Shock

I got memed into buying the second game. I can't finish it, it's way too dated and boring.

>>384044327
Should have gotten Prey (2017).

the remake is going to be shit isnt it?

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>>384044327

>SS2
>Dated and boring

I know you're baiting, but you could use better shit.

>>384044705
Probably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82TMcwTRfCI

Just got to level 2 on the Citadel, it's a fun game.

I picked up the magnum on level 1 too.

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*Blocks your path*

>tfw poorfag all my life
>now you can easily buy a ps4 or get a decent PC and play modern games, but missed so many old jewels that can't seem to enjoy because you're used to modern graphics.
And not playing on the original hardware feels bad too.

Fucking hell.

SS1 is so fsking good

>>384044128
I've finished SS2 about 5-6 times, is SS1 worth playing? I had a lot of trouble getting into SS2 the first time until I got far enough to get on a roll.

>>384045750

The combat is terrible.

>>384046080
SS1 is the best shock game

>>384046080
Once you get use to the controls it's smooth sailing from there. Yes, it's worth a play.

>>384046080
yes, its better in some ways even, worse in others

>>384046285
>>384046269
GoG version the best I assume? Though I guess LG studios is dead so I should just pirate

>>384044806
Did they cancel this show?

>>384046553
Yeah it has the Enhanced Edition with custom res and wasd controls

Get a soundfont for the game, the midi music is pretty shitty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpxuoTb8-R8

yes i'm shilling my own video please don't hurt me

>>384046556
They cancelled Gen Z

>>384046553
The game was bought by NightDive which are making the System Shock remake. I wouldn't recommend pirating it because they've done very stellar work with older titles on PC like Turok and System Shock 2.

>>384046553
Yeah, the GOG version (Enhanced Edition) has mouse look which really breaths new life into the game.
Also, NightDive Studios bought the rights to System Shock. You should buy it to support them. They're a great company. They're buying up old games and remastering them. They did that with Turok too.

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>>384047079
Oh OK. Good shit. Thanks friends. I'll pick it up next time it's on sale.

>>384046218

you're terrible

>>384044327
>falling for the 'dated' meme

>>384047070
>>384047079
>taking a fan's mod, putting your own logo on it and demanding money for it is now considered 'very stellar work'
I bet you're thankful for GOG's dosbox wrappers, too

>>384048019
I don't use GOG actually.

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who wore it better?

I'm playing the second game for the first time because reasons.

Dumped all my weapon points into lasers, did I goof? The rapier's pretty aight, the pistol's decent and I just picked up an emp rifle though level 6 requirements is fucking astronomically expensive.

>>384048215
emp is kinda crappy, only works on bots

>>384048215
You'll be fine, there's more than enough CM eventually. You may want to branch into another weapon type, or maybe PSI. EMP isn't worth it.
Try to avoid spoilers and further tips though. The game should be beatable with almost any build as long as you're not an idiot.

>>384048215
you can beat the game by using pretty much anything, as long as your good or patient enough.

>>384048214
Citadel

>>384044128
SCAWK

>>384048214
Honestly? A hard choice.
PREY was stellar and the station design was toptier.
System Shock goes for a more Cyberpunk feel, so I'm going to say SS1. PREY beats S2 though.

>>384046847
Mp3 upload when?

>>384044828
the soundtrack being shit doesn't mean the game is. if the entire game is anything like their tiny demo they put out, it should be fan-fucking-tastic.

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>>384048608
most of the advice I've heard is that if you don't put points in the right skills then you can hit a wall and get stuck, but I'm starting to suspect that's because those people were scrubs.

is exotic any good? the ice needle looks cool and I've been putting some points into research.

>>384048936
Exotic is useless. Don't bother with it.

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>>384046218
t.polygon

I've played every Shock game (including Prey) EXCEPT for 1. I have the HD one or whatever on Steam, is it too old? I don't mind old a la Fallout / Deus Ex but TOO old I can't do.

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>>384048750
>prey beats s2
obvious troll is obvious, ttlg absolutely hates prey 2017

>>384048936
The crystal shard is the best melee weapon in the game. People will tell you that all weapon types pale in comparison to standard, and they'll be right, but those people also hate fun.

>>384046640
>caps at 1366x768

has anyone managed to force it higher yet? always crashes whenever I try 1080 or up

>>384049103
fug. Don't give me cool alium weapons and then have them be shit.

>>384048936
I've heard people call the crystal shard a 'win button', but honestly I've tried it once and it was simply a slightly better wrench.

It's very hard to hit a wall, although there are absolutely better and worse ways to play the game. For example, psi invisibility is a literal win button even on the hardest difficulty while specialising in conventional guns can be pretty hard until you get the assault rifle.

>>384046080
Just don't go in expecting an older SS2. SS1 is more of an action-adventure game. There's no RPG elements and there's less emphasis on horror outside the early stages of the game.

>>384049359
I've got it to work 1080p. chugs alot of framerate though

>>384049309
The enhanced edition has improved controls, so you can play it properly now. Worth playing.

>>384049243
lmao

>>384046218

You're playing it wrong, its paced and relies on cover shooting and tactical breaches with some preparation with different ammo types and traps.

>>384049243

Polysexual really has no idea what they are doing.

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>>384049309
>Shock game (including Prey)

First off no, it isn't too old and second

>>384049487
This.

Also may I add that SS remake is gonna be a catastrophe if they make it full-blown horror (which they almost certainly will based on the trailer), horror really doesn't work when almost all your enemies kill you from afar with guns, you need mostly melee enemies and up-close combat like in SS2.

>>384049309
Anon's axiom states that if you're worried a game is too old for you, then it is.

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>TFW all these nades,mines n hardware

>>384049347
Why do they hate it? It's SS2, but better.

>>384049884
They don't, that anon was bullshitting. GenGaming loves it.

>>384044705
Same people that remastered the Tyrol games for steam so it has some good hope to it

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>>384049347
Too bad Prey is fucking fantastic.

>>384049884
For me Prey was an emulation of SS2, it had the heart, but it didn't have the soul. It felt boring and I didn't feel like there was a real risk in what I was doing. It was more like Bioshock than System Shock

>>384045693
*teleports behind you*
Heh. What makes you think a low level life form like you is worthy of touching me!
*unsheaths laser rapier*
Now face my ultimate move. DANCE OF A THOUSAND BLADES!
*stops time and cuts you at the speed of light*
Heh nothing personnel kid

>>384050174
Actually, you know, I'll concede that.
Mechanically, it does feel more like a BioShock. It's better than BioShock, but lacks the complexity for it to be a System Shock game, I think.

Prey would've been straight 10/10 if they increased to neuromods price threefold, or better yet, made them non-craftable. As it is, the game's economy is now all fucked up, because they're the best use of your resources and you can easily max your character around 70% through the game.
i haven't played it yet, these are just my impressions based on what other people are saying about it

What class is best for a first time play through of SS2 and is it true that you it becomes impossible to beat the game if you don't have a certain stat leveled high enough?

>>384051520
>soldier
>technically yes but you can use an item that's easy enough to stockpile to pass the skill check to beat the game

>>384044128
one of my favorite games of all time. I replay it like once a year. More games need to take lessons on how to do exploration-based gameplay from it.

>>384051696
Thanks, also are the controls in this game a bit more intuitive than the first one? I really enjoyed it but the controls never really felt natural to me.

>>384052064
yeah, standard WASD is fine and smooth for shock 2, jumping is still a bit wonky but eventually you get a feel for moving back and forth in the right rhythm to fight in melee without getting hit

>>384049580
>>384049243
It's because they try to play these games with controllers.

>tfw too poor to afford VR
>tfw too poor to afford a new GPU to play in VR

Will System Shock remake support VR? I can't imagine how great it would be to go through cyberspace.

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>*blocks your path*

>>384053049
*scarfs u down*
mmm-mmm

>>384052742

Hitler was going after the wrong people.

>>384053049
>>384053313

>Throw it into beaker,
>Feed useless ammo into recycler.

>>384044128
Is Dead Space a spiritual successor?

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Your memos are never good

>>384054694
iirc Dead Space started life at EA as SS3 until the redwoodshores guys got to make it original

>>384054861
Thank god. I like Dead Space but it would have been a shitty SS sequel.

>>384054720
you memo de nemo

>>384054694
hell no

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>>384044128
thumbnail looked like two anime girls standing both sides of a human sized benis to me

Where do these threads even come from? Everyone knows the average age of /v/ in 2017 is 14, I highly doubt anyone here has played SS1, which came out before you were all born.

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>>384044327

>>384050706
Prey wasn't better than BioShock, fuck off.

>>384057163
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

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>>384057163

>>384057273
TTLG, the biggest system shock fans in the entire world, hate it. if the #1 rabid fans don't like your product, you've clearly fucked up. same thing with NMA shitting on all fallouts past 1 and 2.

>>384044128
i despised how SS2 turned into a shitty rpg with a shitty leveling system.

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>TFW first encounter and no AP ammo/rapier

>>384057163

Maybe not in terms of art and creativity, but the game certainly played better and I missed an inventory something fierce.

I'd say, yeah it was better than bioshock.

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>>384057728

>>384057769

>Shoot 4 shots of mag pulse and move on.

>>384057541
TTLG is not a single person, Prey is a first person RPG with shooting elements to it like System Shock was whereas BioShock was a first person shooter with RPG elements tacked onto it.

Arkane are really the only studio who have stuck with the same design ethos that Ion Storm and Looking Glass Studios adhered to, in fact many ex-Looking Glass staff work at Arkane.

>>384046472
it's better in every way except the controls.

>>384057946
>TTLG is not a single person
no, it's an entire forum full of people who think prey is a shitty cashgrab that randomly threw in system shock elements like a recycler without actually trying to make a system shock game at all, and it's obvious that Arkane has never played SS1 or SS2 in any capacity.

>>384057789
Gameplay was worse, upgrades were for the most part worse, inventory system was good.

Must go now Anonymongs.

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>>384058025
>People who worked on SS1 and SS2 have never played it

>>384049309
>i've played every Shock game (including Prey) EXCEPT for the best one and only true Shock game.

>>384056168
I've seen SS1 discussed more in the past 3 or so years than I had in the decade before then

>>384057919
Eh never used Mag cause im autistic n i tried to save strong weapons for later use n then forgot about them


Just spammed Skorpion

>>384058025
No, TTLG largely loves Prey. They've gone kinda soft since the days of Deadly Shadows remember that even Thief 2 was criticized on TTLG in the early 2000s. Most people over there like the new Dude Sex games, too. The overall opinion on Bioshock was positive. I wasn't around for Infinite though.
Except for Thiaf. Nobody liked that turd.
Also except for ZylonBane. That guy hates everything. If SS2 came out today, he'd probably hate it, too.

People jerk it over SS2 because they grew up on it.

Repair system is a chore. The intro tutorial is needlessly opaque -- you're setting up character stats without any meaningful understanding of the consequences of your decision. The graphics are exceptionally dated. Audiologs are a tired medium of narrative delivery in 2017. Combat is inherently RPG-esque, which is to say that it's mechanically unsatisfying. The game really loses steam at the end.

I anticipate that people will bemoan a lack of complexity in future titles or whatever, but I'll take that if it means I don't have to wander around "generic space corridor #24" or visit a shadowed loading bay for the third time in a playthrough.

>>384057875
anyone who knows his games knows that SS1 is the superior one, smooth, pure, uncorrupted by rpg retardation.

>>384058095

>Gameplay was worse,

Bioshock was literally unlock camo and dump strongest ammo on head. Freeze enemy and repeat.

In Prey you basically had to ambush the enemy, there was a stealth system, there was lots of preparation involved.

You're mainly just angry because they didn't dump access to all the guns and let you do everything.

>>384057541
I just checked their forums to see if this was true and there's not a single person who says he hated after release. Literally everything in the prey thread is talking about how much they love it.

>>384059636
I agree entirely, but that doesn't mean SS2 is in any way a shitty game, just like how Doom 2 being better than Doom 1 doesn't automatically make Doom 1 shitty; they are both outstanding games.

>>384060018
you're right, looks like the mods are censoring any negative discussion about it, RIP TTLG. I knew I should have screenshotted that TTLG prey bashing thread when there were 50 daily prey threads on /v/. Now you will call me a liar with no source, and the conversation will die.

>>384060405
Can you find it on archive.org?

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>>384060405

>>384060405

nice revisionism.

>>384060405
>Now you will call me a liar with no source, and the conversation will die.


>I've anticipated your completely reasonable criticism of my statement, thereby making it null and void!

is this your first try at rhetoric?

>>384060405
You a bitch-ass nigga
Sit yo ass down

>>384060405

Look I feel bad for Prey 2 fans, but this is a bit much.

Its a good shock game, but not a good prey game.

>>384061352
But Prey was just Doom 3 with a better setting.

>>384061437
Doom 3 was Shock 2 for retards. The just lifted stuff from it wholesale, like the audiologs and the biological infection over everything.

>>384062058
Doom 3 is noting like System Shock other than the 'audio'logs.

>>384049580
>You're playing it wrong, its paced and relies on cover shooting and tactical breaches with some preparation with different ammo types and traps.

system shock 1 makes me wonder what an immersive sim would be like if they threw the rpg shit in the trash and took ideas from a tactical shooter instead

>>384046847
HEAD LIKE A HOLE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m59zi6lYWc

>>384062485

Probably like what the original plan for Aliens: Colonial marines was. Squad uses abilities and tactics to slowly move from deck to deck. Using motion trackers to check rooms for movement before you opened them, reading the holo maps trying to piece together where you are.

Exchanging equipment and ammo for different situations and creating caches.

>>384060262
But Doom 2 is worse than Doom 1.

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>>384064096
could you be any more of an obvious troll? it's doom 1 with more weapons, more enemies, new maps.

>>384063758
i was picturing something like the hideous destructor mod for doom

>>384064196
I'm serious. Doom 2 is still good but Doom 1 is much better
>More weapons
Literally one. A good weapon, but still one.
>More enemies
The new enemies are mediocre at best and fucking annoying at worst.
>New Maps
Worse Maps

>>384065189
I'll grant you the worse maps, but the Mancubus, Revenant, Archviles and Hell Knights are all great enemies. SSG is one of the best weapons in all of gaming. Doom 1 levels feel too basic by comparison, and the new enemies are great for WADs too.

>>384044327
>dated
maybe

>boring
nuh-uh sweetie

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>SS1
I played it with a freiend watching me stream, and giving me advice the whole time. Overall I loved the game, but It would have been rough alone. Been getting the itch to replay it again.
>SS2
Never beat it alone, the plot twist was wasted on me sadly, since I was playing it co-op and didn't really understand what was going on, since my friend loved it and had played it when it came out. We replayed it a few times though, and I came to love it too.
>Bioshock.
Great game, It modernized the series well for the current market, but It lost the depth of ss2. Initially I didn't know this , but got salty after playing ss2.
>Bioshock 2
Bioshock 1 with better game play, shittier story
>Bioshock infinite
Hot garbage, hated the entire game, plot twist in the end felt shitty, and forced, IT could have been so much better.
>Prey 2017
Loved it, I enjoyed the stories, loved the audio logs, Enjoyed the decision making process. Ending was... Weird. But enjoyable, It didn't feel ham fisted like Infinite.