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Are There Any Good New MMOs

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Is the genre dead? Has anything new come out that is actually good or are WOW,ESO, FFXIV still the best options?
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>>384061086
Yes.
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>Maplestory 2 is never ever in west
>Nexon will kill Moonlight Blade in west
>Petria Chronicles is never ever even in Korea
>there us no cute MMO with cute girls and pointless shit to do (grinding, housing, dressing up, gear collecting, etc) to play right now
Yes, the genre is dead.
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>>384064319
>>Maplestory 2 is never ever in west
I wish someone would make more webm of her or her sister
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MMOs are dead, mobages are the future.
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>>384064845
post more of this lewd rabbit
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>>384067102
There's none Anon
And it's killing me ;_;
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>>384066653
>mobages are the future.
WW3 when?
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>>384067146
WHY MUST YOU FAIL ME
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>>384067236
Well it's not my fault if you can't read.
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>>384061086
I'll stick to TERA thanks. MMOs are all about grind anyway, I'll take dressing up lolis with that.
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>>384067387
Does Tera still run like shit?
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>>384064319
>there us no cute MMO with cute girls and pointless shit to do (grinding, housing, dressing up, gear collecting, etc) to play right now

Literally FFXIV
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Mmo are dead because they're community and forum based and people nowadays can't do without vocal
>>384063541
Dofus was great but went downhill,
Wakfu was great but went downhill,
Arena would have been a great solo game with optionnal online,
Fly'n was awesome,
Slage would have been fantastic,
Krosmaga is nice enough and Krosmaster is a better board game than videogame, I don't know what you need anon to be optimist
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>>384066653
Worst timeline.
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>>384067531
Did it ever? I don't remember there being a time it ran terribly but last I checked its fine nowadays.
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>>384064319
Literally FFXIV
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>>384067646
Every time i played tera, it would go from a smooth 60 to a struggling 24ish frames after like 1-2 hours forcing me to restart the game
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>>384067535
>>384067941

This.
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>>384067990
Sounds like a memory leak, considering I'm running it on 4GB of RAM, it's probably fixed by now. Don't quote me on that though.
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>>384068238
Those glasses do not go well with your outfit
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please tell me any mmo that's even remotely fun i am desperate
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>Most KR games are really made well and looks better than any other western MMO
>is extremly fun in the beta/alpha and everyone loves it
>a bit later the game goes fully p2w
>turns out the publishers don't give a shit and don't even communicate with the western playerbase
>games just turns shittier and shittier with each patch, going the wrong direction
Archeage and Blackdesert were one of the most fun MMO's I've played at the start. But as time goes it turns shittier and shittier.
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>>384068303

TERA's main issue with me was that it was just too much. The slutty outfits were beyond slutty, the cute outfits were just a bit too poofy and frilly and the animations were exaggerated to such degrees. There needs to be a bit of subtlety at times.

Glad to see people enjoying it, though.
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>>384066653
Imagine a world this shitty.
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>>384068385

It's actually the level 54 Casting set. Just made it today to level RDM some.
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>>384068594
Honestly, the best part of the game for me is taking screenshots of random places/outfits/etc like this.
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>>384068557
>Black desert

I literally, LITERALLY played that game for 20 minutes max.

>Press buttons
>SUPER ULTRA MEGA FLASHY pointless move
>unlock moar EPIC SKILLS, YEAH

There's no thought
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>>384064319
Sounds like Black Desert is the game you're looking for.
>best combat
>best grinding
>best housing
>best jobs
>A E S T H E T I C clothing options
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>>384068726
Nice, keep on grinding, my RDM is almost 68.
RDM is super fun but the leveling grind can burn you out quickly, and after that i have to level up my WAR from 62 to 70 jeez.

I can finally drop DRK to play my true beloved tank. I'm excited for the WAR buffs.
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>>384061086
Action mmos are dead.
Warcraft clones still have FFXIV
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>>384069043
>A E S T H E T I C clothing options
All hidden in the cash shop.
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>>384069179
>BDO dead
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>>384068594
to me the real killer was the combat, I came in expecting something nice for how much people talked and I got Monster Hunter for 5 year-olds.
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>>384069086

Maximizing the Darkest Night makes playing DRK really fun right now.

>Doing Temple of the Fist two nights ago
>New players to it, they're struggling dodging the stuff the final boss does
>Party wide attack is coming in
>Healer is pretty low
>Darkest Night them
>They survive in the triple digits
>I have another Bloodspiller to smack Kung Fu Santa with
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>>384069350
You can also buy them with silver through the marketplace.
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>>384069547
I wish I hadn't used my jump potion on WHM so I could get a DRK to 60 instantly...

Leveling is by far the worst part of this shitty game
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>>384069547

Fuck, I meant "Blackest Night".

Same thing, I guess.
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>>384069547
Well yeah, its like the only fun factor dark knight has, besides that DRK is just a designated 1-2-3 combo dark art spam, i miss my oGCD potency stuns and dots
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To this day I still cant remember the name of a free MMO, does one of the earliest zones being a very long beach ring a bell? besides that there seemed to be very high lvl people flying around in brooms and nuking the shit out of mobs
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>level job solely for glamour
>cant play it properly before or after expac
same with nin and fuck east coast latency
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>>384069936
>besides that DRK is just a designated 1-2-3 combo dark art spam
that's how literally all tanks play

PLD breaks it up now with holy spirit spam every minute I guess, but still
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>>384070031
How much ping? They fucked me over but i can play just fine with 300ms
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>>384069705
I wasted my potion on a dragoon :(
Just started the game recently and wanted to get to where other people were at.
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>>384067535
>>384067941
I already play XIV (since 2.4 or so). I really love it, but I don't want to play it anymore, at least for a long time. I don't play it as much as I used to (plus FC is kill and party finder is pure cancer, and the main reason why I want to quit), so the P2P model is becoming a bit annoying to my wallet.
Plus these new games have cuter girls, even though I will probably never get a chance to play them.

>>384069043
Gender-locked classes is a deal breaker. I also hear things about AFK grinding and I'm not a big fan of that.
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>>384070031
damn anon that looks amazing

almost didn't recognize it as ff14
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>>384070181
>I wasted my potion on a dragoon
my condolences

worst class at the moment for sure. At least MCH looks kinda cool
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>>384070116
Well,back in 3.0 WAR used to switch between 1 2 3 to 1 2 4 path/eye fracture then IB/Cleave, activate the deflect thing with awareness, stance dance even if you were main tank and rushing the zerk combo was fun
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>>384070181
>>384070317
Enjoy your support DPS anon!
- Yoshida
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Is there any current big "crafter" MMO?
I always loved crafting but a lot of them make it so bare bones that its just disappointing.

Seriously, why is it so hard to create a good extensive system? Its a pain to see it only in isekai
and speaking of that exact problem, "monster evolution" MMO, when?
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>>384069086
>Level DRK for the story alone
>Tanking for the first time in XIV since starting in 2.2
>Actually enjoying DRK
Even if it'll never turn me away from healing.
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>>384070628
FFXIV has currently the best crafting system with skills rotation and all, you actually feel like you're making something.
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>>384070147
"just fine"
You probably clip every ogcd.
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>>384070664
DRK story till 50 was amazing.
I used to play DRK as offtank since the rotation was easy and i didn't had to fail my triple fell cleave because of dodging mechanics. It's solid yes, but not as fun as WAR. I miss how DRK and WAR were the best tanking buddies tho.

WAR>DRK>>>>>>>>>>Palacuck
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>>384070026
flyff?
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I miss Tanaka.
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>>384070628
>>384070730

FFXIV's Crafting is pretty good but it suffers from two problems:

1) To really see any true success you need to level ALL the crafting classes. That can be an overwhelming task.
2) Gear progression for crafters is wonky as fuck. The difference in stats between a pair of item level 190 crafting earrings from 60 and item level 290 crafting earrings at level 70? 7 Craftsmanship points. When you'll have over 1200 at that point. I will admit that the 190 earrings were basically the end game earrings of Heavensward crafting and the 290 are fresh level 70 stuff but... it still feels odd.
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>>384070809
>Oh no, i'm missing 150 DPS because of the clipping!

I'm still first-second in my groups parse so i dont care
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>>384070317
>>384070571
RIP maybe ill just switch to samurai
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>>384071202
>Best DPS with 0 utility

Well, yeah you should, who wouldnt like big dick crits and dps in general, poor castrated dragoons.
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>>384064319
will moonlight blade really be published by nexon?
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>after all these years we still have no ass slider

Would it even be a lot of work for them? Up to this day I have no idea why they reduces cat asses from 1.0.
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>>384071501
they mentioned it several times
its to make gear fit between all races properly
And they thought about increasing butt size but at the cost of stretched textures
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Which MMO is good for someone who will likely spend most if not all time playing alone?
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>>384069636

through the RNG market place
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>>384071742
Okay, its due to SE laziness, got it.
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>>384070990
>fly for fun
actually very likely to be this one. How did I forget that name.
Thanks a lot.

and now that I realize how long ago it was I feel old, also surprised the game still exists
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>>384064319
Even with Nexon bullshit, I'm still hyped for Moonlight Blade.
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>>384071941
All I ever seen of this game is neat emotes, no gameplay whatsoever.
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>>384071742
>And they thought about increasing butt size but at the cost of stretched textures
But a tit slider is ok even though it does the exact same thing

>ishgard instance vs raubahn
>play as max bust fem highlander
>put on that shitty ishgard armor
>chest sticks way the fuck out, has its own gaudy texture and gainaxes like crazy when my gordian chest has none

Who the hell do these japs think they're fooling?
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>>384071784
SWTOR
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>Start FFXIV
>5 hours in and all I've done is fetch quest after fetch quest along with spamming the same two skills

I just gave up.Why bother making a 100h+ if the beggining is horrendous. Do I really need 5 hours+ to understand how to click one icon after the other ?
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>>384072123
Any others? I hate Star Wars.
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>>384071941
>we will never have such emotes in XIV because of lalashits needing special interactions with everything
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>>384061086
Just play the classic Vindictusâ„¢
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>>384072176
Judging by how many people who arr at mac level in XIV and still have no goddamn idea how to play, apparently yes.
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>>384072024
There are some gameplay videos on youtube.
https://youtu.be/XUboi_OSk-Y
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>>384071941
>We want the pedo audience.
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>>384072314
Is it toaster friendly ? I also heard it's extremly grindy. What do you need to grind exactly ?
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>>384072384
Oh it's just Blade & Soul 2.0.
Those kind of game always require low ping, and it works in Korea since it's fairly small but in murrica it will be shit.
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>>384072524
Yes and you mostly grind monster parts like Monster Hunter
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I played a bit of FFXIV a while ago but I don't remember much. The only MMO I really played was WoW. I want to get back into it, and I want to tank eventually but I want to DPS until I learn the game/content. Is there a class that I can level that does both? In other words do you spec like you do in WoW? I've never really played FF either so I don't understand jobs.
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>>384072751
Why not then ? I'll give it a go.
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The Secret World just went F2P with Secret World Legends.
You get all the content free, and the Cash Shop is basically Pay2GoFast.
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>>384070202
>Gender-locked
Almost ever class has a male/female equivalent. It's really a non-issue especially since it's slightly slanted towards the cute girls side.
>AFK grinding
AFK ginding is an option that you have no reason not to take advantage of but you'll be making most of your progress actively playing the game.
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>>384072752
One character has access to all jobs, you switch between them by switching weapons. I didn't enjoy ff coming from wow because combat felt so slow.
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>>384072751
>underwear is all cashshop
>default underwear is shitty boxers and shirt that clips with literally every piece of armor
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>>384072973
How do you afk grind? Is it basically just a built in bot?
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>>384072639
as long as we can play loli, ping doesn't really matter
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>>384073021
Just use the AP shop bro
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>>384070730
>>384071047
Checked it a bit, might eventually give it a try, thanks.
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>>384072197
Not really
The main point of the MMO is the multiplayer. Story usually takes a backseat to other features.
Maybe you just want some single player games?
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>>384073202
Here you go if you want to see how it goes
https://youtu.be/JNB3TJiFS-U?t=409
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>>384073183
>AP shop
how is it different from cash shop?
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>>384073442
AP is obtained by completing dungeons and is also used to level up your skills, once you max your skills or get them to however high you want you can play dress up.
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>>384071047
Gear progression at the start of an expansion is totally fucked up, but I guess there is no way around it.
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>>384073591
Wait
isnt AP used for leveling up your skills and shit?
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>>384072991
So I should just level a DPS job first then? Yeah I remember it being slower, but I don't feel like I really gave it a chance
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>>384073808
That's what he told you.
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>>384072973
>Almost ever class has a male/female equivalent
Which plays completely different. If you're a man your magic casting options are shitty and boring, for example, while the women get the neat, flashy hybrid looking stuff.
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>>384073093
Workers, for example, can best sent out to gather small amounts of certain materials. You still have to manage their energy levels, but other than that they're out of your hands.
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>>384072314
Didn't this game become garbage? I really liked it on-and-off for the first year or so but I never got past the 30's in leveling.
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>>384073923
Yes
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>>384073628

It wouldn't be so weird if the combat gear suffered from the same situation but I was replacing the best raid gear by level 65 or so while the level 70 Crafting/Gathering is barely a sidegrade to Ironworks.
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>>384073093
you cannot afk grind anything else than certain life skills

most common one are horse leveling and fishing.

for horse leveling you need to make the horse travel a lot of distance so you can set a path on the map that your character will follow back and forth. You can afk while doing this.

While fishing you will automatically reel in when it bite after 2 minutes. Then it automatically cast the line again.

Other automatic stuff are like cooking 9000 of the same thing or cutting 5000000 of the same wood.
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>>384073881
Well im retarded and cant read
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>>384073923
it's always been garbage
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>>384073923
It's really bad now. Like P2W levels of bad.
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>>384073183
>>384073591
I've been thinking about picking up again and this sealed the deal. Thanks, Anon.
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>>384074213
picking it up*
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>>384061086
ESO is the best that exists right now
It wasn't like that and won't be in the future, but now it's the best option
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>>384074205
What's wrong with it ?
I think I'll just try to play Frontier.
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>>384074436
eso is fucking trash though
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>>384074609
nah, no argument? option discarded
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>>384073373
thanks. I see some comments saying he's doing some shit wrong, but honestly I dont mind cause I dont like to take too much info from these besides some basic ideas.
Learning by yourself is half the fun
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>>384074814
It's not even worth arguments.
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>>384073887
>Which plays completely different.
Not really. They're very similar until you get an awakening weapon.
> while the women get the neat, flashy hybrid looking stuff
That anon did specify playing as a cute girls so it's really a nonissue for him. I'm not a big fan of gender locked classes myself but I'm positive they'll bring out a male counterpart for the sorceress eventually.
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>>384075137
Wakfu is superior
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I still have a soft stop for this game.

By all means, its terrible. But somehow i cant hate it. Too bad i got hacked last year and lost about 20k gold (SEA server).

Also the ping was terrible (but still not as terrible as Nexon NA version)
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>>384073973
>>384074205
That's a shame. I loved the combat back when I played it. I also haven't seen Vella in a long time outside of Honey Select.
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>>384075598
Ops, forgot pic, retard me.
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>>384075327
if you're underage maybe
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>>384071941
>Can hold hands with Onee-sama

Downloading now.
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>>384075702
>Glad awakening
too bad they LITERALLY removed all the early game
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>>384075707
ded game m8, only people playing are the ones that don't want to leave their progress behind
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>>384075863
>too bad they LITERALLY removed all the early game
?
As i said, i stopped playing a while ago when i lost all my progress (just as lvl 90 and some new EX skills with charge counters got introduced)

The game did have a shitload of what i call "orphaned content". Many mechanics and even some missions were rendered useless or incompletable / inaccessible because of changes.
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>>384074562
Not the same guy but you have to enchant the shit out of your gear for the latest dungeons and that requires mad amounts of gold,luck, and real money.
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there is any mmo nowdays with good comunnities?
i want to make frends :)
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>>384077442
No, that aspect has gone to shit, nobody gives a fuck and nobody wants to be your friend
I think it's mostly social media's fault, we take strangers online for granted now
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>>384074968
That's a good attitude there, anon. I hope you have fun with the game.
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>>384075327
>>384075137
Wakdofus SOONâ„¢
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>>384077442
any populated mmorpg.
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>>384078441
oh
that'ss shit
i miss old days when ramdom encounters would become good friendships
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What is an mmo without grinding?
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>>384079142
>playing Ragnarok years ago
>going to orc village to grind some of these fuckers
>meet some dude on my way to that area
>we start talking with each other and party up for the grindfest

>playing some modern MMO
>everyone easily solo-killing stuff because parties is a waste of time (people are either ahead or behind of you in the main "kill 10 [mob]" questline)
>if there is something big going on people just spam "LFG" on chat, then disband automatically after the event ends
>use auto-party for instanced dungeon
>dead silence for the whole dungeon run, a "hello" and a "good bye" are more uncommon than rare drops from mobs
MMOs are dead, long live single player grindans with optional co-op
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>>384080917
MMO players are antisocial in real life and in game. Whats new?
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>>384080917
>play "oldschool" MMO's decade ago
>people start flame and harass you because you picked up a quest item close to you
>have to shout for 1h to find members for low levels dungeons, most time people didn't even bother with them because of this
The whole "the community was so much better before" is bullshit, if anything people are more friendly now.
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>>384081213
but it was part of the fun as well
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>tfw friend wanted me to try BDO out with them
>playing the free trial, specs seem like a blatant lie because the game runs like shit
>has the most boring opening hours of an mmo I have ever felt
>meet up with friend
>check my friends lvl
>they are only like 27 yet have hundreds of hours in it
>come to find out they use the game for screenshots and webm's and use the shitty market constantly for outfits
>end up deleting it after 3 hours
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>>384081213
>have to shout for 1h to find members for low levels dungeons

Why didn't you just go in and party up with people already there?
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>>384061086
>Not playing ESO
Shit taste desu
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>>384081213
People are more friendly because everyone is more aware of GMs and their power than before. A simple "gg" on a PvP match may trigger the shit out of some baby and get you a temporary ban.
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>>384081842
You need to really suppress your autism before you lose your friends.
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>>384064319
I mean tree of savior isn't very new but I just started playing it and it's fun so far. It's super cute but it's a shame the dressup game is weak
>>
Caravan Stories will save MMOs.
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>>384082549

No, on the contrary, that guy should drop his shitty "friends" like sacks of potatoes and get some friends who aren't a waste of life.
>>
How is Tera?

How solo friendly is Tera?
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>>384061086
MMOs are gonna have to die completely and stay dead for a while, and then we're gonna have to get lucky and have some idealistic fuck with a ton of funding and a good team resurrect the genre with a great one.
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>>384072384

Holy shit, a MMO that actually lets you be barefoot in 2017?
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>>384083256
Unless you're looking to ERP stay away.
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>>384082806
Hey I just started playing that too. Been pretty disappointed with the outfit/appearance options as well.
>character level 32 and still look like I did at level 1
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>>384083429
Isn't that a common thing in wuxia-themed MMOs?
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>>384083671
>>384082806
I been having an itchy for a diablo clone for a while.
ToS felt a lot like a diablo clone in the first few hours i played it before dropping. Is the end game interesting?
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>>384083987
>asking two people who've stated they've just started playing if the endgame is interesting
Nigga, we don't know.
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>>384082874
I'm actually a bit hyped for Caravan Stories and Alchemia Story. I find the cross-platform option really interesting.
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>>384083671
Didn't you get your job outfit? When you do an advancement they give you a themed outfit. Also if you are on a new account you can get the xp boost chest from an event bulletin board in the main city, along with a cute, oversized T-shirt with some korean on it.
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Has anyone tried Kritika? Came out for the west like a month back, had an ok art style but I didn't play it.
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>>384084643
Nope. I went from Swordsman 1 to Swordsman 2 though instead of changing to a different class immediately. Maybe when I switch over to something else after Swordsman 3, I'll get a different outfit. That or I missed the first circle -> second circle outfit and need to go back to the trainer guy.
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>>384072406

That's every MMO anon. The entire MMO industry literally thrives on the pedo audience, whether it's catgirls, lalafells or elins.
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>>384084802
I only played the mobile version, it's mediocre, but I guess the PC version is different.
Based on the videos, it appears to be like Rusty Hearts, Closers and these poor man's musou clones, but without a flagship feature to make it feel "different".
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>>384071941

Games going to be shallow chink shit and token chinese flight faggotry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqNc13BfnCg
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>>384085762
I try to keep it hidden in the depths of my heart to avoid the usual disappointment associated with these things, but I'm a bit of a fan of wuxia and one-weapon reverse-grip style because they are quite exotic to me, so you are basically shilling this game to me (and you are pretty good at this).
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Just play Jade Dynasty
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>>384069547
Thank fucking god for TBN. I'd literally fall asleep at the keyboard while tanking otherwise. Best new ability they've introduced in ages, I was excited when it was announced and i'm glad it lived up to my expectation.
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>>384069425
its still better than the basic slow combat we still have today with wow and ff14.
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>>384083821

Can you be barefoot in Blade n Soul?
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>>384087121
No which is really stupid.
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Loli simulator
https://youtu.be/xwOjkfMV4hI
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>>384087543

*english release sometime before 2025
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>>384087743
No one will give a shit when it's release just like what happened with BnS.
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>>384087885
BnS missed the boat on west. We got +5 years of nothing after first (and only) hype explosion, so most people completely forgot about it and decided to hype and get disappointed by something else.
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>>384086983
disagree. I feel like its in the worst area of design. I'd rather get either classic MMO combat than this.
the action is just too simple, it feels like Im playing those old toys where you pull a lever and a robot does a punch. Doesnt help that the enemy AI is nearly non-existent and there's not any good hitbox design.
I feel like the action is fake, hope you enjoy it but personally the novelty wore off quite fast, tried to play for a few hours to see if enemies or combat became more complex but it was always so basic I felt like I was playing the first 2 min tutorial of any game with decent combat.
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How's Kritika if anyone is playing that? I mean its another game that took 5 years to come to the west so its outdated as fuck now, but is it any fun?
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Anyone have any input on Revelation Online?

Looks like Aion but not shitty
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>>384088719
It's shit, don't bother.
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>>384089513
Fuck then what's there to play for a mmofag lie me?
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>>384089132
it's shitty and my.com made it as p2w as possible it's beyond dead
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>>384089672
Jade Dynasty
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>>384067531
Yes it still runs like shit, Brawler especially lagged me so fucking hard I had to disable most particle effects. I've never had this problem with any other MMO running at around high but not max settings. Besides that game is great.
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