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What happened?

I miss it so much.
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>>383867704
p2w elements such as temporary items and f2p unable to buy perma guns
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Too much P2W, too many stupid new maps/modes and weapons being added.
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Speaking of "What happened?"
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>>383868145
This happened.
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Too many hackers is another reason. I left it when the pre-game lobbies were taken out. They were put back in later, but I was already out for a few years.
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>>383867704
What ever happened to private servers? Why did the Korean gaming industry have to die so hard? Pentavision was ahead of its time.
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>>383867704
Here's a Collection of what happened:

>Game wanted to profit
>Made paying have an incredbily higher advanatger or non-paying users.
>Made paying users use RNG capsules to increase further profit
>Permanent guns were hard
>Removal of the coupon shop so PEN users gained no chance
>Increase of Egyptians coming in a raiding the servers
>Egyptians where everywhere in everygame with the worst connection ever
>Easy hacks that could be easily obtained on pvpers
>Removal of fun glitches
>Inclusion of BS weapons that couldn't be countered(Twin Blades, Breaker)
>Inclusion of BS weapons that were just dumb and dulled down the game(Spy Dagger)
>No places where you WOULDN"T find AP users. Or fight PEN users
>Station 2, Swords Only
And the biggest one of them all
>Removal of the Lobby.

Real shame. One of the favorite games before the shit storm
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>>383869443
I really miss the early days of this game. It was purely skill and so much fun. Man I miss just smashing shieldfags with my bat.
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>>383869443
Oh I forgot theres a bit more:
>Company merging 3(+?) times. Getting ideas in a mismatched and thrown in the blender
>Forums getting destroyed and everything deleting. Erasing holding of the past(One post had all the patches before they stopped counting them)
>Major players quitting and leaving.
>Incredibly hard leveling cap that before the Revamp the highest was still at S2 and was playing since the beginning
>New weapons that had no skill cap/floor/or ceiling. And had no purpose at all
>Shit community that clings onto hope that things will get better (HellaHell is the biggest example)

If you guys want this game back to its prime. Check out S4 League Bunker. It's actually on one of the few legit servers for this game and it has no AP or things you need to buy with your own money. You are already max level from the beginning and every customization is avaliable to you for free. No AP Stats at all either. Everyones on a even playing field.

Theres also custom customization. Some guy put 2B in the game.
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>>383869443
>Spy Dagger
It shouldn't have, but this piece of shit made me so angry. In a game where lagging could let you pull off bullshit, a weapon that could essentially take you down in one good stab was so obnoxious.
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I missed playing this shit with /a/ years ago. Counter Swords and Semi-rifles everywhere.
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>>383870165
Yeah it was one of the main reasons I quit. Nothing on +1 should be able to kill me at 130 hp
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>>383870542
The month that /v/ played this as FOTM is one of my fondest memories tbqh.
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>>383870165
There's no tradeoff for being +2 speed. Handgun tradeoff was that it's a mediocre weapon outside of running. You take the risk of eating a weapon slot for more scoring potential.

Spydagger literally has no drawbacks. High kill power. +2 speed, near ohkos most players, good left click skill, good recovery
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>>383869205
To answer your second question, they became Jews and their players stop playing Jewish Korean games. If Koreans stop being Jews and just be Koreans then they'll bring back their player base again.
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>>383867951
This, plus the game felt like an inferior version of Gunz.
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>>383869983
My correction. The Server is called S4Max
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>>383871224
I really have to check this out. How active is this private server?
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>>383871224
Anon...
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>>383867704
>use the shocking absorb weapon in this game
>opponent cries like a baby

I even was accused for hacking because I was winning.
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>>383869983
>>383869443
Don't forget.

>Getting rid of Pananaman

For those that doesn't know who he is, that's the dude who gave the game its unique art style and aesthetic design.
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>>383871584
Every design after that was pure garbage.
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>>383870165
>>383870626
Maybe it's just me but I didn't find Spy Dagger to be that much of a threat. If you keep your self mobile, chances are they ain't gonna land that stab. And 80% of the time people who use that are shitters. Granted there is nothing more annoying than being in a heated 1v1 with someone and then only to die to some dipstick that slashed me from the back with the dagger. Then again there is nothing else more satisfying than counter swording them fucks because you can see them coming a mile away with that dagger.
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>>383871274
It usually gets 10-20 people on during the day. 30-40 regulars
>>383871323
Its asleep thats why. It's AM on a weekday. Not a whole lot of people know about it too.
>>383871584
I believe he left by himself. He still draws Fumbi in Game Master clothing from time to time. He's with Square Enix last time I checked on him
http://i.imgur.com/naHcYsq.png
something I made because I like his art
https://twitter.com/pnmmn?lang=en
^his twitter
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>>383872039
>>>383871274 (You)
>It usually gets 10-20 people on during the day. 30-40 regulars

Holy hell this server is fucking dead.
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>>383867704
DID SOMEONE SAY
ANCHOR?
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>>383872208
What did you expect. 1000 players? It's S4 League in 2017. No one looks at it anymore. Official at this point is just a quarantine zone so the bad players don't come over and ruin this little sanctuary
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>>383871873
http://s4league.aeriagames.com/media/wallpapers
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>korean game thrives
>comes to the west
>western market doesn't give a shit about hackers so they continue to exist and grow and multiply in numbers
>hackers overtake legit players, thrusting the game into irrelevance because all the normies quit
>p2w rears it's head to try and keep them in the black
>game shuts down when they're no longer able
I don't know why we don't have required text verification on all accounts for MMOs.
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>>383872754
They never IP banned hackers only account banned which was dumb
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I remember when I last played the game had gotten so bad that the only way I could play it was make new accounts, play for a week in the beginner channel then ditch the account once my AP gear ran out/I was no longer able to play in beginner. There were like hardly any games outside of that channel and it was impossible to manage against all the P2W bullshit.

After a while I got tired of making new accounts and realized it wasn't worth the bullshit.
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YEAH YEAH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuCXFv-F6LY
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>>383873285
Fuzzy Control is a better song, but Supersonic is still -the- S4 song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRf9b8hplpo
BEFORE THE RECORD STORES SELLING
BEFORE THE RADIO STATIONS PROMOTE
BEFORE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD
WE'RE PLAYING
WHO'S DAT MAN WHO'S DAT MAN
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>>383873285
>send this song to friend a few months back
>"haha remember when we played S4 like all the time? :)"
>"I always muted the music when I played"

Do we stay friends?
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>>383873285
>>383873394
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>>383873505
No.
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>>383872923
bans never do anything because you can make infinite accounts with no repercussion whatsoever. korea had the right idea with KSSN requirements. ipin is pretty good too. Obviously social security numbers being required is a no go in the west but you can easily force people to verify their accounts on a phone number or something else that stops people from being able to make a new account in under 5 minutes.
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>>383873285
You are the chaser! Bring it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f2NV2gjCZg
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>>383873505

I replaced all my music except for the stuff on Old School, there were only like 2-3 good songs otherwise.
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>>383873757
>you were able to replace the BGM

I mean I really loved S4 BGM but that was a really nice feature.
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YEAH!
YEAH!
HE'S GETTING PRESSURE !
HE SHAKES THE PRESSURE!
IT'S AMAZING!
HOW CAN CONTROL!?
TOUCHDOWNNNNNNNNNN!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13XQsOG7PKc
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>>383874125

Agreed. I also liked that the game actually gave enough of a shit to have BGM in the first place, even if I did replace it.
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why'd they have to drop the ball so hard?
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Man, I remember when half the times I tried to connect to the servers I just flat out wasn't able to.
The game was a P2W mess but it was really something else. I almost miss it.
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U NO U NO U HAFTA
BRING IT ON A LITTLE FASTA
DAS RIGHT WE SUPASONIC
Y'ALL BETTA JUMP RIGH' ON IT
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Post yfw YOU ARE THE CHASER
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>>383868808
the literal console downgrade patch
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>>383874125
They also had that in Drift City, which was a bunch of people here's literal first exposure to Eurobeat beyond Running In The 90s back when we first had threads for it.
Had some good songs of their own, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKTJJMJXfnQ
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Played this a lot with /v/ years ago. I loved using the wall skill with the obstacle-penetrating shock weapon.
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Used to play this all throughout high school with friends, even after it became p2w trash
Has there even been another gunfu game like s4 or gunz? I'd love to play a new game like that with a thriving community
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>>383873394
I always really loved Fuzzy Control even though I didn't like the night time level that much. Although my strategy of putting the turret on that street lamp and blocking off the side passage with the wall got me a bunch of kills.
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>>383874340
no one anywhere thought it was ever going to be good. They announced with it's teaser trailer back in like 2008 that it was going to be class based and k-style wouldn't be a mechanic, and it was immediately apparent that it was gonna be garbage, that's why there was never any hype for it.
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>>383874470
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>>383867704
I was a big fan of the DJ Max Portable games and have always been curious since the teaser ad for S4 Portable with my copy of DJ MAX Portable 2 but it never went anywhere along with the supposed ps3 version. I never played the actual one since I had dial up til like 2009 and an old compaq desktop from like 2003.

Is it worth playing for someone who's had a lingering curiosity at this point or has that time passed?
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>>383876101
The time is passed indefinitely. Your best bet in getting the original feeling is getting on the S4max discord and waiting until someone starts up match using @everyone/@here
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>>383876101
the time has long since passed. The game as it is now is nothing resembling how it used to be, is loaded with hackers (hacker in every single match guaranteed) and is ultra p2w and you'll find that it's nearlyi mpossible to even just fuck around with paying huge amounts of money or grinding for years.
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>>383875162
Nah

Dead genre. Very unlikely you'll see something like it again in your lifetime.
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>>383876283
>>383876351
Damn that sucks. It's like finding out your old crush got fat, ugly, and became a bitch. I guess I'll just play Overwatch with DJ Max music
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I like how it was portrayed as Jet Set Radio the arena shooter.
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I wonder how many people know the original lore behind S4 League.
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>>383881383
I think most people were interested in being DAT MAN and screaming about Tunnel.
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>SP+ or hookshot depending on the map
>Plasma for rushing into the goal or Counter Sword for extending jumps
>Revolver or handgun for knocking enemy runners off fences

Ball running was so much fun in this game.

>that warehouse map
>ball reset
>wait for the enemy team to come running
>grab it and jump off the windowframe straight across the gap to their goal
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>>383881430
It's actually pretty interesting.

>Bunch of nations fight a bunch of wars
>"Hey, war kinda sucks. How are we going to solve our problems?"
>Some dude makes a large network called the NetSphere, where nations could run secure digital/virtual war games so people can fight there instead of killing each other in real life
>Everyone is on an equal and level playing field, so no army could overpower the other through sheer force
>Everyone is hype for this idea and jumps on it
>Except China
>China is SO NOT HYPE for this
>China hates fair fights and feels the NetSphere cheapened them as a would-be superpower, especially if everyone else agreed to use it
>China proves its point by hacking/exploiting the NetSphere
>Since the NetSphere was compromised, everyone is forced to scrap the concept
>NetSphere code is abandoned
>TIME SKIP (years)
>The NetSphere code is rediscovered, abandoned in a run-down lab or warehouse or something
>Guys clean up the code
>Guys release the code to the public
>Outside personality and style is injected
>The next great e-Sport is born, becoming the "Stylish eSper Shooting Sports," or S4 League for short
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>Downloaded the game
>Black screen and nothing happened
>Tried with another pc
>Black screen and nothing happened
>Asked a friend to download the game and try
>Black screen and nothing happens
What the fuck?
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>>383874340
Why is the anatomy so fucked with this game?
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Not sure if S4, but fuck it.
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>Counter Sword + Sword
>That frilly costume with the exposed sides and back for female characters

My jam right there. I don't know how it is nowadays, but the sword and counter sword were broken as fuck. It felt good to melee people while dodging their bullets.
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>>383881897
Those eyes look haunted.
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>>383882007
Nigga, he's got fangs and shit.
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>>383881857
I liked Sword and Revolver. They made a perfect one-two punch - charge in with the sword and knock them back, and as they're flying, they're at the perfect range to hit with a full-body revolver shot.
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>Strip Bride
BEHOLD, THE WOMAN WITH THE MISSING CLEAVAGE
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>>383881857
I used Revolver/Mind Shock/Mind Charge myself
Middling defensive game but only using Revolvers made me a fucking crack shot
Providing sweet heals or pressuring niggers on the run/through walls, it's all good
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Being Free 2 Play

Name me a single good free 2 play game.
Yes I will just call everyone you name shit because they are.
F2P Games are inherently shit just by virtue of being Free and thus attracting Hordes of Russians / BRs / Koreans who can't speak english and have shit connections.
It also means that the game has to make money somehow other than a price for entry, mostly by either locking you out of content and letting you speed up the process of progression by spending money or completely ruining the artistic integrity of the game with retarded cosmetics that make it harder to actually know what's going on in the game.

Both of them are terrible.
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>play a girl in this game
>score a goal or whatever it was called
>get called sexy
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>>383869443
Lobby is back in now, and you can get some good gacha stuff with PEN.
Still horribly P2W though, and the private servers that popped up over the years all made the same mistake.
S4 could seriously be a competitive game if they didn't have all this retarded shit. Gunz2 sucked, leaving nothing to fill the acrobatic futurepunk shooter void.
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Last one I have on immediate hand.

Were they good designs? Which ones did you like the best?
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>>383882507
Artist has a bad case of sameface but I still dig it.
I was always fond of the outfit in >>383882317
Sporty to the point of ridiculousness, which describes S4 League pretty well.
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>>383882507
I had this
>>383882379
in the actual game, I think I actually paid real money for it.
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>>383882749
Nigga looks like a supervillain.
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Great memories
In the end I could only play Sword Only due to the pay2win
In Sword I could outplay full AP people playing in pajamas (played always without clothes except for the combi ones)
I had a clan full PEN and winning matches against AP was great
In the end the game became unplayable due to all the reasons you have said plus all the mexicans invading the spanish and portuguesse servers, in the beginning I had no problem finding spaniards with low ping to play but in the end there wasnt anybody and I had to play with germans
At some point they put flags I remember so you could say if a person was going to have ping but they removed them because it was racist or some shit, then some people started to create matches with the title spain only or some shit like that but they baned that too
We got cucked out of our server we needed a virtual wall
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At least Cosmic Break is still alive.
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>>383882875
Oh and I remember grinding like a maniac with a ""glitch"" on the arcade modes so I could pay for a taser sword with coupons
In the final level you could put yourself on a rock, equip a machinegun, bring the chaser to almost no life, he couldnt reach you, go out of the room for 40 minutes until the level were near the end, then come and kill it in the final seconds
You gained more coupons but it still was nearly impossible, it really paid off having a weapon an OP AP weapon without paying a single cent
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>>383882937
Can it really be called alive when it relies on P2W? I was told that you NEED the gacha to be good. I miss my little goblin with two spears.
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>>383882830
Space suit was my favorite before all the swimsuit stuff came out.

Sucked u had to pay to get the cool colors
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>>383867704
This game introduced me to multiplayer shooter, great fun with friends but I remember having like 50 diferents accounts because the starting stuff was better than anything and with today's perspective, the game kinda fells sow and terrible.
>>383868145
>You will never run around with a mchete as your primary weapon in an FPS ever again
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>>383882153
I used to think this one was so fucking cool, and it still is.
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>>383881638
>>The next great e-Sport is born, becoming the "Stylish eSper Shooting Sports," or S4 League for short
Damn now I know what that S4 stood for. It's really interesting
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>>383884328
And then all the later episodes/seasons proceeded to ignore the fuck out of the lore and do their own thing.
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>Station-2
>Sniper Rifle, Turret, Breaker, Wall perk
>not a single touchdown for the enemy

Problem, fuckboy?
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>>383882507

>>383882153
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