>Has the best platforming mechanics of the first three games

The problem is also that barely any levels require the power ups you get. There's like what, 1 jump in the entire game where you need a slidejump into the spinning move in the air to reach a certain point?

>>383892719
>you unlock speed shoes by beating the game
???

>>383892576

This game made me drop Crash back in the day. Loved the first two and 100% them but quit this early cuz it felt gimmicky.

>>383893093
This was one of the first video games I owned. I loved it, but going back and playing the other two for years Crash 2 was my favourite. 100%'ing the first one a few months ago however has really given me an appreciation for how fiendish the level design is in it so I have to change it to that now.

>>383892576

Crash 2 had the best platforming mechanics. No horse shit moves like souble jump and extended spin attack, and no sluggish mid-air controls.

i play them on my psp. I have every platinum on walking stages but i cant complete the game because i cant stand the vehicle ones.

>>383893186
>sluggish mid-air controls
>in crash 3
I'll take double jumping over the bullshit that was the slide jump in 2 any day

>>383892576
Yeah good thing they designed the levels around those platform mechanics. Oh wait no you can jump slide and spin over almost every single gap in the game.

>>383894570
what's wrong with the slide jump? Not that anon.

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>>383892576
The bike levels were great, shut your whore mouth

>>383895796
Really liked the music in them

>>383895796
Yeah don't really understand the hate

>Beat the game
>Unlock the Bazooka
>none of my friends believe me
>have to take them to my house to show them

>>383892919
Those are used to do the relic time trials.
How is that confusing? You must be retarded.

>>383892719
but you can use those for skipping shit

>spend a couple of hours doing time trial in crash 1
>have a really hard time to get even gold in some levels
>16/27
>decide to do the rest today
>load savegame
>0/27
I fucking hate the save menu. I accidentally disabled autosave and now the game can fuck off forever.

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>>383892576
>He is a hipster of crash games

>>383897563
>closed the game
>possinly turned off the PS4 instead of rest mode
>didn't save before turning it off
Though it does bother me that the manual save button isn't X

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>>383897839
Autosave has spoiled me.

>>383894570
Slide jump feels great though.

>>383894735
>>383898297
The double jump allows you to correct your positioning after jumping, that is something that's especially required in the remake because of the dodgy ledge detection.
The slide jump feels awkward to use imo, and in situations where it's actually needed it never feels as fluid as the double jump.

>>383892576
the airplane levels fucking sucks, but the motorbike ones are really fun and jetski levels are alright
the rest of the levels are the best in the trilogy, though, so it's still my favorite game of the three

>>383897563
lel

The Airplane levels were great fuck you.

>>383898598
The ledge issue is only an issue in the first game BECAUSE you can't slide jump which gives you greater horizontal distance to easily clear a gap. The slide jump also doesn't kill any momemtum like the double jump, gives a speed and distance advantage over normal jumping, and the extra height allows for midair corrections. The slide jump can also be used alongside a spin to get insane height as part of a well known bug(?).

>>383899625
>airplane levels
>great
>literally hold shoot and mash the evade button while turning at things
not a boring waste of time at all

>people prefer Crash 2 over 3 or 1
>when every fucking level in two is copypasted
>it literally has less than 10 original levels not counting the bosses

Plebs.

>>383896190
nowadays a kid can just show him it on google and they'll just be diddling on their phones for 2 hours instead of playing the game.

>>383900493
I fucking hate this nu-world.

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>>383900141
>clearly these people take issue with the visuals and use of assets
>they can't think 2 just plays better than 3
>they can't prioritize fun and challenge over aesthetics no sir
:/

>>383900938
>replaying the same level with a different name is fun and challenging
>when 1 offers a better challenge and even a more varied level design than "crash 2 we were out of money edition"

Again. Plebs.

>>383901527
>just saying it's the same level means it is
every game did that man

>>383901527

Crash warped sucked

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>>383901527
2 > 1 > 3
deal w/ it nerde

>>383901527
I don't care ho much variety there was in Crash 1. It was miserable at some points. Some Levels dragged on forever. Others had bullshit jumps. Crash is bad to control he needed the slide jump at least

>cold hard crash
God I fucking hate this levels gems.

>>383893175
Crash level design went downwards with sequels. It's not like they didn't try though, but they were clearly running out of ideas.
2 pretty much compensates for the slightly worse creativity with bit more variety and new features, but 1 still shines.

>>383902109
>that one box in bonus level
this is why I never 100%'d the game as a kid

>>383902379
That box was just downright cruel. Especially since you already have to traverse the death route forwards, then backwards.

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>>383895796
I like the idea of them more than anything, Crash riding a fucking motorbike and an aeroplane in WW1 is a hilarious idea but they aren't all that fun to play, the only really enjoyable gimmick levels are the ones with Coco riding the tiger

Platform > Pura > Motorcycle > Bi-Plane > Scuba > Jetski

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Just got the Gems for Cold Hard Crash. I'd forgotten how easy the death route becomes if you take two Aku Aku's with you. Time for the Relics.

>>383903298
>jetski lower than scuba
I do not accept this

>>383903415
cold hard crash is fun to relic, also requires the death route iirc

>>383902128
>slightly worse creativity
>coloured Gems
>Hidden cutscenes
>jump on polar 10 times
>hidden bonus levels
>many skips
>Many entrances to secret warp room, all required for 100%

i can rattle off some more if im pushed to but i cba

>>383903509
Why would you take the death route on a speedrun?

>>383903552
Crash 1 also had coloured gems. 6 of them actually, the orange gem never appeared again in future games.

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>tfw you are finally done with Crash
Time to move on.

NOW YOU'RE ON MY TIME YOU LITTLE KEK

>>383900141
That's the thing I love about 1. It has
>Beach
>Jungle
>Tribal Fortress
>River
>Boulder
>Warthog
>Ruins
>Temple
>Snowy Mountain
>Machinery
>Power Plant
>Generator
>Toxic Waste Plant
>Castle Exterior
>Castle Interior
>Laboratory
Meanwhile 2 has
>Jungle
>Snow
>River
>Boulder
>Polar Bear
>Sewer
>Ruins
>Mountain
>Space Station
>Jet-Pack

>>383903734
2gud4me

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Whoever designed the Platinum Time Trial for The Lab can literally go fuck themselves.

>>383903470
Being a PAL-fag, blame PTSD from Hot Coco's relic.

>>383903734
What're the 2% in Crash 1 & 2?

>>383903582
It's a lot faster than normal way and you can get 3 masks that way. It seems gold is achievable going the normal way so go for your life.

>>383898598
>momentum-killing double jump
>fluid

Did we play the same game?

>>383903552
I did mention all the new features didn't I? I'm talking about the quality of level design itself.
Even when Crash 2 is my all time favorite I can't help but feel like the quality of some parts is kinda questionable, like the ruin levels which just consist of square platforms floating in void. Being bit creatively bankrupt is fine if it serves the gameplay well, but it's just not as well designed as similar levels like generator room in Crash 1. Main issue I have is lack of fun challenge.

>>383903853
>Tribal Fortress, Ruins and Castle Exterior are the same set
>so are River, Snowy Mountain and Toxic Waste Plant
>so are Beach and Power Plant
>So are Temple and Generator

>>383903958
Getting all gold relics.

>>383903997
Interesting. Cheers anon.

>>383904032
I was talking more aesthetics.

>>383904065
Cuts out a lot of the timing on those things that slam down on you, it was one of my favorites to time trial ironically given how fuCKING ANNOYING THE GEM IS.

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>>383903853
I agree with this, Crash 2's levels feel too non-specific, like here you're in a sewer, now there are bees everywhere. Crash 1 had more of a sense of progress as you went from island to island until you evetually reached Cortex' lair. Crash 1 feels like an adventure, Crash 2 feels like a chore, but that's just my shitty opinion.

>>383903950
Wasn't it like 20 seconds in PAL regions and over a minute in NTSC for the platinum relic?

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What do you think are the worst Platinum Relics in each game?

My list:
Crash 1
>The Lab
>The High Road
>Native Fortress

Crash 2
>Ruination
>Spaced Out
>Totally Bear

Warped
>Hog Ride
>Ski Crazed
>Mad Bombers

>>383904364
NTSC glitched out and the relic time was the same as Road Crash. I don't remember the PAL time exactly but that sounds about right.

>>383904439
Crash 1 had the worst platinum relics because the levels are so fucking long. When you casually play through them they're fine with all the checkpoints or even the no death gems but doing it fast is fucking ass.

>>383892576
I bet you're glad you never played Wrath of Cortex.

>>383904364
It was. You had to be absolutely 105% perfect on your run.

>>383903639
thats not what i meant by >coloured gems
i was talking about how each gem has a creative requirement in crash 2

dont read everything so literally, unless you are 10 years old

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>>383904501
>tfw you finaly get to the end of sunset vista and it shits out a gold/merely updates your time

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>>383903298
Platform > Pura > Bi-Plane = Jet-Ski > Scuba > The fucking sub from Wrath of Cortex > Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde on the NES > Motorcycle

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>>383904635
>trying to get all gold relics for platinum trophy
>playing sunset vista
>tfw you fuck up one of the jumps and still manage to get a platinum relic
feels good man

>>383904642
>The fucking sub from Wrath of Cortex
I'd repressed that, fuck you.
The Firefly was great though, and it was used in one level.

>>383904439
>Crash 1
Those three you mentioned. Sunset Fortress was actually pretty chill to get a plat. Same with Slippery Climb once you know how it all works.

>Crash 2
Any futuristic level
Bear levels
Sewer levels

>Warped
All of them except the medieval levels.

>>383904358
The prototype level order seemed to go for this angle and overlooking difficulty made more sense.

1st Island
N. Sanity Beach - Jungle Rollers -The Great Gate -Hog Wild -Upstream - Papu Papu - Rolling Stones - Boulders - Native Fortress - Up the Creek - Ripper Roo

2nd Island
The Lost City - Temple Ruins - Boulder Dash - Sunset Vista - Jaws of Darkness - Koala Kong

3rd Island
Cortex Power - Heavy Machinery - Generator Room - Toxic Waste - Pinstripe Potoroo - Road to Nowhere - The High Road - Lights Out - Slippery Climb - Nitrus Brio - The Lab - Fumbling in the Dark - Stormy Ascent - Cortex

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>>383904749
Yeah haha me too. I didn't spend hours wimping out on ideal cycles and falling from the top of the climbing sections haha.

>>383904582
Unless you state otherwise why wouldn't I interpret your post as literal?

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>>383904642
Instead of making a shitty race where you have to memorise the track perfectly to hit all of the boosts and ramps they should have made it an obstacle course.

>>383904772
The Firefly, Atlasphere and Mine Cart were the only fun new mechanics that Wrath of Cortex introduced.

To this day I've never managed to get all Platinum Relics in WoC legitimately because I want to kill myself by the time I get to Droid Void and Coral Canyon.

>>383904992
Classic high jumping nitro

>>383904992
>game punishes you for not collecting all the time boxes

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>>383904890
I still feel like VV should have swapped Cortex Power and Heavy Machinery around in the Crash 1 remaster, it never made sense in the original game how the first level is set inside a factory and the second level is set at the ENTRANCE of the factory.

>>383904928
They should have just made the Motorcycle levels play like Crash Team Racing.

>>383904992
Those Nitros are so unpredictable sometimes.

>>383905067
There's a switch at the end of the level to blow up the nitro behind the time boxes, I think it's faster than spinning them at the start of the level.

>>383904947
I didn't mind Atlasphere in WoC but it was fucking awful in N-tranced. Either Coral Canyon or H2 Oh No nearly made me give up on all golds.

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>>383904992
>skipping the first 2 time crates
>spinning the first mouse at the second mouse and freeing the lizard instead of spinning it at the 3 crate and trapping the lizard
>jumping on top of the monkey and the TNT
Your gameplay is giving me fucking cancer

>>383898180
Dumb weeb

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POOOOSSTTT
COCOOOOONNGGGGGG

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>>383905368
Best boss redesign

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>>383905368
Since you asked nicely, you can have a CooCoo~

>>383905485
what if i collect these lives

>>383905485
plz source

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>>383905480
I think Tiny and N. Tropy manage to edge him out just a bit, but Kong's definitely a top contender.

Pinstripe was easily the worst though:
>no light colored area around his mouth
>weird Joker lips
>still no actual pinstripes
Jesus christ, what did they do to the poor Don Potorotti?

Anyone else gotten 100 lives in Crash 1? I know you could glitch out the counter in the original but I've gotten it randomly a few times in the trilogy.

>>383905480
>skipping leg day

>>383905726
You can do the glitch in the remake.

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>>383905543
Then you get banned for 3 days, which is why these collectibles are necessary
>>383905573
Artist is hearlesssoul

>>383905726
I have like 186 lives at the moment. I'm trying to go to 999 and see what happens after that.

>>383905790
The whole exit the level while the life is registering one? Because I got it a few times in the middle of levels.

>>383892576
it was my favorite crash game as a kid

now I hate it

My biggest issue with 3 is that it is too goddamn easy after 1 and 2.

>>383896198
is that in the originals? I wasted time trying to plat some stage without beating Cortex first

>>383906039
This is one of the reasons why 2 is my favorite.

Crash 1 is infuriating primitive bullshit, Crash 3 is easy game for babbies. Crash 2 manages to find a balance and is actually legitimately challenging but not frustratingly hard, and with practice you can actually master it.

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>>383905715
>he actually has ""pinstripes"" in the remastered version

Keep in mind that his original model never had any pinstripes.

>>383906039
Bullshit, the plats are fucking annoying to get in 3.

>>383906339
The game was designed with relics in mind. Crash 1 and 2 weren't.

I like how Crash 2's movment feels the best, but only because its so buggy.

> Neuteral Slide Spin
> Spinning high jump
> Spinning long jump

are all unintentional mechanics and ruin some of the "puzzle" platforming in bonus rounds (ND never intended the player to jump more than 3 boxes high), but they make running around and especially speed-running feel so smooth.

The power-ups in Warped were just game breaking. Trying to do some of the bonus rounds without using them is Crash 1-tier challange, but its rendered useless because you can just shoot boxes with the bazooka and clear any jump with ease. They dont even do any metroidvania stuff where you cant 100% a level until you come back with the Double Jump or whatever. You only use powers in levels after you get them, and the only times they are actually nesisiary (instead of a lame crutch) its woefully simple. The only time I ever felt intelligent using them was trying for Platnium Relics.

>>383906767
>unintentional
Source?

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>>383906247
glad they did in ctr

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>level has death route
>there are boxes in those

these are fucking brutal man, no wonder I never bothered to finish these games

>>383907549
Casual.

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>>383907641
hey at least I'm beating them now

took two decades but even so

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>>383903914

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>it's a nitro high jumps at the last second episode

Playing Crash 2 before playing it in the remake was a huge mistake, they fucked up pretty much everything possible. I don't think they got a single damn thing right and it's frustrating noticing everything they got wrong when I play the remaster.

>>383908296
?

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>>383907782

I like how Polar now attempts to run away from Crash before he jumps on him. Nice little touch.

>>383905246
>being autistic

>>383895796
no the fuck they arent you start off way slower than all of the computer racers and the controls are shit and get even worse when you hit boost pads. Fucking hated them,the Coco jetski werent so bad though

>>383904992
rekt

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>>383908541

>>383909209
Perfection

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>crash 2 has consistently better levels because of the lack of vehicles from 3, but some of them with the same themes tend to blend together, like beehaving and diggin it or crash dash and crash crush
>crash 3 has the better platforming stages with better level design, more moves, and levels with the same themes tend to stand out from each other more but at the cost of being a lot easier, along with more gimmick stages and less secrets than 2
>gimmick stages in 3 are a mixed bag since most of them are fun but I still prefer pure platforming in most cases
I'm so conflicted. Before playing the N.Sane trilogy I thought Crash 2 was the better one but now I can't decide. Crash 3's platforming is better but has less of it overall, while Crash 2 is almost entirely platforming but isn't as good as 3s.

Fuck this Polar level relic what kind of bullshit is this:

What do you want for Crash 4 to take after if they do it?

>>383911958
Tawna and Pinstripe to team up against Crash and Coco.

How was the Ufo race level in the remake? I remember having a lot of trouble with it as a kid but I don't know if it was because it was actually hard or I was retarded.

>>383892719

The powerups were basically designed for Time Trials.

>only 45.8% have the trophy for beating ripper roo in crash 1
What went wrong with modern gamers?

>>383913623
Seems pointless considering the game is already fun enough to speedrun starting from Crash 2.

The double jump is still a momentum killing piece of shit, and only good power-up, the super spin, should've been regulated only to aerial use.

>>383909209
OG Crash actually looks insane in his expressions where as the new ones are more cute wacky hijinks

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post Crash girls

>>383905485
CRASHED