This is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AiNxbv-a9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_rSQGavuiI
even tim "financially responsible adult" schafer was able to make a game for like a tenth of the money star citizen got.
>>383920970
all of his games are no where near the technical ambitions of Star Citizen
>>383921627
It's true, schafer never tried to string along millions of people for years just to get a bunch of mansions and yachts.
>>383922046
Roberts doesn't need to string people along for mansions and yachts, he's had them since before half this board was born.
>>383920642
1) The graphics look like shit.
2) Taking the time to create trailers to generate more hype for more cash is a massive red flag.
The Order literally has better graphics. A 2015 PS4 (not PS4 Pro) game has better graphics than Star Citizen. What a fucking disaster.
>>383922107
By stringing along publishers, who eventually got tired of his shit. He just found some new marks.
>>383922157
Too bad the game was shit. It was pretty but it was also garbage.
>>383920642
whens this game out? wasn't it meant to be finished fucking years ago?
>>383922710
everything changed when they made more than 5 million
>>383922157
>comparing a hastily thrown together video showcasing some procedural shit you can visit in the next alpha release to a tiny linear 'game' polished to a mirror sheen
Compare it to Squadron 42 when they show it off.
>>383922753
They fucked up big time, and then claimed they "changed their objectives" to make up for the missed milestones and decade long delays.
And because it worked, they did it again. And again. And again.
>>383922710
Never, and no it wasn't.
Their fault for chasing the MMO dragon, people just wanted Wing Commander with gwaphics :Q, instead we got instance shards and years of concept images that get scrapped when they realize how retarded designed the ships are.
>>383923031
screw over the original kickstarter backers and get money for a much bigger "dream" sounds alright
post the door and the coffee machine
>>383923179
Except when they couldn't even deliver what they originally claimed they'd deliver. The "dream" gets bigger and bigger, as the likelyhood of it happening in a million years keeps gets smaller and smaller.
>>383923346
>Except
? that's what i said
coming soon to star citizen: fluid physics
>>383920642
>He believes in Scam Citizen
Tip top de la keke
>>383922710
>Except when they couldn't even deliver what they originally claimed they'd deliver. The "dream" gets bigger and bigger, as the likelyhood of it happening in a million years keeps gets smaller and smaller.
now where have we heard that before
>>383923342
Dumping all the memes I have, you may have it.
holy fuck this is pretentious
>>383923483
one of my top 3 games
>>383923607
even if you liked the final product it's a fact that the game was in development hell until microsoft bailed them out and it was missing a lot of the key features it was supposed to have.
>2017
>still no game
>still stringing along the cultists
wew
>>383923396
>water acts like a mass of springs instead of autistically simulating the particles
This pleases me
>>383923894
wew the anti-cult cult is strong
Can't wait for 3.0
>all this shitpostings
The salt is real.
>>383923797
What's the summary on the PVP dealio? Are they still discussing "the slider" or are they dreaming another design?
>>383923389
You missed the part where they COULDN'T DO IT.
>>383924079
found the delusional cultist
we're laughing at you
we're all laughing at you.
>>383924136
yeah, the original backers got fucked
>>383923682
cute!
>>383924072
When is it out?
>in the time since this game was announced, I learned to game dev, made my own space game, and now have sales on it
I'd post my trailer but I don't want to get downvoted by the cultists and become the next Derek Smart target of their aggression (which comes about from the lack of a fun game to play)
>>383924283
>When is it out?
>>383924079
What kind of salt are we talking about? Backer's salt?
>>383924283
August-September probably
>>383924369
hi derek smart
>>383920642
How big is this fucking game going to be?
>>383924283
december 2016: https://youtu.be/Z-3YBuFI3iI?t=1444
>>383921627
At least what Tim does is possible with the current technology. Also, he respects a deadlines more than our Lord and Savior Roberts.
>>383924452
>probably
That's the rub eh
>tfw 3.0 delayed again
>>383920642
this looks great but sadly what's actually playable looks nothing like that
>>383924483
It's a little buggy.
>>383924793
>2013
>>383924634
not even paying attention considering it'll play with 20-40 fps as it does now
>>383924645
that's exactly it
people really need to look at what's actually in the game instead of what's in the latest bullshit video from CIG
>>383924015
Jesus fucking Christ
>>383924793
Ironically, dreams is all Chris has sold us so far.
>>383920642
release date?
graphically it looks inferior to most ps4 games, those character models are shit, like just pure shit
have they fixed the god awful FPS module yet? last time they demoed it it looked like something a child made in early access
>>383925552
2Q 2030
Do we really need another space game with uninteristing characters?
>>383925509
Improved version : https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1500061115234.webm
>>383921627
At least he released a game. Not continuing a scam.
>>383925703
well there *was* a lack of space games on the market when SC got started
>>383926013
>>383925359
>our coffee educator
Holy shit
>>383926014
No he did both. He kickstarted a game, then kickstarted a couple others claiming it was "different teams" but in reality they should be making enough from their kickstarted games to fund any future developements if they were competent.
Star Citizen may be going a grueling pace but at least they haven't tried kickstarting another fucking game yet.
>>383926209
yes its alpha, shits gonna be buggy, complaining about bugs at this point is retarded pleb tier bullshit
you want the game to look bad, point out how bad the upcoming content is, like that god awful fps module
>>383926389
even in an alpha, features like "a ship sitting on a landing pad without glitching the fuck out" should be working
>>383926547
I don't even recall this being an issue ever, but alright.
>>383925703
Ill-defined space exploration games are the perfect genre to make a kickstarter for or drive preorders with because it caters well to autists and has never been done well enough to satisfy them
Look at Spore and NMS
>>383926013
>Mark Zuckerberg
What.
>>383922157
Jesus Christ. You know how I know you are a sonybro? You are STILL talking about the order 1886 years later and you still are under the delusion it was a good game. You people are just fucking embarrassing.
boy i can't wait to get my Oculus VR and play this
>>383926652
How is it not an issue? Do you consider >>383926209
an improvement?
>>383920642
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>>383920642
Did pc cucks get their dream game yet?
>>383927090
It's not an issue because you always could land your ship normally.
Posting a bunch of webms from years ago when they had roughly 15~ people working on it while trying to build a company and still got something out for backers to play with doesn't really change that.
>people walking around talking about how cool ships are
yeah great trailer faggot
this thing is going to make TORTanic look like a mosquito
>>383924072
ah yes, the magic patch that will finally silence all the naysayers. this time it will happen for real
>>383927128
my dream game has transformed into Camelot Unchained 'cus I lost interest in spaceflight
>>383927049
did they forget to invent polarized headsets so you don't get fucking glares every 2 seconds?
>game is released
>grind for months and finally get a cool ship
>some 12 year old flies by and blows it up within 5 minutes
>"should've bought that space insurance bro"
"fun"
>>383926946
>"shitty hud.webm"
>flashing holographic shapes distracting me from the lock-on delay
>I am actually entertained
This is gorgeous.
>>383927227
lol if you actually think this shit was fixed years ago
kys retard
>>383920642
Those graphics are already looking aged.
lmao.
I feel bad for the horde of retards who fell for this.
>>383927438
>>"should've bought that space insurance bro"
>It's not p2w just an insurance bro
Those star citizen fans are fucking retarded for thinking that.
>>383927594
Do you also call EVE insurance P2W?
>>383927487
every fucking time I laugh at this
>>383927672
yes? any microtransaction that gives you an advantage is by definition p2w
>>383927672
Not interested in spreadsheet simulators.
>>383927776
It's not a microtransaction for either game though.
>>383927850
can you convert real money to a funny bucks system that allows you to buy insurance? yes/no
>>383927672
Eve didn't kickstart itself with 150,000 USD ships
>>383927672
Nigga some people literally paid enough money to finish the game before it's even released.
>>383927776
>EVE insurance isn't a play-to-win strategy. It's more like a "play-to-make-sure-I-have-another-ship-to-lose" because if your character's skills aren't high enough, you flying around in a tech 3 cruiser means you're already dead.
>>383928151
This game sucks cock.
>>383927672
everyone honest will tell you eve online is p2w, especially because it's legal to buy other people's characters and there's a market for it on their forums.
>>383928421
>dreadnought sucks
I bet you're the guy who rushes into the enemy team in a dreadnought thinking your invincible
>>383926547
>even in an alpha
I don't think you understand what an alpha is. Do you even software dev?
>>383928560
sure, but that's why there should be a distinction how a game being p2w affects the gameplay
p2w in archeage means you dominate everyone
p2w in eve online means you can die more often
>>383928330
pay*-to-win
pay*-to-make-sure-I-have-another-ship-to-lose
>>383928571
Not that guy but they fucked their game up so bad during beta. That stupid shipyard update killed the game for me and all of my friends.
i keep forgetting that this thing exists and i've paid money for it until i see one of these threads. i've only got starter pack with aurora tho i didn't scammed that much.
>>383920642
How many years have pcbros been waiting for this shit now?
>all this salt over a game in Alpha that you can use your big boy brain to opt into or not
If you backed SC and are salty, you're just a fucking retard who doesn't know how to use YouTube. If you haven't backed it and your salty, you should consider getting a hobby, like playing video games or something. Maybe see a therapist.
>Big budget game takes forever to release
>Nobody bats an eye
>Star Citizen does the same
>HURR WHY ISNT RELEASE MORE LIKE SCAM CITIZEN LOOK AT THIS DERICK SMART POST
>>383923682
I see three faggots a bunch of normals, what is this meant to be showing?
>>383925109
Its a shitshow, going from single player running smoothly to take capped 20 (If you're lucky) of multiplayer is garbage. Not a big deal I guess for my personally, I don't want to hang around these autistic roleplayers online, rather just play S42.
>>383929748
>big budget game sticks to its timelines, doesn't announce until they have a good idea of when it will release, and usually only slips at most 6 months-1 year
>star citizen is now three years late with zero realistic release date in sight
We're actually starting to think about Duke Nukem Forever timelines here because there's no way this game releases for at least another year. It's already been 5 years.
I'm just waiting for the inevitable moment when the game either gets released and all the salty SC haters get BTFO and mocked OR when the game doesn't get released and the scammed SC fanboys get BTFO and mocked by everyone. Either way the butthurt will be hilarious
>>383930212
CIG never had a release date for SC either, just Squadron 42.
>all this insane hype for No Citizen's Star
I can't remember the last time everything went better than expectedI actually can, it was Deus Ex HR.
>>383930376
That's a very delusional assumption, because we all know the SC fagboys are gonna get blown out regardless of the outcome of their tech demo.
>>383920642
I made it up until the sheboon.
>>383930416
>CIG never had a release date for star citizen
>>383930709
You know they added Kickstarter only because people wanted more payment options right?
>>383930376
This.
Ultimately the game will be shit when they realize only one tenth of like the quarter billion dollars sunk into this abyss actually went towards development instead of hookers, coke, and 15k coffee machines.
On the flip side, if it comes out with any redeeming qualities at all, the haters will be fucking rectally ragnarocked.
It's a win-win scenario for high-level shitposters.
>>383930376
Why would they ever release a game? Shit's going far to well for them, they should keep it in development forever and keep raking in the donations.
>>383930881
Contrary to popular belief, people only throw money at them when they show good progress being made.
>>383930709
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>>383930763
>get BTFO on an obvious lie
>go into deflection mode
>>383930709
Its almost like they got far, far more than expected and moved the release date when they decided to make a far bigger project.
>>383931156
Correction, backers decided it since they had a poll.
Only a retard would vote for them just pocketing the rest of the money anyway.
>>383923396
That's not fluid physics. It's just a softbody mesh or even a cloth with painted weights. This technique has been available at least since 1995 on various 3d animation software packages.
>>383924015
There's no way this is real. This is done ironically like? Because nobody could have so little self awareness as to make something this cringe inducingly awful.
>>383931298
depends on your definition of physics I suppose
>>383931156
>In June 2000, Microsoft started talks to buy Digital Anvil. Roberts admitted that his team required large sums of money, which only a huge company could provide, to continue developing Freelancer with its "wildly ambitious" features and unpredictable schedule; the project had overshot its original development projection of three years by 18 months. Roberts trusted that Microsoft would not compromise his vision for Freelancer, and was convinced the software giant would not attempt the takeover if it did not believe Freelancer could sell at least 500,000 copies when released.[38] Roberts left the company on completion of the deal, but assumed a creative consultant role on Freelancer until its release.[39] Microsoft instructed Digital Anvil to scale down the ambitions of the project and focus on finishing the game based on what was possible and the team's strengths
rly makes me think, you just gave money to a totally trustworthy person.
>>383931423
what was untrustworthy about that statement?
>>383931406
Little obnoxious cunt, know it all. Just kill yourself. Do you work in the industry?
>>383931596
>the project had overshot its original development projection of three years by 18 months.
>Microsoft instructed Digital Anvil to scale down the ambitions of the project and focus on finishing the game based on what was possible and the team's strengths
tl;dr this fuck has no idea on how to manage money and will crash and burn everything unless there's someone telling him to get his shit together, too bad that right now there's nobody and morons keep throwing him money.
>>383931842
so it might just be justified this time around considering he has a cash inflow to support these supposed ambitions
I thought Chris Roberts was a top tier scammer and cult leader before I found out about Elon Musk. Now there's a swindle for the ages. At least Roberts doesn't take your money by force.
>>383931942
>At least Roberts doesn't take your money by force
What?
>>383931942
Yeah, at least Roberts delivers on his promises unlike Musk.
>>383924913
Suprised this isnt a lego model to represent the actual fidelity of the game.
>>383930416
>20-22 months in [backers ]will get to play the Star Citizen Beta, adventuring around the huge open galaxy, well before the general public.
>Chris Roberts in 2012
>>383932214
Musk funds his project through taxpayer's money. If you're an American, you're giving it to him.
>>383932267
it looked pretty good in 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB3XvwWMsEc&feature=youtu.be#t=38
>>383932395
Not reading a release date in here mate.
>>383920642
Where's the actual gameplay? This is a HUGE red flag when they only show concept art and bullshot cutscene footage.
>>383932628
3.0's meant the be the first open implementation of the *MMO* gameplay, which is due in august or some shit
>>383932807
the last time they said august they actually meant next year
>>383932628
Gameplay is like a ww1 airplane sim only with shitty lazers and bugs and (i'm not kidding) 10-15 fps
>>383932807
you're not up to date. best case scenario gamescom, actual probable date december (with some barebone updates and nonsense like a procedural planet or two). What they marketed as something actually playable, SQ42 is looking at end of 2018 release (which means late 2019 at the earliest).
SQ42 was supposed to show up in 2016, just for the reference.
>>383931596
>Someone gives you an article clips that shows how Robert handled Freelancer, which so far parallels Star Citizen with the delays and over expansive scope, where he just bailed after being bought out and the game was toned down to be salvaged
>"How does this show I can't trust him?"
Lol honestly I'm not even one of the naysayers, I don't think Star Citizen will ever happen on the scale they want but I think we'll end up with a neat watered down version that might be fun.
I even got a Mustang Beta ages ago but I knew when I bought it I may never use it besides the little exploring I did so far.
>>383920642
It better be amazing, I gave up my house down payment for this game.
>>383932949
>>383933001
no, this is from >>383924634
Best part of this saga wil happen in 2022 - The game is (((almost))) done, we're going to introduce microtransactions to polish it to perfection! We're almost there squad, please help us with this final plush! Decal for your ship starting from 50 bucks, but after the game is released you will be able to earn it with in game credits in just a few minutes, honest!
>first "trailer" doesn't show anything relevant, just stupid personas talking about personal bullshit/don't care.
>second "trailer"
>minor physics display on shotglasses and landspeeders
>mobiglass
too long, didn't watch
Get the game done, Roberts. Focus on the basics: online space dogfighter. Make sure the basics work without glitches or crashes. And then push that sucker out. Stop thinking too much on how to implement your funds. Just get the basics of the game made and push the sucker out.
>>383929748
source
>>383933242
>we're going to introduce microtransactions to polish it to perfection
There are already microtransactions out the ass.
>>383929748
>Big budget game takes forever to release
>Nobody bats an eye
What game are you referring to in this?
>paying money for a virtual space ship in a virtual game
It's like double-VR or VVR
they should totally use that as a slogan
>>383933001
Don't insult WW1 sims.
In a WW1 flight sim you have to constantly manage airspeed, energy, stalls, turbulence, crosswinds, airframe and engine overstress, etc. etc.
Star Citizen is literally "turn in a circle until enemy is in crosshair".
>>383933080
Please don't let this be true.
Wouldn't be nice if the trailer was showing gameplay? Yeah...that would be nice.
>>383934080
Stop being so entitled.
It's going to be your fault when the game comes out as a broken mess.
>>383920642
As someone starting amateur gamedev the second video is actually pretty neat, showing various tools/workflows of a AAA project. Goddamn that's a lot of manhours.
>>383920642
>This is amazing
It will be amazing if this scam ever actually releases.
I'll be stick to eve.
>>383923179
yousuck dogs cock
>>383934302
Oh shit, i'm sorry.
>>383934423
You'll probably find this one interesting too then.
https://youtu.be/qOjXfNnhxf0
I didn't really find the behind the scenes aspect that interesting on this week's AtV.
>>383934836
a freelancer 2.0 would've been too easy
>>383934873
Fagtard.
>>383934725
EVE was fun back in 2010. Great graphics. What an awesome feeling to go guide the evacuation of an entire corporation through a chain of wormholes from nullsec to empire, and other similar adventures.
But I lost my life to that game. Holy shit.
the MUH INSTANT GRATIFICATION meme will never again deceive me. Real life is too important for that.
>liquid responding to ingame gravity
was worried they wouldn't have the funds to implement this key feature
>>383934909
thanks anon
>*googles scrum development*
>>383920642
embarrassing.