Desktops are obsolete

>buy two machines with weak gpus and cpus instead of one machine with a strong cpu and gpu
Desktop + chromebook is cheaper than gaming laptop + console

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>>384131557
chromebooks are comfy

Never ever buy a GIGABYTE brand laptop as long as you live, worst decision I ever made. The ASUS/MSI ones are the best, my first two laptops were both ASUS ROG's, so I tried something different. 2 years later my soundcard melted as well as my bluetooth, because the "advanced cooling system" is a bullshit lie.

>>384131970
Don't blame Gigabyte for treating your laptop like shit.

5 gigabyte products here, lasted forever.

Asus/MSI guarantee will break the day after your warranty is out. I run an IT shop and my backlog is filled with this junk. "Republic of GAmers"

Every fat fucker with money comes in with one.

>>384132538
>treated my laptop like shit
How? I even bought a cooling pad specifically so this would NOT happen. What a fucking joke.

>>384131429
>using laptops
fucking kill yourself laptops are garbage

>>384132741
>blames it on "advanced gigabyte cooling"
>adds in another cooling

You bought the same meme that helped RROD 360's back in the day. Same iwth PS3.

At no point in time will an aftermarket cooler work. It is not universal as the direction of airflow on laptops aren't the same. You can instead prevent airflow from circulating correctly, thus building up heat forever.

This is how the fat fucks break their shit.
Because they run high end games nad build up ridiculous heat and fucking fry their stuff.

Their laptop is screaming in pain but it's muffled by a fucking aftermarket cooler.

>>384131429
Gaming laptops are only excusable when someone travels a lot or stays away from home during weekday.

>>384131429
Desktop are obsolete?
In a world dominated by mobile devices that fit in your pocket and cloud computing for everything else?

Wrong friendo. If anything traditional laptop/notebooks are being phased out for more convenient alternatives.

I've never had a laptop work well as a gaming device, at least to the same quality as a desktop. There's always heat issues, and even when they're dispersed, it's loud as shit.

Poor fag here, would I be better off buying a 500-600$ gaming laptop or pre built desktop?

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>>384131429
>acer in image

>>384133560
Desktop.
Unless you have mental illnesses.

>>384131429
>you need a 500$+ laptop for university/work

Are you fucking retarded? Some second hand shit for 20 bucks from amazon will do. You are supposed to work on the darn thing not play the newest game at 1080p and 144 fps.

>>384131429
The main drawback to gaming laptops is that you can't upgrade them very much. That gtx 1050 may be passable for now, but in 3 years it'll be pretty bad, and there's nothing you can do about it. Your cpu, ram, hard drive, and screen may all work fine, but video cards age quickly.

>>384131429

How can desktops compete against 5 hour battery life and 70c temps blown on their crotch?

>>384131429
>£

How can people use this pretend Monopoly money and not feel ashamed of themselves?

>>384133974
>5 hour battery life
Maybe web browsing. I own a last gen gaming laptop that i bought cheap off of a friend and it lasts about an hour on battery, and can't run the video card full speed on battery due to power limitations.

get ready for when you have to throw those shitty laptops into rubbish in a couple years.

>i5 u versions with downclocked 1050
Yeah, spend money in that garbage you cant even upgrade in the future.

>>384134137
While gaming it lasts an hour on battery. Web browsing is maybe 4.

>>384132741
You never buy an aftermarket cooler. They usually increase temps and restrict airflow.

>>384133560

I've seen some good prebuilt deals by cybertron lately. This is only because of how drastic GPU prices are at the moment.

>>384134310
you don't need good specs to play all the indie PC exclusives

>MSI
>literally melted the plastic off because of heat issues
>4 years later and it is still working

>>384134627
Usually the games which are most intensive are PC exclusives like PUBG due to shit optimisation.

>>384131429
>gaming laptops
Don't forget that laptops are much more expensive to upgrade than desktops.

>>384134356
Buy those vacuum fans that you need to stick into the fan outlet. Those works.

>gaming laptops
Enjoy your diagonal screen tearing senpai. They still haven't fixed Nvidia Optimus.

>>384135112
I have a gaming laptop right now with a 960m, and i'm never buying another unless they fix this issue. It's total bullshit.

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>>384131557
>desktop + chromebook
Truly patrician-tier

>>384134914
Laptops aren't supposed to be upgraded, you just buy a new one

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>>384135302
>965m
I thought I was the only one

Eh, problems with laptops are more deeply rooted than just performance. You always have a cramped flat keyboard and a small screen fixed in an uncomfortable position. I mean it works if you have no choice, but the user experience is horrible compared to desktops.

>>384131429
No, desktops still have their purpose. Most laptops are built like shit so they break easier. Laptops also take on more abuse than desktops because you can carry them somewhere and you are always opening and shutting the screen. Buying a super expensive "gaming laptop" that'll bust a few years down the road is a pointless purchase. Plus such laptops tend to be power hungry whores so it limits your mobility. Might as well just have a desktop.

>>384131429
>gaming
>laptop
lol

>>384133560

>pre built or laptop
neither. Build your own.

>>384131429
>he doesn't build his PC.
I distinctly remember someone on /v/ offering 100$ to whoever could make a computer as good as the scorpio for like 500$.
When someone did, and posted with their PayPal, their next post was a PayPal message for 100$

>>384138739
I don't think you can beat the consoles for their initial price. It's obviously much easier to once the online tip for 5 years is factored in though

>>384137281
This.
I'm a poorfag so a laptop is what I have.
I got mine cheap and it runs most games decently.
I also work at a job with a lot of downtime so it's more convenient for me.
But if I had a choice I'd ditch the laptop for a desktop in heartbeat. I can't because I'm broke.

This is exactly my setup, except I only have toaster laptop with IGPU and PS4 + XO.

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>>384131429
>consolelard trying to justify his 30FPS 720p machine in 2017
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>384131429
I'm not even pc master race because consoles are the future but even I know laptops are a poor choice because they can never be upgraded.

>>384139116
>consoles are the future

>>384132741
>uses fan to blow into internal cooling fan thus meaning the laptop can never cool

You deserved it dingus.

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>>384131429
Hahaha, did you seriously just confuse a laptop GPU with its desktop equivalent? How retarded can sonygros get?
They spend all day doing this, wrestling with mental gymnastics and fuzzy logic to justify their bloodborne machine.

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Had an inspiron 7567 gaming for a month now and love it. Only downside is the tn screen. But you get used to it.

Defo wab.

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>>384131429
>2017
>hurr I'm going to pay more to carry around a fucking toaster
Retards, who still needs laptops. Just stream your desktop to your phone.

>>384135330
>Not chromebook and console

Enjoy your endless money sink.

>>384131970
For all the shit they get for owning ayylienware, Dell does make some quality business labtobs.

The desktop for the average consumer is dead, that's true. It has been for a long time.

PC Gaming, and the PC hobby in general is now like arcade gaming. It still exists, and has a vibrant community, but it is far from mainstream.

I have 40TB's of storage in my desktop. I'd like to see a laptop offer that. I'd like to see the laptop offer the precision of a mechanical keyboard and a high dpi mouse.

>>384139507
Consoles are actually really fucking expensive once you factor the online tip in over 5 years and the need to own a normal PC anyway.

>>384139475
This is easily the most poor fag retard setup of all time
>streaming games
>ever in this lifetime
No

>>384139296
Ummmm sweetie, they are actually VERY close in the gtx 1000 gen. They are the same gpu slightly different clock speeds.

>>384139737
>dude gaming computers are expensive!
>*owns a MacBook *

>>384139609
The Alienware Alpha is actually pretty cool. The old model anyway, with the GTX 860m. Playing Crysis 3 from the living room (albeit on medium) was awesome. Emulating every fucking thing also makes it a premier under the TV box.

>>384139507
>psvr
>subscription required for online gameplay
>ps4 pro and xbox one x
>4k tv

What did he mean by this?

I have a Windows 10 desktop I built myself, a Surface pro 4 for on the go, and a Switch for those Nintendo exclusives. Just got a Galaxy S8+ so if I ever want to play mobile and VR, I'm covered. With this setup I'm only missing out on Sony's exclusives which I don't care for.

>>384133560
Buy all the parts individually and put it together yourself.

I gave myself a budget of around $1,000 for buying parts and building one from scratch during a New Egg black friday sale, building a PC that would have cost hundreds of dollars more prebuilt.

>>384139825
No, you fucking moron, you stream games you own, from your gaming pc, in 1080.
It's the same game, just on your phone.
Bluetooth controller and you're good to play games.
Bluetooth keyboard+mouse and you're good to do litterally everything else.

>>384131429
Good luck playing PC games on that shitty laptop

>not counting PSN fees

TOP KEK

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>>384139831
>Ummmm sweetie, they are actually VERY close in the gtx 1000 gen.
I'm sure you have benchmarks to back this nonsense up. Consolefriends really are all children, aren't they?

>>384139734
>but it is far from mainstream.
It's been getting more popular/mainstream every year

>4/5 most viewed on twitch are PC exclusives
>same thing on youtube where it used to be stuff like cod
>consoles now doing upgrades to stop people switching

>>384139737
Decent chromebook is $250.

A console is $399 then in 5 years you get a better version or the next gen for another $399.

Meanwhile the pc gamer has spent that entire budget just upgrading his computer but eventually that mobo is going to go and then he's dropping more.

Not to mention the hassle of troubleshooting problems on pc is exhausting because there's infinite combinations of hardware that might be the issue and it's very possible that for certain games your issue never gets fixed.

I'll stick with my pleb console/chromebook setup and enjoy it immensely despite how you think it's "bad".

>>384131429
>1 TB HDD
literally unusable in the current year. you need a SSD, but then you're stuck with like 250 GB. that's why laptops suck

>>384140220
Nah I'm a pcbro they literally are very similar for the lower end gpus in the 1000 series (notice the lack of m at the end)

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Notebook.178614.0.html

https://www.notebookcheck.com/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Desktop.181031.0.html

>>384140456
Those aren't benchmarks, sweet cheeks.

>>384131970
I had a Gigabyte laptop and didn't like it either. Turns out they use some shitty batteries. Mine expanded so bad that it cracked open the case. Of course, this was after the warranty ran out
I mostly used it for video editing and graphic design, not serious gaming

>>384140293
Lets be fucking realistic

>ps4 = $200
>5 years online = $200 (VERY optimistic)
>shitty PC for normal use = $250

PC which can beat the normal ps4 is about $400, for the pro about $600. The consoles really aren't cheap at all

>>384140520
I don't give a shit about anything other than how it performs in games.

If you haven't been keeping up honeydrumpf, the newer gpus are genuinely exactly the same apart from clock speeds, this was not the case with the 900 series it is recent.

>>384131429
>Loud as fuck
>Can't upgrade it
Nah it's still not as good. Laptops are okay nowadays compared to the past but they're still not ideal, you have to use their shitty keyboards and their small monitors to play on too.

>>384133560
>>384138738
Alternatively, pick parts, and let the shop build it for you for like $30 if you can't handle such task

>>384133818
Actually, >>384133974
is the main drawback.

Gaming laptops tend not to live long because heat is a big issue. It's also why the second hand market deeply discounts them. I've seen $2k gaming laptops go for a quarter that in 12 months because it wouldn't sell otherwise.

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my laptop is constant 70-80 degrees just from playing Hollow Knight

I don't know about you faggots, but I have a laptop because I like to lay down on my bed and play games, and I'm not some console plebeian or worse-someone with a huge tv as their "monitor". I set my laptop on my chest and use a controller for games that are better suited for that, and it's way more comfy than sitting at a fucking desk all day.

>>384133560
Having others build your machine for you is a luxury option. As a fellow poorfag, I have to tell you to save money by taking the time to build it yourself. You will get a better rig for your money.

Naturally it incurs some risk, but double-triple your research. (If you're like me, you have plenty of free time anyway.)

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>not getting comfy in bed with a piping hot gaming laptop

>>384131429
>A machine made of interchangeable parts that can be modified and re-placed at any time is obsolete.

Man, what did OP mean by this?

>>384131429
gaming laptop masterrace

I fell for the gaming laptop meme back in 08 and I went with an ASUS laptop. It wasn't even one of their meme-tier gayming laptops, it was just a beefy normalfag laptop with a decent GPU and RAM and it handled Crysis without breaking a sweat. If you're gonna fall for the laptop meme, buy ASUS. You'll get the most bang for your buck IMHO.

Or, y'know, you could just not be an idiot like I was and build a desktop for the same price.

>>384141638
>I set my laptop on my chest and use a controller for games that are better suited for that, and it's way more comfy than sitting at a fucking desk all day.

t. Rebel man with no posture or decent behavioral skills

i use both in tandem. By desktop front board went out so I can't use SD card/USB slot/Disc drive functions, So I use my Laptop as a proxy machine to send files i need over skype to myself.

>>384142058
>implying sitting in a cramped desk is better for posture than lying flat
>implying "behavioral skills" come into play when alone at home playing games

>>384141782
He probably only has a game console, or has never opened a desktop, or both.

>>384142252
>Implying sitting at a cramped desk
Your fault if its cramped. Most desks are actual work stations, not a table and a computer. YOu just make excuses because you are lazy and an underachiever.
>When home alone
I'm reffering to your attitude. YOu come off as one of those FUCK THE WORLD I DO WHAT I WANT rebels christian nuns so despise.

>>384140225
>can't be real
>check it
>Heathstone

Did people actually pick up Blizzards pay2win trading card simulator?

Also, this doesn't mean they are playing on traditional desktops. Most Laptops can handle intense modern games on medium easily, and Counter Strike GOY (which has console ports but they are so shitty I'll accept it in this case) isn't intense and demanding.

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>Not having a desktop, laptop AND consoles

No need to fight guys, get the best of all worlds.

>>384131429
>laptop
>600 britbong
>notebook and a pen
>3 britbongs

WHOA
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?

>>384140134
Streaming games locally is still streaming games

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>>384131429
I still much prefer to play on my desktop, mainly because it makes a lot less noise than when I play on my laptop so I know my desktop is getting the proper amount of cooling. I pretty much only use my laptop for college.

>>384140293
>Build PC for ~$1000
>4-5 years later upgrade GPU for ~$300
>Don't touch any other components since CPU, RAM, MoBo etc. are still rock solid and not obsolete and would be unnecessary
>Have literally no technical or troubleshooting issues because not a retard
>Upgrade GPU again in another 4-5 years
>MAYBE consider CPU/MoBo + RAM at this point depending what the current lanscape looks like. Probably not necessary again since consoles hold back progress.

Why do people who don't own a PC make shit up as if It's fraught with technical issues and an expensive endeavour. It's not.

>>384131429
>mate whose really into PC gaming bought an Alienware laptop and said it works just as well

Guess the memes were wrong

>>384142624
I'm already fighting the good fight m8, too many rat standard peasants that are just either or lmao!

>>384131429
maybe the reason everyone is in so much debt is they absolutely must have a 500 quid laptop just to take notes in class

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>not carrying your PC around

pleb

>>384140671
>in my fantasy land I'm using a $400 pc with zero upgrades for 5 years
>hahaha rekt kiddo

Cute

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>Have powerful desktop I sunk a lot of money into
>Always on skype groups with friends to co-ordinate what we're going to do/when we hang out
>Don't want to play any games on PC because It feels rude when talking
>Even though I have pure silence and high power through deafening
>Never finish any steam games because of it

Am I the only one? I'm seriously considering just buying a steam machine or a mini PC just for gaming on a seperate unit at this point

>>384142497
Even if you exclude the f2p/easy to run pubg is still top which requires a very high end PC as far as I know.

>>384143030
sound like you need to work though what ever mental disorder is plaguing you instead of dropping even more money on another machine

>>384143134
>16
Being polite is a mental disorder now

Look man, I was raised right by nuns, don't blame me that I don't have the rough and tumble tough guy attitude to do what I want when other people are around.

>>384143020
You could do that if you're fine playing at the console settings. Very few do since the experience is so shit. I use a 5 year old $800 PC and plan to keep it for at least 2 more years

>>384131429
>not getting a used 3ds for £80 then hacking a word processing on it for uni and infinite free games

FUCKING PLEBS

Gaming laptops make my hands sweat.

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>>384143264

>>384143264
>Bringing a fucking gameboy to uni
Social suicide.

Who fucking pays more than £300 for a laptop? I bought an X230 for £150, and whilst I already had an 8GB stick and a 1TB HDD available it wouldn't have cost any more than £50 to buy those and upgrade it. You're literally retarded if you spend £600 or even £450 on a laptop.

>>384143506
>Social suicide
Sure, in like 1995 maybe. Shows you've neevr even been past college.

>>384131429
>i5, 8gb, 1080p, 1tb hdd
>probably just used exclusively to type notes

literally just as bad as people buying 900 dollar facebook machines

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>>384143506
>he didn't have smash tourneys at uni
>he didn't wreck plebs in pokemon battles at uni
>he actually got a useful degree at uni

check out this loser

>>384131429
>gaming
>laptop

Laptops are fucking expensive for no reason. theres no reasonw e shouldn't have ~$100 laptops in this day and age.

>Dad calls
>Turns out his Vista finally crapped out on him, and he needs a new laptop, and wants my help choosing one
>All the ones he wants for just basic functions like faxing and Microsoft office are still $400+
>Not even i3s and they're STILL $300-$400

>>384143030
>having friends

kek

>>384143020
I've had my machine for about 6 years now and it cost ~$400. It's really starting to show its age now, but I can still play games on low just fine

>>384140293
I've never had a pc part fail on me. These fuckers won't die. The risk of investment is worth it.

>>384140293
>A console is $399 then in 5 years you get a better version or the next gen for another $399.

When will /v/ learn that people don't buy consoles for hardware. They buy them for games. Who cares if the new console comes out in 3 years? If a specific game is native and exclusive to that console and that console only, and doesn't get a port, its still worth keeping the older console.

Honestly. How many people on this flipping board kept a PS3 "The No games console" for literally Just Demon souls?

>>384144064
The laptop market is jewed to all fuck. There's been a trend of charging more money for weaker hardware as time goes on and since the only people buying them these days are dumb college students and businessmen they can get away with charging out of the ass for what should be standard budget hardware.

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>>384144417
>They buy them for games
How is it possible to believe this?

Why compromise?

I own a full gaming spec PC for ~£1k (monitor, speakers, headset, gaming mice/keyboard all included) for "proper" gaming (FPS/MMO/RTS), in my study where the 2nd screen is a TV for movies.

In my living room I have my TV hooked up to the PS4 for fifa/racing/casual games with mates, and also for playing movies for guests.

I work in sales so am travelling most weeknights, so I have a "gaming" ultrabook (i7/1050) which I take with me which is good enough for movies, streaming CSGO, comfy wanking to porn while in bed.

All in that is about £2k (maybe £2.5k depending on the TV quality in the study & living room).

Even your most basic bitch minimum wage employee can afford that...

>>384144192
>tfw my 9800 GT died after a few years
Great card still

>>384142912
Alienware works fine, the problem has never been that they don't work. The problem is that the brand name more than doubles the cost of the end product, the laptops they sell for $2000 are worth under $1000 if you build them yourself.

>>384144758
I try not to spend much since I'm a student and want a large deposit on a house by the time I graduate instead of being a rent cuck

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>>384144175
> play games on low just fine

Never use words 'low' and 'fine' in the same sentence.

>not being able to carry your laptop out of your burning house as you escape
>not being able to physically hide all evidence of your computer by lifting it and it's power cord and sitting them under the narrow floorboards before the FBI busts down your door.

desktop fags BTFO

>>384144994
>A large deposit

You realize thats about 25Grand minumum right? A student will enevr make that.

>>384131557
Can you get a decent chrome book for $100 or less?


Also was at Best buy yesterday. Saw this Omen PC for like $1800 with a i7 16gbs of ram and with a fucking 1060 with 3gbs of ram.

>>384142992
this

laptop+switch is the futue

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>>384145052
My house doesn't burn, because i have efficient cooling in my desktop.

>>384145472
>Next door neighbor sets a fire because hes retarded
>Fire spreads to your roof

OOPS!

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>>384145214
I have 35k already, you can get a very surprising amount.

10k per year student loan
6k med trials
4k wagecucking

Living expenses only come to about 6k tops

(also don't have to pay council tax or tax on earnings, probably already get the average adult wage considering this lol)

>>384133560
I saved like $450 building one myself.
High end and everything
Shit was shit $2600 total tho

>>384145013
I'm getting over 60 FPS on most games at a resolution that doesn't look like ass. It still gets better framerates than consoles. It handles games on low just fine.

>>384145472
>not setting your house on fire to destroy the evidence of your e-crimes

>>384145052
>not sleeping in the burning house
>not being in cahoots with FBI
The fuck is wrong with you?

>>384145590
>Actually using your student loans

Enjoy debt in the future.

>>384144994

When you get a bit older you'll realise spending a bit for your happiness is just as important as saving for the future.

If you're happy, you will excel in work and therefore earn more. I moved from my previous job which paid £25k/y to my current which pays £42k + bonuses, which made saving for a house piss easy. After 2 years in this job I put down a mortgage last year and live in my own place now.

I'm not saying spending on videogames got me my job, but I am saying being unhappy would have prevented me getting it.

£2k could be earned in your summer break easily... best student jobs are just working with kids in summer camps / experience weeks etc.

>>384141685
What risks exactly?

>>384145579
My walls are made of concrete, not carton. If it starts burning, i will be able to get my desktop, my fries, and your mother out of it before it burns down.

>>384145613
As a computer literate user, i don't get caught by the FBI, unlike laptop niggers.

>>384145725
Do you even know how it works?

If you earn 25k you only have to pay back 500 pounds a year.

If you earn less than 18k you pay back nothing. It is not like a normal loan and I would take out far more if I could.

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>>384145607
> low
> doesn't look like ass

>>384145768
Yeah I'd just like a house at 21, some people don't care but I'd love to actually own somewhere.

I don't really sacrifice much by owning a low tier PC either.

Honestly Laptops ain't that bad, most modern games are pretty shit so you don't really need a super power house, playing on low or mid is a little shitty but the portability and compact space makes up for it IMO.

can someone spoon feed me. I have £800 for a pc. Someone build that shit for me and ill buy it tonight.

>>384147009
Laptops are utter garbage in every single thing except for size and portability. That's like a dozen parameters, all inferior to PC. And with modern games being shitty, you are making your experience even more shitty, becoming the ultimate turd gobbling garbage fucker.

>>384146167

It does start to hurt a bit more when you earn loads, but yes, UK student loans are 100% worth it.

>>384146572

Guess you're the same guy; house at 21 is OK but remember until you're 30 you'll likely be moving around to get the best job etc. For example, I've worked in Leicester, Macclesfield, London (Teddington), and finally Hull where I'm now settled at 30.

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>>384131429
Pretty sure I heard the "desktops are dying" meme at least a decade ago

>>384146167
Can confirm, former student loan servicer here.

I plan to have at least ~$150k in student loans by the time I graduate. I'm never gonna pay it off.

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>>384131429
- cheapest desktop that runs all modern games at mid settings for PC exclusives only - 160 euro
- mouse and keyboard - 20 euro
- monitor - 5 euro
- chinese graphic tablet - 40 euro
- second-hand thinkpad for everyday use - 50 euro
- second-hand 3DS - 120 euro
- PS4 - 220 euro
total: around 615 euro

Waiting for Switch to get cheaper.

>>384131429
desktop pc + chromebook with linux

>>384131429
>lads at work ask to play some cheely cod or battlefield
>whats your ps4 name?
>i-i-i game on pc

>>384147537
Eventually they will die and everyone will be using fanless laptops to play games on attached to external screens.

This will be in 30 years + though

>>384147651
>- cheapest desktop that runs all modern games at mid settings for PC exclusives only - 160 euro
>160 euro
Fuck off minecraft isn't even a modern game

>>384147935

>30 years
>not brain-implant VR

>>384147504
Not really, a good $600 laptop could play any game on the market.

>>384146319
>resolution
You're dense. Go play your $300 slideshow machine.

>>384147589
You are taking pride in being retarded or something? Even if we imply that you will be earning 25k a year your entire life, and keep paying 500 pounds for, let's say 40 years, it means that you paid at least 20000 bong dollars for your shitty education.

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>>384147651
>cheapest desktop that runs all modern games at mid settings for PC exclusives only - 160 euro
Honestly you're talking 1,000 euro, I doubt 160 euros would even run league well

>>384147651
>cheapest desktop that runs all modern games at mid settings for PC exclusives only - 160 euro
Anon what

>>384148061
A $5 chink phone can be used to call someone. Doesn't make it any better in comparison to $500 smartphone.

>>384142624
Get that monitors out of my face, plebfag. I use a Sony Bravia and a 60" 4K UHD Samsung for my consoles and PC

>>384148316
If you want a phone just for phonecalls, yes it does.

>>384148141
Someone who thinks that graphics equals framerate and resolution is dense. Normal people know that it all comes down to texture quality and other graphic settings. Playing on low is simply disgusting. Games look like shit even on ultra these days, thanks to console plebs. Playing on anything but high settings already can make your eyes bleed. Anything lower than medium is painful, miserable existence.

>>384148151

If you earn 25k your entire life (this is the average wage in the UK), you pay back 15k (they get written off in 30 years).

Literally free money and most importantly 15 k at 21 is MUCH better than 15k at 40.

>>384148404
Well, if you want a Facebook machine, then go ahead. Laptops can't be used for anything other than that on a serious level because everything is inferior. Screen size, sound quality, keyboard, CPU and GPU power, even internal wi-fi is usually total shit compared to a cheap USB dongle that PC users buy.

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>>384147504
>Laptops are utter garbage in every single thing except for size and portability.
Sorry but for vidya that's objectively wrong, like it or not. There is zero vidya designed for >4 cores, and few vidya that even take advantage of it. Due to Intel's focus on power efficiency over absolute performance for a while, the quadcores you can get in a notebook are equal to any desktop CPU except at the extreme end with overclocking, but that doesn't matter much either for vidya because vidya simply isn't CPU-limited overall. Same thing with memory, it's no problem to get a notebook with 16-64GB of RAM, even 16GB is more then enough. Notebooks have immensely fast PCIe SSD storage as well that's now at 2TB+. So in zero of these key areas are they an issue.

The only one that's harder is GPU. GPUs scale well and really can suck up 150-250W no problem for directly better performance. It is in fact possible to get "notebooks" with 100W-200W worth of GPU but they're big and heavy, in general this is a reasonable weak point (although not crippling, the mobile GPU chips these days are in no way bad, just less then desktop).

However, Thunderbolt 3 is and will continue to change that too. As TB3 becomes cheap and standard (now that Intel is finally opening it up and integrating it with their chips) it'll be possible to just plug in a full power full size standard desktop GPU. At that point a solid notebook will have no problem matching all by the most extreme desktops (which given how vidya is designed in general is good enough).

>That's like a dozen parameters, all inferior to PC.
Oh, what dozen? The core is CPU, GPU, memory, and storage. In only one of those are notebooks meaningfully inferior when it comes to vidya right now. MAYBE in a few years if AMD kicks off CPU progress again we MIGHT see vidya that can actually really use a lot of cores. But if that happens, given the thermal budgets right now and TB3, I fully expect to see 6-8 core CPUs in notebooks too.

>>384148650
>30 years

Anon you realize one health emergency and your fucked.

>>384148842
There is nothing stopping you plugging a laptop into a KB+M and monitor. That's what I do

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>>384148650
> Literally free money

How is it free money when it goes to Shlomo who owns the university?

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>>384148987
>one health emergency
What did the burger mean by this?

If you mean it puts you out of work this would be better, since you'd be earning nothing and hence wouldn't have to pay it back.

>>384131429
The problem with a gaming laptop is that they are not adequately protected from heat. You can run a desktop for 10 years and have no problem. The mobo or GPU will die on that laptop from running at full power within a few years.

>>384149041
Yeah, but then the portability is gone. Might as well plug a monitor and an amp to use with good headphones.

>hp

>>384149073

>40k gov money at 22 - 15k paid back over 30 years is not free money

It really is in the UK.

>>384149225
I did it because of price (it was cheaper to buy a gaming laptop than a shit desktop + laptop), it wasn't anything as good as the deal in the OP picture though.

If you don't need to take the laptop around often it's not much of a problem unplugging everything (I have power, 3 usb, ethernet, monitor and headphones all plugged in)

>>384147981
>>384148184
>>384148241
I hunted for good deals on separated parts. Only second-hand component I bought was Radeon r7 250x for like 50 euro.

>would even run league well
Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and LOL works well if you don't care about graphic settings. Never bothered to check any online FPS, because it's not my thing.

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>>384148842
>Laptops can't be used for anything other than that on a serious level because everything is inferior.
Objectively wrong. Notebooks are by far the system of choice for professionals at all levels, including software developers. Which you'd know if you weren't a highschooler who's never done any real work.

>Screen size
All serious notebooks support external screens. And their size is plenty enough to get real work done on the go. I remember working at 320x240 in the late 80s, we got stuff done then too.
>sound quality
lol? They've got USB.

>keyboard
Their keyboards are quite solid in general, and at a station you can use any KB+M you want.

>CPU
Truly CPU heavy stuff in serious environments usually gets spun off to local clusters or the cloud. Otherwise a quadcore i7 is a quadcore i7.

>and GPU power
Only one that is generally correct. But that's what GPU boxes are coming out for.

>even internal wi-fi is usually total shit compared to a cheap USB dongle that PC users buy.
I sure hope you're just pretending to be retarded. Also
>desktop PC users not using their internal wifi 99.999999% of the time
>year of our lord two thousand seventeen
:^)

>>384149203
To be fair a 1050 and mobile i5 will have relatively low tdp.

>>384149225
>amp
>good sound
oh boy it's an audiopedophile

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used laptops are the only thing you should be considering

>>384139292
>he puts a fan right on the CPU
jesus you're an idiot

>>384149203
>You can run a desktop for 10 years and have no problem
I thought you were complaining about performance? Because even now a ten year old desktop would be utterly obsolete shit that'd get curbstomped by any semi-decent notebook made in the last year or two. There are plenty of decade+ old notebooks too of course, but nobody uses them either if they care about performance. That kind of lifespan is just you jacking off to meaningless number shit.

There is nothing inherent in physics stopping anyone from making a computer that'll kick along for decades, and in fact that's what they actually do for applications like satellites or military warships or mainframes. But for the vast majority it's far more sensible to make something way cheaper that'll last less and just replace it every 5-8 years.

>>384148914
Laptop in comparison to PC:

1. Tiny screen size
2. No mouse, requiring you to plug it in and carry it around
3. Shitty keyboard, inferior to standalone products
4. Trashy Wifi in most models, inferior to external dongles
5. Inferior CPU, nuff said
6. Atrocious cooling, which makes it hot and loud as hell
7. Filthy sound quality, only one tier higher than mobile phones
8. Lack of upgrade options, forcing you to buy a new model
9. No support for multi monitor setups
10. Small internal storage, usually just one slot for HDD\SSD
11. Low quality potato webcam
12. Ridiculously overpriced, because it's a prebuilt

>>384145013
>muh graphics

if you play environment or story driven games then graphics are important. If you play game play oriented games, then graphics don't matter as much.

Example: Heavy rain and last of us would be shit with bad graphics.
Quake 3 and starcraft brood war wouldn't benefit at all from graphical upgrades because people dont play those games for the story or immersion.

>>384145964
Wrong parts. Accidentally breaking something during installation. Static discharge.

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>>384149876
>my X200 fells out of the window from 3rd floor
>panic and run downstairs
>laptop is only slightly scratched from outside and works perfectly

this shit is immortal

>Old Thinkpad x201 with SSD running a blazing fast arch for uni
>Desktop for actual gaming

Why be retarded and do anything else?

Also, if you need a laptop for work and uni and you bring a gumung laptap with fans as loud as its design you have just given up on life.

>>384150250
Oh, also don't forget the

13. EXTERNAL power supplies which weight a lot, look like shit, and have to be carried around
14. Small battery size, which gets only worse the better your hardware is, forcing you to stay plugged most of the time. And if you stay plugged, your battery will eventually die in a few years, losing percent of it's maximum charge every month

>>384149996
tons of laptops are going to get fucked up by the 2 to 3 year mark. its not meaning less numbers. and if it isn't a serious hardware component its your chassis or back-light or other part while not breaking functionality makes its extremely unejoyable to use.

>>384149876
Yo old thinkpads are the fucking shit.

Nothing better than that aesthetic.

>>384149876
Can't wait to type on that keyboard full of semen stains from the previous owner.

>>384150250
Be honest anons, do you ever truly use your laptop portably? Mine was almost always plugged in, had hooked up to it a second monitor, a mouse, a mechanical keyboard, a usb hub, an external hard drive, and an cat 5 cable for internet as I preferred it over wifi. Was an older laptop that still had a CD drive, otherwise that would have been an external accessory too. I only ever took it out of the house because I needed it for college. Now I have a desktop for all of that since finishing college.

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>>384150384
> playing Quake and Starcraft on a laptop

It's like you are asking to be owned

>>384139292
So I'm not supposed to put a fan on my computer fan?

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>>384150250
>1. Tiny screen size
A PC has no screen at all. Oh wait, you plug one or three in? Well you can do that with a notebook too so this is retarded.

>2. No mouse, requiring you to plug it in and carry it around
>3. Shitty keyboard, inferior to standalone products
All notebooks have mice and many of good keyboards. If you want your own that's fine and literally no different then a PC.

>4. Trashy Wifi in most models, inferior to external dongles
>most models
If you buy shit you deserve it.

>5. Inferior CPU, nuff said
Except not, outside of XTREEEEME CPUs that make little to no difference in vidya. That might change now that AMD is back in the game eventually, but it's ain't the case now.

>6. Atrocious cooling, which makes it hot and loud as hell
See #4, if you buy shit that's your own fault.

>7. Filthy sound quality, only one tier higher than mobile phones
#4. Also since they've got USB you can have perfect sound quality same as any PC.

>8. Lack of upgrade options, forcing you to buy a new model
Upgrading memory and CPU is basically pointless in PCs now too, max it out and by the time a worthwhile upgrade is available your chipset is obsolete anyway.

>9. No support for multi monitor setups
What the fuck? Am I being trolled?

>10. Small internal storage, usually just one slot for HDD\SSD
2TB+ of internal PCIe SSD storage is plenty. Anymore can (and should) be DAS/NAS/cloud.

>11. Low quality potato webcam
Yeah desktop PCs are known for their webcams.

>12. Ridiculously overpriced, because it's a prebuilt
This seems like a big deal when you're in highschool but nobody professional gives a single fuck about something so retarded.

>>384151025
Disregard reply at top of post, forgot to clear it.

>>384150653
I have the same, fell from desk and got broken HDD only, but I wont believe that falling from 3rd floor did nothing. Unless you live on/in water or youre living in some kind of house for <1m midgets.

>>384151112
mate. unless you are living out hotel rooms for your job, you should not be wasting any money towards a laptop. spend $300 and call it good.

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>>384140293
>had the same pc components for +5 years except my $195 GPU upgrade
>still play games better than current gen
>still plays games better than the next upgrade of consoles
>"console is $399 then in 5 years you get a better version or the next gen for another $399"

>>384151221
About 3 and half meters per floor. It probably helped that laptop landed on the ground, was closed and turned off.

>>384151112
> 2TB+ of internal PCIe SSD storage

Kek. Retarded animu posters are just ridiculous. It all comes down to money. Everything a PC does, will cost you tremendous amounts of dosh to achieve on a laptop. And using a thousand external accessories and dongles, adapters and other bullshit, entirely defeats the purpose of an all-in-one device, ruining the portability and small size factor.

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>>384139737
>the need to own a normal PC anyway

To play what? Western "games"? The only good games are Japanese, and all the Japanese games aren't on PC. They are, however, on consoles.

This game, a 2017 localization of a 2015 game, shits all over everything PC will get this entire generation. And PC's not gonna get it, at least, not until the beginning of the next decade.

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>>384151879
> The only good games are Japanese

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>you don't even need an optical drive anymore
It broke years ago, and never needed it for games since.

>>384149176
More like paying off a large medical bill you fucking idiot.

>>384151995
haha lol weeb haha weaboo haha japan is funny wacky lol

>>384150496
>Wrong parts

Just use pcpartpicker


>Accidentally breaking something during installation

Do you have gigantism?


>Static discharge

Literal meme

>>384152020
> for games

True, but i still used my good old DVD drive like 3 times in the last 6 years. It's crazy that software still comes on discs these days, when it's bundled with hardware.

>>384152029
>burger intellectuals

>have to work
>pay back 15k of your 40k loan

>don't have to work due to injury
>payback nothing while injured

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>>384149339
Do they give it to you in cash, to spend on what you please, or simply tell Shlomo that you can attend his classes from now on?

I bought a gaming laptop for 750 euroes last year. The Scandinavian taxes are really high so that's that.
It's comfy because our house is small and I sit around sometimes on the table, sometimes on the couch and sometimes on my bed with it.
So far I've played ds1, ds2, dota 2 and bioshock on it.
It's not bad.

>>384131429
it's all pointless they stopped making games in 2015

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>>384152420
They do actually give it to you in cash in the uk and you can do ANYTHINg you want with it, maximum you get is 8500 from gov + 1000 to 4000 yearly non repayable from uni.

This does heavily depend how much your family earns.

I have zero idea why they give you so much.

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>>384151675
>using a thousand external accessories and dongles, adapters and other bullshit
just use docking station

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>>384131429
>He doesn't use a thinkpad

>>384131429
there's a catch. You have to buy games for the console. Games for the laptop are FREE if you torrent.
LITERALLY FREE GAMES.

>>384152219
What you wrote does not obviate the fact that they are risks. Very small risks, but risks nonetheless.

Also, meme does not mean "things I disagree with".

>>384152814
Where can I get one?
They don't sell these at stores. And they dont have good graphic cards.

>>384150384
What a coincidence, the last of us DOES have shit graphics

>>384152814
i miss mine

>>384151675
>Kek. Retarded animu posters are just ridiculous.
Goalpost shifting nu/v/ "technologist" summer children are pathetic.

>It all comes down to money.
Not what you were claiming before, you didn't claim at notebook costs more to get the same performance as a PC, just that it was worse. Nobody disputes that portability and compact size in general usually carries a premium that may or may not be worth it.

>Everything a PC does, will cost you tremendous amounts of dosh to achieve on a laptop.
>tremendous
All computers are cheap if you're professional or even just into them (which you have to be for this conversation to make any sense, a normie casual can get by with a toaster). And you chose a bad example to whine about since a high performance PCIe SSD isn't any cheap in a PC then it is in a notebook. And if you don't care about high performance then you just pissed all over your own argument.

>And using a thousand external accessories and dongles, adapters and other bullshit
lol that backpeddling and hyperbole. Back IRL nobody has any trouble plugging a couple of cables into the side when they are parking at their desktop for a while.

>entirely defeats the purpose of an all-in-one device, ruining the portability and small size factor.
Yeah spending 30 seconds on a couple of cables just isn't a problem for most of us anon. I know this might be hard for you to comprehend but not everyone in the planet matches your 400 lbs+sausage fingers.

>>384151879
jap games are shit

>>384131429
You can make your gaming computer pay for itself within a year very easily if you mine with it

Is that HP Laptop on the left actually good or is this a cruel joke image?

I can't remember when I bought my current laptop and it dies if I don't have a desk fan blowing on it all the time, so I want a new one.

>>384133560
There's some great deals on prebuilts every now and then. I got my computer with a 6600K, 16 GB of RAM, a small SSD + 1 TB HD, and two RX 480 4 GBs for $850 like 6 months ago.

>>384134030
still stronger than your currency, porky

Guys. We know desktops are better for the cost. Everyone knows this.
However the one thing laptops have is the portability. It's the same reason I prefer to browse this site on my phone in bed instead of sitting on my chair hurting my ass.
A desktop has to stay in the same spot on the table. You have to sit on a chair to use it. Meanwhile laptops can be used anywhere. Especially in bed. And that's comfy.

>>384152814
looks too chunky

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>>384145364
Most people: $400 console + $800 laptop
Smart people: $900 pc + $300 laptop
Functioning adults: $1600 pc + $500 laptop + $250 Xbox + $350 ps4 pro + $300 switch + $1k 4k tv

>>384138918
Well cucksoles are outdated equipment being sold at a loss so they can sell exclusive games and be an online marketplace

What's the best place to get a desktop built for me?

I don't care how easy it is to do it myself, I just want it to be done when I get it.

>>384133560

Desktop, I bought a fairly nice gaming laptop in 2013 and it can't run 8th gen games on even the lowest settings. It's only worth it if you travel a lot. (bought it since my transport plan for college involves waiting around on campus for hours)

>>384153552
>Functioning adults: $1600 pc + $500 laptop + $250 Xbox + $350 ps4 pro + $300 switch + $1k 4k tv
What about the house I was buying?
I'm not a millionaire you know. I can't buy a house if I have to spend that much.

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>>384131429
>laptops are better than desktops
kek
laptops are more compact and have to fit everything a desktop can if they want to try and run on equal footing
this creates problems like insufficient space to spread heat, causing problems such as >>384131970
not to mention you will pay out the ass for a laptop that has the same specs as a desktop simply because it has to fit everything into a smaller space and have a better cooling system/heatsink to run properly
its easily cheaper to buy a desktop for home gaming and another laptop if you need it for work than it is to buy a gaming laptop for both that will just melt its own parts, especially if you pull all nighters playing CPU/graphically intense games

this is coming from a once technologically inept moron that dished out $1k on a gaming laptop every year because they just broke all the time from regular use even while buying better stands and fans to try and cool them
I built a gaming pc for $900 five years ago and I haven't had a problem with it since, aside from having to lower the settings on newer games

>>384153235
Got an older one, it's great. Performs as expected, much quieter/cooler/better battery life when browsing web than expected.

Since the 1050 has a low tdp than the 965m in my laptop it should be even quieter/cooler.

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>>384131429
>mfw people spend fortunes on new laptops when they can just buy a used ~2013 Thinkpad and shove a SSD into it for half the price, same performance and superior servicability and build quality.

My Sony Vaio is still going strong from 2011. God bless you Kaz.

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>>384151027
How would playing quake or star craft on a laptop get me owned? with a low end i5 laptop processor I can get 120 frames in quake and 60 frames in star craft. Furthermore, I don't require a good keyboard to do well in games, I only need a good mouse.

>>384152974
solid 4.5/10 bait, almost took you seriously for a second

>>384154249
I'm going to trust you and buy one.

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>>384154136
>fleshlight

>>384154684
>that image
>good graphics
Solid 4.5/10 b8

>>384154730

I would, that one in the OP is a great deal for the price.

However unless you truly need a laptop a desktop is better, but for low end the differences are minimal.

>>384153552
>Functioning adults: $1600 pc + $500 laptop + $250 Xbox + $350 ps4 pro + $300 switch + $1k 4k tv

i forgot how to spoiler so im just testing

>>384154995

To spoiler, all you need to do is put some text and then at the end.

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>>384154823
The image was posting online with downscaled resolution, but the graphics, both referring to world detail and poly count and textures, are believable.

If you only need the laptop for basic uni reasons, you can get a chromebook for about $150 (~120 GBP) that will do anything you need unless you're a computer major (science majors often need specialized programs, but all our computers had those installed in the science computer labs).

Work may or may not be different depending on what you do, but if you need a personal computer for work, you should be making enough money to afford a decent desktop with a monitor much bigger than 15.6 inches, and/or work should be providing you a work laptop.

>>384153552
An Xbone would be kind of redundant in that list if you have win10

>>384155449
It's the only one that can play 4k blu rays

>>384133560
to build your own desktop you need to know the parts and how to put it together.

buying prebuilt wouldnt be so bad as long as you learn the parts and pick wisely or else youre just rolling the dice.

>>384154992
Being a failure at life, I don't have room for a desktop.

>>384155368
>>384154684
>that flat foliage
>those low poly trees
>those low poly cars
>that horrible texture filtering obliterating the ground texture work
>very clear linear map construction and lack of detail outside of playable area
Wew lad. Stalker cop looks better

>>384155634
I'm a collegecuck so have one to take around/take up less room.

>>384153750
Custom? A local computer shop, I guess.

>>384155449
I bought one before I bought my new computer and don't regret it much because it plays 4k blu rays and the Halo MCC

>>384154684
Because a tiny screen and a shitty keyboard are a recipe for disaster. Jeez, looking at what you consider beautiful, i wonder if it's some sort of console tier denial, or just a 3rd world poorfag who never saw anything better speaking.

>>384155538
>>384155853
Wouldn't a standalone blu ray player be cheaper? I was thinking of just getting a 4k blu ray drive for my PC if I ever wanted 4k bluray. At $100-150 price range, it's the cheapest option

>>384156469
From what I saw 4k blu ray drives were $150 at the cheapest and I got my xbone s for $185 on ebay. Far better value, comes with goat controller I can use wirelessly on pc as well, and functions as a halo machine

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I just bought a desktop ant a thinkpad t430s

>>384154136
Holy shit you must be even fatter than boogie

>Buying Lenovo in the year of our Lord two thousand and seventeen

it's bad enough that I have to use one at work

>>384131429
I had two windows laptops and they were the shittiest thing ever made, they got really hot even when playing games that aren't that demanding and the battery life went to shit after a year and a half. I am never buying windows laptops ever again. A desktop will always outlive a laptop no questions asked. Not only that but I cant use my vive on those laptops

>>384157831
Not bad desu. Not bad.

>>384131429
>GTX 1050
enjoy not getting playable framerates in modern games like Dishonored 2.

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>>384158512
> windows laptops

I wonder who can be behind this post

>>384131429
>Laptops with a mechanical hard drive aren't shit
>The only thing that makes a laptop good is having an "i5 and 8gb of ram"
>hp
>dedicated 1050 makes it a "hardcore gaming laptop", and that's despite the rest of the hardware being either garbage or unspecified

/g/ here. Laughing my fucking ass off. Some retard on /v/ once again making a fool of himself.

>>384140821
>I don't give a shit about anything other than how it performs in games
They perform like low range GPUs at much higher prices. You'd know if you checked those benchmarks.

The only benefit of a laptop is its portability. If you don't need that then you are actually retarded for buying a laptop over a desktop.

Desktops have infinitely more customization options as well as better hardware.

>>384155449
Windows 10 has fucking nothing to do with anything. Stop falling for this fucking meme. Just because Microsoft says "Xbox and Windows 10 exclusive" doesn't mean it's incapable of running on anything else. Windows 10 doesn't run on a fucking ARM CPU. It's not using a completely different kernel. What the fuck is going to stop you from clicking here download button know steam and hitting play on windows 7 or 8?

What's the best midrange card now?

I thought it would be the 580, but it seems a little more expensive now.

>>384158849
this, SSD is a requirement for a laptop to not be shit, preferably an NVMe SSD

>>384158970
8 out of 10 laptop owners stay plugged and never use that portability anyway. The only reason why they buy laptops on the first place, is because it's a prebuilt, and they are too retarded to assemble their own PC.

20 years ago a laptop was a sign of an elite member of tech society. Either an upper middle class IT guy, or a successful businessman.

These days owning a laptop is most likely a sign of mental retardation. Most consumers are tech illiterate blond bimbos and college kids making Powerpoint presentations in between Facebook and playing f2p garbage.

>>384159259
If buying used, then GTX 780 Ti is the best bang for your buck unless you can find. An ultra cheap 980 Ti. Regular 980 is both more expensive and equally or less powerful in games, and factually less powerful in raw power.

Take that with a grain of salt though, I don't know how Nvidia goyworks affects 700 series vs 900, and depending on what you play, the extra 1gb of ram might make a more expensive 980 worth it for you.

If buying new, probably 1060. Nvidia x60 pretty much always wins best midrange card every generation. 1060 isn't as good a deal as the 960 was in its day but whatever. Don't bother with AMD. You won't find any in stock at a price cheap enough to be competitive right now.

>>384159718
>These days owning a laptop is most likely a sign of mental retardation
how can you be so autistic? I'm not going to argue that you should ever buy a laptop for gaming but most people don't play PC games so a laptop is perfectly acceptable.

>>384131429
>Assuming you need a laptop for uni
What shithole are you going to where they aren't providing you 24/7 access to a computer. Or failing that, what the fuck are you studying you require more than a core2duo?
>Assuming you need a laptop for work
If BYOD is a requirement and not an option; you're either working for a company that has no money and won't pay you at the end of the month, or have walked into a fairly elaborate kidney-farming operation and are about to get stabbed.

>>384133497
I'm picking up laptop because smartphone is too limited and Despite my desktop are kind of strong, I can not carry out.

I will use it to play GBA games on it.
And maybe any PS game what does not use joysticks.
And obviously, for works.

>>384133560
Right now because of inflated gpu prices, its a better option to buy prebuilt.

Are today's gaming laptops any good at dealing with excess heat? I used to have one years ago, and it got uncomfortably hot on the hands. And the keyboard wasn't really ideal for games.

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>>384160029
>core2duo
I'm so fucking tired of this. I thought I wouldn't have to see people pushing this fucking garbage outside of /g/.

There are a massive fucking shitload of reasons to get a good laptop that isn't from fucking 2007. Fuck the shit off with this stupid motherfucking meme. NOBODY WANTS TO PURPOSELY BUY A FUCKING ANCIENT LAPTOP BUT A FEW AUTISTS ON /g/. People want oden features that improve performance and battery life. People want SSDs. People want faster and newer generation memory. People want USB 3.0 People want the decade of battery saving technology that Intel has developed since then. People want actually good displays with good resolutions instead of 1280x720. Please for the love of God take your fucking C2D bullshit back to a containment thread on /g/. The rest of us are so fucking tired of you guys living and breathing the same air.

>>384159971
Shitting on incompetent cunts ain't autistic, it's quite the opposite. Acceptable is the best term i can agree on, tho history wise, laptops were still rather expensive 10 years ago, so most people who bought them overpaid so much, it wasn't acceptable. And ever since Ipad was presented and mobile device sales skyrocketed, people who only want to watch a movie and browse internet can buy a tablet or even use their smartphone since everybody have one. In case they need a keyboard and mouse to type in MS Word or something, Chromebooks and other cheap shit is an option. Yet the majority of sales comes from around 600 bucks laptops with shitty GPU's which people buy, yeah, to play games. It's truly ridiculous but it's the world we live in.

I bet 1\3 of /v/ who consider themselves to be PC masterrace are laptop plebs.

buy a thinkpad

>>384160821
Suck my massive 12 inch dick

>>384160940
come to Phoenix

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>>384131429
>GTX 1050

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>>384131429
>GTX 1050
Anything below xx80 in mobile graphics is complete shit. Even even mobile 1080 is bad compared to lower level desktop graphics card

>>384160029
>require more than a core2duo
Most modern browsers don't even perform that well with that shit nowadays. Do much media and JavaScript support has fucked it sideways.

>>384157831
very clean

>>384158527
>>384162284
thank you :3

(assuming you need a normal laptop)

why would i need a laptop you faggot
at home i use my desktop
every other time i use my phone

>>384159250
Calm down, I got into Steam only recently and already had Windows 10 by then.

>>384131429
You can go and get:
>~$150 i5 2400 OEM Office Prebuilt PC
>~$150 GTX 1050 Ti
and that'll play your shit at 1080p just fine

>>384135112
It's shameful that they can't fix such a critical bug in fucking 2 years, when it should literally be a first priority after stuff like BSOD causing bugs.

>>384159718

I do stay plugged because my battery died like a year ago, but I haul my PC between two cities twice a week and having a laptop allows me to keep all my baggage in one hand.

I have a gaymen PC + macbook which I previously used for work. I don't have much use for it now, so thinking about selling. Is that laptop in OPs pic actually decent? My main concern is battery life. Aren't the 10 series GPUs supposed to be desktop equivalents, so would it be able to play Civ, maybe Siege on low-medium settings?

>>384163202
>Aren't the 10 series GPUs supposed to be desktop equivalents
i think so, i doubt it's gonna be anywhere as bad as the gimped 9 series though

Every gaming-capable laptop I've tried heats up like an oven after a while. Even if it doesn't impact its longevity or performance, tapping my fingers on a hotplate makes me anxious.

>>384131429
>Pc build for 5 years minimum
>all the games you want
>A little big sometimes
>Frankenstein monster of building.
>Used by professionals.

>Laptop for 2 years
>Literally a overrated compacted toaster
>It will die before 5 years of using it

>Gaming console 1 year -2 years
>Shit games for the highest price, berny Sanders voters loves it.
>Ugly painful joystick
>Shit coop
>Shit multiplayer
>Shit design
>Shit performance
>Hey look, a new xconsole it's out with similar quality and totally different games, let's buy it all.

>>384163202
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Notebook.178614.0.html
>Siege on low-medium settings
Ultra 1080p 60fps sweetiepie