How's this net neutrality thing going to impact my vidya?

>>383911016

If you're a burger, you're fucked. If you're not a burger, you get to laugh at burgers even moreso than usual

I imagine that if this goes through, ISPs are going to offer "gamer" packages for fast* game downloading and great* online multiplayer speeds.

>>383911123
until your shit leaders look at burgerland as an example of how to suck even more money out of their citizens and follow suit

Don't worry guys, the free market will save us :^)

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The American internet infrastructure seems like a mess,there's so little competing providers that the few that exist can get away with buttfucking their customers.

Hopefully this creates a need for alternative internet such as meshnet

>>383911198

>Murica
>we don't believe in climate change and are pulling out
>rest of the world
>ya, naw, you're retarded.

Really makes you think

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>>383911123
But what if other countries start to follow Amerifats' model

>>383911016
Don't ask about it here because all you're going to get is /pol/ sucking Trump's dick and telling you how paying your ISP for faster access to /v/ is actually a good thing.

>>383911016
I thought Trump and the Republicans were for muh freedom?


wtf bros??????

>in before SJW numale cucks try to brainwash /v/ into thinking capitalism is bad

You're fooling nobody, guys. 8 more years, faggots.

>>383911198
I feel like the EU might actually block something like this.

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>>383911312

I live in a Jewish free country so I don't need to worry

>>383911016
Its giant corporations screaming about boogiemen to you while profiting off their own monopoly that ACTUALLY causes your internet to be more expensive.

NN gets removed and everything goes back to pre 2012 internet aka nothing happens.

>>383911331
They are, they give corporations the freedom to do whatever they like. Thank you free market

>>383911331
nice try shillary

ISPs are the ones pushing for anti net neutrality

People shilling for removing net neutrality on this website specifically are the biggest fucking retards.

>>383911340
Unironically kill yourself.

>>383911308
Unlike with climate change, old fucks all across the world think the internet needs to be made shitty. Look forward to it, dude.

>>383911256
It's even worse because those same entrenched ISPs lobbied for new regulations that make lying new line down almost impossible.

No one can even set up a consumer friendly alternative.

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>>383911016
Not at all because I'm not a burger
I can't believe they're having this discussion *now* but hey at least they'll make Australia look good

>>383911440
As is the guy that Trump put in charge of the FCC

>>383911415
Yeah, the price is the big issue here.

>>383911016
>purchase the high speed video package for only $50 / month to ensure you have the fastest internet to match your reflexes
>terms and conditions may apply, we have the right to cancel, modify, or overall fuck with your internet connection regardless of you paying us shekels

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Paid online comes to PC

>Google wanted to bring internet to my city
>Comcast sued them to stop it
>city council voted in some bullshit law preventing any new ISP's in the city

Someone get me the fuck out of Kansas

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>>383911392

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>>383911447
>libtards invading our board again

If they made internet a free globalwide service that was both unlimited and high speed, I'd gladly give up net neutrality.

But sadly, ISPs still feel the need to do pointless throttling for the sake of extra profits.

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>It's not my problem so I don't care!

And what will you do when it does become your problem?

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>>383911539
I like the way you think

>>383911415
There is LITERALLY no reason to remove NN unless you're looking to do something completely fucking devious. It's like asking for a repeal of food safety laws because "it's archaic and not needed, we all know how to look after food." The laws exist precesiely so that companies don't fuck people in the ass.

>>383911016
this wouldn't happen with communism

>>383911440
Why are all the Republicans voting against Net-Neutrality then?

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>>383911358
They already did.

https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/policies/open-internet-net-neutrality

>>383911610
>Animal Cracker

>>383911690
gg britbongs

>>383911340
Capitalism is bad you shithead. The government are the only ones that can stop the people being abused by the for-profit corporations. You'll wish you let the government help when the corporations shut down 4chan and any websites you enjoy.

>>383911663
Da comrade.
Now back to gulag.

>>383911123
This
I've already prepared my various servers to check for americans and ban them if they have a consistent ping above 100 for when the throttling begins.
>>383911447
He said, on a website that has always supported net neutrality because it wouldn't exist without it.

>>383911016

What is stardew valley? Is that one of those games full of fags and shit? I don't buy those kinds of games because it's full of fags and jews.

>>383911643
Twitter link?

>>383911610

Britbong here. Why can't Americans in the south get over the Civil War? I mean, you don't see the UK crying about the Revolutionary War or making monuments to General Cornwallis or other generals during the war

>>383911594
This is exactly why NN being repealed is terrible. It wouldn't matter if Comcast and Time Warner had actual competition, but in 99% of states they don't because they pay people off to ban other ISPs from entering their domain.

>>383911440
>>383911557
B T F O

>>383911756
>Capitalism is bad you shithead
Why the fuck can't you SJWs just get the fuck out of America already? You're ruining it for the rest of us.

>>383911016
The whole situation is fucked, and the consumer is going to get shitfucked regardless. Internet speeds aren't getting faster in locations without fiber.

>>383911123
wat happen if i am leaf

>>383911016

Okay I've been seeing this all around internet and have no clue what it's about.
Ofcourse the fastest method would be googling it, but where's the fun in that?

Can someone spoonfeed me on this entire net neutrality debacle?

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>>383911750
Brits will guaranteed remove these rules as soon as Brexit finishes. Their prime minister has already said dozens of times she wants to remove encryption.

>>383911750
Britbongs ISP space is so competitive that anyone who throttles sites will go out of business

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>>383911591
console has to pay THREE times now

i want to see the fanboys defend this
>WHAT ARE YOU
>POOR?

>>383911340
>Implying anyone on this godforsaken site think capitalism is good
The last anarchists escaped way before the Trumptrain.

>>383911594

See this is the problem. People want to fuck everything by bringing the feds in instead of unfucking their own cities. If a lack of net neutrality is a problem, it's only because the companies that would love to enter the ISP market legally cannot.

>>383911858

Buy some guns to shoot illegal American immigrants trying to cross into Canada

>>383911898
>she wants to remove encryption.

is she actually retarded?

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Guy's it's Trumps 4d Chess, we need to trust the God Emperor, he only wants whats best for America!

ITT and others like it: good goys who don't understand why net neutrality exists in the first place

http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=Why+was+net+neutrality+created

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>>383911447
Oh no the internet will be like it was in 2012 again, what a nightmare!

Rule number 9: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself

>>383911569
Big ISP's holding monopoly IS a problem but at the same time facebook and friends paying the same as nobody websites for clogging up the majority of the cables doesn't help

>>383911658
There are plenty of reasons to remove it, you'll just have to dig for them because they force amazon/google/facebook etc to pony up their fair share so theyll mess with search results.

Thing is repealing NN isn't the endpoint, it has to be part of a larger move to deregulate the internet and that includes removing regulatory barriers and red tape that stop small ISP's from growing

>>383911016
TLDR will this impact the rest of the world?

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>>383911331
Freedom is only important for rich people and corporations, anon. You should know that by now.
>mfw I live in a country where corporations are treated like people in law

>>383911937
WHAT ARE YOU

POOR?

>>383911807
You're not counting NI as part of the UK?

>>383911986
Yes. Did you see the election campaign she just fought.

>>383911898
>>383911750
The Conservatives are going to be blocking porn and keeping an eye on your browsing at all times so they know you're all behaving yourselves.
Another victory for Sargon and the Kekistanis!

>>383911843
What do you get from false flagging and being intentionally contrarian, even to things that would help you?

>>383911123
4chan servers are hosted in America. This affects you too nigger.

>>383911807
Losing the Civil War threw the South into an economic slump that it still hasn't fully recovered from. Some people are bitter about that. Mostly it's tards being proud of being retarded, though.

>>383911308
>pulling out of climate agreement = not believing in climate change
How slow are you anon?

>>383911663
China has worse internet than america.
Internet quality and political viewpoint are mostly unrelated.
The real binding factor is political corruption. Less corruption = more likely to have internet as a basic human requirement instead of a profit scheme for billionaires.

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>there are people actually defending getting rid of net neutrality
I want bootlicker scum to leave

>>383911986
>removes encryption
>emails dox'd
>panic
>repeal removal

>>383911986
Yes.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13423012
http://www.strawpoll.me/13423012
http://www.strawpoll.me/13423012
http://www.strawpoll.me/13423012
http://www.strawpoll.me/13423012
http://www.strawpoll.me/13423012

reminder that if you're against companies monopolizing the internet you're a filthy communist and should be publicly executed

>>383911921
Well, it's alright if you have the option of Virgin. It's not so good if you're in an area without their cables though.

>>383911016
if ur from murica expect to get throttled just so normies can watch youtube videos

https://www.polygon.com/2017/2/9/14548880/time-warner-lawsuit-new-york-league-of-legends-netflix

Net neutrality pretty much protects companies from doing this shit, but with it being removed enjoy your internet provider giving you less download/upload

Expect to get cucked

>>383911891
Net neutrality = everything on the internet is treated like the same, and your internet speed is the same no matter what content you're reading, watching or downloading.

No net neutrality = companies are allowed to throttle the speed on certain pages or services, such as visiting 4chan or watching Netflix.

>>383912013

May be a very possible scenario. A lot of American trends that the rest of the world sees as retarded somehow seep into our every day lives.
In America, they openly declare they are going to buttfuck you. Here in Yurope, they see the backlash it creates and will try to covertly demolish your anus while you cheer them on.

>>383911843
>muh sjw boogeyman
go back to /pol/.

Wanting to protect marginalized people from white supremacists and corporations is not "sjw"

>>383912181
This. It's capitalism, which is the best thing in the world.

>>383911986
Yes, Theresa is a complete fucking moron
>london housing market seen to be booming after woman buys house on downing street for 1 billion pounds

>>383912091
>President and majority party does not believe in climate change
>that government pulls out of climate agreement
What do you think the reasoning was?

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>mfw not americuck
>mfw free of Internet quota/fair usage
>mfw local govt doesn't give a fuck with the Internet
>there will be less americucks on the Internet
Based trump.

>>383911016
>You have exceeded your monthly online gaming allowance. You may continue to play at $10 p/h or alternatively upgrade to our Gamer+ PRO Deluxe Version DX for an extra $40 per month.
>You have exceeded your monthly download allowance of 10GB. Your download speed will be capped at 128 kbps. Alternatively you can purchase additional gigabytes of high speed download for $3 per GB.
>You will be connected to the Steam service at a limited rate. Alternatively you can use Comcast™ QuickDownload™ Game Service™ at your usual network speed.

It's gonna be fucked.

>>383912232
>Wanting to protect marginalized people
I can smell your reeking pussy from here, tumblrina

>>383912013
Probably not since it's a dead issue in other countries.

>>383911016
>monopalize
Dumb net neutralityfags as usual. You'll get faster speeds for vidya.

>>383912219

That seems like it should be illegal. It allows an ISP to control what sites get more traffic, meaning they can ask for direct money from those sites to make their traffic increase.

How is that even fucking legal?

>>383912013
None, great right?

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>>383912101
>There are people who wait for their megacorp masters at google and facebook to tell them what they want instead of researching whats actually going on for themselves

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>ruined radio
>ruined TV
>now trying to ruin the Internet too

>>383912291
So we can just laugh at America. Nice!

>>383912071
>implying it will not change to 4chan.ru

>>383911891
Net neutrality means the internet is like any other utility, like you pay for water and you can do whatever the fuck you want with it.

>all these communists ITT
Oh my god go back to re*dit you cucks. Removing NN is good for capitalism, the American way. Get the fuck out if you hate market competition

>>383911750
We have dozens of broadband providers within our tiny island.

>EE (Orange and TMobile)
>BT
>TalkTalk
>Virgin
>Plusnet
>Sky
>NowTV
>Vodafone
>SSE
>Post Office (That's right, the fucking postal service provides broadband)
>John Lewis Broadband
>Direct Save Telecom
>Hyperoptic
>Pop Telecom
>Relish
>Origin

This is all thanks to our Government backed Ofcom service, the entire goal of the company is to make sure every field in networking is competitive and we have choice. They also ensure you can leave your broadband contracts if the service is consistently poor or the provider raises prices more than once a year. If you even think about fucking your customer in the UK, it's an immediate lost sale.

Got a problem with capitalism, son? How very unpatriotic of you. Maybe you should go to one of those faggot socialist hellholes where they believe in baby shit like fairness.

>>383911237
>government subsidizes the shit out of like 3 companies to create infrastructure
>no other companies can compete because of this
>the free market is to blame for the government artificially creating monopolies

:^(

>>383912091
Trump doesn't believe in climate change and pulling out of the agreement was his action. 2+2=?

>>383912337
Lobbyists. Get active or get swept away in the current, because they won't be stopping any time soon.

>>383912262
in exchange, you go to jail for tweeting "hate speech"

>>383912101
>jews try to fuck the internet
>post a 'le angry jew' reaction image

>>383912337
Because right now those costs are passed to all customers instead of the big 10 that are using up most of the bandwidth

ISP's need to be deregulated as well so theres no mountains of red tape blocking new ones

>>383911986
They've been pushing a narrative of "terrorists use encryption to kill your kids so we'll ban it" for years now in the hopes that tech illiterate people will vote for them because they're scared.

>>383912463
>MUH JUDEO BOLSHEVISM
Kill yourself my man

BUT THE FREEEE MARKET
COOOOOMPETITION WILL FIIIIX IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>383912418

>most towns have one or two ISP's
>market competition

Wew

If this means there will be less Americans online then I back it 10000000%

It sounds like a fucking dream come true

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As if this thing will actually get repealed, people have been sending 100s of email and letter to congressman about how much they don't want this.

>MUH FREE MARKET, MUH FREE MARKET THOUGH
The free market actively encourages the creation of monopolies, and monopolies are shit
We need regulation to keep those faggot corporations in line

>>383912358
>He says while getting all his info from kikebart and any other pro-Trump website, e-celeb etc.

>>383912498
The current laws are very anti-free market

>>383912252
because its a bad deal for the US which trump explicitly explained

>>383912358
Nigger, everyone is giving very real reasons for not taking net neutrality away, no one needs google or facebook for that and yet even if people need to get their shit from them its better than being buttfucked by the ISPs you mouth breathing contrarian retard

>>383911016
>How's this net neutrality thing going to impact my vidya?

it isn't. what it is going to do is force google and friends to lose some profits since they have basically been leaching/pirating bandwidth for 20 years so they pretend INTERNET IS COMING TO STEAL YOUR VIDYA to get you to care about it.

>>383912513
It's called social Darwinism, except it's for companies. The strongest company wins. Deal with it you retarded nigger

>>383911756
>>>/venezuela/

>>383912358
>There are people in this thread who take sides with Verizon and AT&T desire to have more control over internet consumption due to a vague feeling that a conspiracy is afoot.

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>>383912181
>>383912246
>problem caused by goverment regulation
>so we need more regulation to solve it

>>383912287
Go live in somalia if you want to live in a capitalist society so bad. Oh wait you won't because there are people of color there right?
The US is only strong because the government has made it strong. Not the corporations.

>>383912535
ISPs have also been sending 100s of emails and letters to congressman (in your name!) about how much they LOVE the idea

>>383912425
There are only two sets of cables though, BT and Virgin.

You either get Virgin or you get BT. All those providers (other than Virgin) use BT's network.

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>>383912448

>amerilard thinks he has free speech

kek

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>>383912336

>>383911807
The south is full of lazy people who can't function without slaves, so they're always complaining about the political situation that fucked their entire lineage and forced them to work, while bragging about the glory days of when they could sit like the "lazy niggers" they complain about, on porches, getting drunk and being assholes, you know, like black people.
As a brit especially you should notice this, considering how british black people are mostly civil human beings while american ones learned from their slave owners that the height of society is getting drunk on their porch at high noon.

>>383912497
Stay frustrated, your ideology will never fly, let alone work.

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>>383912448
>using twitter
>using any social media at all

>>383911016
If they get rid of net neutrality, you're fucked.

If they don't, you're fine.

The problem with removing Net Neutrality is ISP have no competition because they all agree to stay out of each other's areas, so each ISP owns their own monopoly and there is no competing market for consumers to benefit from.

>>383912513
Its bait you retard. Hell, this whole thread is, including your post, so I guess im retarded as well.

America doesn't need Net neutrality, it needs mandatory local loop unbundling. Force the last mile open so if consumers don't like the practices of their provider they can get another one. There will always be at least one company willing to sell a dumb pipe even if they are no the cheapest. Then the market the repubs are so keen on really can decide.

>>383912418
>Most towns have two internet providers to chose from
>These companies literally act as a cartel dividing up areas in which one will sell internet slightly cheaper than the other.
>This is market competition

Really makes you think

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>>383912607
i
cant
even


what kinda shit you researching son? this is some tumblr level mental gymnastics

>>383912358
>i need muh stormfront and other racist sites to form my opinions

>>383912337
It isn't legal, it's very illegal, but it will be ok in a few months as part of making American great again.

>implying anything will change
America hasn't passed a law that actually affected anyone's daily life the civil rights movement.

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>>383912615

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>let's monopolize the Internet
>AT&T AND verizon

that's not how this is going to work, at the end of this all telecommunications and most media will be owned and operated by AT&T

sound familiar?

>>383912670
4chan is social media

>>383912631
Doesn't really matter, because specific companies are better at getting BT to move its lazy arse than others if something goes wrong.

Plusnet for example will fight tooth and nail to get your connection sorted if there's a problem. Best customer service I have ever had.

>>383912751
what about muh gay marriage

Have people who are against net neutrality just never bought internet access before?

>>383911016
>monopalize

>>383912246
>Capitalism means no competition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiuQhD27Cfc
Monopolies = totalitarianism, plain and simple.

>>383912545
Uh, sweetie? No. I'm a libertarian and you're wrong. [rips sweet ass vape tornado]

>>383912732
If it's a real issue the market will fix it. A new company would spring up. That's how economics works, retard

>>383912689
>have no competition because
Regulations prevent the market from working the way it should.

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THE LAND OF FREEDOM, everyone

>>383912768
>even your memes are stolen

Ah, to be young and leftist...

>>383912480
>Costs are passed to all costumers
Where have the cost of broadband been raised? If anything they're going down.

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>>383912358
>dumb rightcuck voting against his interests yet again
when will you fags learn

>>383911891
It basically means "you have used all your streaming/gaming internet availible for the month, upgrade your package to get more"

>>383912513
We have 1 in mine and it's fairly reliable most of the time, but when I was living farther up north to go to school it was only Time Warner and they buttfucked everyone in that town.

>>383912620
But this isn't a problem caused by government regulations.

Capitalism is god's will and no country could survive under any other system.

/thread

>>383912584
yeah, sadly none of the things he said were true.

>>383912615
They're doing fine given the forces trying to make them fail.

>>383912620
We won't get more regulation you braindead faggot, everything is already in place working as intended, the ISPs want to take it away

>>383912498

Free market and competition WOULD fix it.
However, there's no such thing as 'free market' in the American internet service providers.

You're fucked either way. NN or not the government or the companies are gonna fuck you over.

>>383912867
I have the FREEDOM to get fucked by overpriced, shitty internet. Europe BTFO no freedom at all

>>383912687
And the world still goes around.

>>383912358
>The retarded cuck doesn't realize the irony in insulting "megacroporations" like Google when he's siding with more devious megacorps like fucking Time Warner

>>383912907
This, basically
>BUT MUH SOCIAL ISSUES
Social issues are a fucking meme invented to keep you from voting for the people who are actually going to make your lives better

>>383911313
Anything bad /pol/ loves. Anything good /pol/ hates. Those fags don't know what to do.

>>383912607
>what it is going to do is force google and friends to lose some profits since they have basically been leaching/pirating bandwidth for 20 years
They'vve been paying what they need to pay the huge fucking bandwidth usage is from the people who pay ISP's for their internet acccess to use the bandwidth they paid for on whatever the fuck they want. You're getting screwed because the ISP's hae been promising more bandwidth to their customers than they can deliver.

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>>383912867
>TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT FOR AMERICA GUYS WE SWEAR

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>383912812
you're mum is a social media

>>383912958
>trying to use sky fairy shit to prove why the best system is the best and destroy any credibility
False flagging commie faggot.

>>383912689
Yeah I'm super sure that's going to change when comcast starts charging a 4000% markup on renting their fiber lines to competition because some dipshits removed regulations without even considering for a god damn second the far reaching repercussions for the sake of "MUH FUCKIN FREEDOM"

>>383912860

>option A is to get fucked in the mouth
>option B is to get fucked in the ass
>people divide up arguing whether it's better to get fucked in the mouth or ass instead of asking why they should get fucked at all

How about keeping net neutrality and removing obstacles to new ISP's?

>>383912010
2012 internet was pretty bad desu. I don't want to have to go back to having Gangam Style and bronies and rage comics shoved in my face constantly.

>"cmon boy, give up your rights... you're not a commie, are you?"
This is America right now.

>>383912972
Ayy, that image was made to prevent more liberals from killing themselves, wasn't it?

>>383912768
That's the most horrendous strawman ever

>>383912957
Then how about you and me creating a competing ISP in your town without discussing it with the government. Then you don't need to worry about NN.

>>383912958
>He said, voting for Trump
LOL

>>383912498
This is literally true
Theres nothing free about a market where govt has the power to dictate winners and losers which necessitates lobbyists

>>383912571
>>383912739
Yeah beat that strawman! everyone who disagrees is definitely a neonazi, all dissenting opinions from john oliver and his retard brigade must be rooted out!!!

>>383912590
And there are very valid reasons to remove it and also remove other things but even suggesting people research the facts instead of eating the fearmongering spoon of megacorporations seems to be asking too much

>>383912963
>le trump doesnt believe in climate change thats why
>no, he explained its just bad for the US
>nuh uh

ok dude. that must be why hes still open to entering the agreement if revisions are made.

>>383912545
>companies lobby government for regulations and laws that stifle competition
>the free market is to blame
>"we need more government to fix this mess they created"

lol

>>383913064
no u

>>383912957
>>383912979
The real problem is the monopoly of internet providing services, the bandaid solution is net neutrality.

>>383912336
If you pay $20 more a month :')

>>383911594
Thats the real problem. Not net neutrality its that the isp's need to be forced into actual free market competition.

>>383912425
It's down to LLU. BT (Openreach) own the network but they have to let customers choose their ISP (and got fucked hard for favoring BT retail). Choice works better than heavy regulation

>>383912620
I can't believe people this dumb visit this site. The government regulations are not the cause, you dumb fucking faggot, they are the consequences. The cause are the ISPs, local governments didn't just up the barriers to entry for the hell of it, they upped them because ISPs paid them. If we dig deeper, this is an issue of lobbyists in the US living at large with little to none regulation from the government.

>>383912545
>corporation literally own the government
>we need the government to protect us from corporations!

>>383913134
>conservatives
>banks, CEOs, celebrities, mainstream media dictates all my beliefs

What country is this refering to? Certainly not USA.

>>383912632
ok, and you would go to PRISON because the government determined you were thinking incorrectly.

>>383912815
What sort of speeds do you get with them? I don't think I could ever leave Virgin now despite it being the most expensive option.

>>383913080
>removing obstacles to new ISP's?

>ISP's flood emails with false john does to congressmen
>nothing happens
>still no market

NN would be dead if Google was an ISP
we live and die by their hands

>>383913181

This. I've heard enough horror stories of you Murricans surrounding Comcast and the like. I'd be fucking livid if I could choose out of only 3 providers.

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>>383913146
Huh.

>>383912979
Yeah man remember those dark days when there was no net neutrality? man, they were teribble

>>383913125
>And there are very valid reasons to remove it

The only valid reason is to force people to pay more for a service that has thrived on being free and open since its inception.

You know what this issue is similar too? Bethesda trying to push paid mods.

You didn't defend paid mods did you?

>>383913021
This. Google wanted to put in fiber optic everywhere but the corporations stopped them with lawsuits.

The government is the lesser evil here. Prove me wrong. Every single thing you accuse them of doing, Comcast and Verizon would do 1000 times worse.

>>383911016
Can someone give me a tl;dr? I haven't been following this.

Imagine if internet providers had to compete for customers the same way cell phone providers do.

Imagine if cell phone providers used the ISP model and each company refused to build cell towers in competing areas and just charge whatever they wanted.

>>383913336
>a tweet is a more binding contract than a formal statement as the leader of the free world

its sad that you can vote

>>383913354
Net Neutrality has been an unwritten law for decades. It was only in the past few years that the FCC had the balls to put it into law for real.

>>383913336
THATS FAKE NEWS YOU FUCK

YOU JUST COMMITTED FAKE NEWS

MODS MODS

>>383912358
>There are people who side with whatever /pol/ says rather than doing their own research

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>>383913336

What kind of mental gymnastics do you need to do to defend this madness?

>>383913447
A tweet shows real beliefs, statements are prettied up by a staff of pr people to make it less ridiculous

>>383913362
>internet has had NN since it's inception

Get a load of this guy.

>>383913404

I don't know, the whole $1 trillion wasted on Iraq and $2 trillion wasted on a jet fighter that doesn't work instead of helping citizens is kindof shitty

https://youtu.be/sEcXRNDxBwM
It can effect gamers everywhere.

>>383911996
I do not trust people on any side of the Net Neutrality argument to do the right thing for the consumer. I would love our President to make a stance on this issue. He does't have to give us his strategy. I would just like to hear him acknowledging the problems of Censorship, ISP monopolies, and Privacy Issues on the Internet and tell us, "I hear your concerns and I take them seriously, trust me, I got your back."

>>383913394
>Fiber was installed in Austin
>They never went any farther South
>I'm just barely 100 miles from Austin
>Have to deal with Suddenlink instead

It's not fucking fair.

>>383913336
Is he actually retarded or just trusting that his followers are?

>>383913431
America is going to be made great again and all the little SJW cucks are crying over nothing as usual

>>383913431
your ISP wants to charge you more money for browsing the internet and internet companies realize that thats bad for their business

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>>383913290
I changed to EE a few months ago, but Plusnet was getting the exact same speeds as this. This is my area cap as I'm on a fiber to copper cabinet.

"keep the internet as free as it can be" ....by letting the government regulate it.

>>383913371
Egyptians didn't own their own farms or even the seeds they planted- they even needed to ask for the crown's permission to leave their farmstead. your image is stupid and wrong.

>>383913261
You literally spelled the problem out but can't put the pieces together, the real problem is the fact that politicians have the power to pass such regulations, if legislators didn't have this capability they wouldn't be bought.

>>383913521
That's still better than Comcast making several trillion dollar deals to keep competing ISPs out of their neighborhoods.

>>383912957
>>383913181
How is net neutrality in any way connected to new companies having a hard time in the US planting fiber? It's expensive as fuck and it being expensive is the biggest hindrance. Net neutrality does fuck all to address that. And taking it away won't change anything.

>>383913535
He has stated that he thinks Net Neutrality is terrible and he wants to get rid of it
Though maybe he was just shittalking it because obama liked it

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>>383913545

America will be great once all the old white boomers die off

>>383911016
Always knew this would happen. Either old nuts or soccor moms.

I'm not American but this fuck them over.

>>383911858
your internet's already fucked m8

>>383913536
>forced to use TWC even though I live in Austin because they have deals with all the complexes near here so they're the only ISP I can use
I fucking hate this shit.

>The same people complaining about the Jews running everything are the same ones saying it's okay to let the Jews run the internet with even less interference than they already did
Really gets my noggin joggin'.

>Country already has laws regarding net-neutrality since 2010.

I'm sorry for you, Ameribros and your weas

Imagine a world where a medical monitoring and emergency services company wants to pay extra to comcast so they can co-locate servers (buying real estate and placing physical, man-made metal boxes next to each other) and bring down latency for critical patient information like say - live heartbeat. Why shouldn't they be able to negotiate a higher guaranteed bandwidth? So that people can load gifs on Reddit or watch Netflix? Really? It already streams 4k!

Everything on the internet was built without these regulations. Everything scummy TV/phone/radio providers do was done under FCC regulations. Not to mention censorship of language, nudity, etc.

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Reminder that only retarded Millenals want net neutrality. The older generation remembers when we did this same song and dance for phone companies and got fucked in the ass
>Wow theres only 2 companies who sell phone services
>What if they start charging us more to call specific houses and areas!
>Lets have the federal government regulate phone companies as a utility!
Notice a similarity you retarded underage millennials?
Take a guess what happened next. Now your bill increased by 40% because the federal government put a big fat fee; NOT A TAX because you can vote for taxes and fight them in a court of law, and services went to shit.

If you want to combat Comcast and Verizon having a monopoly its not the cause of the federal government. Its state level agreements giving them exclusive rights to lay down cables and access to power poles.

Why surely you lazy niggers are going to your city hall and voting there to allow facebook and other small companies to lay down fiber right?
I mean you wouldn't be a bunch of lazy faggots whining about an issue on the internet and screaming that the federal government should charge you to fix absolutely nothing right?
>MUH NETFLIX

>>383913581
Because letting Comcast and Time Warner push their monopoly even harder and strap spikes to their dick that's railing your ass is any better.

Are you people even fucking AWARE of how bad these two companies are?

>>383913575
Eh, that's not horrible at all.

Fuck EE though, I had a mobile with them and it was nothing but problems.

>>383913581
"keep the internet as free as it can be" ....by allowing the few US ISP monopolies to to control the internet

>>383913618
same reason its illegal to build a car dealership "on another ones territory"

>>383913431
Netflix and Google want to continue jewing us and ISPs want to jew us in the other direction.

>>383913404
Americans will literally hand over their country to corporations now. They already voted in a crazy billionaire.

>>383913404
Corporations don't sanction coutries to starve children to death

>>383911973
>>383911594
>>383913224
Correct, at least there are a few here that can see the forest from the trees

Removing net neutrality is just one half, the regulatory state needs to be cut right back so big ISP's can't ban competition with bullshit red tape.

>>383913362
Do you know what NN actually is or when it went into law?
Are you even old enough to remember that there was an internet before 2012?

You're comparing apples to oranges, just one reason is that a handful of companies are responsible for the vast majority of internet traffic at this point and the costs that they would pay are passed onto internet consumers instead.

>>383913691
what?

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>>383911539

>>383913525
Don't care.
Any good games have dedicated server programs and ready to deploy in anywhere.

>>383913684
Are you even aware how many regulations are keeping new ISPs from wedging in to the market? The market that even google couldn't break in to?

Are you aware that if you think your service is bad you can stop buying it?

>>383913125
Admit it, if Obama tried to get rid of net neutrality you would hate it. But since it's Trump you can't bend over fast enough to let him fuck you without lube.

>>383913665
I had to use TWC when I lived in Waco. It was awful.

>>383913667
>muh strawman

>>383913506
regardless, even if trump felt that way at one point, his administration doesnt.

>>383911308
oh so you have absolutely no idea why we actually pulled out and are just listening to whining globalist cucks cool moving on.

>>383913764
>>Are you aware that if you think your service is bad you can stop buying it?
>He thinks the internet is a choice

>>383913701
They do overcharge people by several hundred million dollars, forcing them off life support and killing them on the spot, then forcing their families into NDA's.

>>383912584

It's not a fucking deal you inbred moron. It's basically saying; we care about the environment and will make efforts to better ourselves.
I'm fairly sure that there's nothing in the Paris Accords which directly allow other nations to sanction you if you don't put in enough effort.

Trump backing out is literally saying to the rest of the world; We don't care about pollution. Fuck off.

And that's why the world is pissed of at America. You're being selfish as fuck, doing shit that impacts the entire world, but refuse to take responsibility for it. It's just an arrogant move from an arrogant president.

But ofcourse Yurop will just be 'very cross >:(' with America and not do anything about it, because we're giant pussies. God I hate politics.

>>383913764
>Are you aware that if you think your service is bad you can stop buying it?

That'd be great, but there is no one else in most towns to switch to.

>>383913690
No one is controlling the internet except the government. Go ahead and start your own ISP, even if you have the capital single-seller systems will make it impossible for you to get ahead.

>>383913431
Every website you love will be blocked/deleted/require you to pay more to access if these regulations get removed by the republishits.

>>383913764
>Are you even aware how many regulations are keeping new ISPs from wedging in to the market? The market that even google couldn't break in to?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT ARE YOU SERIOUS?

IT'S COMCAST AND TIME WARNER THAT ARE STOPPING NEW IPS FROM EMERGING YOU CHUCKLEFUCK. THEY REPEATEDLY SUED AND STOMPED ON GOOGLE'S ATTEMPTS TO GET INTO THE MARKET. IT WASN'T THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT, IT WAS CORPORATIONS, THE ONES YOU'RE SIDING WITH YOU
FUCKING
RETARDED
CUNT

>>383913615
Making deals with who? The fairy godmother?

>>383913778
Obama is a dumb nigger who is probably Kenyan. Trump is trying to save America. So yes, I do trust him. I believe in Trump.

>>383913746
in the us ISPs collude to make territory for themselves so they don't have to compete.
It's why you only have like 1 or 2 choices for an internet provider wherever you live in america.
axing NN wouldn't solve this, it would just make matters worse.

>>383912358
>Willingly surrenders his rights so he can proudly get assfucked by asshole corporations
Spoken like a cuck.

>>383913701
Pretty sure they do. I mean, you know the governments of shithole countries are horribly corrupt, who do you think pays the bribes?

>>383912010
Boy I sure do want the only way to get non-third world Internet speeds here to go away because durrrrrr regulation bad.

Fuck off you giant faggot.

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>>383913806

>his administration doesn't

uh

>>383913764
and go to what? in my parish there's an exclusivity deal and i cant choose shit fuck you

>>383913778
Obama brought IN net neutrality along with an expanded regulatory state, i absolutely would despise it if trump did the same and thankfully hes not.

>>383913806

Your president literally believes that climate change is a Chinese hoax created to specifically fuck over the USA.

Think about that for a second. That man is leading your country.

>>383913881
>4chan will be deleted
Can't fucking wait

>>383913841
The internet is a scare resource with a government instituted monopoly guarding it.

>>383913875

Right. This is what I'm trying to explain. There is no competition not because Comcast bought it all there is no competition because regulations make it impossible for newer ISPs to break in.

>I hope this means less Americans will be online

THATS NOT HOW ITS WORKS YOU FUCKING RETARDS lol

Do you really think 4chan will be one of the blocked sites? Wrong it will be sites with torrents and streaming sites. I swear some of you people are literally retarded.

>>383913764
>Just stop buying it even though it's literally the only place in your region that offers it since they strong-armed everyone else away!
Cool, great advice you fucking retard.

>>383913894
You can't sue someone you don't have a contract with unless they broke a government regulation.

>>383913806
>what is scott pruitt

>>383913862
>overcharging for internet service literally kills people
no it doesn't

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>>383913904

>>383913879
>doesn't know about the the monopolies
are you not american?
they have lobbied specifically to make it impossible for others to do just that.
Remember how google spent billions trying to do it and were blocked on all fronts?

>>383913879
State level not federal.
Show me a list of federal restrictions on you starting your own ISP.
Now look up how facebook has spent the last 10 years trying to put fiber in NY city but its been impossible due to the mayor getting millions from comcast to block them.

>>383913894
They went through the government to do that.

>>383913513
>>383913734
NN has been a soft law since the mid 90s. There is no reason for its removal.

>>383913521
All that money went to corporations. It's corporations that manipulate the government. These net neutrality laws are a step in the right direction.

The EFF and ESA both support net neutrality. The consumer and corporate interests in gaming.

>>383912643
>considering how british black people are mostly civil human beings while american ones learned from their slave owners that the height of society is getting drunk on their porch at high noon.

kek maybe at one point, black american culture has flooded here so now they believe they were all slaves held down by the white men and blm and that uk police go round shooting blacks, so they listen to rap and rape and kill just like their mentors in the us

>>383913806
His administration removed any mention of climate change from executive branch website on day one.

>>383914030
Hahaha what?

>>383913990
>Tweets are the word of god

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>>383913806
For someone that doesn't think CC is a hoax, he sure posted about it being just that a lot.

>>383914030
YES YOU CAN YOU DENSE MOTHER FUCKER

>>383913894
Calm your tits autismo. They used goverment mandates to shut them down which was my whole point so thanks for proving me right.

>>383914039
EA and Comcast would argue otherwise.

>>383913014
Spoken like a pajeet.

>>383914003

You know you could just leave and go back to your precious Reddit at any time, right? We'd be happy to get rid of you.

>>383914058
Don't you have a cuck shed to be attending to?

>>383914075
Removing NN doesn't stop them from doing that. In fact they will continue to keep doing it and now they can ass fuck you with capped speeds unless you pay more.

Well done champ.

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>>383913894
>shitty laws created by govt is not the govt's fault

>>383914015
>torrents
Don't they hosted somewhere in yurop?

>>383914015
Honestly Netflix and Twitch are the only ones who would get "fucked".

Netflix has enough money they can pay Time Warner to fuck off, Twitch would be fucked. but nothing stopping them from making 20 twitch offshoots to the point where Time Warner cant block them all

>>383914015
Fuck off SJW. You're just going to have to start paying for your faggot RuPaul shows from now on. Get a job.

The amount of mouthbreathing retards in this thread that don't understand why their internet is crap or why NN makes it worse is disgusting

Actually making the case for monarchy or dictatorship because the people are too stupid to know what they need

>>383914030
If I broke my leg on your property even as a thief I could sue you and Id win.

>>383914139

They are the words of your president. Or are his retarded tweets also made by the evil liberals to try and defame him?

How are you intelligent enough to even breathe?

comcast has always given me cheap and good service, idk why everyone hates them so much

>>383914181
>>383914154
>All mandates are the same!!

Literally retarded.
See
>>383914175

>>383914170
>reddit spacer talks about reddit

>ITT: fucking bootlicker scum

>>383913864
lol it most certainly is a deal. why do you think poor countries signed into it so readily.

>>383911340
You fucking idiot, net neutrality is something everyone on the internet supports with the exception of the jews at the ISPs.

You are either trolling or fucking retarded.

>>383913764
They have a monopoly on the areas they control

Removing net neutrality will give them even more power then they already have. The government should be fucking breaking up their huge areas of iron-fisted monopoly they have now instead of handing our asses to them on a silver platter.

>>383914208
I agree. TRUMP FOR EMPEROR. MAKE AMERICA GREAT FOREVER

>>383914015
And gaming services.

>>383914208
It is either net neutrality or regulation to force competition.

>>383914208
>EVERYONE IS SO FUCKING STUPID BUT I WON'T SAY WHY (BECAUSE I HAVE NO ARGUMENT) TEE HEE
Every fucking thread, one of you faggots.

>>383914181
that's exactly what's happening now.
they're using the govt again to take away the last regulations keeping them from having total control

>>383914276
>muh reddit spacing meme
kill self

>>383914208
8 years faggot
MAGA

>>383914030

I could sue you for looking at me wrong

>>383911016
Why does /pol/ want to remove net neutrality?

>>383913990
>Your president literally believes that climate change is a Chinese hoax created to specifically fuck over the USA.
Of course, and the $300+ billion that the chinese invest in green energy are only there for the long con, to make those weak of mind doubt the glorious god emperor trump.

>>383914208
>monarchy
I'm in.

>>383914134
Fantastic argument. What did Comcast sue Google for, then? Either Google broke a regulation or a regulation was created with the judge's ruling.

>>383914360
because their president wants to remove net neutrality

>>383914208
Net neutrality doesn't make my Internet worse at all you fucking retard, it's the only thing that allows me to have acceptable internet because it stops my carrier from fucking banning me for tethering because the internet here is LITERALLY middle of fucking Africa .6 Mbps 3000 ping bad.

>>383912436
Thank you

>>383914360
Their idol wants to get rid of it so they agree with him

>>383914283
t. triggered tumblrina
Time to get a job sweetie

>>383914276

>a single line of text
>reddit spacing
So this is what newfaggotry looks like. I almost forgot. Thanks for reminding me.

>>383914343
He's arguing against it you retarded faggot. /pol/ everyone.

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>yankies will be banned from the internet before aussies

>>383914307
Are you retarded? Net Neutrality would give them utility status and give them MORE power. Theres a reason why Comcast and Verizon both have said they are in favor of NN passing.

>>383914360
REGULATIONS = COMMUNISM

>>383914360
They're retarded and full of right wing redditors.

>>383914258
I dont know, i believe his words as president more than some tweets.

>>383911016
>monopolies
>conspiring against the market

This is what happens when you only read parts of the Wealth of Nations.

>>383914360
Because liberals support net neutrality so they feel oblidged to oppose it no matter what

>>383914378
people have differing opinions than the majority? oh noes!

What are you poor? Just buy gaming internet

>>383914419
It literally does not, read the fucking law

>>383912796
Ah the good old days of Ma Bell.

>>383914449
Look back at the archive, friend ;^-)

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>omg NN won't stop the monopolies we don't need NN we just need to remove government mandates letting them monopolize
Well, how about keeping NN in the meantime so they can't fuck us even hard, repealing all the government intervention that let's them fuck over any new ISP trying to start up, THEN removing NN since it won't be needed anymore?

Nah, fuck that. Let's just make things much much worse because they're totally going to listen to people asking for government-mandated monopolies be snubbed out while they start fucking us with universal data caps and throttled services.

>>383914254
Yes, if the reason you broke your leg was because I violated a government regulation. You can't just walk on to my property, take a tirejack to your leg, and successfully sue me unless the court itself is corrupt.

Should not the ISPs be regulated like a utility?

>>383914498
He WROTE the fucking tweet.

>>383914396
To tie them up with so much time and money wasting bullshit lawsuits that their effort to break into fiber stops being profitable. It's almost fucking impossible to get nailed for malicious prosecution when you're that big.

>>383914184
Yes but why would that matter when they block people from going there?

>>383914191
Correct

>>383914193
You can get freeform for free on your phone silly

>>383914312
Also correct

Americans aren't going anywhere is all im saying

>>383912251
>muh dup
it's called negotiation corbo

>>383914139
>give a guy almost all the power
>guy says that he alone should be listened to
>dont get anxious when most things he says are deranged and stupid
good for you.

>>383914472
utilities can be deregulated though (power in tx and cali

>>383914360
Because ISP monopoly is an issue of states being (((gifted))) millions of dollars from ISPs to keep other companies from laying down lines.

NN does nothing to stop that.

videogames

I honestly don't understand capitalists. I'm not sure if one has ever truly thought critically about capitalism or their own beliefs. I wonder how much of it is just left overs from cold war era propoganda.

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>>383914519

>>383914498
> his tweets don't count because I said so
Wew lad, this some interesting mental gymnastics