanto for no reason
wew

>>384138357
Fuck no
Gen 7's starters and Pokemon are absolute shit and if Alola's anything like it was in Sun, it'll be an unenjoyable slog again. This is the gen they should've skipped doing rehashes for

>>384148942
>this amount of shit taste

>>384148850
I still don't get what the purpose of Team Skull was other than the shitty twist.

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>>384138357
Is there an epilogue where Lillie comes back?

No?

Then fuck no

>>384148942
Boy if you don't like Decidueye you're crazy

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>>384149038
She's a big girl for /u/

>>384149016
>I have no actual argument

>>384138357
In gen V i buyed only the second chapter and it was great, I could do the same now.

>>384138357
With Gold and Silver vc, Samus Returns, Cuphead, Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2. Not sure I'll have time.

>>384149038
>wanting that piece of shit hounding you every other route again

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>>384138357
No way I will

>>384149249
The same game director is possibly directing. So maybe it's good u waited. Hopefully post game is good

>>384148489
The first time I played it I concluded it was a good game, but I had a slight nagging feeling throughout the experience that I ignored that was due to its various flaws.

I tried playing the game again and again since and haven't lasted an hour. I gave the game a chance but USUM will be the first game I'm going to skip. Once you realize how easy it isfor GF to improve these games it becomes apparent how lazy and incompetent they are. I bared it for XY ("they had to spend time making models), and for ORAS (it's a remake) but SM is unforgivable. This franchise deserves no more support and it feels good walking away.

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>>384149268
>GS vc
>literally paying for ROMs

>>384149330
>no actual argument

>>384148329
I'm gonna need sauce on this.

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I pirated moon. I was not blown away by any means, but apparently my standards were set extremely low after playing Y/OR and I didn't hate the game as much as some others here. I'll pirate UM, but the only way I'll buy it is if my standards are exceeded (unlikely).

Fuck OR by the way. It's like they somehow made my favorite gen worse. They changed what didn't needed to be changed like the safari zone and the caves, while fucking around with shit like neo-mauville. It was ugly as shit because it was using the gen 6 engine, so everyone had those fucked overworld bodies, and there was just square patches of everything because it wasn't meant to be a 3D game. Delta episode was bad and not worth it, the one cool thing that would have come form it, riding mega ray into space to fight deoxys, was spoiled months before the game came out by gamefreak themselves. The only thing I can remember that I actually liked was Leader Maxie's revamped theme. I was looking forward to the next HG/SS and got a slap in the face. This can't just be me, right?

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>>384138357
>buy
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HAAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAAH
BUY
3DS GAME
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>>384149406
HG/SS were also shit

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>>384149295
She can hound me any day she wants if you know what I mean

>>384138357
Eh, depends. I am not a fan of how little they have shown off, and while I loved S/M, it was lacking in a lot of areas post-game and felt severely cut down.

If they can make a BW2-level amount of content in the game, then I will be satisfied and pick it up. As-is? Meh. It is the first updated re-release that I am not all that interested in.

>>384145017
surprised nobody replied OVERWATCH LUL

>>384149406
Dunno how you wound up preferring Moon to Y/OR when Gen 7's worse than Gen 6 in every way

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>>384149730
PFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>384149350
But you can transfer gold and sliver mons to poke bank with original ability

>>384138357
I didn't buy the RS remakes, I didn't buy Alola version 1. Why would I buy Alola version 1.5?

>>384138357
I was thinking of pirating sun. Should I just wait for the ultra release or is it a sequel?

Reminder that people were saying literally the same things they're saying about SM about XY/ORAS back then, and now all of a sudden people are coming out of the woodwork saying that XY and ORAS were always amazing. Reminder that this will happen with SM once Gen 8 comes out

>>384149405
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2091911#search=Lusamine

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>>384149406
>they couldn't even be bothered to make alolan forms for Solrock and Lunatone to unfuck their shit and make them usable

Sun/Moon a shit

>>384149730
My standards were probably lowered and I liked what was going on with Team Skull much more than Team Flare, who I still don't really understand what was trying to accomplish other than nuke the world.
I understand both suck, but I can't remember fucking anything from Y without needing to look it up first, no character made a solid impression on me. The most I can tell you from what I remember is the early game was not good because it's like 4 towns between the first couple of gyms then they're all crammed together, and that for everyone bagging on S/M for this, they seem to forget garbage that X/Y pulled like being forced to watch fireworks with Shauna.

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>>384150073
>paheal

>>384150061
People are actually saying XY are amazing? What the fuck.

>>384150058
It's like crystal, platinum, emerald not like BW2. It's gonna be a better version of Sun and moon. Which isn't saying much. Pirate that game

Nope. There hasn't been a Pokemon game worth buying since HG/SS.

>>384150073
Thanks anon. I was looking through archived threads and several sites to find it.

>>384150119
>make game called sun and moon
>don't feature or change the two pokemon that are literally a sun and a moon
what the fuck were they smoking over there

>>384150119
>Pokemon Sun and Moon
>No Solrock or Lunatone
>Set on the Hawaiian Islands
>No Bellossom.

>>384150224
See >>384144412
>>384144253
>>384143897
>>384142784

>>384149770
>remove the PSS in exchange for a shitty festival
>remove the national dex from the game because
>remove the Dexnav
>remove horde battles
>make the framerate in battles even worse
>Pokemon selection is a complete downgrade from X and Y
>plot and terrible npcs railroad you more than they have the entire series, making even XY's shitty group of friends seem tolerable by comparison
Your shitty loli needed to fuck off as well

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>>384138357
SM were actually fun unlike XY and ORAS so yeah, I probably will. Just UM though, I don't buy both anymore like a fucking retard.

>>384150214
neck yourself rirrie

>>384150248
HG/SS is fucking garbage
>fixes none of the many issues with GSC like terrible mon distribution and awful level curve
>safari zone is such a clusterfuck of bad ideas that they abandoned it forever afterward
>literally just a shiny new coat of paint on a bad game
>b-b-b-b-but muh following pokemon!

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This was the only redeeming part about Sun and Moon

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>>384150638
>unironically using paheal

>>384146929
This. I hated gen 6 but goddamn if it's online features weren't smooth as butter. They screwed the pooch with Festival Plaza.

>>384150706
What a fucking total bro tier Pokemon. Wasn't expecting to use him through the whole game but god damn, absolutely one of my MVPs.

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>>384150605
Lillie was actually a good character though unlike your annoying-ass friends in XY

>>384138357
Nope. Wasn't too fond of Sun and honestly I kinda wanna see this have low sales.

>>384150706
so fucking based
>was using the grooming feature on my team
>Muk is the only one who responds by getting excited when summoned and even enduring a hit that would normally kill him because he loves me so much
B A S E D

Pokemon ultra sun and moon steel books are 9th on Amazon best sellers videos in USA

And 3rd on Amazon Canada best sellers video games w

With no infomation and 120 days left. Pokemon fans will eat any shit up

>>384150843
>Lillie
>a good character
No, she was just annoying and needed to fuck off or become a trainer instead of stalking you. Hopefully she stays in Kanto

>>384149392
I don't have to provide an argument for my personal experience with the game and the 3DS era in general, faggot.

It's as simple as saying the series is consistently not meeting the standards it set for itself in previous generations. I remember when GF strived to add content and not remove it.

>>384151105
>With no infomation
Fucking thank god, they finally learned that showing fucking everything about the game kills the hype.

>>384150348
Gamefreak is not a very good developer, period. They've been riding hard off the pokemon franchise. Anything else they churn out is generally mediocre at best, completely forgotten/ignored at worst.

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>>384151187
But SM is literally the best generation, give me any other generation and I'll list just as many flaws as people have pointed out about SM

>>384151218
I wouldn't be that happy anon. The last time they kept so quiet, was during the RS remake. They literally kept from mentioning the exclusion of the Battle Frontier for as long as they could.

>>384151435
>The last time they kept so quiet, was during the RS remake
The fuck are you talking about? They revealed every single new mega evolution and the delta episode before it released.

>>384151435
Battle Frontier was a shitty RNGfest anyway

>>384151360
>best gen
Just because it provided you with a crappy pair of lolis doesn't mean it's even remotely good

>>384151671
Just because you played your favorite gen back when you were 8 doesn't mean it's even remotely good

>>384151543
Yes they did, but they never gave any indication that the Battle Frontier wasn't going to be in it. Whether you like it or not it doesn't matter, they knew every single person who wanted a remake was going crazy over the Battle Frontier and decided to keep quiet for as long as possible.

So them keeping quiet is not a good sign since it could mean that they know the reveals won't be popular.

>>384151825
Or maybe they just "kept quiet" about it because there was nothing to show

>>384151825
Why the fuck would they mention it if they weren't including it? That would be fucking retarded marketing.

>>384151825
We got infomation June e3 with the trailer

It's a remake of ruby and sapphire. Was BF in ruby and sapphire

>>384151750
Shouldn't you not be posting here then kid?

>>384152045
What are you even trying to say?

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>>384150843
Lillie was a shit character. Gladion was much better.

>>384152104
Just because you played your favorite gen back when you were 8 doesn't mean it's even remotely good, anon

>>384151907
>>384151929
Literally everyone expected it to be in. They fucking knew that for a fact. That's why they never talked about the Battle Resort at all.

>>384152010
>"It's perfectly okay for Gamefreak to exclude shit from Emerald, which is what made people want Hoenn remakes in the first place."

This resulted in people preferring Emerald over a 3D game made 10 years later, because it has more features than ORAS.

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I want to pee on and be peed on by Lillie.

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>>384138357
yes

>>384152550
>R and S didn't have Battle Frontier
>ORAS is a remake of R and S, not E
>people surprised that ORAS don't have Battle Frontie
hmm

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>>384152625
>cumdump
Lillie is for Chicken's cunny juices only

>>384152742
>Same thing happens
>People make the same complaint

haha

most frustrating thing about these threads is having to scroll through all the underage who first game was x/y :/

>>384152742
Big difference
>BW2 were the first sequels in the series and fans underestimated how awesome that was going to be
>USUM is in part shitty because it's abandoning that new standard

>>384152865
Black2/White2 turned to be pretty great games tho
>>384152962
still unsure about that since we haven't got that much info about USUM yet

>>384152757
>G and S didn't have Eusine, Suicune battle, Battle Frontier, Pokeathlon, or Safari Zone
>HGSS is a remake of G and S, not C
>retards excusing ORAS for not doing the same
hmm

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>>384142436
>a fucking circle, you cannot get more linear than that

do you know what linear means?

>>384142019
>a japanese way of shortening titles is Reddit

>>384152742
Black and White are better than Sun and Moon

>>384152742
Except that Black and White were decent so making them great was easy.

Sun and Moon are total lazy shit and given Gamefreaks latest lazy batch of games with no post game, things don't look good for the new versions.

>>384153207
(you)

>>384138357
Are they getting rid of the constant fucking cutscenes?

Because if not, then no, I'm not touching that shit.

>>384153392
Isn't an argument

>>384153334
A
FUCKING
CIRCLE

I literally have not bought a Pokémon game since Platinum

Every gen after 4 is liquid shit

What does Lillie's bed smell like?

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>>384153729
Lillie

Why was Alola as simplistic as it was? The only time I was ever confused when going through the game was when I couldn't figure out how to progress in Cinnabar's Pokemon Mansion because it wasn't clear you were supposed to throw yourself off the top floors

>>384153729
Urine and Kukui's cum

>>384143897
No, you're insane. X/Y, ESPECIALLY coming off BW2, are barebones and mindless as all hell

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Where's my Alola Leaf Gamefreak?

>>384138357
>possible Takao Unno
Yes of course I'll buy it.

Take some queue's from BotW about handholding. Also include a fucking hard mode again, and from the start this time.

>>384140928
If it makes you feel better I think it's just /vp/ spillover shitting on it with their predictably terrible taste. None of the people I know who played it disliked it.

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>>384154148
>leaf will never be canon

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>>384138357
>buy

I played Moon, couldn't get past the tutorial. It just drags on an on. I think I'm done with Pokemon.

>>384153585
You really want to compare Black and White's map to Alola? Really?

>Black and White have dungeons
>Sun and Moon have small empty rooms with single items
>Black and White have large Victory Road
>Sun and Moon have three small linear rooms
>Black and White have dungeon you can explore after the game is over, along with three new towns, and routes.
>Sun and Moon has three new routes and a copy/paste battle facility
>Black and White have 14 towns and 23 routes
>Sun and Moon have 9 towns and 17 routes

>>384138357
I dropped Sun and Moon early, like after the 2nd totem. I just couldn't care to play it anymore. It's the only Pokemon game I've dropped aside from Black and White.

So to answer your question; Yes, I will still pirate Ultra Sun/ Ultra Moon

>>384154551
Kek, Black and White actually have 15 towns, forgot to count Anville Town. It would be 16 if I counted the bridge village place btw.

>>384154551
>Vast Poni Canyon is the actual Victory Road
>Kala'e Bay
>The entirety of Poni Plains
also fucking kek complaining about SM when praising BW when BW are just as cutscene-heavy and story-focused as SM

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>>384152550
>GF showed damn near everything about the game, from new megas to delta episode to changed areas to redesigns
>but that doesn't count because they never said there would be no BF.

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>4 months until release and we still don't know jack shit about it
Was it like this with B2/W2? Regardless I'll probably pick it up since it's the only game coming out November that I'm interested in.

>>384138357
I might. Third versions/sequels are usually good and I haven't played any of the 3DS Pokemon games, so there should be a lot of "new" Pokemon for me to try out.

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>>384154903
>"t-that victory road doesn't count!!!"
>actually bringing up Kala'e Bay and Poni Plains

Are you trying to imply those are dungeons? Because if you are then calling you retarded won't be enough.

>>384155179
>b-b-but those don't count!
nice goalpost-moving

>>384155163
I don't know if that's how BW2 actually was but I ignored any news about them either way and when I actually played them it was amazing. Gamefreak revealing absolutely everything about their games before release is 100% a mistake on their part, Pokemon is so much better when you don't know what is going to happen. Seriously, imagine playing SM without knowing about the UBs. Would have made it a much better game.

>>384148695
(U)

>>384154903
Black and White aren't as obnoxious with their shitty plot and their railroading as SM. A good example is route 1 once you've gotten your starter
>can't take the grass free path you took moments earlier
>game forces a mandatory encounter with Pikipek in the first patch of grass

>>384155272
They're literally not dungeons. Kala'e Bay is just one big spacious space with like two trainers, and Poni Plains is linear as fuck to the point where it's literally impossible to get lost, so calling them dungeons is literally wrong.

>>384148550
Fucking this.
I hope they fix this shit in the incoming games. Or else they totally deserve the shit they gonna get.

>>384155575
>he actually gets lost in pokemon dungeons
holy shit anon how bad can you be

>Still shilling out $50 for the same game every year

This is worse than CoD

>>384155516
>muh daddy issues
>muh autism

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When will GF bring back old designs?

>>384152742
This is why I'm cautiously optimistic about USUM. BW2 were the best games in the series.

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>>384143897
>Nuzlocked Y

>Didn't even have to grind more than 2 levels early after the first gym, the rest I just went on autopilot

You know a pokemon game is too easy when you can Nuzlocke without grinding or even losing an early pokemon.

>>384155726
>Lillie, Hau or Kukui nearly every route
>muh nebby and WOW POKEMON
>muh nice guy rival
>obnoxious faggot professor

>>384155956
There was that one guy pretty early who had dragon rage, I think I lost one to him

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Why is she so lewd lads?

>>384140284
it's to avoid confusion
>S = Silver
>SU = Sun
plus SU/M looks fucking retarded compared to SU/MO

I have bought every new pokemon game (not remakes or yellow versions) since the series came out when I was in gradeschool. The story was never great, but I usually had enough fun playing around with my team that it didn't matter.

Pokemon Moon was the one exception to that. The story was so bad, and took up so much time to slog through, that I just gave up around 3/4ths of the way through and haven't touched it since.

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>>384150918
>using Pokémon Refresh
No wonder you retards thought SM were too easy.

>>384156034
>nice guy rival
Gladion wasn't nice.

>>384156034
>gladion is there for "muh edgy rival"fags
>implying kukui isn't based and best "champion"

Of course
Sun/Moon was my favorite Pokemon game in a very long time. I'm definitely ready for more. I just hope its different enough to be worth the cost of a new Pokemon game

>>384138357
Only if they reduce the cutscenes so it actually feels playable, but we all know that ain't happening.

SM was the only Pokémon i EVER dropped, even including spinoffs.

>>384155956
Did you turn off exp share?

>>384140049
like that matters to me
nothing better than chilling in bed pirating the whole 3ds library

>>384143675
Can you read? People are saying it has much MORE in them.

It's like you've put 10 spoons of sugar in someone's coffee and are justifying it against complaints by going "Well I put 2 spoons in yesterday and you didn't have a problem with that".

>>384156238
No one cares about your shitty opinion

Shit eating faggot.

>>384138357
Nah, after what they did to me in ORAS, won't fall for the same trap so easily. I don't regret a single bit for passing on SM, even more now that they are making a third version in the year after.

Good luck for ya'll who somehow still want to buy this travesty of a franchise