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New Dragonbal Fighterz interview

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http://www.shonengamez.com/2017/07/14/dragon-ball-fighterz-interview-no-crossplay-planned-update-on-switch-version/

-No Negative Penalty
-No selectable assists planned.
-No crossplay planned
-No Switch version, focusing on Xenoverse 2 for switch
-No beam struggles because mashing to win is not a good game mechanic
-traditional throws will be added by character basis
-planning more stage transitions
-No plans to remove auto-combos
-Some characters will be better as an assist rather than on point. A big focus on team building to cover strengths and weaknesses.

Also this puts the whole Z vs Super shit to rest, we're going to get Super characters.
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>>383971164
>no beam struggles
That sucks, people complain about button mashing but I actually liked how immersive it felt
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>>383971164
>No Switch version, focusing on Xenoverse 2 for switch
People called it. They want to see how Xenoverse does first.
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>>383971164
>Also this puts the whole Z vs Super shit to rest, we're going to get Super characters.
Did... did someone actually think there would be no Super characters?
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>>383972625

No, people didn't want Super characters.

There's a difference.
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>No selectable assists planned.
>Some characters will be better as an assist rather than on point. A big focus on team building to cover strengths and weaknesses.

Uh? If assists aren't selectable what sense does the second make? Are we talking selecting specific moves for assists?
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>>383972801
>There's a difference.
Oh okay thanks I totally wouldn't have known the difference between not thinking something will happen vs not wanting something if you hadn't told me.
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Its very easy to fire beams. If there is a beam struggle. It will be all you see in entire match. Not having it is a good call.
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>>383972801
Really, Super characters are dogshit.

>b-but Beerus and Whis
Movie characters. So you're left with a bunch of chinese knockoffs from the tourney, skinhead Kai and a Goku palette swap.
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>>383972951

Glad I could help.
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I know GT is shit but I really would like to see this super form
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>>383973078
Could happen, I'm getting Butoden vibes from this roster. That or Gogeta SSJ4.
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>>383973387
>Gogeta SSJ4
I could dig it
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>>383971164
Who the literal fuck cares about Xenoverse 2
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>>383972394
I mean at least they are putting effort into that port, hell they are including major missions from the first game in it.
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>>383973524
Performance is abysmal though.
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>>383974618
I mean at least its locked, I don't know why its being ported, its not a game that benefits at all from being portable.
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>>383971164
>-traditional throws will be added by character basis

what does this mean?

i thought they didn't want to have traditional throws in the game?
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>>383971164
>Also this puts the whole Z vs Super shit to rest, we're going to get Super characters.
Nothing in that interview confirmed super characters.
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>>383976830
It didn't confirm them explicitly, but it stated that Z wasn't chosen to just cover the Z portion of the series.
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>>383971164
Hiroki is cute as fuck, I'll gladly be her husband
>-traditional throws will be added by character basis
>-Some characters will be better as an assist rather than on point. A big focus on team building to cover strengths and weaknesses.

most interesting points, especially the assist thing.
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>>383977127
I feel like we're definitely going to get bulma now, or at least someone that fills her role, as in someone who can either heal or power up your point character with capsules. I feel like team composition would matter more here than it ever had in a 3v3 fighter.
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>>383971164
>Also this puts the whole Z vs Super shit to rest, we're going to get Super characters.
She never said that.
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>>383976942
It was Both. They picked it because of Z being popular and giving the game more recognition while also going for that dumb alphamet reason. They say it in the interview.
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>>383973078
That and these two are the only things from GT I'd want. Everything else from that cesspool can fuck off.
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>>383977305
Yeah, that's a big hint that they may give us bulma. She fits the mold perfectly, shit at fighting but good with items/assists. It could also be dr.gero that assists with his machines or babidi that uses his magic. hell even the supreme kai could be an assist based character
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>>383971164
>No Switch version, focusing on Xenoverse 2 for switch
Not really what was said : he said "first Xenoverse 2, then DBF on the Switch". Not the same thing!
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>>383977127
>>383977305
MvC2, MvC3, and UMvC3 are full of characters that are shitty on point and only brought for assist, it's nothing new and doesn't meant you're going to get gimmicky non-combatant characters.
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>>383971164
What do you mean by "auto-combo"?
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>>383978695
What's different is that all the Marvel games have characters shit on point, but not on purpose (outside of joke characters like Servbot & Dan).

Capcom saw this problem and went "Shrink the team size, remove assists, add new mechanics that add depth down a different avenue" while ArcSys went "Why don't we just balance the game around this and make characters DESIGNED to be assists, which can fit in with their characters in the show?"

Both are valid approaches honestly, but MvCI is fucking up in just about every single other aspect it possibly could, so DBFZ has the edge.

What are the odds that Yamcha is in as a total joke on point but Spirit Ball is by far the best assist in the game?
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>>383977691
>No Baby
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>>383978695
I want to fight with Krillin, I don't want to have him in the background and pull him out every 15 seconds to pull off some shenanigan to go away again so I can use a super saiyan to actually fight with. Also, after watching the Bandainamco's stream earlier, the assists look fucking annoying as hell. You just press a button and stop the entire flow of battle with an assist shitting out a screenwide ki blast.
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>>383971164
>Also this puts the whole Z vs Super shit to rest, we're going to get Super characters.
[citation needed]
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is Daisuke Ishiwatari involved in the game?
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>>383979151
I don't think fighting games were ever self aware to make Yamcha a joke character, Super was the first time Yamcha's status as a joke was hyper self aware, but if yamcha is top tier in anything (battery, assist, point character) I'd be happy.
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>>383972394
Shame, I'd buy Fighterz but no way am I buying xenoshit.
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>>383979567
I recall at least one game making his death pose a move. I think it was a 2D fighter, even.
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have any more characters past the initial six been announced?
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>>383972998
Skinhead Kai is the best character in Super
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>>383979532
Seems not. The only writing or designing he does is for Guilty Gear and the music we've heard from the game seems closer to P4A than GG or BB.

Guilty Gear is Daisuke's baby, and I don't think he gives a shit about the other series ArcSys makes. Sure, he did BlazBlue's music, but that's about it.
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>>383979727
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>>383979727
Future Trunks is confirmed but we only have a couple screenshots.
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>>383979734
I like his expression here it looks like something to a hentai doujin.
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>>383979830
Man, I miss dynamic SSJ hair so bad. Look at that.
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>>383979151
There is unquestionably characters in 3 that were balanced weak because they believed their assist was fucking nuts.
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>>383979971
I actually would've preferred Trunks to be in his base form. Too many blondes, and his purple hair is more iconic.
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>>383971164
>mfw no one from super gets in
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>>383971164
>No beam struggles

No a DB game then
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After reading that I've lost almost all hype for this game.
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>>383980090
>mfw super gets in
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If you want any of Toei's filler crap in the game then you're part of the problem.
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>>383981495
Perfect Cell wins, he's more handsome and smug. Sorry rose.
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>We'll only put the game on Switch if Shitterverse 2 sales are good
>Also no crossplay, ever
Guess I'm never buying from ArcSys ever again
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>>383981628
Arc sys are bigger jews than capcom m8, they can just get away with it cause they make quality games. I'm actually afraid they might kill the popularity of this game with their jewness by releasing a small roster or rereleasing it every year and forcing you to buy an updated version. The playerbase is going to shrink rapidly if they do that.
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>>383981552
I do want casual outfits, fuck you buddy.
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>>383981772
All it takes is the audience's good will, see MvC3.
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>>383981628
Nigga Arcsys never has crossplay
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>>383981628
I think that's a bamco decision but xeno2 should sell well either way. no crossplay sucks though
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Polling you motherfuckers.

Who do you want in Dragon Ball Fighterz?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13439373
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>>383978816
An auto combo is like how in Persona 4 Arena, you can just press the same attack button to automatically do a combo. Its basically a way for beginners to have a combo they can use, while they get used to the other mechanics. Training wheels basically.
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>>383982281
Voted for my man
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>>383982281
>Can only pick 1
C'mon son.

Voted 16 since he'd probably be right up my alley, and also because the other characters I'd want are shoe-ins.
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>>383982281
>everyone so far has voted for a different character
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>no crossplay

fuck, I really want to get this on PC but it'll probably die there.
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>super characters confirmed
Zbabies BTFO. Which universe are you guys going to main? You can't choose universes that no longer exist.
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>>383983016
yeah that's really a shame and kind of annoyed me, because this would've been a perfect opportunity for arc sys to really help this blow up like what SFV tried to do (yes I know they were funded by son but still). I can just hope that this is really successful now.
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>>383973078
I always thought SSJ4 was a cool design

Not sure why his hair is red though

I wonder if the rest of his body is covered in hair, maybe he has a baboon butt or something.
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>>383982281
>Pick one
That's pretty shitty
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>>383982281
Where the fuck is ChiChi you fucking faggot
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>>383971164
>-No crossplay planned
Boooooo
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>>383971164
Is anyone annoyed by how tentative they are?

>KS: Will we see multiple versions of playable characters such as different forms of Goku for example?

>TH: We can’t go into detail, all we can say right now is look forward to future announcements, and we choose which characters make it in depending on what they can add to the game in a unique way, so look forward to that.

Like why can't they just give a direct answer, they said no clones before, but now I have a feeling we might get someone like Majin Vegeta now.
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>>383971164
Super characters

Hit
Kale
Jiren
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>>383983638
They've said they're choosing based on gameplay. We might see a character that is visually a clone but adds something new to the table.

I'm thinking Goku Black.
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>>383983270
i liked how one of the showcases of ssj4 was enhancing his sensory powers enough to fight blind. plus sensing evil and negative emotions and shit. i dunno, i just think transformations should come with more features than "different color" and "hits harder in theory"
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>>383979230
Baby and Super 17 are fucking garbage. Every dragon guy except Nuova, Eis and Syn is garbage.

Those three guys and the SS4 form are the only cool things from DBGT.
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>>383973078
I always thought SSJ4 looked like a humanoid hedgehog form especially with the hair.
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>>383984796
This is fact.
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>>383971164
>-traditional throws will be added by character basis
This sounds to me more like "there will be hit grab based characters" rather than full on command grabs.

>>383973524
No DLC included means it's being sent to die.
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Will they put Wiis in this one? You know, WEES!
That character named Wheeze?
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>>383984796
>I'm thinking Goku Black.
And yet, baby and super 17 are better villians then black and zamasu.
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>>383984974
has better chance of being a secret SNK tier level bullshit boss.
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>>383980036
Doom says fuck you. Yeah he has bad match ups but he is auto pilot as fuck and has 3 godly assists.
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>>383982141
GG (and technically UNIEST since they helped on network)
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Its just a casual game stop being so trigerred DB fighters always were casual
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlVtQDVrNns
>vegito's gimmick is an energy sword
>gogeta's gimmick is stardust and rainbows
what did they mean by this
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Only problem I have with this whole design characters around being assists is that we only have 1 assist and not three. They'd be worthwhile if they had three options and were absolute top tier in each three assists while each one functions differently (1st assist is incredible for offense, second one is great for boosting character or whatever). I don't know.

I'm not a fan of the idea of, Krillin should be weaker than Goku because he's a human. Shouldn't they just try to make everyone as good as possible?
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>We'll consider porting it on switch if there's enough support
>Fans show incredible amount of support
>Actually we meant, we'll consider porting it if you buy this shitty port of a shitty game that is nothing like FighterZ :)
I'll just get it on PC I guess
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>>383985384
fusion reborn is literally just a gay fanfiction retelling of the buu saga. like, even as a kid i knew something was odd about goku wanting vegeta to fuse with him so badly.
it's still one of the best movies though.
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New gameplay footage from EVO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XwmaZUpyJc&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhvrbJ5inIo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QszsVPiMHs
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>>383985010
ok?
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>>383971164
>no beam battle
>characters not viable by design
How to lose 90% of the sales.
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>>383985510
It'll come regardless. If they announce the Switch version before XV2 is out, people might just wait for Fighter Z. This way they can maximize both's sales by implying XV2 Switch's success will lead to DBFZ Switch.
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>>383985776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJV2RB2G5ms

They have this, but yeah
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>>383985472
>Shouldn't they just try to make everyone as good as possible?
They are but, in a team format.These types of games tend to do that whether it was by mistake or not.
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>>383985869
man how did one-handed kamehamehas not become a staple of gohan's moveset after that
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>>383985927
thoughts on this

"The problem is Marvel was never designed like that. It takes years for Marvel to develop. The meta takes a while to settle into what it is today. Psylocke isn't intentionally weak and Magneto isn't intentionally strong. It's stupid for any company to intentionally balance a game like MvC2. Every character should be designed to be good. Lore doesn't matter in fighting games. ASW should know this because most of the cast of GG and BB can stand a chance against the stronger ones. But that doesn't make a good fighting game.

And to the people who say "that's not what they mean." It's exactly as they mean. They're happy to say mashing beam struggles won't be in the game because it's a bad fighting game mechanic. So why not say "we're going to make a balanced fighting game where everyone is strong?" That's how GG and BB are designed. Why say power levels are taken into account in the first place when you can just say they're not? Designing a game around power levels to mimic MvC2's biggest balance problem is stupid."

not me, but someone else said this.
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>>383985969
What if he did two one-handed kamehamehas and combined them in the middle for double power
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>>383971164
>-No Negative Penalty
Interesting, why? Are they adding a new mechanic to replace it?
>-No selectable assists planned.
What does this mean?
>-No crossplay planned
Good, everyone knows fighters are better on PS4, and it should stay that way. If you haven't bought one by now, well, it's never too late.
>-No Switch version, focusing on Xenoverse 2 for switch
Kek
>-No beam struggles because mashing to win is not a good game mechanic
I'm legit bummed about this. I wish they would have tried to make it work.
>-traditional throws will be added by character basis
Sure, I'm fine with this
>-planning more stage transitions
expected
>-No plans to remove auto-combos
Makes sense, game is meant to be more casual than GG and BB.
>-Some characters will be better as an assist rather than on point. A big focus on team building to cover strengths and weaknesses.
I have mixed feelings on this, but if it allows for a more diverse roster with characters like Bulma, then I'm cool with it.
>Also this puts the whole Z vs Super shit to rest, we're going to get Super characters.
Obviously, anyone who thought Super shit wouldn't be in, is dumb.
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>>383986383
>What does this mean?
MvC2/3/Skullgirl selectable assists.
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>>383986047
>ASW should know this
Then they made Hokuto No Ken which was fun and broken as fuck. The "weak" characters might not be as strong but, that won't mean the stronger character should decimate them taking they don't want anyone be too strong.
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>>383983270
Originally his fur was gonna be golden, but the artist thought it looked silly, so he have him red fur instead since it matched well with his hair and pants (which were already yellow), and he thought red was a good symbol for feral/primal power, which is what SSJ4 is meant to be.
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>>383986383
>What does this mean?
One assist per character, I guess. until the mandatory update probably

Replace Satan with Arale or Jaco and I'd be fine with this. Also why is Chaotzu doing the anime girl finger twirl meme? Oh and Whis seems too powerful or we don't have enough material to draw from to use him.
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>>383971164
>-No Switch version, focusing on Xenoverse 2 for switch

Maximum Kek
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>>383986619
>>383986383
Quit samefagging consolewarrior cuck
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Haven't watched the Evo footage yet, but has anyone noticed that Vegeta gets his ass beat every time someone picks him?

Is he just shit in the current build, or does no one know how to play him yet?
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>>383986531
>citing HnK

they want this to be tournament viable anon, not kusoge
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>>383986870
HnK has tournaments
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Does anybody have the video mentioned in the interview where cell's super kamehama and gohna's clashed and gohan's won?

>>383986383
>Good, everyone knows fighters are better on PS4, and it should stay that way. If you haven't bought one by now, well, it's never too late.

shit bait
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>>383982281
>no Bardock
are you fucking daft?
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>>383981772
I wonder if people understand WHY they're jews.

Do you people know the cost of a SINGLE fighting game character? For the SkullGirls devs it was around half a million each.

Now, look at how ASW animates and models their shit, as well as the level of nuance they put into each character. And ASW character tends to have TWICE as many moves as a Capcom one, at least, and each move is meticulously planned and balanced.

So now factor all those elements into the cost of a character, and then add onto the fact that ASW is a very small company. The small rosters, DLC, and the expansions aren't cause ASW are a bunch of greedy cunts trying to nickle and dime everyone, it's cause Fighting game characters are fucking expensive, animators, artists, and programmers have to be paid, and their families need to be fed. Yeah, if making a fighting game character was as simple as writing a bunch of ideas onto a document, and then snapping your fingers then it'd be doable.

I think the ONLY way around this would be the LoL model, but for that, the game would need to be huge, and backed by a large company with heavy interest in eSports. Two luxuries ASW does not have as their games are very niche.


t. someone currently working on a fighting game
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>>383987045
what fighting game
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>>383986751
Sorry bud. Better luck next time.

Also, you shouldn't have bought a Switch m8. You wouldn't be begging for ports if you'd been smarter with your purchases.
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KS: Why is Z in the title for Dragon Ball FighterZ and how is it pronounced? Dragon Ball Fighters? Or Dragon Ball Fighter Z?

Translator: THANK YOU FOR THIS QUESTION, and I want you to spread the word on this one.

TH: Well basically for Dragon Ball FighterZ, we put in the Z because Z is the last letter of the alphabet, so we just wanted to be able to reach the “last” or “ultimate” point, and as you can probably imagine the Z has a really strong connection with Dragon Ball in general. As far as the pronunciation, it is pronounced Dragon Ball FighterZ, so just pronounce it like you would with an S.


So the Z is there just for Marketing and the Pun itself. So DB/GT/Super characters are more than fair game.
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>>383971457
It happens less than 5 times throughout the series, fuck off with trying to force that shit into everything
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>>383987142
An indie one.
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>>383986223
Because senility hit Toriyama hard.
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>>383983638
>they said no clones before
This fucking meme. They never said no clones. And every fucking time someone mentions this they can't fucking find the quote that says or even implies no clones.
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>>383971164
> In terms of the Switch version, we’re currently working on Xenoverse 2 for the Switch, so we want players to first go there, and then we can talk about FighterZ.
Fuck you, I'm not buying that shit game. I just want FighterZ.
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>>383987045
Dragon Ball FighterZ going the SFV route would have actually been cool so long as they don't have-ass and outsource like Capcom did.
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>>383972816
No, each character only has one assist which means characters like Yamcha and Krillen will still be worthless shits and Goku and Cell will still be big dick swinging niggers so all the powerlevel fags will get what they want while a properly balanced fighter moves just a bit closer to the exit door in turn.
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>>383987238
meant for
>>383985969
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>>383986223
Reminder that GT did this.
>Goku palmed 2 individual kamehamehas
>forced combined them(actually showed him forcing them together with strength)
>it had this weird voice filter when firing and had a delayed effect
It was pretty fucking cool.
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>>383972816
Marvel vs Capcom has 3 assists for every character.
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>Super trash will be included
And dropped.
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>>383972394
>They want to see how a game that came last year that everybody has played already does first.
They're fucking dumb.
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>>383971164
>Also this puts the whole Z vs Super shit to rest, we're going to get Super characters.
What? Where does it say that?
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>>383987412
see you next thread faggot
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>>383971164
>No beam struggles because mashing to win is not a good game mechanic
For as much garbage as the game gets, they could borrow the gambit system from Injustice. Gamble a secret amount of energy when your beam attacks collide and depending on how much you spend, you could either win, tie, or lose the struggle.
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>we choose which characters make it in depending on what they can add to the game in a unique way, so look forward to that.
JANEMBA CONFIRMED.
WHERE MY JANEMBROS AT?
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>>383987304
It all comes down to cost though. The SF brand is much more synonymous with competitive gaming than DBZ. If you can't be sure that your costs will be met by people purchasing character skins, then you're SOL. You also need a massive install base for that. LoL can do that model cause MOBAs are easy as fuck to make characters for.
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>>383987540
in general I don't understand the arguement the dev presented

Dexterity is a executional skillgap for fighting games to begin with, why can't how fast you can mash a button be part of that?

>>383987634
reporting in anon
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>>383987634
That'd be pretty damn cool.
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Where my Kid Goku niggas at
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>>383987696
>why can't how fast you can mash a button be part of that?
I think that part of it is because some people can naturally be gifted to have godspeed for no fucking reason. It essentially comes down to who was blessed enough to be able to vibrate their fingers the fastest, and speed isn't a skill that you can train in the same way you can learn how to play a fighting game. You can practice zoning and become a master, you can practice button mashing and still be slow or maybe add an extra 2 presses p/m.
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Do you people actually think Super is good?
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>>383971164
>going to have to buy Xenoverse 2 so we get FighterZ on the Switch

fuck you Bamco, you know I'm going to fucking do it
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>>383987965
No
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>>383987965
If they manage to uncuck Gohan then I wont exactly hate it.
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If Gogeta made it in, would his normals be kicks or stardust fists?
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>>383971164
>we're going to get Super characters

Welp

This game is dead on arrival
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>>383987634
they folded lots of janemba's powerset into manga zamasu
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>>383988504
By including characters from the currently running POPULAR series? You seriously think this game would even exist if Super didn't revitalize the DBZ franchise in the first place?
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>>383988249
it would probably save them a lot of money animating him if he just slid everywhere like a cardboard cutout while rainbows flew across the screen
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>>383988652
Battle of Gods did that lol
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>>383988652
actually yeah making dragon ball games in perpetuity seemed like a thing they were gonna keep doing
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>>383988652
it's called trolling anon. it's silly nonsense to bait people into responding, of course that's not going to lose them sales. The more entries they hit, the higher the chance is people will buy it. Just think about it, there are people who would buy this game just because it's got like, Broly or Bardock, but nobody is going to drop it because of this fact.
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Might as well ask here

What is the best PS360 era DBZ game?
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>>383983638
I'm really worried about this desu, I feel like they can justify putting in Base Goku because he can have a spirit bomb now. God no.
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>>383988874
Burst Limit for the Budokai experience.
Raging Blast 2 for stiff Tenkaichi 3 combat with canceling.

Other games are irrelevant.
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>>383971457

Eh, this game clearly is going for more of a fighting game style. Beam struggles are better for the "DBZ simulator" style games.
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>>383988974
What about Burst Limit 2? What's wrong with that one?
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>>383989035
Well it was pretty good, but it doesn't exist.
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>>383988249
>Gogeta just glides across the screen when you move him
>his only physical attack is the rush kicks
>all his other attacks are rainbows, gate of babylon style
>stardust and glitter float around him
>SSJ4 instal with Kamehameha*10 and Final Shine
I'd pay $20 for day 1 dlc and main him.
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>>383988583
>God steals techniques from a Demon
pottery
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>>383987876
My fucking nigger
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>>383988861
DB Bulma was the best.
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Real question though is android 18 does Android 18 even have that much material to draw from? I know she's really popular and is the most guaranteed female slot, but does she have that much more material than say 18 who has the spopovich fight? I remember she fought Vegeta and Trunks? I mean people say that Yamcha doesn't have that much material to work with, but I'd say he has as much her at least.
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>>383987963
>I think that part of it is because some people can naturally be gifted to have godspeed for no fucking reason. It essentially comes down to who was blessed enough to be able to vibrate their fingers the fastest, and speed isn't a skill that you can train in the same way you can learn how to play a fighting game. You can practice zoning and become a master, you can practice button mashing and still be slow or maybe add an extra 2 presses p/m.

The same is true of reaction time in general though

>>383987965
The manga is alright
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>>383990007
than say videl*
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>>383990007
For 18 you have the vegeta/ trunks fight, her fights in history of trunks, and whatever she did in super.
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>the fucking title screen music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW7KQqZi2Vs
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>>383988652
they've been making DB games every year since like 1988.
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>>383982281
mr popo
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>>383971164
Did they say anything about rollback/GGPO?! Why is no one asking about that?
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>>383990007
>does Android 18 even have that much material to draw from?
Going by the absolute minimum, in the manga she has enough for a fighting style and maybe 2 specials. But arcsys are taking a lot from the anime too, so expect those nasty filler combos to be part of her special moveset.
Realistically Cell is the only "android" that has enough manga material to make it in the game, 17 and 18 don't have much.

>>383990067
>The same is true of reaction time in general though
True
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>>383990193
Was there a single DB game with bad music?
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>>383971164
>-No Negative Penalty

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. No losing points after a ranked match or something?

>-No selectable assists planned.

So it's not exactly like MVC3? So what?

>-No crossplay planned

Okay that sucks.

>-No Switch version, focusing on Xenoverse 2 for switch

Literally who cares

>-No beam struggles because mashing to win is not a good game mechanic

Neither is long anime animations. The more time you're in control of your character the better.

>-traditional throws will be added by character basis

Good.

>-planning more stage transitions

Good.

>-No plans to remove auto-combos

I'm okay with a beginner's mode as long as they don't make the most rewarding combos automatic.

>-Some characters will be better as an assist rather than on point. A big focus on team building to cover strengths and weaknesses.

That's inevitable I think. In order for some characters to be good others need to be bad.
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>>383971164
>-No beam struggles because mashing to win is not a good game mechanic
They should be in and work like injustice wagers
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>>383990393
Negative penalty is a defense debuff when you run away for too long
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>>383984796
Nuova was the only good character among the dragons and that was because he was honorable unlike most villains.
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>>383990393
>Neither is long anime animations.
They're only for the supers
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>>383987696
>Dexterity is a executional skillgap for fighting games to begin with, why can't how fast you can mash a button be part of that?
People don't want it because it becomes physically painful
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Does this deconfirm Videl? I mean she's weak as shit canonically so she can't even be a rushdown monster, but she doesn't even have anything to offer assists wise like Bulma (maybe even Satan).
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>>383983158
god damn. what the fuck happened to dragonball?
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>>383986047
My man that's wrong, the developers are not the community. They very clearly made some characters have good assists while weak by itself
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>>383990548
I'm fine with that. Again, why should it be exactly like MVC3 or GGXrd?

>>383990595
SFIV is the golden standard for 2.5d fighters. Most ultras took around 6 seconds or less, with Gief being the exception at 10 seconds, and Gief was garbage.
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>>383986383
>no hit
its trash
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>>383990193
>tfw we'd probably be able to mod it to swap music tracks out in the PC version but the PC version is probably gonna be dead as fuck

feels bad man
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>>383990645
Same guy, but yeah, not sure I'm a fan of this assist thing. This really like either deconfirms or relegates DB era characters to either be a batter or assist or whatever.
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>>383971164
>-No selectable assists planned.
Uhh. That's not good. Although it does make balancing a lot easier, obviously. I know:
>-Some characters will be better as an assist rather than on point. A big focus on team building to cover strengths and weaknesses.
But still.
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>>383990747
>>383990645
I think people are reading too much into this. He's not saying some characters will be shit and only good as assist's, he's saying that some of them will have being a good assist anchor as more of key part of what makes them good and might be worse in other areas.

For example, krillen might have lower damage output, but be safer in terms of frame data, and his assists might be super good because it's something like solar flare (which would stun and give you a free combo) or destructo disk (which would be unblockable).
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>>383975972
Grapplers
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>>383987165
t. consolewarrior cuck
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>>383971164
Bunny
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>>383987165
>multiplats are ports now even when they're new
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>>383990645
>she can't even be a rushdown monster
I can't be the only one who thinks that #18 should be the pure rushdown. In the manga she has like 2 ki moves, and one of those are kienzan.
>she can't charge her meter
>her meter fills faster by blocking and punching more than normal characters
>she can chain more normals together
>has less special moves and higher damage output for normals

There goes my vote right now
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>>383990937
I do think I am overreacting, I just think being so rigid to the source material and actually having power levels affect tiers might not be such a good idea. I dunno.
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>>383990650
It got better.
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>>383971164
>-No beam struggles because mashing to win is not a good game mechanic

Why wouldn't they just make it based on meter burned?
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>>383991087
Super is shit.
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>the game is about powerlevels
>super characters are gonna be OP
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I want hit.
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>>383991190
Was Frieza top tier in the evo tourney?
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>>383991190
It's probably talking about relative power in their arcs, or characters who are perceived as powerful.
Main villains are roughly equal, so on.
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>>383991306
He was on most teams. His juggle attack is great for assits.

I didn't see a single good Cell.
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>>383991089
Then leave it up to chance if someone has higher meter than and you throw out your kamemeha now you're lock into a beam struggle.
>>383991190
Not going to lie Berrus being God tier would be great.
>>383991306
Loads of people use him, Goku, and Gohan the most.
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>>383973078
gt is better than super
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>>383991103
You could even say it's super shit
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>>383991408
I'm going to laugh if it goes SSJ2 Gohan>SSJ1 Goku>SSJ1 Vegeta. And Frieza>Buu>Cell.

>>383991415
>Not going to lie Berrus being God tier would be great.

Agreed, seeing him finger flicking people and causing a wallbounce would be hilarious.
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so, is this game looking good or not?
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>>383991570
Need more info really. Game looked fun from the side tourney though.
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>>383981628
did we ever get a confirmation on pc? either way its gunna be like tekken but worse if it does come
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>>383991536
>SSJ2 Gohan>SSJ1 Goku>SSJ1 Vegeta
Vegeta has the better assist over Goku. It locks the enemy in place, good for charging or maneuvering a guard.

Gohan does the most damage with his normals.

Gohan > Vegeta > Goku. I think.
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>>383991647
Yeah it's coming to PC. Arc sys really shot themselves in the foot not making this crossplay, that would have been a great oppurtunity to really make this bigger.
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>>383988081
This. I always hated how gohan became a punching bag after the cell saga. Or that he got insanely weak after it. He had ao much potential but nope. Jack shit.
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>majin buu can eat the opponent and it's an insta kill

now i'm not a fighting gameologist but this doesn't seem fair
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>>383991858
>and it's an insta kill
It isn't.
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>>383991858
>insta kill
Its not. He poops them out if they have health left.
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>>383991858
>it's an insta kill
nope
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>>383991959
>He poops them out
L-lewd.
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any new characters?

already know about Trunk
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>>383992154
nope
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>>383987308
If it's balanced right and there are enough characters, this power level thing might work out fine.

Dr. Doom is basically a requirement on every team in UMvC3 specifically because of how good his assist is

I'm more worried about the reportedly shallow combat system
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>>383971164
Can we get a petition for there to at least be crossplay between PC and Xbox since Sony wil probably decline? Both are not huge systems and I'd like to be able to play a fighting game that releases on my platform without it dying in 2 months because it's not on the PS4.
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>>383987425
In an earlier interview the producer confirmed that characters from any part of Dragon Ball are possible, including Gt, Super, OG DB, movies, etc
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>>383991304
what's the appeal beyond purple king crimson
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>>383992509
So why was this game showcased for Xbox? I always saw DBZ games as a Sony thing, even though they're multiplats.
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>>383992687
he specializes in killing people instead of just using epic ki technique #20023 and also has a shed of honor, unlike a lot of characters.
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>>383992695
>I always saw DBZ games as a Sony thing
It never was so I'm not sure why you did. DBZ's branched across all platforms spontaneously forever. There's even 3DS DBZ games.
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Oh man I hope we get Hit.
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>>383992491
>reportedly shallow combat
by whom?
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>>383992778
Imagine his time skip being apart of some of his basic attacks, and they instantly respond to your input so you have to know what the attack is going to be in order to keep the combo up without creating gaps between them and openings
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>>383992767
No DBZ games until the 7th gen were made for Xbox. And aside from BoZ and Kinect, this is the first DBZ game to be featured on Xbox.

Even XV1-2 are featured and promoted by sony.
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>>383992491
The characters in the demo weren't finished nor were they the most unique characters.
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Where did it say that there would be Super characters?
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>>383991702
Crossplay might be complicated by the fact that Sony won't allow it with xbone.
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>>383984961
They're just reselling all the DLC for Xenoverse 2 on Switch separately
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>>383993016
They said that any character from any generation would be fine as long as it's popular & interesting fighting-style wise.
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>>383992778
I just watched the clips of Hit because I haven't been paying attention to Super. One, why is Vegeta's hair just blue with no change in style or flow. Two, what exactly is Hit's deal; is he just an assassin or are they in a tournament or something? Three, why did Vegeta just sit there and try to grab Hit's arm then throw a punch as if Hit didn't have a second arm?
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>>383982281
>No Bardock

I'm not even going to vote because I'm so insulted.
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>>383993162
They're in a tournament because Beerus and Champa were fighting over who gets U7's earth.
Hit is an assassin who was chosen for the tournament because he's really strong, he can't kill in the tournament so he's nerfed, but we see more of him later.

Vegetas hair is Blue because he's using a ki control technique + super saiyan god that makes him more powerful. The animation is kind of shit though, gets better with Hit vs Goku though.

We don't know, he might've thought that Hit could react fast enough for all we knew. Canonically he was low on power after going SSB while showing off earlier, anyway.
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>>383993162
One, Vegeta is a Super Saiyan Blue now. It's like Super Saiyan, but with blue hair instead. And it's stronger than SSJ4 or something.
Two, they're in a tournament, and Hit is an assassin.
Three, Vegeta doesn't know how to fight in DBS, and why are you even watching it in the first place? If you are, start at episode 48 OR episode 95.
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>>383993616
I'm assuming those episodes aren't out in english yet? I want to spend less time reading subs and more time judging the animation.
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>>383993705
If you want to judge the animation then watch the BluRay version.
Dubbed currently goes up to RoF.
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>>383992778
It would be nice
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>>383993705
>I want to spend less time reading subs
There's nothing important that they say.

Go on Fireden or some other 4chan archive, and in the search box > under file name > "super animation.webm"
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I just want to play as Big Green and not get shitkicked by broken characters, is that so much to ask?
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>>383981628
what does arcsys have anything to do with xenoverse, crossplay means dedicated servers which arcsys has no money for, bamco does and if it doesnt have crossplay you can blame them. Stop saying dumb shit with no info
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how do you guys feel about Kid Buu?

he's one of my favorite characters, probably my favorite big bad villain in Z

he's probably not as evil Frieza and he doesn't really have a goal but I really like the way he fights, he's goofy but brutal and he doesn't fuck around.

I really hope he's in the game.
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>>383994209
He has every reason to get in over Super Buu.

In fact, on move set alone he has more reason than every villain that isn't Frieza or Cell.
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>>383993935
>just take a look at my million billion reposts
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>>383994209
He probably won't make it unless they want to go for the stretchy limb fighter role which big green can fill.
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>>383994209
reincarnating into goku's muslim apprentice was the weirdest possible direction for this character
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Do you think the strongest villain from Z will make it in?
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>>383994209
If it weren't for Super Buu having the Genocide attack, Kid Buu would be my favorite incarnation of Buu, no contest.
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>>383994579
>strongest villain from Z
But he's already been confirmed, anon
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>>383987284
Then you shouldn't have bought a 5 year old hardware console receiving 3 years old ports
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>>383982378
Always and forever fellow Yamchabro.
Sad that if he does get in he'll definitely be one of those assist characters they talked about but it's not gonna stop me from playing him on point anyway.
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>>383992778
He better have some lines about doughnuts if he's in.
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>>383995402
goku looked like he was in a lot of pain, this hit guy is being deceitful
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>>383995402
>Hit kills Goku
>right before he dies Goku angels a ki blast to fall back down on him and revive him
Who wrote this?
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>>383995917
me
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>>383995917
In theory it's not a bad idea. If assuming that all hit did was stop his heart with some blunt force trauma, something like a ki blast very well could cause it to start again.
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>>383995917
Goku is just a fighting genius. He easily figured out Hit's new time skip and how to beat it later.
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>>383972394
I already bought it as part of that ultimate game sale a week ago. Unless they add something like Nintendo-themed costumes or whatever, I don't think I'll be rebuying the game.
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>>383971457
Pls fuck off, anon. This is going to be a fighting game
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Best girl when?
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>>383982281
If Hit or Zamasu aren't in the game I might actually boycott it. The anti-Super fags can get seriously obnoxious sometimes.
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>>383981628
You won't be missed
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>>383985617
>same 6 characters from E3
>same gameplay from E3
Show me the Trunks build and reveal some more chars and I'll get hyped.
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>>383986383
You are the problem
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>>383998128
>same gameplay
Some of these players at least know a little bit of what they're doing.
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>>383997947
the only super characters id be okay with are Hit, Zamasu and Goku Black
everyone else has boring shit or dumb beam spam.
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>>383998467
>Hit, Zamasu and Goku Black
Lol? Those are literally the only characters in Super right now. Technically Jiren is in Super now, but he just got in.
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>>383972394

>focusing on a game literally everyone has played already
>HURR THIS WILL DECIDEO UR FUTURE SUPPORT EVEN THO EVERYONE HAS IT ALREADY

I'm fucking sick and tired of this bullshit, people want NEW games on their NEW console, they gauge interest with ports of old as fuck shit nobody gives a crap about and then cry HURR DURR NINTENDO DOESN'T SELL OUR GAEM

fuckign trash go die
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>>383993113

>here take this year old game at full price with less graphics and poor fps
>oh btw you must buy all the dlc
>if you do not buy it we won't make other games on it XDDDD
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>>383998778
I guess Cabba and the dykes are really popular or something, so they'll find a way to bloat the roster with more monkies instead of trying to stand out from other DB fighters rosters.
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>>383994685
Pls fuck off with your non canon shit
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>>383999485
Dykes yes. Cabba no.

Main Fighterz dev said she likes the new female super saiyans too.
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>>383971164
>>383977127
>yfw you loose against an assist focused character
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>>383978654
He needed to get Switch owners in the thread.
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>>383999636
>waifus confirmed
FUCK YES!
>>
If they put in SSG and SSB how will it work with Vegeta / Goku?

Will we get a power up version that uses Energy to transform? or will they be a stand alone character?

From the little gameplay I saw Frieza has a power up that costs X amount of energy and turns him golden for a certain amount of time.
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>>384000001
>Assist Character makes a comeback from a 1v3 situation
Would be hype as fuck
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>>383973078
I will never not think this is cool.

Specially the legitimization of the sayians turning into apes being more than just a forgotten gimmick. Having a super sayian giant ape and a ape super sayian were good moves.
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>>383999485
>the dykes are really popular or something,
Considering that Kale is femBroly and Caulifla is getting Ultra SSJ in next weeks episodes, they are straight boner fuel
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DB > DBZ > DBS > DBGT
If you think otherwise you are probably retarded or 15
>>
>Beam struggles are one of the things we struggled with the most as far as implementing. It’s very hard to make it work, but in the original source content, its not so much of a matter of technique as it is brute force, so that makes it difficult to implement in game in a way that feels fair. Button mashing speed isn’t technical, it depends on the person. Some people may be good at fighting games, but they aren’t good at mashing buttons and they lose, so it isn’t a good game mechanic. We decided we aren’t going to do that, we’re just going to go off of strength, and in this case, Gohan’s Father Son Kamehameha has that extra version that overpowered Cell’s.

That's plenty reasonable.
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>>383971164
>No Switch version, focusing on Xenoverse 2 for switch

BAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>384001456
>>383978654
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>>383973503

"3D" fighting game lovers.
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>>384001586
More like Speshul Snowflake lovers.
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>no beam struggle

D r o p p e d

The block/null/struggle system was the best part of the SNES fighters.

People who suck at it can spend meter to null the beam, do a super block to cut down the damage, etc.

This is faggotry.
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>>383987965
I didn't watch the recaps because I knew it would be rushed trash, so I started with the U6 vs U7 tournament, and it was fairly enjoyable.
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>>383995031
Yeah, why did I buy a PS4?
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>>383988652
I thought DBZ:A revived the brand?
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>>384002663
Because it receives more than 3 years old ports.
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>>384002673
Nigga what? Abridged is popular, but Dragon Ball was never on a popularity decline. It's one of the most constantly praised franchises.
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>>384002795
Yeah, it receives brand new PC ports instead
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>>383972998
Hit would actually be a fun addition with his time skip abilities. But other than that, I can't think of anyone from Super I'd want in. Even Beerus doesn't have much to offer besides big energy blasts like 90% of the cast.
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>>384002795
Yeah it receives 2 year old PS3 ports and downgraded PC games.
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>>384002673
>Meme Four Star
>impactful in any form to the greater brand
They're an in-joke in America and nothing more, and anyone who says otherwise is either arrogant, stupid, or both. Battle of Gods pretty much un-stagnated the brand by being a damn good anniversary movie and raising a shitload of money to ensure Resurrection F, and we only got to that point because of Dragon Ball Kai drumming interest again, for better or for worse, especially with all the hubub about the composer plagarizing music.
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>>384002673
It kept it alive.
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>>384002989
>>384002673
nope, it was Dragon Ball Heroes that revived the brand. Every kid in Japan knows dragon ball thanks to Dragon Ball Heroes
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>>384002972
And games you'll NEVER EVER get. :^)
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>>384003312
>*Also on PC
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>>384003312
>games
>s
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>>383992491
Doom is a great character by himself.
He's not like Arthur who only works as an assist but then gets blown up when he actually has to play.
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>>383972801
>not wanting Beerus or Black
???
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>>384003361
>>384003416
>Ignoring the actual games that you will NEVER get


LMAO delusional mustard. In b4 "B-but those games are shit, anyway".
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>>383987045
autism
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>>383982281

>first place

BLACKED
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>>384003519
>Games you will never get
*ALSO ON PC
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>>383987229
TFH?
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>>383982281
>no Arale

Shit list.
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>>384003519
>actual games
>s
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>>384003673
>>384003773
Can't wait to play Bloodborne, Horizon, Spider-Man, and Nioh on Pee-C.

>B-B-B-UT THOSE GAMES ARE SHIT OR DON'T COUNT
Let's see how predictable you are. :^)
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>>384004092
>>384003773
>>384003673
Oh fuck off.
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>>384004092
you forgot the "walking simulator and QTEs" meme
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>>383987045
incredible amount of lies and half truths from an ASW dicksucker who enjoys getting exploited.
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>>384004092
>an okay game
>a Chinese knockoff of that one game
>a TPS
>and an unreleased capeshit game
>4 year old console
Damn nigga. I'm so glad I wasted money on this brick.
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>>384004283
>B-B-BUT *ALSO ON PEE-CEE! *ALSO ON PEEE-CEEEE!!!!!
>Got shown games that are not *Also on Pee-C
>B-B-B-UT THOSE GAMES ARE SHIT AND THEY DON'T COUNT

Holy shit, the predictable goalpost moving is real.
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>>384004384
be proud of shovelware then

retarded freak
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>>384004384
I wasn't the "Also on PC" guy :^)
PS4 has one (1) game.
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>>384004092
>The same games posted every time
>One of them isn't out for another year
kek
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>that max vs dai
>that unbeatable Freeza
>all those intense rounds
>that Goku vs the world
>that finisher
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>>384002967
Beerus has hakai, energy nullification and etc
he'd be like Slayer, take some of his super casual movements vs ss3 goku too.
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>>384004384
Holy fuck you're frothing at the mouth lmao.

How empty is your life to seriously type that shit out?
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>>383992861
Pros who got their hands on it said they couldn't really connect things outside of auto combo
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>>384004697
Who are these Pros?
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>>383994209
He's really unique and interesting so I hope he gets in
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>>384004793
I'm not into fighting games enough to know it

You're welcome to look it up. The game is being made by Arcsys tho, so I'm sure that the final build will have a better combo system
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>>384004682
>>384004607
>>384004549
>Kept saying *Also on Pee-C
>Damage controlling and trying to sound like on the upper hand after shown that there are PS4 games NOT *Also on Pee-C

The goalpost moving is real.
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>>383971164
>powerlevels
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>>384002989
DBK is shit

TFS does what DBK set out to do but better
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>>383971457
>No beam struggles because mashing to win is not a good game mechanic

You know there are ways to implement beam struggles without it boiling down to mashing. Mashing is just the easiest and most common adaptation, but really you could put any minigame in there. RPS, some sort of simon says QTE, you could have it spend a resource like meter, health, ect or just come up with something totally new and original.

No beam struggles at all because mashing is bad sounds like a cop out.
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>>383971164
>-No Switch version, focusing on Xenoverse 2 for switch
what this really means
>buy XV2 on the switch or we won't port it
they are waiting to see if XV2 is succesful on the switch
if it doesn't get good sales you won't get fighterZ
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>>384005210
>No beam struggles at all because mashing is bad sounds like a cop out.
Nobody wants to go from a high-octane fighting game to a shitty button-mash simulator or a fucking SIMON SAYS QTE!

Beam struggles belong in the trash with the rest of the DBZ "fighting games" after Budokai 3.
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>>384005642
But will it do good?
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>>384005705
no idea
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>>384000169
They might be stand alones.
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>>384005648
What's wrong with best two out of three RPS with a 3 second time limit?
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>>383971164
>-No beam struggles because mashing to win is not a good game mechanic
what

fighting games are all about mindless button mashing
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>>384003673
>>384004092
>>384003519
>>384004129
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>>384005827
Beyond the fact that it affects the game flow and would play out like the shitty ultimate attacks from Budokai 3, where you had to guess which button your opponent was going to press in order to not get hit by their attack?

Nothing at all.
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>>384005919
0/10
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>>384005919
>fighting games are all about mindless button mashing
t. casual
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>>383988583
I hope the game has a mix of manga and anime stuff. Especially for the Super characters.
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>>384004092

Bloodbornes good, Horizon isnt for me, Nioh looks ok but aint feeling it rn, and Spiderman LOOKS ok but we need to see some shit that isnt scripted and you know it so dont bother using it as ammo.

My ps4 has been collecting dust. Been tempted to get N sane trilogy but i emulated the originals in mednafen instead :^)
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>>384005969
>where you had to guess which button your opponent was going to press in order to not get hit by their attack?
So you mean like a fighting game?
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>>384002967
>winnie the pooh
>robot beings
>dog brothers
>future mai
There's plenty that would be fun
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>>384006234
The furfag trio could be cool if they were all one character.
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>>384006234
>>future mai
I'd accept this but ONLY if Launch somehow isn't the gun user in the game.
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>>384006319
>he doesnt want future trunks with his meme spirit bomb sword and mai sniping/shotgunning as an assist character
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>>384006319
it could work since this is a 3v3 game
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>>384006090

Jumping into this argument to call you a willfull idiot. I know youre smart enough to see why people dont like Dragon Rush.

Losing 1000HP-1700HP in Budokai 3 was very likely using Dragon Rush. Why? Because you didnt choose the correct buttons?

That said i liked it enough in that game and wouldnt mind a Infinite World sequel or rerelease, or hell just rerelease Budokai 3 with all the plagarized music in tact because it was better music.
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>>383982378
>>383995098
they need to have saibamen in the game JUST to have a super that leaves every character in a yamchapose crater

if they don't do that i dont know why they are even making this game
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>>384004942
>Ps4 has no games
>>proves wrong
>those games are shit
They never have a sound argument, do they anon?
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>>383983158
I would like to see Zen-Oh, even though designwise he is one of the stupidest fucking things ever (would've preferred King Kai to get an upgrade or something over another deliberately harmless looking super-god-being)

but mechanics wise I'd like to see how they incorporate Past and Future Zen-Oh into a moveset.
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>>383982281
>no option for best villain
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>>383999485
I'd rather have most of the rest of the U6 team over Cabba. Even the spineless robot (have him wig out if the opponent taunts him or something, I dunno) has more potential to be cool
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>>384006435
cell fags invaded with their tryhard edgy talks and super chills want baseball yamcha to be the final boss.
No love left for vintage humor anon.
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>>384006090
No, I mean a shitty guessing game where your ability to not eat an ultimate is based on whether or not you pressed the correct button on the controller, rather than anything that would normally constitute a fighting game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3CXaSZMtRU
(skip to 0:32)
>inb4 I don't see a difference because I'm an idiot.
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>>384005949
Why did you even quote me?
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>>384004942
>Its the same games listed every single time
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>>383983158
i can see the furfag trio, some of the pride patrollers, the kamikaze fireballs since this is a 3v3 game
hit doesn't have potential since he isn't a team player
black and zamasu have some team attacks
champa and beerus could be fun
>>
Why are DBZ threads on /v/ ALWAYS filled with dirty spics desperately trying to pretend GT was better than Super?

No wonder this board is garbage and everyone has shit taste in games, Mexicans browse it.
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>>383986383
>Good, everyone knows fighters are better on PS4,
The sad fucking state of brand fanaticism everyone
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>>384007024
both gt and super are dogshit
the only thing super has going for it is the noverlty
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>>384006884
The same games that are not *Also available on Pee-C. Which proves you wrong. :^)
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>>383987045
>project cost "per character"
Fuck off retard.
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>>384006948
>hit doesn't have potential since he isn't a team player
Neither are Vegeta or ANY of the villains, yet here we are.
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>>383982281
>>383982702
>>383983350
>>383987039
>>383983454
>>383990292
>>384003714
>>384006637
Updated with multi choice and your characters.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13441025
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>>384007024
I think a lot of people like the ideas GT had.
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>super is bad
How to spot a faggot
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>>384007126
Yeah but they've been bragging rights for the past two years

got any new material?
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>>383995402
>that animation
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>>383987965
Past the recraps, yeah.
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>>384007362
Yeah but mustards been repeating the same "*Also on Pee-C" regardless of the games that are actually ONLY on PS4.

Got any new material?
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>>384006090
>like a fighting game?
Unless the fighting games you play require you to press the exact button used for an attack in order to block rather than a high/low/overhead system that you can read the animation cues to know where you generally should be blocking, no, it's nothing at all like a fighting game.
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>>384007569
one thing does not negate the other
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>>383982376

>DBFZ will keep auto combos
>it's just a way for beginners to get used to the other mechanics
>MVCI has auto combos that you can turn off
>REEEEEEE FUCK CAPCOM CASUALIZING THE GAME, YOU DESERVE TO DIE!
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>>383984974
>>383985103

Or he can just be pretending like he does on Xenoverse.
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>>384006637
>tfw no 'Ginyu Force' character that plays like Captain Commando on steroids
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*sniffs your butt*

is /ourGuy/ gonna get in?
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>>384007876
yiff in hell furrfag
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>>384007876
Nothing past the Goku Black arc will realistically make it in, it's too recent.
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>>384007648
Exactly.

Games that are *Also available on Pee-C don't negate the games that are exclusives.
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>>383990390

Dragon Ball FighterZ
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>>384007650
SF and MvC used to be solid fighting game series that didn't have to rely on auto-combos to entice newbies, so when they do auto-combos, it's them casualizing the game to suit a wider audience that gives no fucks about their games in the first place.

Learn the difference, it could save your life.
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>>384008001
And that does not negate the *Also on PC games, which outweigh the exclusives
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I would be interested in seeing this guy get in, maybe with two modes to his character ('Faux-Heroism' and 'Full-On Cheating Bitch' mode).
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>>384007941
thats disappointing
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>>384008081
>the exclusives
Yeah, the exclusives. Thank you for acknowledging it.

Mustards have been saying "Hurrrr * Also available on Pee-C! PS4 no games!" as if every PS4 game is also available on Pee-C when it's not the case.
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>>383983638
I really, really wish at least one other game dev would take the concept from MKX where you pick a character and then pick their moveset/version. This allows you to have them take up one slot with like a dropdown menu of "versions", like Majin Vegeta and season 1 vegeta could be outfits/moveset variants under his one slot
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>>384008317
Yes, the same exclusives posted every time, never changing. For 2 years
>>
You guys can hate Super all you want, but on a fighting game perspective, Super characters would contribute the most to the game.
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>>384008467
So, exclusives, yeah.

So, it's not entirely *Also available on Pee-C like mustards always imply.

Thank you for proving me right. :^)
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>>383971164
>-No selectable assists planned.
That's a bit disappointing. Rest seems good though.
>>
This sounds awful, fuck this I'm just gonna play marvel instead then
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>>384008467
It's not something that warrants being asked over 2 years, it's a yes or no question.
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>>384008116
I really wish they stuck with him being a good guy.
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>>384008573
*Also on PC games > PS4 exclusives
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WILL /OURGIRL/ MAKE IT IN THOUGH?
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>>384007247
>all the characters people complained weren't listed have zero votes despite the fact that's it's multiple choice now
I know this might influence people to vote for them now out of contrarian spite but I feel this vindicates the original pollster's character choice.
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>>384008841
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>>384008841
Why do Spics feel the need to ship Goku with every vagina on the screen? Are they self-inserting themselves into a horrible marriage?
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>>384008840
>PS4 exclusives

Yes, thank you for acknowledging them. So the mustards who have been saying PS4 HAZ NO GAMES just got BTFO :^)
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>>384008572
Agreed. Super's characters focus more on fighting styles and special techniques to stay relevant over the general raw power and universal abilities of DBZ, it was saturated with Saiyans and Saiyan-wannabes like Frieza's goons for the first hunk of the storylines, and the second hunk focused more on unique defensive abilities (primarily regeneration), even Buu stopped using funny gimmicks when it evolved enough and just started going standard 'wail punches and toss big energy beams/balls' status. Z's movie characters like Janemba and Cooler on the other hand had the most going for them, but also have the least chance of being greenlit.
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>>384008978
PS4 has a game.
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>>384008978
I guess by that logic the Switch has games too considering the meh exclusives it has
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>>384008047

Common, man.
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IS this too recent to be included as well?
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>>384009275
Jiren's too recent, yes. Hell, we haven't even seen him fight.
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They should have just let you wager meter like Injustice
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Hit: Teleporter like Wesker on MVC3, teleporting on parts of the screen instead of based on the other character

Zamasu: Zoner throwing stuff from the stage or kachins like in the manga, some telekinesis stuff like Ermac close range, since that's how he fought Kibito in the manga

Black: Energy sword based moveset, and maybe some clone shit like when he got the asspull scythe.

Toppo: Long pokes with a grappler moveset

Kale: Broly form as an install super. Brawler and fast moveset, maybe some armor, since the real Broly would be a slow grappler.
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>>384008462
Xenoverse pretty much does this.
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>>383971164
It said absolutely nothing regarding Dragon Ball Super. In regards to having different versions of the same character, they said they'd be adding characters based on uniqueness in the way they fight. With that in mind, Kid Goku is more likely than Blue Goku, but Goku Black is a wild card. They did mention alternate costumes are a possibility, so I'd expect Blue Goku to be an alt.
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>>384009667
>Kale: Broly form as an install super. Brawler and fast moveset, maybe some armor, since the real Broly would be a slow grappler.
But Broly is insanely fast and Kale pretty much has the same moveset as him.

It would be dope to include them both as alternative skins of each other. Like Injustice 2 which has multiple characters in the same slot.
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>>384009937

Broly has more of "I don't give a fuck" vibe than Kale, like Nemesis on UMVC3, where his back walk animation is him just giving his back to the opponent. He will just go near you and grab you or armor through your shit. Kale is more of a berserker, so she would be fast and huge, something I don't think I ever saw.
I know they're very similar. Damn, every character on DBZ is, but based on those small quirks, you can come up with fun movesets.
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>>383999636
>Main Fighterz dev said she likes the new female super saiyans too.
Still waiting for the source
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>>384009274
Doesn't count
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>>384010964

Why? Because people WANT to hate Capcom for any reason?
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>>384011258
More like Capcom wants us to hate Capcom.
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>>384011378

That's true, but at least hate them for shit they deserve instead of shouting false shit like a retarded.
It would help if Capcom's marketing made it obvious you can turn it off though
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>>383994402
Piccolo would be Hyper Dhalsim while Kid Buu would be rushdown heavy with the added feature of a few good mid-range stretchy options that let him open people up.
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>>383999218
They do it on purpose. They have no interest in making games for Switch. It could sell a million and they still wouldn't port FighterZ.
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>>384010537
Lemme try to fish it out of the archives.
>>
Dead on arrival
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>>383982281
>Kid Buu only has 5 votes
>Broly and black Goku are the top two
I'm disappointed in all of you.
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>>384012240
hi capcom
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>>383982281
Bitch.
What about Bardock?
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>>383986047
>ASW should know this because most of the cast of GG and BB can stand a chance against the stronger ones. But that doesn't make a good fighting game.
Is this person retarded? There are some xrd characters who can't do shit against hte higher tiers, for Blazblue that's Noel,Bullet and Kagura, they're completely helpless against anybody, for GG it's Ram,El and Kum. How many of those have you ever seen online?
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>>384010537
Here you go family http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/06/14/dragon-ball-fighter-z-is-only-20-percent-complete-dont-expect-kamehameha-battles/

>Q: How many characters will be in the game?
>A: I can't say right now... but we can't just have so many characters in fighting game. So we will decide on who will be fun to play, as well as the character's popularity in Dragonball.

>Q: Who is your favorite character in Dragonball?
>A: Gohan. I have 2 year old daughter and she loved Gohan as well. But I am making sure that doesn't affect game's balance lol

>Q: How bout favorite character from anime?
>A: I like female Super Saiyajin from currently airing super. As female myself, I feel I can relate to her.

Some other interviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61mOrgpeD-o http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/23/dragon-ball-fighterz-producer-creating-core-fighting-game-character-variety/
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>>383987965
I started with the Black Arc and I've enjoyed it.
Watched BoG and RoF dubbed since they use BluRay instead of TV airings and also enjoyed it, stills and animation were improved over the travesty that was the airings.

Haven't watched U6 in full yet, just clips, but Hit vs Goku was good.
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>>383982281
>No one picking Captain Ginyu

Guys, this would be the best game for such a character. DUDE.... CHANGE NOW COMBOS/RESETS.

Dude, what Change Now was a move that could even effect the health bars. Like if you were about to die and you used Change Now on your opponent then killed him off. That's the most troll shit ever!


Or, keeping it safe, Change Now will be similar to Shang Tsung's ability and just change you into whatever character you're fighting against as well as changing your opponent to Caption Ginyu.

If you want unique characters/mechanics then this is one character that CAN bring that into DBFZ.
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I don't like teen Gohan. is Mystic Gohan gonna be in?
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>>383992762
What kinda assassin takes time to talk to his target if he can do this? Is this guy a sadist who enjoys watching his victims bargain,pled and beg before he kills them? He's awful at the creed then, kill silently, kill quickly, kill effectively.
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>>383982281
>no arale

What is this bullshit
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>>384013319
That would be too many Gohans. They said they want to keep clones at a minimum. And Mystic Gohan is a jobber. Everyone prefers Teen Gohan.
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>>384013414
Not a Dragonball character
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>>384006090
>comparing complete guessing rng to being able to read animations, hitboxes, and frames
what the fuck is wrong with you? Do you really not see a difference between playing a guessing game and reading an opponent? Do you really equate fighting games with mashing random buttons hoping it's the correct one?
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>>384013397
He doesn't like when the target accepts their death, so he asks them to face him as part of his code.

He can stop time so killing silently isn't an issue, almost impossible to sense his location via ki.
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>>384013567
>He doesn't like when the target accepts their death, so he asks them to face him as part of his code.
What kinda stupid ass logic is that?
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>>384013707
dragon ball logic
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>>384013397
It looks like he just wants his targets to know that they are being assassinated before he does it. He does need to try to be an effective assassin since everyone is so extremely below his league in his universe though that may change with Kale
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If they want to keep canon levels established and want to keep smallfry characters as assists why didnt they just make them assist picks only like in MVCI?

That worked. That way they could put in all sorts of minor Capcom and Marvel characters.
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>>384013534
She literally is
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>>384013707
According to him, having them not face him means that they accept their death, which is not wrong entirely wrong, if they don't face him they won't know that he's there to kill him or the one that killed him.

Assassinating does not have much to do with being silent or quick, that's AC assassins, an assassin just try to kill a target in one way or another, e.g the guy who was shot at the start of WW1 was assassinated, Lincoln was assassinated.
Hit can get away using his timekip so it's no issue for him to circumvent authority.
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>>384013853
She's a Dr Slump cameo
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>>384013945
That has appeared numerous times in dragonball
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>>383982281
>voting for Broly when he's guaranteed to be in every Dragon Ball game ever made
>same with 18
fuck that I would actually be surprised to see 16 in.
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>>384014008
As a cameo in filler because the two have a shared universe.
Goku has crossed over with Naruto and One Piece, guess Luffy and Naruto are Dragonball characters now.
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>>384014147
He's also crossed over with Toriko but nobody wants to remember that trash. Especially now that Toriko is stronger than Goku now.
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No Arale no buy
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>>384005210
Or do like, I can't believe I'm saying this, Injustice 2 and make you spend meter to win it, with thr characters talking some banter meanwhile.
>>
A bit disappointed that Trunks isn't playable in the EVO build honestly
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>>383986383
>Tao
Wasn't he confirmed to never be a playable character in FighterZ?
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>>384014356
Yes
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>>384014236
Toriko can't destroy the universe
maybe they have hax, but they can't do that
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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