/CIV5/ Thread I fucking hate playing against pic related, but

>>383881396
I can't play on prince because I can't build an economy AND maintain a military if I want to play not crazy military.

>>383881727
The key is diplomacy. Give non-homicidal civs random shit you won't miss for free, then take out defensive pacts with them. If you have an excess of useless shit, give it to the homicidal civ, and become their friend.
Or jew the ever-loving shit out of the universe, buy some city-states, and pass shit like the standing army tax.
Or set up shop on an island. The AI does not like islands.

military is so annoying late game. trying to manage dozens of units in multiple theaters just to get those capitals when you basically won.

frustrating shit. is it better in civ 6?

>>383882203
It's very clearly the best CIV game. CIV6 isn't bad by any means but CIV5 is just so well put together that it's tough to follow it.

>>383881976
What about the early game? That's when I have trouble doing shit like building units and maintaining an army.

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>>383881396
>when you hear the drums just before an attack

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>When your bro CIV since 3500 BC doesn't come to your aid when another CIV declares war on you.

>friend always insist we use raging barbarians

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my game crashes during AI phase on specific turns between 150-400 every time i start a new campaign (no mods)
has anybody else had this problem? i see other people having this issue on forums and such but there does not seem to be a fix of any sort to address this

>>383881727
On many maps you can use the terrain to your advantage to defeat a numerically superior force, especially against the relatively simple AI.
Hold them in chokepoints while you bombard them with arrows. Stand on forests and hills for the defensive bonus and force them into floodplains and marshes where the get a defensive penalty. Pull back to your cities and focus only on their melee units that can actually capture them. Once you've done that, you can usually just finish off the ranged units without any pressure of losing a city.

>>383883351
we had this when playing multi, the solution was to use dx9 version instead on dx10 exe

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>>383881396
>4 city limit game

>>383882385
If you start very close to a hostile civ, just reload.
Build walls. Build friendships. Give shit like 1 GP per turn, or random horses, or luxury resources you have multiple of to the homicidal dickwad closest to you for free. Odds are solid that when they decide to wreck someone's shit, it will either be another military civ who stuck their thumb up their ass, or some other pussy-ass civ that isn't giving them shit, and they thus hate slightly more.
On that note, establish a trade route with them. That also improves relations.
Build a few more military units than you otherwise might, and don't waste them. Fuck, if you want, park them in the city that made them and ignore them until you can upgrade them. Your military strength will go up, and if it comes down to a coin flip between kicking in your teeth or Ghandi's, those extra few points from your lazy-ass warriors Ghandi didn't build may be the deciding factor for the dickhead.
Try to get archers early. Early military units have a hard time bringing down cities, especially if they have ranged support. If you can thin his dudes out enough, you might be able to even score some scratch by having your scouts pillage his shit until he gives up.
Don't steal tech from the aggro civs. It pisses them off, and honestly, odds are good they don't have much better than you.
If a civ not usually prone to aggression gets ahead too much in technology, absolutely steal from them. The only reason they are likely to try stomping you is because their Great War infantry shit all over your musketeers. Bridge that gap ASAP.
Don't make a bunch of declarations of protection for city-states, especially if you know there isn't anything you can do when the Mongols show up.
Make friends. You should give them names. let's call them Patsy. Is Shaka knocking at the door? Tell your friend, Lord Patsy that they should go to war with Shaka! That buys you time while Shaka's economy is occupied.

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>>383883561
>mfw I play me & 22 AIs on a Tiny (2 player) map

>>383883701
This. The AI only considers # of units when calculating military strength. You can kill their whole army with 1 well-placed machine gunner but they'll be on a single 1pop city messaging you like "haha! I have the upper hand, your demise is imminent!" if they have 5 units and you have 4.

Also link related for Immortal/Diety difficulties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWSoYCetG6A

>>383882385
just build enough units as a deterrent

>>383881976
Plenty of routes to particular Civ will prevent them from attacking, but that's just among other things. If you keep one archer around, then trade routes won't save you either.

>>383881727
By building cities in defensive spots, and thanks to AI combat abilities, it's not that hard not to die. I don't have very good winning % on Diety, but I almost never lose by being conquered.

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>>383884132
>used to play co-op with a friend a lot
>he used to ALWAYS get ganked by an AI early on
>"bro build an army"
>"i have one!"
>it's one archer in his capital
>mfw

>>383881727
Everything below the two highest difficulties is piss easy. The Ai sucks so bad at warfare they will suicide all their units into you

>>383882279
>civ5
>best civ

Underage faggot

Anyone else tried or has thoughts on the Vox Populi/Community Patch?

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>>383883842
Yea, this is retarded. Land sizes:
>my: 24.502.900
>theirs: 24.505.200

>Your country is so puny it probably be mistaken for a barbarian encampment.
It rustles my jimmies like nothing else. The same in Civ6:
>get my first coastal city
>hohoho, it seems that your navy is really small, how can you protect your coastlines.

>>383881727
Play as Egypt in a 1v1 Tiny map.
Make it your goal to practice killing the other guy before turn 100.
Once you do this, up the difficulty one and go again.

Also even if you're going for a culture, military, diplo victory you ALWAYS need a strong science core. National College is a must, going for Great Library is possible on anything under Immortal/Diety too. Remember the best tile upgrade for nearly any situation is a Trade post. Save up some policies and go for +science from Trade Posts and universities.

>>383881396
just play japan

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>>383881396
I never really had a problem with Bismarck. He'd always start in a terrible spot and end up being crowded out by his neighbors or the terrain.

>>383884561
Also unless you're venice make sure you always have 3-4 cities by turn 100. If you're going Tall this will do you fine for the game. If you're going wide keep expanding with 4pop (capped) cities and only build a market/library in them before making them generate gold.
ICS (city spam) was nerfed slightly with one of the expansions but still performs well with some certain civs. Mayans come to mind because of their Shrine.

If you're on an ocean map never underestimate Privateer spam.

is civ 5 worth getting into if i enjoy the board game settlers of catan but despise risk?

Are there any essential mods I should run? I've only ever played multiplayer but I'm going to give singleplayer a shot.

>>383884775
The general at /vg/ has a list.

>>383884561
Why Trade Post? It's good with jungle and universities/rationalism, but early it's shit.

>>383884896
oh okay, wasnt sure if it was up to date or not

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>>383884775
enhanced UI is a fucking godsend and makes management of everything so much easier

>>383881396
it doesnt matter who you play against when you are playing as city state of korea

>"Oh, you got your first gunpowder unit, how cute. Have a nuke."

>>383884462
yes it's gud

>>383882873
He probably just likes having shitload of free XP.

>>383884462
Best mod ever. I've been playing it for 100 hours and I'm still pretty overwhelmed and get ganked in the medieval era.

Does anyone know what might be the reason for Civ5 not to work on Ubuntu, when it works on Windows 7 on the same machine (laptop with i5 and IntelHD), despite all the requirements saying it should be the same?

>>383885048
>Get 8 Knights and pillage all your tiles while you fall behind on everything

What now, fuccboi?

>play on earth map
>spawn in europe
>shitton of wars and backstabbing
>finally get to the point where i can start exploring
>austraila has nothing but bandit camps
>literally none of the AI was able to expand there

>>383882873
Pick this when you are playing as Aztecs to farm sweet culture, or have Unlimited Barbarian experience mod. Besides, on lower difficulties 6 and lower, by picking Raging Barbarians you are guaranteed to find plenty of free workers in barbarian encampments from other Civs. The AI don't seem to handle them very well (as anything else for that matter).

>>383884775
Infoaddict (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=79000477&searchtext=) is great, sort of like an ultra detailed demographics tab. Once you get used to it, it's hard to go back.

There's a whole load of civs and custom maps to play around with

There's a few complete overhauls with custom civs, units, resources and maps that may be worth trying even if they're a little buggy.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=75522294 is a more focused WWII game with a few fun scenarios
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128722076 is based on Game of thrones
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=217840547 is based on the Dungeons and Dragons faerun setting.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=662264008 is an RPG where you control a single unit

>>383885302
you bring knight, i bring infantry with blitz from the get go. what now?

>>383885023
This. If you install only 1 mod get this.

>>383885448
Are you playing on Settler? Korea's science boost isn't even that good in player hands.

>>383882873
>free exp
>free culture
>double free culture if you're aztecs
What's not to like?

>>383885540
>free rape and pillage

>>383885683
Only if you suck at the game.

>want to play on anything higher than prince
>AI is always ahead of you during early game
>they will get the wonder you're building before you do
>you won't be able to start any religion
>they will have 3 cities while you're still struggling to research tech you need and trying to make your first worker
>eventually run out of nearby land and have to go to war against them

>>383884584
Japan is legitimately shit.

>>383885720
Emperor is Easy Mode.
Immortal is Normal Mode.
Deity is Hard Mode.

Anything lower than that doesn't even qualify as a game. You can just do whatever and still win, or build every wonder in the game.

On Deity, your first building is a shrine and you don't build wonders.

>>383882873
>not always picking raging barbarians

>>383885023
it always looked like a clusterfuck to me, but I guess you gotta get used to it?

>>383885898
I agree, it looks like shit and tells you a bunch of shit you don't really need to know. Almost as bad as Civ 6.

>>383885697
I really don't get who you're trying to impress. In the early game you should focus on building cities and improving tiles while having like 2 archers and 1 warrior. That's pretty hard to do if you have barbarian horsemen and hand axes coming from every direction

>>383885540
>no buildings or wonders because you're spending all your production to troops
>no gold because you have to spend it all on military upkeep
alternatively
>no tile upgrades, workers or settlers because you're surrounded by barbarians pillaging everything while you turtle up inside your city
I'm not saying it isn't manageable but it makes the early game pretty frustrating.

>>383881396
Sup fag, I see you really like your city states

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>>383886000

>>383885523
>Korea's science boost isn't even that good
if you are playing as one city and have half of your working tiles be academies and you have new deal and you wonder spammed becaus eits easy as one city then son, its unbeatable.
i play on prince aka. normal

>>383885958
Not trying to impress shit. Only need 1 good ranged unit to farm a camp forever.

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>>383886087
>i play on prince aka. Visual novel mode

>>383886087
>>383885523
Korea's the GOAT science civ, followed by Mayans and Baby-lon.

>>383885898
>right side has the major civs and what they have/want
>also has city states and their current quests
>left side(not shown in that pic) has the current production of your cities
>also has your unit list that you can customize
It's only a clusterfuck if you don't know what they're for. It saves you a lot of time opening menus and scrolling through cities and city-states.

>>383886093
So how do you deal with hand axes and horsemen?

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>There are people in this very thread playing unmodded Civ 5

???

help i can't stop playing egypt with the goal of building every single world wonder in the game

i've even made it to the point where i had statue of liberty, prora and kremlin in one city

though there are always a few wonders that other civs get because they're lowest priority (like mausoleum or pyramids)

>>383886227
If the camp is empty then they'll just sit in the camp. Just keep the camp ded and you're golden. Military policy does the rest.

>>383886368
Play Vox Populi, each wonder you build increases the cost of other wonders in the same era. This forces you to strategize more carefully and only choose the ones you really need.

>>383885898
Maybe play mobile games instead

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>playing rome, setting up towns and making cash money
>make friends with all civs I come across
>meanwhile Indonesia is rampaging across their starting continent wiping out everything in sight
>finally meet them, they start talking shit
>get denounced, denounce them back and all the other civs pat me on the back
>make a defence pack with every civ besides Indonesia
>Indonesia finally declares war, all other civs declare war on them
>other civs do literally nothing to help me fight
>15 turns later they all surrender and give free towns and gold to Indonesia while I have to fight them alone

>>383886087
Anything you do is unbeatable on prince.

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>>383884464
Time to repurpose a /fit/ meme

>>383886291

Modded Civs are tricky. Many of them are completely OP or too similar to existing Civs.

>>383885819

Yes, if you've put 200+ hours in the game and understand the mechanics inside and out.

I still remember my first campaign I lost on Chieftain because I didn't understand the BNW mechanics and allowed Ethiopia to win diplo victory.

>>383881727
>I can't play on prince
Oh wow I forgot how much /v/ actually fucking sucks at video games

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>>383881396
>playing CIV when you could be playing EU4

kys

>>383881727
Explain.

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>>383889187
>playing EU4 when you could be playing Victoria 2
>also redditspacing
fuck you

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>how you want your Deity senpai?

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>>383889187
>>383890742
>not playing ck2
tsk

>>383891529
>Deity senpai
You're not playing as a deity, anon. This isn't Black & White.

>>383891529
>playing as arabs
you had it coming

>>383881727
I never get why the game doesn't collect taxes from civilians like they do in real life population growing should also mean tax going up

>>383891993
Your civilians produce output by working tiles, retard.

>>383891549
>pic related
I once had a doppelganger in CK2.
I just look to the county next over and there's a guy with the same name as me, looks almost like me, is one year younger and unlanded. Family tree's just him. I think what the fuck, better keep him close, gave him a barony. Two years later found him plotting to fabricate a claim on my duchy.

>muh difficulty
>civ 5
Try playing Civ 6 people for real challenge

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>>383882669
>When your bro civ joins the rest of the naysayers and turns on you

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>>383893801
>unironically recommending shit games to people

>>383894682
I have heard people say "the latest civ is the worst" since Civ 4 was released
So you are nothing but a noise

>>383893801
>challenge
civ 6 has the worst ai in the series

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>>383893965
>When you show what happens when they betray you

>>383893801

Barbs are the real challenge in Civ 6. I've seen the AI get steamrolled by them.

I like playing as the Anime leaders from the workshop

>>383894798
Civ 2 was my first civ. What's your point? Yes civ 5 was also bad at launch but with 6 the core mechanics are so irredeemably terrible I don't see how an expansion or two can salvage it.

>>383881396
Bump. I've been playing lately.

i think i'm going to play on marathon, bros
this thread gave me a boner

Are any of the custom civs good? I've never bothered downloading any before.

>>383895956
>but with 6 the core mechanics are so irredeemably terrible

I don't see how. The core mechanics, the district system and civics cards, have a lot of potential.

>>383884462
I can't go back to vanilla after having played VP.

Who /wonderrushingasegypt/ here?

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>that early game where you and two or three other nations are all bros but years later they start fighting among themselves

>>383896168
Both of those systems make for really boring game play. How?
>Districts
You're going to always want the same districts in every city. They already gutted the most interesting aspect of the system anyway (hammer stacking).
>Cards
Again, cool on paper but, just like districts ends up being just tedious more than anything. Nigh impossible to balance which ends up with a stale meta game of always having to go a certain route, always having to juggle the same cards at the same points of the game to do certain things. TEDIOUS! It's not good game play.

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>>383896782
>When you are friends with civs either side of you, and they are at war.

>>383883561
>4 city limit game

???
Even when playing tall with Tradition, you still want 6-7 cities if there is good land and you can settle.
On a huge map with a lot of land, you want to settle as many good cities as possible.

>>383896893

Not before you get national college, unless you're going for an early game marathon domination victory.

>>383897024
You get college very early in the game, I don't see how "4 city limit game" applies.
Or if you are going liberty and spamming cities, you can finish it with engineer from completing the tree.

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>tfw when simultanously turning one part of the world into a radioactive moonscape and bumrushing the other with tanks
>tfw when everyone on the globe hates your island empire but you're navy fucks everything up
Seriously the most fun way to play is be a complete dick from the start and get everyone to hate you
Nothing like having to fight 7 wars at the same time, shuffling your fleets and armies and crushing them all

>>383888558
Mod balance is so out of control. I've seen people happily put +2 Science on mines, and -50% Unhappiness from cities. It's ridiculously broken.

>>383897282
Just play the No Quitters mod, its pretty balanced, its meant for competitive play.

>>383896893
How can you make more than fucking 4? I play on Pangea Standard, is that why I'm fucking up?

>>383899687
No, you are just bad at the game.

>>383886064
I like how he's mostly your bro but still mows other civs down like flies.

>>383884336
Civ 5 is the best Civ game