Lootbox

>>384022794
Valve

>>384022794
I did, what the fuck are you going to do about it?

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>>384022794

>>384022927
Gonna fuck your mum, faggot.

Who else is actively killing good games?

Valve

>>384022794
Japs.

>>384022794
Valve laid the groundwork and blizzard refined it

and the sad part is that people will defend it because "its only cosmetic", and see nothing wrong with a company taking something as basic as character customizations and turning it into a casino.

>>384022794
The Jew, for he is eternal

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>>384023017
Sure I don't mind, but that's just one thing you could get from this loot box.

>>384023146
>its only cosmetic
>unusuals make you an easier target

Actually, this is good because it allows F2P games to exist, and without paywalling actual gameplay content. It's a pretty good model and it brings more games into the world, which is a good thing.

Overwatch is just putting the jewishness into overdrive by adding it to a $80 game.

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>>384023243

>unlock items in the game
>pay to unlock items in the game
>pay for a chance to unlock items in the game

what's next

>>384023395
Pay for a chance to maybe pay for a chance to unlock items ingame?

It's okay when Valve does it.

>>384023395
>pay to buy the game to pay for a chance to unlock an item ingame that you can pay to unlock an item

>>384023395
Pay for temporary passes to the place where you pay for a chance to unlock items in the game.
A loot box market cover charge.

>>384023395
>pay to avoid a random chance that one of your unlocked items disappears

>>384022904
>>384023010
>>384023029
Adleast valve lets you buy the hat/cosmetic you want with no bullshit hassle
For blizzard I gotta burn through 15/20 crates to get the skin I want and I can't trade it so whats the point?

>>384023357
You could have ads or pay to unlock new updates early

>>384023357
dota 2 does this amazingly. You occasionally get random sets for free, and can buy boxes or sets on the marketplace.

then you have rocket league and overwatch that just add the system for no reason other than more profit

>>384022794
>Invented
Some obscure minor game dev.
>Made popular
Valve.

>>384022904
smartphone games were doing long before valve. valve just copied their model and spun it off.

>>384023395
pay a separate subscription to keep your items

>>384023395
pay money for the game to beat itself or unlock all the achievements instantly

>>384022794
Mass Effect 3.

>>384023640
Yeah with real money at stupidly inflated prices

>>384023395
You can only gain exp and level up if you pay for a pass that gives you a set number of hours/days.

>>384023665
The problem with ads is that they inconvenience everyone, and you're not really adding stuff to the game. Even if I'm not the kind of whale to drop $400 to get everything I want, I still might pick up a cheap skin or two, or get it as a gift. Paid cosmetics add to the game, instead of making it worse.

Early access to updates sounds like it's either "pay to beta test for us" or that the entire update is delayed for everyone except for paid users. Both of those seem pretty bad.

>>384023357
>F2P games
>good

I could save money and buy full games just fine when I was 14. All F2P does is bring in third world human garbage.

Valve and Blizzard could implement a recurring monthly payment option to unlock additional cosmetics and there would still be a group of people to defend it.

>>384023395
>Items are temporary 24 hr cosmetics

>>384023640
the point is to make you spend a shitload of money on their product. welcome to the future, anon.

>>384023912
Buy it from the community market or trade ingame
A hat can go for 4.99$ on the steam market but cost 1.33 or 2 ref ingame, which is nothing

>>384024047
valve already did this with some dota 2 items. the lake vials are temporary consumables that costs money to unlock

>>384024059
See >>384024083

It's pretty much gachashit and that's been in Japan for a long time.

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>Game has cosmetic items / skins
>Doesnt let you disable them
Why hasnt this been done

>>384023395
pay for a chance to get the loot box. then you have to pay again to unlock it

>>384023708
in online multiplayer games.
farm simulator mobile doesn't count.

>>384024318
Do you happen to live under rock?

>>384024276
this was possible in TF2 before sv_pure existed

>>384024276
>thinking you're entitled to avoiding seeing shit people paid good money for

>>384022794
Think it derivates from the MMO lootbox thing. I think lootsorting is the most fucking tiresome thing those games do but apparently it does click on dumb people.

Valve took the idea of selling cosmetics (hats) and a gacha system (keys and crates) from asian MMORPGs

>>384024318
ever heard of MOBAGE games? they been doing it since 2008 at least in online smartphone games

>>384024043
Valve already does this in DOTA
it's called the Battle Pass system

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>>384022794

Bioware & EA

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>>384024434
>They get to see their immersion breaking camoskins
>I get to see a normal ingame textures
Its win/win anon

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>>384023395
Pay for a chance to get a game

Early access and Star Citizen have been around for sometimes u know

>>384024734
Part of me paying for skins is that it makes people too poor to pay for them mad though.
You will see them and you will hate it, but it's the only way I have fun.

>>384022794
some unknown conman invented it
game companies just adopted it
it's called gambling

>>384024318
aside from mobage doing it since the mid 2000's, most people first know the system from Maple Story, which started in 2003

>>384023342
>be playing ARK
>everyone built massive buff guys as their charecters
>my charecter is an emaciated midget
>these plebes dont know about hitboxes
>snipe the shit outta guys with cartoonishly muscular and tall charecters easily whilst myself being too short to detect in low bushes

>>384024816
Or people like him won't play the game, the population will die out and you'll have no one to play with.

>>384024816
>Shell out money that'll show em ;^)
I wish I had that ghostJUSTers feminist pic they made to spite people against the movie to show how similar you are to them cretins.

>>384024654
>"hey kid wanna buy this skin for $10"

no

>"ok what if you could pay $10, to grind quests to get a chance to get the skin"

oh ok yeah

>>384024276
>Blizzard releases a "Remove the Cosmetics" package.
>For $5 USD + tax + tip you can disable all cosmetics of other players on your screen.
>Literally make money off the people who just can't stand cosmetics.

Surprised it hasn't been done yet either.

>>384023395
Renting items that get taken away when you stop paying.

>>384024276
>>384024434

Some of them rape your framerate. I unironically quit dota because an ember skin was so bad it made the game unplayable even at lowest settings

>>384025017
Most people will justify it as "I'm paying to unlock multiple cosmetics for $10" instead of One item for $10.

And I'll admit I bought into the TF2 Mission thing they did 2 years ago to see what it was like. I didn't get any specific cosmetic I wanted, but I did get about 35 cosmetics from it I would not have gotten otherwise.

>>384023612
Screencapped, because this _will_ happen.

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>>384025017
>give me $20 more and I'll let you grind faster

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Soon Nintendo will be charging a online fee to go online on Pokemon for the Switch just to trade Pokemon with other players.

>>384025046
It would be a schadenfreude seeing all the legions of sewer dwelling chimps mad that some people wont be seeing their 200$ glowing orb cosmetics.

>>384023640
Valve also making you have to pay to open the lootboxes.
Overwatches lootboxes technically can always be free.

Not saying Blizzards way is okay, but dont try and make Valve out to not be as big if not bigger pieces of shit when it comes to lootboxes.

>>384025163
Pretty fucking sure a korean fps already done it.

Valve/blizzard are babies compared to east asian companies.

>>384024992
>>384025008
Get jobs losers.

>>384025163
asian games are way ahead of you
Gunbound, for example, has been doing this for almost 15 years now

>>384025393
>You get a lootbox every time you rank
>The higher your rank the less you get
Its worse imo

>>384024083
The tf2 market is somewhat easy to climb. Use third party websites like tf2wh to obtain items on the cheap then sell them off in trade servers or on the market for more. Or vice versa.

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>>384025315
>not giving your money directly to cr1t

>>384023395
I think the next logical step would be to make you pay to open the boxes you get from leveling up

>>384025436
Being retarded and throwing away money on useless shit to try and spite strangers on the internet who don't actually care isn't needed for a job, anon.

>>384025315
>valve seeds the pool with $1.6M
>prize pool already at $21.3M
>25% of battle pass sales go straight to prize pool

Valve made $78.8M off of battle passes, before 25% cut
That's fucking insane

>>384023640
>at least this type of terminal cancer didn't painfully kill you, it just killed you slowly!
This sort of bullshit damage control is exactly why this shit is everywhere.

Flash news, it isn't just the comparably worst thing in the industry that contributes setting bad standards. May be a difficult concept to grap for a pre-teen but try to do your best Timmy.

>>384023612
Genius future seeing seer here, everybody make way.

>>384025861
You should see how much some smartphone games make from micro-transactions alone. Granblue made more money than some AAA games.

>>384025436
Good to know this is bait

>>384022794
Earliest I remember hearing about it electronically was a few Korean MMOs back in 2007. Before that, trading cards and blind boxes.

>>384023395
pay a monthly subscription to keep your cosmetics unlocked

infact there's cancer f2p fps that do this already

>>384025861
>there are a ton of moba drones who will get scammed the fuck out without question
what's new?

>>384023706
no im pretty sure valve invented it as there's no point in having loot boxes for a game without a large playerbase

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>>384023517
this is almost in csgo with buying crates on the market that you then need to buy a key to open

>>384023612
Void keys in Warframe
Except you can also get those passes by playing the game and not paying anything, but since you can also buy in-game currency (plats) with real money it's exactly what you're describing

I think the blizz/valve comparison doesn't quite hold water; the key difference being that with overshill you can't trade anything

>>384025861
Why would valve ever need to make a game when they have shit like that
hire like ~10 good 3D modelers and call it a day

Valve created them, but it's hard to talk shit on them considering I've made hundreds of dollars just turning around and selling them on the steam market, essentially getting many games for free.

>>384026194
You don't pay for a chance at loot once you're in the void though.

At least OW lootboxes are free and pretty easy to get and there's in-game currency to buy skins. TF2 makes you pay for keys so you can have the slim chance that you won't lose your money.

>>384026194
That's more like an interactive loot box.
Imagine if now on top of that, you got boxes like in TF2 as the only rewards from the void, and had to pay for keys to open them.

the important part is that people who care about skins are stupid, and should be mocked

>>384026304
This.
I used to do Dota 2 betting and was really good at predicting who would win matches. Ended up getting a ton of items and I sold them before the Dota market popped. Used the money to buy Steam games and pay for my FFXIV sub.

>>384024816
Your loyalty brings a tear to my eye, goy

>>384025353
I legit had someone mad in TF2 because no one noticed or commented that they had that $100 ring cosmetic. It's hilarious to watch them chimp out on not being noticed.

>>384026360
OW skins can't be traded so it makes no difference if you get a ultra rare or a shitty spray
Unless you sell your account, inwhich case good luck finding someone who will pay you a worthwhile price AND trust you

>>384026615
people sell WoW accounts all the time

What if you made a game where you had everything unlocked, but the game took away items each week, so you have to buy Lootboxes to keep all the stuff from disappearing?

>>384026615
I sold my LoL account to some turbo nerd near me for $500 because i had a bunch of beta skins and shit.

You'd be surprised what a well place Craigslist ad can do.

>>384026541
b but anon, no one buys it for the ring, they buy it for the ''Adolf Hitler accepts Eva Braun's ring of true love and Eternal bliss!'' message

>>384023640
in hots you can do it too, and you can do it for free with shards
it's just overwatch team

>>384026721
Yeah but thats like playing a game of Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the barrel

>>384025613
Lootboxes you get for playing the game which are free too open.

If you somehow believe thats worse than boxes you HAVE to pay for then I dont know what to tell you.

>>384022794
>whining about purely cosmetic shit that you can't see for yourself because it's fucking first person

>>384027078
>You only get a box everytime you rank up
Its worse anon, no doubt about it
Adleast I get free tf2 items for just being idle
Not that its worth wasting electricity like that

>>384024083
Basically, it's just cosmetics
>there are poorfags posting in this board who care about $1.33
LOL

You get the cosmetic, and you keep it, but you can only equip it when it has a certain "durability value" which decreases every time you die, and which you can replenish with money.

Remember, good players don't die, so you better pay up or else you'll look like a scrub!

>>384027317
I meant ingame TF2 currency dude.
1.33 1 ref 1 reclaimed is about roughly $0.10

>>384027248
You also get them for completing "quests"

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>Valves cosmetics are overpri-
Only on steam market which is shit

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>>384024948
>manlet uprising

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>>384024948
>tfw manlets are the master race

>>384028038
I used to think reclaimed metal was super valuable now you can buy hats and shit for the price of a trading card. Good.

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>>384028038
>>384029387
NEVERMIND I didn't read the " BUY NOW " WHAT THE FUCK

>>384023517
I can see this happening in some future CSGO "Donate at least X money to X charity to get a chance at getting a special charity box that has a 1% chance of getting you a "cool" knife"

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>>384027248
It takes the same amount of exp to rank up for every rank though.

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>pay for movement
>pay to shoot your gun
>pay to change graphics options

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>>384023838
>>384024710
While ME3 did come out before CSGO, it really caught on after Valve got so much success out of it.

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>>384023612
Didn't valve do this with the robot shit?

Mobile games

>>384022794
Lootboxes are a great way to keep people playing the game. And then there are the retards who put actual real money to skins. God. Just blame yourself if you are buying em, you are the reason this shit exists.