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>32 days until Mania
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You do realize these games are already released right? Why would you pay to play one level from each genesis sonic game?
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>>383898505
Did you come up with that one all by yourself?
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>>383898641
Yes now answer the question
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>>383898754
>You do realize these games are already released right?
Sonic Mania is not out yet.

>Why would you pay to play one level from each genesis sonic game?
Why would anybody ever want to play sequels, spin-offs, or games even remotely similar? I guess if you've already played Katamari Damacy there's no reason to play We Love Katamari.
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>>383898754
Because, even today, they are still worth it
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>>383898375
>tfw Megamix is dead
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>>383898505
>Why would you pay to play a fantastic game?
Go be a retard somewhere else.
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>>383899153
I wonder if Stealth can continue working on it since he's an official dev now.
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>there are people who died waiting for a game like this
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>>383898375
gonna buy this on Switch
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>>383899647
He already said that he'll polish up the parts that ARE done and release it to the public along with the source code. He said he'll do it in his spare time on his own after he's done with Mania.
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>>383899648
Press F to pay the respects to the fallen ones
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Will Iizuka ever recover?
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>>383900029
No.
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Does anyone else get kind of sad whenever they play the Sonic World segment in Sonic Jam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Q8IsHZpCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs-iBAeNZKk

I realize it has less than stellar gameplay and wonky camera work. This isn't really about the gameplay, but rather the feeling I get when I play it. It almost feels like peering into a different timeline.

On that note, it's also hard to imagine what the franchise would be like now had the transition to 3D gone more smoothly than it did.
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>>383900029
The real question is will he ever retire?

Would his replacement be better or worse? Or would they just be Iizuka 2.0? Really makes you think.
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>>383900113
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>>383900286
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW

But yeah, that was both awesome and pretty saddening to see. I really wish we had more beta SA1 stuff, because it's development is endlessly fascinating to me.
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>>383900113
>>383900286
>>383900564
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This wait is fucking killing me.
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>>383900753
I like how SA1 was so rushed they didn't even have time to remove all traces of the Sonic Jam-esque models. (And all the beta levels that appear in the Instructions sections for characters.) That always confused me as a kid.
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We'll be getting some neat behind the scenes stuff real soon:

https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-mania-behind-the-scenes-panel-at-comic-con/
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>>383901056
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For as many dumb decisions that Izuka makes I'm happy about his suggestion for Mania. But I still want those 1 and 2 remakes on consoles and PC.
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>>383901156
Yep, that'd be it of course. What's funny is that there's three different versions of Sonic's SA1 model in this one picture.

There's the new SADX Sonic and Tails model in game, then the Dreamcast SA1 models for the race head icons, and then finally the old Sonic model from beta SA1 front and center. Gotta love it.
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>>383901621
Pretty sure Taxman said they'd happen eventually. It's probably going to be sooner rather than later.
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>>383902041
>it's a surprise release on the same day as Mania
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>>383901816
Dream cast versions of sky chase use his sonic jam model iirc
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Let's get some fucking tunes in here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW7bunHrdLQ
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>>383902573
>finally start uploading tracks on the official channel
>it's fucking Studiopolis act 1 AGAIN
They say they'll release new stuff "soon" but soon better fucking mean next week at the latest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWyZmFSep0&t=0s
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>>383902486
Yeah, I had already mentioned that earlier in the thread. They removed it for the SADX version, though I suspect that was less to do with maintaining continuity and more to do with the fact that all the models had to be replaced anyway. Not to mention all the other older SA1 beta stuff is still in the game like >>383901156 with the mission pictures. Very lazy.
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>we'll never get mini-series with this cute animation style
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>>383902830

honestly I'd rather just listen to studiopolis for the next month since A) that shit is bangin, and B) I'd rather they slam the brakes on the hype train and let me discover some shit for myself than floor it and spoil literally everything. I hate that I know about the boss in green hill, for instance.
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>>383903119
Never say never. Look at what Pagoda West used to do before starting their own studio.
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>>383902840
Oh, and to add to that: Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles all have their SA1 models in their jumping animations. Which aren't that noticable unless you look for them, but other characters still have their old models too in some cutscenes and they're kind of in your face and hard not to notice if you've played the DC version. Just the bare minimum face lift for that port. Thank god for BetterSADX.
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>>383903208
>B) I'd rather they slam the brakes on the hype train and let me discover some shit for myself than floor it and spoil literally everything. I hate that I know about the boss in green hill, for instance.
Same. I wonder if they were pissed that a journo also flippantly revealed a closed door boss.
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>>383903208
>honestly I'd rather just listen to studiopolis for the next month
I've been listening to Studiopolis for the past YEAR. Give me something that hasn't at least been ripped yet.
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>>383903208
>I hate that I know about the boss in green hill, for instance.
Do you know about the Chemical Plant boss?
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I just hope there's an option to turn off Super Sonic music. Even if it's kickin' rad, sometimes I just want to keep listening to the other kickin' rad music tracks while being Super, you know? I always loved Sonic 3 Complete for this, especially since the Super music is very irritating after five seconds.
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>>383900286
Why does Sonic never operate his own plane? No wonder casuals think it belongs to Tails.
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>>383898375
>waited 23 years for this
>still have to wait for a full month

It's killing me.
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>>383904186
Who did Cyanic kill?
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>>383904319

Archie
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>>383904051
>never played as Tails or Knuckles
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>>383903954
You mean the invincibility theme? Yeah, those were not meant to be played on a continuous loop. I like how S3K has a longer tune for it from that PC version made specifically for the super form.
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>>383904051
He does sometimes.

https://youtu.be/RtyQZoqUcek?t=1m
https://youtu.be/ZYjnxvxTAyc?t=1m40s
https://youtu.be/bwds2AzKWHc?t=1m22s

If I had a bitch boy to fly my plane while I look cool as shit riding on top, I probably would too.
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>>383902573

>they won't touch the MS/GG games

Fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIPv9DycWs
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Just give us the game already.
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series based on this animation WHEN
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>>383904726
No, you'll wait a month and you'll like it.
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>>383904594
holy shit muh dick I love this kind of thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeercHQIEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnM2MHHd9zM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbygcFhV784
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>>383903954
I didn't mind it in 2 because the tune was my jam, and longer than an 8 second loop.
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>>383904872
That reminds me, have we seen any trailer using that animation yet?
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>>383905073
No, that's from a leak from a few months ago.
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>>383904994
Yeah, but I kinda like being able to still listen to the Zone's music too. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it would be neat if they include that option.

Speaking of options, what other options do you guys hope Mania will have? Unlockables?
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>>383898375
The final month of waiting is going to be painful.

I hope there ISN'T a big new zone reveal at SDCC. I'd be cool with revealing the Sonic 3 zone at most, but I want to be surprised.
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>>383905438
[/spoiler]I know this won't happen, but Mario Odyssey planted the idea. I want to have unlock able clothing, but not too jarring and out of place. Go to a casino like level, Sonic gets a top hat or a cute little red bowtie. Go to a winter stage Tails get a little scarf. Knuckles gets a beanie, etcetc.
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Daily reminder that in yesterdays thread a supposed Mania person working on the game said we'll get a clean rip of Green Hill zone 2 and a mini boss theme on the seventh.
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>>383905707
That was probably bullshit.
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>>383905438
Playable Amy (with a new suped up sprite based on her CD design) would be godlike
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>>383905638
That'd be neat, but yeah Iizuka would throw an autistic shitfit and flip a table if they tried that. Also protip: highlight text and Ctrl + S to auto-tag a spoiler.

Personally I'd like to see Zone specific idle animations, like in Ristar. Shit was cute as fuck. But I know that probably would take a lot of extra effort.
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>>383905638

give sonic his favorite outfit from the OVA
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>>383904873
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IT'S SO FUCKING FAR AWAY I CAN'T TAKE IT
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>>383906328
You know what to do, anon.
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So how they're gonna fuck this up?
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>>383905595
>waiting in Sonic

Literally the worst.
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>>383906439
They won't.
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>>383906328

ITS DRIVING ME INSANE
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>>383906439
The game will be perfect, but I know the fuck is will come. The trick of this fuck up, is this

the game, will be as I said, amazing. The fuck up comes when Sega realise how great it sold, izuka goes jelly mad, and he takes creative control of the sequel

that will be this fuck up.
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>>383906439
Only thing I could see is it being too short, but I doubt that'll be an issue since it'll at least have more zones than Sonic 2. Dunno if the statement of it having the most zones applies to combined Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
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>>383904594
>Chaos emeralds
>The Chaotix
>Collision Chaos
>SA1 final boss' name is Chaos
>Those little blue fairies are called Chao
>Sonic Chaos
Why is Sonic Team so obsessed for this word?
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>>383906596
YOU COULD SAY I'M A BIT MANIC
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>>383906530
>this looks so good
>still a month away
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>>383906685
Because it was the 90's and it sounded radical at the time. By Sonic Adventure it was just a series staple at that point.
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>>383906685
Original title is Sonic & Tails, they just got lazy.
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>>383906665
The wording seems to imply that yes, they are also referring to 3&K as one game.
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Ummm....... What if.......
is it possible that new sonic suck not because game itself but because gamer brain have high dopamine addict already from previous sonic game/ characters until it's can't higher anymore ?.......

just curious...
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Daily reminder that no matter what they said, one level of this game will be a Knuckles Chatoix level, including the ring rope attachment gimmick, expect it. If you know that OTHER thng they're doing, then you know this will have that.
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>>383906909
I sneezed, then opened this image. I swear to god. Mindblown right now.
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Me right now.
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>Sonic Forces Classic Sonic can drop dash

DAILY. REMINDER. That the end of this game will somehow involve portals and connect to Forces, you heard it here first. That will be the fuck up of this game, god fucking DAMNIT IZUKA.
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>>383907029
OMG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity

y.. you too ?
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>>383907247
But you'll have already played the entire game and enjoyed the adventure. It may be an uncertain future, but at least you had fun when you did.
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>>383907247
did u rike it?
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>>383907247
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>>383907326
I've never wanted to dress up as Sonic more, and attempt a IRL spindash into somebody wearing nothing but explosives. I hate this man.
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>>383906824
I'm pretty sure it was Iizuka's idea
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>>383906950
>Daily reminder that no matter what they said, one level of this game will be a Knuckles Chatoix level
And it'll be the special stages. Because they were awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v_3ZzYpgH4
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>>383907247
>Mania selling gangbusters
>a squeal is announced
>but it's developed by Sonic Team
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>get to final boss
>game is hype as fuck
>yfw
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>>383907456
Blame Naka for letting him run wild all over SA1's development. The multiple playable character idea? All Iizuka. Read up, it's very insightful.

http://info.sonicretro.org/Game_Development:Sonic_Adventure
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>>383907456
But he's why Mania is happening.
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>>383907612
Ladies and gents, I can fucking assure you, something like this will happen. We all joke about it, but I can just FEEL Sonic team doing something like this, as if Mania is too pure for our timeline.
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>>383906743
post the one that used to be in those old sound threads
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>>383907658
*multiple playstyles

I mean. I suck dicks.
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>>383907632
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>>383898375
Cool. Lets have a countdown four times a day every day until it comes out so everyone is sick of the game before it even releases.
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>>383907659
Not really, see: >>383901621
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>>383907612
fuck it, lets go full worst timeline

>Mania selling gangbusters
>a sequel is announced
>but it's developed by Sonic Team
>all assets from Mania are stolen and abused, used, Whitehead and co put on the sideline, barely there
>[/spoiler]Dimps are developing it
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>>383907632
I wouldn't be that torn up, I'd like it to connect to modern stuff while retaining the retro setting. In fact people have speculated the story leading directly into Forces already.
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>>383907659
He merely okayed the idea. But he's going to take credit for it anyway in all the interviews. Always take everything that man says with a grain of salt.
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>>383907869
Some people have been waiting there entire fucking life for this game anon, 20 years+

Anons have DIED waiting for it, I have a feeling I won't make it. It's at the final month, and people are beyond hype, ignore the thread and move on, but some of us just want to revel that this game by some twisted fucked up fate exists and will be playable very soon.

Don't be fucking -that- guy. Just let us have our fun.
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>>383906328
hang in there!
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>>383908029
No, last time they did this shit was with Generations. At the end when classic sonic did an attempt of homing attack. Clearly referencing to Sonic 4. Disgusting.
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>>383908407
>At the end when classic sonic did an attempt of homing attack
He was attempting a boost, which he saw Sonic do earlier to get the Chaos Emerald, retard.
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>>383908407
It was worse than a homing attack. It was the boost.
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>>383908485
He gets the homing attack ability post game though...
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>>383908485
>>383908509
Jesus, that is even worse
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>>383908536
You homing attack in a ball, not face forward.
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>>383907958
>being born in the fallen time line
feel sorry for those guys
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>>383908837
You don't boost for half a second and in the air either.
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>>383908969
You can boost in the air in Sonic Generations.
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>>383906530


Where the fuck does the waterfall come from ?
Why does it start out of nowhere ?
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>>383909427
>Where the fuck does the waterfall come from ?
From the foreground.
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>>383908029
>I'd like it to connect to modern stuff while retaining the retro setting. In fact people have speculated the story leading directly into Forces already.

That would be the ultimate betrayal
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>>383900014
F
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>Anybody else played pic related?
For some reason I can't find the gumball bonus stage, it's my favorite one, do you have to mess around with the options or something?
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>>383910173
This is the definitive version of S3K and the best and most fun way to play it too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ19n421nBc|

Daily reminder, Tails dies in the bad ending of Sonic 2 Game Gear. I want a ending like this in Mania.

2:20
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>>383904396
>does it in Tails non-canon ass playthrough
Lame
>>383904537
>third example
More like this please
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>>383910173
Widescreen hack when?
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>>383908029
Please no. I want none of that autistic Modern Sonic shit in Mania. Just have Sonic and co defeat Eggman and that be it.
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>>383910173
>For some reason I can't find the gumball bonus stage, it's my favorite one, do you have to mess around with the options or something?
You should be able to get into them easily by simply having 50 or more rings when hitting a checkpoint. I haven't played Sonic 3 Complete too much but I don't believe this was changed or anything.
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>>383910287
Agreed, but is the gumball stage there?
If it's not, no big deal but I can't seem to find it.
I also want to know since I want to introduce this version to casuals but I'm hoping it's the best version to show.
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>>383910538
Nobody cares
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/v/ I want you to post cool sonic webms and I want them NOW!
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>>383911072
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Does anyone have that image of the different comic artists drawing what comes to mind when they're given the word revolution
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>No physical copy
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>>383911072
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>>383911317
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https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/885901651076202497
Tails dies in Sonic Mania
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Why no love for the best Sonic character?
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>>383911668
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VynDxJWZ698
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>>383911668
I love Knuckles. Always been my favorite character, and I'm glad we get to play him again as a regular character for the first time since S&K
Chaotix had that ring gimmick that fucked him all up
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>>383909848
F
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>>383910943
Entered one with 80 rings. I get the glowing spheres. Is it just my version that's fucked?
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>>383911901
Well there was also Sonic Advance, that one was pretty okay.
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>>383912009

I feel like you can probably mess with the settings either in the main menu or when you're setting up the ROM to change stuff like which minigames will show up so maybe check that.
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>>383907720
fug I miss sound threads
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Sonic Mania does better than expected, Sonic Forces does not. Taxman and co get to make Sonic 4. Not Sonic Mania 2, but an honest to goodness Sonic the Hedgehog 4, title and all. All new zones, all new badniks, all new bosses, the works. It ignores everything after Sonic & Knuckles and picks up from there.
But here's the catch, they have to make a new character. What role could they give him to make him distinct? What kind of play style? What animal would he be?
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>>383912703
It's pretty much guaranteed since Sonic Mania already uses all the trump cards for classic zones. Most other stages are literal whos that aren't wort rehashing
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>>383912231
Okay, so I cleared my save, went in with 52 rings and the gumball stage appears. Thank god.
Thanks for your help, man.
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>>383912703
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>>383912703
They introduce a character who can dig underground to access areas that any terrain normally occupies. This way you can cram almost twice the amount of level design into any given stage. Otherwise they are basically the same as the others.
It can be Ray the Flying Squirrel.
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>>383912703
A tortoise. Shellman the Tortoise. Who wants to go fast like Sonic and the gang, but can't, so he slides around on his shell.
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>>383912703
A cute Pig girl. Piglette. She just runs fast because fuck it, shes a pig, fuck it ya know? Hedgehogs don't run fast, shes just a fucking fast pig, okay? but shes cute, and amy gets jealous
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>>383912703
You know who.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL85tEePWyQ

This gameplay really, really, really, really, really, really made me think. It really activated my almonds. It just overall, made me go, yeah, I'll think.

It'll still outsell Mania god fucking damn it OC creator.
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>>383913434
IZUKA: "LETS JUST MAKE ALL THE CHARACTERS TALK AT ONCE, THAT'LL BE FUN!"

What kind of drugs are they taking over at Sonic Team
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>>383913434
God I hate that music a lot.
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>>383911424
>gets spiked right up the ass
What did they mean by this?
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>>383913434
Doesn't Mario come out around the same time?
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>>383913434
MEGUHMAN MEGUHMAN
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>>383913434
Listening to this makes me feel like im in 2009 and watching a windows movie maker sonamy amv. Guess they wanted to fully capture the cringe.
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>>383914231
Probably.

Mario Odyssey and Sonic Mania are the two big cherries on top of the sundae that has been 2017 for platformers.
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>>383912703
Sonic 2 gave us a little buddy, Sonic CD gave us an evil doppelganger (and a young damsel in distress), Sonic 3 gave us a hotheaded friendly rival. Knuckles would be a hard act to follow.
I guess a thylacine. Like hedgehogs and echidnas, they are very unique animals that don't appear much in fiction.

Then again we do already have a character that seems like they could fill that place of a 4th major playable character. Maybe Fang can be made into a sort of playable anti-hero. Not friends with Sonic like Tails and Knuckles are, but more of a friend-or-foe type character with their own playable mode. He could ride his little hover car and use his gun to shoot badniks.
But if it has to be new, thylacine that can dash through the air in any direction kind of like Charmy Bee, but only once per jump. He can jump higher than Sonic but he's not as fast as Sonic, Tails, or Knuckles.
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>>383914482
Given that, it's possible kids will choose Mario over sonic around that time, giving a slight chance that maybe Mania will outsell Forces.

Alas, one can only hope.
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>>383898754
the game also has new levels, and the old levels aren't exact copies, they have new shit in them
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>>383913434
The amount of normalfags who like this piece of shit hurts me. Open your eyes people, it's terrible! Even Generations looks better.
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>>383913434
You idiots caused this with the constant comic wanking. You got exactly what you wanted.
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>>383909482
That's impossible.
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>>383914482
I know I'm getting Odyssey and not Forces, so maybe that will be the overall trend for people who play Switch at least
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>>383915953
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>post yfw if tee lopes remixes this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqvIfKSTwTI
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>>383915953
They fucking just did it retard.
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>>383904365
Thank god.
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>>383905073
No. I imagine we getting CD intro/outro animations.
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>>383913434
>It'll still outsell Mania

In the bizarro dimension.
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>>383916943
>implying it won't outsell mania
it will on the basis of having a physical high-budget release and marketing alone
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>>383917123
So Sonic Mania will outsell Forces, got it.
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>>383917303
holy shit it's being promoted on trains
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>>383917123
In pure number of copies sold, maybe?

Amount made vs. budget however, I'd put my money on mania simply because it's being better received by people who actually care and it didn't cost nearly as much to produce.
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>>383913434
>That j-pop tier shitty music
>Cheesy lyrics, as expected from a modern sonic game
>Side character can't stop talking
>Although it's a different character with weapons and shit, it still has the homing attack.
>Stupidly high amount of rings on screen
>Red rings aren't even hidden
>BURST
Dear lord, this game fits exactly in the sonic circle. The only good thing about this video is the animation sequence when that crab mecha falls.
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>>383917123
No one gives a shit about 3D Sonic anymore, no even with "high budget, marketing and physical release". If Super Mario 3D World couldn't save the Wii U with all that, you can be sure as hell that Forces will bomb like there's no tomorrow. The only hint of hope I can see for this thing is for Switch users to be desperate enough to go there even though it will be overshadowed by Mario Odyssey, a game only crazy hardcore gamers and Nintendo fanatics care about. So yeah, Forces is fucked.

Just look at that >>383913434 it's as fucking wrong as it could hope to be, who the hell will see that video and go "must buy!"?
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>>383913434
Is it wrong that I'm looking forward to both? I like 2D and 3D Sonic for different reasons.
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>>383913434
Why is the effects work in Forces so shit compared to Generations?

The boost effect, not present in this clip, looks like fucking cheap shit now while before it was great explosion of energy.

The Quick Step now lacks blur.
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>>383917589
Even that has sound quality problems. And talking about how a cutscene is the best on a game franchise purely based on its gameplay speaks for itself about the shit Sonic Team is producing.
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>>383918058
I do too, but Forces is looking like ass. Serious step down from Generations.
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>>383917589
>he thinks there is no purpose for all those rings
>Omochao will have another store
>you can also buy Fox and Echidna race for OC for a small amount of 99999999 rings each
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>>383915872
Is it being written by the comic writers?
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>>383908550
What's wrong with Boost?

It's pretty fun, lighten up anon.

Sonic Team also pretty clearly pretends Sonic 4 never existed, too.
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>>383918934
>Sonic Team also pretty clearly pretends Sonic 4 never existed, too.
I wonder how much they regret it.
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>>383918738
No it's the same writers from the last few games.
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>>383919076
Only Lego was well written.
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>>383907632
>>383908029
That'd be pretty cool actually. It's a possibility considering Classic has the drop dash in Forces.
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>>383918058
>I like 3D Sonic
Why the fuck are you looking at Forces then?
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>>383919076
>Get to Sonic CD part of game
>Death Egg Mk II appears through time and space with the Little Planet inside from Sonic 4 Episode 2
>Mania characters travel to the Past to undo the transformation, and thus undo Sonic 4
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Why does the trailer mention that Sonic has collected countless rings? I'm no advertiser, but doesn't every word count? Why did they emphasize collecting rings?
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>>383919367
That would require acknowledging that putrid shit.
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I literally CANNOT stop listening to the Studiopolis soundtrack.

I need help /v/
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>>383919559
They're iconic, tucking at nostalgic heartstrings etc.
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>>383919261
We've only seen one Modern stage and it's probably the one of or the the first stage in the game. It's being developed by the Generations team and Modern's stages were mostly 3D in that game. I'll judge it when it comes out.
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>>383919565
But that's why it's not on the elevator, its getting retconned.
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>>383919628
Listen to Tee's other music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dadFQDqRJxU
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>>383919761
https://soundcloud.com/teelopesmusic/emerald-hill-in-aosth
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>>383919565
>>383919757
is CD a retconned piece of shit too then? i like it
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@383920116
No (you) for (you).
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>>383920336
we got a new fag in this board. come back when you can triforce.
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>>383920336
what

i'm not baiting, i love sonic CD
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>mfw you all haven't even heard Studiopolis Act 2 yet

*knowing smile*
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>>383919691
Fun fact, neither the director or producer of Forces worked on Sonic Generations.
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>>383900113
>it's also hard to imagine what the franchise would be like now had the transition to 3D gone more smoothly than it did

It's not that hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5paaz16Nw20
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>>383920739
Langeposting in 5... 4... 3... 2...
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>>383920557
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>>383919565
Post yfw Mania retcons everything that happens after S3&K
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>>383921006
If Mania does tie into Forces, then Mania is from its own dimension where things after S3K happen differently.
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>>383899153
>accidentally click the yandex image search button
>find the source to that image
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>>383917303
those hand holds look like rings. it's perfect
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>>383920116
Nope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg
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>>383917303
Why the fuck are Japan getting all this amazing marketing when it's a known fact Japan doesn't like Sonic as much as we do? I suppose that is the point but...shouldn't we be getting giant sonics walking around and shit in trains? come on man!
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>>383919761
Very Nights like.
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>>383921597
Because unfortunately the United States is full of you-know-whats. That kind of marketing doesn't go so well in urban areas, and that kind of heavy, involved marketing in less populated rural and sub-urban areas usually isn't profitable. Japan is another story.
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>>383922968
>Because unfortunately the United States is full of you-know-whats.
They're not doing this anywhere outside Japan.
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>>383915068
Sonic Mania has a two month lead on Mario Odyssey, it'll be fine.
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>paying for a glorified ROM hack
>Christian Whitehead

No thanks. The tilesets are recycled straight out of Genesis ROMs and upscaled like shit. This is just going to be another half-assed digital cash-in.
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>>383923304
Read his post again.
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>Sonic Mania
It would make more sense call it "Sonic 4 and Knuckles".
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>>383923173
you know whos are all around the world except japan, duh
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>>383923393
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Redpill me on Sonic Team. Where did they go wrong? Were they ever good? Are they responsible for everything 3D?
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>>383923173
https://twitter.com/wyolaser/status/883169268627460096
They're doing it in Taiwan as well.
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>>383910538
The music is some of my favorite in the Gamegear games. Really stood out to me when I heard it and saw the image of Tails in the sky. Sonic 2 GG was also my first Sonic title.
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>>383920557
>mfw we haven't heard Mirage Saloon Act 1 either
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>>383910538
>sonic runs for the entire day
>still not fast enough escape the sadness of loss
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>>383923393
>Upscaled like shit
>They're literally the same pixels/dimensions as the original, just touched up/reshaded to look 32-bit
6/10 for making me reply.
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>>383907632
I'd rather Forces reference Mania than the other way round
One or two original Mania levels reimagined in 3D would be cool
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>>383923517
Sonic Team was never good
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>>383907632
I like the design of that big bad
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>>383923982
uh
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Would you?
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>>383924582
Depends if those are the Taxman ports of Sonic 1, 2, and CD or not.
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>>383924650
Should be pretty obvious to tell, come on man.
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>>383924582
Only if hd Taxman remakes of 1, 2 CD and 3K
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>>383920739
I'm not totally convinced that 3D sonic is solved until there's an actual level

It's a great concept as a freestyle/skate park game. No matter what he shits out it's going to be better than sonic team. But I could easily see this not making so much sense when you make a level and try to challenge the player.
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>>383924241
Not by Sonic Team. Sonic Team doesn't exist yet.
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>>383924582
I'm very worried about the state of those taxman ports and sonic 3+K's entire status/eligibility to be ported along with them.
For some reason Mania makes me think Sega said 'fuck them just mash it all into one game' and now I don't know if we'll ever get 1,2 off mobile and 3K at all.
Playing those mobile ports on this and they play like a dream though.
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>>383919628
Switch to mirage saloon

If you get stuck listening to that switch to studiopolis
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>>383924865
You're a fucking idiot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKO9zX_4x6k
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I get literal pains in my head just anticipating the release to the game.
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>>383920739
As far as aesthetic and atmosphere goes, Sonic Jam World did a much better job bringing golden age Sonic visuals to 3D. I'm sure he knows this by now, but Green Hill Zone's striped grass doesn't translate well to 3D, nor do the dancing flowers, at least not the way they were implemented. While it's important to keep things simple and clean, you need more detail than that. Too much empty space too, Sonic Jam World had the windmill things, floating platforms, trees, birds fluttering about.
It's also a bad idea to have water not be easy to see through in a Sonic game. If you can fall into it, you should be able to see what's in it. Even Sonic Jam World's little stream does this.
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>Romhac Maniautists
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>>383924981
The touchscreen controls work really well with them though.
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>>383919628
Listen to a different Studiopolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbSPUYlkIoI
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>>383924981
They just need to bite the bullet and make new songs for Carnival Night, Ice Cap and Launch Base. I don't care what the reason is, just make a new song if it's that big of a deal.
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>>383913434

>the boss theme is just the season 2 op of AoT

JUST
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>>383913434
>bland music with horrible lyrics and vocals
>DUDE LET'S HAVE EVERYONE TALK AT THE SAME TIME
>Wisp shit
>Green Hill again
>that fucking level design
>QTE boss
What the fuck is wrong with nu-Sonic Team?
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>>383925285
Nothing will ever replace a good dpad, especially screen obscuring controls.

>>383925319
Just use the shit PC songs and let console players suffer while we mod the originals back in on PC.
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>>383925284
See: >>383923501
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>>383923667
>Sonic 2 GG was also my first Sonic title

ANTLION RAPE
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>>383924865
Sonic Team was there from the beginning. They were established in 1988 as Sega's AM8 Division then latter changed the name to sonic team in 1991 after the first game
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Does anyone have the image of all of the stages from the classics? I need it for something.
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>Westerners make a better sonic game than the japs

what went wrong
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>we will never get an CD Sonic the hedgehog game Emi
>We will never get Chaotixâ„¢ featuring Knuckles the Echidna Welcome to the next level in 32x world characters in Sonic Mania
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>>383919628
>>383925296
Fuck, wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BdhL0hcElo
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>>383925319
Have Lopes remix them juuust enough to be legal. No more, no less.
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>>383925984 dat one be good dawg
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>>383923519
Lucky ducks
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>>383920116
CD isn't on there because its timeline placement is ambiguous.
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>>383920116
>>383926372
CD isn't on there because there are no "CD" buttons on elevators.
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>>383926372 I thought it was confirmed by Sega that it was before Sonic 2.
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>>383926502 But there are "M" and "K" buttons?
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>>383926715
Yes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYMenKEwpps&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJp5UN-oqk4
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>>383926859 You've got good taste in YouTubers
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>>383926859
Stop posting this over and over.
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>>383927009
>sonic 4 defense force
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>>383927104
No you retard.
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>>383926859
>When hating bad games feels better than playing good games
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>>383927009
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>>383927250
>Sonic 4 is cancer
Wow welcome to what 7 years ago?
Better make the same post every thread to remind everyone, repetition is always cool.
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>>383926859
Good videos, but I think everyone here already knows about them. Good to see Cybershell making Sonic videos again though.

>>383927104
Baffles me that people go to bat for that game.

>>383927250
Yeah, it's certainly....yeah.
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>>383927380
>tfw still no sonic 3 featuring knux tails playthrough
Fucking hack
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>>383927380
You'll never find anyone on /v/ unironically defending it.
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>>383927531
We actually had one a few threads back.
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Here's some music for everyone to listen to instead of bitching about everything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3faNGF_AV8
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>>383924582
I expanded on that a bit to sweeten the deal.
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>>383927709
Being a shitposting contrarian doesn't count, nor do people mockingly imitating Jim Sterling.
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>>383927380
Give me the sparknotes version of the sperging in your image
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>>383925839
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>>383927817
Get the Utopia Early Demo off there, it isn't even a game yet. It would even be more appropriate to go with something like AXSX.
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>>383900113
I really want a 3D Sonic done in Sonic Jam's style. Low-poly and everything. There's something so fucking charming about the Sonic World segment that you don't feel in any incarnation of 3D Sonic.
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>>383927817
Stop.
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I sympathize with the guy on the right here.
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>>383900014

F
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>>383928245
fuck off with this shit please
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>>383928308 Okay.
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>>383911409
I wonder how else you're supposed to get up there
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>>383920739
>Sonic CD jump sound effect
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>>383928582
I think its an electric shield only thing, if you lose it you just swim in the trash at the bottom of the screen
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>>383928582 You don't, you take a different path to the end.
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>>383898505
The worst part about this painfully uninformed post is that he was serious. Even the old levels have new parts to them.
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>>383928761
It's not the same sound, what are you on?
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>>383928245
>legitimately enjoy every form of Sonic because they all serve different functions and I enjoy them for different reasons
>every side of the community tells me to go fuck myself because only one version of Sonic is good and that version is whatever game they played when they were 10 was
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>>383913434
I like it, looks fun
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>>383928915
Yes it is
DMT
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daily reminder the Mania side isn't finished, anon gave up, gods speed, he did well making that purely from the old footage of youtube stuff we got from ages ago, hasn't even used the newer footage
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>>383928991
https://youtu.be/TrBqOsGTb-Q
It sounds pretty different.
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>>383913434
The level design and music could be a shit ton better, but it's not bad compared to Generations. The only thing they really need to fucking fix is the Classic Sonic physics, they can't fuck the physics up again right after Mania.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYW7-hNXZlM

>mfw I find out Sonic CD's cutscenes were animated by Toei fucking Animation
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>>383929446
>NA
>not toot toot sonic warrior
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>>383928920
>Played heroes as my first sonic game
>Hated it
>Played either 1 or CD some time after
>Now own a Genesis & SEGA CD with all of the sonic games
Also own nearly all of the other Sonic games in one form or another (Aside from Heroes, and ShTH), and am currently ecstatic for Mania, completely indifferent for Forces until they show something that's worth getting excited about.
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>>383929446
I believe it was said somewhere that Tyson Hesse was going to be animating cutscenes for Mania in the style of this (as seen in the preorder trailer) but I don't know where that came from so feel free to call me wrong and a retard.
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>>383929221
After comparing I have concluded that it's the same sound effect.
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>>383929697
https://youtu.be/JCSL7naH-8A
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>>383929849
Aren't CD animations for the intro and credits hinted at for mania?
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>>383929782
It was implied when that WIP animation was leaked on tumblr and the guy who leaked it was fired for doing so.
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>>383929849 Much better.
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>>383919367
Shit this is going to happen, how else is Sonic going to visit Stardust Speedway? this is the logical way to do it, Mania will retcon Sonic 4
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>>383929782
i can only hope it'll have a vocal opening/ending if that's true
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>>383929782
I hope so, even though I'm disappointed that the animation they put out for the pre-order trailer wasn't NEARLY as fluid as the original CD intro by Toei.

Looked more like the sharp animation of Pierrot's OVA.
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>>383916127
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>>383929849
Wow this sounds like shit compared to the US version. And I prefer most of the JP soundtrack.
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>>383918058
Nothing wrong with liking something, anon. It's a matter of which game will be more enjoyable. And I think a majority of fans know which one that will be.
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Will we actually see a Sonic fan game for the Saturn in a few years, anons?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFaLo6XWmWo
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>>383930269
Well they probably shat that out as quickly and cheaply as possible which is also probably why it's not in color. I'd be willing to bet they weren't given a good budget for marketing so they're saving the good animation for the game where it's important.
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>>383929849
Japanese soundtrack is superior, but Sonic Boom is better than Toot Toot Sonic Warrior.
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>>383930536
I wanna see a port of Mania to the Saturn, thus bringing the project full circle.
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What platform are you going to play it on?
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What is something that Mania could do that would make you upset? We're always talking about the greatness off it, but what is the one thing that will make you go oh fuck off Mania, you fucking cunt.

Me? ANY of metropolis badniks return, holy fuck they RUIN sonic 2, I never complete the game because of them, just so boring and shit.
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>people like sonic boom more than toot toot
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>>383930859
I've bought it on every platform.
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>>383930859
PC
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The special zones will be Sonic Xtreme, I'm calling it.
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>>383930879
Having Shadow in the game.

Thank God it most likely won't happen, but if he's in, the game can go fuck itself.
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>>383930679
The guys at Retro could probably do it, but I don't think they'd want to make an official game made by fellow members freely available.
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>>383930987
This
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>>383931086
got a horrific feeling Shadow might appear
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>>383930859
PC, I don't have any of the current gen consoles and I'm positive that the game will run well on my laptop.
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>>383909482

That's a bit weird from the players perspective. Does this imply that there are things like walls and other stuff to Sonic's side that the player doesn't see?

I just assumed the stages looked something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVnYsjt8yc
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>>383931219
if it can run CD it can probably run mania
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>>383930859
PC, of course. But I hope hackers find a way to homebrew the saturn and emulate Mania as its own port.
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>>383931008
What are the chances of Mania spawning a modding scene as big as Generations on PC? My PC is a toaster, but I have a feeling it'll be able to run Mania just fine.
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>>383930879
No super forms other than Super Sonic
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This fucking level design, holy fuck. The amount of people saying that these zones are rehashes have no idea what they're talking about. If every zone is like this, I want an entire Sonic1/2/3/ maniafied.
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>>383930859
I was debating whether to get it for PC or PS4 but ended up with PC just because I can jump on it in the middle of anything really easily.
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>>383931409
Hopefully large.
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>>383929849
>>383930472
>>383930615
toot toot > sonic boom >>> shit eternity
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>>383931125
It wouldn't be a overnight project, plus are there even any good Saturn emulators at the moment? And also if they were really worried about it they could make it so it breaks on emulator, so only people who own Saturns (And maybe people who own Diamond Edge 3D cards + the PC to support it.) can run it, IE crazy devoted SEGA fans that undoubtedly already own Mania in some form anyway.
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>>383931409
>>383931451

Taxman said the engine wasn't really built with modding support in mind, but that's never stopped anyone before, just made it more of a pain.
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>>383931465
Are you people memeing or something?

It's like saying Pokemon Getto Daze is better than the US Gotta Catch 'Em All.
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>>383931693
except its not like saying pokemon getto daze is better than the us gotta catch em all
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>>383919565
Even if Sonic 4 was good, it wouldn't be on the elevator considering this is a celebration of the classic games and not something from 2010. Not sure why everyone's so hung up on the elevator so much when CD isn't on their either

>b-but muh CD stage

Then you're implying even more that the elevator buttons have no relevance on the game's importance.

Face it, unless Mania outright contradicts Sonic 4, you're stuck with it.
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>>383931693
this comparison doesn't work
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>>383931961
Yes it does, autists preferring the Japanese version when the American version became a phenomenon among the fanbase
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>>383932182
just because it becomes a "phenomenon" it doesn't mean its better.
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>>383932320
.t shitty J Pop enthusiast
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>>383932182
except we are talking about two songs that only ever really appeared in what can be considered a relatively obscure sidegame to the main series and sonic boom is an american exclusive, with mega drive territories like europe getting the japanese song
and you're saying it's like an anime song that was localized in dozens of languages opposed to japanese original that hardly left asia
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>>383932182
I played CD with the US soundtrack first, and thought it was ok, but nothing special. Then I played it with the proper soundtrack and it makes the game miles better than whatever north america got landed with.
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>enter one of the 3 unseen levels in Mania for the first time
>look in the background
>NIGHTS is flying around doing loops in the air

I would suck alot of penis for this.
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>>383931418
>Taxman and Stealth put together a pack of classic games and the UI has a mode where you dock the cartridge into a Mania add on cart that loads remixed levels
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>>383932414
i don't even fucking like jpop you faggot, i just prefer the toot toot because i like the little rap thing in the beginning and the funny lyrics, its cute and fits the game perfectly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9h7SDC2Go

The boss theme is fucking amazing.

I do wonder if it's going to be used consistently throughout the game though. I could easily see the Hard Boiled Heavies having their own theme.
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>>383924582
>$60
If all of those games were given the Mania treatment, then sure.
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>>383932894
>still no clean rip of the boss theme
JUST UPLOAD IT ALREADY AARON
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>Tfw my most hyped game at this time of the year is a fucking Sonic game.

Jesus Christ Stadust Speedway better be good.
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>>383927917
Thanks, finished what I wanted to do, which is to expand it and check off what's unlikely to appear in Mania.
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>>383935541
nice
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>>383935541
Pisses me off we most likely won't get launch base. It's hands down one of my favourite zones from 3&K
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>>383935541
I seriously hope Azure Lake makes it into this as a full level.
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>tfw i really like the sonic heroes special stages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK3U5wZeC2s
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>>383935541
Calling it now,

>Green Hill
>Labyrinth

>Chemical Plant
>Mystic Cave

>Hydrocity
>Azure Lake

>Flying Battery
>Lava Reef

>Stardust Speedway
>Quartz Quadrant
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>>383936345
It was a long fucking time ago that I played Heroes but for some reason I had so much trouble getting the third emerald.
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>>383936431
>Too much water
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>>383935541
well done anon

just what we needed, what if we double dip and get mystic cave
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>>383936431
This is it, ladies and gents. Feast your eyes on Mania's level lay out, and add the 5 other brand new levels, this is the game.
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>>383936431
Hydrocity should lead to chrome gadget, which is a completely perfect transition to flying battery.
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There is no way the double for for sonic 2 won't be Sky chase zone, you know whitehead and co want to take that level and put it on steroids.
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>>383936431
>>383936431

This is my fucking dream list but there's no way we're getting this. I doubt both Labyrinth and Hydrocity would make it in. Also if we do get a Sonic 3 competition stage it's probably going to be Chrome Gadget.

Please just fucking give me Hydrocity and Lava Reef.
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>>383938932
I have a feeling whichever we get out of Lab/Hydro, will heavily be the counterpart in it. So if we get lab zone, expect loads of hydrocity parts, and if we get Hydro, expect loads of lab zone parts
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>>383938932
>Please just fucking give me Hydrocity and Lava Reef.
ah I see you're a man of taste as well
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>>383899710
Is it getting physical release on Switch?
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>>383919565

WHAT THE FUCK - WHERE IS TAILS ADVENTURES?

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!
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>>383939387
You mean Tails Skypatrol, right?
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>>383930859
Switch, but maybe also PC just to support it more. I don't really need two copies but I want this game to do well.
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>>383930879

Not repping Sonic 3 like what happened in Generations.
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>>383935541

What does it mean "forbidden 3"? Does that mean they can't use it because Michael Jackson composed the stage song?
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>>383940148
Correct.
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>>383940148 That's what I think.
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>>383940148
Pretty much. Sonic 3 has legal issues with it's music and those three are the biggest candidates.
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>>383940331
>>383940246
>>383940231

So you're telling me Michael Jackson had nothing to do with the best tracks in the game? (Hydrocity).

Too bad.
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>>383940457
That one seems fine, since it was included in Generations as an unlockable song that you can use in stages.
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>>383935541
You missed Death Egg Robot being the Green Hill act 2 boss. ;)
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>>383940457 I've only played Sonic & Knuckles, I don't know everything about this.
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>>383940816
I guess, but I didn't bother with it, since 2's Death Egg isn't really a level, so it wouldn't get remixed for Mania by default, just like 1's Final Zone.
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>>383899282
Does anyone have the 60fps version of this
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>>383940823
Then you haven't played Sonic 3 properly. About the Michael Jackson shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uko0fCp86c
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>>383940582
I'm pretty sure Cirocco Jones wrote that one or had a hand in it and he's also suing or did sue Sega very recently so I don't know about that.
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>>383940457
He was pulled out because his compositions and instrumentation sounded terrible on the genesis.
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>>383907632

>get to final boss
>game is hype as fuck
>yfw
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>>383941165 1. The closest thing I have is Sonic 3 and Knuckles on Steam. (I can't get past the first level since it runs horribly.)
2. I just watched that video, it's really cool.
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>>383941409
No, he left on his own accord because he wasn't happy with the limitations of the Genesis soundchip. He asked to have his name removed and the people who ended up finishing the soundtrack for him were all people who worked with MJ closely on his studio albums.
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>>383936154
i agree with you. it was an interesting concept for a stage.
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>>383941717

if only he was asked to compose Sonic CD,,,
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>>383941717
that's weird because moonwalker was about the best you could get, sounds really accurate for the time

maybe he thought he was making a game for the sega cd?
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>>383936431
this would be ideal for me personally.
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>>383907632
i'd prefer if they kept mania completely separate from forces but that's almost definitely not happening, is it
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>>383941856
I don't know if he actually had a part with Moonwalker outside of licensing.
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Can we stop talking about Sonic 3 and get back to the point of the thread now? I'm fine with this but I find it kind of annoying.
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>>383941179
I don't think people understand just how buried sonic 3 is

Jones said a lot of musicians were suing sega for unpaid work recently. One guy they got to talk suddenly disappeared and removed mention of his work on his website. Probably because silence is the best policy if you're planning to sue someone. And another guy that was questioned about his involvement sperged out and said to talk to his lawyer.

So if sega releases sonic 3 and loses those cases, that's more royalties they owe down the line.
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Mania will somehow link to Forces, purely based on the fact Forces Classic Sonic can drop dash. lizuka will get his dirty mitts on this somehow, I can assure you.
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>>383941717
Yeah "was" jumped in my sentence for some reason. That's what I meant.
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>>383941836
Perfect timeline:
>Japanese soundtrack was made as it was originally
>When the higher up at SEGA decides to throw out a perfectly good soundtrack in favor of something made by americans, instead of calling Spencer Nilsen and David Young, calls MJ and asks if he wants to make the soundtrack for a sonic game.
>Says yes.
>We get both the JPN soundtrack, and a entire soundtrack written and produced by Michael Jackson
>CD quality obviously, so MJ's happy.
>Neither soundtrack is inferior to the other.
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>>383941038
Fair enough, i thought you were just keeping track of what was taken from levels, not what was getting remixed. My bad.
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>>383942424
I'd be totally fine with this if it didn't mean Tidal Tempest Present (US) and Stardust Speedway Present (US) wouldn't be made, I love those 2 from the US OST.
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People say they want Metal Sonic to be the boss for Stardust Speedway in Sonic Mania. Well I have a better idea, why not R-9 from Final Fever?
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>>383942856
I like both US stardust speedways futures
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>>383943029 My personal favorite is JP Stardust Speedway Present.
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>>383942929
He would be a good Act 1 boss
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can we expect 32 more sonic mania threads until the release date?
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>>383943029
I like it too, but the 2 I mentioned are my favorites. Another good one in my opinion is Tidal Tempest Bad Future (US).

>>383943137
Mine is Stardust Speedway Past, I'm so hyped the Past version is in Mania, I can't wait to hear it.
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>>383943241
of course
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>>383943241
We'll probably get more since we had another thread prior to this one.
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>>383942856
>I'd be totally fine with this if it didn't mean Tidal Tempest Present (US) and Stardust Speedway Present (US) wouldn't be made, I love those 2 from the US OST.

They would probably be used in the Sonic 3D soundtrack for the Saturn in this timeline.
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>>383943137
I think I do prefer Present to be JP or JP for the levels before metal sonic at least.
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>>383943241
Comic Con will surely give us a ton more to talk about so expect even more threads than that.
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>>383943137
JP Stardust Speedway Bad Future is catchy as fuck
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>>383943860 That's my second, right behind the Present version.
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>>383931918
But Forces is confirming Gens as non-canon and saying that Classic is now from another dimension instead of the past. Sonic 4 uses Modern but its story is a direct sequel to the Classic games. This Canon is a fucking mess.
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>>383942164
I wish we could see what the original contracts were, because typically in these situations unless it's directly specified in the contract itself to the contrary, audio works in a video game, movie, TV show, or other media is seen as contractor work for hire and the rights default to the IP holder rather than the composer. It's possible the contracts were written in such a way that MJ, Cirocco, Buxer, and the crew maintained ownership of their compositions, but that right is not inherently granted, in fact the opposite is true. If Cirooco is claiming unpaid work then the most he could sue for is the compensation declared to be fair for the work done, but not the rights to the compositions. If there weren't any contracts then the whole fucking situation is cattywampus and you'd have to argue over ownership in court and have a jury and judge decide who is legally granted ownership. That HAS happened before with Silent Hill 2 and 3 with the HAD collection and Konami just tried to get the VA's to sign their rights away after the fact. Basically no matter what the deal is I don't know of a more fucked legal standing in video game history, it's almost incredible that Sega managed to fuck up Sonic 3's rights as badly as they did to where they could even be contested.
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sorry if this has been addressed before, but what makes you guys think that one of the sonic 3 MP stages will be returning to mania? thanks!
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>>383944389
>apologizing on an imageboard
>thanking on an imageboard
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>Stardust speedway past is actually the present
>You travel to the past in the stage, it's the rollercoaster of neverland ranch
>Sonic warns michael jackson about evan chandler
>Michael jackson's scrapped music is remastered from the archives and used in the rest of the game
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>>383944389
Just that it would be the quirky choice I suppose, and Sonic 3 doesn't really have any other options because of the forbidden 3 and the others are quite shit, Hydro will prob take it though. and that means we have another choice, so it's either azure lake, or chrome gadget

see this
>>383935541
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>>383944492
MJ becomes an unlockable character.

truly, the perfect timeline
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>>383944389
Taxman and Stealth wanted to make the multiplayer stages into full single player stages for the Sonic 3 remake, since that doesn't seem to become a thing ever because all of this legal bullshit, it's safe to assume that they wouldn't want to miss this golden opportunity with Mania, which focuses quite a bit on remixing and expanding old stages.
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Do you think the reason why they picked Stardust Speedway Past was so that they didn't have to choose which song to use?
Also, if Present or Future are used, do you think it'll be US or JP?
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>>383944737 You can unlock Knuckles' hat from the OVA.
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>>383945008
US JP mashup remix.
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>>383945008
Either JP or a mix between both JP and US.
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>>383935541
This is 100% what will be the listing for all the levels, not in this order, but it'll be this. Remember, every game must double dip.

>Green Hill Zone [confirmed]
>Labyrinth zone

>Chemical Plant Zone [confirmed]
>Oil Ocean/and or Sky Chase

>Hydrocity
>Azure Lake/Chrome Gadget

>Flying Battery Zone [confirmed]
>Sky Sanctuary

>Stardust Speedway [confirmed]
>Tidal Tempest

screen shot this.
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I hope Act 1 of Mirage Saloon focuses more on the mirage part.
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I'm glad Mania threads exist on /v/, otherwise I don't think any actual discussion of Sonic would be possible here.
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>>383945253
THREE water stages? Come on, man.
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>>383944956
They probably have thought of S3 multiplayer stages, but problem is does Iizuka allows it?
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holy fuck ladies and gents, we just hit the exact 1 month mark till mania release, get fucking hype
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbSPUYlkIoI
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>>383945706
I'm glad Mania exists and is somehow making people not jump on the Sonic hate bandwagon.
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>>383946142
Wait until further/closer to release. Sonic Mania will be hated. it's called the Yooka laylee effect

people see genuine fans enjoy/hype what is coming, and nobody likes seeing other people happy. just not how it works.
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>>383946138
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>>383946043
I was just about to post this. THE WAIT IS STILL AGONIZING.
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>>383946239
romhac
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>>383945571
I think it would be cool if the saloon vanished into a barren desert when you complete the zone

spooky
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>>383946239
Yooka laylee failed to grasp the feel of predecessors, it did not replicate the physics and feel of the older games and were of lesser quality in general with the level design and other decisions.

This game seems to have the same physics of the old games, thats really all it needs because of how bare bones and meh everything else was in the original.
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>>383946239
>it's called the Yooka laylee effect

So Mania's level design is going to disappoint?
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>>383946420
you forgot to the mention that the retro engine has proved itself several times in the past already too
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FUCK. SOMEBODY KNOCK ME OUT FOR 1 MONTH.

put it like this, SDCC in 5 days, mania info then, breaks it up a little
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>>383946420
Yooka Laylee definitely doesn't feel the same but I wouldn't call it worse either. Mechanically it holds up, the special meter is about the only thing that sticks out as obviously stupid and not conducive to the game design. Where it falls apart is challenge variety and engaging level design. It's a less interesting Banjo Tooie.
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>>383907247
>Green Hill with Cave sections
>Chemical Plant
>Stardust Speedway
>CYAN SONIC
WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE
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>>383946683
threaten to shoot up a school, its a 30 day ban and a custom ban page as well, its neat
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>>383946338
hos about this one, Gandalf?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMG3417Tcc0
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>>383946882 I love this.
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Reminder that the art design of the original Sonic boxes is an actual thing called Memphis Design, which was popular in the 90's
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>>383946759
I'm telling you, people keep thinking I'm joking

you have no idea what the fuck Iizuka is capable of, you know he is going to link them

the guy has no fucking clue what he is doing and he wants to be the hero who made mania so badly.
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>>383947272 I'm actually looking forward to Forces. But I do believe you and understand why you're upset.
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>>383946759
modern sonic is the dark blue playable character
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>>383947272
I hope to god that doesnt happen
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>>383946882
Can this be an unlockable outfit in Mania please?

Thanks
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>>383947932
I'll see what I can do.
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>>383947932 Maybe also Knuckles' hat from the OVA.
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>>383948040
I always liked that hat.

It just looks so right on him
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>>383948304 I forgot to mention the sunglasses. Can't have it without those.
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>>383948304
>His hat burned off and he never wore another out of mourning

Leepest Dore
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I'm not even going to -pretend- I know a single thing about pixel art, game design, but

How hard can it be to just add unlockable small clothing items? Maybe Sonic can get his shades from the OVA, knuckles his hat etc. Tails can get uhh....

make tails be able to fly his plane in levels that can't be that hard just get on with it whitehead christ stop complaining
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>>383946759
>>CYAN SONIC
The whole point of Sonic's color change in mania is to resemble how Knuckles looked in Chaotix, since Knuckles is similarly colored in Mania. It's because they stated that they want Mania to feel like the lost Saturn Sonic game.
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>>383948445 Tails had pilot headgear in the OVA.
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If they're not going to do anymore characters, I still think it'd be cool to have alternate sprites for characters. Maybe simple outfits for beating the game as that character for the first time, and then a separate character that replaces the character when you beat it with all the chaos emeralds.

Speaking of, what kind of bonus do you think there'll be when you collect the emeralds?
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>>383948619
>Speaking of, what kind of bonus do you think there'll be when you collect the emeralds?
Super Sonic and Super Knuckles
And maybe if Taxman is kind to us and doesn't care about breaking the canon slightly, Super Tails
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>>383948739 The Super Emeralds aren't canon though.
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What the fuck SEGA, where are the new Stage announcements? Not gonna wait until SDCC for it.
This was teased about three months ago and nothing has surfaced yet. What is it?

Calling it now, Scarlet Mansion Zone or Egg Garden Deluxe.
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>>383948040
I heard another anon say the sonic team hated the hat and requested it be worn sparingly

MEANWHILE AT SONIC TEAM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk6cgp7RcL8
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>>383948619
>Sonic still gets to go super
>pic related happens if you're not Sonic
Thanks Iizuka
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>>383949105
No more brand new stage reveals until launch, see: >>383901621
But we still might get one more remixed level reveal before the game's out.
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>>383949127 I also heard that. I found flaws with the OVA but I never found it bad.
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>>383949170
>the invincibility theme still replaces the stage's
>it's just a longer lasting invincibility
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>>383949170
Sonic Heroes really fucked up the series' reputation

Even if SA2 was the start of a lot of modern era problems, it still felt like they knew what they were doing
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>>383912703
Some kind of run and gun character maybe?

I had an idea for Bean the Dynamite Duck where he uses HUGE round cartoonish bombs when he jumps, giving him some weird momentum. Press jump again in the air and he launches off of the bomb from the angle he was at.
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>>383949337
It annoy's me that this happens, it's pretty much why i'm not going out of my way to find emeralds on my first run.
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>>383949560
So like Plague Knight?
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>>383949170
>tfw hyper sonic, hyper tails/knuckles, and chaotix (and vector's better design by extension) is noncanon because of izuka's autism
>>383949349
I've never ever played a SA game, but this cutscene is cool as fuck. They knew what they were doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdrLC3nqhw
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>>383949127
Look at Knuckles in the background when they kiss

Even he knows

What the FUCK am I looking at
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>>383949560
>>383949685
I like it
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>>383949105
>Scarlet Mansion
And that's the Misty Lake in the background.
Checkmate.
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Get all the--

guys

get all the emerald--

GUYS.

get all the emeralds, go to turn into super sonic

[/spoiler]Knuckles/Tails jump into the game, all the emeralds go around you, Sonic/Knuckles/Tails fuse into a Fox/Hedgehog/Echinda combo super fusion with all there powers. Drop dash/flying/glide/climb
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>>383949897
>Your adventuring days are coming to an end
>SA3 never
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>>383949105
What if it's an indoor portion of Sky Sanctuary?
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>>383950321
Anon are you ok?
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>>383950321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFUBnZpd9w
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>>383950492
Sonic Shorts was cinematic genius
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>>383950492 I thought the exact same thing.
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>>383950464
>speechcraft.gif
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>>383950492
classic
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>>383950492
This became a reality

Are we in the best timeline or the worst? I don't even know anymore
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>>383947038

yep. founded by ettore sottsass.
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>>383950492
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>>383940231
>>383940331
>>383940246
But later editions of Sonic 3 besides SKC (Mega Collection, Genesis Collection, Classic Collection, Steam, Wii VC) all contained the original music composed by MJ. I would consider the Forbidden 3 no longer forbidden. Icecaps song was even featured in Generations.
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>>383951034
Those were emulations of the original. Also Stealth said that Sonic 3 does in fact have legal issues associated with it:

https://www.sonicretro.org/2015/02/regarding-sonic-3-guest-post-by-stealth/

>Icecaps song was even featured in Generations.
No it wasn't.
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>>383951034
>icecap song in generations

You fucking what m8?
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>>383949105
dude the new castlevania game looks sick
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>>383951526
Worst Castlemania EVER.
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>>383950449
It can't be Sky Sanctuary.
The color palette's too different and there aren't enough plants.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sky Sanctuary still got in since it's one of Iizuka's shillzones.
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>>383899961
HE'S ALREADY DONE WITH MANIA HE'S JUST MAKING US FUCKING SUFFER BY WAITING ONE MORE MONTH WHILE HE'S LAUGHING HIS ASS ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK LURKING IN THIS VERY THREAD AND READING THIS POST GIVE ME THE MANIA ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>383951931
>It can't be Sky Sanctuary.
>The color palette's too different and there aren't enough plants.
Anon, look at SS in Generations.
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>>383952086
?
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>>383952629
The stone in Generations is much whiter than in S3K, which matches up with that odd screenshot.
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>>383935541
>Green Hill
>Hydrocity
>Studiopolis
>Chemical Plant
>Flying Battery
>Mirage Saloon
>Mystic Cave
>Labyrinth
>Azure Lake
>A brand new Ice based level to compensate the loss of Icecap
>Quartz Quadrant
>Lava Reef
>Hidden Palace (A mix of S2 + S&K Only if you get all Emeralds by the time you finish Lava Reef)
>Brand new level to compensate the loss of Launch Base
>Stardust Speedway
>Death Egg (Again, mix of S2 + S&K)
>Final Fever

You heard it here folks, Screencap this.
>mfw im actually correct
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