Was it a good way to end your mmo?

>>383924768
Yeah totally
That stuff was rad

After seeing this ending it made me wish I had stuck with the game.

Answers is by the far the best piece of music in the entire series. If not one of the best pieces of video game music period.

>>383925408
I loved dragonsong more

>>383924768
game?

>>383924768
I didn't play it. Did the red sun consume the world?

>>383924768
BLACK HOLE SUN

>>383926339
>>383926410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39j5v8jlndM

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>>383926418
Won't you come.

>>383926418
WONT YOU CUM

>>383926493
neat.

>>383926410
Over the course of a few patches the red moon kept getting closer and closer, until the final day the servers were online.

When players inevitably got kicked off the server, >>383926493 played for everyone currently online.

From an outsider's POV, it was the coolest shit.

Ending your first, failure of a game, and using in-game lore to justify the world's destruction and revamp? That's fucking nuts. Not to mention the stories I hear of admins popping high lvl monsters everywhere.

>>383926873
GMs also used to randomly pop up as the main antagonist, some story NPCs, and reporters, and roleplay them with the players. They also did shit like make it rain for an entire real life week in the desert zones and change water placement because of it.

>>383926873
>Not to mention the stories I hear of admins popping high lvl monsters everywhere.
They also buffed players who used /pray
On the other hand it just shows how dead game was

>>383926873
1.0 was total dogshit but the end of its days were some of the most best shit ever. there was a real sense of panic when the mobs were overrunning areas and the peoples computers were shitting themselves trying to render the stuff

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>We'll never get cutscenes like this again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h8TKeXk5eA

I mean I don't wanna go back to the 1.x days, but I miss when cutscenes weren't just head nodding and palm punching sequences.

>>383924768
I never played 1.0, but the trailer was hype as fuck, especially the music. I ended up playing ARR because of it (around Dreams of Ice patch).

>>383926493
>>383926721
Well shit, that's one way to end your game.

>>383925408
came here to post this. I don't even play FFXIV.

>>383927407
And people wonder why I skip cutscenes, nothing happens in 98% of them and the dialogue appears 10x slower than otherwise

>>383926410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgEg8kXmifo

Pretty neat.

>>383927532
Apparently when Dalamud, the red moon, was at its closest they replaced the BGM with storm sounds and a very faint and ghostly version of the song Answers from the video. Let me emphasise that the song is, in universe, being sung by Hydaelyn, the goddess of the world, so at the end of the world the games goddess was speaking to the players.

>>383924768
Nah, although that was cash.
The best way would literally be the ending to Dark Souls 3 DLC, where the lore builds up to an ultra-powerful NPC that turns aggro and starts genociding the server, no respawns, until he kills the very last player.

The Matrix Online was pretty sweet.

>>383926493
wow, i got chills.

thats the kind of shit mmos are missing in this f2p mobile garbage shovelware era. truly epic story lines with satisfying conclusions.

Anything before A realm reborn is toxic. Don't even praise it slightly, we don't want to confuse the young ins you didn't experience the travesty...

>>383928137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVQS_yYAlh0

>>383927407
One of the many reasons that 1.0 sucked is that a disproportionate amount of the budget went into these cutscenes. They look good, sure, but they come at an expense to the rest of the game.

Now the real tragedy is the loss of the old lighting engine. 1.0's lighting looks amazing compared to 2.0's that doesn't even work correctly half the time. I don't think anyone would complain if we got the old one back, save for those running the game on a toaster.

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Reminder.

Original Final Fantasy 14 was too good for this world. I won't forgive the lack of a centralized searchable trading house in a game that focused so heavily on crafting, but the rest was great.

>>383929686
And it was a fucking nightmare to navigate

>>383929686
>>383929907
Almost like it was supposed to be a forest that's hostile to outsiders and so spooky and hard to navigate that it's nicknamed the Black Shroud.

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>>383926493
>Game did so bad you had to literally kill it and recreate it.

which one of you fuckers used the black materia?

>>383930158
Almost like it wasn't fun in any way and just a pointless slog

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>>383926493
>Kill your game and the servers by delivering death from above with amazing production value

>>383930475
Not fun for you, maybe

Won't be long now until they'll have to do it again. Final Fantanic. They'll go down just like the Tortanic.

If the world got blown up and obliterated then how is the world suddenly better in the new mmo

>>383930928
You have to do the Bahamut raid to find out.
The old man accidentally absorbs all the magical energy in the air and becomes Phoenix and blows Bahamut up. He then disperses all the energy into the land to heal it, but Bahamut claims his soul with his last breath and uses the old man to start reviving him.

>>383930742
>>383930928
tbqh I'm kinda jealous Squeenix literally killed FF14 1.0. At this point, I wish Blizzard would just erase the last ten years of WoW.

>>383931102
I always forget how retarded ff is until I read shit like this.

>>383930158
the problem is that EVERY outdoor zone shared a similar claustrophobic level design, not just the forest.

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Was there a better way?

>>383930158
Lotro did forest right
In XIV it was fucking corridor
>>383930672
Xiv zones were no fun for every sane person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9nLBfH44c

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>>383931382
Bahamut also rebuilt a ghost in the image of the person who summoned the moon down in the first place to use as a guard. You find out that it's actually a woman who has been pretending to be her brother for over a decade, and then she turns into a dragon and you have to fight her.

>>383931481
You're full of shit and anyone can google pictures of any of the other zones to know it.

>>383930928
The world was fucked up though.
The only reason anyone is left alive is Bahamut was only awake for like 2 minutes before getting BTFO

>>383931621
Looks like garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XWjdKre5kg

>>383931621
the zones were still garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9nLBfH44c

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>log into the game
>get this cutscene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHDioipYvQM

>>383926493
>>383926721

I don't get it, I always thought that was the intro movie to FF14. Does that mean the patches in the disastrous initial launch of FF14 lead up to that incredible opening for the fixed relaunch?

Damn, that's pretty incredible.

>>383930672
Not fun for a lot of people, which is why it got shut down

>>383932092
The video played in-game as the original servers went down.

>>383926493
Legitimately an epic scene and method of closing down an MMO, the literal end of the world (sorta).

It always gets me when you see the heroes hopelessly standing on the cliffside watching the landscape get utterly obliterated around them.

>>383924768
Exactly like this, with a GAME OVER and reboot. I've been saying for years that WoW should do the same.

>>383932212
Nael was referred to as a man even on the Japanese website. And you can't use gender neutral pronouns in English without them sounding awkward. The stupid explanation was also just Urianger's guess because he thought that was more plausible than Nael's sister somehow masquerading as a man for over a decade and not being caught.

>>383932342
Shame we kill Sargeras in 7,3 so there no one to end world

>>383932342
but they can't because the player character in WoW is the mostest super special snowflake ever that has the doomhammer AND ashbringer and his dad can totally beat up Sargeras!

>>383924768
Thats how Club Penguin should have ended.

>>383932193
So the second half of the video was included in the FF14 relaunch then? I'm not very familiar with the game, I vaguely remember the launch was a complete disaster and the game was a mess, and after some time they shut it down and re-launched it with massive reworks.

>>383932641
Yeah. The original had a year long questline leading up to the video, with the moon slowly growing closer and one of the best villains in FF fucking everyone up and going batshit crazy worshiping the moon. And even after killing him, when everyone celebrates, the next patch still just brought the moon closer and everyone realized they were fucked.

>>383932641
If by the second half you mean the stuff at the end of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xOOFCltZuc
then no, its a cinematic you get for doing the Bahamut

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>>383931621
Are we going to have to do this EVERY FUCKING TIME?
Stop pretending you where there when its obvious you didnt play 1.0

ALL of it was a fucking hallway with pretty backdrops outside of a very FEW spots per map

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>>383932846
>>383931621

>>383932362
I'd like that idea but, the english lines even go out of their way to have Nael saying the body he's in is not his own.
English also has him say the "weak child I once was" while JP is "the weak girl I once was".

Translating gender neutral pronouns would have been awkward but it would have been infinitely better to just use male and have the reveal as a surprise.

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>>383931621
>>383932846
>>383932903

>>383932824
err doing the bahamut raid I meant to say

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The presentation and story going from 1.0 to 2.0 was top notch, even if coil wasn't the hardest raid, the music, atmosphere, and build up to Bahamut was great. Fuck this happened during my first t12 clear. The game is trash now and since they've shown time and time again they'd rather just recycle everything and keep the same exact content cycles for another 2 years, not interested in playing the exact same shit with a different coat of pain while paying 13 bucks a month

I want regional maps back. I don't like seeing just a zoomed out picture of the maps connected by lines. Shit sucks.

>>383932917
>the english lines even go out of their way to have Nael saying the body he's in is not his own.
That's just because the Nael in Binding Coil was not actually Nael, it was basically a big Egi shaped like her, and she realized it.

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>>383927552
>came here to post this

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>>383932846
You're the dumb faggot who has only ever looked at maps and somehow thinks that because they were blocky, each one of those blocks was closed off. I was there, I played it. I know for a god damn fact that Thanalan, La Noscea, and Coerthas were all huge and open.

>>383932362
If you can't think of a way to describe someone without mentioning their gender, you probably shouldn't be writing stories/lore.

the best was how the matrix mmo ended with every player screeching and getting their player models scrunched up

>>383933075
>Please fuck off back to Plebbit
Came here to post this

>>383933101
Yeah, so let's just have every character awkwardly say 'they' instead of 'him' every time. That won't be weird at all. People naturally just talk like that all the time.

>>383932579
Shame, really. I think there is quite an odd beauty in seeing landscape you know and characters you hold dear just disappear and become legend so that a new story can begin.

Where is WoW gonna go now? The player character already has frostmourne, ashbringer, doomhammer, scythe of elune, etc. What else could they bring? Whatever they do now just won't have the same effect on people.

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Another day, another waiting for Ixion on Cerberus with stupid chat spam.

Also remove Lilim Youkari and Sword Scream from this server already.

>>383932824
I meant this actually:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h542YbZuwkQ

I hadn't seen yours, that's some amazing stuff. Squeenix really knows how to do cinematics.

>>383932793
That's kind of amazing, thank you. It's a real pity the game was such a mess to start off.

>>383933026
Goddamn I know, but that's exclusive to the english script. That isn't in the original dialogue AT ALL, she simply realizes that she had been enthralled by Bahamut the entire time after he withdraws his control.

English version didn't know how to handle the gender reveal of Nael so made up some bullshit on the spot about the enthrallment process turning Nael into a girl for no reason.

>>383933098
it "looks" huge but it wasn't in reality when you run into invisible walls and places you cant jump down

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>>383933182
>Matrix/lotro/wow were developed together
>only wow is still alive

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>>383924768
>best tier
-Lore based endings like in the OP that were worked in well.
>Good tier
-Finishing the story beforehand with little to no unsolved plot threads (e.g. Grand Chase, which only had Uno's line unsolved and otherwise finished).
-Free for all ending parties with infinite amounts of the game's paid currencies
>ok tier
-Ending it with a long amount of notice and allowing for some refunds/exchanges of recent currency purchases/items
>bad tier
-Ending it with short term notice
>shit tier
-Ending it suddenly with no notice
>Aeria games tier
Making a shitload of paid events and cash sales then closing the game.

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>1.0 Apologists

You can fuck right off. Even 1.23 was not a good game, it still suffered from horrible copy paste maps with long ass loading tunnels and only 2 or 3 hotspots where people would spam leves, the rest was dead space.

The Servers were utter garbage right until the end and since the menus were server-side Crafting and Gathering was broken for its entire duration.

There was barely anything to do in endgame and the Devs knew it so they gated Primals and Dungeons behind grinds and desperately reused assets for Hamlet Defense and that NM Boss Rush.

1.X was at no point a good game.
The Combat System (System, not the Combat itself because the game was a laggy mess and fights were incredibly simple) and Cutscenes were nice and it's sad that we don't have that kind of quality in these aspects now a days but the entire rest of the Game was utter shit to the very moment the servers got shut down.

>>383933516
Lotro is still alive, barely
They recently made it to the black gate

>>383933402
>I hadn't seen yours
Then you have been spoiled.

>>383933621
For me it died the moment it went f2p

>>383933540
Had they kept working on it though it could have succeeded XI. It wouldn't have the same financial success today but it would have improved and started profiting again.

>>383933657
That's okay I don't play the game anyway, but the cinematic in >>383926493 is one of my favorite cinematics in videogames.

>>383933428
>English version didn't know how to handle the gender reveal of Nael so made up some bullshit on the spot about the enthrallment process turning Nael into a girl for no reason.
And then the lore book sticks with the original idea of her being a girl the whole time anyway, making it even more of a mess. They should get an intern to redo the Coil script or something just so it's consistent for late-comers.

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tfw you switched to RDM for Omega Savage because of how easy it is because BLM is less rewarding and more punishing

>>383933708
Do you understand how fucking BAD 1.0s engine was? To cut down on programming and time, they scripted everything. And I do mean everything. The menus were scripts, the animations were scripts, pretty much every single thing in that game was running on a server-side macro. There was almost no programming in the game.

>>383933821
The lore book isn't conflicting with anything. The book is the truth, and the explanation you get in-game is just Urianger making a guess. He's even visibly confused because he knows for a fact that Nael was a man (he was), and just quickly thinks up something that sounds plausible to him.

>>383933708
>Had they kept working on it though it

No. The entire point of 2.0 was that 1.0 was unsalvagable with mere patches. The engine was fucked, the server structure was fucked, crafting was fucked, the areas needed to be completely redone because you can't just patch 10 Square Kilometers of copy pasted assets.

>>383933767
Does this mean I am also a degenerate for watching Japanese children's shows? After all of this autism with barneyfag, that's the one thing I never understood, the premise seems flawed to me because I enjoy shows like aikatsu and pripara, which are designed for little girls aged around 5-12 just like MLP and Barney are.

>>383933670
It's not like anything changed if you already had a sub, and the only terrible expansion was Rohan

>>383926493
Such a fucking awesome moment, and really cool of them to realize that XIV initially failed despite the diehard audience being fine with it.

This moment was really emotional for everyone truly invested to pre-ARR. I cried honestly.

I really hope wow eventually does something similar and transitions into wow:2 - where they keep some of the same elements but also reinvent the genre some.

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>>383933953
Good times.

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>>383932362
>>383932917
>>383933026
Basically:

The original Nael Van Darnus was a man. He died, and his sister took his place. This woman is the Nael Van Darnus big bad of 1.0 and the one who becomes obsessed with Meteor and enthralled by Bahamut. You encounter this Nael in the Coil.
Nael Van Darnus is referred to as a man most of the time by some characters because pic related why the fuck would you assume this is a woman. Nael and others mostly stick to these gender neutral authority-figure terms when referring to her.

Localization teams, particularly the english one, were fucking flabbergasted by the female reveal and had no idea how to handle it, so came up with the excuse that Bahamut's tempering of Nael created a female body from "memories". Nael starts going on about how this isn't his body, Alph and Urianger say the same. This will confuse english only lorefags for years to come.

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>>383933708
1.0 was fundamentally flawed. No amount of patches would have fixed that.

So originally they had never planned on having the moon with bahamut crash down on eorzea on top of a battle between the garlean empire and the others?
They only came up with this when thinking of a way to end 1.0 and redo their game?

I was actually around for the end of the wow beta http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/End_of_beta_event

looked a bit similar with fire raining down everywhere and shit
anyone else?

>>383934229
The moon was supposed to be a late game dungeon that the players went to. Instead, Yoshi-P took over and thought it would be cool if he smashed it into the planet.

>>383931621
>it was just naels sister pretending to be him the whole time
I'll never believe this wasn't just a shitty retcon. he even had male elezen emotes in 1.0 for gods sakes

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Wait... so FFXIV is shutting down?

>>383934467
yes, read the latest letter from the producer

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>>383934392
And it was very cool.

>>383934409
Yeah, and the JP website called Nael a man too. But Eula was just dedicated to playing pretend. There's a whole article written where Koji talks about the process of how they finally decided all this. https://gamerescape.com/2017/01/06/the-lore-train-nael-in-the-coffin/

>>383934336
Yeah, it was a ton of fun

>>383926493
So what happens after this? who was this dragon and do we ever get to kill it in game?

As cool as this stuff is and how neat the world is, I then remember the community and the 2.5gcd and linear and boring dungeons

>>383934229
Basically in a nutshell, they released the game early and it was one of the worst program things you had ever experienced. The thing was though, squares higher-ups thoughts that, like all MMOs, it can be fixed with patches, and that maybe it wasn't as bad as everyone's making it out to be.

Upon realizing that it was even worse than their worst imagine scenarios, they looks to anyone who could fix it. They even said that if it was a spinoff they would have just dropped it. But because it was a numbered Final Fantasy they had to try and fix it.

Yoshi-p gave them two options. Try and fix it but know that it'll never be really fixed or, let them rebuild the game from the ground up and Patch what they could leading into the new game.

How long until the live letter?

>>383928169
What? When does that happen?

>>383934467
yes RIP, yoshi saw the amount of netflix healers from DPS logs and went mental

>>383934229
Pretty much. Most of the original higher position staff were canned when 1.0 became a global disaster. The ending you see is what the new producer came up with when he took over the project and had to scrap most of the game.

>>383934534
And I just started the game like a few days ago.

>>383933337
And Ixion spawned with massive lag because everyone and their mom and their chocobos went there.

Fucking bronze. I hope they address this tomorrow and come up with a solution.

>>383934562
All MMO dungeons are linear. Because if they aren't, the community forces them to be.

>get turned into a frog in potd
>cant contribute
>frog is a slur against french

>>383933540
1.2x design was still better than arr. it only did well because it was finally a functional game

>>383934543
It's Bahamut, and yes you get to kill him.

>>383934610
Well you started the game a bit late buddy... should've played it years ago.
Hope you didn't sub for too long now that it's coming to an end.

>>383934392
And we got to fight through a replica Dalamud in Coil so nothing lost.

>>383934467
Yeah. Too many bait-villains have escaped the grasp of the WoL so Hydalen is ending it.

>>383934683
Not subbed yet.

>>383926493
Damn, if you're going out go out with a bang.
That was honestly amazing. Love that, like anons said, playing as the servers went down. Also like the whole "trapping" this thing doesn't even work. Fucker just goes "nah fuck that"

>>383934610
He's trolling you. We're talking about an old event that ended 1.0 and basically changed the entire game.

>>383934726
phew!

>>383934791
>>383934853
Phew!

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>>383926493
I tried to get into 14 and just couldn't enjoy the gameplay for the life of me, but goddamn if this is not arguably the best cinematic I've ever seen for an MMO

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>early morning Live Letter
>Special Guest Art director Hiroshi Minagawa will also make an appearance to answer questions from players.
Oh shit, he got promoted from UI Lead.

>>383934704
Honestly they blew their load with coil way too fast, bahamut should have been one of the final battles in the final xpac, just after killing the last Ascian and just before killing Zodiark.

Can someone nutshell 1.0 plot for me?

Is it even canon in the relaunch timeline? Anything I can watch that sums it up?

>>383934906
that's because 14 is just WoW, which is not fun to play in the slightest

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>>383934906
In WoW's defense, they have some kickass cinematics too. Hell if there is ONE thing Blizzard CAN do, it's cinematics that have nothing to do with the game.

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>>383934641
This is what I've been most disappointed with since I started playing. Whenever I queue into a dungeon for the first time there's always a max level dude who just b-lines it straight to the end. He has no incentive to explore and get chests because the loot is babby shit. The most fun I had in a dungeon was when we were all newbies bumbling through it.

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>>383933953
>The menus were scripts, the animations were scripts, pretty much every single thing in that game was running on a server-side macro. There was almost no programming in the game.
Can anyone explain this to not a programmer?

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>>383934607
>tfw your literally netflix healing while reading this post

i love being scholar and get away with being afk in dungeons

>>383934960
It's still canon, yes, and the game still refers back to it pretty fucking often. For example, the 1.0 Limsa storyline is actually what leads up to Alexander. You should just watch all the cutscenes on Youtube. There are stories for each of the three cities, and the Seventh Umbral Era storyline.

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>>383934673
>1.2x design

What does this even mean? The Map Design? Because that's certainly not true.
The Encounter Design? You mean complex fights like hiding behind a rock once in Garuda?
The Quest Design? Oh wait, you were expected to level entirely through leves.
The Story Design? Getting 1 Story Quest every 5-10 Levels?
The Dungeon Design? Which was 2 Corridors and a Chamber copy pasted 20 times? I agree, that is actually better than the one corridor every dungeon is these days

>>383934641
nah, bad game design forces the community to force them to be linear

>>383934906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4Y7ztznKc

>>383935014
Blizzard hasn't done a good cinematic in over 10 years, I want this meme to die already.

>>383934673
>it only did well because it was finally a functional game
Aside of replaying first guild wars from time to time arr is the only MMO I can actually play and enjoy right now, and it was this way for the few years already
So no, arr is popular because it's actually well made game

>>383933307
'They' isn't the only way to do it, but alright.

>>383935054
obvious troll, as if 4.0 SCH can still actually get away with doing this

>>383935171
Got a channel?

I'm not gonna miss anything with dead quest text and shit I hope.

>>383935038
>slacked off progressing through sb
>now I have to learn shit before running the new content ruining any surprises
I've only got myself to blame but fuck I want to group up with people doing new content for the first time. At least it would be a legitimate reason for us to wipe to stupid shit, I guess.

>>383934960
Garlemald wants to Eorzea to fuck off out of this world because of primals.
Nael Van Darnus wants to use Meteor (Dalamud) to nuke Eorzea.

Nael becomes eerily obsessed with Meteor, treating Dalamud like a god. It isn't until 2.0 that it's revealed this is because Bahamut is inside it and he had mindraped her into a worshipper.

Gaius Van Baelsar strongly disagrees with the genocide of Eorzea's peoples, seeking to conquer it and bring Eorzea into Garlemald instead. Thus Gaius secretly aids adventurers in sabotaging Nael. Adventurers kill Nael but it's too late to stop Dalamud's descent.

Scions go off to use the power of the 12 gods to try and stop Dalamud by sealing it while a massive Garlean force is out to fuck up Eorzea and conquer it, meeting the three city states in battle. Then the ARR cutscene happens.

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That's a nice STR ring you have there.
Mind if I take a look?

>>383935186
job designs were better

>>383925408
Normalfag

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I am missing something or sam opener has no burst?
>do thing with a monk, he does like 6k the first 10 seconds
>I can barely do 3.5k
I eventually catch up, but the opener is slow.

>>383931908
Wait who was that at the end with the lance?

>>383935221
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. I hate XIV but even I have to admit everything about the ending of 1.0 is aesthetic as fuck, or I guess you could call it kino if you are a fucking idiot.

>>383934960
The main plotline before 7UE stuff is canon, but basically irrelevant to ARR, and was something like
>Muh echo
>muh garleans
>muh primals
>muh mhigo and mhiggers getting everyone killed yet again

>>383935563
correct use of hagakure

>>383935563
The new WHM AF3 is a travesty.

>>383935042
You decided to open your bag? Game sends request to the server and thinks should it allow you to do it or not
You decided to open system menu? Well good luck with it because server is more likely down to the new requests already and there nothing you can do
Bassicly in mmo you usually send results of your actions to the server and server send it to the everyone around, in the xiv you send the actions you wanted to do then server did everything on it's side and send you results, then you send next action you wanted to do

>>383935038
What do you expect? MMO dungeons are built around having the player do them dozens, hundreds of times in order to get whatever garbage they're grinding for. Unless you're literally the first guy to be running in the first day, most people will be sick of it.

>>383935578
Nael van Darnus

>>383935335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=extzZHfS7rA&list=PL3P_LY_lUAcFsipGjnID49NAfBHvuqczg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIReTE4rNBs&t=890s
(This one is both Gridania and everything after the city stories come together.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU5N24_5VIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UamdJUCVs10&t=12s

When watching these, keep in mind that every time you see that 'woosh' effect, it's a subtle Echo vision that they never tell you is an Echo vision. The little girl in the Ul'dah cutscene is Minfilia, and the Yda here is actually the real Yda. The majority of the city storylines are actually taking place 10 years before the rest of the story.

>Doing the 60-70 SAM questline after doing the 50-60
How did they drop the ball so hard

>>383929442
> 1.0's lighting looks amazing
the game didn have real time lightning, it was prebaked, you can walk around a campfire and your shadow dont react with it, it always in the same place, nighttime isnt even that, they just add a blue tint.

>>383935683
That seems like a system that could be DDoSed very easily.

>>383935632
>>383934960
Speaking of muh Garleans/Primals/Mhigo, aren't we basically done with that entire arc? Feels like whatever comes after SB could be almost anything. We still have the Ascian shit, but somehow I get the feeling that won't end for another decade.

>>383935701
It was. It played as the servers went down.

>>383935245
>it's actually well made game
no, its not. there are still lots of functionality issues that games as old as world of warcraft dont have, but compared to 1.0, it's obviously going to look like perfection.

>>383935563
SAM has no real burst, and takes a little bit to get their buffs and debuffs up before they steady out their damage. You still outdamage everybody by miles without the burst, anyway.

>>383935563
>cat player
youre just bad is all

>>383935497
>STOP FUCKING DEALING DAMAGE YOU FUCKING TANKS RESPECT THE CONTENT EQUIP FENDING GEAR WITH NO STRENGTH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
What did Yoshi mean by this?

>>383935829
There are always more primals they can throw at us, and "only" having Ascians left is still worth an entire xpac, there are a bunch of them then you have to at least beat their god before the game can finally end, and even then they could probably stretch it out longer if they want to add in new realms from other FF games.

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>we will never get amazing cutscenes like the 1.0's ones
>old cities will never be updated to work like Kugane (no loading screens)
>we will never get 1.0 lightning
>Limsa will never look like Project Rapture's Limsa
https://youtu.be/sgtZvn5c4e4

>>383935986
>Enter dungeon
>tank is right side STR acc
>He blows up
Ebin

>>383935456
They also totally would've succeeded in resealing Bahamut if Louisoix hadn't rushed it. To be fair though, it was KIND OF A BIG THING and Atomos was also eating up aether
But it's just nice to know that the Twelve really -are- that strong, it's just a dubious idea to essentially summon high-grade Primals at once

>that one guy defending 1.0 to the death in every thread, a game panned by critics and fans alike and so bad that Square Enix, one of the most stubborn people in the entire industry, decided to kill it off and make a whole new game out of it

Imagine being this dumb and delusional, jesus.

>>383935743
Not that guy, but thanks, anon. I'll give those a watch.

>>383935829
Yeah. Stormblood was the resolution to an arc that had been going since 2.2 or even earlier. There's no obvious direction for the story from here, but I suspect the next expansion we'll be pressing on into Garlemald to try and deal with the Empire for good.

My prediction is that the Stormblood patch stories will focus on rebuilding Ala Mhigo and Doma, and dealing with the reticence caused by 20 years of oppression. By the end, Ala Mhigo will be fully operational and will serve as the 5.0 hub city.

>>383936087
Louisoix had to rush it because he wasn't expecting anything to pop out of the moon. He was planning on shoving it back into the sky at that moment. That also wasn't the actual Twelve, they were primals of the Twelve. And primals are as strong as the prayer focused at them.

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>Level 61 dungeon
>monk and drg
>pull 2 groups at a time
>only me and the healer using AoE
>no goads
>they don't even do good ST damage

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>>383935805
Oh. Well, I take back everything I said then.

Still, 2.0's lighting engine needs some serious work because it doesn't even work like it's supposed to half the time.

>>383935986
Meld a STR VI on your VIT gear

>>383936063
>1.0 Lighting

Stop this meme. 1.0 had no dynamic lighting, everything was prebaked.
Campfires and lamps didn't actually illuminate areas and Night is a color filter laid over everything.

>>383936095
I played through all of 1.0 and I can still take notice of all the(truly) massive flaws it had.
I do miss having to use Inns/sleep in beds to get Rested experience, but I can understand why they changed it

>>383936063
I hope one day they go back and revamp the zones. Not necessarily graphically, but more akin to this with the design of the city, its layout, and some lighting if possible. More interiors with more color, decorations, vibrant lighting, and NPCs.

>>383936209
>That also wasn't the actual Twelve, they were primals of the Twelve.
this is probably the hardest thing for people to understand, and for good reason, it's kind of underexplained most of the time, the only storyline that really explained it in any detail was the Shiva storyline in 3.0's MSQ, and even then they still sometimes use primal and god as the same entity at times which totally fucks up everything.

>>383936359
It's not about liking some details of 1.0, it's about thinking major things like the awful level design is anything to admire.

>>383935701
I didn't play it, but I heard that the big battle you see happened in game as well, it was part of the final events of the server shutting down

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Am I wasting my time looting Omega the "optimal" way?

>>383936498
Yeah, unless you're trying to gear 2 jobs at once. Capped tome gear comes out on Tuesday and will be better than Genta shit.

>>383936332
it works pretty fucking well, you can even see the shadows of the trees and buildings move in real time with the movement of the sun, what dont work that good is how lighting react with the player textures. sometimes it looks fucking horrible sometimes it looks good.

>>383936498
You'll be saving up the new tomes stones day one to get the weapon, so no.

>>383926493
So why is WoD crew there? I assume they're AU versions of WoL?
Is WoD world what would've happened to Eorzea if 1.X wasn't axed?

>>383936065
>talking about 4man content is the only line of defense VITfags have
pathetic...

did any mmo close with a move like this?

it's just the perfect way to end it.

>>383936063
>old cities will never be updated to work like Kugane (no loading screens)
Kugane really only gets away with not having loading screens because it's much smaller compared to the older city-states when you consider their total size from both areas combined. I really wish they'd get the same treatment but sadly it probably won't happen.

>>383936590
The splitted worlds are probably pretty close to the one we are in right now. Like instead of Limsa Lominsa it's called Lumsa Labumsa in their world or something gay like that.

>>383936590
The WoDs saved their world. None of that happened. But remember that the WoDs gave up their bodies to travel through the Rift, just like Ascians. That means they had to steal new bodies when they got to our world. The implication is that they took the bodies of that party in the video.

So did they ever explain why Lousiox is a nigger but his grandkids end up White?

>>383934543
5 years pass in game and (if you played in 1.0) you show back up with no one remembering who you were. The vanilla endgame had you fighting him and killing him for good.

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So if the old Guy becomes Super Saiyan Elf God and kills Bahamut, why does the player have to kill bahamut?

>>383936498
Are you going to do Savage? If no then who cares about gear progression
If yes: Are you going for Server First Races? If no then it doesn't matter because Square said Omega will be as easy as Creator so you'll have it on farm in 2 weeks anyway.
If you are going for the progression race then yeah sure, it probably would help.

>>383936681
Limsa and Ishgard are really the only ones that you might argue that for. Ul'dah and Gridania aren't bigger than Kugane.

>>383926512
kill yourself jiro

>>383936710
Oh, right.

>>383936772
Because play the fucking game you faggot.

>>383936772
Because dragons kept in stasis still prayin to him

>>383936590
Because they needed a 'face'. Making them the WoD was probably retroactive.

>tfw I suck at video games
>try really hard to get into FFXIV and learn everything about the combat
>after two years still sucking and every dungeon is an anxiety nightmare as I know everyone's going to yell at me
>finally stop playing all together
>go back online every other week just to run around and do some of the single player stuff
>stop paying a few weeks ago
e-enjoy your game anons...

>>383936772
Bahamut used his last breath to claim the old guy's soul and make him his slave. The old guy then starts reactivating the pieces of the moon (which contain dragons in stasis), to resummon Bahamut. You have to put him down too.

>>383936851
Be serious, it's an MMO, I'm not gonna get into it to find out minor plot details.

>>383936909
Man. Fuck that bahamut guy.

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>>383936865
have u tried not being shit you internet stuttering shitter?

>>383936971
It's not "minor" at all, it's one of the most important things in the entire game.

>>383937045
It's minor to me, who is only interested in the cinematic and not the game, but I appreciate the clarification.

>>383936865
>i suck at pushing an order of buttons and moving out of danger zones

how can someone be this bad at video games ?

>>383936865
Honestly if you can't get at least mediocre at FFXIV then you should stop playing video games altogether.

>>383934543
you get to kill a mini version of him to stop him from fully reawakening

>>383937027
I did... I really did...

>>383937045
Well for new players it's impossible to do the coils and know the story.

>>383936063
>>Limsa will never look like Project Rapture's Limsa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xir1HD6yH1E

>>383930204
>game did so bad you had to recreate the entire game within 2 years while also releasing these ridiculous build up patches to the original failed game that had less than 50k subs by that point
Yoshi P is a fucking madman

>>383934543
Full sized Primal Bahamut will be the final final 7.55 boss. Preasu Rook Fowahd to eet.
SUH FUH

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>>383936807
Wut?

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>He only has one 70

Only a few more days worth of botting then I'll be done until profiles for DoH/DoL are released.

>>383934543
He's the final boss of the Coils of Bahamut raid and it's still one of the best fights in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chv2O_DzfjU

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>Unlock level 70 SAM ability
>use it

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>>383926493
I didn't know Nicol Bolas was in FF

>>383937313
pay every month for a game then let the computer play it for you.


you are great anon

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>>383937393
>still no way of experiencing coil the normal way because there's no fucking incentives to run it synced
Fucking Crystal Tower has undersized disabled but coil doesn't? Fix your fucking shit, SE.

See you in September /v/

>>383936710
>saved
More like completely fucked their world.

>>383937681
They just need to release something like Wonderous Tails with better rewards that requires you to run shit synced

>>383937736
Only because they were too good at saving it.

>>383934106
They might've had a chance to do something like that when they decided to fuck with time travel and shit but it looks like they just kept rolling with it

Live letter today
What do you expect

>>383934906
Same here. I played the 14 beta and dropped it pretty quickly despite loving 11, but I still come back and rewatch this cutscene every so often because holy shit it's so good.

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>>383924768
Did any mmo did a move like this? i mean, it's pretty ballsy to close your game with that.

I hope the days WoW close, somethings like that happen.

>>383937921
For all the stupid gaijan dps jobs to continue to bend over for grorious 10000000000 folded steel nihon job

>>383938012
Yeah that's from FFXIV 1.0 the game failed so hard they had to kill it and completely remake it but they actually worked it into the story

>>383937453
Well the bahamut we all know is just a warped, summoned version of the real nigga Bahamut. Real guy died way back.

>>383933540
>1.23 was not a good game
Stopped reading there. Aside still having assets as 1.0, it was much better than what we have now in terms of job design, and end game.

End game is running one exr a day, followed by 4 """savage""" bosses they have to keep nerfing because despite having a story mode for shitters to experience the content, they now want savage to be story mode itself. Primals are downed in the first hour by anybody with a half decent raid LS so that hardly contributes. The only remaining worthwhile endgame activities remaining are crafting/gathering which are arguably better no

>>383936710
I just assumed the implication was that the other worlds are literally just dual worlds with the same people but just different power struggles. So they have the same people and so of course they look like the canon WoL party because thats just what they look like in all the worlds

>>383937182
I believe in you, i wish i could help

>>383938298
I assumed they kept nerfing the content because they were going to kill off the original game and wanted everyone to have the chance to see that content before it was gone forever

>>383938298
You're lying to yourself

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>>383938012
at the end of vanilla WoW (maybe a few days or a week, cant remember) Blizz spawned near some fucked up bosses at the entrance of all major cities on every server. Dunno if you know kazzaks design but its main ability was some massive AoE that pretty much 1 shot everything and restore a massive health % for everyone it killed

nothing near as good as the ff14 event but at least it was something and as far as I know the only time they ever did anything like that

>>383938435
They look the same on a geographic level because they're Reflections, but it was confirmed they have completely different histories, cultures, and races. The lore book even puts a (?) when describing the races of the WoDs because those aren't their actual bodies.

>>383938691
Current Blizz would never do something like this.

>>383938298
>it was much better than what we have now in terms of job design, and end game.
Sometimes I wonder did people who post shit like this even played back then

Didnt they tip the iceberg in the last days of club penguin?

What are the primary 4 attributes or so I want as a DRK?

Do I want vit > str > direct hit > tenacity?
I have no diea.

>>383938867
Yes

>>383934537
Okay, so that puts the whole weird shit with Nael to a rest. Still, I wish the translation team would have use a more faithful translation and don't sound like Bahamut was a sick fuck that transformed Nael into a girl.

>>383938959
Str > Direct hit > Crit > Det > Piety > Tenacity

>>383937407
I pity the dps who will never know such big number joys.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1URFEoRpss8

>>383938959
the fuck cares just pick tank equipment , materia is useless

>>383926493

I didn't even play 1.0 and this cinematic is fucking amazing. Remembering my journey through the Coil makes it even better. T13 was one hell of a fight when I finally got there, in every way imaginable.

When people ask why I sub for this game, it's because of experiences like that. It's hard to explain and it's not always recognizable immediately, but struggling through Coil from T1 all the way to the end was fucking worth it. Gobbies and Omega just aren't on the same level as slowly inching closer to a demigod who fucked up the world and killing it before it can finish regenerating. Oh, and we have to kill the guy who saved us all on the way. The sense of wonder and creeping dread in Coil just can't be matched by Illuminati and extraterrestrial death match gauntlets, as cool as they are.

>>383939101
>cat slut with slut glam makes meme video
Why am I not surprised

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>>383938691
>Blizz spawned near some fucked up bosses at the entrance of all major cities on every server.
I love when GMs do stuff like this in games. XIV 1.0 did this, too. They spawned a bunch of edited boss monsters and super strong versions of other monsters to attack the cities.

Some players even formed walls like the Great Goobbue Wall to keep them out.

>>383934584
In DS3's final DLC, The Ringed City, an NPC slaughter every single human in the planet in order to gather up the Dark Soul (because every all humans carries a small part of it), so her lady can use it as pigment for a new painting world.

>>383936865
Just be a crafting bitch and do some comfy fishing.

>>383934951
So he's responsible for those fucking shit job resource things that came with Stormblood?

>>383924768
Oh, man, it really is sad to see an MMO die, even if it's one I haven't played.

>>383939414
It died for a glorious rebirth it was a good thing

>>383939147
Tenacity is terrible though, Direct Hit helps everyone more exceor for bad healers who don't know better

>>383939535
Oh, it'll sort of "come back"?

>>383939669
It already came back my dude FFXIV is one of the top MMOs now instead of the biggest MMO failure ever

>>383925408
Soken is great; I just wish Uematsu did more in arr

>>383939305
How is that slut glam?

>>383939821
Anything that's not a hijab is slut glam on a cat

>>383938691
I know it's over-referenced at this point, but the zombie event will always be my favorite. The end-of-vanilla event was fun, but I played Alliance and spent a lot of time in Stormwind, so I was used to people kiting bosses from the Blasted Lands to the city and murdering everything. The first time I logged in on Quel'danas, and got immediately jumped by like six player zombies, each with a micro army of zombies blew my mind. I spent the next week locking down every city I could with that shit.

>>383939712
Hmm, might check it out, then. How's the combat? I'm a real fan of TERA's combat and would love to see a similar thing in a good MMO.

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>Servers shutting down
>Devs give players GM abilities and just let them go to town

>>383939898
FFXIV has traditional MMO combat it's nothing like TERA you're not gonna have a good time

>>383939898
>I'm a real fan of TERA's combat

Play Vindictus then. This is tab combat with a 2.5s GCD on spells.

>>383937231
It is a bit weird that they used old Limsa as a background, but it was probably done by someone not directly related to the dev team. I don't think Yoshida would tease some new content like that.
inb4 it's a new 4-man dungeon

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>playing MSQ
>suddenly Susano
Oh man I'm nervous now after all the posts I've seen. I hope I don't get a bad group.

>>383940147
SEAS PART FOR WE ALONE

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Leave MMOs to me.

>>383940147
>>383940203
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREJOICE

>>383940147
Theres almost no mechanics that will wipe you in story mode.

>>383940147
Susano is easy, anon. Avoid his AoEs.


HOW OUR SOULS SING IN THE CHAOS

>>383939986
>Vindictus
Looks great, thanks man.

>>383940367
It's dead as fuck though I hope you enjoy playing by yourself

>>383940367
You can check out Black Desert Online as well, but I've heard that's extremely grindy/p2w. Best character creator I've seen though.

>>383940203
>>383940297
>>383940364
'Twas a memorable dance indeed!

>>383940147
KA

KA

KA

His english VA is shit

>>383939898
It's boring and slow at low levels, but gets really good towards the end.
I think it can be seen as a good thing that the game doesn't give you everything during the first few hours like most modern MMOs, there's always something to look forward to.

Also, people who say you use skills every 2.5 seconds are memeing, it's more like the skills are divided in two categories, ones that you use in set intervals and ones that go in between those

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>>383939860
>The end-of-vanilla event was fun, but I played Alliance and spent a lot of time in Stormwind, so I was used to people kiting bosses from the Blasted Lands to the city and murdering everything


uhuhhh, suuurrre

>>383940203
>>383940297
>>383940328
>>383940364
>>383940438
>>383940454
>tfw hype now
I'm assuming his theme is really good then.

>>383940454
I'll fight you

>>383940497
Its nothing super amazing, but I enjoy it none the less.

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>>383940478
???

>>383940454
He's like a whimsical genie. So fuck you.

>>383940497
It's like bismarcks theme it's just background music pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDG7ID6_Txg

At least Lakshmi's theme makes up for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZECPXDPivVU

>>383938814
they literally did a beefed up version for the legion patch.

>>383940203
>>383940297
>>383940438
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE WAY

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>>383940408
>>383940435
>>383940468
>it's blocked in my country

That's fucking it, I'll live this shithole for good in 5 years tops.

>>383940497
It's not among the best the game has (that's a really high bar though), but it's unique, fits the fight and has great percussions.
Still, it's Susano himself that steals the show

>>383940708
Bollywood primal theme is the best theme this expansion.

>>383940730
>leave
Fix'd
I'm literally shaking, sorry

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KA KA KA!

>>383940478
nigga you dumb.

people still kite world bosses to cities today.

>>383940726
WILD AND PURE AND FFFFFFOOORRRRRREVER FREE

>>383940830
Fucking love it I never turned off the music through all those pug ex runs

>>383940710
Not really. They spawned bosses sure, but it was a zone near the city, not the city itself. You'd phase once it happened anyway, so it's not like you could pull dumb shenanigans with it either.

Fantastic way to level though. I got like 4 or 5 characters to 100 that way.

>>383940478
>He never kited Kazzak to stormwind
Laughingelves.jpg

>>383940710
It was hand-holdy in a way that sucks the fun out of everything

>>383935972
I'm a hyur though.

>>383940959
that only happened on 2 servers before kazzak was put on a leash and tethered to blasted lands

>>383926493
Someone recommend me an anime as awesome as this

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>>383940840
>People are still having problems with Suasnoo
>People dying cause other people to die.
I cant believe this shit how is this shit fucking allowed ?

man i hope ESO will let us live out a dragon break

>>383940478
>Being this retarded

I don't think you understand the sheer amount of deadly shit that could easily be kited to Stormwind.

>Kazzak
>Teremus
>Twilight Corrupter

Hell, completing the Onyxia attunement quest would spawn like 6 level 60 elites in the throne room.

>>383941215
The sequel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAoBojYsuOI

>>383941215
>anime
>awesome

>>383941250
>below 10%
>that one thundercloud spawns behind where boss is and the guy with marker panics and overlaps the shit causing a wipe

>>383936865

If you lack the capacity to remember simple strings of keyboard presses how are you even a functioning member of society? How are you even able to keep a job, or finish school?

>>383926493
>Gotta use the power of friendship to seal him
>I AM BAHAMUT, BITCH! STAY DOWN!
What a badass

>>383939249
I am a new players that started a little before SB, but the moment that moved me when starting Crystal Tower and seeing all 24 players walking into view.
It felt rather surreal. Guess that was people feel when hardcore raiding.

I like both FFXIV and WoW

>>383941330
The last scene when the MC is changing into dragoon is pretty awesome. It gave me chills.

Edgyth is cute!

CUTE!!

>>383941215
Make thread on /a/ and link it here

>>383941650
I wish I hated XIV so I could stop playing it.

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Rescue should be on the 2.5 gcd to keep dumb tanks trying to pull more than they handle on a leash, 140s is too long and those dogs don't learn the first time.

>>383937921
Nothing new. They'll talk about a few of the job adjustments and take some forum questions.

But anything 4.1 and Ivalice related will be in 2 months.

Oh, they'll probably announce or show off the Moonfire Faire event.

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>>383941330
>>383941679
>they actually play out the scene in-game when you're walking past all the fleeing soldiers

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>>383941650

>>383941330
I still love how they dropped half the plot of that cinematic by the first patch. That whole uldah plot was such fucking anticlimactic trash potato princess should have stayed dead and lolorito should have stayed a villain

>>383941650
That's perfectly fine, they're honestly not too different. I enjoyed my free month of ARR,
and wish I wouldn't have to pay two sub fees to play both.

>>383939249
It's true that nothing can ever match the feel that Coil had, but Alexander and Omega are still really inspired and unique in their own right

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>>383941706
>UUUUUUGGHGG WHY AM I SUCH A RETARD
>WHY AM I SO USELESS UGGHH
i wanted to punch her so bad

>>383933540
We get it, you want new experiences handed to you on a silver platter so you can desperately cling to the notion that you're playing a "good" game. Not everyone is like you though, anon. Not everyone needs the monotonous rat race of vertical progression to enjoy a video game. Some people actually enjoy playing video games because they're fun, challenging or have a sense of community and not because they're compelled to play by a gear treadmill, or daily quests, or weekly lockout timers.

The world design was much more expansive in 1.0 and while 2.0 does offer you a more unique aesthetic for each camp location they're also tiny and go completely unused. You're right that people used to do leves, but you're wrong to think that there was dead space. Almost every nook and cranny in 1.0 had some kind of mob that could be killed to collect a resource unique to it while in 2.0 there's a bunch of area that has literally nothing in it except flora in an already tiny map.

Crafting and Gathering was in no way broken. Menus were laggy at first, yes, but that was a problem they fixed entirely by 2011 at the latest.

Endgame wasn't the best it could be but it was enjoyable - unlike 2.0 entirely. It had a sense of meaning to it. There were real compelling reasons for you to be killing those primals or breaking into places and beating up those bosses. The story of 2.0 is nothing but generic anime tropes and shameless nostalgia pandering.

Fights were far from incredibly simple. You used skills in 1.0 just like you do in 2.0 and you saw most of the mechanics currently present in 2.0 in the 1.0 content. Don't forget 1.0 had Ifrit, Garuda and Moggle Mog all of which served as the basis of boss fights for years to come. Oh and remember Battle Regimens? When every member of the party had to play correctly to succeed instead of just building up a bar and then one person getting a big boom ala LBs now?

>>383940497
I personally love Susano's theme, it's in my workout playlist now.

>>383941887
how does that work if I don't play on unlocking lancer?

>>383933402
>That's kind of amazing, thank you. It's a real pity the game was such a mess to start off.
It's pretty much only because it was a mess that any of this shit ever happened. It forced them to try some bold risks and paid off heavily.

>>383942126
>1.0
>world design
Wasn't it literally copy and paste? You people laughed at it. I saw it. People got lost because they passed the same waymarks multiple times.

>>383942250
It shows you in your slut glam and completely ruins it

>>383942250
They don't have you putting on the armor, just the cool walk past everyone running away.

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>doma liberation was 1000x better on the benchmark than ingame
Thanks ps4

>>383942250
Here's what it looks like just insert your character
https://youtu.be/QQqg4B8FbyU?t=4m37s

>>383941650
I only played FF14 beta and thought it was shit but I'm 100% sure the current game is better than current WoW

>>383941920

They are, and I especially liked A12. It was a fitting finale and felt frantic without ever being overwhelming. It just didn't have the same personal stakes that Coil did and it wasn't at all essential to the main story. Omega seems to be more of the same- an interesting side-quest that involves MSQ characters, but entirely optional and therefore not quite as "epic" or important despite all of Omega's threats to annihilate us. Regardless of what we do there, it won't affect the larger narrative at all. Not like Coil where we really had to stop this big bad guy that fucked up the world at the end of 1.x, whose power and 2 minutes of freedom forever scarred the world.

Omega so far hasn't been anything special outside of O3, but I was never really into FFV so I don't have the nostalgiaboner some people do to help me like it more. I hope Savage changes my opinion since it's going to be a long wait for O5-8.

>>383941389
It also doesn't help when the servers are still fucked beyond belief I had a Tank Disconnect mid fight and I ended up rezzing him and he just died again. Fuckin SE