MediEvil

This game wasn't the main inspiration for the Souls series, but I still loved it.

>>383988576
Yes, it is a little known fact that the people who made King's Field, which was already basically 1st person Souls, were time travelers and were heavily inspired by this game that was released 3 years later.

>>383988662

That was awesome. I fucking loved this game when i was a kid. Can only imagine the nostalgia overload if i was to play it now

>>383989005
It's a great game not just because of nostalgia. The PSP one was better, though.

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>>383989261
>PSP one was better

Literally how.

>>383989261
The tone was way off with the psp version. It should be Tim Burton-esque horror with comedic elements and not wacky comedy with horror elements.

>>383988576

I adore MediEvil but it wasn't. I'd mention King's Field and maybe even early Zelda/Castlevania before even thinking of listing MediEvil. Fuck, they probably looked at Ghosts N' Goblins before MediEvil and that was MediEvil's inspiration. That all said, the inverse would probably be true if MediEvil 3 were to ever happen and you all know it. I don't want it, it's just probably what would happen.

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>>383988576
MediEvil is my favorite game of all time it's dope as hell.

>>383988662
I could never beat that fucker in the demo.

>>383989360
It's like REmake and RE1. While both games are great, the remastered version with better graphics and better everything (still catches the right atmosphere) is superior

>>383989615
>(still catches the right atmosphere)
WRONG! see >>383989386

>>383989549
>in the demo

This game was weird for having multiple demos, I had two different ones but I don't think that boss even was in either one

>>383989261

Haha, you almost got me, you fucker.

>>383989615

No, anon. It's near universally acknowledged that Resurrection isn't a scratch on the original. Also, it was apparently shat out in a year and involved few staff from the original.

>>383989386

Yeah, this. MediEvil was never super serious, but holy fuck, they went overboard and kept diving in the remake. Also, and I the only person who spelled "medieval" wrong for years because of this game? I admit the proper spelling still doesn't look right to me.

>>383990019

It's a nice play on words but seeing as it was my first exposure to the work I kinda feel you there too. Medieval just feels wrong.

>>383988662
>Get caught by the glass shard attacks
>Caught during one of the jumps
>Doesn't wait in place before the first heart charge
>No shield

What a scrub.

>>383989414
You are a cool dude

>>383990238
The WebM shows off the game play, not some expert demolishing the game. Someone unfamiliar can see how attacks deal damage, what happens when Dan dies, what to do and what not to do.

>>383988576
Medievil remaster when?

>there is a MediEvil thread on /v/ with replies

Didn't think I'd see this day ever again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjgaiQvWC_Y [Embed]
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Still listening the ost.

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>>383988576
I played MediEvil 2 first and loved it, but after playing the first one a couple of years later, even kid me could see how much weaker 2 was. The first one had such a brilliant sense of humour.
>that sheepfucking joke when zarok is casting his spells before his fight

>>383990326
Fair point, then. But going by your logic no shield means no showing of the shield mechanics.

>>383990414

A remaster would entail fixing the camera angles and character control. Could you even begin to imagine the dissonance between modern visuals and the camera work on stages like Pools of the Ancient Dead or Cathedral Spires: The Descent? But you know what, keep the spirit alive and I'd be game for remasters of 1 & 2.

>>383990442

/v/ has a closet love for MediEvil. If you speak of it, odds are they will come.

>>383990524
Yeah, that is a downer. I just ripped the WebM off of Youtube.

>>383990442
It is just because everyone loves MediEvil but once you have been in one thread about. You kinda talk about everything you can and then the next thread is no point or just revolves around remaster when talk

>>383990454

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci5MAAvlUfI

To this day it's still one of my favorite songs in any vidya OST.

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>>383989615
I'll give you that the visuals and music was 10/10, everything else was a big downgrade
>sluggish combat
>writing that tried too hard to be funny
>the final battle being changed
>the Hall of Heroes being some Hercules-looking shit
>that genie living in Dan's head
It had some neat ideas that work but overall it doesn't hold a candle to the original

>there will never be a Medievil III

>>383990659

Is Resurrection ultimately worth playing? MediEvil's charm is a huge factor for me and I dunno if I could stand to see it be tarnished too heavily.

>>383990718
Not even a little. It's not horrific, but it's absolutely not worth playing when you can very easily emulate the original.

>>383988576
It doesn't need to be, to be great.

Well not great, I replayed it not too long ago and it was very bare-bones. A skeleton for a good game but since all the hack n slashes of the era were awkward Acclaim fests you can hardly blame them for not nourishing the backbone of the game that much.

Also hiding Good Lightning behind you as you entered the final boss door was stupid.

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I can dump some art/concept work for MediEvil
>>383990718
Only if you're curious. Even if it has issues it's still a fun game that at least tries to hold on to the charm of the original. The problem is they tried to double down on one aspect of the charm (dark comedy, humor in general) instead of balancing it with the other aspect (Tim Burton-esque dark fantasy)

>>383988662
>Enemy is made entirely of glass
>"His heart is his only weak point!"

Souls was more like Kings Field & Diablo

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>>383990798

Yeah, seems like something to stay away from as I have been.

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>>383990834
Ico/Zelda were named the primary inspirations. King's Field was the original, but Miyazaki doesn't really give a fuck about KF and it's only with Dark Souls 2 that you saw the KF influences creep back in.

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>>383991009

Damn, that's some spooky ass shit in the top right.

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>>383988576
Go play Ultima Underworld (and then King's Field and Curse of Darkness), you ignorant.

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>>383990810
It can be handwaved by assuming the Demon's magic makes it super tough in order to make up for its brittleness. And iin terms of pure hardness, glass is harder than steel.

Besides, the heart expands and leaves the Demon's essence exposed.

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>>383991708
where are these from?

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>>383991771
>>383991708
Design docs for the game from the artist's website
http://jasonwilson-folio.blogspot.com/p/art-and-game-design-medievil.html
Take a look through that it's a good read

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>>383991835
shit forgot the next pic

>>383991835
thanks man

>>383990491
Wasn't it horsefucking? Or maybe a donkey, don't really remember.

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>>383991908
No prob my dude

>>383988665
Second post - best post. I believe Vagrant Story could have inspired Souls games more than MediEvil

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MediEvil was the shit, but this was my jam.

>>383991958
This is cool shit. Thanks

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>>383991983
Yes, this and MediEvil are fucking great. Oh w8 that's not Tomba 2 nvm then

>>383991913
I'm pretty sure it's sheepfucking, the sound of the bleating before he says "Oooooh... Oh, not now" is as firmly embedded in my mind as how hard I laughed after I heard it.

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>>383988662
>thump thump thump thump
>CRASH
Every time it scared me.

>>383992050
Tombi 1 was miles better m8

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>>383992053
Yeap, my bad, went back and checked a vid of the fight.

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>>383992258
And that's what I got in the folder but you can find a lot more at >>383991835
I'll post memes, other art stuff

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Why did they change the theme from the Demo?
Crystal Caves was the best.
https://youtu.be/tifnGu62R98

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>>383992381
Are PS1 renders up to par in quality with modern games, polycount wise?

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>>383992381
This is the Japanese box art. They thought Dan looked too scary so they made him more cute looking and gave him a helmet that he wears in all the cutscenes and can even be taken on and off in game

>>383992449
I'm pretty sure modern games with realtime rendering surpassed most ps1 FMVs like five years ago or something

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>>383992497
I'm not an expert on that stuff but I think even back then, these sorts of renders had smaller polycounts and relied more on the textures and other effects if anything

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>>383992326
Thaks for that concept art dump. My favourtie enemies were the dark gargoyles that killed people in a cutscene or you had to rescue, cant remember

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>>383992050
Tombi > Tombi 2 all day erry day my good chum

>>383992053
I'll forever have that "Bugger!" stuck in my head. It's delivered so perfectly.

>>383988662
Lovecraftian af

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>>383992759
Yup that's from the Abandoned Castle level. There are villagers tied over fire and you have to put out the flames and activate a switch to release them. But once you do that the shadow demons come out and you have to kill them before they get to the villagers. If one of them dies you won't be able to get the chalice in the level.

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>>383988662
Does anyone else remember this on the Pizza Hut PS1 Demo?
Played this shit and Metal Gear Solid over & over again all throughout my sophomore year.

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>>383992864

>tfw one of the main creators used to post on a fan-site circa early 00's
>he even laid out what Medievil 3 was supposed to be, but it was ultimately cancelled
>says he's fine with sharing the information, but doesn't want it to go really mainstream

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

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>>383992497
>uuuuugu kawai desu ne~
o tempora o mores

>>383992572
If I remember correctly, the worm in Dan's head appeared at one cutscene and at level that was cut. The one where the dragon chases him. Was it just changed to a cutscene? Where the worm is there just with no reason and then never appeared again?

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>>383992974
Yup, still have the disc somewhere played it for as long as I can remember
I'm >>383989414 this anon, I love MediEvil. It may not be perfect to everybody but it's basically a masterpiece to me. It's pretty much the thing that got me into stuff like Demon's Souls and Berserk and the like, the guys who made this game knew what they were doing.

>>383992864
Yeah, that was hard. I was scared of those monsters as a kid. In general, Medievil is very dark and lugubrious, and some parts were frightening... Now it all looks awesome, with really cool desings. medievil 3 when

can i emulate this properly?

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Look at these groovy motherfuckers.

>>383993175
Yeah, PS1 emulation is pretty smooth.

>>383988576
prolly. Very good game

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>>383993034
Pretty much. There is a trailer somewhere on youtube showing the dragon chase originally being a level in the game but I believe it was cut because the devs didn't know how to make the level fun or interesting without it being Crash Bandicoot Boulder level but with a dragon

>>383993223
s1ck, time to rev up that ePSXe

>>383993034
I swear to god he uses the worm to unlock the Asylum. I distinctly remember that happening.

>>383993223
THEY'RE ALL WHITE MALES

>>383993097
2's art direction was awful though

>>383993009
Found it, it was the lead artist sharing some info, it was supposed to be themed after an ice lord freezing everything

http://sirdanielfortesque.proboards.com/thread/460

>>383988576
I was really young when i first played this my uncle rented it from the video store and i was scared as fuck of it. When he left i had it for the week or so and maybe played it once because it was too scary lol

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>>383993253
Oh I only posted that particular image because it was the next one in my folder.

Yeah while I think MediEvil is 10/10 MediEvil 2 was something else. I enjoyed it when I was younger but replaying it recently made me realize there were way too many issues with it
Even the way Dan looks kind of bothers me now

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>>383993223
>tfw actual female devs and not gaymur geerlz
Daily reminder that Dan would be a trans skelly of colour in 2017

>>383993009
Is that the one where he claimed that they pitched a third game but it didn't go through? Something about it being called "Game of Bones" and the entire world is basically covered in ice, and there's a heroic knight or something that is Sir Daniel's rival, and everyone forgot his achievements except a few diehard fans

>>383990718
I never played any previous MediEvil games, but enjoyed Resurrection. Granted, I was around 13 and my cousin didn't have many other psp games.

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>>383988576
>MediEvil 1998
>King's Field 1994

>Now tell me this game wasn't the main inspiration for the Souls series
this game wasn't the main inspiration for the Souls series

I love both MediEvil and MediEvil Resurrection but I have never played MediEvil 2. Should I?

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>>383993395
Oh jeez and just looking at the render I posted looks so mediocre. It somehow looks worse compared to the first game.
Then again MediEvil 2 didn't have a good development cycle apparently. The creators didn't even want to make a second one which was why the original game ends on a closed note with Dan being accepted into the Hall of Heroes and earning his rest. But the game sold well enough Sony told them to make another one. I believe the artist was the only returning member of the team, the rest of the dev team was either interns or new people brought in for Sony Cambridge. The fact that the game feels really lacking in a lot of areas is very telling of what probably happened during its development.

>>383993563
King's Field was absolute garbage, not even in the same ballpark as MediEvil.

>>383993574
Yes. Give it a shot. It's very subjective to whether one likes it better than 1 or not.

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>>383993574
>>383993605
Only if you're willing to look past it's flaws. It's certainly better than Resurrection at the very least.

>>383993667
That wasn't the argument, King's Field was made by the same company, dude.

>>383993574
Yes.

>>383993667
You take that back. Unless you're talking about the first King's Field from 1994, that was only released in Japan. It's pretty shitty. But the Western released KF2 is a good game.

>>383993395
I think 2 is maybe more "mainstream" version, made to be more kid friendly. It does have similar feel to the first one but it's not as weird.

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>>383993414
>tfw
rattle me bones

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>>383993727
KF1 is fiiiiine. It's like a 90 minute long strafefest.

>>383993395
What the hell? MediEvil was the first game I ever had on PS1, I played it quite a lot, but never played 2. I always saw it at stores and thought it looked dope, with guns and boxing(?) and stuff. Never saw anything of it other than the back of the box though, did it really look like that? Those two other characters look terrible.

>>383989836
I had that blue and black demo disc that had both of them but you had to speedrun to complete those sides because the game was on a timer.

>>383993794
It has boring linear level design and not the best graphics. I know that west released KF doesn't look much better, but it has its charm

>>383993829
It's a CG render, man. Ingame ones are still origami.

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>>383988576
It wasn't, Kingsfield was. MediEvil was 3D Ghosts and Goblins before the actual 3D Ghosts and Goblins (Maximo)

>>383993908
No, I mean design-wise. They look really dumb.

MediEvil = Demon's Souls
MediEvil 2 = Bloodborne

You literally can't prove me wrong

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>>383993829
>>383993698
It is a pretty dope game in its own right, just with issues regardless. There are some really cool levels like the Vampire Manor but then you get some "Oh shit Nigger What Are You Doing"-tier levels like Pumpkin Gardens

>>383993948
Oh, yeah, Medievil 2 was all about being "quirky". You know, it's fine, whatever, but most people prefer 1.

I do remember 2's villain having a great VA.

>>383993996
That's such a \weird comparison that I wouldn't know where to start.

>>383993996
Bloodborne is actually better than Demon's Souls, so your comparison is wrong.

>>383994049
No, it's not, not by a long shot.

>>383994041
>Medievil = undead sword and shield toting medieval knight collects souls
>Medievil 2 = undead knight collects souls in Victorian England with added gunplay

>>383994049
Leave

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>>383988576
Im so happy this board can produce good threads about nice games.

Post fav levels

For me it must be The Lake, because back at the time I was really afraid of deep water and the sinkhole made me shit myself

>>383994184
Guns in medievil doesn't act so different from MediEvil's bows and crossbows, while firearm in Bloodborne is an entirely new mechanic, it's not just a stylistic change.

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>>383994190
You're a true retrogamers my friends. Grass was greener in 2009.

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>>383994252
Gotta be Scarecrow Fields. Great atmosphere and level design.

>>383994252
I love the forest level, the ant hill level and the lake level where you have to freeze a vortex and to walk underwater

>>383994252
Ghost Ship and The Lake are the worst.

>Crystal Caves
>Enchanted Earth
>Sleeping Village

>>383988662
I want to see stained glass demon in modern graphics. The concept is so cool.

>>383994252
Asylum Grounds is GOAT

>>383994351
the only grass that was greener is the one you were smoking when you made that post
>>383994049

>>383994426
>>Sleeping Village
That's some atmospheric shit. Hell, this game is so atmospheric

>>383994514
I'm actually high on PCP, don't mix this shit with weed

>>383994425
I also love the maze level, solving puzzles was very interesting

>>383994426
>Ghost ship
Yeah sure
>The Lake
Nah man,lake was one of the best for me,pretty depressing, the other annoying level for me was the Sunken Village or whatever

>>383994252
>Im so happy this board can produce good threads about nice games.
MediEvil threads always pop out near Halloween too, gotta love how civil they are.

>>383994374
I still have nightmares about that place.

>>383994617
The Lake was technically horrible due to crap camera controls and those fucking forcefield chests that push you into the bog.

Lore-wise, I loved fighting other knights.

Return to the Graveyard was nice too.

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>>383994567
>PCP
you get high on PenisCumPads ?

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>tfw imp steals your magic sword in the crystal caves

I emulated the PS1 version recently. And while it was great fun the platforming aspects, in emulator at least, were ass and I couldn't keep going. Should I try it with PSP emulation?

>>383995072
Nah m8 git gud

>>383995072
Couldn't hurt? I haven't emulated it but I have heard that PSP emulation is near flawless.

>>383995249
Did PSP change much in controls?

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>>383988662
This is probably one of my favorite bosses in video games. He and the Count both are very memorable. Also his theme is amazing.

>>383995349
Sorry I'm not sure, only going off second hand info from here.

>that kid at school told me you could get into the pub in the sleeping village
If you're here Shaun I hope you die.

>>383995058
Just buy it back from the jew gargoyle.

>>383995478
Why is "that kid" everywhere in the world, no matter the era? Is it a constant of the universe?

>>383988576
Other than the medieval horror theme it's doesn't have much else in common with Souls. That being said it does have a similar fanbase.

>>383995516
>4000gold IIRC
Greedy fucks.

>>383995561
I don't know, but he can't keep getting away with it.

>>383995516
Do they pay imps to steal your shit and then sell it to you back?

>>383995561
Mostly likely he lacked attention, so he started to lie to get attention from people. Lots of kids are like this.

>>383995369
The Count was a fucking amazing boss

>>383995635
>>383995516
Not like you were ever short on gold. Once you got the hammer all you had to buy from the gargoyles were arrows

>>383995698
>Do they pay imps to steal your shit and then sell it to you back?
Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

>>383995072
Did you use a keyboard or controller?
On a controller it should be fine for the most part. Dan can walk, kinda like Lara in Tomb Raider - no idea if he stops at the edge but using the dpad + L1 I think or R1 makes him walk/sidestep.

Remember that dick ass dragon armor with the flame breath attack?

>>383995976
I remembered it the first time I got the Dragon Head Stone in Dark Souls

>>383996046
You know... I'm starting to think a lot of shit in Souls games was inspired by Medievil.

Remember when they teased a new MediEvil game in PSASBR?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAEGu72CS5o

>>383996130
Dark Souls was more or less based on Medievil.
Life bottles = Estus (albeit had to be used rather than passive)
same weapons except "muh anime giant weapons". Bows just fired different arrows in both games (a fire longbow was a longbow with fire arrows for example.
Had to repair stuff in both games. Had to explore to find items to upgrade more items (titanite/hall of heroes), both undead knights who wanted only to be at peace, etc.

>>383996314
Move over Soulslikes, wheres the SirDanlikes.

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>>383988662
>that fucking music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjgaiQvWC_Y

>>383996314
And when you kill mobs souls fly out of them

>medievil 2 100% ending
>dan is transported with kiya into the past and zarok attacks them
>medievil 2 any%
>dan is laid to rest with kiya forever
what did they mean by this?

>>383994252
Hilltop Mausoleum, Scarecrow Fields or the town with all the fucked up people. I forget the name.

I wasn't a big fan of the pirate ship because it totally fucked me as a kid.

Medievil was the shit back when I was a kid. It spooked me a bit, but I loved it anyway. Makes me wish there was a new game. A modern Medievil game would work pretty well. Of course the idea in my head is perfect, but if they'd actually do a modern Medievil it would probably be very different.

But one can dream.

>>383996949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd80uokktUY
Have you seen this? I think I want a modern Medievil more than I want any other game desu.

I remember being retarded as a kid and not being able to figure out the shipyard level in Medieval 2, the one where Dan gets his head stolen by a crow. I literally brute forced a jump you clearly weren't intended to make for like 3 hours until it worked.

>>383997331
Holy shit that's awesome, looks like Bloodborne

I loved the Hall of Heroes. The whole place was so comfy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k55XINYFpyA

>>383996615
Time is a closed loop in the Medievil universe?

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>>383996314
There's literally nothing unique in everything you mentioned. It's just a standart fantasy things, and comparing Estus to Life Bottles is silly, it's different things.

Miyazaki and the entire From Software team are huge westaboo nerds. Miyazaki is hugely inspired by Dungeon And Dragons, Dragon Pass and other early fantasy board games. Not by Berserk as many like to state - he couldn't read it until he became a student, because his family was poor and he had to read books and play fantasy roleplaying boardgames at the local library.

MediEvil devs are huge nerds too, and inspired with similiar things (though I doubt Miyazaki listens to goth music)

>>383997794
>Not by Berserk as many like to state
So many goddamn references though. He loves those references. It's honestly boring.

>>383988662
>DSP vs. The Looking Glass Knight, part 200

>>383997331
I want this so bad but it makes me sad because Sony barely gives the series any credit.

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>tfw named every single warrior or paladin character in all the rpgs i played "fortesque"

>>383989261
I shouldn't bite but fuck man. I wouldn't mind the psp remake but the sole fact they introduced two handed weapons just pissed me off too much. Some of the new levels were okay, like that pirate town one, unless I'm remembering wrong, and that mini game arena was fun to screw with BUT I CAN NOT GET OVER THE FACT THEY EXPECT ME TO USE THE GOD DAMN BROADSWOARD OR WARHAMMER WITH NO FUCKING SHIELD I'm sorry but it's too far gone for my liking. I'd rather play the second game over the remake myself.

>>383998118
Berserk was his late inspiration. I also love that everything he takes from Berserk is just a visual clues. The meaning, the stories, characters - everything is different, as Berserk took standart Dark Fantasy and twisted it into something new, so is Miyazaki created his own world building technics, which I adore. Medievil was one of my favorite games when I was a kid, but Dark Souls rekindled my love to video games when I was an adult, and I am forever grateful for that.

>>383997413
I was so retarded I didn't know I had to move the pointer diagonally on the map so I couldn't leave the first level.
Had to call my uncle who bought me the game to ask him why he gave me a demo.

>>383993223
You can tell that they loved their work. Besides - many of them look like goths or parts of the heavy metal crowd. One guy has a Sandman t-shirt, so clearly a fan of comic books.

>>383988576
It wasn't, Xanadu Next was.

What did happen to Mr. Apple?

>>383997331
I did see this, and it made me sad to find out it wasn't a real thing. This is what I imagined a modern Medievil would look like.

One of my favourite franchises. The only franchise without a mediocre or terrible game.

Why are there so few traditional Halloween games like this? Pumpkins, circuses, etc.? I absolutely love them.

>>383997331
I'd love one too, but would have no faith in it. Even with this, I absolutely hate the lighting.

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>yfw ant caves

>>383999932
>Pumpkins, circuses
reeee stop talking about medievil 2

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>>383988662
GIVE ME A REMAKE OR A REMASTER

>>384000769
I loved the pumpkin levels, they scared the shit out of 7 year old me. Not such a fan of the circus levels though.

>>383997331
I'd hate the remake if it would look like that. Art style for Medievil should be stylistic and resemble Nightmare Before Christmas.