Honest thoughts on the Halo series?

Everything went to shit around 3

>>383934995
Didn'y buy 5 because there was no split-screen.

>>383934995
I love it, I'm one of the few actual Halo fans on /v/, /v/ doesn't have 2D Metroid or FPS Halo fans. They try to act like fans but they're really not. They will say shit like Halo s, ODST and Reach had the best campaigns, Super Metroid is the only good 2D Metroid game all the other sucks and the Prime series is better, talk shit about Metroid 1-Super and Halo 1-3, and try to force you to like their shitty fan games. If you want to talk to real Metroid and Halo fans go to /vr/, /vg/, other and websites like Metroid Database and Halo Archive, don't come here. Even Reddit has a better Metroid and Halo community than /v/, what a pathetic fucking board this is.

>>383935695
*Halo 2, ODST and Reach had the best campaigns

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>>383935114
>>383935278
f2pbp

Three was kinda alright but not as fun as the first two, wich were great co-op games. ODST and Reach were passable i guess if you liked the earlier titles. Didn't bother with 4.
When i heard there was no split-screen in 5 the series was officcially dead to me.

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Do you think with halo 6 coming to PC along with most of the past xbox exclusives will incite MS to give us MCC?

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It went from being one of the best communities to a shit-flinging community of children.

Even Bungie.net devolved into a trash heap of what we titled as "Desticles".

I really liked everything 1-to-Reach. Halo 4 was ok, didn't bother with 5, but applaud the dedication to 60FPS. This is based on the campaigns.

>>383934995
CE is my favorite campaign
2 is also a really good campaign
3 has a massively disappointing campaign
ODST is incredibly underrated
Reach is the jack of all trades and master of none
4 has an underrated campaign
5 has one of the worst campaigns ever created

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>>383936353
>2 had a better campaign than 3

>>383934995
Went to shit after the best game, Reach
but /v/ will never admit to Reach being that good because muh bloom and muh retcons

>>383936545
t. underage

>>383936451
Remember my post earlier, /v/ aren't real Halo fans so they say shit like Halo 2, ODST, and Reach had better campaigns than Halo 1 and 3 just to troll.

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>favorite is Reach
>no Reach

>>383936451
Oh shit, ma /lg/ niggas.

Your opinion is shit though. 3 had levels that genuinly got me groaning whenever they came up. The horrible flood level being the absolute breakingpoint for me.
The only actually memorable thing of 3 for me was hijacking the scarabs with planes and seeing some of the fore-runner architecture. The rest is a blur of rooms i didn't particularly enjoy.

Everything after 3 is garbage.

>>383936451
Not that anon, but I agree. Not counting the ending, 2's campaign was much better. It is an overall better game. 3 was too slow and clunky, the maps were stale, and the multiplayer became cancerous.

>>383936451
Yeah it was twice as long and had an interesting story with Arbiter's viewpoint
It was more linear than CE, the Flood became bizarre (though H2A fixed this by making Gravemind look cool), and the ending sucked, but I'll take it over H3's any day

>>383934995
overrated as fuck but decent

343i a shit though

>>383934995
Good series overall.
Reach and 4 were garbage, but Halo 5's fantastic multiplayer gives me hope that 343 can turn it around with Halo 6, all they need is a decent writer to end this otherwise mediocre trilogy on a high note. Halo 5 lacking split screen was a deal breaker for a lot of people, but the game itself is remarkable if you're a fag with no friends like me.

>>383936701
That's because Reach has been backwards compatible for months now.
Retard

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>>383934995
It was great for the first half of it's existence. The Bungie games had a united community behind them, with a lot of creativity and passion. They were games that were designed to be fun and encouraged replayability. Even after Halo: Reach came out, Halo 3's community remained strong. a testament to how good the early games were.

The seams began to fray by the time Reach came out. It wasn't a bad game, but it has the preface for what would happen when 343 was finally given the reigns. Halo fell off the cliff after 4. the community became fragmented. What's worse, retention rates were awful. the new games were not pulling in the next generation and the old guard had been split. people would buy Halo 4 or 5, play it for a month, and then drop it. The book/comic lore was shat on as well, with terrible novels written by Karen Traviss. At this point, they should just abandon the series. Make something new. Of course, MS is incapable of this now. For all the negative talk that Nintendo gets around here, the Xbox brand is the one with no real future. It isn't just Halo either. Have you seen the new gameplay for Crackdown 3? It looks terrible.

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>>383935695
>I'm one of the few actual Halo fans on /v/
Stop.

Peaked at 2. Really sad to see the Halo 2 doc where theyre having to cut shit or leave shit out due to Microsoft. I wonder what it wouldve been like if they had another 6 months or a year to finish it they way they wanted it

>>383936006
Reach was good if you admit that it was a swan song game to just do what they want with the game. No longer tied to the story of chief.Though it did birth the shit known as destiny

I have fond memories of Halo CE, bits and pieces from Halo 2, and I'm pretty sure I played Halo 3 as well, but who the fuck knows. Never touched the series after that because they stopped giving a fuck about the single player/couch co-op and started focusing solely on the PvP.

>>383936451

1 and 2 had more engaging plots. 1 was the mystery of the flood and Halo's purpose. 2 introduced the covanant's civilization, their civil war, and the flood hivemind. 3 was just "okay lets go kill everyone we met in the second game".

Never played the other halos, not even sure how they even continue the story cause the original trilogy was pretty specific there are 7 Halos and MC destroyed them all at once. Do they find a new evil race that's mass producing halos or something?

>>383937294
Crackdown 3 looks like the first Crackdown, which is good for fans of the first game (the people a sequel should be aiming to please). I'm personally looking forward to it

good until halo 4
shit since halo 4
halo 2 had the best MP
reach is underrated
ODST was overpriced

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>>383937410
Reach was supposed to be a massive, full scale battle. It was the largest UNSC military installation after Earth. The only thing that came even remotely close to that sense of scale was the space battle and even that was one small part of one small area above the planet.

>>383937294
This was the stupidest scene. Halo 4 showed that the II's were still a full foot taller than IV's yet here we have them practically the same height.

>>383937302
Shut the fuck up, you faggots are not fans and didn't even like the franchise at one point. Stop acting like you like the series now you fucking PCunts.

>>383935278
>get the game for 40 bucks just 2days after the release
>drive 400km back home to play on the we with my little bro
>wait 2hours of the game to install
what a fucking disappointment

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>>383937845
I played custom edition on a 26k connection. Go be gay somewhere else.

>>383937729
Bungie said they bent the X360 as far as it could go before snapping

>>383937294
I was disappointed that Locke didn't get his ass kicked any further.

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MCC literally could have been the perfect game, and they fucked it up.

>>383935695
Explain the existence of battle rifles in halo wars for the basic marines and the scarab on harvest 20+ years before the rifle was released and the scarab never being mentioned in the first contact book.
I knew then they were just gonna milk the series. Halo wars was the red flag that made me stop. I still own my copies of 1 - 3 and keep them in the halo 3 legendary edition mjolnir helmet case. Far as I'm concerned, the chief is still in cryo stasis because it was fitting for how the series started.

don't have much experience with halo games except some random multiplayer splitscreen stuff with friends. that was okay maybe even fun but mostly it felt like generic pew pew generic scifi shooter

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>>383935695
>I'm one of the few actual halo fans
>/v/ isn't as good as the communities of reddit

1 has best campaign
2 has good campaign and solid multiplayer (until 1.1 and beyond fucked it up)
3 has a campaign that drags too much but it's cool, has the best multiplayer
ODST lol
Reach has the best campaign below the first but okay ish MP
4 and 5 never happened.

>>383938040
https://www.reddit.com/r/halospv3/comments/545mhs/spv302_released_download_for_all_users_inside/

Casualshit. Killed FPS genre and did irrepairable damage to vidya as whole. I really wish that people would still shitpost Halo threads to oblivion like they used to do before nu-/v/ invaded and became the majority.

>>383938104
Hopefully by "they" you mean the literally who devs that MCC got outsourced to. The fucking thing was sloppily compiled into the broken amalgamation we know as MCC, which is why the game was broken at launch.
Obviously not an excuse to release a broken product, but there's little 343 could actually do to save it

>>383934995

Campaign:


Multiplayer:
5 > 3 > 2 > Reach > 1 > 4

Campaign:
3 > 2 > ODST > Reach > 1 > 4 > 5

Both the 1 and 2 anniversary campaign is better than their OG counterparts.

>mcc is such a flaming dumpster fire they just add back compat instead
Shame about lower res and framerate but honestly better in the long run.

Halo 5 mp is kinda fun tho. Is the campaign worth playing?

>>383938040
An I bet you bitched when the game was exclusive to the Xbox for 2 years, fucking PCunt.

>>383938175
PvP or Co-op?
While PvP was kinda neat at the time, sitting down together to play the campaign split-screen co-op is where the first games shined.

>>383938469

I fucked up and put campaign twice lol

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>>383938331
>best multiplayer
>All custom games are now: Let's play infection or jenga for the 1,000,000,000,000th time
>Matchmaking filled with scrubs, boosters, and retarded playlists
>The game is just boring to play
>best multiplayer

>>383934995
1 was fantastic, 2 and 3 were OK, odst was good and the rest are garbage

>>383938476
*And

for multiplayer
Halo 5
for campaign
Halo 4
Halo wars 2 was pretty nice. I don't know why it didn't sell well.

>>383938331
>1 has best campaign
People like to throw around the word literally pretty liberally around here, but several levels of CE were literally going through previous levels in reverse.I'm partial to 2 because it was the most fun to get out of bounds and screw around on. campaign and multiplayer with super bounces. They added way too many invisible walls/pushback barriers in in 3.

Reach was okay. It would have been nice for Noble Six to be an actual character instead of SUPER SEKRIT SPESHUL AGENT autist who never speaks. The supporting cast was good, even if shit like Kat's death made absolutely no fucking sense. 4 is toilet water. Haven't finished 5 yet but I might some day.

>>383934995
They'll stop beating that dead horse when it stops spitting out money

Stopped playing when 343 took over

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>>383939295
>Haven't finished 5 yet but I might some day.
For your sake of time and mental safety, don't.

>>383938476
Halo PC port sucks anyway so it's not like it matters

>>383937294
The books have actually gotten the best they've ever been once the travis triology ended, we've had like 10 different books come out since then and all of them have been great.

Also the travis books themselves weren't that awful aside from the last one, the first 2 were below average but not actually bad.

>>383938472
>Halo 5 mp is kinda fun tho. Is the campaign worth playing?
No, 5's MP and forge are good but the SP is a complete waste of time.

>>383938331
>until 1.1
Was that when they patched the death machine dual weilded needlers? Jesus Christ those things were insane. No dual needlers was a house rule at every lan party until the map packs came out and had patches on the disc.

>>383938146
Halo Wars is the Metroid Prime series of Halo, who literally gives a shit. It's a completely different series that's canon with the main series.

>>383938253
You guys are shit, and you're community is shit, you fags would argue who's shit look better than who's. Before Halo came to PC all you faggots did was shit on it because it was better than you shitting copy and paste maze shooters.

>>383938146
What's wrong with Halo Wars?

>>383939850
True

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>>383940630
I'm about halfway through Envoy. The only real complaint I have is that for 200 pages to have passed, there have already been five character POVs. Jesus christ man just focus.

>>383940740
I can see you're upset, anon, and that's okay. Being passionate about things can be a good thing. That being said, halo has been on PC since 2003. It was trashed on /v/ when both of the games, 1 and 2, were out on pc. Halo 3 wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back. That being said, you must never have found yourself in a late night Halo thread because those are comfy as fuck.

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>>383940740
>who literally gives a shit
Why is it always retarded people with the most vocal opinions?

>>383941069
I actually still need to read hunters in the dark, fratures, new blood, smoke and shadows in addition to envoy myself, i'm pretty behind on stuff.

>>383938426
Quake 4 and Unreal tournament 3 all came out after not just the first Halo game, but after Halo 2 as well. Halo didn't kill anything, CoD4 did in 2007.

>>383941069
I wish we have more comfy FPS Halo or 2D Metroid threads on /v/, I want to enjoy talking about the games without it turning into a Sakamoto/343 hate threads or constant Bungie dick sucking when it was clear as day they were going downhill after the trilogy.

>tfw nobody ever talks about one of the few things Halo 4 did right, which was the scoreboard changes that actually gave you scoreboard points for playing the objective and shit in CTF and assault and so on

>>383941229
Well it's true, the Halo Wars series is niche and different from the main series, it's best not to really compare them.

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>>383941393
>I want to enjoy talking about the games without it turning into a Sakamoto/343 hate threads or constant Bungie dick sucking
That's a balance I don't think you're ever really going to get in any Halo discussion, though. The Bungie Era spanned nearly a decade, so the number of people who started with CE, then 2, then 3 and so on is so staggered there will always be intense nostalgia for each entry. Best you can do is ignore retards and just focus on the discussion you want to have. If others take the bait then that's just the way she goes.

>>383941796
I'm just going to have to, I'm going to try to ignore bait from Metroid and Halo threads and try to enjoy myself in them.

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>>383941551
The Deathstar trench run level in 4 is a pretty amazing show of good design in an otherwise questionable campaign.

>>383938457
>there's little 343 could actually do to save it
Delay it? They still were the ones in charge
They could have at least fixed it post launch, it still has problems, inexcusable

>>383938457
>>383941956
Except all of the indivual game builds in MCC are fine for the most part, it's the networking and menus that are the buggiest parts, which is what 343 actually did for it.

>>383938469
This 5 multiplayer being good meme needs to stop

>>383941953
>>383941551
What are the positives to Halo 4?

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>>383934995
I love CE and 2 and replay them often.
Dunno about the rest, never played them since I never got an Xbox after the first one.

>>383934995
I love Halo 1 and 3's campaigns, like Halo 2's campaign, felt that Halo 4 had a decent campaign that had its fun moments but could have been better, Halo 5's campaign, well at least the level design was fun.

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>>383941956
>They still were the ones in charge
MCC launched in November 2014. Xbone sales tripled from October to November. In what fucking universe was 343i in charge? Frank O'Connor wasn't going to walk into Phil Spencer's office and tell him to hold off on tripling his sales for bug fixes when they were openly getting beaten by the PS4 in the US.

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>>383942070
I love that level

You have a containment thread, stay in it.

>>>/vg/182450685

>>383942056
The scoreboard changes in MP, as mentioned.
Regicide was a pretty fun game mode.
The graphics were actually pretty fucking impressive for a 360 title aside from the shit texture resolution, the lighting legit almost looks xbone quality in MCC
The Storm rifle was a good additon to the weapon sandbox, and in general, the weapon balance wasn't as shit as it was in 2 or 3 (but arguably a step down from reach)
The covenant weapon redesigns were good.
The scope visual updates were cool, IMO.
The music, while not marty tier, is pretty good and actually did a good job at giving the campaign good atmosphere in the same way CE's did.

>>383942070
>>383942486
I just wish it had taken place more in the actual swamp instead of more tube corridors and elevators. Then again, Backwash in Halo 2 was basically exactly that and that map was kind of terrible.

>>383942070
>>383942486
How about the anniversary version?

>>383942476
He probably should have, cause MCC came out and ruined 343 and Halos reputation
MCC was a reason to buy an XBone, now it's a reason not to get an XBone

>>383942056
A lot of what this guy said >>383942539 and that the campaign was decent with some fun moments.

>>383938040
Reminds me when I used to host CE games on my toaster and play with /v/. Fun times. I can't believe it was 6 years ago already.

>>383943246
We've been waiting for SPV3 for 6 years now

>>383942729
I haven't played it but from what I've seen I really don't like the way it looks

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>>383934995
>master chief collection didnt work on release and literally has never worked and will never work

>backwards compatibility xbros! now we can play our favourite children's game in glorious 30fps on our xbox scorpion x !!!!!

GET THOSE PRE ORDERS IN NOW

>>383934995
I had such a great nostalgia dream of enjoying the multiplayer on what was some strange map that existed only within my dream. So it wasn't a real official map.

I just really miss that classic style gameplay. It is never coming back and before you fags mention it, no Halo 5 is not a good substitute. I don't care how much you meme it it will never be true.

You just can't beat that simplicity of simply jogging, hopping and shooting your br at the opponents head for a kill. NU-HALO doesn't compare and nothing else comes close to this style of gameplay.

I'm interested in where 343 will take Halo 6 and beyond,
>focused on Master Chief
>focused on Blue Team
>simple stories
>new writer
>split screen
>lan
>Forge Lead is now Multiplayer Lead which could mean they're moving away from eSports since it's failing now
>black undersuits
>all multiplayer features at launch
I wonder how the game will be, the fact that Microsoft and 343 haven't talked about Halo 6 leads me to believe that there could have been a major change in direction.

>>383945761
can they bring back elites in multiplayer

>>383947021
dinofags are the worst

>>383934995
It was great when it was in the hands of the people who made it and loved it as it was. But now it's stuck in the hands of people who are just doing it to make money for Microsoft. They don't care about what Halo is, they just see it as obligatory title and character inclusions to make a product for profit.

>>383945761
Even with a new writer, they'll still be stuck with the shit story that was Halo 5 to build off of. The multiplayer in 5 was great IMO aside from all customization being locked behind the shitty RNG boxes.

>>383938457
It still baffles me to this day that Microsoft/343 would outsource the definitive Halo collection of all the previous works

to fucking pajeet in india who eats spicy curry and poops in the street and wipes his ass with his hands.

Microsoft is a company ran by a bunch of fucking monkeys.

>>383947686
They needed a Halo game to sell consoles. 343 was already working on 5 so the abomination of MCC was made to hold people over until it was done.

>>383934995

Reach was the last good one, after that the series went to shit.

>>383934995
Still my favorite scifi game series. No other franchise pulls it off like Bungie did 1994-2010.

>>383939216
Best opinion of the entire thread

>>383947879
Sadly it worked. Even I bought into the MCC meme and I got my XBONER in 2015. I can't resist classic Halo.
After buying Halo 5 too though, it has solidified that I will 100% not purchase Halo 5 unless they remove sprint/ground pound/armour charge/movement "boost".
I hope Halo 6 crashes and burns so hard. I don't even care if it may lead to no more Halo games. Nu-Halo has to stop. This game needs to stop being dragged through the mud.

>>383941282
And Quake 4 and UT3 were the worst games in the series. COD and Halo didn't do shit they killed themselves by releasing mediocre games.

>>383939216
What did you like about Halo 4's campaign? Also, thanks for reminding me about HW2, been meaning to pick it up.

Is marathon any good?

>>383948174
>Sprint is bad meme

How to spot a shitter every time.

Yes sprint is unnneccasary, but it doesn't even remotely detract from the game as sprinting around like a retard is a sure fire way to die everytime

>>383948532
It being useless and unnecessary is why it's bad.

Why is sprint even in the game?
To speed up combat, when you could just do what Bungie did for a fucking decade and design the map to be more compact, something like Midship?

We both know it's simply in the game to appease other audiences familiar with a more """modern""" gameplay style, and entice them to play Halo.
But it didn't work.
They didn't give a fuck.
Now we have gameplay broken up into a completely different style for no fucking gain. No fucking reason.

No doubt, knowing how to use sprint is a skill in and of itself on Halo 5. If you sprint around like a fucking retard without a clue you'll get bodied real quick.
I understand the mechanic very well, I consistently land high Onyx when I play Halo 5. However it's still fucking shit and it's not what Halo should be.

>>383948072
>No other franchise pulls it off like Bungie did 1994-2010.

Explain

>>383949068
>it's not what halo should be just because I don't think so

>>383949845
Jason Jones was an SF reader. The original team brought the subtleties from SF to the games. Marathon and Halo always felt this way, focusing on the individual while placing him in a very expansive world that is full of mystery and slim on political-heavy lore that makes expansive worlds often a lot more mundane than they need to be.

>>383950337
Not an argument.

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>>383950853
the first Halo borrowed heavily from ALIENS and Ringworld. It's not blatant, but its still pretty obvious

>>383951398
Starhammer more than ALIENS. A lot of SF in general.

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>>383936701

>>383950337
>it is what halo should be because i think so

>>383942056
Best Cortana design

>>383934995
Its dead but it can be rescuitated for another few years by giving the original three a budget PC port one at a time with online MP by virtue of their quality and nogastalgia.

Can somebody explain to me what was wrong with 4?
I've played all of them except 5 and 4 was my favorite.

>>383952979
It's good. I just didn't like how they handled Cortana and the Didact. Didact was such a shit character.

>>383949068
Sprint is so-so. Lots of modern gamers have shorter attention spans, so they need action always. Even for veterans, it takes little away.

ADS is a bigger problem by a long shot. Loadouts(thank god they're gone) and reqs are also more of issues than sprint

>>383952979
Loadouts and poor maps. Campaign was good tho

>>383953169
>I just didn't like how they handled Cortana and the Didact. Didact was such a shit character.

Why?

>>383953169
but (in my pininy) 4 did the most in the series to that point of humanizing both cortana and the chief

>>383953409
Shame they pissed it all away in H5, huh?

>>383953314
>loadouts
>bad

What

>>383936179
why would you even want that turd

Nice lore

>>383953464
Didn't even play 5 what happened in it?

>>383937563
MC didn't destroy all the Halos anon, idk what game you played. He destroyed one in CE and then the replacement for that ring in H3. That's it.

>>383942031
>Except all of the indivual game builds in MCC are fine for the most part

no. every game except 4 and H2A is broken in some way.

halobugs.com for CE's failures

>>383953392
The shit with Cortana felt too dramatized. I liked when you find her in Gravemind at the end of Halo 3, but her standing in front of you human-sized seemed overdone. And they pushed this too much, I thought it was overdone in Halo 3 even.

Didact isn't subtle enough. He's way too reckless the moment he's brought back. I guess you could say my standards were raised too high for any forerunner to end up impressive to me, so I would have preferred to just never see any of them directly.

>>383953464
I'm glad Brian Reed was fired for it, Tim Longo and the rest of 343 just wanted a split between Blue Team and Osiris, Reed wanted to recreate ODST and Reach by pushing Osiris more than Blue Team which was a massive mistake.

Lost interest after ODST, the series is a magnet for squeakers.

>>383953868
>except 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IzC3r3VgRU

The water is also fucked in mcc for Halo 4. No ripples

>>383953874
>The shit with Cortana felt too dramatized

in a game series where every fucking character except Johnson can be described as wet cardboard, Cortana gains some character and its too much?

>>383937075
but is it 60fps?

>>383936451
uh, yes?

>>383952498
>>383951082
Correct, both are equally subjective positions. Niehter of them are a valid argument or counterargument.

>>383952582
For fapping, maybe, as a character design for her it's shit.

>>383953314
The campaign was "good" only compared to other FPS titles at the time, it was a step down from 2, 3, ODST, and Reach's.

I don't think the map design in 4 was that bad though, it was about on par with 3's, which, while a step down from CE and 2, was much better then reach's.

>>383953476
Halo is at it's core an arena shooter. Having even starts with weapons and powerups as on map pickups is sort of a key part of the genre and what makes Halo halo.

I wouldn't have minded 4's loadout system in a specific game mode, but as the default it was a mistake.

Also, ordiance was shit no matter how you slice it.

>>383953868
I said "for the most part". Also, regarding CE, MCC's CEA port is actually the best version of CE around for the campaign, as it combines the higher resolution and framerate of the PC port while fixing the animation and shader issues the PC version had.

>>383953874
This regarding cortana. 4's story had a solid idea but the execution was garbage, cortana is reduced to a sullen, scared mess with temper tantrums. It's embrassing.

I thought the didact's writing and dialog was super well done though, it's the only element of 4's story I actually liked.

>>383954235
She's always had character. She shows plenty of depth in the books and even some subtler naunce in Halo 2's cutscenes, and Halo 3 showed her as rampant and aggressiver and scared as well without it being a mess. 4 just did a shit job in particular.

>>383954235
She had more character in CE than any other game though. That was the only game she felt like she had spunk.

>>383954193
i honestly should have known better

>>383942056
halo 4 has the best version of "never forget"

>>383954428
>Also, regarding CE, MCC's CEA port is actually the best version of CE around for the campaign, as it combines the higher resolution and framerate of the PC port while fixing the animation and shader issues the PC version had.

Look at the sky in Assault on the Control Room

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>>383954438
>quippy one liners=character

>>383954772
There was supposed to be a "some" in front of shaders.

Some are still busted, but some are fixed from the PC version

https://youtu.be/C6NSm54ImcA?t=2474

goes into it.

>>383934995

Played 1 2 and 3, thought they were neat, haven't played a game since.

My game must have been fucked in 3 because I beat it on Legendary and didn't get the part where he goes to sleep at the end so I thought he was dead and the Halo 4 came out and I thought for the longest that it was some dumb retcon so I didn't care, I eventually found out I did something wrong but didn't care by that point

Series got ran over by CoD in terms of popularity

>>383955075
Her character was no deeper in Halo 4 dude. At least in CE her role felt more important, you needed her to be able to parse the forerunner tech or take down the shields and a variety of other things, and she even learned about the purpose of the ring and exposed it to you. In 4, I can barely remember her significance, overall she felt less interesting.

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Boring memefest.

>>383939295
>Noble 6 never speaks
You didn't play it recently, did you?

>>383955364
in 4 she was afraid of dying motherfucker

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>>383955256
It isn't a shader. It's fog.

The engine is limited and the ports are bad.

>>383955530
If halo 5 played like this it would have been amazing, but it's the same shit as always except now they copied black ops 3. God, i wanted halo 5 what Doom4 turned out to be.

>Bought an Xbone because it was cheaper than the GPU I wanted
>Excited to play Halo 5
>They cut splitscreen so I wait for a sale (WHY THE FUCK DID THEY CUT SPLITSCREEN)
>Get the collectors edition on sale for $20
>The extra contents are garbage and so is the campaign

I'm just going to say it - the new enemies are fucking boring and the plot is a dense dull mess. Is there any hope for 6 lads?

>>383955660
So you are saying that that fog being gone alone negates the benefit of the higher resolution and framerate?

You can't be that deluded.

>>383947169
Say that to my mandibles, Unggoy, not on the battlenet, see what happens

>>383955846
Yes, 343 fired the lead writer.

Also for those who hate the new visuals, 343 hired the guy who did Halo War 2 visual style which is fucking GOAT

>>383955660
Man I'm glad Halo 1 and 2 will be coming to BC eventually.

>>383955971
They're both on the mcc with old graphics, so why bother?

>no reach

>>383955856
Nah, I'm saying that Halo ports are destined for broken assets because they are basing it on Halo PC.

>>383955947
>343 hired the guy who did Halo War 2 visual style which is fucking GOAT
Wait WHAT?!

>>383934995
Halo on PC when
I want to replay the campaigns but shootan on controller is fucking cancer.

>>383956045
Because they're not the shitty PC ports.

>>383938469
>5 has best multiplayer
literally halo: cod, fuck off nu/v/ trash

>>383934995
Is Halo Wars 2 good?
Can I play as Sangheili?
I've been playing a shit load of HW1 on Steam but I want something new.

>>383956147
I don't understand
What's wrong with the mcc version of ce and 2

>>383942486
Me too.
Fantastic reveal mid game for a secondary antagonist.
>>383942729
Never played it but the brighter square areas don't suit it as well from the videos I see.

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>>383939295
>glitching out of h2 maps and getting the scarab gun
my little mind was fucking blown

>>383956246
They have many of the problems there PC counterparts had, some of those problems been fixed in the Halo CE PC port on MCC but some of the others are still there.

>>383956073
Something I heard in another thread, trying to find a source right now

>>383956415
OH SHIT! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH SHIT!

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>>383956147
>Fix the issue with the shuttle bay door on A50 missing its off shader.
>Fix the Longsword missing its multipurpose map.
>Fix the missing shield flare for the Master Chief’s shields when recharging.
>Fix Cortana not changing colors in Halo’s Control Center.
>Fix issues with fog on several levels.
>Fix some other graphical issues caused by the port from Xbox to PC.
>Fix the off-center elevation markers inside the Sniper Rifle scope, and modify the Sniper Rifle scope overlay to look more like the Xbox version (namely, saying 10x, as opposed to 8x, for the 2nd level of zoom).
>Attempt to fully fix the sentinel shield problem.
>Fixed several instances of missing multipurpose maps and shaders, such as for the Assault Rifle and Halo ring (thanks to Bungie for the original assets and to various community members for bringing them to Custom Edition).
>Addressed issues with Jackal and stationary shields. Because of the rendering engine for Halo on PC, these issues can’t truly be fixed.
>Fixed fog in the exterior areas of B40, so that it looks just like what can be found on the Xbox.
>Fixed several lightning effects, such as those found in C20 (The Library) and the Monitor’s lightning tendril.
>Fixed a couple of instances of objects having incorrect impact materials.
>Addressed Sentinel shields so they aren’t constantly visible on Sentinels that don’t have shields at all. Though I think, due to some issue with the modifications Gearbox made to CE’s engine, I can’t seem to get the shields to appear only when damaged.
>Fixed an issue with health packs on A10 (Pillar of Autumn) and D40 (The Maw) that were on the ground when they were suppose to be on the wall.

http://haloce3.com/downloads/singleplayer/modified-singleplayer/mosess-refined-campaign/

>>383935114
After 3 was precisley when it went to shit. That was a perfect opportunity to end the series but nope

>>383956407
>They have many of the problems there PC counterparts had
>but some of the others are still there.

https://halotupolev.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary-comparison-review-and-analysis/

>>383956246
>What's wrong with the mcc version of ce and 2

halobugs.com

>>383956537
>>383956620
And yet from Anniversary you still don't get the original sounds and HUD, stop shilling me your games already have the better Halo 1 and 2 on me and I will play the ORIGINALS on BC now fuck off.

The Bungie-era includes some of my all time favorite games of all time. Halo 2 being my favorite Halo game, and probably my 3rd favorite game ever. Everything changed when 343 came in, and not for the better.

Off-topic, but who else remembers Red vs. Blue and Arby n the Chief? I was watching the latter earlier today, man does the humor not hold up.

>>383956978
>And yet from Anniversary you still don't get the original sounds and HUD,

In MCC they do, they fixed that from the 360 version of it. You have a classic audio option.

>>383956978
regarding CE, MCC's CEA port is actually the best version of CE around for the campaign, as it combines the higher resolution and framerate of the PC port while fixing the animation and shader issues the PC version had.

>>383956219
pls respond

>>383957152
>>383957154
I DO NOT WANT MCC! Stop shilling!

>>383937610
Has there been confirmation of an offline mode that doesn't take advantage of the destructible environments and the cloud power stuff they were showing off? That's what I'm worried about mostly

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>>383957293

>>383957293
>correcting you on your misinfo is shilling

>>383956219
I only played the beta, based on what I have heard the consensus is that the mechanics of HW2 is better but the single player is worse then the first one

>>383940832
Not him but personally I don't think Wars is a bad game, he's just pointing out that at that point with so many canon inconsistencies that the Halo series was beginning to become more of a skin to sell software

>>383957525
>Reddit
You have to go back.

>>383958021
>Halo series was beginning to become more of a skin to sell software

Wasn't that why 343i was made?

>>383955743
>released before BO3
>copied BO3
Huh, really makes me think

>>383938457
MCC ruined 343i and Halo's reputation. You can try to shift blame onto other devs for MCC but the average person who picked up MCC at launch after being hyped up to relive the Halo 2/3 days and got an unplayable pile of shit laid the blame solely on 343i because their name was plastered all over it. Add into that that most Halo fans thought 343i's Halo 4 was sub par, their rep was in the shit house after that. It doesn't help them that after that they released Halo 5 which was also a huge disaster, their reputation basically can not get any worse at this point, everything they've touched has been a fuck up.

>>383959430
They should have sold H2A MP as a separate package

Reach is definitely the best one in the series

Reach>3>1>2>ODST>4>5

>>383961110
Speaking of Reach, the map packs are free now

>>383961919
Only Defiant, Noble is still $9.99 or 800 MSbux

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In halo 6 Spartans are gonna fucking die
Not just from osiris
Fucking blue team is gonna lose someone
Cortana has got mad plans and if anyone gets between crazy yandere bitch who has the entire galaxy with an explosive collar to its neck she going to brutally fuck them up
I swear to fuck if it ends up being kelly im gonna cry

>>383961974
>Halo Wars DLC
>2mb

Bravo, Microsoft

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>>383959430
My friend and I were so hyped to play H2 co-op and on launch day we couldn't even get that shit to work. A month and several patches that did nothing later he hold his xbone and bought PS4. RIP.

>>383962649
sold his xbone*

>>383962067
At least we're not losing the Chief.

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>>383951398
>tfw its canon mickie chimped out and got the rookie killed

>>383963336
That's not confirmed yet

>>383934995
Console fps kino

Shouldn't Chief had wiped the floor with Locke when they fought? Or was he not going 100% until Locke took out the armor lock thing?

>>383965286
He was holding back as John has shown signs of not ever wanting to hurt a comrade but once locke got in the way it was over

It was a simple FPS where everything was done at an above-average level. Quake and UT both had extremely indulgent character designs and plots. Halo wasn't necessarily the better game but it was more complete.

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>>383934995
Reach > 2 >1 > ODST > 3 > 4

Redirect complaints to my dick.

Why does reach have a bad reputation? I thought it was great, would've been top tier if they took out armor abilities and reticle bloom

>>383966470
That's exactly it. It's a really arcadey game where people could stack the best armor abilities (Jetpack ftw) and break some maps because of it.

Of course caring about balance in a Halo game is just silly.

>>383966470
I don't get the hate for bloom, it's better then in 3 where every gun just naturally had spread out the ass.

Bloom at least makes it controllable and was a good thing for autos.

>>383965286
>>383965735
MC DID wipe the floor with locke, locke like got 1 good hit in and that's it.

>>383935114
>3 was the best in the series
>Reach was great
>Halo lost its magic at 4
>Know you shit

>>383936186
I thought the thumbnail was some crazy spurdo

I think one of the main problems with the games later on in the series from a story perspective was the fact that being a Spartan was no longer special. For example,

Spartan II's
>Kidnapped at a young age to train until adulthood in the most rigorous exercises you could think of
>Genetically augmented to give faster reflexes, stronger bones and muscles, and unmatched speed which most of them died during it due to extreme pain or being incompatible with the augments
>Given armor and AI assistance to increase their effectiveness and skill even further.
>Were rare and become more rare as time went on due to a limited amount made due to budget cuts and suffering causalities usually after fending off thousands of enemies in last stand efforts.

Spartan III's
>Composed primarily of vengeful orphans from fallen colonies
>Trained even harder than the previous generations
>Were described as expendable
>Primarily sent on suicide missions
>Most died on those missions after noble sacrifices

Spartan IV's
>Adult Volunteers
>Given power armor for basically free
>Still can't match up to spartan II's effectiveness
>Snarky fucking cunts are allowed to say shit to the chief and not get their fucking necks snapped.

>>383964287
They already confirmed it in the interview of doubling down on more Chief for all future FPS Halo titles going forward, Kiki went on to say in a podcast that Chief isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so sorry to burst your bubbles Chief is staying, forever.

>>383968830
And this is directly because normalfags kept bitching about locke, now we'll be stuck with suspension of disbelief breaking bullshit where cheif is the only important character and the mainline story never stops and it's dumbed down for casuals

And /v/ supports it

>>383967675
IMO it's the same problem the Crysis series had.

>Nanosuits are one-of-a-kind made for the user, bodies get burned to a crisp if the user dies
>There are some korean knockoffs, but are amazingly inferior and can't even hold a candle to the OG nanosuit.
>Suddenly, every fucking PMC in the world has a Nanosuit.
>The one you're wearing is ultra super special, though
>Whoops, nvm, it wasn't.
>Now guerillas hiding in an urban jungle have them.
>No reason, they just do.
>Also they're apparently commonplace
>Everything about them is turned into generic shit

When the mystique of a very special/rare item gets abused, the story suffers.

>>383963336
>>383964287
>>383968830
>>383969145
Chief is the only thing thats making Halo money. 343 knows this so they are just gonna keep milking the shit outta it, so there is no way they can afford to kill off Chief

>>383969145
>And this is directly because normalfags kept bitching about locke, now we'll be stuck with suspension of disbelief breaking bullshit where cheif is the only important character and the mainline story never stops
This is a problem because?

>>383969380
This

>>383969743
>This is a problem because?

Do you not know what suspension of disbelief means?

Microsoft are retarded for letting go of Bungie because they wanted to make Destiny.

Seriously, Destiny could be been an Xbox exclusive.

>>383953609
>muh shitty online
I just want to play the old games in 4k 60fps

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>>383970146
>Seriously, Destiny could be been an Xbox exclusive.
no, it couldn't have

bungie didn't split from microsoft because MS wouldn't let them make destiny, they split off for the independence.

bungie's plan was ALWAYS to become a multiplatform studio to reach as many gamers as possible, the only reason they fell under the MS umbrella for halo was because they needed that initial money to make halo happen.

If CEA was a port of Halo PC, then is the AI different? I've been replaying some Halo: CE on my 360 and while checking out some graphical differences between "classic" mode on CEA and Marketplace CE I noticed that the Banshees and Elites in the beginning of the mission 'Halo' behaved differently between the two versions. Can somebody confirm?

everything after halo reach killed the series, the additions and changes fucked everything

>>383969914
>Do you not know what suspension of disbelief means?
Yes, and I don't care. Halo is video game series and like Metroid where I want to play Samus and with Halo to play the Master Chief.

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>>383970489
>they split off for the independence.
>then they sign a contract with activision to make destiny for ten years
why tho

>>383953874
Ditacts face is horrific. What a terrible design for the forerunners.

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Hello I helped kill Halo multiplayer.

>>383970650
>video game series means it needs to be unrealistic and ungrounded

>>383971893
Yes, that what it means to be a video game. You want realistic and grounded, go play Sony's garbage exclusives.

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>>383972140
Shit opinion anon. Halo lore has been grounded since the start.

It can be stupid and over the top, but in ways that don't interfere with still feeling grounded. Having MC be part of the series forever isn't one of them.

>>383972140
>>383970650
this is the stupidest thing i've read in like a week.

>>383972301
>Halo was always grounded
>space donuts that can kill all life in the galaxy
>plasma working the way it does
>The Flood
>Engineers (biological supercomputers)
>Hunters
>Spartan II augmentation
>Spartans capable of anime bullshit
>grounded
Kill yourself

why can't 343 make a good character

>>383972570
Get the fuck out of this thread you fucking Sonyigger.

>>383935114
/threat

My honest thoughts:
Pretty over rated
Mostly boring
Nostalgia goggles

>>383945761
I really want 343i to blow us away with Halo 6. Not gonna lie. I was surprised in E3 for no announcement for the big 6, but glad they didn't.

it alright

>>383972723
All of those things, in the lore, are handled in a grounded fashion. Halo lore is actually almost more hard scifi then it is soft.

You don't read the books, do you?

>>383972789
i've been a fan of halo since before CE even came out you pleb

>>383973156
Me too, I hope they finally hi the ball out of the part.

>>383947370
Congrats. You just defined business. No matter how much some company says they love on what they're doing, in the end they just want (need) money.

>>383973392
Then you are fucking stupid, Halo has never been grounded not even once, maybe you should learn the meaning of hard and soft sci fi because Halo isn't hard or even close to it you dumb nigger.

>>383973572
I'm well aware of the difference.

>>383936664
Or they genuinely like them. There's nothing wrong with those campaigns. Go fuck yourself

>>383936991
You are wrong

>>383937505
This

>>383973662
I don't think you are.

>>383973937
I am.

Maybe you are just drawing the line at what counts as a sufficient enough level of explanation for the actual fictional elements involved. Halo may have a lot more fictional elements then most hard sci fi, but most are explained in a much higher level of detail that's more grounded at it's base level then most soft sci fi.

It's in between the two.

>>383939216
Stop

>>383941229
the empty can rattles the most

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My favorite Halo games are in order
2>1>5>3>Reach>4

>>383974089
I can agree to that, still doesn't change the fact tat the Forerunners and Flood are pretty much Soft sci fi while the Covenant weapons are impossible.

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>playing Halo CE
>On the mission 'Keyes'
>discover this terminal next Keyes's dead body
>mfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkShBrt2oZg

>>383974886
>putting 5 above anything else

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>>383974886
>5 above anything
You're the reason the series is dying

>>383974886
1 is too high but decent taste otherwise.

>>383974990
I'm iffy on calling forerunner stuff soft due to how absurdly in detail the forerunner novels go into depth on how oit works in their society.

Like, yeah, it's essentially space magic, and precursor stuff is just cosmic horror bullshit, but it goes into such depth with how it's used, why, the impact it has to them on a day to day basis, etc, that you could argue cryptum, if nothing else, is almost more hard then the other halo novels.

>while the Covenant weapons are impossible.

I'm really not sure where you are getting this from though. Plasma can be shapped by magnetic fields, we can do this IRL, the only fantastical element of covenant weapons is their ability to shape said fields at a distance for it to act as projectiles and the energy storage/batteries needing to powe them being beyond what we can do currently.

I don't think either of those 2 elements are fundamentally so out there that they are that inexcusable, those are easily things that we could make substantive progress on in the next 500 or so years.

>>383934995
1 was fine
2 was KINO
3 was meh but MP was gud

I dunno anything about the others but i think they're garbage

>>383975235
The series is dying because all the bitterfags can't accept any change even when it brings good things like improved spawns, actual weapon balance, decent FOV and framerate, and steady FREE content after release to hugely bolster the total game and shy away from map packs and other money grubbing shit. Most of the problems at release were ironed out and it's a very enjoyable game now.

>>383975485
5 has legit problems, though. You are right that a ton of people just hate 343 on principal and ignore that 5 does a lot of things right, but it's not JUST anti-343 fags.

>>383975237
Because the way plasma works in Halo isn't how it works in real life. Even in the future, we will never be able to use plasma the same way the Covenant do. The Spartan augmentation is also impossible because what was put in Spartan IIs would kill people in real life.

>>383975225
The concept of the story was good but the game's campaign was horrible. I know people asked for different perspectives in the game but having to play mostly of a character other than Chief was pretty stupid.

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>>383975485
>decent FOV
>anyting under
>FPS
>Capped at 60
???

>>383934995
It was never good. Halo 1 was the best and was still only mediocre as hell.

>>383975934
meant to say anything under 100 kill me

>>383975934
It's a fucking console shooter, relative to other Halo games the performance is pretty solid outside of enemies going powerpoint mode when they're really far away on big maps. Just preface everything I said in my post with "for a Halo game" if you want to ignore what kind of thread you're in.

>>383975607
People in the future may surprise you. Do you think people 10,000 years ago could've imagine a flat rectangle that can project "moving pictures" with such high quality in it. (It's called a TV)

>>383934995
3 > 2 > 1 > Reach > ODST > 5 > 4

>>383975607
Can you clarify on the plasma note?

>>383975951
CE has the least amount of content, worst visuals and audio, a low amount of enemy and weapon variety, barely any story, and reused copy pasted assets out the ass.

It's not nearly as good as the sequels.

>>383976094
This is a bad arguement.

>>383976151
Here please. --->>>383975225

>Halo 3 campaign will soon finally be on PC thanks to ElDewrito
Thank you based mother russia for that Halo Online shipwreck

>>383976269
5 is legitimately better than 4 in nearly everyay

>>383976082
Halo 1 and ODST had a splitscreen FoV of 108.

>>383976202
How's it a bad arguement?

>>383976427
the soundtrack and missions are worse.

>>383976481
Gameplay is thousand times better though

>>383976475
I'm assuming the other anon is saying based on the laws of physics as we know them it's impossible.

Yes, it's possible those laws are wrong or we'll find some quatnum mechanical bullshit that changes things, but it's pointless to assume that because you might as well "what if" anything at that point and it's pretty unlikely.

>>383976529
I don't disagree.

>>383976202
>Can you clarify on the plasma note?
http://halofanforlife.com/?p=1582
This site should explain it better than I ever could.

>>383934995
It's so fucking boring and slow.

>>383976590
You're right in the "what if" part but I still wouldn't understamate. It might not be exactly how in fiction but maybe somewhat similar. Just like "the iron man suit" the military is building despite not even looking nearly as close as an iron man suit in the comics.

>>383969145
????? Halo is fucking casual central

>>383977121
Halo hasn't been popular with casuals in a decade, after CoD4 or so all of them moved onto that franchise instead

>>383970740
same reason as the MS deal

given the size and scope of destiny, acti was really the only publisher with the bills to provide them tbqh

plus it's not like acti flat out owns them like MS, and they get to be multiplat this way

>>383972723

>genre is the same thing as tone
>if a story has fantastic elements then it cannot have realistic writing

>>383975485

>The series is dying because all the bitterfags can't accept any change

That isn't why Hall is dying. The opinions of veterans don't matter because it's not the vets that keep a franchise alive, it's the new blood. Halo 1-3 was successful because the game's population grew with every installment- the hype from each game drawing in new fans.

The real reason for why Halo is dying, is because all games die.

>>383978527
the sad truth

>>383978527
>what is Mario

>>383978680

a game that hasn't broken any sales records in decades and whose numbers are unnoticable due to being a SP game

>>383978263
>realistic writing
I never said Halo shouldn't have realistic writing, I said Halo isn't realistic and grounded in reality in the slightest.

>>383978918
>I said Halo isn't realistic and grounded in reality in the slightest.

which would be wrong

>>383979119
But it's right

Halo 1 was the only one with a good story. 2 and 3 were horribly written and more than 50% of the "Story" is MC doing irrelevant shit.

>>383978867
Must break sales records to be good

>>383979291
Apparently.

>>383979198
You could not be more wrong. CE barely even has a story.

>>383979715
Explain yourself.

>>383979824
90% of CE's story is just justification to moving from mission to mission. The only real story events is

>PoA being boarded
>PoA crashing
>Keyes Kidnapped
>Keyes rescued
>flood unleashed
>Guilty spark showing up
>Halo function reveal
>Guilty spark betrays you
>Keyes being the proto gravemind and getting his neural link
>MC and Cortana escaping.

There's basically no actual narrative structure or characters or any sort of story threads beyond the main one.

>>383934995
Ruined FPS games.

>>383980163
Why does there need to be anything more than the points mentioned?

>>383980163
So all of the Halo games are poorly written garbage. And people complain about Halo 4's story...

>>383934995
This question is the ultimate test to find out if someone had friends in their late teens/early adult years. Anyone in the age bracket of 24-28 would have played at least one of the first 3 games at a LAN party if they had real friends. The games themselves could be complete garbage, but those great memories are enough to cloud judgement and make a person remember them as masterpieces.

>>383980586
There doesn't need to be more, but it's stupid to imply that it's better then having more then that assuming the "more then that' is well executed.

>>383980651
2 is actually well written.

>>383980253
see

>>383941282
>Quake 4 and Unreal tournament 3 all came out after not just the first Halo game, but after Halo 2 as well. Halo didn't kill anything, CoD4 did in 2007.

>>383979291

Where the fuck did game quality enter the discussion? Try to keep up

>>383980841
I liked it best because it was self-contained. The other games focus too much on the opposition's motives and it ruins the mystery.

>>383980972
I don't get that. What is there to be gained from mystery of the covenant's motives and inner workings? Especially when how 2 and the lore handles covenant society actually really well

"you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

>>383981156
They're aliens, they don't need to follow human rules at all. If they really wanted to flesh out the Covenant's background, it should have been from the humans' point of view. Also the Flood.

Halo multiplayer died with Reach and the campaign went to shit with 4 and on. Halo 5 is such an unoptimized pile of shit that it's a shame because H5 custom games is actually fun.

>>383980878
Both CoD and Halo are responsible for killing off FPS for good.

>>383981405
>They're aliens, they don't need to follow human rules at all.
And they don't, so what's the issue?

>>383981405
This

>>383981720
Starting with Halo 2, they've been giving the aliens humanity.

>>383981797
u wot

There's a difference between making them characters with motivations and goals and making them like humans.

The arbiter and other elites in the games still have a very inhuman mindset shaped by alien culture. The obession with honor, for example.

>>383982000
What more motivation did we need other than "they want us dead"?

>>383973156
>blow us away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSgQGKZocDA

>>383982208
This

Theyre all pretty great, barring Halo 4

CE is alright looking back, definitely changed the fps game for the better imo

H2 is the best, arena MP will never be better than what it was in H2. The campaign was also pretty revolutionary, switching to control the arbiter blew my fuckin mind when i was younger

H3 was not quite as good as H2 but still incredible, XBL coming into its own made the MP fucking incredible, alongside forge mode it made for some of the most memorable nights of gaming in my life.

ODST was also great, but in a different way from the first 3, the atmospheric environments coupled with incredible level design made ODST a truly memorable experience. The story was also pretty great

Reach isn't as bad as everyone says, but its still not incredible, the improved upon forge mode made MP with buddies still very memorable, and the invasion MP mode was awesome. Campaign was also good, but not without its faults. Last mission is god tier

H4 probably the worst in the series, shit MP, Shit campaign, and while the forge was improved upon even further, Halo was already kinda dead so i never really played it

MCC was fun for replaying the 3 main campaigns, and was neet for custom games for a while, but the matchmaking being so shit kept me away for it for a long time. I went back and tried the MP again and its pretty much seamless now, matchmaking times for 3 slayer being like 30 seconds. Forge also got better again in H2A, but the game was dead a week in so it never saw use

H5s campaign is absolute shit, though i like the idea of blue team, seeing 4 spartan IIs in a squad was pretty cool. H5s MP however is the best its been since H2, its very different but it feels tight and fluid, and the guns all feel great to use. Forge mode in H5 has reached its peak in terms of possible uses. That, coupled with H5s modest popularity has made for some seriously incredible custom game creations.

I never played Halo Wars 1 or 2 but i hear they're pretty good

>>383982208
>>383982310
You didn't need more, but having more is nice.

>>383934995
It's fun

>>383980163
I think it's fine because it's the first in the series. You start by thinking the aliens are the threat seeing as they kidnapped you officer, but realize the larger threat that is the Halo.

Halo 2 start almost the same way with
>being attacked
>ending up on earth, spending a stupid amount of time doing Master chief things that have nothing to do with the overall plot
>Keyes is kidnapped
>Halo reveal (but this time we already know what it is)
>Someone want to activate it, kill them
>Someone else want to activate it, stop them
>The flood are en route to earth now
>cont. in H3

>>383982984
I'm not saying having barely any story is a problem with CE (though it does exacerbate the tediousness), but it's still something that isn't as good as halo 2, by comparsion

>Halo 2 is almost the same
In key events, maybe, but there's a lot more meat to it. There's actual character development, multiple story threads, and a lot more nuance and implications then in CE with stuff like envorimental storytelling.

>>383982984
>ending up on earth, spending a stupid amount of time doing Master chief things that have nothing to do with the overall plot
Uh Halo 2 was supposed to be about Master Chief saving Earth, humanity, and the galaxy from the Covenant and Flood, so what you mean to say is you spend a stupid amount of time doing filler shit as an alien, also don't go around trying to explain why Arby's side was relevant because you won't change my opinion on how I felt about Halo 2 just in case you decide to make a lengthy explanation of Arbiter's side of the campaign.

>>383983613
>WAH HALO SHOULD ONLY BE ABOUT MUH BOY MC

>>383983753
It should, leaving it at that.

>>383983906
No, fuck off.

>>383983906
That's retarded.

Halo has always been about establishing a fictional universe. The first book came out before the first game. Bungie itself has always focused on expansive lore.

>>383984071
Games > Books > everything else

>>383984012
Too bad this is the future of the series >>383968830

Better get use to it.

>>383984071
I thought Bungie hated the books?

3>1>2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other halo games

>>383984285
They do, he's a lorefag

Hey Folks,
Bry has hit the nail on the head:

: Halo 'canon' can quite easily be viewed in a similar way as the kind of canon
: system in place with Star Wars.
: A certain hierarchy of priority.
: In other words, different levels of canon where the higher levels will
: override the lower ones whenever there is a contradiction.

Everything that Bungie has ever approved is canonical. But even then, certain things trump others. In order of canonical influence:

- The games rank first
- Published materials (books, comics, soundtrack liner notes etc.) rank second
- Marketing and PR materials third

And there's one codicil: the more recent items trump the older ones. So, for example, if some aspect of Halo 3's fiction contradicted Halo 2's, Halo 3's would be the gold standard.

Bungie doesn't like to retcon (i.e., deliberately change previously established facts), but sometimes it's necessary. Take for example the issue of the number of human worlds. The truth about the "800+" number? That was made up by a non-Bungie employee and never approved by us before the Halo: CE promotional website went live.

As for some of the other issues raised, chiefly Jenkins' age and UNSC foot-dragging on fielding the BR55? I will only say that some marines have spent a very long time in cryo-sleep and that putting an entirely new weapon into service during a war -- especially a war that spans multiple star systems -- is no small order.

That being said, I'm constantly impressed by how close attention you all pay to the details. Don't ever stop keeping us honest! And we'll do our best to keep you reliably entertained :-)

- Joseph

>>383984302
Holy shit, that's my ranks.

>>383984285
it's not that simple.

There was some intial hostility with the first one, but it wasn't so subsquently, and most of that lore itself was made by bungie to begin with anyways

>>383984405
except 90% of the stuff from the novels was from material that joe staten himself wrote, and joe has written halo novels himself.

Also I don't see what that even has to do with this disscusion.

>>383935114

I will say Halo 2s multiplayer was the best, I unironically played MLG and loved every second of it. Although I really liked 3s campaign. 2 had the worst cliffhanger.

The MP basically died at ODST and the campaigns didnt get any better after that. They wanted the CoD audience and killed their unique IP because of it.

>>383984491
Joe wrote 2 Halo novels bro and when the books had something Bungie didn't like in them, they would change it.

>>383934995
>microsoft brought the games back with BC
>but aren't going to do Windows 10 only ports with crossplay
They literally could have had the Halo revival and driven tons of people to Windows 10 and Xbone. Oh well.

>>383984642
Sure, but the only time that really happened was Halo Reach

3 had the worst campaign of the original trilogy.

Reach is still my second favorite online, next to halo 2.

>>383984716
happened with the Halo the Graphic Novel as well, Bungie didn't like how First Strike handled Johnson's escape from the Flood so they retconned that with Halo the Graphic Novel.

>>383959430
I don't think H5 was a disaster. What do you base this on?

>>383984674
You can simply solve your problem by buying a Xbox One X, if you don't want a Xbox then I guess that means you don't want Halo.

The most overrated video game series of all time. The original admittedly stands as a monument to technical wizardry in games,; the level design might be a joke but the physics engine is unlike anything else and there were brilliant ideas at play re: shooting firearms. And I'll admit that the multiplayer makes for an excellent party game. And of course without Halo we would not have Rooster Teeth.

But that's it. Everything in the series past the original game has been the most mechanically stagnant, overhyped, lazy, uninspired, UNPLAYABLE dreck in the history of gaming. The fact that it is taken seriously to this day as a property is an embarrassment to video games as an artform and medium.

>>383984830
Oh, that's true, there's the whole johnson immunity stuff, I forgot about that.

>>383984990
I'd very much like you to clarify, because unlike most people who suck CE's dick you actually seem to have some good reason and have thought this out.

My opinions are thus >>383976202
>CE has the least amount of content, worst visuals and audio, a low amount of enemy and weapon variety, barely any story, and reused copy pasted assets out the ass.
>It's not nearly as good as the sequels.

>>383984990
I'm sorry, everyone has the right to their own opinions but you sound like such a gaping fucking faggot oh my god

>>383976202
>It's not nearly as good as the sequels.

What do the Halo sequels do better?

>>383982358
>tfw your post gets cut short due to text limits and no one replies