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why are people so mean in chats?

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why are people so mean in chats?
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>>384121427
why cant people take screenshots?
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>>384121427
Why don't you l2p, you faggot cheeser?
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>>384121835
>not 'f aggot'
ONE JOB
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>>384121427
Internet anonymity.
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op ball chaser faggot
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>>384121952
kill youself irl
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>receives constructive criticism
>cant handle it
>"waaah wai r peple so meen :'("
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>>384121427
Because it's free both of consequences and effort, fun and relieves you from your own responsabilities in the game as you can blame your teammates.
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Why are people so mean on 4chan?
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>have a group of friends to play online with
>one I've known for years IRL
>he's the most thin skinned faggot
>if someone types GG EZ you can bet he'll start a fight over it
>always tells us on Discord how he'll be reporting them
>anything that could be considered "BM" he'll bring up
>I just have to sit there and be like "Haha well whatever man let's just find a new lobby."
People like this really exist and they really play competitive games.
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People are asses online because they won't be held accountable. KYS

Keep Yourself Safe :)
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>>384121964
It's this. Go to anything where you have to meet people face to face and you can damn well sure they'll either act proper or get shit out of the community.

Unless it's the FGC. I hear they're different.
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>>384122635
>Because it's free both of consequences

Not always.
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>>384121427
>GELADA_BABOOM
What did he mean by this ?
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>>384125616
ha
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That's just what children are like generally.
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>>384125616
>only because he mentioned school shooting
smdh
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>>384121427
Guarantee he’s bronze/silver
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>>384125616
That's absurd, he didn't even make a specific threat.
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Don't know if it's just me, but I feel like people have been getting ruder in the internet compared to back when internet was just starting to take off. Which to me is a shame, because especially when you play games online, it feels like meeting nice, decent people has become the exception. I barely communicate in online games anymore because of that.
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>>384126595
Nah, I feel the same.
Back when I started playing LoL in 2010 the level of trashtalk was nowhere near what it is today.
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>>384125616
land of the "free"
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>>384126595
I think the real change is that people have stopped bothering to talk at all because they assume everyone else is a twat. The level of shittalking is exactly the same, it's just the the only thing being said now.
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Why are people so mean in real life?
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>>384126595

Western civilization is falling apart and these kids cope with it by being rude to strangers on the internet.
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>>384126595
Nah. Back in the mid/late 90s all of the online games I was playing said even more horrible shit. For instance, in Infantry Online the go to insult was 'Get raped'. Shit like that has kinda fizzled out, thankfully.
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>>384124397
DSP got kicked out after everyone got sick of him recording Majors with a tripoded camera in between the players only to upload it on youtube for the revenue along with him being an insufferable douche in general. Even the FGC has upper limits.
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>>384126721
>>384126804
I suppose it also has to do with the fact that the internet is nothing extraordinary anymore. Back when I played my first online game of Warcraft 3, I was amazed that I could just talk and play with other people like that, but nowadays everyone has a chat app on their phone and it's really nothing special anymore. With so many more people on the internet, I suppose it's only natural that you eventually stop caring about most of them.

Still a shame though. I find it very annoying that people have become so aggressive, especially in competitive games. It's not like trash talk affects me, but when I log on to play games in the evening, I do so to relax and have a fun time, and it just feels disappointing when everything that is said in games aims to insult other people.
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>>384121427
Because they're miserable people. Have you ever met a person who is happy and content with life who raged in an online game?
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>>384127038
That reminds me LowTi3rGod was on an Evo Stream recently and was actually pretty respectful. I mean he's still a horrible person but he knows how to act in public.
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>>384125616

>amerifat justice system

LAND OF THE FREE
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People who can't speak english should just shut the fuck up.
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>>384125616
#justamerifatthings
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>>384127102
I don't play any online game where you have to cooperate with strangers, it's just awful now.

So many people seem to have that unfortunate combination of being insecure, angry and stupid.
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>>384125616
>Lol at Euros we are land of the free.
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>>384126595
It's really the same, Percentage wise at least. There are simply far more people on line than in the 90s so it feels more prevalent.
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Because people are horrible, next question
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>>384124070
My new roommate plays LoL. He's going to play for a collegiate league. He rages nonstop. Yelling, pounding, calling every little thing bullshit. Competitive games are cancer.
How do these people drive to work without killing someone
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>>384127119
This. Best reply in thread.
What's worse is the most popular games are online pvp, which itself tends to create a lot of unnecessary friction.
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>>384127168
Odd considering LTG is larger than like 90% of the FGC.

but yeah, the fact that you're anonymous and playing online with a 1% chance of getting found means you can be a pretty major cunt to people with little to no repercussions.
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>>384121427
Who fucking cares?
Do you want people to be kissing your ass?
People play games to vent or relax, and it's kind of endearing to be called a faggot online at this point
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Miserable people love starting shit. For example I have a neighbor that constantly tries to fuck with my property hoping I'll get into a dispute with them. They need to constantly involve other people in their bullshit; its the only way to keep them distracted from whatever their fucking problem is.
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>>384124070
I'm fine with every insult and every brag but
>gg ez
Is legitimately infuriating
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>>384127119
I'm not completely happy with my life but I still put in every effort to keep my rage out of chat or voice chat. These guys have no excuse.
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>>384125616
Holy shit murrica
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there no consequences because you cant punch through the screen and break their nose
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I love winding these people up. Games would be boring without them.
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>>384125616
>free speech
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>>384121427
if theyre mean its usually because they see an opponent team they can beat with teammates who have the slightest idea of what theyre doing. if your constantly getting bullied you need to get fucking good its the truth and it hurts. this is why. /thread.
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>>384128109
This. Having people tell you you aren't worth a sweat is bothersome. You at least want to give a challenge to the other person.
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>>384126982
This. Nigger, faggot, retard, get fucked, uninstall, etc.

Now
>call somebody an idiot
>get a temp ban for "toxicity"

You lived a sheltered existence if you thought people weren't as bad before.
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>>384128924
Sounds more like they're idiots who only win when they're being carried by good players.

This is an English language image board by the way.
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>>384129224
Theres nothing wrong with my last post moron. You sound like you stay in silver in all the games you play
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>>384121453
It's easier to upload for phone posters.
They ruined everything.
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>>384129345
So do you always use capitalisation for every other post or is it only when people make fun of you about it?
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>playing anything that is advertised as "competitive"
>not expecting serious fags
well, yeah
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>>384127102
What fucking games do you people play? Even when im feeling like CSGO the worst I get are tryhard faggots that take videogames too seriously or easily-muted memeing high schoolers. Everyone else has been a huge bro
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>>384122576
le kys xD
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>>384129653
>>384129653
I honestly didn't even notice i capitalized anything until you mentioned it. thanks for being the grammar police on 4chan of all places kek. Also you shouldnt take your anger out on me because you suck ass at video games
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>>384121427
>this guy ate a ton of salt in a frustrating game and tries to remove it by playing another frustrating game
i do the same mistake with csgo/hollow knight and then trying to relax on tf2
only solutions are:
1) play on a game that require less concentration (or a singleplayer game)
2) stop playing, have a break, take a big breath
3) look at some funny shit on YT
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>>384129910
Matchmaking gets all toxic people together.

I play LOL's ARAM exclusively and I don't remember anyone was toxic to anyone in a long time.
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Good player fucks up
>oh shit
>well gg

Shit player fucks up
>fucking loser cheeser
>kill yourself f aggot
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>>384130124
How do you live like this?
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>>384130124
Bruh you're the only one getting mad here, not him.
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>>384129667
>serious
>being a raging cunt
>the same thing
I take competitive games 100% seriously and I've played well over 200 or 300 hours of various games competitively, and like anyone else who does that, I've been frustrated during them quite often. But I've never once raged to a degree that I insulted others, let alone told them to kill themselves.

Don't mistake throwing insults around like a child is a standard part of playing a competitive game seriously. It isn't, or at the very least, it doesn't need to be.
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>>384125616
>Texas

Damn, dat nigga dead. Rip in peace.
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>>384130326
where in my post does it imply im mad
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>>384130434
>I take competitive games 100% seriously
I cringed
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>Recently downloaded TF2
>only play Engineer
>terrible at him since I'm still learning
>12hrs of casual later, still shit
>nobody in Voice/Text chat called me out yet
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>>384130628
I know right, like taking anything seriously in the current year, dude.
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>>384130628
kys
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>>384130434
ahaha how is that youtube coming buddy, tryhard fag
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>>384129910
Mainly Overwatch at the moment, and yes, that game does have a very bad community in my opinion.

I do enjoy playing it competitively though, and I often solo queue when my friends aren't available. Most of the time I end up disappointed because you really need a lot of luck to actually get thrown together with people who want to play as a team. A lot of players call gg the moment someone makes a mistake or start flaming who they think is the weakest link in the team if everything isn't going perfectly, and that often makes it impossible to play the game.
When I was in school, I played basketball (semi)competitively and there it was a given that you needed to work together with the other people on your team to win the game, because that's what the team is for. Strange that so many people completely disregard that, as if it didn't apply to team-focused online games.
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>>384130628
why else are you competing? for fun?
get out
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>>384131010
>being a milennial
>not trying at anything at all

sounds about right you pussy faggot
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>>384130669
In TF2, there is a big difference between
>just plain shit
and
>shit but trying
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>>384131041
>Mainly Overwatch at the moment
>Autistic
>Woman
>Child
which one of these are you?
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>>384129560
no, moot ruined everything by normalizing 4chan during fappening headlines, then selling it

he basically stabbed the site in the back, then sold off its corpse
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>>384131093
Oh yeah i am sure you are raking in the big bucks loser kek
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>>384127697
You call yourself a man when you don't even kill at least one person driving to work?
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>>384125616
>Revealed he lives near a school

Wow that's insane I don't know anybody who lives near a school.
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>>384130628
this
you're a top retard if you take playing "competitive" games proper serious
faggots like that enable tumors such as esports to live
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>>384131282
who cares if hes not making money the point is to compete and take it serious
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>>384121964
>Internet anonymity.
this is also why /v/ is filled with shitposting.
It should be the best place but people just use it as an excuse to be terrible without consequence
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>>384131221
Baggagecuck killed /prog/ and /lounge/
He can never be forgiven
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>>384131652
>who cares if hes not making money the point is to compete and take it serious
Sounds like a massive waste of effort if you aren't making money
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>>384131819
do YOU make money while you play video games? because if you don't then its a massive waste of effort
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>>384132051
No, but i also don't take competitive games 100% seriously like an autistic manchild
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I've never seen so many angry butthurt fags as there are in rocket league
No other game I've ever played has had more people who will spend the entire match bitching and owngoaling out of spite
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>>384131761
This, what the fuck? How much bandwidth could text boards possibly use? And why did they kill /z/? It feels like 4chins is gradually becoming more NO FUN ALLOWED.
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>>384132354
There are a lot of people that think they’re better than they are and don’t realise goals are their fault due to ballchasing, bad challenges or positioning, so they just blame their team for not saving it instead.
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>>384132447
Yeah basically
It doesn't help that the mods are a bunch of newfags
>gookmoot doesn't give a single fuck about the quality of the site
>either doesn't speak English well or pretends not to to avoid feedback
>RUINED /his/ by allowing humanities
>continually asks for suggestions on how to fix /v/ yet never does anything
I really fucking miss moot
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make me miss battlenet
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>>384128109
for me it's mostly the fact that they're sneering while typing it, they know it's not true, they tried hard.
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>>384132854
>wanting moot back
Yeah nah that faggot would just sell us out and ruin the site the minute he starts fucking some sjw whore
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who takes car soccer seriously lmfao
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Because they go into the match expecting to win and when they don't they make up excuses as to why that happened to avoid admitting they just weren't good enough to beat those opponents yet.

This usually manifests itself as shit talking the opponents and claiming they used all kinds of ''no skill required'' bullshit tactics.
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>>384133018
Autistic manchildren, same people that like arms, smash, or splatoon
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>>384133095
what do they say when they
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>>384121427
RL chat is absolute cancer, I actually do better with it disabled. What actually bothers me the most are teammates spamming "take the shot" as if every ball they touch is a perfect pass.. worthy of leaving our goal open, f ucking morons.

Add me on ps4 if you wanna, EstevezIan
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>>384132854
Well, moot was the one who killed the text boards. At least An Hiro mostly stays away and doesn't do random shitposts for attention like moot did all the time, killing every thread he posted in
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>>384132972
Moot didn't fuck us, the only reason public opinion changed against him was because he didn't allow gamergate faggotry to continue
So obviously he was an SJW shill cucklord

In any case, whether or not you liked him, I can't imagine it's possible for anyone to like gookmoot more
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>>384133018
It’s difficult and serious business
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>>384125616
>still, beating hearts
Which is it?
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>>384124070

I don't know why it's so fucking hard to just mute shitheads in online games. When I started playing overwatch I realized real fucking quickly that only two types of people used their mics, idiots that just leave it on 24/7 so I can hear their breathing and butthurt guys that just talk shit all game. It seriously didn't even take a minute to go into settings and turn off mic volume. If someone actually has something worth saying they can use the in-game commands to relay it anyway.
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>>384133282
Gook does nothing, its better than moot fucking us.
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>Not muting all chat at the start of every game
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>>384121427
Why is everyone a thin-skinned limp dick faggot?
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>>384133224
>estevez

I don't like foreign spics sorry
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>>384121964
this. most these dudes are pussies irl and acting tough online is all they have. it's a lot like some of the losers who come here just to be cunts because they can't get an ass beating through the internet.
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>>384133510
post your pic twink,bet you're weak as fuck and pasty.
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>>384133461
i do this for csgo and its honestly the best way to enjoy the game. so much more enjoyable and every single time i go with my gut and not have to hear someone backseat gaming it works. although it cant help if my teammates are shit
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>>384133359
>gook does nothing
hes a shady bastard and fakes poor english to avoid going into detail about anything
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>>384133346
i leave my mic running and then i play gucci mane in the background so autists will complain.
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>>384133510
millennials
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TVTropes calls it the "Global Internet Fuckwad Theory." I think they got it from a webcomic that spells it out pretty clearly.

Normal Person + Internet Anonomity = Total Fuckwad.
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>bait nerd rage into racism
>report
Enjoy buying the game again
Censorship is pretty fucking dumb but if I can get people banned I imagine they are going to get more pissed than anyone they were trying to piss off.
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>>384133528
kys then u f ucking noob!
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>lose a very close match that has been tied for several minutes
>"gg ez"
How do you respond?
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>>384133876
you go cry to your momma
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>>384129667

this is part of the reason I stick to quickplay/arcade modes in multiplayer games. most of the tryhards gate themselves off to the ranked modes so I don't gotta deal with their "m-muh meta" whining.
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we are talking about the gaming community in general wtf do you expect ?
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>>384133876
I dont
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>the guy getting carried chats the most shit
Why is this?
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>>384133876
I mean i assume people usually post it ironically so i dont
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>>384133876
"u got carried", quit immediately if he's MVP
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>talking shit in Rocket League

why bother?
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>>384133876
I'm literally too lazy to communicate. Might as well talk to a stump.
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>>384121427
Because shit talking is inherent in games. Board games, card games, ball games and sport in general people shit talk. It tilts people, it makes the game more lively, it adds an extra stake to it like betting with the whole face & heel/rivalry aspect.
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>>384133876
dude haha funny joke close one :)
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>>384134148
Gets into their head in 1v1 if they’re thin skinned
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I turn text chat off first thing in any multiplayer game and mute any undesirables. gg ezbrzcvrgrl
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>>384122576
>"kys! What? I'm just giving you constructive criticism."

Calling toxic behavior "constructive criticism" is just a excuse to be an ass. It's not the same.
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>>384121427
>gamers are sociopaths
wow who would've thought
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Why are people so mean in online games?
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>>384134208
I imagine shit-talking scenarios to be double-heel matches.

For a heel-baby face dynamic, the heel has to start the exchange with the face only giving him 'what's coming to the hill.'

t. wrestling expert
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>>384134513
Holy fuck will you stop, what do you get out of spamming the same thing all the fucking time
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>>384134148

if you arent' spamming "nice shot!" any time someone own-goals you ain't playing rocket league right
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8ZmP4_nUn4

shit talk a best
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>>384121427

Inhibition effect. It's the same reason typically normal people can become very aggressive drivers for no reason, It's a projection of how you perceive people. Most people tend to see everything in their life as a competition and have security issues. That's why an individual will risk an accident to cut off one car and/or treat people they meet online like trash.
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>>384134513
I read that it's because most people who play games online haven't actually played real team sports and don't know how to act appropriately. They act as if it's a single player game and the other people are NPCs, rather than showing respect and patience as you would in a real team game.

I mute chat.
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>>384133224
>What actually bothers me the most are teammates spamming "take the shot" as if every ball they touch is a perfect pass

That isn't it though, you ever at work and ask for help in something you probably didn't need help with or ask to confirm something you already knew. Same with providing advice to other people because it is easier to fix shit for other people than yourself.

Also what breed of dogs are those?
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>>384134692
I say Thanks! for shit like that but I don't ever say what a save sarcastically, only when I'm actually impressed with a save
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>>384134513
>animeposter
>massive faggot
Why do these things always go together?
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>>384134656
Please stop being mean
>>384134762
I dont like playing sports and im not mean?
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>>384121427
I'd bet my saffron guardian phots that this guy is mid gold. Gold players are pure cancer, never seen anything like it in silver or plat. I think it's something about being totally average and getting stuck on the middle of the bell curve that pisses them off, like they've convinced themselves they're the next rizzo or something while the game tells them otherwise.
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>>384121964
F(ourth)PBP
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>>384121427
insecurity
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>>384134580
Eh not entirely, I normally just shit talk people for no reason. I do it in competitive games like mobas where people can focus on you, then if your team are anchors you can essentially tank up and outplay to carry your team out. Basically letting your team be the bad guys.

It's the main issue I have with game devs enforcing stupid rules. You shouldn't dox people and shit but basic banter to rile your enemies and teammates gets the game flowing. Often I'll shit talk a teammate and they will actively try harder to prove me wrong and if they concede i'll call them a pussy faggot kike nigger chink weeb who can't even play a video game properly. Either way I couldn't care less as I only focus upon bettering myself.
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>>384134513
you anime faggots are the ones always hacking you should all be gassed all of you are truly mentally unstable
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>>384121964
>>384124397
>>384131718
>>384133538
>>384135672
ah i see neogaf has found this thread
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>>384134371
It is good advice, all things considered. Why haven't you killed yourself, you faggo t cheeser?
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>>384136006
>Then i grew up and became a liberal
>Implying 4chan wasn't liberal in the early age
Who is that faggot and why is he associating us to the cancer that is the "modern left"?
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>>384136268
liberal in the traditional sense
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>>384126982
>get raped
It's time to bring it back
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>win a knife fight in 1.6
>some french guy tracks you down for almost a year
>get stabbed opening the door to him
>an inch or two away from death
fags and fag enablers have always been around its just that there are more of them now due to the accessability of computers and the internet
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>>384125616
>Hey pal why you in
How do you reply?
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>>384136268
As a reminder that you have to be a literal child to be part of the "modern right".
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>>384136268
>us
>started browsing the website a month ago
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>>384136587
ok reddit. hes still your president btw
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>>384136587
>>384136645
>S-SHE WON!
>>
This thread is full of spineless pussies
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>>384135902
Please stop being mean
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>>384127697
Competitive games are alright, but if you don't take a break and get back to the game when you're pissed off at it there's something wrong.
I normally just leave the game for like an hour and play it again.
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>>384136732
>>384136776
Two cases in point.
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>>384125616
As an Amerifat it's hilarious how ridiculously paranoid everyone is about the school shooting mess. I've seen people get into deep shit just by obviously joking about it, similar to what's shown here.
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>>384137558
hahaha

leave /pol/s website retard you dont belong here
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>>384121427
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>>384136587
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>>384137678
Grate, land where no one lives
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>>384137885
Those iligal underage voters
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>>384138143
>iligal
You forgot to switch your spellchecker from low IQ to english.
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>>384137678
>being proud to be flyover

literally laughed out loud at the thought of someone so pathetic
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>>384133173
>I play mature games like LoL, DOTA2 and CoD
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>>384138036
>>384138403
*sips liberal tears*
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>>384136006
>Seeks validation from an author on twitter

I don't think he has grown up yet.
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>>384136732
>>384136776
>>384137678
>>384137885
>>384138505
Imagine being such an autistic faggot that you sperg the fuck out at the drop of a pin and force your shitty countries godawful politics down everyone's throats.
Americans are genuinely some of the dumbest faggots in modern times, it's hilarious.
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>>384126595
I feel. No one wants to talk in MMOs anymore.
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>>384138783
I'm not even American you fucking nigger

Go back to whatever left wing cuckolding forum you came from. This website is not for you or your ilk, and it never will be.
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>>384134371
>toxic behavior

Honestly, get yourself killed
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>>384138886
Stay triggered you autistic faggot, nobody gives a fuck about your political bullshit
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>>384138783
>>384139136
>yfw browsing 4chan every day and making yourself permamad
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>>384139136
Nor yours.
Coming on 4chan to piss and whine about anonymity, you clearly don't know where you are.
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>>384139136
god i love watching the neofaggot hillary virgins that try to post here get btfo every time

kill yourself nobody would miss you
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>>384138783
yet you are here on an american website playing american games hating americans haha
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>>384135902
>citation: my ass
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>>384139136
You're a fucking idiot
>captcha crossing pablo
Probably
>>
>>384133737
He went to the university of california for 4 years, he can speak perfect english.
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>>384139917
not him but go on csgo queue competitively 10/10 if you see someone with an anime avatar you see they are blatantly hacking
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>>384138403
>living in New Jew City or Commifornia
>taxed out the ass
>have to use public transportation where the last guy who sat in your seat is homeless and pissed on it, possibly some cum
>hope those boys don't feel like playing the knock out game today oy vey
>pay two grand to live in your tiny studio apartment box

You will never know the amount of comfy you are missing out on. It's OK, keep being a good lil goy and like living in hell irl.
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>>384140078
>New Jew City and not Jew York City

nice flag you got there, looks pretty false though
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>>384140189
unfunny redditor left wing "humor"

fuck off
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How do you grow thicker skin anons? I can't take insults well in games, someone telling me that my whole family should die and that I should kill myself really makes me sad knowing that people are like this.

How do you deal with it?
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>>384140351

I'm not the one pretending to be from /pol/ when I'm really a degenerate. Please learn our memes before pretending to be us next time.
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>>384138503
Don't play any MOBA trash or Kiddie shooters, stay mad losers
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>>384140476
keep pretending retard

it failed during gamergate, it failed during the election and it's going to fail when every liberal is being rounded up and deported
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>>384140428
Stop posting anime, its the first step in not being a faggot
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>>384125616

i once got permanently suspended from twitch for saying "tomorrow would be a perfect day to shoot up the mall". within context it was just a joke but i guess some people reported me
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>>384140597
Wow CTR shill, you forgot to turn off your reddit spacing. I'm sorry Shillary didn't win, maybe next time?
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>>384140682
which mall?
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>>384140597
>Flag touching the ground

You deserve all of this Commie
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>>384140428
Why do people who post anime, have anime avatars or like anime in general always act like tremendous pussy faggots online? Constant "healslut" threads, "boipucci" threads, pathetic retarded posts like yours. Did your parents raise you to be a little faggot?
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>>384141320
It's part of the hive mind shitposter persona.
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>>384137678
Bernalillo Island represent boyz
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>thread becomes blatant politics shitposting again for no fucking reason
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>>384144346
>for no reason
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