What does Dark Souls do right? I usually find combat in other

>>384123147
gameplay punish you if you play wrong

>>384123147
le prepare to die xD

>>384123147
It's casual, but still a bit more rewarding

>>384123690
Go back

>>384123147
It doesn't really hold your hand.

>>384123147
bot your character and your enemies react to being hit

it was so fucking annoying in skyrim to slam a fucker in the head with a mace and literally nothing happens, its as if i didnt even hit him

>>384123848
Only the first one

>>384124154
Dark Souls 1 is the easiest in the series

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>>384123147
you have autism and shit taste
:^)

>>384123201
and incentivizes strategising over reacting.

>>384123147
world building - it actually feels like you are in a fantasy land on a deadly dangerous journey

>>384123147
It has commitment, so you aren't just mindlessly mashing buttons until it's time to hit the i-frames button, you actually have to think. Or at least, pay attention.

>>384124217
Yeah but it's open. 2 and 3 are very linear and full of handholding. But bosses are better in 3

>>384124348
>2
>linear

Variety and multiplayer.

Even in singleplayer you can create different builds which plays differently (unless it's magic or miracles or pyromancy - each school plays the same, though you can combine them). After beating the game a couple of times, it's interesting to make challenge runs, like, choose a weapon and use only it. My first challenge run was bow-only, and it was really great. Finding how to get souls without killing enemies when you have no arrows was tricky, but soon enough I got a large amount of arrows to clear the game. Though I dropped at The Four Kings, fuck them. Good times!

>>384124436
2 is less linear than 3 but way more linear than 1. The first half of 1 has a lot of overlapping areas backtracking through places you've already been and during your first playthrough it's actually fairly easy to get lost. 2 however always felt like you were just going in a straight line until you reach a brick wall then you go back and do the other paths until the last 1/8th of the game. Maybe it was the inclusion of immediate bonfire transportation but it lost a lot of the exploration feel of the first one.

>>384123147
Some people just love tank controls that much.

>Tfw the dark souls franchise gets faster and faster with each entry
>tfw you just want to experience the slow bulky combat of ds1 again

>>384124774
>>384124436
Linearity and interconnectiveness are not the same thing, though they're similiar. There are a lot more ways in Dark Souls 2 to progress than in Dark Souls 1, because DS2 is more opened at the start. DS1 has great interconnectiveness for like 1/4 of the game and it feels great, but after getting Lordvessel it's only four different ways and you get an ending.

Both games are great by the way. DS3 is great too

>>384124864
DS2 combat is less slower and bulky than in DS1 though. Go play it. Or Lords Of The Fallen, it's even more slower and it's kinda boring to be honest

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>>384124305
>It has commitment, so you aren't just mindlessly mashing buttons until it's time to hit the i-frames button

>>384124217
It's also a game where you can mess up pretty badly and miss things if you're not paying attention and the other games (or at least 3) are more lenient in that regard.

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>>384124846

I'll mainly compare it to Skyrim here because I never played NA
>Combat has weight to it
>Weapons aren't just reskins, actually have unique movesets
>High risk yet ultimately skill based combat, completely possible to defeat most enemies without taking a single hit based on your personal skills, no cheese required
>Interesting world with varied environments and enemy design, enemies aren't mostly copy pasted humanoids who despite having different names function identically (The difference between a Falmer, a Draugr and a Bandit in gameplay terms is negligible), enemies tend to have unique features and movesets
>No bullshit fluff, Skyrim is just the Sims for people who can't admit they like the Sims
>Actual feeling of progression

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>>384123147
It's garbage and the combat is always the same in core.
>das1: wait till enemy attacks while staying out of range or rolling and then attack, or just attack him first if he dies in 1 hit
>das2: wait till enemy attacks and exhausts his shitty 360 tracking combo and attack
>das3: wait till enemy attacks and exhausts his shitty combo or attack the enemy if he has no poise instantly and mash r1 until he dies
The core is always the same, shit is so boring I'm glad they are done with the series. It's as much of a game as Uncharted, and yet people praise the series as the second coming of christ.

>>384125597
But anon, souls games have the most engaging and interesting battle system

>>384125597
You can literally boil any game down to "all you do is press buttons" but here's your (you) anyway you fucking cunt

>>384125863
Boil any dmc game (not the new one) to only pressing one or two buttons you dumb cunt, delusional soulsbabby thinking his game is deep in any way.

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>>384124348
>every boss has second phase
>roll to win
>better bosses
are you retarded?

>>384125997
What are you talking about? Roll to win is in every souls game. Different phases are good and many of them are not different from first phase.

>>384125975
>Boil any dmc game (not the new one) to only pressing one or two buttons
>one or two buttons
>moving the goalposts this hard
Haha why are you so upset anon?

>>384125975
DMC is a linear experience, an arcade-like beat-em up, converted into 3D with anime characters. Completelly different thing, comparing the battle systems of a slasher game and an action RPG is not correct. I find Devil May Cry and other curayzee games boring - but I love Dark Souls games, because I find them interesting. And not because "it has a deeper battle system than in Devil May Cry lmao"

>>384125997
I'm not sure what your critique tries to achieve. DS3 bosses, in general, have more varied and complex movesets, visually more impressive arenas, a lot of different sort of boss battles unlike DaS (Slow demons), DaS2 (Boss knights) and BB (Flailing beasts). Lore wise most bosses are quite detailed, and in general are top notch.

>>384126182
>>384126124
Guess you just have shit taste, the worst thing is that I could beat both of these autists in their own games.
Sad!

>>384126082
Rolling is way much stronger in 3. Plus, different phases is not always a good thing when you have a game all about memorizing patterns.
Dark Souls 1 had none of that, and is a master-piece.

>>384126315
May I suck your dick then?

>>384123201
the fact that there is a "right" play style = the game has bad design

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>>384126385
Say no more.

>>384126315
>Trump poster
Guess that explains why you're a fucking moron

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>>384126481
>Trump poster because I said Sad! after my post
Go and crawl back to whatever shithole you came from, this wasn't about politics.

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>dark souls
dont fall for this meme,pic related is the real deal

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>>384126359
>Dark Souls 1
>a master-piece

>>384123147
really good sense of timing and weight to the combat. A fuckoff big hammer will stagger an enemy appropriately, while in Final fantasy you're flailing around a 1-tonne sword and the enemies react to it like they're being poked with a finger.

>>384126654
They're both great games my man

>>384126457
>those hips
hhhhhnnnnnnnnnnngggggg

>>384125597
This

The games are fun, but people that think the games have a deep combat system are retarded.

>>384126613
What if I crawl into your shithole anon?

>>384125102
>>384125302
>le ebic niger reaction maymay

>>384127201
>desperate bump for his shit thread
a (you) and a bump for your thread as well my fellow redditor :-)

>>384123147
Its kind of nuts how Kingdom fucking Hearts has more satisfying combat than Nier Automata. The risk:reward stakes are higher and there's more variety. Meanwhile Nier is fundamentally broken by a spammable no-cooldown infinite iframes dodge. What was Platinum thinking?

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>>384126359
>Dark Souls 1
>not memorizing patterns
Everygame, from demon souls to the dark souls series to bloodborne has you memorizing patterns.

>>384127574
exactly. If you have every boss with a second phase, you take focus off that. It's more shit to memorize and that is not good.

>>384127913
You don't have to memorize phases though. I beat a lot of bosses on the first or second try, the hard ones tended to be multiple enemy bosses where memorizing patterns isn't the problem, but rather positioning. The remaining bosses that are both hard and single enemy encounters are the only ones that require pattern memorization, and this doesn't amount to a large fraction of them honestly.

>>384127913
How does that take focus away? You just have to memorize both phases, which gives it even more focus.

Has every anon in this thread conspired to flood /v/ with dark souls threads and bait? I really cant tell if half these posters are trying to actually talk about a game thats been talked about to death, and if the other half is bored and goading them along like toying with your favorite neighborhood tard. Dark souls is my favorite game, but c'mon, this shits discouraging.

>>384128250
There's literally one thread in the catalog about Dark Souls. Fuck off if you don't want to talk about it you whiny nigger.

>>384124846
You don't know what tank controls are.
Or you're baiting while knowing that the people who use KB+M for Dark Souls is a minority (assuming KB+M actually forces tank controls in the first place).

>>384126425
Not the game's fault you play like shit.

>>384124846
Gothic is tank controls, DS is 100% standard

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>>384126425
>t. Oliver Cragg

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>>384123147

God i hate threads like these

Shit posting and endless nonsensical arguments occasional insults and sooner or later the word autism/reddit get's dropped or suddenly it's a discussion about lgbt and politics

Why the fuck do i keep coming back to this toilet dump of the internet

>>384129706
Some people here talked about game mechanics and such, it's not that bad

>Explore Lost Izalith
>Kill those 4 monsters down the whole
>Long time later I continue the onion knight quest.
>His story won't go on because I killed the monsters

How the fuck was I supposed to know. I didn't want to use a guide theough most of the game and now I'll have to wait until NG+ to see father and daughter reunited.

Logan and Solaire also didn't deserve their fate. I missed pretty much the only non tragic subplot of the game.

>>384130519
>to see father and daughter reunited
Oh, anon...

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>>384130519
Accidentally hit Siegmeyer in Anor Londo and ended his wee quest right then and there.

>>384123201
>can finish it fist only
>can finish it with any weapon
>can finish it with no rolling
>can finish it with 1 hp 1 stamina
???

>>384130519
I've never saved Siggy. It's too much effort for a slab.

>>384129706
I was gonna call you a faggot before I even looked at your image.

What sort of huge cock guzzling dipshit walks into a place and goes "THIS IS AWFUL, JUST ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE, I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW"? It's not even the board that you clicked on, it's this specific topic that could easily be hidden or scrolled past.

>>384131787
you can fix it, ask the dude in the belltower to absolve you

>>384132106
Too late for that, I killed him and completed the game.

>>384132085

>I was gonna call you a faggot before I even looked at your image.

Right thx's for perfectly demonstrating what i'm addressing.

cock guzzling dipshit, a least your insults are pseudo-creative

>>384130519
>non-tragic

YOU'RE IN FOR A RIDE, LAD.