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Evo 2017 Day 1 Melee

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Amsa on main stream
Discount amsa on Evo1

Who are you looking forward to seeing?
Who do you think will win?
Why has the eternal Jew Smash 4 stolen the Sunday spot?
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Jesus Christ I always forget how swaggy Yoshi is
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is it just me or are the commentators going hard on chillen right now?
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>>383926957
Can anyone tell me if hax was actually allowed to use the box, or just did it?
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>>383927331
Boxx is legal, and technically macro's aren't even banned at evo, but I doubt he's going to mod the box for macros for one event
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>>383927331
idk but there is some falco on stream with a gravybox
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I heard wizzy got sponsored, which team do you guys think picked him up?
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That hax performance was emberrassing. He was fucking camping some scrub and barely won.
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>>383927441
NWA after he said nigger live on stream
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>>383927589
20XX baby
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>>383927589
Based on the commentary, I think light was probably initiating the camping, and hax just didn't want to risk approaching. Not johning though hax was making scrubby decisions.

>>383927595
clip? That lad has m2k levels of autism
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>>383927589
nah fuck peach
if that's what you were referring to
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>>383928009
I don't have a clip because I don't have autism, sorry
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>>383928009
I think it was during a rap for Smash Summit
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>>383928009
>Based on the commentary
They were wrong, but it's toph and scar so why would you trust what they say anyway
Hax camped from game 1 stock 4 on
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Waifus for Wizzy!!
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>>383928207
Evo is best of 3 instead of 5, so a loss of a single match is much more relevant. I still hope hax never comes back, fox is cancer.
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>>383928936
NTSC with PAL fox standard when? Also remove puff but that's another story.
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Which stream you niggas watching? Let me know when there's a neat set coming up.
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so whatever happened to that vid of Shiz doing opioids on his stream?
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>pools
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>>383929148
>29148>>383928936
Literally no reason to not accept the other PAL changes too you fucking retard. Are you really this stupid?
If you think Sheik not having free everything on everyone is a bad thing you need to off yourself. Marth Dair is a good change too. muh cool looking combos
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>>383926957
>the Sunday spot
That's good news for me.
If only they switched Tekken and injustice, then all the good games would be on Saturday.
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>>383928936
>fox is cancer
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>>383929546
>removing marth dair spike

Do you actually mean this?
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>Tafo
See you guys tomorrow
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>>383930041
Marth is objectively much better in PAl even with the "nerf" because of his weight change.
Also, the PAL dair sets up for kills and combos much easier. If you think him not having a spike changes anything you are literally retarded.
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>>383930119
toph and scar on the other one
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>>383930119
it's scar and toph on /evo
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>melee has literally 4 times the viewers
>no dinsey so no sunday slot xd
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>>383930196
The dair spike allows him to kill faster and more reliably, which is one of his biggest weaknesses, I guess. But, the meteor smash dair does set up for free follow-ups, so if you get a grounded dair you can just reverse dolphin slash or fsmash or something.
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>>383930216
>>383930239
Oh, neat.
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>>383926957
Why do people consider Sunday the good day? That's the day people need to go to bed early for work. It's the day people are most aware of Monday being the next day. Saturday is the day you can jack off and do whatever and however you want for the entire day. Saturday just always made more sense to me
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What starts tomorrow? Top 32?
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>>383929546
Shit nigger maybe if you didn't main a midtier you wouldn't be so angry about sheik chain grabs. I think PAL is shit because it fundamentally changes the top tiers kits, except for fox. Fox was only toned down, and I think he could still be competitive in NTSC. I'm all for fixing the mid/low tiers, but as a player I care much more about the top tiers.
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>>383930505
48-completion
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>>383930402
>grounded dair
lets not pretend he's falco. the only perdon who does it now is vro, he does side-b's like nobodies business
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>>383930473
It's more hype to be on final day and sunday games are in the big ass arena

But I agree it's better for people with a job, for example it starts at 5AM here so I wouldn't have been able to watch on sunday
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>>383930402
Are you fucking kidding me? Marth is the gimp master and not only because of his dair. Literally 90% the times a marth does dair, he could easily edgeguard with another move as well. It's only "cool" which you factor in.
The only matchups where marth misses his dair spike in PAL is peach and jiggs and both of these aren't even good arguments as you get actual kill setups with the pal dair against those, which you did not have in NTSC.

>>383930534
You have no idea what you are talking about. Fox is arguably not even the best character in PAL. He's outright broken in NTSC. Kill yourself for trying to provide opinions on things you clearly know nothing about.
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What major players are there
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Scar just said "motherfucker" on stream. Who do I complain to? I have seven children between the ages of 10-14 years old and they're watching the stream.
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>>383928027

I wanna fuck peach if you know what I mean
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>>383930713
>Fox is arguably not even the best character in PAL.
i get that marth getting knocked down is big, but lets not be ridiculous
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tfw forgotten how to appreciate watching smash
i used to enjoy this
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>>383930902
Yeah keep telling me things about versions of melee you never play.
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>>383930713
> Fox is arguably not even the best character in PAL
He still has the best neutral spread in the game. His punish is the only thing heavily affected by PAL. He's still the best.
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OH SHIT AMSA'S AT EVO WTF
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Amsa on /evo1

>>383930930
wait until pools is over
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>>383930713
>hurr kill yourself
Why is the Melee community so fucking awful?
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>>383930930
pools is never fun to watch because it's just a bunch of idiots who have a general idea of what to do but not enough to get them anywhere in the tournament
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>>383930776
All of them.
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how the fuck is this legal!? AMSA's committing sexual assault on stream!
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>A japanese playing a german at an american event

look how far we've come
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>mango will lose to plup again
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THE EGGLAY

AMSA IS IN FIRE
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>>383930713
>If I tell him to kill himself that means people will think I'm right!
You know getting angry and acting incredulous whenever someone disagrees with you isn't really an argument. Got any evidence to support your claim besides
>you don't know what your talking about
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I was not excited for EVO until I learned aMSa was here.
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who is m2k going to lose to?
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>>383931601
Ice Climbers.
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>>383931667
I cannot believe we got toph on one stream and tafo on the other. holy hell
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>>383931526
>>383931126
>They think I'll try to have serious arguments with some unranked scrubs that probably never went to a tournament in their lifes on an anymouse image board
fucking lel kill yurself my guys
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>Marvel players

kek
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>>383929546
>>383930713
why do you think people only like dair because it's cool you seem so confident
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>>383931852
Do they have 2 Melee streams going on at once?
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>>383931945
Because there is no other argument for crying about PAL marth changes. He only benefits.
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>>383931868
>repeatedly telling people kles when he can support his claim and start discussion instead of shitposting
go outside
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@383931868
Ah, so you're just baiting.
Good luck getting those replies.
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>>383931852
It's hell.

Who will comment during finals? If it's toph and scar I can go neck myself right now.
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>>383932126
>@
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>>383932005
There's no need for more than one argument if that argument outweighs all the others against it.
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>>383931994
Sometimes
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>>383932168
100% scar and toph I wish toph would fucking retire already
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>>383932204
its to not give him (you)'s, although simply deleting the >> would suffice, yes

you see what youve done kys-kun? How are we going to back on topic?
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>>383931868
https://www.ssbwiki.com/European_Melee_Power_Rankings
>BUT F-FOX ISN'T THE BEST
>MARTH ONLY BENEFITS
>K-KILL YOURSELVES
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>>383932295
Why not hmw or d1 or blur or wife or tkbreezy or literally anyone else who isn't tafo, scar or toph, jesus christ, how unlucky can we get?
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How badly did you fuck up your fantasy?
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>tfw you unlock the power of teether/edgecancelling by understanding guaranteed analog drift setups
Holy shit, even low tiers become super fun to play.
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>>383932494
wife sucks ass
blur is bias
d1 is doing smash 4

hmw/phil are probably gonna do top 32

so not many options really
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>chad mains sheik

this is wrong on a fundamental level
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>>383932295
>you blocked him out so many times you just hear muffled words
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SHIZ

WIZ
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>>383932763
I know lots of chads that main Sheik.
It makes sense when you think about it since you don't have to practice that much and have more time to fuck bitches.
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SHIZ
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>>383932876
I hope we get to see him go up against hugs or mikehaze
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dis white boy bout to get all 9inch of the shiz
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isnt this the convicted felon negro

how is he allowed in
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FFAAAAAAAAALL-CCCOOOOOOO
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>>383932630
Damn I missed out on DSW, I'm kinda betting it all on florida and chu
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>>383933014
Not a felon, just a bunch of misdemeanors
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>lose your stocks or lose your teeth

what would you do
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>>383933129
he went to jail for assaulting a gas station attendant
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>tfw gotta watch a lame ass sheik ditto just to not hear tafo
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>>383933327
who hasnt anon, it just happens so easily.
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Tafo and Webs really occupy polar ends of male attractiveness.
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>>383933327
*Rob
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>>383933401
who's rob
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>>383930782
Teach your kids the meaning of curse words and the appropriate times to use them, you lazy fuck.
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>>383933327
>>383933327
he dindu nuffin
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>tfw no more prog & d1 commentary again

Guess I'll have to deal with know-it-all Toph and socially akward Tafo.
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Tafo without glasses looks like Milhouse without glasses
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>>383933327
Yeah, not a felony. Still wise to be weary around him though, as the old saying goes. Around blacks, never relax.
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Hey guy arguing for fox being broken.
You're objectively right, but majority of /v/ are twitchtards who only want fastfallers
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>>383933481
Is this a felony?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oak5LypXNsc#t=3m7s
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>>383932445
>The best player is literally peach
>The second best player is Leffen who has so much skill he could be on that spot with mew2
>The third best player, like the ohter two, is fucking top 20 in the world
How do you even credit these as "fox mains" and not as "these guys are ridiculously good at the game"?
You really need to kill yourself.
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>>383928936
I hate Hax pretty much solely on the fact that he's a walking meme and proud of it. Every word out of that annoying fuck's mouth is "20XX Fox Fox, falcon sux muh ledgedashes"

Not only that but every time I see him play on the boxx he's completely underwhelming, dude just needs to shut the fuck up and fade away
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Haven't played or watched competitive Melee in years. Who are the best players currently? Any old mainstays still good?

I just saw DaShizWhiz.
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>>383933583
Shiz with the God tier movement tech
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>>383933645
Basically the same as years ago. It's a pretty stagnant game at the top.
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why did they place one of the master minds of melee and the coach of one of the gods next to this angry normie
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>>383933645
Chudat got good again very recently and is now a top 10 player.
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>>383932168
Does it really matter? You chucklefucks will bitch incessantly about any commentator regardless
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>>383933616
>who has so much skill he could be on that spot with mew2
Nope. I agree with your point, though. Using power rankings to measure how good individual characters are doesn't make much sense.
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>>383933645
Chillindude829
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>>383933645
armada is the best
hbox second

m2k/mango third
leffen inconsistent 5th
Plup
Chudat made a comeback to the top 10
Axe still top 10
Wizzrobe best falcon
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>>383933634
Hax is melee cancer
He's everything bad
Talking up techskill, jumping the boat for fox.

Pal seems so much better, the fact fox is toned down and sheik can't chain grab makes events way more interesting to watch.

And fox mains who shit on puff should just quit melee
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Lovage in losers already.
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>>383933645
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/ssbm-rank-10-1
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>when there's a Sheik on screen
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>>383933946
>mango over m2k

top jej
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>>383933842
What about a samus main who shits on puff?
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>>383933634
Funny thing is, he didn't even coin that term. I mean, he made it up, but it was other people that made it as popular as it is. Seeing as to how he did actually drop Falcon, that's not really a meme.

I kind of like the guy, but he is a douche bag. Gets into unnecessary shit with people. On a positive note, this does provide some entertainment. Kind of like when Leffen used to be a complete douche.
>>383933645
It's been about the same for years now. Well, the top 6, anyway. The top 15 or 20 has shifted a bit.
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>>383934045
has m2k had a bigger win than mango at royal flush
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>>383933645
The top 8 is slowly changing, but it takes a long time.
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>>383933793
not /ourguy/ blur
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>>383934116
That's fine.
Fox mains have so many advantages against puff and they still bitch.

Also falcon mains that talk shit / people who cheer for falcon against samus and peach can burn in hell
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>>383934134
Do you value a single peak performance over 6 months of consistent top 8 placements and way less sets dropped to lower ranked players?
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Post your top 8

1. Armada
2. Hbox
3. Plup
4. Mango
5. M2K
6. Axe
7. Shroomed
8. The Shizzard Wizzard
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>>383933793
No, these three are the only ones I actually ever hated
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any link to other streams of melee? just got off of evo1
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>>383934416
How is Chu not in this list
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>>383934597
Chu is a meme who will get taken out by Hax.

Memes can only be killed by memes.
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>>383934416
>3. Plup
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>>383934656
Hax looked like shit in his first match
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HGOD GOT THIS

WHO /hungry//box/ HERE??
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>>383934416
1. Isai
2. Armada
3. Hbox
4. M2K
5. GOAT
6. LiquidChu
7. Leffen
8. Plup
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1. Hbox
2. Leffen
3. Armada
4. M2K
5. Plup
5. Chu
7. Mango
7. Zhu

Didn't check the bracket so some of these might be impossible
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Think dfox wins here
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>>383934656
LOL
Don't watch the stream, man, I don't want you to hurt yourself.
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>>383934723
I want am hbox repeat just from pure mang0 hate
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>>383934656
hax will lose to psychomidget and finish 65th
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>>383934767
I'm rooting for dfox, but damn that's a close call
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>>383934416
>>383934750
>no Ken
GTFO
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>>383934571
This.
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>>383934723
Hungrybox fans are never actually melee players. It's always fucking tr4sh players.
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>>383934760
Leffen in current form is not even top 5.
Sure peak Leffen is far and away the best person to ever play the game but that doesn't matter right now.

I hope he wins evo
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tfw no PPMD
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>>383934917
pretty much this
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>>383934954
It was a result prediction not a ranking
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>>383934917
I've literally never played smash 4.

The melee community is just the worst shit ever and them being mad over an hbox win makes me happy
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>>383934684
He got 3rd last year, retard.
Reddit would say plup would get 5th because of the memes.
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>>383934849
Do you want the tears, the popoffs, and the speech about muh community that comes with it though
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1. Armada
2. Hbox
3. Jew2king
4. Memego
5. Los Leffos
6. Plup
7. Shroomed
8. Chu
9. Sfat
10. Axe

I love wizzy to death, but wizzy chokes too hard and doesnt belong on any top 10.

I unironically rate n0ne above him at this point

sad to see westballz is gone
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>>383934416
1. Armafraud
2. Hungryforcocks
3. m2k
4. mangay
5. swedish/korean ladyboy
6. Plup
7/8. Shroomed/Axe
9/10. Chu/Wizzy
Anything after 5 is really pretty open ended though.

>>383934767
>>383934858
not a chance wizzy is up 4-0 this year

>>383934954
Yeah but who would you put for 5th otherwise?
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>>383934750
>no GOAT
hello, dockiddy
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>>383934416
Armada
Hbox
M2K
Leffen
Plup
Mango
Westballz
Shroomed
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>>383935141
>5. GOAT
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>>383934917
>>383935006
you dropped this

mangoW GOAAAT 3VO????? mangoPog mangoW
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>>383934954
I want to see him lose before top 8 because I'm an asshole who enjoys schadenfreude
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>>383935127
n0ne chokes just as hard at least
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DONKEYBALLZ
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Wstballz on evo1.
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>>383935118
Yes.

I hope hbox kills the community so everyone leaves and I can go back to playing melee with the small group of cool people left.
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>mango places 17th
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>>383934416
1. Mango
2. Armada
3. Leffen
4. West

the rest are just shit
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Somebody shrunk westballz!
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>>383934416
Armada
m2k
Hbox
Mang0
Leffen
Chudat
Pluppers
Shroomed
Wizzy
Duck
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>>383935127
lmaoing and shroomed 7th
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>>383935241
hcuck won't win another major for a whole year, screencap this.
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post guaranteed crackers
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>>383935081
That speaks volumes for his play. Get ready for disappointment
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Based DK beating fucking Fast Fallers.
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>>383935373
>he posts that stale underage meme
you have to go back and never return
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/r/smashbros/
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>>383935259
Then you should want Leffen to win.
The lead up to EVO 2015 with Leffen stomping on everyone with 0 respect is the most fun Melee has ever been.
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>>383935373
Why does mango have this effect on people?
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if dubs mango wins
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>>383935373
But he's gonna win one tomorrow though what gives?
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>>383935630
Leffen fanbase is cancer. Leffen also is kind of a fuckin retard.

It's one thing to piss people off
Its another to act like a moron and stand behind your idiotic positions despite being ignorant
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>>383935330
There's no fucking way westballz will beat hbox
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>>383935451
fire tweet
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>Weston so disillusioned with fucking scrubs with Falco that he can only get any enjoyment out of the game anymore with low tiers
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>>383935625
wew
>>383935672
Jesus of Melee
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>>383935851
I don't know if you've ever tried fucking up fast fallers with DK, but it is EXTREMELY fun.
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>>383935672
>the way he backs off of that gross crying girl then decides he can't be mean and gives her a hug

based
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what is worse

hbox's playstyle or mango's fans?

that's a hard choice
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Who let their kid into the venue?
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>>383936034
I think the chair on the right is actually really far away from the TV because westballz looked tiny too.
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>>383936034
wtf ice is so small
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>>383936028
there's nothing wrong with mango's fans
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>Ajax?
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>>383935901
>>383935672
The mang0 bias is so bad for melee
>>383935938
Really?
>>383936028
Fox players that go
"LOL just play hype hbix"
And then just do laser spam
And people go
Wow why is hbox camping as he tries to avoid lasers and the fox doesn't seem to want to engage him at all
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>>383936198
t. mango fanboi
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>>383936034
Seriously it looks ridiculous

>>383936028
Hbox. Chat can always be hidden. There are charts out there that show the viewership drops when hbox plays
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>>383936028
mang0 fans can be pretty chill at times, of course they'll get mad/sad if their fan favorite loses

hbox playstyle is truly interesting to watch, that is until he panics from losing the neutral too much and goes to camp the ledge under the excuse of 'I'm actually analyzing my oponent while I ledge camp lol'.
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>>383935938
>gross
I'd drink her piss.
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>>383936251
oh yeah remember when Hbox timed out Chu twice this year yeah Chu was totally laser camping you tool.
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>>383936151

Don't talk to me or my son ever again.
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>>383936028
Mango fans are fucking awful
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>>383936251
God damn its so easy to tell when someone doesnt know shit about Melee
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TELL ME ABOUT MANGO

WHY DOES HE WEAR THE BEARD?
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>>383936384
She's a coal burner you cuck
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>>383936380
>hbox playstyle is truly interesting to watch
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>>383936251
cmon man mango hater here and hbox fanboy but this post is awful
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>>383935929

The CG ->Uair -> Charge punch will have them seething.
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>>383936393
There is nothing wrong with abusing a life lead, even chudat admits he played the matchup wrong

Fuck off
>>383936427
Yeah they post like you

I'm not even an hbox fan. Why I always end up on this side of the argument
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>>383936370
>>383936380
outside the chu set i've never really seen him play lame? he is fairly aggressive and lands rests constantly
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>>383936437
The longer his beard got the harder he bustered out. But if he shaves it his power will be uncontrollable like Saiki and he will destroy the venue.
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>>383936501
yeah I mean it. When I gave jigglypuff a try I realized all the shit hbox did just to make the character work, which makes it interesting.

Ledge camping is still shit though
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>>383936543
I agree that there's nothing wrong with playing lame, but you said hbox only plays lame because fox players play lame, which just isn't true. Get Hbox's dick out of your mouth, even hbox'll tell you that he plays like a total queer.
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>>383936746
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>Everyone watching Melee instead of GG
Eh
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>>383936534
>tfw a spacie on bracket leaves FD open for me
I can hardly contain my pulsating erection when I get a grab on them. I have practiced the 0-to-death so many times only players that can do 2 whole SDIs behind on my uairs can escape it.
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Post tier lists.
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>>383936746
You're wrong.
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>>383936574
he played 'lame' in different instances years before the chu set. evo 2015 comes to mind.
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>this is who /v/ says is /ourguy/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH0O1vEG4nU
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>>383936850
swap falcon and puff
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>>383936850
Tired of seeing shit like jigglypuff in A tier. Jiggs is at best D tier. Hbox being a fucking legend doesn't make the character itself better.
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>>383936850
Pikachu down two places.
Samus in that old pika spot.
Luigi in the old Samus spot.
Hands down
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>>383936929
>Literally ONE player who does well with Puff
In all honesty, Puff barely belongs in A tier.
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>>383936746
Honestly you are right, King was agro as fuck and he had a lot of success, Hbox has been a fag from day 1.
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>>383936850
wow you're actually stupid
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>>383936437
he's too fat to shave it now
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>>383936995
You can't play like that in 2017 meta
People always say "muh aggro puff" and then list the same people from like 2005,lmao
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>>383936984
Do you understand what a tier list is?
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>>383936850
Ganon and DK are better than Mario, YL, and Link.
Yoshi is better than Luigi and Dr.Mario.
Dr. Mario should be on D tier alongside Ganon and DK. Move everybody else one tier down.
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>>383936836
I fuck around with DK but sometimes I mess it up. Can you cargo upthrow into upair then regrab at 0 or does it start another way?
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>>383937017
For a short time when he started to let his beard grow, he was one suave motherfucker. Then he got fat and gross. It's a shame.
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>>383937124
I can accept that Ganondorf is better than DK, Mario and Link, but YLink is a bit of a grey area.
Yoshi is NOT better than Luigi.
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>>383937124
>yoshi better than luigi and dr Mario

What the fuck
You're a moron.
My post is objective truth
>>383936973
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>>383937091
I think you didn't read right, Agro Puff may not be viable today (although honestly we don't know) but what I'm trying to say it's that the lame style Hbox plays today has been in development for years, when he started he was lame and that's why Mang0 (best puff at the time and aggro as fuck) hated his ass.
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>1 player each literally carrying their respective pokemon up the tier lists single handedly

where would pikachu and puff be on the tier list without hbox and axe
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>>383937276
I too watched the documentary
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>>383936574
No offense but have you seen many sets besides the chu one? Hbox said recently in an interview that he's "going back to the ledge" vs. m2k. Unless you've been watching hbox vs. not top players, because then he is fun because he's willing to be more risky. Watch Prince Abu if you want to see some innovative cool rest setups.
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>>383936850
Patrician Tier List coming through.
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HBox is the only melee god which I dislike on a personal level. So egotistical, I bet he brags about how humble he is. I remember how he tried to hijack manchild mango's documentary episode.
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>>383937350
Am I wrong, faggot?
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>>383937141
Vs spacies you can regrab at 0% if they DI away. If they do no DI or DI behind they can shine out, but gets beat by uair into regrab.
At 0% you need to win the mixup, but after 0% you can just cargo uthrow uair regrab.
After 30% you can just start chaining uairs. Do them LATE so you have way more frame advatange in case they can actually SDI.
After 3 uairs, you full hop into Giant punch to end it.
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>>383937141
No. Regrab first then start uairs. I think there's another thing you can do like non cargo usmash regrab or something retarded but you can't get uairs into regrab until like 15%
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>>383937296
jigglypuff has been ranked 2nd and 3rd before hungrybox had won anything
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>>383937418
>hijack
Not hboxs fault mang0 barely interviewed
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>>383937390
>three characters in s tier
>falcon above ICs
>ganon above YL
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>>383937390
switch ice climbers and falcon
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Where's our poverty chat at?
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>>383937275
doc has terrible neutral game
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>>383937443
>>383937467

k cool, the 0-20% was the only part I ever fucked up. I usually play him vs noobs because it's the only way to stay interested
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>>383937467
You can get uair into regrab at 0% since the throw puts them at 7%, but only works if they don't DI (which lets them shine out). At 0% it's a mixup.
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Puff is definitely in a spot barely above the mid tier twins S&P and people who argue otherwise can suck my dick.
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>>383937418
He has also begged other jigglypuff players not to train with top players during tournaments.
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>>383937545
>he fell for le fox is op maymay
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>>383937597
Doc would be okay if his grab range wasn't absolute dogshit. He has to get hard as fuck reads to get a grab vs a spacey and he gets absolutely molested by Falcon.
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>>383937649
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>>383937643
A mid tier would be fucking Pikachu, Jiggs is not on the same level. Kill yourself.
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>wearing those retarded sunglasses casting

why
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>>383937738
>the eternal puff player
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>>383937673
If you believe that Fox, Marth and Falco have the same potential you're shit

Maybe, just maybe Marth but Falco isn't even third imo
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>>383937613
What I usually do is fish for a single backair to put them out of the mixup %. After a single backair they're ready to die if they get grabbed.
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Why do people hate scar and toph?

I like them
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>>383937916
Scar's fine, Toph is a fag.
>>
Fox
-
Marth
Falco
Sheik
-
Falcon
Peach
Ics
-
Puff
-
Samus
Luigi
-
Pikachu
Yoshi
Doc

And then everyone else I'm fine with official
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>>383936393
>its hbox fault chu plays a lower tier character
literally ever character stays of the ground against icies, jiggs just has more options.

why you cant you faggots enjoy the game? why the fuck do you have to put all these stipulations(yes i understand its comp melee, but still.) Just let a player win feel happy for, its a fucking video game, if he wants to play it this why, it's perfectly valid. Get over yourselves, get over the sport, and enjoy the game
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>>383937916
i like scar when he doesnt go on a retarded tangent, which he does often unfortunately

i just fucking hate toph, do you know some people in your life you dont really have a reason to hate but you just do? he seems like a nice guy, i just hate his fucking face with a passion
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>>383936198
>>>/reddit/
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>>383937793
I've literally never seen him without them I think he must have an eye condition
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>>383938025
Honestly Ganon is more relevant to the meta nowadays than Doc. I'd either replace Doc with Ganon or put Ganon right besides Doc.
Also putting Pikachu under Samus and Luigi, and putting Puff under ICs and Peach, and putting Falcon that high indicates that you have a mental illness.
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>>383938039
I have this feeling with Toph,SleepyK, and kira

Something about them man
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>>383926957
>Who are you looking forward to seeing?
The end of Melee's slot.
>Who do you think will win?
The same people who always win in this dead game.
>Why has the eternal Jew Smash 4 stolen the Sunday spot?
Because it's the better game.
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>>383928370
Sauce? nothing on the reverse image searches
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i would have consensual anal intercourse with hugo and cuddle afterwards til we fall asleep

no homo ofcourse
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>>383938034
>its fox player's faults that hbox plays a lower tier character and he's too much of a baby to handle being called a fag
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>>383938270
You could at least try a little harder
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>>383938243
Is it that they're Asian?
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>>383938270
Damn, son. You got 'em good.
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>>383938183
Pikachu is trash and carried by Axe.
Pika is 100% doc tier.
Puff sucks dick dude
Though I think puff and ics should switch now that I think about it.

And luigis neutral is too strong
If you can be cg by sheik you should not be partying with samus. That's too high
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i need hugos routine and diet hot damn
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@383938270
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>>383938270
wow sick post you should go talk to all the friends you totally have about it

>>383938243
so...asians?
>>
since when is vro sponsored by tempo? that's fucking awesome to see for the local scene
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>>383938498
Being a manlet and bench pressing three times a week.
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>>383938430
>saying kusoge
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Everytime I see smug's fucking potato face I fuckin have to laugh.
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>>383938491
The Pika Cg doesn't work til death.
Doc is the most overrated piece of shit in the current meta.
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>dead anime kusoge players showing their jealousy towards games with more than 10 players worldwide
LMAO
>>383938591
Sorry, forgot my picture. Fuck anime.
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lol m2k
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>>383938412
>>383938467
>>383938507
>literally can't refute a single point

Ah, Meleefags. Even their banter is a dead meta.
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>>383938412
>>383938467
>>383938505
Like clockwork.
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>>383938692
>600 viewers
HOLY SHIT! THAT'S LIKE THEIR ENTIRE COMMUNITY! HOT DAMN
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>>383938412
>>383938467
>>383938505
BTFO!
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>>383938737
But you didn't even make a point, you just said you wanted Melee to finish soon cause you don't like it

You gotta be a little more subtle if you actually wanna troll
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>>383938737
>>383938834
>>383938950

all me
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>>383938243
>something about them
its not them thats the problem
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>>383938692
was someone starting shit in chat or is this actually what anime chats are like? No way GG streams are like this
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>>383938737
>>383938834
>>383938950

all me xD
>>
S- Fox, Falco, Marth
A- Sheik, Peach, Jigglypuff
B- IC's, Falcon, Samus, Pikachu
---------------The rest
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>>383939142
First actual decent tier list on the thread.
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>>383938327
a didnt say. in fact im saying right now. hbox is a needy fuckboy, no body likes him and he needs to get over this.

on another note. everyone needs to stop bitching that a lower tier character is trying to win, again, theyre to self-centered and arent think about top level play
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>>383938723
Collect'em all!

I'll trade someone a Mango for a leffen card here (do not save unless you gib leffen)
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>>383939142
>Luigi not in the same tier as Samus and Pika
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>>383939072
Anime chats are all like this, yes that includes GG. Pure cancer 90% of the time. Anime players all hate each other and BlazBlue is the main boogeyman for GG chats.
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>>383939337
mango isn't that good at Mario Kart, should be 3 bars
>>
Post your top 5 stage music here, casual stages allowed:

1. Pokemon stadium
2. Corneria
3. Mute city
4. Poke floats
5. Fountain of dreams
>>
>Live in RI area
>Been playing by myself and with only one friend for the past year on occasions
Any locals around? Or at least in Mass or Conn?
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>>383939518
Well that's good to hear at least, I can't fucking stand a single GG player I've met. Every single one of them can't fathom someone not being interested in their game and are just huge cunts about it.
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>>383935127
Your list is ridiculous
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>>383939689
facebook groups and whatever that may happen to get posted on smashboards.

is this your first day on the internet?
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>>383939675
1. Rainbow Ride
2. Kongo Jungle 64
3. Pokemon Stadium
4. Onett
5. Green Greens
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>>383939675
1. Fourside
2. Fountain of Dreams
3. Multiman Melee 2
4. Pokemon Stadium
5. BREAK THE TARGETS
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>>383937916
Their comment is boring.
Scar used to be fun when he was just trash talking during comment like m2k vs mango at ROM I believe, but has become a boring fag, I'm confiddnt his sjw wife only worsened his condition. His only good comment I remember in recent days is net1234 vs chris best.
>>
>>383939675
1. Battlefield (Multi-man Melee 1)
2. Fountain of Dreams
3. Brinstar
4. Onett / Mother
5. BREAK THE TARGETS
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>>383939675
poke floats

that's it. think of poke floats plating in any video game you've ever played, then get back to me.
>>
1. Armada
2. HBox
3. Mango
4. M2K
5. Leffen
6. Plup
7. SFat
8. S2J
9. Westballz
10. Axe
>>
>play Ganon
>always struggle to keep up with my friends
>pick up Sheik
>second best in our group now
Tier list privilege is so real.
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>>383939919
>>383939954
>>
>>383940038
>Es Too Jay
>Weston

jej
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>>383939834
When it comes to anything that concerns my personal surrounding then yes.
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>>383939725
>implying Melee players don't do the same thing
You should see the shitstorm that occurs when I tell people that Smash 4 is my main game.
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>>383939919
>Break the targets
My nigga!
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>>383939938
>I'm confident his sjw wife only worsened his condition
This. East coast Scar was way better than west coast Scar
>>
>>383940179
They switch for me. I had a feeling someone would comment on that.
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>>383940191
fag
>>
>>383940282
neither of them are top 15 friend
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>>383940191
yeah for sure but at least they're in the same series lol. Crazy to see smash actually drives that many people up a wall. I play Melee/SF/Tekken and less so KI and MVC. Game vs game shit can fuck off for all I care but there is some warrant to melee v smash 4 since they're the same series
>>
>>383939976
1. Fire Emblem (alternate Temple music)
2. Multi Man Melee 2 (alternate FD music)
3. Poke Floats
4. Fourside
5. Brinstar
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>>383940191
No one cares about you though
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>>383940181
>an entire state
>his personal surroundings
what did he mean by this?
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>>383939675
Now that you bring it up, can we all just take a minute to appreciate just how amazing the Melee soundtrack was?
>Orchestrated arrangements
>Really solid remixes
>Amazing original songs
There's something for everyone in there. One thing I felt sort of lacking in Brawl were the original songs. They all sounded pretty samey. Though, the Taboo fight theme was one of the highlights in the series for me.
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>>383940412
Meant to reply to >>383939675
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What are ((they)) plotting?
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>>383940528
>>Really solid remixes
>DK Rap
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>>383939938
>>383940235
This is what marrying a Cali girl does to you. Reminder that Scar has yelled at Johnny for calling people fags.
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>Taking screencaps of Twitch chat
>Look how awful this community is!
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>>383939675
1. Trophy stage
2. Break the targets
3. Mute City
4. Battlefield
5. Fountain of Dreams
>>
>sponsored in part by nu-nintendo
I thought melee wasn't sponsored by nintendo
>>
Fuck me Venom is a kino tune too, im a sucker for Starfox music
>>
>>383940578
DK, DONKEY KONG, HE'S THE LEADA OF DA PACK

(forgot the rest)
>>
which is /ourstream/?
>>
>>383940607
is that real? fucking disgusting
>>
>>383940621
Literally no one ever.
In b4 nobodies from twitter.
>>
>>383940607
Scarduzio is Scar's original last name btw. He's so cucked that he got a "combined" last name.
https://medium.com/@sophinewman/a-wedding-ceremony-for-the-21st-century-f86492750f6d
>>
>>383940569
I hope they came up with a LGL and that wobbling is not banned. Also please 7 minutes. Pretty nice that ((they)) came together, we've needed a new ruleset for years.
>>
>>383940569
le 6 minute timer maymay
>>
>>383940607
I know, he's pathetic
>>
>>383940716
EVO is sponsored by Nintendo now that Sm4sh is around.
>>
>>383939938
he works at twitch and rom was before evo. everyone went pc during 2014, stop blaming some woman you dont even know. fucking christ your pathetic
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COMMENTATOR BATTLE
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>>383940759
it's also written by scars wife
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>>383940907
Should'nt you be preparing the bull for your wife right now?
>>
1. Armada
2. Hbux
3. Mango
4. Leffen
5. M2K
6. Plup
7. SFat
8. Chu
9. Wizzy
10. Axe

I want PPU to be good
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>>383941045
does fendy still have this?
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https://youtu.be/NgAdgZguFSw

>0:48
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>>383941045
Fendy is the worst person to be put on the mic ever.
>>
>>383940907
The difference between Scar and other smashers is that he's even an insufferable pc fag off camera
>>
>>383941106
ohh you sure did get kissless virgin me with your tired reddit memes. man im gonna clos this thread once i post this
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>>383940828
>Before we begin I’d like to ask you all to make sure your cell phones, iPads, and any handheld gaming devices are on silent.

*BING BING WAAAA-HOOO 1-UP SO LONG GAY BOWSER*
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>>383940607
I though it was Lucky who said faggot? Scar talks about it on an episode of Scar and Toph show I think. Or did Johnny say it too? kek
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>>383941049
what did she mean by this?
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>>383940853
>LGL
Stupid and impossible to enforce
>that game you just won? You were on ledge one too many times so get fucked kiddo
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>>383941045
Fendy sucks so fucking bad
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>>383937429
You are wrong on the basis that all of those aggro puff players are fucking nobodies now that never top and Hbox still consistently puts up results.

Aggro puff was a shitty meme to begin with.
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>>383941424
LGLs are only for timeouts

you can check ledge grabs on the win screen
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*shakes head violently*
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>>383941490
Pretty sure King quit because he got bored of winning, anon.
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this fucking spaghetti
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If you haven't already seen this, this is a great documentary that covers the rise of competitive Smash, and some of the key players involved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4
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>>383941549
Yeah I'm sure that's what washed up as fuck players like Ken also tell themselves.
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I wish we could just go back to the time when Smash and other fightan people were allowed to be raunchy.
The whole ''You can't swear because it will scare away new players'' attitude is such shit. For fuck's sake, you're not even allowed to say rape as a joke because it, apparently, offends women who aren't interested in the games. Even after everyone cracked down on the language, women still don't give a shit about competitive fighting games. Besides, if saying rape is a gendered issue, why isn't killed or robbed?
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>>383941585
nigga please
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>>383941602
Stay deluded, Hbox was playing like a fag since day 1.
>>
Toph is fucking garbage now. Get that ass off The Reads, no wonder he gets beat by literal whos.
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>>383941585
>Up to 2 million viewers
Anyone who gives a shit has seen this already.
I've rewatched it at least once every 5 or 6 months since it came out.
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>>383941605
Everything is watered down and sanitized because they need sponsorships and to be on Twitch otherwise they can't get money. Yeah it's shitty but that's what happens when you go mainstream.

I think there was a point where someone seriously put forth the idea to change "ledge trump" in Sm4sh to "ledge steal" because people were mad about the election results and it almost got momentum if not for the fact that asking everyone to change game vocabulary they've used since day 1 is fucking impossible.
>>
link to the stream?
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>>383941726
Where have you been? Toph has never been relevant as a player
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>>383941884
evo1
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>>383941821
>tfw it's actually wayyy more entertaining than you thought
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>>383941715
He has, I would never argue otherwise, but he's the only relevant Puff left standing so clearly he's doing something right that other "aggro Puffs" weren't.
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>>383941882
>if not for the fact that asking everyone to change game vocabulary they've used since day 1 is fucking impossible.
Not true. I'm pretty sure spot dodge is a fairly recent terminology. This may be the Mandela Effect in action, but I remember commentators calling it side step for the longest time.
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>>383941924
he was at least miom top 100 2 years ago, fendy is nowhere near that and he just got whooped

on a side note for as much as I hate him on commentary, fendy's combo game with Marth is clean
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>>383941821
I hope you also watched the ones where players watch/commentate it
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>>383942129
So far, I've only watched Chillin's and Hugs's.
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>>383942073
Not at the time, there's no aggro Puff's today (Abu plays somewhere in the middle). I'm not saying that just because King was good that Aggro Puff could be viable, I'm saying that the character is untested on today's meta and just because Hbox is the best by a wide margin it doesn't mean that's the only viable way to play Jiggs.
>>
>styrox
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>>383941882
>>383941882
I remember TKBreezy mentioning wanting to change gimp lol, but it was just a small thing I never heard about again
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>>383942115
Fendy has better pivots than m2k
LUL
>>
>commentary shitting on hax

based
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>>383933327

jail =/= conviction
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>>383942108
spot-dodge side-step. both came from kof, both are are also in kof vocabulary rotation.

never read about that ledge trump shit. sounds like the dude was browsing reddit
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>Watching a tournament for a video game with a community that fully embraces cheating
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>>383933467

prog is the worst commentator ever though, cringe to the max

d1 + random pros rotating in and out would be best
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>>383942520
>Embracing cheating
>On the fighting community
???
>>
>>383942562
wobbles was suprisingly good at smash 'n splash
>>
>>383942483
He was convicted for the assault though cunt. The main crime on his record that he wasn't convicted for was possession of drugs, which turned out to be his mom's prescription that she left in his car.
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>>383942520
How do people cheat on SFV? Tell me
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>>383942585
>Top Melee players cheat with malfunctioning controllers because it gives them an advantage over everyone else
>The Melee community is 100% fine with this

>>383942685
The SFV community doesn't endorse or tolerate cheating.
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>>383942562
Prog wasn't cringey, in my opinion. But, he wasn't a very good commentary. He just copied stuff from basketball and shit and applied it to Smash, even if majority of the words that came out of his mouth didn't really have anything to do with the game and could be applied to any sport ever.
I liked his voice and attitude though and when he and D1 got hyped together it was beautiful. I miss 2011-2014 man.
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>>383942758
no matter what they do they will always lose to top players
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>>383942758
>Come into a thread for a game you don't play
>Complain about shit
Also smash is a fighting game :^)
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>>383942758

Do you even know anything about Melee or are you just shitposting out of your ass?
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>>383938692
I actually think animu fighting games are really fun to watch. Why do they have to be so bitter?
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Oh shit, Bizz is back?
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>>383942758
How does a malfunctioning controller give an advantage to some players?
>>
Bizz is fucking back baby,. 3 stocking shitty foxes and pissing on their graves.

As a ganon main, nothing feels better.
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>>383942953
what does this even mean?
>>
why do american insist on using the shit menu theme
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>>383942847
Then the top players should play with normal controllers like everyone else if they're so good. But they don't.

>>383942937
Armada refused to participate in a tournament because he couldn't cheat with his malfunctioning controller.

>>383942990
Some controllers have a factory defect that allow frame-perfect inputs to be more consistently performed.
>>
BIZARRO ON EVO1

HE LOSING
>>
>>383942990
hold on, let me get my handbook from our newly formed smashers union so i can check
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>>383942982
He leaves every 4 months to be a lawyer and then comes back. He can't make up his mind.
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>>383943117
It's so minute it doesn't matter
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>>383943117
>Some controllers have a factory defect that allow frame-perfect inputs to be more consistently performed.
So, its not a controller defect, but a controller good binning, if you know what binning is.
Do you have some proof of said controllers existing?
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>>383943093
What does what even mean?
>>
>>383940503
Nothing around here I consider actively looking up on the internet other than job applications. I separate my internet and my real life.
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>>383942990
Dashing backwards has a weird frame window, if you do it right you get an instant dash, if not, you get an extra ~5 frames of turnaround animation.

A small number of controllers are able to easily do backdash, I don't know the exact reason, but Armada recently dropped out of a tournament because he couldn't find one of said controllers
>>
man, fuck this matchup
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>>383942990
>>383942758
kadano makes the best controller mods, it's so cool to have him in my local community
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>>383943279
are you retarded kid? what the fuck does "cakes in hboxs girl" mean?
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RISKY BIZZNUTS
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>>383943194
It does matter. Cheating is cheating. A controller that inherently gives one player an advantage over another is cheating.

>>383943267
>Do you have some proof of said controllers existing?
https://pvplive.net/c/armada-drops-out-of-dreamhack-austin-due-to-contro
>Adam 'Armada' Lindgren, one of Super Smash Bros Melee's Five Gods, has dropped out of the Dreamhack Smash Championship singles event due to a malfunctioning controller. Or rather, a controller that wasn't malfunctioning correctly.
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>>383943380
You're the retarded one if you don't understand what he means by that tweet. Kid.
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>>383943380

Are you 12?
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BIZZARO "BIG 'EASY MONEY' BALLS" FLAME
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>>383943380
He means Hbox's girlfriend has big massive tits, retard.
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>>383943484
>A controller that inherently gives one player an advantage over another is cheating.


Nope, because it's not against the rules. Using sanctioned controllers is perfectly fine. It's the same way that you can use different fightsticks and some fightsticks are objectively better than others. You choosing to use a shitty fightstick doesn't mean the other player cheated by using a good stick.

You don't really play competitive games do you?
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>>383943267
He's talking about dashback but he's too retarded to know what's coming out of his own mouth.
>>
Reminder n0ne is the best ganon without even trying. Fuck jizzaro lame
>>
Bizzaro Flame is a cool guy. A jock, one might say.
>>
imagine if more people played fun shit like ganon and luigi
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>>383943484
>People play CS:GO with 60 hz monitors
>Still shit on people with 144 hz monitors
I know this is all baiting but this is still fun.
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>>383943705
Isn't it still Kage?
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Samus slows down the game so fucking much.
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>>383943593
mango btfo
this is now a mango's psycho gf thread
>>
link to stream, pls
>>
>dat moonwalk down-b

Bizz pls
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>>383943705
and any top 5 players except hungrybox would be better than n0ne after a week of practice
>>
>>383943484
So, why not determine how the controller malfunction and just mod a "good" one like that? I bet is just a little hardware defect on the stick
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>Perfect wavelands on left platform
>Moonwalk past him towards edge
>HITS HIM WITH THE MEGABUS

Biz please.
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>>383943768
Never seen Kage 3-stock a top 20 player like Hugo "Nice Shot" Gonzales, but he plays falcon these days anyway.
>>
https://youtu.be/97fQoffpJiM
Why was Apex 2015 the last great smash tournament?
>>
>>383943856
twitch @ evo1
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>>383942664

oh i mustve misremembered, thought the gas station incident resulted in dropped charges
>>
>>383942953
>she keeps me well fed
Yeah we can see that.
>>
>>383943959
G3 was the last great Smash tournament.
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>>383943802
Yeah, but it's interesting to see how players react to it and work around Samus's high defense. It's still engaging, unlike Puff or Peach.
>>
>>383943959
That was Genesis 1. Apex 2015 is a close 2nd though.
>>
>>383943959
What's funny is that it was absolute trash to play in and there was a risk that everyone would've been killed in a building collapse.

As a spectator it was pure kino
>>
>>383943856
you can always sort twitch by "game". it'll show all the melee streams
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>>383944114
oops, genesis 3*
>>
>White Marth
The one and only.
>>
>>383943660
>Nope, because it's not against the rules.
Which means that the Melee community fully endorses cheating so long as it increases viewership.

>It's the same way that you can use different fightsticks and some fightsticks are objectively better than others. You choosing to use a shitty fightstick doesn't mean the other player cheated by using a good stick.
It's not the same because Gamecube controllers are out of production and have been for about a decade, and only around 2% of Gamecube controllers are viable for this cheating. It's easy to get a different fight stick, it's much harder to get a Gamecube controller that's useful for you to cheat against other players.

Every other community at EVO bans input devices that can do things like block from two directions at once or have auto macros. Melee is the only community that has no such quality control. That's very telling.

>It's totally fine to use steroids because it increases viewership!
>It's totally fine to use broken controllers because it increases viewership!
The Melee community is literally no better than the mid-1990s to early-2000s baseball fanbase.

>>383943764
Monitor refresh rate has nothing to do with the tick rate of the server you're playing on.

>>383943879
>why not determine how the controller malfunction and just mod a "good" one like that?
That would be cheating.
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>We will never see PPMD vs Armada GF again
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>>383944357
>Which means that the Melee community fully endorses cheating so long as it increases viewership.
Nope, because it's not against the rules

>It's not the same because Gamecube controllers are out of production and have been for about a decade
Nope, you can go to GameZilla and get a new one right out of package right now for $20.

You've used up your (You)s from me anon. Stop being a retard.
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>>383944357
>Melee is the only community that has no such quality control
But, you are not allowed to have modded controllers at major tourneys. Macros aren't allowed either. I think you're talking out your ass.
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What went wrong?
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>>383944357
>Monitor refresh rate has nothing to do with the tick rate of the server you're playing on.

having less than 120 fps means you're missing ticks on your screen though.
>>
Even on LAN it wouldn't matter, and I'm pretty sure a good player on 60 hz even with ping would destroy a bad one with 144 hz, but apparently the other way around means the good player on 144 hz would be cheating??
Honestly I can't tell if it's actually bait now or if you just hate anything that gives an advantage within the rules of a game.
Should football players not be allowed to wear gloves cause it makes catching the ball easier? Same with soccer goalies?
>>
Friendly reminder that pools and top 48 are more interesting than watching yet another HBox Armada GF.
>>
>Take latest Melee tier list
>Allow in game handicap for people using low tier characters
>People start using more than 5 different characters
How much better would Melee become?
>>
>>383944487
>>383944545
Why are you guys entertaining this shit?

It doesn't matter anyway TO's are almost certainly going to start implementing v1.03 which will make this shit unnecessary.

Just let him shit post.
>>
>>383944565

Increased ticket prices
>>
>>383944487
>Nope, because it's not against the rules
It's not against the rules because they endorse cheating. For the Melee community, the ends justify the means.

>>383944545
>you are not allowed to have modded controllers at major tourneys.
Yet defective controllers that are effectively factory modded are totally OK. It's like playing baseball with a corked bat.
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>>383944801
You're right, anon. Sorry about that.
>>
>>383944832
>It's like playing baseball with a corked bat.
I honestly didn't realise that bat companies sometimes accidentally corked bats, thanks for opening my eyes.
>endorse cheating
It's not cheating if there's no rule against and honestly I've only ever seen Armada himself say literally anything about specifically going for one of these controllers
>>
>>383944565
>hGOD won the biggest Melee tournament of all time and is killing Melee so that no tournament ever surpasses it
hGOD hater cucks btfo
>>
>>383944795
A handicap wouldn't solve characters with bad mobility, terrible neutral game, or outright broken hitboxes. All this would do is make the game so much more janky while alienating players
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>Gets to top 8 winners side
>Sent to losers by Hbox, 3-2
>''Arrghh.. So close. I can do it, guys!''
>Eliminated by Plup
Calling it now.
>>
>>383945006
>It's not cheating if there's no rule against
Yes, it is. Gaining an unfair advantage is cheating no matter what. It isn't against the rules to play whack-a-mole with both of your hands, but it's still cheating if you aren't using the hammer.
>>
It's cheating to pick Fox because he's better than the other characters.
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>>383945216
Fox has an unfair advantage over most characters, I don't think that makes fox mains cheaters
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>people paid $12 to talk in twitch chat
>>
>underdog tier
Axe
Amsa
PPMD

>I wish they were here tier
Wobbles

>reclaiming the throne tier
Armada

>Drunken master who will never claim the throne tier
Mango

>Literal faggot tier
HBox
Leffen
>>
>>383945134
But it would make more mid tier characters viable. The handful that are fucked can stay fucked, but anything to save us from another Fox/Marth match.
>>
>>383945359
No, Fox is part of the game and it's not broken enough to ban it. Also, everyone can play it, the game gives you acces to it. A modified controller that gives you advantage is not.
>>
>>383945508
ppmd is undead tier
>>
>>383945508
Is PPMD an underdog though?
>>
>>383945508
hi redit
>>
anyone else have it say offline?
>>
wtf happened to the stream?
>>
>>383945514
No it wouldn't, It would fuck up the way combos work and you would have to play the character differently, and any disadvantages they have in neutral will still be there because they'll still have the same shit frame data that makes them mid-tier

You're trying to put a band-aid over a fundamental problem
>>
>>383945153
Whenever I found the black choker item in FFXV, I thought of him.
>>
>>383945723
>>383945758
smash 4 needed more viewers so they closed melee
>>
>>383945826
Still better than the current meta.
>>
>>383945585
Bad backdash windows are part of the game, and it's not broken enough to ban certain controllers (which are not modified, some just end up with easier backdashes)

Even if they did go full retard and ban the backdash controllers, that would be nearly impossible to screen, as they are exactly the same as every other GC controller
>>
>>383944565
>more recent events have higher entrants numbers
Looks like things went right to me
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>leffen fags BTFO
>>
Wait I just came home, where's the melee stream?
>>
>>383946005
if you want pm go play pm
>>
>>383946492
it got shut down. i don't know why.
>>
>>383945508
>underdog
>PPMD
>one of the best players to ever touch the game
>>
>>383946819
did you just wake up from a coma?
>>
PLUP ON STREAM RIGHT NOW
>>
Who's this girl and how do I fuck her?
>>
>>383946819
He hasn't been a major tourney presence for years.
>>
>>383946934
cuck ppu
>>
>>383946946
It's only been a little over 2 years anon and he's still kicking.
>>
>>383947090
Yeah, and Ken's still the king of smash
>>
>>383946969
He'd probably wouldn't mind
>>
>>383946492
On the Evo1 stream, it's back on now. Axe is up.
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MY BOY ON EVO1 STREAM
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>>383943803
honestly what happened to the whole abuse situation?
>>
This Ness isn't even good.
>>
>>383947345
no one cares about it because its mango
>>
>>383947345
Wasn't she physically abusive to Mango or something? Kind of wacked.
>>
>>383947345
I think mangos gf was just mad
>>
>>383947345
Everyone in Mango's family called her a liar so she shut up about it.
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>>383945153

>mfw he's been 7th-10th for 5 years now
>>
>>383946456
What happened?
>>
>>383947685
It's not fair. He's more or less hit a plateau where his character can't get past the gods. He has improved a little these past two years, but it's not enough.
Still my favourite smasher.
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>>383947345
who to believe some fat whore riding off mango's success that got jailed for pulling a knife on a stripper or some guy who just wants to play vidya

hard choice
>>
>>383947345
she realized they weren't married so she can't divorce rape him since all his assets would go to his mom
>>
>>383945508

you know wobbles is at the tournament right
>>
>Puff vs Samus
>>
>>383947947
>trash4 on both streams
>>
>>383947685
>controllah....controllah
>>
>>383948049
Not on evo1.
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>beats Mango
>makes it to Top 8 winners side
>"Plup is looking like a god-level player right now"
>gets raped by armada

So what secondary will he try out this year?
>>
hope this new ruleset coming in a few weeks has at least some sort of floaty character ban
>>
>>383948331
Mr. Game and Watch
>>
>>383948364
Yeah, gotta make make fox more dominant in tournaments, that'll surely make things more interesting.
>>
>>383945153
hopefully midset coaching gets fucking banned in the new MIOM ruleset
>>
>>383948364
Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>
>>383938834
>>383938950
>>383938737
Haha nice one ! Dude !
>>
>>383947947

Duck's Samus is sick though
>>
>>383948602
>>383948534
t. hungryfattie
>>
KALINDI JABARI HENDERSON
vs.
a skilled roy
>>
>>383948781
A 'Yes' would have sufficed
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>>383948321
>floaties galore
>5 minute matches
think again
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>>383947824
No, he improved steadily. But so did all the top 10 people especially the top 6.
It's his character.
>>
NO 4 STOCK

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