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TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

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TONIGHT IS THE FUCKING NIGHT
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mfw tonight actually is the night
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but it's not
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>>384111493
it will be
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It's not the night.
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>>384111554
no
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Who cares. We should really talk about
HEAVY WEAPONS GUY

Why does nobdoy enjoy playing him
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>>384111352
>2017
>actually giving a fuck about a trashy ass dead beat casul twat game
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>>384111848
2slow in a game where every other class enjoys more freedom of movement.

https://youtu.be/TFBqQ1-Cmd0
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>>384111940
What do you play, dork?
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i dont even care about tf2 anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0aI9M9siX8
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NEVER EVER
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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>384112018
But Engineer is literally stationary and lots of people like to play Engie. So what about HEAVY makes him so particularly unpopula??
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>>384111940
This isn't the Overwatch thread.
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>>384112238
Cool, fuck off
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4 hours.

4 hours and 42 minutes.

Get ready.
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>>384112276
Fucking annihilated.
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>>384112238
cool
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WATCH THIS AND FUCKING CRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_c3iQImXZg
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Can you guys smell it?
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>>384112457
>no neon hats or mlp cosmetics
its shit 0/10
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>>384112337
Nah, it will drop on the 19th.
Source: the magic conch

STUFF CONFIRMED COMING IN THE UPDATE:
3 (THREE) NEW PYRO WEAPONS
A FIVE MINUTE LONG NEW OFFICIAL SFM VIDEO
NEW CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE CONTRACTS
AT LEAST ONE OFFICIAL VALVE JUNGLE PAYLOAD MAP WHICH COMMUNITY MAPMAKERS PLAYED AND LIKED
MULTIPLE COMMUNITY JUNGLE MAPS
BALANCE CHANGES TO MULTIPLE WEAPON UNLOCKS
BALANCE CHANGES AND BUG FIXES TO PYRO
IMPROVEMENTS TO COMPETITIVE AND CASUAL MATCHMAKING
NEW TAUNTS, ACHIEVEMENTS, AND COSMETICS
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>>384111940

Yeah? What superior games do you play, patrician-san?
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>>384112654
That list is too reasonable, what we get will be far better or worse.
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>>384112262
Someone answer this post.
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>>384112262
Managing buildings while sweeping for spies is interesting. Engi has a lot of choices with his buildings and it makes for interesting gameplay. Assuming you're not playing like a F2P who hides behind his sentry whacking it incessantly the whole game.
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>>384112714
That list is literally what's been confirmed by TF team head Dave Riller in an in-person video interview with the Valve News Network guy.

It's going to be big anon. Internally they're calling it Gun Mettle 2.0.
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WHY ARE WE NOT PLAYING A GAME OF TEAM FORTRESS CLASSIC RIGHT AT THIS VERY MOMENT
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>>384112818
>implying gun mettle is good
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>>384112790
So is Heavy boring and unloved because he lacks choice?

How do we give stock Heavy more choice?
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I want more indoor maps. I unironically enjoy Junction.
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>tfw running Heavy and jumping onto a point from somewhere that the other team don't see me
>start mowing down literally everyone starting from the medic
>all these ragdolls flopping around under the weight of my bullets
It is good day to be giant man.
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>>384112904
Gun Mettle was an extremely popular update even on /v/.

And they're not nicknaming it Gun Mettle 2 because it's exactly the same as Gun Mettle, they're doing it because Gun Mettle was a very big update and this is going to be a very big update.
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>>384112894
Grenades are ridiculous. The entire game is just nadespam. You see a guy and he either concjumps away or nuts a fat explosion in your face.

TFC is alright as a whole though. Need a no nades server.
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>>384112960
Junction would be a good fun DM map if the ceilings weren't so low and if Engie wasn't such a useless attacker and OP defender.

In TF2C they actually converted Junction to a DM map.
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>>384113006
The problem is that it could be just hyping up as a form of advertisement. He knows that he's being interviewed by the dude who posts news about Valve, so in order to make the update sounds good he bullshits it to be Gun Mettle 2.0.
Competitive was also supposed to be the biggest and best update, and see where that lead to.
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>>384112818
>>384113006
But Gun Mettle was lame. All it added was weapon skins, some hats, some taunts, and one original map.

>>384112913
Let him shoot the ground to give himself some air. I dunno.
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>>384112894
Because, apart from a few quirky weapons and skilled techniques that it's successor dropped, TF2 is better than TFC in every conceivable way, and claiming otherwise is pure contrarianism/nostalgia.

That's not to say that TFC isn't a fun game because it is, but I'd rather play TF2 with /v/ any day than TFC.

If you want it so bad, host a server yourself.
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>>384113106
Junction does feel like a reskinned Quake map.
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>>384111352
>2017
>SENTIENT HUMAN BEINGS ON THE PLANET EARTH STILL PLAY TF2
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Valve pls allow ctf_well, ctf_sawmill, and cp5_gorge to be playable in casual!
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>>384113114
>Competitive was also supposed to be the biggest and best update, and see where that lead to

In the interview they explicitly acknowledged that MyM was a rushed blunder, and that they were going to take longer on the update this time around to avoid those mistakes they made.
>>384113184
Like I said. This update is going to be different from Gun Mettle in the type of content it delivers. Also you forgot the huge number of well-recieved game changing rebalances that Gun Mettle added.
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>>384113410
There were a ton of empty matchmaking servers running 5gorge today. You can't select it from the menu so it means they were testing it in preparation for TONIGHT
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>>384113457
God I hope so.
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>>384113271
Lacking a bit in height variation for that, but I get what you mean. It's so self-contained and the whole thing is a big donut shape.
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>>384113457
Okay, but where are the Arena servers?
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>>384111352
PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIIIIIIIIIIGHT
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>>384113386
Not an argument sweetie. 1,800,000 people played TF2 in the last fortnight.
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>>384113569
MY ASS
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>>384113607
No one cares about your shitty game played by 1,800,000 brazillians, sweetie.
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>>384113386
I'll ask again, what do you play, dork?
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>>384113569
Nobody likes Arena. Arena is the Milhouse of game modes.
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>Haven't played since 2014
>Reinstalled it earlier this week
>Having a lot of fun just playing engineer and soldier
I missed this game, /v/.
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So... will the older skins become more valuable over time since there is no way to obtain them anymore except from someone else who already has them?

Like if I have strange factory new stuff will it probably be worth more in a couple years?
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>>384113662
What games do you play then, sweet baboo?
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>>384113663
Other video games?
Not overwatch :-)
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>>384113714
Does anyone give a shit about things besides Australium?
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>>384113693
Good to have you back, son.
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>>384113748
I want a better answer, nerd.
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>>384113810
delete your post
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>>384113760
Based on the market prices, yes. New Aussies are still being made in MVM missions every day. So the supply will never run out.
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POST YOUR NEW WEAPON IDEAS
BONUS POINTS IF THEY HAVE A GOAL THAT TEACHES SOMETHING TRANSFERABLE TO STOCK WEAPONS

>Disguise Kit
>Goal: make the use of friendly disguises more appealing
>+Friendly disguises give you benefits like more speed for a Scout disguise, explosive damage reduction for Demoman, +1 healing per second for Medic
>-Disguises take longer to apply
>-Gimped when not disguised
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Do you get angry when someone picks up your weapon after you die?

Honestly I think it's kind of flattering and cute.
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>>384114001
I don't have any unique weapons so I wouldn't know
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>>384113810
Detonator jump into backburner
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>>384114000
Too confusing for new players
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>>384113810
Every time
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Invis Watch that increases Spy's jump height while cloaked enough to let him jump over every class that isn't Heavy

Has same decloak sound as stock watch, but slightly louder. Not as intense as DR's. Slightly longer decloak time as well.

Ok idea or retarded idea.
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>>384115045
>You can jump higher
>But not high enough to clear a Heavy
sounds like I'm going to be bumping into peoples' heads 99% of the time. I'd rather just have a watch that lets me phase through people.
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>>384115216
>decloaking inside an enemy kills both the enemy and the Spy
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>>384115045
I think we should put a jump height increase on the Kunai instead; it would buff the weak Knife and add to the ninjas theme. By the way, I think you should know that every class has the same collision hitbox.
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>>384115271
Never design a video game.
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>>384115287
>Kunai
>weak
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>>384115287
>it would buff the weak Knife
lol every single 800hr spymain pubstar uses the kunai
The utility of other knives is nowhere near the survivability the kunai provides
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What is your favorite professional killstreak effect and color? I like Team Shine Singularity. Especially the way it looks with BLU.
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>>384115528
Team Shine is the only good sheen
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>>384115528
>Buying professional instead of selling it for two specialised
Team Shine is all you need, except when you got an Australium. That requires a Daffodil.
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>>384115710
and agonizing emerald on the AWPer Hand
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>>384112913

Give him a sprint meter.
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>>384115558
I think it depends. I like how Manndarin looks with the shot/torqued/stabbed to hell stuff.
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>>384115795
>tfw emerald is the wrong shade of green
VALVOOOOOOOO
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>>384114000
>The Quickscoper Sniper Rifle

>+Starts with full charge
>-full charge only lasts for 0.5 seconds and then goes down at 2x the normal charging rate
>-reload is 2x slower

Good idea?
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>>384116169
Sniper needs a kick to the balls, that's what. Stock rifle is perfect for almost everything, so why add even more cluter to the drop system?
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>>384112258
How many times are you going to post this?

Just fix the reload speed and it's good again.
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Post 'em
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>>384116369
>still have the shove mechanic
never
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>>384116381
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>>384116381
6/10
>>384116531
6/10
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>>384115424
Yes
>>384115439
No they don't. Kunai is Spy's least used Knife according to equip rate stats. Don't let memes about Youtubers fool you.
>The utility of other knives is nowhere near the survivability the kunai provides
Big Earner facilitates chainstabs for 25HP. Kunai facilitates chainstabs for 55HP.
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>>384116531
>genuine hitman absolution hat
Yeah I'd get a regular version if I were you. Unless you want everybody thinking you pre-order awful games.
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>>384116448
Then remove it too. Problem solved.
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>>384116684
>implying paople care that genuine means you pre-order
It's a cool border and that's pretty much it
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>>384112276
>still n-n-no u's in 2017
sounds about right
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>only one scattergun in the Gentlemann's Collection

That pisses me off.
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>>384116857
>tfw will never get my strange coffin nail scattergun since it's so expensive
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>>384116913
I just really wish there was a Top Shelf Scattergun.
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>>384116857
I already have the best Scattergun skin.
Guess its name, /v/.
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>>384117073
Night Terror?
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>>384117073
Killer Bee?
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>>384117128
>>384117159
No, boys.
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>>384117193
Macabre Web? Current Event?
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>>384117193
Spruce Deuce?
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>>384117073
Corsair or stock
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>>384117193
Stock
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>>384112913
Rage meter for damage reduction (and faster firing speed maybe?), similar to the Spy's cloak meter
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I just love trading up factory new stranges from those four collections with civilian and freelance grade stuff (gentlemann's, harvest, craftsmann, and teufort).

God why do I spend so much of my paycheck on civilian factory new weps and cheap worn out shit that I can trade up to civilian stat clocks.
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>>384112913
Nerf the sandvich.
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>>384117230
Bingo.
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>>384117475
I did say STOCK heavy
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What's the most fun you can have in TF2 right now?
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>>384117620
Sticky Jumper Demo.
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>>384117475
If anything, Heavy needs a bit more sustain WITHOUT the Sandvich/a Medic
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>>384117739
Like what?
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>>384117739
Someone said something about ammo granting HP to Heavy to make up for the constant chip damage he takes
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Is Pyro the least appreciated class?

>help your team to win by airblasting ubers
>get no points or mentions
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>>384117739
Yeah but if he's going to get more sustain without a Medic it needs to involve teamwork somehow.
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Is it just me or does no one use sprays anymore? I remember the spawn room being full with sprays years ago.
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>>384117786
I mentioned this in the last thread, but I think gaining health from ammo boxes, in exchange for less ammo might be a good idea. It'd also help encourage Heavies to move around the map. It might pair well if Heavy was given some way to control his firing speed, to create a dynamic between his HP and ammo
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>>384117612
Then buff the Dalokohs Bar.
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>be poor little shit f2p kid some years ago
>shit myself at every new hat acquisition
>actually have money to blow on TF2 these days
>don't even know what I want
I mean, I'm not shelling out for an unusual or australium but all these skins and taunts and cosmetics and killstreaks make it hard to decide.
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>>384117930
Valve disabled sprays on official servers because 'muh porn'
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>>384118005
Why is it that I can see some peoples' sprays?
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>Heavy Minigun

>+no speed reduction while spun up
>-20% less damage
>-10% damage resistance
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>>384112457
>Much cleaner and cartoony art style
>Level 1 sentries strong enough to take care of a massive amount of soldiers
>Heavy actually killing people out of its minigun's radius
>Scout has a rifle and it's fast enough to avoid Lv1 Sentry's fire
>Demoman has cool as fuck dynamite
>Soldiers dying easily, they probably got less than 200 hp
>No medics in the gameplay
Boy, it's the perfect game. I wish I could play the alpha version of tf2 instead of this hot garbage we got now.
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>>384114001
Helps rack up the strange count faster so it's cool.
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>>384118139
You've seent hem before and they're still saved in your temp files
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>>384117930
People were uploading viruses and cheese pizza so Valve disabled it
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>>384118139
I've heard that if you see their spray on a server where they're enabled you'll forever be able to see them as long as you yourself have them enabled.
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It will never be the night
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>>384116381
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>>384118231
Can't believe I've never thought of this.
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>>384118309
>game has a shitload of cosmetics for the Ninja hood
>still go with his 'nam cosmetics
2/10
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>>384118181
Nearly everything but the first point is a bad thing. What are you trying to say?
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>>384118391
The vest fits with the theme, though.
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>>384118396
I'd take every single point in that post over the Soldier dominance we got now.
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>>384118181
>Praises OP sentries
>While shitting on medic
Congratulations, your version of the game would be unwinnable on attack.
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>>384117974
What if stock Heavy, as a passive, regenerated HP when allies are nearby, or regained HP on a nearby allied kill?

That would encourage teamwork and help Heavy deal with small quantities of chip damage when no Medic is present.
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>>384118530
While now we have a game unwinnable on defence. Woah.
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How is Valve gonna horrifically fuck up pyro next week when it's actually the night?
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>>384118193
Wait the strange count goes toward your weapon?
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Hey /v/,
yore
ugleh
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>>384118174

I'll do you one better:
>Minigun

>+20% accuracy
>faster holster speed
>+10% damage resistance when spun up

>slight movement speed bonus when NOT equipped (i.e. Heavy moves faster when he's holding his shotgun or fists)

>-20% firing speed
>slower deploy speed
>Slightly slower spinup speed

>Rage mechanic: functions like Spy's cloak meter, Heavy gains increased damage resistance and firing speed for 3 seconds

along with >>384118535 's idea for passive HP when near allies?
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>>384118612
If he scores a kill while using your weapon yeah.
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>>384118593
>They boost the Flamethrower's damage
I already see it happening
and I'm gonna be happy until they inevitably revert it
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>>384113669
Arena is the reason i dont play counter strike, i want to actually play the fucking game not watch other people do it right after i died, if i wanted that i'd go on youtube
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>>384112457
>Pyro exists only to die

10 years and he's kept that role rock solid.
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I feel like they should give the heavy a shotgun that could be plausibly used in favor of the minigun, making him a more mobile threat.

An alternative primary, kind of like the huntsman is for the sniper.
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Why does it sometimes look like the spy backstabbed you from the front?
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>>384118574
>unwinnable on defense
what?
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>>384118854
>boost it by 20%
>nerf it by 40% after outcy
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>>384116672
you don't understand, the kunai was designed for x10 mode
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>>384119130
The issue with that is that you either make him into fat scout or just a tank with obnoxious damage resistance like targe demonan.
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>>384119310
>ignite me across the map
flare guns
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>have pro scorch shot kit I'm trying to sell
>not sure if I want to get rid of it now for cheap but still profit or wait until the update drops and the scorch shot is either buffed or nerfed
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>>384119310
mojo
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>>384119310
they're hacking, make sure to report them
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>>384119247
Scout has a very specific role in the team. The heavy having a shotgun wouldn't make him a fat scout if the weapon was designed for a role that is distinct to that of the scout.

For instance, it could be a shotgun that gives him damage resistance on successful hits, based on the damage done and up to a set cap. That would make him a frontline "tank", essentially, while not hindering his movement as much as something like the Brass Beast.
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>>384116381
Should I change the hat?
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>>384119460
flare guns have been in the game since 2008 you mong
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>>384115558
Hotrod is neat
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>>384112457
>[rocket jump waltz]
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>>384112714
That is the bare minimum required for the game to not literally die. After 3 shitty updates and MyM almost killing the game Valve knows if they push out another turd they'll actually kill the game. That's why they're taking so long.

I hope
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>>384112457
>The fucking spread of that minigun
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>>384112457
This is what you expect when you open the game, then you join 2fort, walk outside and get immediately headshot by one of the 6 snipers on the enemy battlement
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>>384119856
I played 2fort exclusively for the first 100 hours.
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How much does contract access cost again? I forgot but I need to get access ASAP so I can sell whatever shitty crate I get for $10.
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>>384119916
I restarted the game recently after playing 400 something hours in 2012 and i only ever play payload on badwater, goldrush and frontier
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>>384119987
The contract campaign ended like 2 years ago
which im sad about because i missed it
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>>384120106
The contracts drawer is still on the menu though so it's almost certainly coming back
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>>384120106
>gun mettle was two years ago
What the FUCK
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>>384120308
>"Scout? It's Pauling"
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>>384120197
In the next update they will add a new campaign, it's confirmed.
They call it choose your own adventure or something, and apparently they want to give people a bit more choice when picking a contract
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>>384119916
Same except I played dust bowl only
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>>384120696
valve pls add dustbowl to control points casual
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>>384120643
>implying there won't be a path that's optimal for profit
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>>384120805
I think they DID mention that the different choices gave different prizes.
Probably not a path per-se, but rather "given these randomized X choices this one will net you more cash"
it all stems from the incredibly fragile economy in those crucial first 2-3 days of the update
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Does anyone have any warbird collection case spare
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>>384118309
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which
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>>384121632
holy kek
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>>384113884
>mfw two cities is the only mann vs machine tour worth playing
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>>384121680
neither
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>>384121680
I don't know if it's loadout's shitty lighting but the cowl and armor looks like a terrible mix
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scrumpeh
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>>384118181
>
>
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nigga everyone in that trailer's on low hp to make shit look more effective
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>>384121680
Get some spooktacles
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>>384122420
Shit, really? I thought I had a good idea.
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>>384111848
giant crawling damage magnet.
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>>384122928
Ah, nevermind, it's passable at best here. 5/10
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>>384113004
>tfw drop in with medic uber on barnblitz from perch
>take out entire team
>guy on enemy team says in chat "that was quite the entrance"
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>>384117475
>Nerf the sandvich.

God I want to punch you in your stupid face.
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>>384123536
I'll probably just drop the hood and get a real armored helmet then.
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>>384123649
>stoopid face
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What's the best loadout to make people mad?
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>>384124119
>Stock sticky launcher
>Starts sticky spamming
You don't need anything else.
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>>384124119
Reserve shooter, its not even that strong but it makes peoole's blood boil.
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>>384124119
Lime everything scunt
Gibus pyro who makes it their mission to shut down the pubstomping gunboats soldier
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>>384118574
Are you literally
LITERALLY
fucking retarded
>>
Name a more fun loadout than
>Loch n Load
>Chargin' Targe
>Eyelander
You literally can't. Stock grenade launcher is acceptable as well.
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>>384124612
that is exactly what i am using since some time, and it's so much fun
>hit someone with a pill, then they try to run away
>charge at them with my eyelander and finish them off
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>>384124612
>loch'n'load
>fun
nigga fuck off it's trash now

donking people is where it's at
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>>384112654
>A FIVE MINUTE LONG NEW OFFICIAL SFM VIDEO
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>>384124612
>Soda Popper
>Cleaver
>Sandman
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>>384124772
I can't hear you over my across-the-map kills, Mr. Limited Range. Actually they're both really fun to me but loose cannon is only for use with tide turner for aesthetics.
>>384124873
Rip anon
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>>384124861
Wasn't expiration date like 10 minutes?
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>>384124119
Nothing. Pure stock. Not even a gibus. Stomp the tar out of the Australium and Unusual obsessed whores. It's so braindead simple.
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>>384125342
Stock is efficient, not really always the most fun
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>>384111352
Wait, people still play TF2?
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So what the fuck causes the bug with medic and interactive taunts where his weapon doesn't disappear and just floats in the air? Why hasn't this shit been fixed yet?
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>>384126210
That's just you.
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Hey fellas, I used to have this bind that made it so when I held down shift and then pressed M1 or M2 then it'd activate the yes or no voicelines. Wiped my PC and forgot to save my custom folder, any of you know how I'd be able to set the bind back up?
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>>384126720
Wait what? Do I have to reinstall or some shit? I don't get how that even happens, I don't have custom skins installed or anything
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>>384126848
check your tf2 files
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B36BXid7iQ0
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>>384126937
Pure slapstick gold
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>>384127151
>heavy with those long ass frog legs
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Be honest /v/

Do you have a main
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>>384126930
I tried the verify integrity of game cache thing and it's still happening
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>>384127391
medic, because i have to
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>>384127391
I play more engie than any other class just because it's easier in general.

No real main though, I've got like different tiers of playtime.

Engie Solly Demo >lots
Medic Heavy Spy >decent amount
Pyro Sniper Scout >only if i'm goofin
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>>384127454
Maybe you ran some scripts that clash with others. Verifying doesn't check those.
>>
TONIGHT BETTER BE THE FUCKING NIGHT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>384127659
No you don't.
>>
I am probably just bad at the game but TF2 is so frustrating for me

>Snipers that OHK you
>Spies that OHK you from the back
>Sentries that block entire areas and are impossible to take out alone
>random crits
>lots of narrow areas in maps where you get spammed with nades, stickies and rockets
>getting spammed by nades, stickies and rockets on capture points and payload
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>>384128061
Does that mean unbinding scripts would possibly help or is it still a reinstall? The only binds I have are some voice commands, explode and suicide. I don't like asking for spoonfeeding but I literally can't find anything similar to my problem with google
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>>384128595
-Use alternate routes and blast jump around
-Look behind you
-Sap then shoot it, or just use any corners. Any corners at all. No sentry spot is immune to the Demoman and the Soldier
-Crits benefit you too, baby. Learn how to stop worrying and love the bomb. They're influenced by damage done or something so they're not entirely random.
-Avoid the narrow areas? Be careful when walking in them? C'mon.
-Kill them. Walk around the explosives and just kill the dumb bastards.
>>
I still laugh at this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94NxF2F2BuY
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>>384128595
How long have you been playing?
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>tfw you accidentally craft your only dalokohs bar
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>>384128595
>I am probably just bad at the game
You really are. Snipers can be evaded and if you practice sightline denial 4D chess they will never land a headshot on you.
Spies are easily ruined by being aware enough to look at them.
Sentries may be defensively OP, but by no means are they "impossible" to take out alone. Gud players do it all the time with ease.
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>>384129019
Watch STAR_'s old TF2 videos, i soon picked up how to identify spies purely based on their actions and movements
Also just spycheck in general
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>>384112262
If that's what you really think, you're playing engie wrong.
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>>384129354
>mfw i see an engie in mvm leave their sentry stationary while a sentry buster runs up
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>>384128894
Then your best bet would be your graphic settings. Something is running wrong and it's rendering it as such. It's too broad of a subject for me to help you properly and at times people play around until it doesn't create that glitch or reinstall it completely.
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>>384128595
Here's an image to solve your sentry problem
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>>384128915
>-Look behind you

The problem is that spies hit me when I am in a heated fight.

>-Avoid the narrow areas? Be careful when walking in them? C'mon.

But you can't always avoid them. Like when you need to move the payload cart. And how can you be careful when nades, stickies and rockets have splash damage?

>>384129679
I don't play demo.

I guess my problems come from playing pubs. TF2 is made to be played with a coordinated team after all.
>>
I miss when heavy had an effective range longer than pyro.
He used to be my favorite class.
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>>384129896
>I don't play demo
that can be easily remedied by clicking on the Demoman when on the class select page
>>
Gunslinger nerf when
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>>384130073
But I don't enjoy playing demo.
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>>384129896
You're not a very situationally aware or versatile are you?

>>384130114
Shoot engi
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>>384129896
>I guess my problems come from playing pubs
No, your problems come from playing shit.
>>
>>384130230
>>384130162
Can I get some tips then? Maybe a helpful youtube video link?
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>>384112457
Doesn't seem as wacky and humerous as release tf2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGGf5dwfi6Y
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>>384130127
Learn to aim those fukken pills and you surely will. Also, Chargin' Targe will be useful if you truly have big trouble with spam. Don't use the eyelander.
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>>384119532
Yes Vive La France is superior in ever way
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>>384112457
>Rocket actually sticking out of the launcher

that looks so much better
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>>384130114
Killing gunslinger will kill the only interesting playstyle engineer has. He needs to have an offensive option.
It's not like it's difficult to beat, just go soldier or demo and one shot the senteries.
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>>384130279
Your post is being swarmed with tips, and you're not even taking them, you're just basically saying
"I'd take these helpful tips but i'm too fucking lazy to get good, someone give me a LMAOBox download link please"
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>>384130567
>Your post is being swarmed with tips

Which sound pretty vague to me.
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>>384127391
I don't main but I do have classes that I'll play pretty much exclusively for long periods of time
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>>384130279
For one aim. Learn how to do that. Two read the flow of your team and check what is needed and what's not, but before you do that understand the strength and weaknesses of your class. After that setup a support role and I don't mean just classes. It's called team fortress for a reason and it will take an entire team to win.
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>>384130330
>cloak and dagger
No you fucked it up
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I don't heavy much but I RNG blessed me with cosmetics

Also did something happen to the economy? I only ever trade 2-3 scrap for stranges/killstreak kits and lately everyone and their mother has been taking me up on it
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>>384130835
I never play spy and that's one of the only things I have for him since i can't craft it away

It is useful though for determining if someone is aimbotting though
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>>384130114
Retard alert, Gunslinger is balanced now. Everyone knows this.

>stickies one shot minis
>pills one shot minis
>rockets two shot minis
>DH rockets one shot minis
>sappers one shot minis
>meatshots one shot minis
>charged sniper attacks one shot minis
>huntsman arrows one shot minis

Etc.
>>
What should I name my Airwolf Sniper Rifle?
0 gets it.
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>>384130114
They already nerfed it
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>>384130330
Don't listen to the other guy, C&D is Spy's most fun Watch and most powerful Watch in competitive play. He's running on outdated information from before when C&D was buffed, that's why he thinks it's bad.
>>
>>384131075
gas niggers
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>>384131075
"I'm not good enough for scout :("
>>
>>384131075
airyiff sniper rifle
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>>384130114
I'd go as far as to say it needs a buff, honestly. But it's fine as it is now.
>>
>>384131230
Winrar
>>
>>384131230
gg ez
>>
>>384131075
The Infant Annihilator
>>
Airborne Attire this time.
7 gets it.
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>>384130629
Alright I'll make my own set of tips for your original post.

>Sniper OHK: Headshots aren't easy. Make it less easy for them, aka jumping around, behind nearby cover.
>Spies OHK: Watch TF2 videos by STAR_. Whenever he kills a spy, go back and look at how that spy was behaving before death. That's how i picked up how to identify disguises.
>Sentries: Demo, soldier, medic+heavy, sentries aren't as strong and unstoppable as they look.
>Random crits issue: crits can also be used by you, dodging and jumping helps.
>Narrow areas: Don't stop moving while in them, or just accept your death at that point
>Payload/control points spam: More often than not, a good amount of your team will be on the point. Moving around also helps.

Extra: Always double-fire when spychecking incase of dead ringers
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>>384131525
Benis :DDD
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>>384131525
Kurt Cobain's Jacket
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>>384131525
nigger killer delivar
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>>384130279
fucking play demo, you spaz
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMrdty8LNw
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>>384131525
Caliphate's Kaboom Coat
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>>384131730
this
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>>384131598
reroll
>>
>>384131525
gay ass name
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>>384131525
Yeah!!!

you gotta include the exclamation marks
>>
>>384131525
Trump is love
>>
>>384131525
Nigger Lover
>>
>>384131525
Jews own you
>>
>>384131525
Daddy's Cumrag
>>
>>384131525
some really edgy name in japanese
>>
>>384131525
riproarin boogerpenis
>>
>>384131525
My wife's son's jacket
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Oh by the way it's strange.
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TONIGHT IS THE FUCKING NIGHT
TONIGHT IS THE FUCKING NIGHT
TONIGHT IS THE FUCKING NIGHT
TONIGHT IS THE FUCKING NIGHT
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>>384131525
Obama raped USA
>>
>>384131525
>>384132096
Vintage Camera Beard
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>>384132137
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>>384132137
2 in a row!! ding ding ding
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>>384132096
I Love Cheese Pizza
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Guys stop trying to turn this into a roll thread, people were talking about vidya
>>
>>384132137
winrar
BONUS ROUND
Bill's Hat and paint for it.
4 for paint
6 for name
2 for description
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>>384132286
starting with name, obviously
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>>384132286
Benis :DDD for name
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>>384112457

>the music
>the clean art style

why was it so perfect

where did everything go so wrong
>>
>>384132286
>>384132369
Stop faggot
>>
>>384132126
where the fuck is this from
>>
>>384132286
:b:ill's hat
>>
>>384132286
U.S.A. Won Vietnam
>>
>>384132286
Haha guys look I'm an army guy!
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>>384132418
That COMMUNITY CREATED short that came out a few days ago. It's fucking nothing.
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>>384132286
GOOKS N SLANTS
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AFTERNOON IS THE NOON
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>>384132286
This guy respects women
>>
>>384132286
CHINKS N SKINKS
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>>384132286
Nuck Figgers
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>people call TF2 casual
>These same people go into casual server and get shit on by oscar.lopez.46222
>mfw
>>
What are we waiting for?
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>>384132487
what was the short about
if it involves mann vs machine i'm not interested i just want a short purely based on the gravel war
>>
>>384132537
reroll
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>>384132286
6 plz
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>>384132680
it's ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNVeSSLzNuc
>>384132286
GIGA NIGGER
>>
>>384132709
DOUBLE reroll
>>
>>384132286
Please report this hat
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>>384132286
Will pocket for scrap
>>
>>384132286
ben garrison
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>>384132886
WINRAR
Paint time.
4 once again
>>
>>384132886
terrible GET
>>
>>384132935
Balaclavas are forever
>>
>>384132965
fuck you the rest were terrible
>>
>>384132981
Reroll
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>>384133134
WINRAR
Description.
Roll a 2.
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>thread derailed into a roll thread by some literally-who to name his shitty cosmetics
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>>384132935
team spirit
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>>384133206
"I derailed a 4chan thread for this, there was much asshurt"
>>
>>384132935
team sporot
>>
>>384133374
reroll
>>
>>384132935
lime or bust
>>
>>384133374
reroll
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>>384133432
>someone rerolled for me
>got it
fucking madman.
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>>384133432
Winrar
Thanks m8s
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>>384133532
>ANOTHER 2
HOLY SHIT. IT'S LIKE DESTINY OR SOMETHING.
>>
>>384132935
>people win the roll
>OKAY TIME FOR BONUS ROUND FOR THE THIRD TIME
>DAY 15 GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 15
>K-R-A-B-B-Y P-A-T-T-Y SPELLS I
>ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-
>DAAAAAY 23 GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 23
>SIX THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR
>DAAAAAAY THIRTY
>>
>>384112018
what is with tf2 videos and god awful music?
>>
>>384119641
they're probably just fucking lazy
hope valve put it out of its misery, maybe a better modding scene could come out of it
>>
>>384133596
Autism
>>
TF2 is the Overwatch killer! Hip hip hurrah!
For real though, when can Pyro get the napalm launcher from TFC? The flaregun is a piece of shit when your other option is the superior shotgun.
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>>384133914
I use the manmelter.
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>>384129678
So I just completely reinstalled TF2 and I'm pretty sure I've fucked with every graphic option at this point and it still happens, have I been cursed by some voodoo shaman or something? The fact that it literally only happens for my main class is pretty infuriating
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>>384133984
>they didn't call it mann-melter
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>>384134118
It melts men, not Mann Co..
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>>384112018
Look how pretty Gorge is in the thumbnail guys.
>>384133909
Not an argument sweetie.
>>384133914
>when can Pyro get the napalm launcher from TFC?
Never. If you want to use a rocket launcher that sets people on fire while wielding a Shotgun, play Soldier with the Cow Mangler. Otherwise shut the fuck up.
>>
has that stupid fucking engy frag vid been posted yet?

>>384133914
flare's fucked more because of shitty afterburn mechanics and only doing solid damage to shit that's already on fire
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>>384134118
>HAHA DUDE IF WE MAKE THE SAME JOKE OVER AND OVER IT WILL BECOME EVEN MORE FUNNY EVERY TIME WE SAY IT LOL
>>
I hope the pyro gets some more flamethrowers. Or at least have the phlog retweaked so it's not retarded. I love the weapon aesthetic stuff but mechanically it's always been stupid.
>>
>>384133997
Did you try changing your settings outside the game? Including dx versions?
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>>384134595
flare is fine
>>
>>384134635
You do realize you're in 4chan
>>
>>384112457
Was that demoman hurling dinamyte thing ever in the game
>>
>>384134952
No they took it out before release because it was OP
>>
>>384134710
good joke
flare is only effective with degreaser or against retards
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfqIUSYH-nI
What makes me a good demoman?

MY EYES!!!!!
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>>384126817
alias +voiceyesno "bind MOUSE1 m1voice; bind MOUSE2 m2voice-attack; -attack2"
alias -voiceyesno "bind MOUSE1 +attack; bind MOUSE2 +attack2; -attack; -attack2"
bind shift "+voiceyesno"
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>>384134710
If it's fine they won't change it at all in the Jungle update. You're gonna eat those words punk. The best Pyro weapon is the shotgun. There's nothing wrong with Pyro getting a throwback weapon that changes how the class is played. At this point in time, TF2 would benefit from such a change. Hence the Jungle update.
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>>384135327
fug there's a semi colon missing in the first line, fix it yourself
>>
>>384135030
Wrong. 2014 called, they want their antiquated knowledge of what's viable back.
Flare has been successfully used many times against competitive players who could kick the shit out of you. It just needs a player with good aim.
Degreaser comboing on the other hand is old hat.
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WHO TEEK HERE?
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>>384135502
>30 damage and easily cured afterburn
maybe you can mildly annoy a comp sniper after he's put a hole in you
>>
>>384134705
I just tried -dxlevel 80, -dxlevel 81, -dxlevel 90, -dxlevel 95 and -dxlevel 98. The bug still happened with all of them.
>>
I'm new to the game and only play 2fort as engineer camping at the Intelligence lil
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>>384135974
I remember doing that with one other guy in 2012
good times
>>
>>384135914
>>30 damage and easily cured afterburn
On the first shot, yes. The second will be 90 with no falloff. Git gud.
>maybe you can mildly annoy a comp sniper after he's put a hole in you
Nigger, Pyro as a whole is a shit class. Of course Sniper is going to be generally better than you in a long range fight when he's the fucking dedicated long range combat class. But Sniper is not omnipresent, and that doesn't mean the Flare is at fault. It's an extremely well balanced sidegrade to the Shotgun.
>>
>>384135959
Make a new steam account and build a new computer, it's the only way.
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>>384136271
almost like there's 2 seconds between shots in which it can be easily cured by the boatload of afterburn counters or the target can either kill you or leave your range
flare is like the rest of the pyro really, decent concepts mashed together and bungled
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>>384136321
REEE I JUST WANT TO HIGH FIVE MY TEAMMATES WITHOUT MY MEDIGUN TURNING INTO AN ELDRITCH ABOMINATION AND FLOATING NEXT TO MY ARMPIT
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>>384118663
GOTCHA FAGGOT
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>look into fortress forever
>the engie has a pistol that regenerates ammo and has an explosive charge shot
I have a mighty need for such things.
>>
>>384136547
>in which it can be easily cured by the boatload of afterburn counters
Even if they do have the specific unlock at hand, almost all of those are on considerable cooldowns. They get hit once, they extinguish, you have now wasted their ~30s cooldown timer for only 2 seconds' effort on your part. Then you fire your next 2 flares for a total of 120 damage.
>or leave your range
lol what game are you playing
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>>384136619
WooeooW
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>>384136108
Was it really like that in this map the whole time?
An engineer camping and the snipers dueling each other
>>
>>384136996
Yeah more or less unless my memory has been corrupted by killcams featuring the gibus sniper on BLU battlements doing the wave taunt
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>>384118663
FUCK
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>>384136871
YOU AUTISTIC LITTLE SHIT
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Do you guys use SweetFX?
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The intelligence of the average player in this game goes down every year. We had two engis defending on payload, me and another guy. I build teles, upgrade my sentry to level 3 and put down a dispenser. I look around to help the guy after I'm finished my shit. He just has a level 3 dispenser up. Right as the round starts, he builds a level one sentry right next to mine.
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>>384111940
You'd be amazed how many plebs on this board actually enjoy this shitty game in its current state. Meet the X was spammed all over the place when those cringe videos were coming out.
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>>384136857
>what game are you playing
the one where the few classes that can't kill a pyro in under 2 seconds are trying to stay far enough out of primary range that hitting them reliably is unreasonable even with perfect leading, and even then those classes regularly have escape tools, teammates, healers, and/or better ranged weapons than you
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>>384137642
Nope
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>>384137761
Those last 3 hits on the soldier with the blood on the screen is fucking satisfying
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>>384137808
>haHAA woaahh dude ouch le cringe is too stronk xDDD haHAA I'm posting this to /r/cringe
go back to your overwatch/witcher/nier/weebshit threads
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>>384137808
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>almost 10 am Valve time
>no announcements
>no countdown
I have bad news guys.
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>>384114000
Not exactly a new weapon, but I have an idea for how to unfuck the phlog.
>charge grants mini-crits instead of crits
>now has an airblast: airblast destroys projectiles instead of deflecting them, and destroying projectiles or extinguishing teammates gives some ammo back to reduce the cost of the airblast
>primary attack expends ammo twice as quickly
The phlog's mandatory "hang back and spam flares for meter" strategy now makes sense, because the pyro can support his team with airblasts while he does it.
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>>384137790
>The intelligence of the average player in this game goes down every year
Wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95iwH1UsFC4
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Remove the soldier class and this game is actually playable. I wonder why valve allowed such a shitty health sponge long range faggot class with tiny head to dominate everything.
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>>384138146
that's some nice implying.
>>384138167
>oh no a different opinion! must be bait but imma respond anyway xD
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>>384138271
>long range
Maybe on a 100% crit server, otherwise Soldier is only good for long range if he's direct hitting a sentry, which indicates shitty placement anyway.
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>>384138263
oh my fucking god

the fucking taunt after the sentry kill is like the cherry on the icing
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>>384137642
>that dead ringer
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>>384138271
Soldier isn't long range though. You're just bad.
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>>384137897
>escape tools
It's an objective focused game. If you forced them to retreat you're doing your job to gain/hold ground towards the objective.
>teammates
So what? You have teammates as well.
>hitting them reliably is unreasonable even with perfect leading,
GET
FUCKING
GOOD
>healers
Burn the healer first.
>and/or better ranged weapons than you
Flare Gun is one of the best long-range weapons in TF2. It has no damage falloff, a higher projectile speed than Direct Hit, and has much less dropoff than stickies or grenades.

The only things better at range would be Sniper Rifles, Ambassador, a Wrangled Sentry and Crusader's Crossbow.

Flare Gun is a balanced sidegrade to Shotgun which trades mid-close power for mid-far power and does a good job of it. If you don't accept that fact you don't know anything about the game.
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>>384111940
>2017
>Still getting mad at what strangers play on the internet.
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>>384138258
>>now has an airblast: airblast destroys projectiles instead of deflecting them, and destroying projectiles or extinguishing teammates gives some ammo back to reduce the cost of the airblast
Stop suggesting this, nobody wants a gimped airblast. Do something more interesting like a projectile vaccuum or a gas cloud or a jetpack.
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>15 minutes
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>>384139024
>f5
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>>384132569
oh no, it's Oryp
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>>384139024
Do I just refresh the front page until something happens
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>>384139024
>thinking anything is happening
Why must you hurt yourself this way?
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>>384139209
yea, maybe they'll tweet it out too
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anyone else like crafting hats instead of trading for them?
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>>384137808
>cringe
use a better word. could've just said the videos weren't funny
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>>384139724
I've lost a lot of money crafting hats, it almost never pays off. It is fun, though.
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>>384139724
>>
AAAAAA
IT'S UP
CHECK THE SITE
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>>384139724
I don't play trading, so that's what I do.
On my birthday I crafted Texas Dome Shine. Another reason to believe universe just hates me.
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>>384138786
>forced them to retreat
and they'll be back in ten seconds if their teams is competent
>you have teammates
good, you can makes sure the other pyro's flare gun is doing only 30 damage for all eternity
>git gud lmao
while less prominent than other factors, you underestimate unpredictable movement and projectile travel times, especially for a weapon which explicitly requires a direct hit
>burn the healer first
attempt to burn the healer first but the healer on any competent team will be standing behind either a pocket who is promptly cured of their afterburn
>one of the best long-ranged weapons
which you say while comparing it to instakill hitscan, 100-damage hitscan, 120-dps hitscan, and long-range healing, and claiming it has solid mid-long range power when it's on a longer firing interval than any of those and can only quickly and reliably deal its increased damage in close quarters
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>>384140294
YOU NIGGER ITS NOT
>>
Okay, now that we know it's not coming today which was obvious, what are the odds it comes out this week?
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>>384140569
I'm upset
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>>384140335
At least it's not a spy/sniper hat.
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>>384140335
desu its one of my favorite engineer hats
>>
What do you think if all stock melee weapons would get movement speed bonuses on equip? Kinda like running with knife in CS 1.6? Would it balance stock melee, would it make game more active, would it break some classes?
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>>384141443
Jesus man, TF2 is already CQC as fuck. Your idea would turn the game into a silly rushfest of people giving up their guns prematurely, overall dumbing it down and simplifying it for the worse.
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>>384131525
I hate myself
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>>384141443
I could see that being a good idea for some classes like the heavy and pyro, but it wouldn't make any sense on the engineer or scout.
I've always found it odd that 7 out of 9 classes have functionally identical melee weapons. I mean, if the pyro is supposed to be the close combat guy you'd think his melee weapon would be a much more distinct part of his loadout.
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>>384131525
le dank meymay game item
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>>384131525
So when are you gonna post it with all our shit on it?
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>>384116169
the charge mechanic specifically exists to prevent high damage quickscoping

this seems really backwards
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>>384142779
yeah, wait i'll fix it
>no random critical hits
>+30% damage from pyro's
perfect!!!! :)))
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>they buff pyro
>tons of people start picking him
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>>384144876
>they make pyro more skill-based
>tons of baddies stop playing pyro
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>>384145112
how could they make pyro more skill based
hes not a very complex class
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TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT
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>>384144876
>all teams have three pyros minimum now
>there are still permanently two spies on your team though
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>>384145305
I didn't say complex, I said more skill based.
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>>384145398
Memes aside, why do people name their cosmetics so often? With a weapon, people see it every time you kill them with it, but nobody would ever see your cosmetic names unless you showed them, right?
>>
Will they ever hour-long map rotations, team scramble, and TF2Hud+ back? It's terrible to only able to play for two rounds in a map you like and then having everyone leave the server.
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>>384145684
You better have at least 80% or higher accuracy with that. Any less and you're a shitter.
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>>384121680
use the default loadout, it looks the best
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>See loads of "TONIGHTS THE NIGHT" and "TF2 IS DEAAAAAAD" on /v/
>Pick up TF2 again
I don't know why I ever left, and why I never played medic before.
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>>384117876
Don't forget, you're a one man APS on payload if you stick to pooshing the cart.
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Post greasemonkeys
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>>384117876
>the whole point of Uber is temporary invincibility
>some brony faggot can just walk up to you and spam m2 to ruin the entire thing
I fucking hate pyros
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>>384146567

Pyro was my least played class for the six years I've played TF2, but all of a sudden something clicked with me this summer and I'm ripping things apart with the Strange flame thrower I unboxed so long ago.
I'm a medic main and this is the most fun I've had in forever.
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>>384146567
It seems all the years of /v/ trap threads have gayified you to the point that you are submissive to the normally sleep-inducing prospect of playing as the least interesting class in the game. Yes, not even the Heavy.
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>>384146928
Get good heavy baby man.
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>>384147312
>Least interesting
I bet you're just buttmad that you can't snipe people with the Crusader's Crossbow.
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>>384147354
>Heavy
I'm a medic main and that's why they infuriate me. If I was playing Heavy at least I'd know to turn my attention to the pyro and gun the faggot down. Most people I uber when this happens just keep trying to shoot at enemies in the distance and ignore the pyro that's juggling completely.
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>>384146695
>play soldier
>join pl_badwater
>assigned to blu
>entire team runs out to fight red instead of pushing the cart
>think they're fucking dumb
>crouch behind cart and push it half way across the map myself until we hit the second chokepoint
>this is where the temporary stalemate usually happens
>rest of team manages to get the cart down the end slope
>jump out the sniper window and spaz out near the cart and win the game
>no longer think my retard team are retards
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>>384147201
>medic main
>has fun playing the most useless class
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>>384147665
Surely this is how all games of payload should be? instead of everyone grouping to the cart, have like 1-2 people pushing the cart and the rest of the team distracting RED
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>>384111848
he's under powered as fuck with the damage rampup

pyro update is fixing him but ppl still don't play him right now because of how bad the ramp up nerf is
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>>384147928
>unless you use kritzkrieg
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>>384148209
i'm talking about pyro sweetie
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>>384147487
You have my sympathy at least. I actually became a battle medic because of that. Now instead of waiting for my team to realize they are fucking up they flock to me in the battle front, because nothing says "heal me doc" like taking all the med packs.
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>>384147928

When you have 2500 hours in the game you have the expertise to understand the utility of every class and create your own fun. Especially when it comes to airblasting everything.
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>>384140569
>what are the odds it comes out this week
It's been more than a month since the "finish up your shit and get it on workshop" post
It better come out this week, this wait is unbearable
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>>384148723

I'm burnt out on TF2 and the mix of a lack of content and glaring balance problems are starting to get on my nerves pretty bad. I like to think the update's been delayed for so long because they're doing extensive changes and testing of new balances and maps, but the cynic in me says the team is too small and Valve doesn't really care what happens to TF2 at this point. And who knows? The update itself may be a complete flop.
>>
So any of you guys here wanna play MvM for fun with me?
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>>384112654
>A FIVE MINUTE LONG NEW OFFICIAL SFM VIDEO
Keep fucking dreaming
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>>384147487
Perhaps you should hate idiots you uber who can't keep pyro at bay while being fucking invincible.
Or you should hate yourself for not telling them that they should turn around and kill him. You play most team-work heavy role in game, gotta communicate more than with other classes.
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>>384148254
oh shit i thought the "has" said "have"
heres a story though
>playing mann vs machine as medic on two cities mann up
>want australium desperately
>play medic with kritzkrieg
>upgrade nothing but the kritz and canteen
>it looked hard as fuck when the wave started but our team breezed through it
>i 70% pocketed the heavy, other 30% was actual healing and reviving the team
>still ended up being fucking vital to the team
>huge swarm of heavybots coming down the path
>take them all down in under 15 seconds with heavy kritz
>mission ends
>i get like no good loot whatsoever other than the robot parts
>still have the squad surplus voucher
>it's Your Eternal Reward
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>>384112262
Engie has the fun job of team-work and item management. You need to earn/conserve metal, move your team around, keep people healed and lock off areas of the map with your sentry IN ADDITION to general movement/combat.

Heavy just crawl around and track people, no micro-management or mini-games. Not fun.
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>>384148990
yeah i'll play, add me
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198397206843
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>>384112180
>>384112687
Chess
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>>384112262
>stationary
>GOTTA MOVE THAT GEAR UP
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>>384112262
Probably because even with the ramp-up problem heavy is infinitely more effective than an engi. At least heavy can't be destroyed from across the map by a gibbus soldier with a direct shit.
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>>384148990
Are we playing mann up or bootcamp?
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>>384149886
Bootcamp

I have no money
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>>384149243
>not fun

Engineer isn't fun at all.

It's one of the most frustrating classes to play in the entire game desu.

You realize pretty quick that everything depends on your team, and unless you run a Gunslinger loadout you have no selfdefense abilities. Your dispenser can't do shit till level 3 and even a level 3 sentry is weak as shit once the other team's Soldier or Demo main figures out where it is. Plus Spies spamming sappers, Snipers watching you, teleporters being sapped.

If you don't have a perfect team in constant communication then playing a "Classic" (non-Gunslinger Combat) Engineer is basically a death sentence to you and your fun factor.
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>>384149912
>t. underage
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>>384149912
Someone buy a fucking mann up voucher
i want STAKES goddammit
>>
>>384113006
>Gun Mettle was an extremely popular update even on /v/.
>the update that added CSGO skins
yeah being popular among retards ain't something to be proud of, you inbred autist
>>
>>384120606

"Yo, Miss Pauling! I wanna freakin' cum in your tight vagina and make sum freaky white kids wichya!"

What did he mean by this?
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>>384150064
wow that's rude, i recently spent all of my money on a new pc and i don't feel like spending my leftovers on some video game ticket.
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>>384150315
it's a fucking dollar and bootcamp is shit
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>>384140406
>and they'll be back in ten seconds if their teams is competent
10 seconds is enough time to capture a point, dongus. GG, we win because I hit you with a Flare.
>poo poo poo
Just admit the teammates point was dumb. Any weapon is going to sound underpowered if you say "Weapon user is by himself fighting this guy and his 3 teammates."
>you underestimate unpredictable movement and projectile travel times, especially for a weapon which explicitly requires a direct hit
You know what else requires a direct hit? Direct Hit. And Flares travel faster than DH rockets.
>will be standing behind either a pocket
Medics aren't psychics that can perfectly mimic their patients' movements in parallel. Pick your moment. Or just shoot someone else over there who isn't being healed.
>which you say while comparing it to instakill hitscan, 100-damage hitscan, 120-dps hitscan, and long-range healing
Try some reading comprehension retard, I was saying those are the weapons that are better than it at long range
>and can only quickly and reliably deal its increased damage in close quarters

G I T G U D
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>>384150256
>"Scout? No to whatever you're about to ask. I got something for you"
>>
>>384150064
>claims to be an adult
>willing to give valve money
??????
>>
>>384150396
what's your fucking problem?
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>>384128595
>Play Turbine
>Snipers on the other side of the map one shot you as soon as you get to mid
>Can't go afer them because Engineers place sentries on the containers that are practically unkillable
>Can't destroy the sentries since Demo's place stickies where the metal doors are at the stairs where you can't see them until it's too late
>Somehow manage to get through it all and kill everyone and destroy all their buildings
>You have been autobalanced
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>
>>384150503
Easily worth $1 not to get stuck with 5 year olds in bootcamp and play missions that are actually challenging.
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>>384127391

Medic
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>>384150629
>this
I swear to god every time i play bootcamp it pairs me up with 5 retards who speak russian and cant play the game for shit
>>
>>384150629
There is literally not a difference in terms of difficulty.
>>
>>384150667
shit randomly thrown together/10
pick a theme and stick with it
>>
>>384150784
It's pretty difficult when you're trying to play with some faggot 12 year old russian children
>>
>>384150784
good luck finding players above normal difficulty
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>>384150915
True, but that's why we're inviting /v/ people instead of playing with some autistic mexican children.
>>
Can someone just buy a fucking mann up voucher already so this game will be worth playing
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rate pls
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>>384151057
>"Congratulations! You beat MvM Mannworks on expert difficulty!"
>you come away from the game with nothing but the Darwin's Danger Shield you found mid-match"
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>>384151140
>con: overused meme chest
>pro: consistent, bold theme that works together well
8/10 overall
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>>384151030
>/v/ people instead of playing with some autistic mexican children.
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>>384150579
Kill snipers and teammates will come, ask them nicely and they might actually be useful.
>>
Hey, i got an advice regarding valve time. You should only really expect a update mostly on Tuesday or Thursday mostly. But the whole week a good time to get a update except the week ends, it's pretty much impossible unless it's a friday update with day 1 patches.
>>
>>384112654
So they're giving Pyro new weapons. What are they doing to his base mechanics to make him not shit? You can't patch weaknesses inherent to a class with unlocks, at least not without bending your game balance over a barrel.
>>
>>384150441
>the teammates point was dumb
recite the name of the game we're discussing
>10 seconds is enough
ignoring all concurrent plays on either side, your 8v8 is now a 7v8 if the player needs to flee, which is to say that the player defending the point isn't an engineer with a dispenser, a jarate sniper, another pyro, a heavy, or near any of those or a medic
>or just shoot someone else
you mean those other guys the medic can easily switch to for one second to quell the flames and heal off everything you just did before you get another shot off?
>those weapons are better
putting the flare anywhere close to weapons that can deal or heal several times its damage in a fraction of the time is still nonsensical
>git gud etc
projectiles have counterplay by their nature - if it can be responded to before it hits, you can mitigate its potential

you keep bringing up the direct hit, too, which is a remarkably poor comparison
the flare outspeeds only by a hair (a fact mitigated by flares' susceptibility to gravity), the direct hit does not strictly require a direct hit (it simply has a much smaller blast radius than normal rockets), can be fired faster than the flare gun even off an empty clip, deals greater direct damage than a non-critical flare at all ranges, and is capable of one-shotting a scout at close range
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>>384151637
I hope update hits on friday so we can have extended time to use all new exploits they will implement.
>>
bumping because i still want to talk about tf2
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>>384149495
GOTTAM
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>>384153516
reaching bump point anyways, let it die and make a new one
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>>384151140
7/10
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>>384113042
>>384113245
The problem with nades would be solved if they handled them like in Half-Life or Counter-Strike
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>>384152671
all they really have to do is give him an incendiary flamethrower, a liquid thrower and a shotgun that fires dragon's breath. If they did this they'd fix it.

Also, rate my Spy please
>>
>>384152845
>recite the name of the game we're discussing
The name of the game is "Both players have an equal number of allies in balance discussions, because any weapon sounds bad if you stack 3 players against it, you dumb fucking nigger. It's Team Fortress 2, not Team vs Solo Player 2."
>ignoring all concurrent plays on either side, your 8v8 is now a 7v8 if the player needs to flee
People push off a one player advantage all the time.
>you mean those other guys the medic can easily switch to for one second to quell the flames and heal off everything you just did before you get another shot off?

Haha yeah dumbass I forgot that the Medigun's beam has infinite range and can stretch for an infinite distance to any injured ally. "Easily." It isn't range-capped or anything.

Apologize right now for being so fucking stupid.
>putting the flare anywhere close to weapons that can deal or heal several times its damage in a fraction of the time is still nonsensical
It's nonsensical to deny that Flare is one of the best long-range weapons in TF2.
>projectiles have counterplay by their nature
Doesn't mean people always or even often succeed in exercising that counterplay. Projectiles move many times faster than players do.
>you keep bringing up the direct hit, too,
I bring it up because I'm showing you that people can manage to land shots with Direct Hit all the time in situations you're claiming as "unpredictable movement and projectile travel times". It's a matter of practice.
No shit, it's more strong than the Flare Gun. Flare is a SECONDARY and DH is a PRIMARY. That doesn't mean that they don't have similar projectile capabilities which players can learn and exploit. If aiming a flare was as difficult as you claim, nobody would ever land DH airshots.
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>>384133596
>scout
>demo
>strong only half the time
t. pubshitter
>>
>it's American power hour and I'm trying to explain the most basic logical concepts to people with burgers for brains

Fuck this shit I'm going to sleep
>>384156103
you are the pubshitter seeing as you don't know basic fucking facts about 6s you disgusting cretin.
a scout frequently gets switched off for Engineers, Heavies, Spies, Pyros or Snipers while holding lasts, mongoloid.
demo is widely considered the weakest 6s class.
If you had played a single fucking game in your life you would know.

I would bet money, considering it's American power hour, that you're a dumb fucking nigger.
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