Evo 2017: Smash 4

>>384018598
previously on dragonball z (it's a reference coney, you won't get it)

When do Ranai and Zero play? Is it next?

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The witch trials went well this year
>>384044216
Villager should do well against Diddy, it's Sheik I'm worried about.

>>384044216
Villager is pure cancer.

>>384044527
zero hasn't played sheik in ages, cloud would be a safer bet

oh boy, can't wait for people to complain about smash "delaying" shit when It's just TOs that are disorganized

GG Top 8 was supposed to start 15 minutes ago

>>384044553
T.Tyroy

ITS NOT A FIGHTING GAME SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>XD

>>384044654
every time

>>384044654
the salt of guilty gear cucks is the most delicious out of any in the fgc

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>>384044616
He played Sheik during momocon, now granted he got raped hard by Fatality. Like really hard

You won't belive how hard he got raped

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>Black Plague
Hell yeah

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>tell my friend he should watch EVO for smash because e loves that shit
>he gets all excited
>tells me he thought I was talking about Project M, not Melee and 4

>projected komo vs dabuz, the winner faces tweek or wrath
Holy fuck, guaranteed cancer on top8

>>384044857
he was on full tilt then, yeah, wouldn't really count that

cloud wasn't out yet when ranai and zero last played and he's stupidly good against villager

Zenyou is the best Mario to watch

>>384044890
>haha people like other things haha xd
nice man

>>384045087
Thinking Project M would be at Evo is retarded though, Nintendo wouldn't allow it.

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>>384044914
>Wrath vs. Komo grand finals to stream on ESPNU and Disney
>it's 120 minutes of two sonics going REEE

LET'S GO ZENYOU!!

Get those sonic nips outta here!

>>384045183
Sonic needs to be removed.

why the fuck are they showing only sonic and bayo matches

>bayo is overrated
>loses to 9b and mistake

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RIP The Dream

ALT STREAM HERE, CURRENTLY CHARLIE V EDGE:
/maxketchum?sr=a

>>384045692
>no team Yummy Pepperoni

>>384045692

>No Yummy Pepperoni on Disney channel

REMOVE BAYO HOLY FUCK

>>384045692
bayo is overrated

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Fataility is out, he lost to 9B

>Sonic and Bayo taking over the streams and winning
>All the hype players getting knocked out

this Evo is depressing me

I like how Komo gets more aggressive as the match pans out

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>>384045692
I'm done.

>>384046106
>top 8 is going to get the most expose the game has ever gotten
>it's going to be sonic, bayo, and dabuz
shut it down

>FOW vs ANTi
Why do they force us to pick

>>384046449
FOW

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I bet there's going to be a bunch of Bayos and Sonics + Zero in top 8.

Best of 3 was a mistake

>>384046449
How else are they gonna give Zero easy matches to grand finals?

>>384046106

Meanwhile Dabuz refuses to die

>>384046727
Why would they want to do that?

>>384046956
Because that's what everyone wants to see :^)

>Taunt

>>384046879
Dabuz is fine as long as he gets rid of komo and zero.

Ixis double eliminates ESAM

OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>384047231

You seriously want to see him popoff on TV?

>>384047428
WHAT A MATCH

>>384047471
I want to see Captainzack do his dances on TV

People who need to go and stay go:

Zero
Komorikiri
Ken
whoever plays Bayo

HAHAHAHA BALD FUCK

Wat's the crowd in the background watching? sounds more interesting than this

>>384047546
What about Dabuz?

>Fidget spinner commercial
Oh Jesus

>>384047546
Don't forget Wrath and Dabuz

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>>384045692
>two bayos prevent fatality and yummy pepperoni from being on disney channel
That's no fun allowed layered on top of no fun allowed jesus fuck

>>384047648
Street Fighter

>>384047626
and all of them are manchild autists

>>384047698
Dabuz is fine lately. I grew out of my Dabuz hate and so could you.

>barely win vs Edge
>wash zinoto

>>384047847
Its not so much Dabuz hate as much as it is Rosa hate

>5 of the 8 winner's matches have a Bayo or a Sonic

Wait they play with 2 stock?

>>384048136
>this is the exhibition
>some of the campiest fuckers too

fuck, i'm mad

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>scar

>>384048370
Yep.
It's fucking stupid. Everyone plays stupid safe as a consequence

Was it S-DI? Ot diddy's upsmash is just that unreliable?

Raito vs KEN plays Zero in quarters
Void vs Mr. R for 13th
Aba and Falln for 25th
Mr.R vs (likely) Tsu for 25th
Anti and Zack for 25th

Why the hell are these two fighting already? They should be taking out the lame players

>>384048996
considering how nairo was ready to react out of it, definitely SDI

>>384045692
>beat the two best Bayonettas in the world last he faced them
>double eliminated by one mid-tier bayo and a literally who bayo who SD'd twice
this wasn't fatality's day

>>384048948

I don't understand this argument. Everybody played safe in brawl too, despite having MK who was a much greater offensive threat than anybody in smash 4

>>384048996
SDI is easier when Diddy's at higher percents (rage influencing the links)

>>384049195
Because god hates Evo

>>384049159
Do you mean Ranai?

>>384049281
Must be the weather and his heart condition.

>>384049398
No, Ranai vs (likely) Zero is semis

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Calm down Larry, save that level of play for Zero.

>>384049321
2 stocks means it's much harder to come back from random KO's. Because your stocks are more valuable, you play more defensively

>over 9000 joke
Good grief

IMT ANTi @ EVO (@Anti)
Lost to Captain Zack 2-1 :/ fuckin witch time. 25th

Holy fuck Larry, slow it down.

>@CaptainZack_
>Beat anti 2-1 off stream. Kinda janky win :(.
He even admits it

>>384049630
this hasn't been true for sm4sh at all though, weird thing to say

there's been campy and aggressive players like always

beast | Mr.R @EVO (@Mr_RSmash)
In typical 9b fashion he SD's game 3 vs WaDi last hit lol

JK beat Locus

>>384050438
Wait so who won, 9b or Wadi?

>>384050438
Fatality died for this.

>>384050860
He did that to himself.

Will is this the tournament to make people realize that Bayo is broken as fuck?

footsies will key for this match up

>>384051446
She isn't

t. previous Bayo main

>>384051446
She's not. There has been enough matches of her losing to prove that.

>>384051446
it's not broken, but now that people actually main her instead of just getting carried, she's forcing a playstyle no one wants to adopt

wtf I love Diddy now

JK > Zinoto

I can't believe I'm rooting for MVD over Aba

>>384052293
Diddy is cancer but I don't want Abadango to win either. Its a conflicting feeling.

>>384051925
Have you ever considered that you're just bad?

>>384051925
>>384052053
>>384052081

I was in the thread last night. Do I have to bust out the data again to prove she's the best character in the game? Don't make me do it.

That being said, I'm honestly starting to tire of this game. And I've been following and playing it since release so that saddens me. Sonic is the worst thing in the game, but between Sonic, Bayonetta, and Diddy Kong I'm just getting fucking bored. Diddy was so hype a year ago but now it's just the same boring dtilt to smash shit over and over again. I don't even mind Rosalina and Cloud. This evo is really sad to me because it's like it's holding me down and forcing me to aknowledge all that's wrong with a game I love.

>>384051925
bayo mains always whine about how unfairly they're treated despite having crazy ass results from the shittiest of players

Wtf that fucking sonic took out my man ESAM, what a shitfest with these Bayos and Sonics

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>>384052554
>tr4shfags finally realizing how utterly shit their game is

Manny > Elegant

>it's literally all Sonics and Bayos

upsets aren't good when they have this as a result

>>384051446
Yes Bayo is broken as fuck, which is why she has won so many tournaments.

>>384052653
Ixis is the #1 player in the UK. He's stupidly good, but as far as I'm aware doesn't travel much

>>384052718
Isn't Melee going on at the moment?

>>384052718
if only you realized Melee is hardly any better, but hey whatever helps you justify Hbox and Armada GF #57

>pocketbayowinslol

>>384052718
>Meleefag will never realize how shitty his game is

Ranai vs. Zero now

EIGHTEEN MONTHS HAVE PASSED

>Losers is almost entirely Sonic and Bayo

No....

Please....

That fucking trade

Shit, is this Loser's?

>>384052718
Stay in your Melee thread, faggot.

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>Tfw I main bayo and root for bayo

>I'm rooting a for a villager over Zero
I want to throw up desu

SNIPED

>that snipe

JK beat Zinoto

Also lets go Ranai

>>384053562
What the fuck is bad about villager

>>384053562
Its a terrible feel but it is what it is.

What a snipe god dammn

>>384053707
Villager is fucking cancer with that fair and bair. F smash is annoying too.

>>384053861
You're implying that Ranai is not a god at this game, his setups are incredible

>>384054103
Ranai is amazing, I still hate the character though.

>>384053861
>hating a good set up trap character

i bet you hated snake too

More like Super Sega Bros, amirite
third parties were a mistake and so was Konami.

Shield is so fucking op.
It makes me mad seeing Zero hold shield while Ranai hacks at it.

FUCK SO CLOSE

FUCK ZERO

Fuck this tournament, I'm out.

>it's a someone chokes against Scarflard episode

Fuck.

GAWD

why

Reminder that Armada called ZeRo THE MOST CLUTCH Smash player

>>384054486
Diddy too good

Fucking hard spikes at 30%

That's just bad game design

Ranai got greedy

Fuck that fat sack of shit. You just fucking KNOW he's going to get a spike or some stupid shit at 40% even when he's down a stock and still win it.

Fuck him

>>384054779
He didn't choke.

Zero just switched gears and went full aggro

FUCk

>>384054849

What do you want the spike to do, NOT spike someone?

Honestly, people need to follow Zero's playstyle and hold your lead as hard as you can

>>384054836
Nah, Ally is objectively more clutch, earning him many tournaments

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>mfw

>>384054975
>30% from a non-heavy

>>384054975
it's villager tho. he's supposed to have good enough recovery

>>384054836
I wouldn't say most clutch but he clutches the hardest. See shit like KEN vs Zero in ARMS saga, KEN was fucking robbed in game 5

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>the city of sm4sh

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>yfw this ends with a Zero vs. Dabuz WFs

He deserved it. Going off stage at 50 just set up the worst case scenario.

>>384055218
>Zero vs Dabuz in Smash 4
>Armada vs Hbox in Melee
Is this Smash Hell?

>>384055060
>Ness
>Marth
>Mario
>Roy
There are more who would've killed there too

Bottom line is Ranai took a risk and Zero capitalised on it by taking a risk too

>>384055317
Yes. Welcome to 666ZZ.

>>384052718
The comment your responding is literally the same problem of melee amplified by 100

>>384054975
That percent is still WAY too early. Villager was in hitstun the entire time

Didy is honestly too good

>Killpower of a heavy
>small size

it;s just plain stupid

>we even get second hand melee shit

>>384055140

He can recover from anywhere besides the blast zone. The whole point of a spike is to shoot someone down into the blast zone so that's what it did.

>>384055469
No it wasn't. Stop making excuses.
He goit daired on the ledge. A big chunk of the cast will confirm kills at 30 there.

>>384055469
>Movement of a flea on steroids

He is too good on the right hands.

On another note, who are the sonic mains worth watching? 6WX? Cuz komorikiri is just desperating and the others just time out bullshit

>>384055469
>Killpower of a heavy
He does not have the killpower of a heavy. He has good set ups for kills but not the power.

>>384055713
Sonic is never worth watching.

Japan gang are doing really bad compared to last year

>>384055469

I feel like to fix Diddy you just have to fix his down tilt. Do that and you probably deny him over half the kills Diddy gets right now for free with a safe, fast, easy down tilt that essentially is just an extension of his upsmash.

Plus, it's not like Zero shit on Ranai. That was an extremely close set. He didn't lose to Diddy, he just got outplayed by Zero.

>>384055713
6WX
Supergirlkels
Kidgoggles

Only good ones imo

>Raito getting fucked by Sonic fagggotry now

It's painful to watch.

>>384055589
I've been spiked at 30 and survived tho.
depends on the rage ofcourse.
i main bayo btw

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How do you guys feel about these stats?

The solution isn't to nerf certain characters, it's to buff the rest.

>>384056116
I hope Tr4sh doesn't become Melee with its character variety

>>384056116
Bayo is at least fun to watch, unlike Diddy and Sonic.

>>384056196
This, but another Bayo nerf is a must.

>>384056116
Nothing, because at most we are only going to get one or two Bayonetta for top 8.
>>384056343
T.shiter

As much as I hate Sonic in this game, I still root for KEN

>>384056116
That's just depressing

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>melee cucks always watching the same 5 characters xD

>>384056116
>lack of character diversity
Are we Melee now?

give larry lurr your power

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>>384056116
>yfw this happened because the recent tier list has pushed Bayonetta to number one
>Despite the fact that nobody has ever won a major with Bayonetta
Captain Falcon has been in more grand finals then Bayonetta.

>>384056343
And Diddy. I don't care if Zero is the only relevant Diddy, I'm sick of seeing him, also, being so good after being nerfed hard TWICE was fundamentally a bad desicion when creating this character

>>384056292
No she isn't. She';s easily more cancerous to watch.

At least with Diddy and Sonic, players can do crazy setups and actually play aggro. Bayo's kit forces her to play one way. No footstals. Just fish for tilts to go into the same upb faggotry

>>384056693
this is retarded, someone last thread even posted stats for bayo to show just how she consistently gets a fuckton of results

just because the creme de la creme doesn't play her doesn't mean she's not number one

Oh goody, time for the most cancerous Sonic of them all!

>This bayo and sonic infestation is so bad that even fucking cloud is refreshing

Holy SHIT

>>384056693
Yeah I'm sure every bayo there picked her up in a couple days ago.

>>384056737
Oh yes because spinning and throwing bananas is so much better.

>>384056824
You can't claim to be the best if you don't take home the gold.

>>384056717
This.
Maybe Rosalina too.

>ranai against mewtwo

he never wins against mewtwo, ever

>>384056889
Sonic's spring setups and footstall dair combos are awesome.

Diddy's that go in are fun to watch. The only problem is the top Sonics and Diddys play super camply. MVD is alright at least.

>>384057034
Diddy isn't the best in the game either, his tier placement would drop like crazy if Zero didn't play him

>>384056693

That's not true. I showed you guys the God damn statistics yesterday. Bayonetta has the best results of any character right now. This is all tracked and quantified on smashboards. Just because you're not paying attention doesn't mean Bayonetta isn't making waves around the world. Look it up and stop spreading misinformation. I'll even help you find the data.

Look at the backroom tier list V3 thread on smashboards it's about 150 pages long right now I believe. Das Koopa keeps track of the scores of every tournament going on around the world, they are all kept in a spreadsheet and weighted. Look this up nigger. Stop saying Bayonetta has poor results. I'm tired of uninformed people spouting this misinformation because 50 people will read this thread and believe you if I don't challenge this.

>>384057295
I know but I still don't agree with the result.

>>384057184
>>384057034

Just for you guys I'm going to have to go digging through smashboards again. There is in fact a results based tier list that specifically does NOT count the results of every character's best player. For example it takes into account all of Didn't wins not counting when Zero is using him. It may take me a bit to find it but I will post it here.

Also it's less about Bayonetta winning everything and more about the fact that more and more tournaments are having 2-3 Bayonettas in the top 8 in every region around the world. You're vastly oversimplifying things if you ignore that trend.

>>384057405

You can't choose to disagree with data.

>tweek sds
>another fucking wrath match

FUCK OFF

>>384057709
Bah hambug, get good is all I so against that. Have a pocket Olimar or Link if you want to deal with Bayo

>>384057709
>more and more tournaments are having 2-3 Bayonettas in the top 8
true, most big name tournaments that have only 1 bayo lately is because Salem or Zack had to eliminate the other

EAT SHIT WRATJ

>>384057903
Say what booooy?

>That pop off from tweek
My feelings exactly

thank god

thank god

Time for Coney to drop some guessies and huggies on commentary

Raito is out, losing to Abadango

>>384058710
I'll guess, Abadango went bayo

I love Smash 4 but this has been a pretty disappointing tournament from a spectator's point of view. Bayo and Sonic everywhere, most of the upset were off stream, Ranai was playing so well against ZeRo but then just choked. The most fun/interesting top tiers (Mario and Sheik) nowhere to be seen.

Rooting for either Larry or Nairo (or False/NAKAT but those seem like long shots) to take the tournament, but I honestly don't care as long as it isn't a fucking Bayonetta.

>>384058871
No let Bayonetta take it, then perhaps there is some claims to her being the best in the game.

Aaaaaand Ranai is out
fuck mewtwo

>>384058871
top 8 is potentially very good, bayos are forced to take each other out

but yes this top whatever this was wasn't very good at all, which is frustrating because there were so many upsets (only for those upsets to be some shitty bayo)

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>He plays any DLC(-Ryu), Any FE character,The Mario bros, Rosa, Bowser, Dk, Diddy Or Shiek

>>384044216
Why are there so many trannies at this fucking event?

GO KOMO

>>384059067
The trouble is that this is the top 8 that gets broadcast on national TV, compared to a super hype top 8 like Frostbite or GENESIS 4

>>384059145
who's this nigga and why is he being constantly posted in these kind of threads

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>>384059145
Fuck you, Robin is great.

>>384059204
There are two.

>>384059145
The fuck do you have against Luigi, Roy, or Lucas?

>>384059204

Because the Smash scene is littered with mentally unhinged autists. Trannies and furries specifically.

>>384057956

Olimar vs Bayonetta is terrible. She can witch time for free if she has any Pikmin stuck to her so Olimars Pikmin Toss is just a non factor. His low air speed and floaty nature makes it a bitch to land against her and having no hitbox on your recovery means it's easy for her to gimo you.

Source: I main Olimar.

Alright guys, I found what I was looking for. Pic related is a tier list purely based on results DROPPING the best player of every character. This information is about a month old and Bayonetta has been on the rise since then, if this was up to date she would be in the #1 spot. Also, without Zero, Diddy isn't even top 3.

Source: https://smashboards.com/threads/4br-tier-list-v3-competitive-insight-analysis.445990/page-114

Here is where character results from tournaments all over the world are kept track of. Bayonetta is #1 here. This is up to date.

Source: https://smashboards.com/threads/tournament-placing-database-scoring-project.437773/

Second day in a row I have had to fight this misinformation about Bayonetta being overrated. If I need to do this again tomorrow I will.

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>>384059271
>Checkmate jank
>projectile spam

Sorry ass scrub

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>>384059269
Black DSP, you can safely ignore any posts involving him. It's a meme that should not exist

>>384059530
>Unironically hates Robin
Holy shit get good

>>384059408
I prefer furries to trannies desu

>Root for komo
Get cancerous campy Sonic
>Root for meme master Dabuz
>Get cancerous boring jank Rosaluma

>Hardchoice.jpg

>>384059441
Abuse witch time and it will only become worse with each time. Bayonetta dosen't have speed needed to outrun Olimar so he can easily wall her out

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>>384059530
Eat shit, scrub.

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>>384059604
Dabuz is /ourguy/

>>384059991
NO HE'S NOT FUCK OFF

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>>384059015
fuck me

>>384059530

THIS IS A FUCKING VIDEO

False sneaking his way into top 8. Might actually happen if some shit goes down.

>>384060397
Dude i love false so much he's /ourguy/

>>384060397
since larry probably wont take it, false will be my only other horse in this race

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>>384059441

I forgot to attach the picture.

>>384059759

Bayonetta is literally faster than Olimar in every single way. On the ground and very especially in the air. Olimar can't wall her out considering she can shoot him with her guns and she is both faster and more mobile than he is with heel slide and dive kick. But here, I'll do some more spoon feeding. Here you can see the movement stats of both characters.

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Bayonetta

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Olimar

Olimar is a solid, viable characters with a lot of strengths and good matchups. Beating Bayonetta is not one of them. Don't grasp at straws and don't spread misinformation.

>>384060581
Nah, Nakat's our boy

>>384060751
>Ness
Nah

>wrath eliminated

thank fucking christ

>>384060751
Fuck nakat's Disney ass

>>384060846
YES GOD

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>NAKAT is in top 16

>>384060846
Based VoiD

Damn, dabuz won cloud rosa again? We need to find another way to stop him

>>384060708
Then play another projectile based character that can easily wall her out.

>>384060708
Wheres darkpit?(Yes they are seperate characters)

>>384061080
Leo's Cloud still shits on Dabuz, as does Nairo's ZSS

>>384060846
JK killed Manny too

Sonybros being purged finally

>>384061230
Pit and Dark Pit are literally the same function.

Just like Marth and Lucina

>>384060708
Mario/Diddy/Cloud/Sheik are the hardest matchups for Bayo, all evenish. As a Mario main I can attest that Bayo gets comboed hard but can camp Mario and can punish his pokes with Witch Time.

>>384061273
That's true, but he only faces nairo on WFs, tweek got to do some magic

>>384061331
Different properties, different characters, fuck off

is there a Smash scene where the players don't smell like unwashed ass?

is there any chance of Nintendo announcing Smash 4 for Switch tomorrow during top 8?

>>384061541
>is there any chance of Nintendo announcing Smash 4 for Switch tomorrow during top 8?
Never ever. You wait for 5.

>>384061507
Same functions.

>>384061541
Smash 64

>>384061331

Dark pit and Pit only have three different moves and the function between those moves is negligible. They are in essence the same character.

Marth and lucina is different because Marth is an objectively better version of Lucina qhwn played to his full potential

FUCKING CONEY, YOU JINXED IT!

Bayos are the cancer of the top 8

Bayonetta and ZSS is so fucking campy and lame with the freest combo's in any smash game causing the opponent to have to think 15 times before they approach while they are running. The game would be soo much better without them.

>>384061659
>>384061728
Different properties

>>384061927
>ZSS
>campy

nigger what?

>>384061807
I legit think bayo should be banned. She purges the top 64-top 16 of variety in characters. Only the absolute top seem to be able to kill her

>Mistake vs Lima in losers
>Salem would have fought CaptainZack if he lost to Nakat
>whoever wins that exchange goes against JK

even the TO's want the Bayos out

This should be the grand finals

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>>384061128

>Easily wall her out

If that was a thing, don't you think people would be doing it? I literally handed you the resource to look at tournament results worldwide. She's voted as the best character in the game by all the top players who voted in both this tier list,

https://smashboards.com/threads/4br-tier-list-v3-competitive-insight-analysis.445990/

And this tier list

https://panda.gg/blogs/smash-bros/pgrv3-character-tier-list-1

Are you saying both the results are wrong, and the top players are wrong? Well, let's hear from a top Bayonetta player. Oh, apparently she can just kill anyone with fair if done right, sdi isn't an issue, and the only reason it isn't happening is because Bayonetta players haven't mastered it yet.. hmm...

At some point you just need to admit you're wrong. I'm backing up everything I'm saying here and you're just giving me weak bullshit like "just counter pick her bro lol".

>>384061541
Based NintenDont
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlyIvfy07oU

>Larry vs Nairo

I want either to win god damn it

...At this point, I'm fine with ZSS taking EVO, It would actually be kinda neat with Samus Returns coming soon.

Just, no more Bayos.

>>384062074
Thank God.

Though it might get harder now that Ally and Leo are picking her up. You think even ZeRo will succumb to $5.99?

>>384062301
>Ally and Leo are picking her up
excuse me? explain yourself

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larry will save us
>>384062143
>don't you think people would be doing it?
No because people are fucking lazy and would rather cry nerfs then to put in some work.

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Gotta bunch of people that got animosity towards bayo players cause their results are better than theirs. These are guys that are jealous, cause they don't carry, they don't possess, BBH (Big Bayonetta Hitbox). They don't possess that GOD FRAME DATA that's involved in these bayo players out here.
Keep getting jealous while your main asks for BUFFS. While your secondary ask for BUFFS and WISH that they could get HIT by these Bayonetta warriors with these huge BBHs that could combo them to the point where they could FEEL each and every last spectacle of their hurtboxes getting HIT DETECTED and ACTIVATED until the hitstun just SPEWS out. Keep saying DISHONEST, keep saying OVERPOWERED.
Come on you SCRUBS! You love it! You love this shit! I’ll be that player. I’ll be that player. Yup, with a BBH. Enjoy it. Have your main takes this witch time. He/she’s imagining a HUGE Bayonetta Hitbox. Why do you think your favourite characters get huge hitboxes!?
You guys don’t possess the BBH. That’s why you’re upset. No BBH equals anger. You’re upset, you’re mad at these Bayonetta Hitboxes. These Ladder Combos. That’s why you guys like saying carried so much. I get it.

>>384062398
Check their Twitters

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>>384062546
nice

>>384062143
Top players always likes to downplay how good their main is.

>>384062442
He knocked Locus into losers. He owes us some dead bayos

>>384062474

>Everyone and everything says one thing but I, random Anon on /v/, am an expert on the subject and it's all wrong because I said so. Nobody else in any region has figured out the secret besides me.

Go fuck yourself. I gave you literally every resource I could so you could be educated and you refuse all of it. Nobody mentioned nerfs either.

LETS GO LARRY

zerowinslol

Hey just realized, who eliminated Leo?

I would hate having to root for a Sonic but Zero needs to sit down

>>384062725
Yet Salem isn't. That says something. Even he will admit Bayo is fucking bullshit.
No tech skill needed, yet she still murders

>>384063124
some peach from florida. i think 16 y/o

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>>384062915
And I told you from the very start I'm not seeing the result to claim that Bayo is the best. The people who did this list downright said that they diden't count Zero's result, so it's a incomplete list. The data is incomplete, it does not match up. If you got the best then you should win a lot more.

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FUCK DISNEY

>>384063361

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD

>>384063419
There's like four more humble yourself lol

>>384063361
Please let that not be true

>>384061984
Are you retarded, ZSS gameplay is just throwing out safe hitboxes that beats everything until your opponent sheilds and she slides across the stage and grab or you get hit. She feels like a videogame boss mre than a character a human plays. Nairo sucks

>>384062442
what's going on with Mistake/Lima, it's been nearly half an hour and they're still 0-0?

>Game so fucking boring commentators would rather talk about the stage background

>>384063537
match probably didn't actually start

>>384063537
Lima won.

>>384063569
it's fucking zero vs sonic

this is boring but i still want ken to win

>kissy combo

What time are finals at? Tournament sounds bad, but I'll watch it anyways

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>>384064395

Why does this fag popoff constantly. It was a won match, not even close.

>>384064395
there's quite a few fun players still in, bayos getting wrecked

>>384064462
he can't get out of his chair without major appliance of force

>>384064462
he also gets his personal coach on every single loss

>According to the brackets, if Dabuz makes it into Top 8 winners, he'll have to face ZeRo

Good. At least that way we know only one of the players in WFs will be cancerous.

>>384065046
FUCK

>>384063295

Here's a five month old video in which Zero calls Bayonetta the best character in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWG7W5tUapw

Here is him doubling down on that opinion 3 weeks ago, I'll link you to the exact time in the video where he says she is in the #1 spot.

https://youtu.be/OB21P2adOEw?t=26m31s

If you think the data is complete, you literally didn't open this link. It compiles data from around the world continuously, they explain their exact scoring process. You can see the results for yourself. I'm not replying to you anymore. For you to continuously ignore my sourced evidence by just saying "nah" I just feel like you're trolling at this point. Regardless of how you feel though, I know plenty of other anons were helped by everything I put in this thread. So I feel good about it anyways.

https://smashboards.com/threads/tournament-placing-database-scoring-project.437773/

Dabuz always looks like he just shit his pants.

>>384064991
>only one
>salem

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Even if Zero wins tourneys I can't help but watch more tourneys even if I'll just get disappointed in the end. They're just hard to avoid.

SAVE US TWEEK, I DON'T EVEN CARE IF IT'S CLOUD AT THIS POINT

JUST STOP DABUZ

>>384065046
bayonetta was a mistake

>>384065424
tweek has never won against dabuz

>>384065408
eh, there's always some fun matches in there and there's quite a few fun top players

i don't mind, the shade of someone being able to kill zero is always fun, and now with coaching killed it might even be better

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>>384064462
I will never understand the american popoff hate. Popoffs or celebrations are thing in a ton of sports and seeing people create their own style of them is fun.

>>384065586
They killed coaching?

Dabuz's road since pools
>cloud
>cloud
>zero will likely use cloud if dabuz wins
Totally balanced, guys.

>>384065643
Popoffs are good when it was close and intense match. Popoffs are worthless and shit when people do it right after a won match that wasn't even close.
It lessens the value of popoffs and most do it for memes or other dumb shit.

>>384065309
Look I'm a stubborn man and I keep sticking to the
>She isen't the best because she dosen't win
because that's how I see it. Look at Ryu, that's another fantastic character that some people would think is broken. Yet he is last on A tier, why is that? Other then lack of result and struggeling against multihit moves

>>384065672
anything from top 48 onwards banned mid-set coaching, thank god

>>384063530
>ZSS
>safe

o i am laffin

>>384065938
So what, top players get coaching against randoms?
Coaching is dumb as fuck and should be removed completely.

>>384065424
Cloud is infinitely more hype than Bayo, Sonic or Rosa

>>384065938
please tell me this is official and not just evo's custom ruleset

>>384065826
Which is why when Zero does it you're like sit your ass down.

>>384066086
Unless it's komo playing cloud. But he's gone, so there's no point.

Rosa is such a dumb characterrrrrr

>>384066073
yes, it actually probably won Zero Frostbite, against Tsu (he fucking called Pierce over the phone)

>>384066115
it's the recommended ruleset now

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>sd from cloud
gg for dabuz

SENPAI NO

WOOOOO

>>384065502
first time for everything.

LETS GO TWEEK

>>384065502

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HE DID T

TWOOK

SKINNY BITCH ACTUALLY DEFEATED AUTISMO

TWEEK PERFORMED FOR ONCE

>>384066318
TAKE IT BACK

>>384066318
J I N X

YEAH TWINK

He only used limit ONCE.

Tweek is brilliant

Hype top tiers:

Mario
Fox
Sheik
Ryu
ZSS

Fuck the rest.

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>>384066318
nevermind get fucked dabuz. LETS GO!

>>384066441
>>384066454
im so glad

Thank fuck Tweek won

>Tweek going against Zero in top 8
Poor Tweek

>>384066517

I noticed, he started winning when he exchanged limit breaks for the all around buff of a charged limit.

Fucking great.

Tweek went Super Saiyan.

>Dabuzzkill in losers
Thank fucking lord.

>>384066785
>wanting ZeRo to have an even more free bracket

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btfo another bayo please

Is it just the salt clouding my vision, or are Shiek's movements much prettier and smoother than Bayonetta's?

>>384067114
You aren't. Bayo feels clunky as hell.

>>384067114
Yeah, sheik's framedatta is ridiculous, so every input looks super fluid.

JUST

>>384066873
It's Salem. Arguably the best/second best Bayo.
Good fucking luck

Oddshot of the final stock?

Salem is probably the least cancerous Bayo at least

really epic coney

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Which one of you fucks is Nico nii

What worse about Bayonetta, her touch of death combos or her infinite recovery?

Love how Coney is the only one who makes fun of the ads

https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo/status/886383128977129472

>>384067627
Honestly, as a Mario main, I don't mind her combos because I can fuck her just as hard back with one grab. Her movement options are what make her so draining to fight.

>>384067683
.>Easy matches all the way up
>Almost loses in a bunch of them
Yeah I bet he is relieved

>>384067114
Sheik is extremely honest since her nerf, actually very high skill floor and ceiling

>>384067683
Ranai was the only real threat he's faced

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>>384044216
>zero

Wow, nice name on that faggot. never heard it used as a name before.

>>384067627
Infinite recovery, oh and bat within
If you removed those two, she'd still play the same fundamentally, just be a little less of a pain

>>384067862
>those upb recovery frames
>Springy salmon hurtbox
>Pretty much wins neutral for free

Granted, she needs to keep winning neutral to actually kill, but still.