Is overconfidence really a slow and insidious killer?

>>383986360
Remember how quickly the tide can turn.

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>>383986407

Today, I will remind them.

No, but RNG is.

BABY YOU GOTTA GO

>>383986360
No, it's actually a pretty quick killer.
Many a death have happened after someone saying "dont worry, I'm a professional".

>>383986360
As long as it doesn't precipitate a dizzying fall

>>383986360
Yes.

>being up 3 points to 1 is the most dangerous lead

>>383986360
Depends. Is it a dizzying blow to body AND brain?

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>>383988983
Indeed. Mortality was clarified in a single blow.

Aren't all houses stoic?

>>383986360
overconfidence is a weapon that cuts on its own

This game is more impossible than FTL

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>>383987026
Long live the RNG god.

>>383990638
>Tfw Jester is a piece of shit now thanks to latest patch

Meh, time to stick to Highwayman, I guess

>>383986360
Yes
>Played Xenoverse 2 PvP
>farming wins off one player to raise my shit 30% win rate
>decide to let him bring my health down to half so he doesn't rage quit due to not hitting me once
>manages to beat me
>player leaves after finally getting a win

>>383989708
I giggled like a madman

>>383986360
is the addon any good?

I heard they reduced the grind with a new game mode as well, might get back into it because of it

>>383990789
Still has good bleeds and excellent stress heals.

>>383989974
Probably because DD has more RNG than FTL

>>383986360
Best party to level 5 Drowned Crew?

>>383989708
Maybe she should have used her dodge for something.

>>383989708
>>383990983
I love the graverobber backstory

>>383990983
>Tfw when a bloodletter managed to fucking crit my ~90 dodge GR

>>383990932
Radiant mode is actually enjoyable, cuts down on significant grinding. Can't speak on the dlc quality. I assume it's full of things that are designed to fuck you, like everything is.

>>383991061
And I feel bad for the Highwayman. But at the same time it's fun to think Dismas killed Reynauld's wife and son.

>>383990964
Anything that can get to him. Though you probably either want a Bounty Hunter or an Occultist with move trinkets to make the fight a joke.

>>383991123
13 minutes till the torrent is done

yohohoho

>>383986360
no such thing as overconfidence.

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Remember /v/

>>383986360
no idea about overconfident.
but having low self esteem fucked me over plenty of times in real life.
I hate being myself.

>>383991602
that was 3 days ago

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6MlEfXGL9M

Is he right?

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>Ambushed in Cove while camping
>4 spear & sword assholes
>Two crits in the opening attacks
>Plague doctor dead instantly

The RNG on this game isn't actually that bad (plenty of times where I survived shit I had no right to), and it is a fun game, but there are times where it's really hard to remember that fact.

>>383991703
>the one nigger who could
I swear, we could turn all the deserts of the world into blooming gardens if we actually cared

How expensive are the upgrades in Courtyard?

>>383991778
>Not running prevent nighttime ambush
You walked right into it.

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>>383991778
>First battle of expedition
>First two enemy attacks are crits on my abomination
>He gets blighted
>Dies due to said blight before I'm able to do anything

He survived the Darkest Dungeon too. I haven't gone back to that save since it happened.

>>383991703
The only thing is when it matters most you'll have bosses who scramble your team and send the Leper all the way to position 4.

Man, this game. The difficulty or RNG aren't even that bad. It's the terrible grind. Takes billions of years to upgrade just the guild and the blacksmith, let alone the entire hamlet.

>>383991083
>only 90

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>>383991941
You're not wrong

>>383992315
That's why they added the radiant mode, it cuts down the grinding significantly

>>383992441
How so? Does it reduce the upgrade costs of town facilities, hero skills and equipment? Anyway, that's not the kind of game I'm willing to play on easy mode.

>>383991703
He is right. Leper is straight out worse than most other classes. He only hits the front line and cares for himself. In general the Hellion is a superior front liner due to double stun along with being able to hit all four enemy ranks. Man at Arms can protect people, shuffle to the front while stunning and disrupting enemy formation, and has more reach. Crusader can stress heal, stun, and can hit the back ranks and move up due to holy lance. Bounty Hunter has two stun skills, is very flexible in where he can be, and does a bunch of damage to marked targets.

>>383992552
>Does it reduce the upgrade costs of town facilities, hero skills and equipment?
Yes, and some level restrictions. Level 3's can go to apprentice dungeons and level 5's can go into veteran dungeons.

If confidence surges as the enemy crumbles and overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer, does that mean that the enemy crumbling is a slow and insidious killer?

>>383992603
leper is better than arbalest at least

>>383992685
Arbalest can:
>move around
>hit all enemy positions
>heal other characters

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>>383992685
No. If she hits a marked target she gets insane crit modifiers and damage modifiers. She can be shuffled to the front and still use an attack skill AND it buffs her speed. Battle field bandage is a great quick heal skill along with adding on a more potent healing buff on the character.

>>383992748
the heal is shit, the damage isn't better than a graverobber or highwayman, and she's shit vs rank 1

>>383992919
The heal is better than Graverobber and Highwayman's NO HEAL, and rank 1 is the least important rank to kill.

>>383992917
>If she hits a marked target
this significantly cuts down the number of attacks you're putting out. and non-joke bosses have multiple turns, dividing your mark/debuff duration in 2 or 3

>>383986360
It should be a quick killer tbqh. You know what over confidence causes? Accidents and shit, and accidents are quick death.

>>383993020
What are you on about, Mark teams are a classic, consistently good on all patches.
Look at this screenshot, these guys all have either marks, or do bonus damage to marked. They have heal, stress heal, stun, crazy damage, AoE... Solid lineup.

>>383992919
>the heal is shit
A consistent heal that can be slightly lower than a Vestals and gets more potent after every use and be welcomed in a clutched situation by a guy getting critted and your healer applying a heal on top of the Arbalest heal buff? Are you crazy? I don't see why you are even comparing her to the Highwayman or Grave Robber. Grave Robber wants to be in the middle, the Highwayman wants to be in the front. The Arbalest wants to be in the back and is tanky compared to the other two.

Is it possible to do one class only run?

>>383993032
You know what over confidence causes? Thinking you can summon a Shambler here, the team health is high, we still have 2 slots in the inventory, we can do it before we head home.

>arbalest
>good

>>383993020
>this significantly cuts down the number of attacks you're putting out
If you run a mark party I don't think you are minding an Occultist missing his attack by marking someone due to his high speed.

>>383993118
I did some runs with 4 Man at Arms before the riposte nerfs.

>>383993118
>the_last_crusade.png

>>383993118
yes, plague doctor only

>>383993118
It's possible to completely fuck over Necromancers using only Crusaders: the only problem is getting to them.

>>383993109
>Arbalest
>tanky

arbalest can't dodge for shit

and I'm comparing her to those two because they do ranged damage and hit everything but are not trash

>>383993209
>>383993259
Man 4 Crusader sounds fun, I guess I will give it a try

>>383993262
She has 55 HP fully upgraded. A Man at Arms has 59 HP fully upgraded and he is considered a tank. Compared to 43 HP of the Highwayman or 36 HP of the Grave Robber, yes, yes the Arbalest is tanky.

>>383992650
If the enemy is crumbling slowly, it means they are grinding you to death via stress and attrition so yeah

>>383993262
>dodge
>good stat
Enemy accuracy increases much faster than your people's dodge, enemies will always have near 90% to hit (the max amount) unless you are specifically stacking dodge, which means you aren't taking damage or crit. And you wouldn't do that on any of the three characters discussed.
So in actual hard dungeons, Arbalest, Graverobber and Highwayman have the same 10% (minimum amount) chance to dodge.

>>383989708
Literally happened to me twice during my 4 hour session, so the meme is true

>>383990932
What's the new addon that reduces grinding? Love the game but the constant grinding is turn off.

>>383993118
There can also be a Hound Master only run as well.

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>>383993537
>And you wouldn't do that on any of the three characters discussed

but I always stack dodge on my entire party. why would I ever not?

>>383991167
>And I feel bad for the Highwayman.

Of all the recruits he and the Bounty Hunter lost the least, they were just pieces of shit that one day incidentally looked in the mirror.

>>383993679
Because you could be stunning instead.
Stunning a high priority target = 1/3 of enemy potential is out.
Meanwhile dodge buffing is less than 30% chance to avoid enemy attacks.

I mean, stun is objectively more damage avoidance than dodge buff, and MAA has a good stun, why waste a turn buffing?

>>383993740
He is Indian you dumb ass.

>>383993636
addon is seperate, grinding was reduced in a patch

>>383993762
it's objectively not

>less than 30% chance

trinkets nigga

>>383993118
4 bounty hunters is a pretty funny party.

When the game first game out 4 Hellions was actually one the best teams in the game before breakthrough was nerfed.

>>383993537
>Enemy accuracy increases much faster than your people's dodge
That's like the only thing I found to be untrue about progressing through the game. Their dodge, damage, prot and resistance all increase by a lot from apprentice to veteran to champion. But their accuracy does not. I'm dodging way more on champion quests with upgraded armor and especially buffs than I were at the start of the game. I guess it's in line with the game's whole gambling theme, so dodge tanking outclasses prot tanking by far.

>>383993821
Taking dodge trinkets means you aren't taking damage trinkets, means the fight lasts longer, means the enemy has more chances to hit you, so even with a higher percentage you end up suffering more hits, and stress, over the course of the dungeon.
While stunning you can also choose which attack to avoid, dodging is random, you can dodge a shitty skeleton hit, and get devastated by some stress+mark hit.

Stun > dodge for damage avoidance. It avoids more, and you can select what to avoid.

>>383992748
Pffffhahahahahahhaha
She's literally carrying Swine Prince or any boss fight where the boss is on the back row

>>383993762
30% chance to completely ignore all the damage, statuses and debuffs all the enemies in the counter throw at you is huge. And it lasts for more than one round and doesn't have diminishing returns like stun.

>>383993919
>While stunning you can also choose which attack to avoid

yeah, which of the 4 attacks. and then on the next turn you can choose a different one because their resistance, or probably fail the stun

most damage trinkets have retarded downsides as far as I can tell, except some of the very high tier ones

>>383994039
That anon is right about one thing at least. Damage stacking is good for you. The best way to mitigate damage is not stun or dodge, but eliminating the enemy asap.

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>>383986360

It's more akin to a flimsy shield.

>>383989586
>>383989285
Lost on these. Also, Reynauld is such a bro.
My only 5 lvl hero currently

>>383994039
>most damage trinkets have retarded downsides as far as I can tell
Sun and Moon Ring's down side is 10% stress. That is nothing compared to 15/20% damage and +10/15 accuracy. Berserk Mask is 15% damage, THREE SPEED, 15% stress, -5 accuracy, -10% virtue chance. Then you have some lower tier ones like damage stones that give 10% damage and -4 dodge or warrior's bracer with 15% damage on melee skills and -4 dodge. Then there are the slayer rings that give 25% damage to certain enemy type and -2 dodge.

Those are all really good, especially the sun/moon rings and there should be no reason to why you shouldn't use the rings due to the damage and accuracy bonuses.

>>383994126
I am that anon arguing for stun over dodge, and I don't think you have to eliminate the enemy ASAP.
I think you have to eliminate SOME enemies ASAP, specific high priority targets. Then you keep the low priority targets for a couple of rounds, so you can get heals and stress heals off.

My ideal fight is I kill the back rows in 1-3 rounds, then heal and stress heal while stunning the front rows, then kill the front rows. They are harmless enough to keep for a while, usually.

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>>383994291
>DD4
>Everyone targets Reynauld dumping stress on him bringing him to 100 stress
>Anger is power. UNLEASH IT!
>Double buffing my party giving them 30% damage
>Delivering the killing blow to save Dismas who was on the brink of a heart attack
You did good.

>>383990932
>I heard they reduced the grind with a new game mode as well
I do not find that to be true, all it does is level your guys very fast and you can't keep up with heirlooms or gold to upgrade so they're high lvl, but not really since they don't have the gear or skills.

>>383994357
>not camouflage cloak + sun cloak on everyone

I don't like how there's no way to increase blight/bleed damage with trinkets or whatever. all the dudes I like have that shit, it feels like +damage is only benefitting them half as much as characters with damage-only attacks

>>383994357
>>383994554
>not bringing +scouting +surprise -ambush trinkets

cucks
i put +healing on the healer, +speed on whoever i want to always act first, and the rest bring scouting if possible

>>383994554
Yeah, I like acting before the enemy does.

>>383994381
In my experience with this game so far, I noticed that I almost never can outheal the damage that is done to the part, even using the dedicated healing classes with specialized trinkets. And it's, again, in line with the game's design - every quest is an uphill battle, tarrying for too long by either sidetracking for loot or stalling in battle, usually results in your party bleeding even more health before you fulfill the quest objective.

>>383994605
I usually bring both a scouting stone and ancestors map. If I have a Hound Master I would bring his whistle as well.

*Snort*

>>383994671
*snorts virtuously*

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>>383994459
> Reynauld carrying the dying party
Happened to me either

>>383994720
Yeah, shame on people who get rid of him due to his kleptomania. He is a true warrior of light. A man of honor. He will always pull through.

>>383994647
Scouting is too good not to bring, I feel.

Also, I haven't finished the game yet, I have 2 more Darkest Dungeons runs to do, but I am bored of endgame. I want to start a new estate and do the initial hobo phase, where you can't optimize and you have to deal with what you get. I like that earlier phase of games.

However, in games like Civilization and Mount&Blade this leads to me constantly restarting, and only playing the first stages of a game, quitting when I get into "late game". I am not sure I want to do this to Darkest Dungeons too, it was meant to be my recovery game, the game that made me finish games again.

What do?

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>>383993403

>>383991703
I'll just leave this here lactual spoilers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGsTZtH8308

>>383989974
I beat Stygian mode in 40 weeks the other day, game is fine

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>>383994671

>>383994927
Does he snort if the last boss selects him to be a martyr?

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>>383986360
>tfw creeping up on 300 hours

>>383994776
> kleptomania
> Curiosity
God this shit was annoying. Cured him tho when the hospital was free

>>383994289
Zenyatta's resolve is tested

>ABUSIVE

The iris and all of you can sod off!

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Leper is UNDERrated

Revenge is UNDERrated

Leper & Plague Doctor were made for each other

How to git gud at darkest dungeon

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>>383994848
>I stop to open my calculator

Redpill me on the bountyhunter.
Does he have some traumatic backstory that drove him to the hamlet or was it merely the promise of payment?

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>>383994927
>>383994982
> BH wiping of his sweat
> you can see a goatee under his helmet
The moment of truth.

>>383993779
Isn't he literally based of the mad Arab from lovecrafts books?

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>>383994927
Someone should finish this

Chris should finish this.

I love Antiquarian!

In all seriousness tho' she's pretty great as support goes. She really helped me out with the Siren bossfight as she kept getting lured over and casting protect me! on the siren.

BH caltrops is actually pretty based. took a while to kill a boss with it, but the boss being unable to hit anything made it pretty simple

>>383994982
Not exactly, but he has the equally quiet reaction of
"...Hm."

>>383995260
so expensive though!

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>>383994982

>>383994848
Apparently he had to make up a back up save and took him ten tries. The other video still stands. I still use Lepers but they really get overshadowed by other front liners.

>>383995608
not nearly as much as the money you lose by not curing it

>>383995608
It should be the first thing you do once you gain access to the sanitarium.

>>383986360
Every time I play a video game and I find it's too easy I just completely stop giving any effort and start dying all the time. So clearly it's not a slow, but instead an extremely fast killer.

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>>383995374
>using revenge instead of withstand and solidarity

>>383995483
It's never really said. If I had to guess, I doubt anyone would stick around for just coin, though. Maybe he trying to prove something?

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>>383994848
Who would win, the gestating progenitor god of all life on earth, or a drugged up Leper with a lust for revenge?

>>383995374
>>383995987
>wasting turns trying to make the Leper as good as the Crusader/Hellion/Abom instead of just using those classes

>Vestal
>Bounty Hunter
>Flagellant
>Hellion
>Jester
>Houndmaster
>Plague Doctor
What is their backstory?

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Guys a word of advice, avoid dark runs. Less than 25 is okay but avoid going around at 0 lest you want to face a shambler

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>>383995987
>playing defensively

Might as well bring two Vestals and a Man At Arms along too anon, just in case!

>>383995483
Probably *Really* needs the money

>>383996460
No, crave the void. Those ancestral trinkets aren't going to find themselves.

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>>383996589
but i already have the candle

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>>383996539
>Not stress healing

>>383996239
Hellion is overated

>muh Iron Swan

Hellion pleases old men for money

>>383996617
Do you have the map?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMXy3mYzkws
Is this the best track in the entire game ?
>those eerie violins
>that dark segment

>>383996642
>Muh Iron Swan
>Muh Bleed Out
>Muh Wicked Hack
>Muh YAWP!
Oh wait, seems like an excellent class.

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>>383996618
>needing to stress heal

>>383996296
>Dragged off to the church and not allowed to have sex (presumably just uses the brothel to cuddle)
>Unknown (might just want to get paid)
>Believes that throwing himself at dangerous shit is part of his punishment
>Exiled from tribe, fights because it's all she's ever known
>Unknown (might just be nuts)
>Became disillusioned with the courts, wants to make his own justice in the estate
>Thinks that the eldritch powers could help her research, if she can get samples

>>383996654
I'm only missing tentacle idol, not worth the risk imo

>>383996676
TIME'S UP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma-WJUidpRU

>>383996713
Crits happen.

>>383995483
He came to *snort* at you

>>383993118
4 doggo works, stun trinkets on the front 2, damage trinkets and stress heal on the back 2. But you occasionally have to switch rank 1 and 2 so the guy starting in 1 can lick his junk while new 1 stuns the last guy.

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>>383995483
hmph

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>>383996676
>>383996739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsW72KIOd8U

Rend for the NEW god

Is the Flaggelent as OP as he seems? I literally can't justify NOT using him everywhere but Ruins.

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>>383995560
Not to mention, you get mad amounts of cash if you take her on runs

>That increased gold stack
>Those idols

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>>383995987

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Moon Man hero mod when?

Refuses to party up with the Occ and Arby

>>383995483
family/relatives got killed by bandits,
so he went and bashed the crime lord's head in and collected his teeth, now he roams as a bounty hunter since he has nothing left.

>>383994776
>Let Reynauld chill in town fucking villagers on week 3-5 or until whenever Sanitarium opens
>Cure Kleptomania before it locks in
Shits not hard, and it's what I do every time.

>>383995793
Lepers are actually solid as long as you can get a decent acc buff trinket or two. High damage and high durability. Hard to ask for more from the front position. Sure, I still prefer hellion most of the time, but Leper isn't bad at all.

>>383996239
Abom is a subpar Plague Doctor and a subpar Leper pressed together and a meme, with a good heal added as a consolation.

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>>383996642
>Hellion doesn't please you for money

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>>383986360

>>383996296
>implied to be one of the worst of her sisters, least pious and probably secretly a whore. Got physically abused a lot
>Hm...
>Says it on the tin
>Tribal exile
>Poisoned a tyrant king, possibly on the run
>Left his city after seeing how corrupt the other lawmen were
>Wants a place where she can experiment on people/things without the university stopping her

>>383997252
You know what my Abomination can do what the Leper can't?

Hit the Hag.

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>>383997389
unpost this

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>>383997330
I mean, it's not wrong.

>>383997330
Did nothing wrong.

>>383997252
Abom isn't a subpar PD, more like a sidegrade PD with
>position 3/2/1 instead of 4/3
>more health
>swap DoTheal for self heal+antistress (as good as both a vestal and jester put together)
>swap best stun AoE in the game for hardest hitting stun in the game
>a slightly more awkward blightbomb
>a panic button that turns him into the crusader but also the fastest hero in the game

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>>383996539
>not playing defensively
vestal - anti - hwm - maa is the most fun comp in the game

>>383997330
>Just use his money for whores and parties
Is this the better alternative?
>Darkest Dungeon Alternative
>You're a rich man with tons of gold and treasures
>Build your dungeon and lure adventurers in!
>Charge the adventurers with fee to the dungeon then set up traps, hire mercenaries, thugs, bandits, raise dogs, beasts, maggots, whatever lovecraft and put your treasures at the last room
>More dead adventurers means less people interested in your dungeon, more success adventurers means more people want to have a piece
>Capture female adventurers for your pleasure and sacrifice them to the great tentacles
>After some time you will become the dungeon itself and must defeat high level warriors come to shut down your dungeon

Aww fuck I need to get back into this.

>tfw Cove levels
How the fuck do I do it?

>>383998236
PD - Occ - frontliner - frontliner
Bring laudanum if on champ
There, done

>>383998236
Plague Doctor or a ton of bandages.

>>383990951
>Excellent stress heals
>Has one stress heal
>It's alright

Lying is not okay.

>>383998236
Blight everything. Bring bandages.

>>383998189
Asymmetrical pvp could be a good fit for Darkest Dungeon; one player is the heroes, the other is a dungeon keeper that can take control of the weaker mobs. A map editor and chalice glyph system for sharing them would be nice too

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>>383995556

>>383998348
It doesn't cause stress to himself or anyone else, it is a high single targeted stress heal, and it buffs the character reducing incoming stress. That is a top tier stress heal.

>>383998289
>>383998307
>>383998420
Thanks, fellas.

So what's the Flagellant's backstory? His CC trinkets don't really tell you anything about him that we don't already know, unlike every other hero.

>>383998521
Yeah, but it doesn't do anything else. Most other stress healers, even the really shitty crusader one still at least removes you from death's door and recovers some light, and the beastmaster's stress heal might not put on a stress% buff later, but heals the same amount of stress on two targets, literally twice as good.

Not to mention any turn you're spending healing stress with a Jester, you're not shuffling, and you should ALWAYS be shuffling. They gave a top teir stress heal to perhaps one of the only classes that can't work it into their build.

What's the normal party composition if I want to use the Jester finale meme?

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>I see you don't have a MaA to protect your first two rows...

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>>383998691
You don't always need to shuffle around. You can bleed enemies and stress heal when needed. The Hound Master is good but his stress heal is very unreliable. Crusader is good but his stress heal isn't as powerful as the Jesters.

>>383998707
Depends if it is nerfed or unnerfed finale.

>>383998730
Leper can survive that. Based Leper, best HP pool, best character.

>>383986360
Over confidence is not slow its as fast as your next fight

>>383998730
Yeah, I will just weakening curse them.

>>383992919
If you stack the increased healing buff before the fight ends you can basically get 1/4 of life for each unit of food eaten.

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>>383998730
>intimidates you

>There are uncultured savages that don't like the Occultist

>>383998876
I guess that is where all his use went, because he sure can't deliver hits.

>>383999209
Occultist is nice, but can someone redpill me on the Antiquarian?

It's just a class you take along to make your journey harder, right?

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IT'S OVER, LOW STRESS, I HAVE THE HIGH SPEED.

>>383999496
It's the class for gold farming. Interact with curios with her selected and she will loot some extra stuff. Plus, I think she can stack gold in larger amounts in every inventory slot. Also acts like a gimped support MAA by spamming dodge buff every turn.

>>383998857
>Depends if it is nerfed or unnerfed finale.
Unnerfed. I'm holding updates until I finish a run.

>>383986360
Not nearly as much as lack of confidence

>>383991703
>>383991796
His efforts are going to be destroyed and crops stolen (or destroyed too).

>>383999496
Antiquarian can get you lots of loot. If you interact with her on curios she can loot extra items and extra antiques only she can find. She can also stack up loot more in your inventory so you can end up carrying more.

Invigorating Vapors and Protect Me are both good skills.

>>383999608
>>383999670

She gets bonus shit from Curios? BULLSHIT. The game mentioned NONE of this, and I'm already getting ready to go into the Darkest Dungeon.

>>383999706
...

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>>383999579
pls no

>>383999613
Get the Jester as much speed as you can from quirks or trinkets, even if it is something like On Guard for first round speed. Put the Jester in the front with the best damage trinkets like the Moon Ring, Berserk Mask, or the Pen, then click on an enemy and either delete them or severely damage them.

Use herbs to take off the debuff if you are planning to rotate him back to the front row right away. I usually run Finale, Dirk Stab, Slice Off, and Inspiring Tune if I were to go for a Finale build.

>>383999706
*snort*

>>383999780
Dont get me wrong, I believe you, I'm just angry.

I know that the game expects me to learn a lot of the mechanics on my own, but this is just hilariously stupid. With such RNG based loot such as "light being low = high loot because ???" there would be almost no controlled point for anyone to learn that an Antiquarian gets bonus loot.

>>383999837
It doesn't.

>>383999579
You underestimate my stress heal.

>>383999875
You'd think by the end of the game you had her interact with a curio at least once, and noticed that gets you unique trinkets and baubles that you can't get any other way.

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>>383999921
>Maddening Whine
>CRIT
>Maddening Whine
>CRIT

>>383997389
But anon, the Leper is meant to oneshot the cauldron until he's the one who gets put in it in that fight

>>383990638
His name is Nuffle

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>>384000067
>Deafening Whine

>>384000018
No, see, that's what I've just been saying. The game is so RNG dependent that there's no possible fucking way that anyone who hasn't read online would notice that you're getting a bonus. Each package is always either complete shit, or a goldmine- even MORE random if it's dark. Normally, unless you're using a specific item (example: Using a shovel on a grave) there's never any example of the player getting an idea that whoever you're clicking on things mattering in the slightest, other than their potential resistances to fallback.

I know about the bonus trinkets and shit, but the just bonus loot thing I argue is ranged anywhere from unreasonable to impossible to be noticed.

>>384000067
I HATE YOU

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>>383986360
Not if you have a good team.

After all this time I started to really appreciate the DD's approach to visual storytelling.

>rend for the old gods
>rend for the NEW GOD

>>384000289
>crit 25%
(ONE) nothing wrong with me

>>384000289
Nice bait

>>384000289
>installing anything except for extra bg, clothing colors, or Geralt mods
Goddamn you a giant faggot

>>384000226
Why don't you come closer and say that to me.
Enraging Slight

>>384000289
It's not the same without the text.

>>384000289
I haven't played this game in a year
is it turning into anime

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>>384000342
What's wrong with 25% crit?

>>384000467
Using the skill that gives crit bonus with max level equipment is cheating, anon.

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>>383995462
>mfw it's real

>>384000417
Elusive exit

>>384000554
Naw I was just kidding. I don't know what those custom classes do outside of being over powered.

>>383995483
One of his afflicted barks says something along the lines of "bah! I could be pillaging towns right now" so I think >>383997134 is just headcanon. Sounds more like a former bandito trying to redeem himself. No official comics on him yet

>>384000289
After seeing this, I wonder. Does anybody else use mods? Or they just play vanilla?

>>384000289
>those classes
mods?

>>384000792
Vanilla, I've yet to kill all bosses and complete Darkest Dungeon, but the only way to do it is to fucking do it. None of that handholding shit, the law of probability ensures that I someday will finish it.

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>>384000389
My nigga

>>384000917
Damn, the artstyle is fucking on point.

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>>384000708

>>383991703
leper has to have ACC trinkets to be viable. Plus you need to have good quriks. He's got a niche viability as far as moveset goes, which doesn't bode well for him.

Should I play Dankest Dungeon? I played while it was in EA and got burnt out and never went back.

Never played it but know about vvulf

Are there any more events that potentially wreck your upgraded buildings?

>>384001070
Never played it but watch out for bird jew

>>384001070
No, but you can get an event with a crow stealing your trinkets. In the DLC you can get a guy that is out to burn vampires.

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>>384000961
But wait, there's more

>>384001000
Be that as it may, his final line before being chosen on the final fight cements him as my favorite character.

>>384001012
Yeah, it's pretty fun
The crimson curse is some bullshit though

>>384001012
You will burn out again.

The grind is still very obnoxious. You are still basically doing the same progression three times.

>>384001316
A lot of the characters have a real good line for that.
But I still don't know why every female hero, save for the Hellion, goes out like a coward.

>>384001623
because they're women
seriously

>>384001623
Antiquarian doesn't.

>>384001670
Oh, true.
I think I forgot because I've never brought her to the fight myself.

>>384001623
That's fitting for most of them.

Grave Robber wants to live big no matter the cost.

Plague Doctor wanted to defeat death by any means (which is hinted at in her set items).

Vestal went to the temple because she was thought that fucking girls is a sin (I think).

Arbalet saw her father die, and he wanted her to live.

>>384000461
Those are mods

>>384001316

>Spare the others. I am ready.

>>384001961
Vestal was raised in a temple, her sexual oppression made her commit some pretty sinful shit and she feels remorse for it

>>384001961
>>384002075
>vestal
wait what

comic where?

>>384002264
Set items from Crimson Curse kinda explain some of the characters' past.

>>384002341
>Flagellant gets a shard of glass and a broken tooth with "we're all falling apart" as flavour text
The fuck does that even mean?

>>384001961
I know, but it's still sad to see some of your favorite heroes go out so frightened.
But then again it is fitting, given what they are facing.

>>384002451
Fight Club reference.

>>383996676
Those fucking violins man

>crusader's CC trinkets are about forgetting his family.

So how is the crimson court?

Worth it or is it just more of the same?

>>384002508
Take note they are also usually the backline ones so it's not like they rip and tear shit everyday. Hellion does and she ain't no pussy. Nor did they get blown up by a fucking canon after getting stabbed so hard it made you mad enough to cut a head off with a mace before the eldtrich fun began.

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When should you take on the first Courtyard expedition?

>>384002892
The fights in the new dungeon are fucking rough. The curse adds something, but still leaves something to be desired. The flagellant is a great class.

>>384002935
Eh I took em on a level 2.

>>383995291

>Not "Pain is an excellent teacher."

>>384002807
where can I read the fluff text to these?

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>>383986360
Fuck man.. I just lost my favorite barbarian lady to Willbur (3 lvl). So upset.. She was the only warrior of that class in my town.. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>384003060
The wiki lists class specific trinkets along with the DLC's trinkets.

>>384003110
End this one

>>384002935
I've cleared it with a mixed group of lvl 1-2s so the first one isn't that bad. Honestly its more having a good comp and maybe waiting for a week when the reward gives you a CC trinket for a class who benefits from it or you want to use

>>384003060
https://www.reddit.com/r/darkestdungeon/comments/6iewh4/crimson_court_class_set_trinkets/

>>384003262
>reddit
thx anon

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>tfw lost Reynauld

>You will never be bros with the sodden crew and play vidya together

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>>384003313
>lost both Reynauld and Dismas
>From Beyond town event
>it makes me choose between them both

>>384003375
Don't pick either of them.

Let them rest.

Did Highwayman kill his own family, or did he kill the Crusader's?

The people in the locket look similar to the family from the Crusader's backstory comic.

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>>384003375
>>384003313
>tfw

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>>384003482
Yeah boi.

>>384003468
Neither, the crusader's family are peasants, they wouldn't be riding a fancy stagecoach. HWM was just remorseful he shot a woman and child.

>>384003482
kek, I lost Dismas like on 5th week

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>mfw just beat DD2 with three party members after losing my Flag healer on the FIRST templar fight

A MOMENT OF CLARITY IN THE EYE OF THE STORM

>>384004309
Damn, good on you for pulling through though.

>>384004476
zu zu?

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>"get first turn"

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>>384005084
>"SLAUGHTER ALL NIGGERS AND JEWS!"
What did they mean by this?

>>384005084
What does this guy say again?

So what does that Radiant mode do? Worth playing?

>>384006712
makes shorter grind. I prefer it to normal

>Baron quest in Crimson Court

Am I meant to do it all in one hit? I just went into the baron fight after stumbling through most of it, fucking around with the keys etc.

I lost two heroes to heart attacks, and my other 2 guys kept passing turns because Irrational etc. I read I could come back into the quest and not lose progress, is that how it works?

>>383986360
In my case it's been a swift and inescapable retribution.

>>383992919
>she is shit vs rank 1
who cares the most important enemies are in rank 3-4. And the important frontline enemies (Ghouls, Swinetaurs, Ucas) take 2 spaces

>>384007046
You could have pulled out of it at any time and keep all the progress while starting at the room you left the dungeon in. Did you seriously try to do it in one run?

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*blocks your path at the worst possible moment*
*drops nothing*

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>>384006046
YOUR WAIFU A SHIT

>>384007281
He's really easy tho'. I almost prefer him to a normal encounter.

>>384007332
he's easy until
>2 fucking dismas

>>384007281
He isn't that bad.
I often kill the guy before he can even use collect call

>>384007281
Anyone else keep the Vestal and MaA heads alive and spam heals and stress heals for 20 turns? One can only hope they'll never patch it.

>>383996296
>Implied raped
>Vengeance story, don't know the details
>dude likes to whack himself
>exiled from her tribe because reasons
>some vengeance against a tyrant king
>Lawman who got tired of all the corruption in the justice system and went full vigilante
>Not an actual doctor. Got kicked out of university probably because questionable methods

>>383997101
>>383995560
Is there any point in bringing 2 Antiquarians to runs? I thought it would get me more gold but having both of them is such a fucking handicap.

>>383989974
Sound like someone that need to git gud at both games...

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>>384007308
>"TRAPS ARE GAY!"

>>384007950

absolute madman

>>384000289
Is that the six trinket mod?

>>383997785
>Held EXTREMELY DEGENERATE parties on his courtyard (we are talking about sport killing and cannibalism levels of degeneracy here)
>Killed a vampire then decided the best thing to do was to feed her blood to everyone "lol it is just a prank bro!"
>Tried to summon demons, created the swinefolk and the flesh
>Hired a band of murderous bandits to keep the population quiet, now they are out of control
>Sacrificed a qt girl to fishmen creating the siren
>Tried to jew some pirates creating the drowned cre
>Invited researchers of necromancy and murdered in their sleep, creating the necromancer and the skeleton horde

He did everything wrong. The hag and probably the prophet (because he doesn't do much harm other than skulking in the ruins) are the only things that are not his fault

>>384007780
I believe that each Antiquarian you have in a party increases the max gold cap stack you can have.

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why is the ancestor such a fucking asshole?

does he kill everyone he meets? what the fuck is his problem

>>384007780
I'm pretty sure you don't get more Antiques since only the Antiquarian that interacts with the curio spawns those. So the only reason to bring an extra one is to raise the gold cap on stacks or for the camping skills.

>>384008180

>implying you wouldn't do the same if you were in his position

>>384008041
The prophet is totally his fault.

>prophet knew ancestor was up to no good
>ancestor tortures and tries to murder prophet many times
>ancestor shows prophet his plans
>prophet goes batshit

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>>384001223
>that Ves

brah...

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>>383994982
>>383995628
Man I love some of those Come Unto Your Maker lines.

>>383991703

Leper is amazing desu and he clearly doesn't understand how to play outside of a few limited strategies.

He has plenty of applications to various annoying scenarios, and shuffles are frankly irrelevant to a Leper's effectiveness because nearly every comp that isn't specifically a shuffle party relies on specific heroes in positions regardless. If your PD is moved to the front it doesn't matter that she can still use an ability, she's still not doing her job if she isn't at the back, and with the Leper it doesn't matter if he could do shit at the back, you would just move him forward anyway.

Leper is also a component in speedrunning strats and that already makes him a top contender - his concept of "high level play" is irrelevant in the face of people using the Leper to complete the entire game in 16 weeks.

So yeah, "Leper is bad" shitters need to learn to play. He's not some godly hero like Hellion but he's still fine.

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PD is best girl

>>383991703
Imagine actually being this autistic

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Are there any mod classes that aren't godawful, poorly-balanced, and out of place?

>>383999653
>>383991796
Actually the whole shit already got torn down by his neighbors overnight.

>>384008470
Yeah but there was already something wrong with him, seeing as how he could see the future and he just wouldn't die. Besides, of all the bosses he is the one who is actually harmless (lorewise) as he just spends his time hiding in the ruins being crazy. It is not like he is creating an army of skellingtons

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>>383995520
Yes he is arab and based on abdul alhazred, disregard the other anon.

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>>383986512
Thats not nearly fast enough

>>384009549
>Implied that he will die once the candle runs out
>upgrading his weapon makes the candle longer
?

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>haven't played the game since I beat it before Town Events come out
>start up a new run cos of the new DLC
>holy shit my village is being attacked
>nigga with a riposting bomb barrel BTFOs my team

RIP

its fun fighting blind against new bosses. going through the game again has been a bit uneventful aside from the Courtyard bosses and some of the new bosses because I already know how to kill every boss with no dramas

>>384003110
Survival is a tenuous proposition in this sprawling tomb

>>384007950
He isn't wrong.

>>384009424
Musketeer(both rebalanced version and reskin of arbalest), Pit Fighter, and maybe Cannoneer and Ronin.

>>384005328
I never ever use duplicate heroes in the same group. Am I doing it wrong?

>>384008482

Thats the GR yo

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>>383987026
https://youtu.be/0IUaGQhlPwo?t=1408
Reminder that the classes are intentionally unbalanced in combat for the sake of overall utility and player tension and satisfaction
Reminder that the fuck huge amounts of RNG was designed intentionally so that players could never go in without risk.
Reminder that Darkest Dungeon may not be for you, so don't be a Steam Workshop 6 trinkets fag if you dont like difficulty

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>>384009678
I bet those stupid eldritch gods and their followers didn't think about giving your skull-candle to your local blacksmith to live forever just like they didn't think about it would be used against them.

>>384007780

Two Antiquarians using protect me! is pretty legit, even someone frail like the GR can survive treesmackdowns with 80 prot

>>384010107
Not sure if you're baiting or stupid

>>383986360
THOSE WHO COVET INJURY
FIND IT IN NO SHORT SUPPLY

>>384010118
6 trinkets?!
What the fuck.

>>383998730

Joke is on you, I have a marked Flagellant.
Thanks for the free divine comfort

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>>383998950
>that party comp

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_IV_of_Jerusalem

>In 1174, at the young age of 13, Baldwin successfully attacked Damascus in order to draw the Muslim Sultan Saladin away from Aleppo.
>Reynald of Châtillon (the former prince of Antioch through marriage to Amalric I's cousin Constance of Antioch) to Constantinople as envoy to Manuel I Comnenus, to obtain Byzantine naval support. Reynald had recently been released from captivity in Aleppo

DEEPEST LORE

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>>384010389
Yeah, and some shitters are bad even with those.

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>>384010519
>I'm a fag who never plays without a healer - the post

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>>384000389
>not the Dark Souls/Bloodborne skins

>>383993118
There was a video of 4 dog lads killing every boss in the game.