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>He thought IS and Koei even remember who Hector is Lol

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>He thought IS and Koei even remember who Hector is

Lol
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>>383851987
what the fuck were they thinking desu, they know for a fact people actually give a shit about characters before Fire Emblem 13, so why the fuck has there not been a single character from an earlier FE game that isn't Ike and the obligatory Marth?
>"We don't want to add too many sword users!"
>all but 2 characters so far use swords
Get your shit together.
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>>383852275

>Top five males in the popularity poll are characters from before Awakening
>"Lel let's not put any of them and instad add Awakening waifus"

Fucking hell IS, I wouldn't be so outraged if you simply came out clean and turned Fire Emblem into a full dating simulator"
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Wasn't even going to play this game anyway fuck you ISIS
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>>383851987
>best girl Lissa is playable
>and she's got her huge battle axe

I wasn't interested in this game before, but now I am.
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>>383852591
They had to make room for their 3 donut steel sword lords
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>>383851987
Who gives a fuck about Hector
It should have been Charlotte.
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>>383852275
>IS
>getting their shit together after New Emblem
Ah, is funny joke, ja.
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>IS still thinks that Fates and Awakening were successful because of waifushit
>not because they were the Fire Emblem games that fans had been asking for for fucking years
seriously IS how hard is it for you to understand

you intentionally made Awakening a fucking fanservice game, with every single feature people had been asking for in it. class changes, child units, robust support systems, transforming units, a fucking playable tactician class

and wow amazing it sold well

you gave the fans what they wanted and it sold well

that's the reason this stupid series is still alive, not because of the fucking derivative and generic waifus
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>>383852756
Mah nigga.
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>>383853243
>IS still thinks that Fates and Awakening were successful because of waifushit
But that's exactly the reason why it was successful, hell, most people refused to buy Echoes because it didn't have the dating sim aspects
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>>383853253
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>No Ike
>No Hector
>No Ephraim
>No Black Knight Lu Bu that I should not pursue, it's probably gonna be some OC instead

Every year is another disappointment. I must be a masochist to still follow announcements.
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>>383853243

Waifushit saved Fire Emblem.

Anyone know how Echoes sold? I'm assuming like shit because you couldn't bone anyone.
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Did Echoes flopping kill the remake subseries or are we getting FE4 next?
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>a lot of people like Hector because he's an axe user of royal blood. People love his functions and those functions are not lost with Lissa
>like Minerva? Camilla is Minerva_Function
>Like Ike? Gregor_Function
>Cain and Abel? Have Sully_Function and Stahl_Function
>Archers of any kind? You only need Takumi_Function
>Popular lord? Have Lucina_Function
>You want a mage? Robin_Function
>You liked Camus and he's in Shadow Dragon? While he's not a Camus_Function, Xander_Function is better anyway

LITERALLY THE MVCI OF NINTENDO.
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Hector was shit, dumb meme character, a blind barbarian with 0 luck, Eliwood was always the better lord.
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>>383853737
They'd do Thracia first because they don't actually want them to sell.
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>>383853950
shut up roy nobody asked you
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>>383853749
Gregor and Sully aren't going to be in.
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>>383853737
maybe they should have remade the good games to begin with instead of garbage ass gaiden if they wanted sales
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>>383853950
At least Hector could do damage. Eliwood would hit things for pitiful damage and then couldn't double them.
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>>383852591
Using that poll to judge is pretty pointless, since I'd bet a large portion of people who only liked/played Awakening/Fates didn't even participate in it. Mostly the hardcore fans, which means older ones.

Even though Lyn got the top female spot, in reality Lucina is still more popular and well-known than her. They probably know that, and so despite the poll they pick Fates/Awakening characters over older ones anyway.
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>>383854285
Fuck you I liked it even if most Celica maps are hot dogshit.

I was doing that slog of Duma Tower, finishes the third stair battle and my game popped out of the 3DS. Pissed I have to do that bullshit again.

>DUDE NECRODRAGONS AND DREAD FIGHTERS LMAO
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>>383854145
That's not the point
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>>383851987
>no Hector
>no ike
At this point they are just spitting on the fandom laughing at us for being attached to the old fire emblem
>>383853950
Eliwood fags are a thing
Do you not remember having to carry his ass
Lyn and Hector were leagues better and more useable
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>>383853737

Echoes didn't flop. It sold modestly yes, but that's expected when it didn't have a marketing budget to start with. Awakening and Fates had MASSIVE marketing budgets in comparison.
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>>383854694
Lyn is bottom 3 lord trash right there with Roy
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>>383853353
I'd bet more people didn't buy Echos since it was a remake rather than a brand new game and it's also a remake of one of the least-liked games in the series.
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>>383851987
Man, I was just annoyed at first but then I opened the thumbnail to see that smug fucking face wielding an axe
FUCK YOU LISSA THE AXE SPOT WAS FOR HECTOR, YOU AREN'T EVEN THE MAIN WAIFU OF YOUR GAME
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>>383854694
Not him, but Eliwood has some great ass sprites, and you can't really not use him iirc
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>>383854694
>Lyn
>usable
Let's not lie now, Hector is the only lord worth a damn.
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>>383851987
I was so excited for this game and seeing Hector in glorious 3D after he got robbed of being in Smash. You'd think they'd put in someone predictable like Ike.

fuck Awakening and Fates. No Hector, no buy
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>>383854508
Hector can't hit anything with his 0 skill and with his 0 ss and luck anything could crit him, I always hated him.
All axe users must die.
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>cute
>funny
>endearing
>emotional
>has a good kid
>has closure with said good kid
>has luck stats
>doesn't die to a magical breeze
>cute
Hector is literally none of this, we're at a net gain here people. 7grandpas will get their chance in the DLC packs.
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>>383855229
They'll sell him and Lyn as DLC. Maybe they'll add Nergal or Dorcas with them.
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>>383851987
>We don't want to put in characters from all the games becasue then they'd all be sword users
>98% of the characters are sword users
They're making it really hard not to hate nuFE with how much they ignore everything that isn't Awakening, Marth, or Fates.
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>>383851987
What's the full roster? Is best boy Henry in? Or Japanese Nihilism Cleric from worse game?
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>>383854835
At least Roy's Rapier is somewhat useful for the dealing with early game cavalry spam in FE6. Effective damage is dogshit in the American version of FE7 (double might instead of triple) so Lyn doesn't even have that going for her.
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>Lissa SFM will soon be a thing
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>>383855428
Shit, even Marth is getting the short end of the stick. He's literally the only non-Awakening/Fates character we've seen besides the two donut steels. I doubt anymore Shadow Dragon characters besides maybe Caeda will be joining Marth.
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>>383855360
>>has a good kid
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>wanting Hector
>not the strongest and most beautiful who killed his ugly cuck ass
Blazing Blade queers make me want to vomit.
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But what about best daughteru
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http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem_Warriors

This is the roster so far. I don't know whether to laugh or vomit.
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>>383851987
I got Frederick so I'm happy about that at least. I do want Hector and a bunch of other characters, though.
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>>383855707
I can see Caeda, Minerva, Navarre, Ogma, Camus, and Merric as possible. MAAAAAAYBE 3 Whitewings just for Triangle Attack but probably not
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>The only characters I wanted from Awakening/Shadow Dragon were Walmart and Hardin
>Neither of them will most likely be in the base game
>Walmart will be lucky to get sold as DLC
Here's hoping for Camus.
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>GBA babies, Tellius cucks and Jugdral grandpas will never stop being anally annihilated
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>>383851987
>Well over a few dozen axe users from all across the franchise, including fan favorites like Hector
>"Nah, fuck it, just give Lissa an axe"

First Fates, then Echoes, now this trash. I might as well just drop the series now.
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>>383856065
B-but NUNSWITHAXES
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Wtf I hate lissa now
seriously though they should've added awakening to the title if they're do it like this, I don't even hate lissa, I like her but they're ignoring some great candidates for the game
>>383855360
Hector has the best kid silly
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>>383855428
>We don't want to put in characters from all the games becasue then they'd all be sword users
>make 3 OC donuts with swords
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>>383855875
>>383855959
>Maria
>Minerva
Can we complete the triangle?
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>>383851987
>hype went from 11 to 0

well done
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WELCOME TO INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS WE MAKE GAMES I THINK?

WHAT THE FUCK IS A HECTOR?
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>>383855707
That's why I said marth and not Shadow Dragon/Archanea games
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They said they were only going to use guys from Fates/Awakening/Shadow Dragon did they not?
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>>383856057
>Corrincuck
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>>383856232
He's kind of a cunt, let's not.
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Reveals when?
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>>383851987
Do people even use War cleric Lissa? Or War cleric anything?
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>>383856057
What are you laughing over? If you want a good strategy game, go play Dwarf Fortress or X-COM
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>>383851987
>even awakeningfags aren't defending this
Ya fucked up IS
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>>383856449
>worst daughter, only-good-as-a-prince, and meme son
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>>383852275

>Their response: there'd be too many swordsmen
>their game development: a shit ton of swordmen but mainly from awakening and fates
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>>383856531
Even in Awakening there are better fucking choices for axe users.
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>>383856449
Reminder if Severa and Laslow gets in then the whole theory about that one bitch is true
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>>383856057
I'm a Tellius cuck, I'm only here to laugh at all the ass ravaged fans being hyped for a musou in the first place. Dumb fucks.
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I could deal with Shadow Dragon/Awakening/Fates only if they PUT IN SOME CHARACTERS THAT AREN'T THE FUCKING BORING ASS MAIN CHARACTERS
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nothing about his game looks good
>graphics suck
>roster sucks
>original characters suck
>story sucks
>the "friendship is magic" dialogue sucks
>game has to accommodate the 3DS, which sucks

I was excited but it honestly looks shit
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How naive we were then.
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>>383856449
That will be a horrible day. It's going to happen, too, unfortunately. i want to be wrong so badly
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>>383856447
Michalis is cute! Not cunt!
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>>383856686

WISH THAT I COULD TURN BACK TIME-
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>>383856475
Yes, it's fun seeing Lissa fucking shit up with an axe.
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>Sigurd and his kin will never get the respect they deserve.
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>>383851987
They don't give a shit. They just want to cash in on people who started with the 3ds games
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>>383852756
My brother.
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>>383851987
>No Hector/Lyn/Elibe characters
>No Ike/Tellius characters
>No Ephraim/Magvel characters
>Literally just Awakening + Fates with a few Akaneia characters on the side
mfw I'm absolutely happy with these decisions so far
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>>383856820

>Sigurd will forever fade into obscurity because of IS
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>>383852591
Popularity polls are almost always dominated by smashfags was surprised hector made 3. Chrom was number 4 though.

Roy coming in at number 2 just further shows how many people like a character because they are in smash. Roy is one of the worst lords in the series, mediocre unit, very boring cookie cutter lord personality. FE6 is also one of the weakest games in the series ignoring the pre-GBA games. Anyone who's actually played FE6 would never vote for Roy.
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>>383856449
I unironically want this

I just want ANY side characters at this point, I don't even care who they are
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Kellam's gameplay is pretty good though.
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>When it comes to Lucina, she was described as fighting as a typical sword user
>Frederick was also present in the demo as a boss, and his moves were noted as being “what you’d expect from a cavalier with an axe.”
wow, sounds exciting
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>>383856963
>Sigurd didn't even become an awakening DLC character
>Ellincia did
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>>383856820

People will never be ready for someone as fabulous as him.
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>>383856686
kek it hurts
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Characters except marth, before Awakening, do not matter. Get this through your skulls
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>>383856974

Hush, you'll summon the wall jumper.
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>>383851987
I don't get it, what's wrong with representing an entire franchise in a crossover over the most popular games, look at FF, everytime there's a crossover (Dissidia, Worlds etc.) there's charactes from pretty much every main game
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post yfw your favorite franchise became a waifu pandering factory
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>>383857036
Because his son, the actual main character, got in. Sigurd is just some dumb cuck that got roasted.
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This game should be barbecued into oblivion
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>>383856989
Who?
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>>383856942
>I'm happy with getting shitty Fates and Awakening characters
>I'm happy with most of the franchise getting ignored
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>>383857150
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>>383856974

I hate how they fucked that poll with characters having multiple slots for their multiple games, thus splitting votes such as with that Ike.
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>>383857174
What about Eliwood and Hector?
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>>383857267
yeah, that was dumb as all hell
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>>383852275
desu the reason is that the poll was made after the game's development. bad luck on our part.
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>>383856820
>FE4 fanbase is still fucking huge in japan, so IS has every reason to pander to them
>jugdral games are still the most ignored games in the series
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>>383856974
I've played FE6 and just now realized I can't remember a single trait about Roy except for "promotes really late and gets a broken weapon"
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>>383857150
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I'm beyond mad. Holy shit IS, why do you hold your series with such contempt?
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>>383856627
what one bitch theory
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>>383857396
Meant I've played it twice
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>>383856974
FE6 being mildly shitty is what makes it memorable and fun though
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>>383853243

The reason Advance Wars is dead is because IS doesn't see any waifu potential in it.

So yeah, they're retarded.
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>>383856361
No. They said most of the characters would be from those games.

The only other things of note about what they've said about the roster are that:

1. It'll have the largest initial cast of any warriors game (so possibly 20 to start with)
2. That it won't just be a collective feature of all the lords in the series because then there would be too many sword users.
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>>383857174

DELET THIS
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>>383857454
Because the world does

The higher powers must hate IS with the luck they've had over the years with release timing.
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>>383857150
FE is fujo trash now, not waifu pandering factory.
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>>383857104
You obviously don't get it since that isn't why fe fe fans are upset
They picked a side character for the roster who is a healer mind you to wield an axe instead of the classic fan favorites or characters who actually use axes by default (look at the popularity poll if you don't believe me)
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>>383857549
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>>383857293
I don't know, ask IS. Just stating the reason Sigurd gets ignored is because it's been like that from the start.
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>>383857396
roy is the most function-like lord
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>>383857150
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>>383857523
That's the reason they're not reviving it, but it isn't the reason its dead. That would be 9/11 happening the day after its release killing whatever chance it had in Japan.
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>>383856686
My waifu is in it, so I can pretend the game is good.
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>>383852275
>'We don't want too many sword users'
>'We will make our two original characters the MOST GENERIC SWORD USERS SO FAR'
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>>383851987
The fact Ike isn't in the game despite winning multiple polls and being by far the top voted male and appearing in the top 5 twice means they just don't give a fuck. IS is fucking retarded SMT x FE proved that this is just the confirmation of it.
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No incest twins, no buy
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>>383857653
>two original characters

there are three OC sword users
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>my boy will never get the recognition he deserves

it's OK I'm used to being let down
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>>383857579
Yeah, honestly, I think the 3DS axe fighters are actually the best pool of axe users to be drawing from. Besides Hector, of course. And Dorcas for the memes. I think Charlotte, Rinkah, Arthur, and maybe Vaike are the best fighters in terms of moveset and fun potential.

But they went with Lissa and Frederick, and I wouldn't be surprised if that its for axes, along with Camilla and and maybe Minerva.
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fuck IS
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Why does the west care so much about the past? You don't see 2ch bitching about the characters included. Move on.
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>>383857104
Didn't every main character get into Dissidia, though? It's been forever since I played the first two games but I thought every game was represented by its mc.
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>>383851987
Worse roster than Marvel Infinite. Kinda impressive, actually.
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I miss Light Magic
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Will this game bomb like TMS?
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>>383857462
Some new bitch at IS is being a bitch and forcing her ideas into development when she doesn't even like FE
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>>383857898
A glass is always full because there's air.
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How mad would /v/ be if this was the complete FE Warriors roster plus the inevitable DLCs?

>OCs that nobody gives a fuck about

>Shadow Dragon
Marth - Sword lord
Caeda - Sword/Spear Peg Knight
Minerva - Axe/Spear Wyvern Rider
Tiki - Dragon
Linde - Magic
Camus - Lance Cavalier.
Wrys - Magic/Staff

>Awakening
Chrom - Sword lord
Lucina - ISIS's Lightning still cute though
Lissa - Staff/Axe
Frederick - Axe Cavalier
Robin - Magic
Owain - Sword/Magic
Validar - Dark Magic
Aversa - Magic/Spear Pegasus Knight

>Fates
Xander - Sword Cavalier
Ryoma - Swordmaster
Corrin - Dragon/Sword
Camilla - Axe/Magic Wyvern Rider
Prince Hinoka - Lance/Bow Pegasus Knight
Takumi - Archer
Leo - Magic Cavalier
Azura - Lance/Dancing
Garon - Axe/Ooze-monster

>DLC Pack 1: Blazing Sword
Hector - Axe
Lyn - Sword/Bow
Ninian - Dragon

>DLC Pack 2: Radiant Dawn
Ike - sword
Micaiah - Light Magic
Tibarn - Giant Bird Man

>DLC Pack 3: Shadows of Valentia
Alm - Sword
Celica - Sword/Magic

>DLC Pack 4: Sacred Stones
Ephraim -Lance
Eirika - Sword
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>>383854694
>Not arena abusing
that's your problem
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>>383853353
I didn't buy echoes because Fates' story was fucking garbage and I didn't have faith in them doing what looks like a story focused game immediately after. I didn't even buy revelations, and I wouldn't have bought birthright if I didn't get it half off with conquest.

Is echoes even good? I keep hearing complaining about Dread Fighters being the only good units or something like that
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>>383857757
I read a rant where anon called this "celebration of the series" SMTxFE levels of bullshit. Will Warriors finally open up the fanbase's eyes, or has the birthrate over there fallen so low, they're considered a lost cause?
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>>383857967
Every MC + a few fan favorite characters like Yuna, Tifa, Kain, Laguna, etc.
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>>383858030
>Wrys
>Over Bantu
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>>383858047
....

You are the problem, anon
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>>383857810
Well fuck me
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>>383857898
2ch doesn't care because FE7-10 aren't as popular there as they are in the west and they don't have anywhere near the stigma about Awakening and Fates that certain western fans do. Bitching about the warriors roster is purely a western thing by the vocal minority of the FE fanbase.
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>see this
>get mad
>start trying to understand why
>just keep getting angrier
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>>383858030

DON'T FUCKING JYNX IT
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>>383858030
Eh, not as bad as you might think considering your list somewhat follows what Hyrule Warriors did which is to say inaccurate as fuck considering this is IS we're talking about
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>>383858083
The cunt at E3 said the "it's a celebration of the series" shit
Yeah because FE1/3/13/14 are the series fucking asshole.
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>>383858146
So echoes is good?
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>>383858020
Oh that thread. If she really is forcing her ideas, the other people would shut her down. We have interviews from IS that suggest the developers are divided and have arguments as to what should be in or not. Blaming it on one person is way oversimplifying it.
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>>383857150
>tfw TMS#FE is a legitimately good game
>tfw it will be hated forever because it's not what people expected and didn't use the premise to its full potential
>also it's on the wii u
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>>383858201
I have heard differently actually. Not that I read moon, so I wouldn't know who's right.
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>>383858242
>TFW I wrote down this roster before E3 knowing it would just be those three games at launch and have been right with all of the characters and how they'd function.

>>383858307
The maps aren't anything to write home about, but pretty much everything else is good.
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>>383858326
If they had never shown that teaser I might have given it a chance but being teased that and then getting some fucking idol shit is a slap in the face.
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>>383858047
>Is echoes even good?
If you're interested in playing a mediocre RPG with even more casualized gameplay than the mobile Fire Emblem game with a story worse than Awakening and some of the most poorly developed and dull characters in the series, then you'll enjoy it.

Otherwise just listen to the OST on you tube.
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>>383858326
it deserved to fail even if it is a good game.
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>>383858434
Oh yeah, definitely. This is what Nintendo deserves for deceiving everyone's expectations
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>>383858423
This.
What the flying fuck were they NOT thinking?
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>>383858423
I just don't understand why some people have such a raging hateboner for idols

Like calm down nigga there's nothing g wrong with being a pop singer
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>have 14 games worth of characters
>only use two games + obligatory marth
Such a disgusting waste of potential. Everyone responsible needs to kill themselves. I just hope they remake 4 and 5.
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>>383858030
Something I do hope is that they make a DLC pack for the Heroes OCs. In all honestly, I'd rather have them as the OCs of this game but I think a DLC pack for them could work.

Alphonse, Sharena, and Anna would all make great additions, and they could even throw in Veronica and Bruno for more variety. On top of that, they all could even get new promotion classes for added variety. With Al and 'Rena, I mostly see them as Ike and Lucina Lite, but they can do literally anything with Anna.
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>>383858030
>Implying any non-Awakening/Fates character will be DLC

Gotta save those Tellius and Jugdral fellows for the second game, goy. Don't forget to buy the season pass now to unlock Anna and the Summer Scramble costume pack.
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>>383858647
they're kind of not though. weird culture around them. i guess its just celebrity culture taken to eleven though.
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>>383858647
It's not even about the idol shit it's about what was teased compared to what we got. How do you go teasing all the characters from two great series to #FE?
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>Robin/Lucina get in Smash
>Roy DLC shows him off more as a Melee character than a FE character
>Corrin gets added as DLC
>TMS
>Chrom/Lucina in Project X Zone
>Heroes mostly has Fates/Awakening Characters
>Every heroes costume banner as at least 2 Awakening/fates units, xmas banner confirmed to have 2 more
How are you guys surprised by this?
I agree, it fucking sucks, but every one of you should have seen this coming from a mile away.
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>>383857229
I like the 3ds characters and no one really cares about the pre-3ds ones aside from smash trio. They'd be smart to just use 3ds only
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>expect this game to be FIRE EMBLEM AWAKENING/FATES MUSO FT. MARTH/IKE/ROY
>its looking to be exactly that

all i want is to fucking decimate armies as Haar, is that so much to ask?
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>>383858030
This is exactly what I'm expecting, but with less shadow dragon, and Tharja being in the initial line up.
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I don't like the character models.

Anyone else feel this way? I was going to make this my warriors game to get but I think I might just get the Zelda ones instead.
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>>383858834
Have you not been reading the thread?
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>>383858326
It's not a good game
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>>383858928
I like the character models. The look like the models from the cut scenes in Awakening/Fates.
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>>383857898
>>383858201
Hector and ike placed top 3 while Chrom the main husbando forced on you in awakening (which saved the franchise) is only 4th
I honestly think it's not just a vocal minority, neither is it just the west who cares
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In hindsight I was a complete idiot for not going with Lissa my playthrough.
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>>383858030
You know they are gonna add Tharja
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>>383859056
I wonder if the next mainline game will look anywhere that good.
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>>383858030
Wow anon, how did you get a leak of the final roster?
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It's bizarre too because if you look at game popularity polls in Japan some of the highest are pre Awakening, and even pre 7. It's like they're making it entirely to appeal to the west.
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>>383851987
>everyone complains about having a shitload of sword users
>two (2) axe users gets revealed
>hectorfags are literally shaking
We don't know the whole roster yet and even if we did you'd still be retarded for expecting Hector when Lynfags memed her into being the main character of 7.
Faggot couldn't even get into Awakening DLC.
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>>383859074
crumb is honestly just a really forgettable lord, halfway through he's completely overshadowed by robin
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>>383858820
>from two great series
>FE
That's debatable given it's current state, and I wouldn't call SMT great, it's more along the lines of good.
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>>383859093
I went Emmeryn

ULTIMATE MAGICAL POWER
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>>383858313
Can I get a TL;DR/Redpill on this/one bitch theory in general. Sounds interesting.
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>>383858307
Character designs and the OST is good. Dungeon-traversing is fun yet a bit repetitive. Also gameplay is a bit disappointing with almost no other victory conditions than routing the enemy. As much as I liked the game, I wouldn't recommend this unless you're just buying it for completing your FE collection.
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>>383859314
Came out of college, loved Severa and Inigo so much, once she got promoted to developer or something after helping with Awakening (her first project), she managed to get them in Fates. Also some other rumor that she's the reason why the difficulty is lower than usual
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>>383858647
>Two niche franchises with fairly devoted fanbases
>One is a dark series of RPGs which can best be described as mythological post-apocalypse cyberpunk
>The other is a medieval TBS with dragons, knights, sorcery, and other fantasy staples
>Their crossover game is a bright and colorful RPG centered around modern day Japanese Pop idols


I don't even mind the idol stuff on its own. If it was a completely unrelated game I might have given it a shot, but it is so not what anyone wanted when they heard SMTxFE alongside that teaser trailer. I don't know what kind of reception they were expecting to get with such a drastic tone shift
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>>383851987
>ywn never get axed accidentally by a cute blonde little sister that will then heal your wound
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>>383859074
Ike is extremely popular everywhere because of Smash (and the chances of him not being in the game is likely zero given that he has an amiibo) and characters like Hector probably did well for the same reason Lyn did i.e. lots of votes from western fans (as we know Lucina got much more votes in Japan than Lyn did).

Select few characters doing better than others doesn't signify that those games were more popular. If you looked at how well all the characters from their respective games did in the poll as a whole the rankings ended up being:

Awakening > Fates > Tellius > Elibe > Archanea > Magvel > Jugdral > Valentia
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>>383859524
What the hell? Does anyone know who it is?
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>I wish that Fire Emblem would be the next Warriors collaboration.
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>>383859564
>you will never watch Lissa rip and tear across the battlefield with her huge axe
Why even live?
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>>383859646
I hear Her name Is Ray Magini
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>>383859524
how many people did she fuck to be able to pull of this shit?
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FE warriors and Mario Rabbits make me more impressive than Real Nintendo games on switch
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>tfw nobody can make SFM porn of your FE waif
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>>383852275
Ephraim, Hector, the bitch from Radiant Dawn. There, I did IS's homework and gave them 3 main characters from the older games who don't use swords.

It's like they thoughts Echoes would make oldfags forget everything and be content with their favorite franchise being desecrated for another few years.
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>>383859646
Nami Komoru. I think its grasping for straws though. We have interviews that give pretty candid insight into IS's development process, and nothing suggests there's some worm woman insidiously undermining old school FE.

https://kantopia.wordpress.com/2017/05/28/fire-emblem-awakening-nintendo-dream-first-year-anniversary-developer-interview-june-2013/
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Good thing I'm getting Musou Stars instead
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>>383859646
It's complete bullshit and is just a witch hunt aimed at one developer on a team of developers (hence why the original post where it came from tried to praise Echoes as being a good game that brings the series back to it's roots despite the fact that Gaiden/Echoes were never like any other game in the series). There's no evidence to suggest that she's some recent college grad as the original copy pasta stated, and the argument about difficulty is a moot point considering IS was still able to make Conquest.
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>we'll be seeing Lissa SFM soon
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>>383860046
I bet only 20% of all of Fates's sales were from Conquest
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>>383860303
Birthright barely sold better than Conquest. If you're only looking at the sales of those two games, the spread is probably something like BR 53% CQ 47%.
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>>383859953
>favorite franchise being desecrated
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I'm happy if my waifu Celica makes it to the game.
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>game will run like shit in handheld mode
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>Awakening saved the series! Waifus saved the series!
Advertising the fucking games saved the series.
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>>383851987
W-wait wtf
what the actual fuck holy shit no fuckin way
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>>383857653
I'm fine if at least they promote into - wait fuck this game doesn't have promotion does it

You know, the absolute best thing they could do for this game would be to make a bunch of "generic" movesets and put in a bunch of characters that way. Like have a single "Swordmaster" moveset and include Navarre, Guy, Lyn, whatever. Like they did with Awakening.
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>>383856820
His silver sword would be busted, though
>FE4 weapons track kills
>when they get 50 kills they gain Critical and gain additional crit for each kill after

>You can kill 100~ Musou soldiers in about 2 attacks
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>>383859965
yeah, that entire thing sounds like an unfounded autism-fest
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>>383852275
Everyone keeps bringing up the too many sword users thing, but then the complaint loops back into "so add more sword users"

Like, they were never NOT going to have the sword users that are currently in the game. The solution to that isn't add Alm, Sigurd, Seliph, Leif, Roy, Eliwood, Lyn, Eirika, and Ike.
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>>383851987
Lissa is a shit War Cleric, though. She has so little STR that she won't even scratch most enemies with a bronze axe. You'd need to have her hit mages and archers for any results.

I mean, good to see her in the game, but swinging around an axe is probably the worst way of doing it.
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>>383851987
I'm gonna buy a Switch solely for Lissa.
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>>383861305
They confirmed that they do have promotion in the game and that it'll have some visual changes to go with it.
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>>383861464
That's why you give her a magic axe.
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>>383856974
I like 6 more than 7, just cause Roy is boring doesn't make the rest of the cast any less great.
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>>383853737
the team behind Echoes said they would want to do 6 next
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>>383861447
No, the complaint loops into "add the literally 3 or so non-sword main characters the franchise has had in it's 20 years of releasing games". It's one thing to prioritize new characters for heavily contested niches, it's idiotic not to look to older games for niches that aren't competitive though. How many armored magic users have there been in the franchise? You can add fan favorites and keep the Merchandising Mainstays without overlap.
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>>383856974
I'll never get tired of /v/ being triggered by Roy's popularity. He'll always be more well known and more well liked than Sigurd and Hector. Stay mad.
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>>383861060

They also gave it a major revamp to bring it into [current year] and improved its presentation drastically. It's sad that a 3DS game looks better than a Gamecube game

I'd say that Sacred Stones smashed the momentum of the franchise in the west after Smash and FE7. Why? Because it was an inferior copy of FE7, lazily shat out. It could have been a FE7 mod. That was the real disease that was killing Fire Emblem: I don't know whether it was publishers, the devs, or both, but either way, someone important just didn't care about the product.

>waifus saved the series

Moving the franchise from 1990s anime to 2010s anime was an important part of improving the product's presentation, yes.
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>>383858326
>teaser features hector, lynn, ike and others
>none of them are used
>fucking tharja made it in
it deserve it to flop

also the fact patching to de censor the game requires being a jr programmer is fucking bullshit
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>>383862002
I hope at least they'll make 6 and 7 in one game.
Shit like Mark turned into a MU tactician and marriage is a given.
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>>383862083
That's stupid. It's a fanservice game, most of the fans aren't going to give two shits about someone just because they're an "armored mage", they're going to care because they're from a game they like and they like that character.
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>>383861617
>magic axe
>at E rank weapon skill
Sure.
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>>383859524
>the difficulty is lower than usual
so she had nothing to do with Conquest, eh?
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>>383862156
It was FE11 that did, at least for the West. In Japan it was the Tellius games for some reason.

While FE8 did badly, it was because it was released late on the gameboy.
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>>383852756
Fellow Lissabro

Waifu aside though, I am actually put off by the roster so far and probably won't play it depending on how it turns out. And currently I have no desire to play this game.
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FULL ROSTER JUST LEAKED HOLY SHIT
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Fire_Emblem_Awakening
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>>383856731
I'VE BEEN A FOOL TO MYSELF
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NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>383862338
>Fanservice game
>fans aren't going to give two shits about someone because they look cool
Literally how FE broke into the West. This shithead gets tons of art now because he's memorable for his inclusion in a mobile game. You give characters exposure, people will like them.
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>>383862775
you missed a bit
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Fire_Emblem_Fates
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>>383862981
Yeah, you give people exposure in a free to play mobile game and make them overpowered in it and they'll get memes.

A $60 fanservice crossover is not the place for promotion. It's the place for fanservice.
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>>383861447
No shit. FE lords are disproportionately sword users. The gripe is with them compounding the sword problem by adding THREE (3) shitty OC swords.
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You guys know the roster was decided before the poll right? 0
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>>383863609
I look forward to seeing who the lowest ranked playable character is.
>ISys in charge of knowing which characters their fanbase cares about
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>>383862338
Its possible to do a fanservice game without that though. Personally, I'd have loved Warriors to be a bit more like Heroes, where older characters like Reinhardt and Julia got new fans because of it. Like Dissidia.
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>>383863884
IS has had weird ideas about popularity. They thought Flavia would be a popular girl. And I think they were surprised by Lyn as well.
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I still think they should have with a skins idea some anons suggested. It wouldn't be that hard to do. You wouldn't even have to make a new moveset for them. Oh well. I expect some older FE characters to be DLC like HW at some point as well.
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>>383864176
But then they don't get any dialogue or their own scenes or any interaction with the other characters
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>>383864297
After knowing this roster so far. I think that's only a small price to pay in the end.

Just give them a few special dialog bits.
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>>383864176
I imagine that would be the best compromise. Make skin and voice packs as DLC for different characters.

For example, they can create packs for Fredrick to represent the various mounted retainers like Seth, Titania, and Gunter.

But chances are they'll probably just make the majority of them Lucina packs such as Bikini Lucina, Bride Lucina, """Marth""", etc
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>>383863974
>Owain will just be a one-off gimmick character -IS
I'm curious if the poll will affect their future decisions regarding the franchise.

>>383864176
I was thinking taking advantages of archetypes would be a good way to go about it
>Abel and Cain are in as sword and lance cav movesets
>some skins included at launch ie Stahl and Sully
>new character packs come with 'companion skins' so you can deploy characters with their allies ie you buy the Blazing Blade - Lyn's Story pack and it comes with Lyn (new character) and Sain/Kent/Florina skins for Cain/Abel/Caeda etc
>skins have new voice lines but share most animations
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