Evo 2017: Smash 4

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Reminder to keep your language Disney approved.

if anyone is looking for having people to chat with, /nairomk is hosting evo with an open chat

>>383956139
>functions

>>383956171
>chatting with the Naifu community

literally the circlejerk cancer killing sm4sh

>>383956139
r/kappa is really desperate to shitpost to the point of making lies.

>>383956383
yeah, I regret going there immediately, but I don't think there's any other open chats

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>>383956139
>Functions/characters

>>383956139
>Player/Jim
>Locals/Daycare
Lel

i'm actually getting mad at randos on their shitty bayos taking out top players

>>383957032
Where has this happened?

>>383956139
>spacing spacing
>spacing microspacing

holy

>>383957032
Why?
If they loose is because thwy play better, the meta is over Bayo and she has been nerfed. If you don't know how to play against her you don't deserve a top spot.

And kameme is clearly not on point, but don't know how bad the Megaman matchup is

Kamemushi is going to get kaMEMED

>>383957231
you don't honestly think bayo is fine, do you?

>>383957452
I don't think she's "honest", no.

But you can play against her.

This Bayo is playing good. Seems to have a lot of experience with the standard combos, but doesn't do anything unconventional and abuses witch time. Kameme is not on point.

>win side tournament over ken from winners side
>lose to pools bayo

So 1 Bayo upset so far. I think we honestly might get at least 3 more.

Anybody else getting comfy with HnK and GG streams?

Post ░▒▓█▇▅▂∩(･ω･)∩▂▅▇█▓▒░ if you're a dirty Toki mainer.

>>383957759
Scratch that, I guess it's 2.

This melee commentary is boring

>>383957828
you counting Sol's loss?

>>383956139
"hit deny" instead of blocks makes as much sense as FGC saying "whiff" instead of miss. Both are stupid slang languages.

>>383956008
giv vicky gf pls

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stream for smash 4? cant find it

>>383957939
Yeah, not huge, but noteworthy.

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>>383956008
tr4sh boring af

>>383958253
/evo2

>>383957754
Random Bayonetta's are the scariest thing you can run in to at a major. She carries her players incredibly hard.

>>383958279
Memelee foxsword vs foxninja.

>>383958253
try the OP

POST
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shit characters in pools Kreygasm

is that a guy or a girl

i would fuck that either way honestly

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>>383958794
She did good.

Today we've seen Bowsers and DeDeDe's

Anyone seen something they haven't expected?

>>383959337
we just had a Palutena take a set from a Mario

>>383959203
I love my goddess so much.

>>383959337
Palutena doing well, also that fucking Ganondorf punching through a Bowser Bomb

>>383959337
Did they actually win?

>>383959579
>Ganondorf punching through a Bowser Bomb
clip?

>>383959623
DeDeDed did. It would've been impossible for him not to.

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>>383959661
Fuck, I missed it.

>>383959639
https://clips.twitch tv/AwkwardOpenGrouseTheTarFu

>>383959337
I still haven't seen any Falcos

>>383959714
It was a DDD ditto

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>>383959442
She's fun to watch.

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>>383959749
Oh.

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sup coney how's EVO

DDD'S ON BOIS

I dont think Coney has time to shitpost right now

>>383959714
Dedede on stream now bruv

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>>383960373
And hes gonna lose.

>>383960497
He's against a top player and not doing badly

I main Marth and goddamn do I hate fighting DDDs.
It's something about him that makes me get hit by the most retarded shit possible.

>>383960689
if it means anything, Dedede jumps like three tiers on FG, just like Link does

Will this ever end?

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>>383960317

there's always time to shitpost

i'm on in 20 mins tho

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>>383956139

> functions characters

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>>383962637
Coney my friend, I dunno what else to say except have a good one.

>>383962637
Are you going to unironically say "guessies" during a game?

>>383962637
>>383962827
Please do.

>>383962827

much, much more than once

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What did he mean by this?

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God damn I love Tsu's lucario

>>383963015
good man. Throw in some "functions" in there too

>>383956139
>locals/daycare

fucking lost

Holy crap, tsu's scary as shit

>max rage and aura

it's like being in the presence of death itself

>>383963184
Based

>>383963184
He's right, bayo combo is Sm4sh's wobble.

>>383963907
He's being ironic

Man, these stream managers at EVO are pretty shitty, aren't they?

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Vikki looks a lot cuter now for some reason

>>383965001
Would rape and blame on booze/10

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Discuss

>ike
based

VAMOS JALV
VAMOS IKE
VAMOS MÉXICO!

>>383965214
Why are there more MtF than FtM trannies
It makes me want to believe in Alex Jones tier shit about our water

>>383965470
VAMOS AHCE

>>383965567
https://twitter.com/JJROCKETS/status/879560767225417728

>Blast Zone Tier
Coney, TK, EE
>God tier
EE+ anyone,
>Good tier
TK+ D1
>Actually not that bad tier
Kitaro + D1
>Why tier
Brosalina, VikkiKitty with anyone
>Literally depends on who he's paired with
D1

>using dthrow for followups with ike when upthrow is better
why

>>383965727
DI guessies?

>>383965727
Still won and had great reads, he probably knows something we don't

>>383958279
>Another Sheik and Marth matchup
God Melee's boring

>>383965918
We call it follow that shit around these parts, /r/kappa.

>>383965567
There is something in the water.
Women birth control getting in the water is turning fish intersex
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/02/160203-feminized-fish-endocrine-disruption-hormones-wildlife-refuges/

Though there have been no hard studies on if this effects humans, officials are adamant this only effects fish and not humans.

>>383965567
Its because everyone puts women on a pedestal and worships them because they know how to pile on makeup.

>he actually said guessies

lmao

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>messy guessie situation
CONEYYYY

MESSY
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>guessie
/ourguy/ B A S E D CONEY

coney is our guy

ARMS!

GUESSIES

>coney is a casual and can't do the motion shrines
just flip the maze around my dude

I don't watch Smash that much anymore. but I come back for the casters. They have great twitch streams too

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>mfw I have a sweatshirt with that old /v/ meme on the other dude's shirt

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>dogemario

>picks mario
>can't not upsmash when opponent is at kill %
>dies for it
like pottery

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The funniest thing about Coney using guessie as a meme is FGC retards will clip it and try use it against smash

>>383959718
That made me smile.

For some reason I can never get checkmate to work, is there some way to buffer the up air without accidentally jump cancelling

>>383968814
can't wait until he says huggies

>>383969215
He did at the end of JK's match.

>>383964030
I think you mean sarcastic.

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r8 from best to worst.

WELCOME BACKIES

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>welcome backies

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>welcome backies

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our boy Coney does it again

ouchies

The babyspeak meme is not funny

>>383956139
this is a good picture

>>383970130
you're right, it's hilarious

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>>383969910
Frigate > 5-player Pyrosphere/5-player Norfair > Brinstar/Zebes/Vanilla Norfair > Brinstar depths > Vanilla Pyrosphere.
Imo

What's with all the Diddy?

>cloud

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>>383971026

>>383970817
Same stuff with the Bayos.
Tryhards.

>>383971183
Why are people picking Bayo? Is she still good?

>>383971426
The nerfs weren't enough.

>>383971493
T. Scarflard

>Bye, arms

What did he mean by this?

>>383969910
Kraid's Lair > All

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>R1 Pools

>her
>she

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>>383971580

Not according to this tier list Panda Global just put out on Monday using all the data they took from their power rankings.

>non-subs whispering subs to shut up about the tranny
dios mio

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>>383972518
This, what the fuck. Like if you're gonna be a MtF but you look irredeemably mannish then just be a fucking gay man, christ

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>>383972557
>all of my mains rest comfortably in mid-low tiers

feels good man

>>383972557
Isn't this based off of popular vote?

>>383972901
Of top players

>>383972557
>Robin lower than Link
>ONE Link main does well in an big tournament
>Meanwhile Dath consistently does well
People have knee-jerk reactions to this type of shit.

>>383972829

>The best character I play is Olimar, who is just "alright", just on the edge of viable, while everyone else is considerably shittier.

What a terrible feeling.

>>383972901
>>383972985

https://panda.gg/blogs/smash-bros/pgrv3-character-tier-list-1

This is the list of people who voted.

>>383972557
That's nice and all, but real results tell a whole another story.

>>383973037
People like to exaggerate a ton when someone does well with a character that is not common.

>>383973397

Actual results can and are tracked. Here's a weighted list of character scores using a weighted points system derived from tournament results of every tournament around the world in all countries.

Bayonetta: 362
Diddy Kong: 314.5
Cloud: 308.5
Sonic: 211.5
Sheik: 197
Mario: 196
Zero Suit Samus: 182
Fox: 179.5
Rosalina & Luma: 158
Mewtwo: 136
Ryu: 126.5
Meta Knight: 102.5
Mega Man: 101.5
Corrin: 84
Captain Falcon: 76.5
Marth: 75.5
Peach: 71
Ness: 69.5
Villager: 69
Pikachu: 68
Donkey Kong: 66.5
Luigi: 62.5
Greninja: 61.5
Olimar: 56
Bowser: 55
Lucas: 53.5
Lucina: 53
Toon Link: 48.5
R.O.B.: 40.5
Mr. Game & Watch: 40.5
Samus: 38
Duck Hunt: 34
Yoshi: 31.5
Wii Fit Trainer: 26.5
Ike: 26
Charizard: 24.5
Lucario: 24
Robin: 21
Little Mac: 20
Roy: 18.5
Wario: 17
Link: 15
Pit: 15
Pac-Man: 13.5
Shulk: 12
Palutena: 11.5
King Dedede: 7
Ganondorf: 7
Falco: 6
Zelda: 5
Jigglypuff: 5
Bowser Jr.: 4
Mii Brawler: 3.5
Dark Pit: 2
Mii Gunner: 1

Source: Das Koopa on Smashboards

>>383973650

And the links to the actual sources in case you guys are sticklers. I ran out of character space in my last post.

Source: The tier list V3 thread on smash boards keeps track of all tournament results, here's the page where Das Koopa most recently updated character scores.

https://smashboards.com/threads/4br-tier-list-v3-competitive-insight-analysis.445990/page-122

>>383973397

Do you still feel like Bayonetta isn't that good despite top players in the Smashboards tier list and the more recent Panda Global tier list voting her as the best, as well as her having the best results of any character, contrarian anon-kun? ;)

I feel like coaching is cheap.

>1500+ entrants
This is probably the most I've seen from Smash 4 tourneys

>>383974049
Last 2 evos had over 2000, iirc.

>>383973993
It is, but good luck changing it when a bunch of butt buddy TOs get to decide the rules on everything.

>>383973650
>>383973930
Fair enough, point taken.
>Do you still feel like Bayonetta isn't that good
Not as good as some players make it out to be, I do think she is a very powerful character and among the top ones, but just not above others like diddy or even sheik.
And by the results, I'm only seeing Bayos consistently in good places, but not even top ones.

Did someone just see that larry set up

>>383974554
yeah he's a monster