TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

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>PRYO UPDATE
NEVER EVER

>there are people who didnt drop tf2 years ago.

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>>384033514

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>>384033636
>there are people who didnt drop dead years ago

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>1 year since Heavy vs Pyro started
>still jack shit

MR KRABS HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN

POAST LOADOUTS

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>>384034194
373 DAYS
GIVE IT UP FOR 373 DAYS SINCE A MAJOR UPDATE

>>384034865
>>384034194
kek

s. Professional Killstreak Scorch Shot Kit (Villainous Violet / Cerebral Discharge)

Hey guys, remember the Spy vs Engineer update? Remember how it never happened?

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I'm wearing currency and there's shitting fuck that you can do to stop me

>there are people who died waiting for this update

What if afterburn applied marked for death for the duration of the burning?

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People complain about metal inflation but it's not all bad, buying a single key these days gives you enough refined to outfit every class with 3 decent cosmetics and stranges.

>>384036172
afterburn will never, ever, be a threat again

>>384036605
Not unless it somehow debuffs the afflicted person in a way they can't ignore.

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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

i stopped playign this 5 years ago

is it good?

>>384036825
It's the same thing plus a few weapons and minus a few players.

>>384036739
there's still water everywhere and every class has an extinguishing item ready to be deployed the second any remotely competent pyro starts to pose a threat

> tfw 3rd competitive game EVER because takes ages to find so I never bother
> tfw facing an aimbotting sniper who hits you the moment you peek around a corner, so it must be a clickbot too
> even fucks up a guy who tries invis
> literally entire server reports the nigger
> spend 15 minutes holding despite the disadvantage
> lose
> haxxorfag: ggez

What kind of self affirmation do these niggers lack that they go online and ruin other people's experience? Would they enjoy a dedicated cheaters' server?

>valve's matchmaking will gladly put me in a match where my team is losing on last point and getting steamrolled
>but it can't fill a match with only 8 players on it

>>384036352
holy shit, 30.11 Ref for a key?!

i remember it being 1.66, then saying i remember it being 1.66 when it got to 7.66 ref...
crazy

>>384033871
they're probably aiming for the 10th anniversary
note: they will miss and it will be out in December

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>>384036945
Why do they have such a hard on for countering afterburn anyway?

>9 out of 10 of my last games had hackers in them
>5 of those games their teams wouldn't kick them
I fucking hate this community

Stout Shako for 2 that one engineer webm

What could Valve realistically do to fix Heavy?

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>>384047250

>>384033636
>>384033798
>there are people

>>384047398
Give him a rocket launcher.

>>384047792
AAAAAAAAAAA

>>384047398
unfuck his unlocks, toy with revving mechanics a bit if that doesn't cut it
throwvich genocide when

>>384035908
>No collector's weapons
>No strange bird-man of aberdeen
Yeah ok, whatever you say Irish man.

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While the game isn't a complete piece of shit, it has critical balance issues. The game was already wounded and MYM salted it, and it's begun to fester. Hopefully the pyro update (and it won't be named that since there was one in 2008) will turn the game in the right direction and fix:
> shortstop
>pbpp
>bison
>brass beast
point being, everything is out of balance and needs to be reoriented.

>>384036352
Where do people go and trade for keys? I have played for a couple years but never bothered trading.

>>384048640
>While the game isn't a complete piece of shit,
laffin
>it has critical balance issues.
one of many problems, valve are goddamn retards and even stock kits have serious issues

>>384048640
>>384049171
oh and you're also an idiot to think the pyro update will do anything to help

>there are people ITT unironically trying to convince people that this game is shit when it is objectively a masterpiece

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>>384035908
What's the appeal of in-game dress up in a first person shooter? Especially when you basically have to pay for it.

>>384049598
t. investor

>>384033798
>DROP DEAD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3OozAf6y0

>>384049745
autism
rakes in more money than integrity so valve butchered the game for it

>>384048896
scrap.tf is what i use

>>384048896
>trading
congrats on becoming part of the problem

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>>384047398
once the rampup penalty is removed heavy will be in a good spot. the problem with heavy isn't that he's not effective he's just boring as hell to play. he needs new weapons that are actually fun to use and don't suck.

>>384052273
His fundamental mechanics are what's boring. He can't move and shoot at the same time (at least, not to any degree that matters). Most of your time is spent waddling to the spot your team already reached 2 minutes ago without you. Not fun in comparison to Scout or Soldier.

>>384052273
The problem is Heavy by design is not very skillful or "fun".

He is a walking tank that has less movement options than 90% of the classes and their unlocks. The Sandvhich gives him an alternative role that can change up how he plays slightly, but at the end of the day he is still a defence power house who can be effective at pushing if he has healing. I can't think of a way to make him fun in the same way Soldier or even Spy is fun.

>>384052273
>he needs new weapons that are actually fun to use and don't suck.
stock/sandvich/gru is already stupidly fucking good, he only falls out of use because they take all the tactical depth out of the class and he's still too slow for 6s

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>>384049745
Same reason people dress up in physical reality: because they like looking good and like showing off how much cash they can afford to spend on aesthetic shit.

>>384053024
But it's a video game, you don't exactly operate in the same realm of social expectation and hierarchy.

>>384052273
the ramp up could be his saving grace though.
Instead of a ramp up, just make his minigun fire faster over time. That way, the longer you are exposed to a heavy, the more dangerous it becomes.

>>384053385
Heavy doesn't need any sort of nerf regarding his damage output AT ALL. It's already severely limited by range and the heavy's own speed. If you just got fucked by an ambush heavy, it's your own damn fault. Heavy is a weak enough class without such things

UPDATE WHEN

>>384053605
>heavy is weak
not agreeing with the other retard, but what dimension are you living in

>>384054014
The one where players aren't total retards and can play the game properly.

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>>384052273
Would a Super Nailgun type weapon for Heavy be too OP? It's not fair that the Syringe Gun is the only Nailgun in the game. It's a fun weapon.

>>384054173
then account for competent heavies as well
300 base health and a 300+ dps hitscan weapon is not to be taken lightly, even disregarding the rest of the kit and the inevitable medic

>>384053710
TONIGHT

>>384053186
>implying
Fancy hats will get you respected in the match
And maybe 2 or 3 Medics

>>384054907
No matter how competent the Heavy player is, the basic limitations of the class limit his ultimate effectiveness in the fight. Same boat as Pyro. Ask any high level Pyro or Heavy main this, and that's the answer they'd give you. Heavy's existence is invalidated by Sniper. No other class in the game is hard countered as much as this, not even Spy since Spycicle and DR exist. In an organized match where you know that the enemy team is running Sniper, the official heavy strat is "don't move forward until the sniper is dead." Even after this, Heavy is just target practice for Demos to practice pill aiming with and soldiers to practice leading rockets. Both of these classes can launch their projectiles from outside the hyper-lethal zone of Heavy's minigun and because Heavy can't really move while shooting, he can't keep up the offensive while sparing his own life. In terms of being the core element of a push, Demo does everything he does but better. In terms of holding a perimeter, an Engineer's sentry gun has better damage, accuracy, and range, with Heavy only really being superior in the rare case that there's not enough time to build a level 3. He's really only good at denying bombers, but Scout can also do that job too to practically the same effectiveness, and Scout can do way more stuff on top of that too.

Come up with those shitty weapon ideas.

The sapper slapper
>Wrench
>+Destroys sappers in one hit
>+Damages the spy that used the sapper
>- -10% building repair per metal
>No random critical hits

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>>384052579
>I can't think of a way to make him fun in the same way Soldier or even Spy is fun.
I kinda want to see the fat scout loadout get some buffs. Buff his shotguns and move them to his primary slot, buff his base speed when using them.

>>384052825
>stock/sandvich/gru is already stupidly fucking good
Didn't say they weren't effective they're just boring as fuck.

What the fuck is up the new party van? I come back after a week and the password's gone and the server's full of newfags.

>>384055723
What heavy really needs is better mobility (or at least better tools for disengaging from fights), sustainability beyond relying on Medics/Sandvich, and some sort of combat niche, even if it's just "tank guy"

>>384057281
They should give heavy a riot sheild type primary replacement for playing shotgun heavy

>>384057909
>Riot shield

Could actually work. It goes well with his role as a tank/defence and able to help his team out.

>>384057909
That's a pretty good idea, actually

>>384057909
What I think might work is to give heavy some innate damage resistance when fully spun up (in exchange for slower spin up speed) and the ability to be healed from ammo boxes in exchange for less ammo (Like, a medium box gives 25HP and 75 ammo instead of giving 100 ammo)

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>>384047224
>mfw I'm one of them

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>>384047763
every fucking thread

>>384057569
OP made a thread and said the password was "the usual" so someone asked what the password was so he called them a "newfag". Everyone in the thread told him to quit being a retard and just post the password in the OP next time so he threw an autisitc shitfit. By the end of it he decided to pull a move out of the Dobson playbook and said "WELL HOW ABOUT I JUST TAKE OFF THE FUCKING PASSWORD THEN IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO TELL IT TO EVERYONE" and left

>>384057909
Overtrash already overdid shields (its not a fun mechanic)

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IT'S ___ FUCKING FAIR
Seriously the DR should NEVER have gotten ammo recharge

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>>384047763
I'll never stop laughing at this webm.

>>384058323
Damn, just as Party Van was becoming alive again.

>>384058353
They are only unfun in overwatch because the whole game is built around them

>>384058323
Seriously what the fuck

>>384058510
I don't think thats what makes it unfair though. The thing thats actually annoying about the DR is that regardless of if someone is actually using it or not, if you kill a spy you immedietly have to sweep the area just in case they were using it. Which isn't fixable.

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>Can't think of a good name for my RL

ech

I've got some ideas for the conch but nothing great

>>384058640
I still don't think a tf2 team hiding behind a riot shield on the payload woukd be a fun experience

>>384055734
The All American Burger launcher
>Rocket Launcher
>On hit on allies: Restores 50 health (Direct), 10 health (Splash)
>1 sec slow on enemies hit
>-25% clip size
>10% slower projectile

>>384058124
Additionally, this damage resistance would be ignored by backstabs, and afterburn, and would only apply to Heavy's innate health (meaning the defense doesn't stack with overheal)

>>384059086
I really didn't envision it being that big

>>384058323
To be fair, you do have to be a massive newfag to not know about "rage" or potentially "vidya". Sperging out might have been a bit much though.

>>384058915
This 5 says you will name it "benis for every occasion"

>>384055668
you don't think it's a little overboard to waste money on fancy hats just so some faggots will suck your dick in a video games?

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Hey /v/,
yore
ugleh

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>>384061052
nah I thought of something

>>384061023
Or you can just put the password in the OP. That's "the usual".

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>>384052825
>using GRU
what madman uses that over the eviction notice

>>384061508
Maybe
But if it's your favorite game, and if it's your money, then you can spend it however you want it

Although spending amounts like 100$ is rather silly I admit

>>384058510
I'm fine with ammo recharge but fire immunity is dumb.

>>384053186
You're right. The vidya one is even worse.

Having no cosmetics is a sign of being new. Of being a casual. Of being bad. Of being F2P. Drowning yourself in cosmetics shows that you're worth something, at least to the twisted view of the community.

Are there any /v/ servers left?

>>384064386
No

Why are people so fucking bad at this game?

TF2 is a game where you don't need to be a good player to be good at. There's class meant for bad players like engie and medic where they just need to do one thing and they're be good enough.

I really don't get it. You know how some of them even struggle with WASD.

>>384064945
You can play for free and the ranked mode is a joke. There is no reason to become good when everyone sucks.

>>384064945
>medic
>class for bad players

>>384064945
Who wants to play boring classes like Engineer or Medic? These people have something mentally wrong with them for choosing a shooting game, and picking decidedly non shooting classes.

>>384057786
Heavy's entire design philosophy is "sacrifice mobility for tankiness," though. You can't just give Heavy "better mobility and sustainability" without (a) making him completely broken or (b) redesigning him from the ground up to the point where nu-Heavy is 100% different from old-Heavy.

>>384065157
Because they're bad at video games and those classes are meant for them.

You know how those "engie main" and "medic main" take pride in "maining" the most braindead classes out of the entire game. When in reality you should be good enough to use them in fullest without having to play them for 500 hours.

>>384033636
Enjoy your shitty waifu game

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lets see 'em

>>384065764
>DaveTheCableInstallationGuy.jpg

>>384062150
>those names
8/10 would pocket

>>384055734

>Flamethrower
>The more enemies that you currently have lit on fire, the more damage afterburn does, capping out at 8 damage
>Afterburn duration increased to 12 seconds
>Afterburn initially starts at 1 damage
>Airblast only destroys projectiles
>Airblast does not control player movement

>>384065764
Go play dress up barbies in your general, autist.

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>>384066083
He's definitely the autistic one here anon

any good websites for things like map layouts, heatmaps, unedited gameplay footage, etc?

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>>384065764

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>>384065764

>>384061627
post the vid faggot
>>384064386
no
does anyone have that vid i think it's /v/ plays counterstrike or some shit.

>>384066362
I'm glad you agree. He probably spends more time doing his loadouts than actually playing the game.

>>384066420
>>384066436
I hate that it's trendy now to be as gay as possible.

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>>384062150
Those are some fucking swell names, anon.

>>384066571
f2p detected

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How to fix TF2

>increase pyro's airblast box by 40% and duration by 50%
>decrease pyro's airblast cost by 75%
>increase pyro's walk speed by 50%
>give pyro explosion immunity
>make detonator and scorch shot full crit instead of mini
>make the flare guns hitscan
>make the flamethrower melt bullets with each bullets costing 1 ammo
>decrease soldier's health by 25%
>decrease the rocket launcher speed by 40% for all rocket launchers
>decrease the rocket damage by 35%
>double the sentry health
>increase the building speed by 30%
>sapper doesn't damage buildings and just makes them dysfunction
>spy's disguise wears out when sapping just as he does when attacking

There, saved this game.

>>384066851
>give pyro explosion immunity
>make flamethrower delete bullets
>double sentry HP
>sapper doesn't damage buildings
Were these meant to be ironic?

can someone post that shitty engineer frag webm already

>>384067268
already posted, check spoilers

>>384067212
Shut the fuck up bitch

>>384055668
>Fancy hats
Are my main target. There is nothing more satisfying than dominating an unusual wearing autist and his friends.

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Just need to think of a name for the hat.

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>>384066851

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>>384065764

>>384066587
>I did it before it was cool

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>>384067753
>"Kleer Repellent"
You're a Serious guy anon. I like it.

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>>384065764

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>>384065764
*loudly uncloaks behind you*

>>384067682
Little Witch Hat

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>>384065764
What HUD is that?

>>384067682
Shitty names but I like the cosmetics.

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>>384068103
It breaks the theme but I might need to use that.
>>384068157
Thanks, the descriptions to each sell the names better.

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This Minigun was literally my first strange weapon.

>>384068314
>Carpet Munching Monday
I feel like such a retard for laughing at that.

>>384067676
Yes, but irrelevant to the conversation
Fancy hats will get you friends and foes alike

>>384068438
gtfo weeb fag

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For some reason I just keep wanting to play Spy lately.

>>384068827
It is a fun, albeit, out of place class in a shooting game.

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>>384067682
Just trade it, since they updated the hat polygons it looks awful, and the glow is eye piercing bad instead of faint orange

>tfw used to own an unusual witch hat

999% mad.

>>384062293
>letting newfag redditors onto your server by posting the password publically
nah

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anyone else have a goofy loadout for fucking around with?

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>>384065764

>>384069597
When im bired i say fuck it and i go with the most horrid f2p looking scout with FaN and still manage to top score sometimes and annoy the fuck outta everyone

>>384069597
Loch and load/Loose cannon with sticky jumper is always fun to annoy snipers.

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>>384065764

>>384068827
nice names, anon

>>384069706
That looks good, not very Medic-like, but good.

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>>384069982
I try.

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>>384069597

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>>384070085
a couple of my loadouts are just cosmetics that I randomly crafted and they just seemed to look good with each other

>>384069597
The weapon names in my post here >>384068438 because they piss off failed normalfags like the poster here >>384068801

I have 1.52 in my steam wallet, should I get 2 name tags or a strange weapon?

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>>384065764
Have a blurry scout

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>pumped up kicks plays loudly in the distance

>>384070575
Get an update

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This is my normal Demo setup. Fuck you, too. Valve.

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>>384070673

>>384070765
>using a sword without a shield
>using cosmetics of any kind
>0 kills on stranges
do you literally treat this game as dressup and not play it?

I think tags are pretty cheap these days, so depending on what strange you want you could probably get both

>>384071010
>0 kills on stranges
Do you play this fucking game?

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>>384071010
>0 kills on stranges
Also the claidheamh mor is good for defensive situations in choke points and bottle necked hallways due to the reach. Hence why I'm using it with the Scottish Resistance

>>384070575
>>384071223

>>384071247
havent played since sniper vs spy, so technically no, i don't. but i see the kill counter thing on his loadout full of a bunch of fat zeroes, so even if i got the name of that shit wrong, the point still stands: zero kills.

>>384071550
You can stop being retarded any time. Nobody is making you do this.

>>384071601
>I don't have an argument so i will resort to ad-hominem by calling the opponent retarded
I accept your concession.

>>384071803
Why are you like this

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>>384071803
>you will never be this retarded

>>384071358
one tag is .73, so I'd have .79 to blow. good idea

medic gun, flamethrower, or plain ol' shotgun?

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*blocks your update*

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>>384072107
I am an artificial intelligence designed to troll people.

>>384072128
I accept your concession.

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>>384072305
>damage control

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You could be playing Team Fortress 2 Classic with me instead of waiting to be disappointed by tf2's skelleton crew maiming the pyro and every other class save soldier.

>>384072363
>he has never played system shock before
I accept your concession.

>>384058323
>>384058562
>>384058649
>not knowing the password
The password wasn't the problem with the new server you fucking literal underage faggots, the problem was the mod enforced shitty rules that never existed in the original party van.

>>384072298
she's probably going to be the final the boss. I bet it's going to be revealed that she's the administrator's sister

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>>384065764
r8

>>384072817
Nobody said the problem was the password. Are you ok?

>>384072136
shotgun probably since you can use it on several classes

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second post ending in 7 decides

no fucking rerolling

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>>384073118

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>>384073118
this image
>>384073293
>unusual taunts
Now this is how you destroy the market

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>>384073118

>>384072875
>Everyone in the thread told him to quit being a retard and just post the password in the OP next time
Are you?

>>384073542
The problem wasn't the password. You need better reading comprehension.

Would it be worth it adjust myself to using low sensitivity and a lot more dpi? That's what all the pros tell me.

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>>384073118

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>>384069597

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>>384073118

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>>384073118

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>>384073118

>>384073716
>huntsman AND the razorback

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>>384073118
put uncensored loli porn on it. no i'm not risking a ban to post an example.

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>>384073118

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>>384073402
i got this one too

>>384073642
Yes, one of the problems people had was the password. Read the part I quoted. You're just pretending it doesn't count because the mod sperging out was also considered a problem, as if only the more significant of the two events is relevant.

>>384070765
>there are people who still use the claymore
holy shit

>>384073965
ive been banned for posting that pic before

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>>384062150
nice

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>>384073118

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>>384073118

>>384073934
thats the joke senpai

>>384073997
The problem wasn't the password. The problem was the OP trying to turn the password into a problem. A symptom of him trying to enforce retarded rules, like you said.

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>>384073118

>>384073992
ayo hold up.
Is that a rotating burnt out duck with the Fireworks party trick taunt?
god damn.
so when is valve gonna release more unusual miscs?

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>>384073118
TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

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>>384069597

>>384074096
i've been banned for 30 days for calling someone a nigger. all of the current staffers are not original 2003 staff members, they don't realize 4chan was a website full of lolicon racist NEETs in 2003.

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>>384065764
Objectively the best pyro cosmetic.

>>384073118
your credit card details

>>384065764
people who don't use default characters are subhuman

>>384074758
Bill, please dont post your wife like that.
she still gets me hard

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>>384073118
7 get!

>>384072298
More.

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>>384075295
No

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>>384073118
this

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>>384073118

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>>384073118

>>384075414
WOAH

>>384055668
>And maybe 2 or 3 Medics

>mfw won an aussie grenade launcher in mvm
>don't have any other cosmetics
>get pocketed every game regardless
>mfw im garbage

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>>384073118
please pick this

>>384076106
What was the point where Valve said "lol who cares, get dat dollar"? I feel like it was pretty much instantly.

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>>384073118

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>>384073118

>>384076547

What a waste.

>>384076106
How is the hot dogger not fitting? It's 50s as hell

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Do you guys have songs for some of yor classes

>spy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkas-NHQnsI
>heavy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuxRxO0Y_g4
>engineer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_8Pma1vHmw
>scout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJQyGbv0oZ8

>>384076513
it started with mannconomy, but the pieces were in place for it much earlier
at this point nobody in valve seems to have the combination of integrity, ability, and ambition to change things for the better

>>384076106
Wouldnt Promotional shit be the exceptions to going out of the style?

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was anyone else as retarded as myself and at some point crafted the proof of purchase

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>>384036352
Yeah, i've spent 3 years without playing the game and i sold pretty mcuh everything. Now i am back and with reined metal costing aroun 30refs i can equip almost everyone , i might buy 2 to 5 keys and see what i get out of it.

i really want the engies 3 chin, that shit is way too funny

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>>384076106
>shitting on the monarch henchman cap

No fuck you

>>384076735
promo shit is a disease regardless, that just makes it worse

>>384076547
>I did this crop some years ago.
>people are still using

i feel proud.

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>>384065764

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>>384047763
Every time

>>384077079

I can see the fucking time bar below it

git gud holy shit

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Hey, I have a couple keys and want to trade them for some cosmetics. How many normal, not-strange/unusual/etc. cosmetics can I get for one key, on average? And how do I go about trading for the items? I doubt one person has all of the stuff I want, so do I sell the key for metal first?
It's been a while since I traded, so please help me out.

>>384076915
Nah fuck you memer, venture bros. is a fun show but has no place in tf2

>>384076782
nah i still got mine but i was dumb enough to craft Achievement items and and make them into weapons and hats.
Untradeable Vintage Zaitochi
UNtradeable Hustlers hallmark
Hell i even crafted that comic paper manniversary gave out so many years ago

>>384077386
i just use scrap.tf because i'm lazy

>>384077386
>tradefags

>>384047763
>someone thought this was skill
What did she mean by this?

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>>384066851
Finally something that makes sense.

>>384077301
good enough for people to use it, that and all the flanders crops i've made.

feels good.

>>384077037
>shitting on the total war items
fucking pleb taste

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>>384077413
Ahh fuck you artsy man

Id argue it kinda fits as the monarchs henchmen looks like a 60's villan

>>384076915
I've got my scout decked out in full hench gear.

Named my strange shortstop "Standard Issue Monarch Dart Gun". I don't give a fuck.

>>384077896
Now that is some dedication, #24

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>>384077564
workable and ethical are different things
total war items are far from the worst offenders but they're still out of place items added for the sake of profit

>>384077896
I have a golden force a nature because it looks like the dartgun

Otherwise I look the same as ya

I just want a golden pan

>>384078760
Rather have a Gold Bison or Golden whip tbqh

>>384078760
>just give me 3000 dollars
nah

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What is your stance on cheaters /v/?

>>384079235
Report then move on with my life. Although, they are just another blight that is slowly killing the game.

>>384079235
just report and kick

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What are you guys actually looking forward to?

>another shitty lottery box keycrate
>some balance changes implemented by people who dont care about competitive or casual
>yet another poignant reminder that demoman, medic and soldier are the only relevant classes
>hats hats hats hats hats hats hats

>>384079640
All I want is a new MvM map.

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>>384079804
>MvM

>>384079640
shit that's not tf2 because i dropped it years ago

>>384079897
>not liking mvm
>>384079804
there are a few mvm servers out there with custom maps, check em out

>>384066420
That boy needs therapy.

>>384079640
I just come to these threads to laugh at the people still holding onto hope for this lifeless husk of what was once tf2

>>384079804
>still no update where the offline training mode is replaced with the actual bots

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>>384079804
>mfw fell for the MvM meme
>all the parts and killstreaks kits in backpack are a grim reminder
I mean, i like the PKS shit but the golds are not that worth

>>384080150
same, surprised valve has been able to keep this shit going

Just going to leave this here:

https://youtu.be/w1W5DU4zmAA

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>>384066851

Airblast should really just let you hold it indefinitely, like a vacuum cleaner on reverse. As it stands a Soldier, Demoman or anyone can just bait your puff and kick the shit out of you in that small timeframe it takes for you to produce another one. Just let him hold it for up to 10 seconds, run at the enemy and blow them wherever. Then you can't use it for the amount of time you spent using it.

>b-b-but thats OP

Fuck off, Soldier and Demoman have spent this game's entire history being the core classes because there is no counter to spamming explosive projectiles like a sperg. Maybe we'll actually see Soldiers equip shotgun again rather than a gay backpack with this change.

>>384055734
>Wrench
>Goal: teach players to be more flexible in their choice of sentry levels, along with teaching them to upgrade other buildings
>+Players can cycle through the sentry's levels by pressing R, bringing up a menu where you can choose between sentry levels
>-have to upgrade dispensers and teleporters to get the desired levels (lvl 2 for it to be cycleable to two, lvl 3 to be cycleable to three)
>-Stats

>Disguise kit
>Goal: teach players to utilize friendly disguises more
>+Friendly disguises give you exact same stats as said disguise in stock (125 health + speed as scout, health regen as medic)
>-have to be moving in order to gain positives
>-cloak?
>(i) enemy diguise still works the same

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>>384076106
Why do people shit on the volcano fragment so much

>>384080097
Yeah I play on one of them, I really like mvm_snowfall (haven't played on it yet but I like the layout and visuals)

>>384080421
Fuck off, nobody talks about that anymore. we all know this was done to cause controversy among us.

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>want all-father for wizard demo
>that shit costs 17 ref these days
the worst part is that I used to have one and I don't know when I lost it

>>384080482
If you could hold Airblast down, would you turn down the Ammo cost or raise the ammo pool?
Also would you implement some kind of Vaccumm gimmick, and if so how would you work it? turn sucked items into ammo?
force players to come close into melee range?

>>384080748
>being this delusional

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>>384073293
>Molten Mallard

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>>384077037
Grenades seem out of place but the helmet fits in perfectly.

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>>384081071

Thanks for the promotion

>>384035908
that looks ugly af. so much shit going on

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>>384081071
inb4 hotpockets arrive

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>>384081071
>not even spoilering it

>>384081060
here's your (you) >>384080421
admit it, nobody is gonna talk about it anymore CrowbCat. go on to your next controversial video and don't forget to add the most Emotionally Manipulative song you can find so you can get that sweet sweet cash.

>>384080725
Useless melee
There's no reason to use the fragment instead of the flamethrower at melee range

>>384058915
>Freedom-in-A-Tube
>The Magic Conch Shell

>>384080725
because its historically the worst weapon in the game and has only really ever served a purpose in medieval mode

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>>384081564
wrong lol

>>384080421
Here.

https://youtu.be/xfMrdty8LNw

CBCat is a nitpicker fag. If anything, TF2 looks way better and runs better than ever before. The viewmodels on the old weapons were terrible, and the shininess/details went against the cartoony art style.

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What's going on in this thread

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>>384081294
>that pic
It's too good, but pretty much the artists only good one.

>>384081849
>CBCat is a nitpicker fag
>CBCat is a bunch of nitpicking fags
FTFY

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>>384081815
Ok.

>>384081849
>shininess went against the cartoony art style
You're really going to pretend that phong went against the art style?

>>384081960
I agree. But it's still so good.

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>>384081071

>>384066540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANcqMStDyJk

>>384052273
>be brick wall that annihilates anything close to you
>SO SHIT HOW DO I ROCKET JUMP
What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>384080482
>Fuck off, Soldier and Demoman have spent this game's entire history being the core classes because there is no counter to spamming explosive projectiles like a sperg
There are counters you're just too shit to use them.

>>384084453
His point is that while effective Heavy is just dull to play, you fucking ninny.

>>384080131
I just want to know what's wrong with me

>>384084568

Name literally even one

If you say "airblast" you're an idiot

>>384084603
I know.

>>384085021
Soldier is countered by heavy and scout
Demo is countered by soldier and scout

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>>384085340
>Soldier is countered by heavy

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>>384085340
>Soldier is countered by heavy

>>384085340
>Soldier is countered by heavy
Yeah. I fucking wish.

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>>384085340
>Soldier is countered by heavy
STARS AND STRIPES BEAT HAMMER AND SICKLE
LOOOK IT UP

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>>384085495
>>384085647
>>384085710
heavy is the best anti air class in the game denying soldiers rocket jumps
heavy can shrug off rockets with the largest health pool in the game

>youre just bad at soldier!
I'm a 6000 hour soldier main, heavy is my goto pick when I have to deal with teams of 6+ soldiers.

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>>384085340
>soldier is countered by heavy

Valve will never make their baby class be bested, mainly because soldier shitters will cry to no end if he gets countered by anything

>>384086240

You have 6000 hours of being a fucking retard apparently

Soldier needs 2 to 3 hits to kill you, which he can easily do by rocket jumping over your head or just corner shooting you

>>384086240
How good is Natascha for fucking over soldiers or what would you recommend?

I WANT TO FUCK OLIVIA

>>384086353
Soldier has to be point blank to do 100 damage rockets where heavy shreds him with 500 dps.

>which he can easily do by rocket jumping over your head
Against the minigun? Are you retarded? Heavy will shred you in midair.

>>384086486
Garbage, DPS penalty isn't worth it just work on your aim.
Stock when you have a medic
Tomislav when you don't.

>>384076513
I learned they lowed the snack bar at Valve HQ to office chair height

>>384086240
6000 hours of being shit apparently.

>>384086283
>wtf why I can't kill soldiers with pyro, valve nerf pls
pyro doesn't counter soldier and never has, learn to play scout shitter