The Open World Meme

pete

And before anyone memes it up, Fallout 1 and 2 and the first Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasies are not Open World games. They're open, but their scale is average. Open World games require the scale to be sizable.

The Witcher 3 is the worst Witcher. Final Fantasy XV is among the worst Final Fantasies (although XII and II are worse), Breath of the Wild is easily the worst Zelda Nintendo has ever developed (so no CDI meme games), MGS V is the worst Metal Gear Solid other than MAYBE 4 and PW.

It's no coincidence, open world ruins games.

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>fallout wasnt open world

>>383945991
>sheeple
>waking up
lol

botw was the first good 3d zelda though

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>>383945991
> subtle Life is Strange/VN general

>>383946106
>it's not open world if the open world isn't big enough based ony my own arbitrary specifications i wont get into
Nice try.

>>383946316
>An exact total of 7 locations in an overworld map that scales it all down
>Open world
lmaoing @ you brainlets

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>>383946316
These are the only places that the Fallout game devs actually made maps for. The rest of the overworld is just random encounters. There is no copy-pasting anywhere.

>>383946106
when you have to reply to the counters to your argument, before they were written, you realize that your argument was without merit

it's an admission of defeat

>>383946228
If by worst you mean bottom half, sure, but barely. F2F has never had a great batting average. 3, 4, 10 and 13 are all worse, easily.

>>383946663
>When you have to argue, it means you lost
Open world tards, everyone

>>383946636
It's like they realized wandering across vast nothingness between actual landmarks was really boring
Nintendo still hasn't gotten the memo

>>383946042
and repeat were in a boat. pete fell off. who was left?

>>383946439
>the overwrorld map is smaller so its totally different
lol

>>383946847
Nintendo is always 10 years behind everyone else. They just now got the memo that open world is the cool new thing.

>>383946917
Nobody was Left, there was only Repeat and Pete.

>>383946998
Pete and repeat were in a boat. Pete fell off. Who was left?

>>383946979
>"""smaller"""
>Literally 1/1000th of the scale

>>383947131
>this changes anything at all
lol

>>383947080
The other person besides Pete? Where are you going with this?

>>383947207
It changes everything

>>383946439
>>383946636
"Open World" is by definition a free-roam sandbox.Doesn't matter how many locations it has.
A desert completely devoid of any locations would still be an Open World.

Don't try to reinvent words to fit your narrative faggit.

>>383947274
Way of the Samurai confirmed open world

>>383945991
Shut the fuck up retard

>>383947250
>functionally the same thing
>but instead of going 10 miles its 2 miles
>its totally different
lol

>>383947250
No because open worlds aren't definited by size but by virtue of being open.

>>383947274
To be fair I think there's a big difference between sandbox and open-world games. Technically Dino Crisis is an open world game but it's very small so nobody considers it one.

>>383947415
>instead of going 1000000 miles, it's 1
>its totally the same
lol

>>383947467
>Dino Crisis
By that logic, Resident Evil 2 and 3 are open world.

>>383947491
>its not an open world unless you go 100000 miles
lol

>>383945991
Nice repeat of the same thread earlier today, faggot.

Way of the Samurai confirmed open world
Dino Crisis confirmed open world
Is Metroid open world too?

>>383947491
>Pac Land isn't a platformer, it has 1/1000th of Super Mario World's content!
lol

>>383947467
>>383947567
Seems to me that the logic fits. If that's all that takes to be an open world game, then all those three of those games are open world.

>>383946228
All wrong you stupid contrarian. Now stop spamming this shit thread.

>>383947651
Yes.

>>383947670
Nevermind, my man. It's been decided. You're right, scale doesn't matter at all. Resident Evil 2 is an open world game now.

>>383947831
Good we could come to an agreement.
/thred

>>383947831
I should hope so. Otherwise Pac Land is a Hoppy Boppy High Score Floppy instead of a Platformer.

>>383947831
Resident Evil 2 isn't open world

>>383946228
>although XII and II are worse
I meant to say XIII and II, not XII. XII is good. Definitely better than the open world garbage that is XV.

>>383947467
>>383947567
Never played them but if they are like Dino Crisis then yeah they are technically open world games.

>>383948064
Yes, it is, faggot.

>>383945991
Don't forget to repost this shitty thread every day for years to become the next ebin meme!

>>383948273
No

>>383948420
For him to spam this meme as much as the open world genre meme has been spammed all over otherwise good games, he'd need to make one thread each 12 hours for the next three years, and that's not counting MMOs

>>383948434
Yeah

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>>383945991
>tfw you saved Forza

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>>383945991

Zelda and Final Fantasy started off with open worlds.

Final Fantasy shouldn't have open world since it focuses on linear story events. Their eventual change to linear 'hallways' was actually a smart move, though it didn't fix the myriad of other issues the series has.

Zelda should have an open world since it is suppose to focus on open exploration and free roaming. BotW and Link Between Worlds is finally returning to what Zelda should have been from the beginning.

>>383948838
>Original Zelda
>Link Between Worlds
>Open world
Nah

>>383945991
>You killed Fallout
F3-4 aren't even Fallout games, they are Fallout-themed TES games.

>You killed Metal Gear Solid
V slightly improved upon 4's stealth.

>The Witcher
>ZELDA
These latest iterations are arguably among the best, if not the best in the series.

>FINAL FANTASY
If you think this only got bad recently I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you hate open-world because it doesn't work well with movie-games.

Open-world is harder to implement but that's because it's the future. At its basic definition, it simply means the player should have more places to play in and explore, more content. Less limitations. It's like saying higher graphics ruin games just because they demand so much development resources. Yet both increased choice and higher graphics, increase immersion. You want things to be retrogressive.

>>383948913

>Original Zelda
>not open world
How does it feel to be a total idiot?

>>383945991
>YOU KILLED THE MOTHERFUCKING LEGEND OF ZELDA!
This is a stupid thing to say.

In fact, if it had traditional dungeons, BotW would hands down be the best game in the series.

>>383949120

Open world really isn't the future. If anything, we're starting to see a downswing in open world games because they require so much more effort from developers. And people buy games the same whether they are linear zones or open. You're going to see a big switch back to linear story games in the coming years. The exception will be Sony who tries to rush out a bunch of clones of BotW and Mario Odyssey.

>>383949279
It doesn't have traditional dungeons because it's open world

>>383947274
By this definiton Metroid Prime or metroidvania games in general are open world

>>383949373
It is the future. The ebbs backward, or "downswing", back and forth, between linear and open-world, are short-term fluctuations. In the long-term the trend continues, precisely because it will demand less and less resources as time goes on (what with better content-generating algorithms, only the main content needs to be hand-crafted).

Proof: the examples of "downswing" you post will probably contain less linearity than even some "open-world" games of previous decades, not to mention the linear games of those times.

>>383948913

Choke on your own feces, braindead retard.

>>383949813

The technology necessary to do what you're saying is a long way off. Developers are circling back to linear story focus because we aren't anywhere near having random areas generated. Star Citizen claimed they were going to do this, yet it didn't work. And they're finding that they have to hire people to hand craft planets.

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>>383945991
i think you need help

>>383950254
>The technology necessary to do what you're saying is a long way off.
It already exists. Much of the content in the most renowned open-world games are procedurally-generated.

>Developers are circling back to linear story focus because we aren't anywhere near having random areas generated
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/all/filtered
How much of these are explicitly open-world? How many of the rest are less linear than the linear games of 20, even 10, years ago?

>>383949781
Yep, all metroidvanias are open world games

>>383949373
Wrong, both linear story and open world games are likely going to die out in favor of soley multiplayer experiences (see MOBAs, Overshits, Pubg)

>>383953884
Worst end

>moviegames
>open world
>multiplayer

canker

>>383945991
A point.
Fallout was barely a memory when it was bought by Bethesda.
They quite literally brought it back from the dead.

>>383945991
>witcher 3 is bad
Stop being a fucking faggot. Witcher 3 was perfectly average and the open world was not the reason why it was that low. Haven't played the others to give enough of a shit about them.

>>383955303
they gave us skyrim with guns. you had to wait for obsidian to fix the monster they created.

>>383955303

Bringing back a game by making it worse isn't really a good thing. It would be like if someone like SquareEnix bought the rights to Suikoden, then made it a shitty Final Fantasy spin off with runes added.