What's the better stealth game?

Splinter Cell has far far better stealth mechanics but MGS are the better games.

Based solely on stealth mechanics Chaos Theory is a literal masterpiece leagues ahead of anything MGS ever attempted.

Thief

Why does Fisher need that third eye?

Considering mgsv is splintercell lite then splntercell is a better stealth game.

Metal gear is after all stealth action arcade. Which clearly defines it as a different beast.

>>383846021
Only two SP games were good. Chaos theory is the best stealth game but Metal Gear is a better series

>>383846120
>Splinter cell is a better stealth game but MGS is the better game
incorrect
>>383846514
this

>>383847679
>2 4 and 5
>good
>inb4 muh meta narrative

>>383847293
So he can switch between thermo and nvg.

>>383846021
Neither, depends on if you want more realistic slow approach or arcade action stealth. Anybody that says one is better than the other is an idiot, you're just arguing opinions. patrician taste is liking both for their differences

>>383847293
>night vision
>thermal vision
>emf

now gtfo millennial

>>383846021
In Splinter Cell you will constantly shoot out lights that somehow guards won't even hear go out.

MGS may be more wacky arcade like stealth but at least its silliness is more forgivable because of it.

So MGS wins. Splinter Cell is and always will be shit.

>>383848161
didn't you quit Konami kojima?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrvEWWYLDHM

>>383846021

>Fisher

The smooth buttery tones of Michael Ironside

>Snake

The tryhard gravel of some fucking tool who can't act

>>383848161
>when metal gear solid does it it's good and when splinter cell does it its bad
metal gay shitters need to be gassed

>>383846120
>mgs
>good
pick one

>>383848451
>>383846021
>constant discussion on /v/
>constantly praised by critics and fans
>metacritic scores usually in the 90's
>meanwhile another series is essentially forgotten

Is this even a fair contest?

>>383846021
Splinter Cell, no competition.

>>383846021
>a series of movies and a series of games
Gee I wonder

bobby fischer

>>383848595
>ad populum
Off yourself retard

Splinter Cell

>>383848595
>any of those things mean the games are good
who gives a shit if /v/ discusses it /v/ discusses borderlands occasionally in a positive light as well

>>383848595
Does a pile of shit taste good because it's surrounded by flies?

stealth: chaos theory>mgs3>pandora tommorow>mgs2>splintercell>mgs1
overall quality:mgs2>mgs3=1>ct>pt>splintercell

>>383848750
>>383848779
Alright retards I'm tired of seeing these shit contrarian opinions. Tell me this faggots.

How many Splinter Cell threads have you seen in the past month vs how many MGS threads there are? Certain games/series have essentially become completely forgotten or just were never was's. In Splinter Cell's case it has been forgotten about. People just don't care anymore. It was a product of its time. If it truly was great it would get way more discussion.

There are tons of lesser popular games getting way more discussion here than Splinter Cell. Even polarizing games like Chrono Cross. Which is way less popular than Chrono Trigger.

>>383846120
/thread

Sly Cooper

Easily splinter cell

MGS has much more interesting characters and cutscenes, even if there are a bit much of them

MGSV > Splinter Cell pre-double agent > MGS 1-3 > The bad MGS games > The bad Splinter Cells

>>383846021
i didnt realize smash bros had a stealth mechanic

>>383849028
jesus, mgs2 that low in stealth but that high in overall quality? The story did that much for you huh?

>>383849053

>guy says you're committing a fallacy
>you prove him right by reiterating said fallacy

Are you stupid or something?

>>383849204
MGS V is on your list twice

>>383849204
Next gen Double agent is better than PT, and 1.

>>383849329
Lol funny meemee. It's a great Black ops simulator

>>383849253
tactical espionage action != stealth

>>383849053
What the fuck does that have to do with the quality of the games? Is this a popularity contest?

>>383849263
Splinter Cell was never that good. It got great reviews for its time but to see it get so little discussion tells me it was pretty damn overrated in its day. Even overrated games like FFVII get discussed a lot. Not Splinter Shit though. Almost zero discussion. Wow great game there...

>>383849459
>...

you have to go back

>>383849053
>how many splinter cell threads have you seen in the past month
who gives a shit metal gear is overrated. It's remembered because it tries to be deep yet has silly cutscenes ie haha pooping in a metal can and long cutscenes and meta shit. saying
>b-but people liked it
is as valid as me saying people didn't like it

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LURKIN ALL THE TIME
LURKIN ALL THE TIME

>>383849363
No it's boring shit and you have shit taste if you think it's better than 4

>>383849459

>still committing the same fallacy

This is just embarrassing.

>>383849450
I thought the tactical part referred to stealth and if you're impressed by the action I have a very impressive bridge to sell you

>>383849459
People don't care nearly as much about well-designed gameplay as they'd like you to believe. The splinter-cell games were never particularly memorable in terms of story, or aesthetics so they don't get talked about. That simple.

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>>383849586

>tfw they got rid of the light meter and casualized it into "visible/invisible"

>>383849553
>>383849571
I've tried the Splinter Cell games. I've tried the first three in fact. Every single time I eventually got way too bored after a few missions in. They are boring games. Chaos Theory's knife was kind of cool I guess. Outside of that I didn't care to continue playing that shit though.

Just about everyone on /v/ loves MGS. You guys are the minority here.

>>383849904
>it didn't have muh wacky anime plot so it's shit

>>383849904
I've tried the Metal Gear games. I've tried the first three in fact. Every single time I eventually got way too bored after a few missions in. They are boring games. MGS 3s camo was kind of cool I guess. Outside of that I didn't care to continue playing that shit though.

MGS games are overrated movie games

>>383849829
The gameplay was shit to. Oh wow shoot out the lights. Oh wow guards somehow don't notice. Oh wow I'm right next to this guy how doesn't he notice? Who are you?

Factpost

>>383846203
it was good when it came out but it's horribly dated now. compared to mgs and splinter cell rn the controls are fucking garbage you dont get anything neat to work with.

get with the times old man

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I prefer the one where you hide in a cardboard box.

>>383850162
>can't even spell too
Is this definitive proof of metal gear being for brainlets?

>>383847293
To unleash his chakra.

>>383848001
Hey dumbfuck, you're a millenial.

>>383850259
>Is this definitive proof of metal gear being for brainlets?

factpost

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>>383850162

>not using EMP on the pistol

>>383850437
Hey faggot, I was born in 84. Not a millennial dumbass.

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Metal Gear Solid is one of the dullest video game franchise in the history of video games. Each game following the one eyed undercover agent and his pals from FOXHOUND as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the toilet humour, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of cutscenes, all to make the games seem like a movie, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Kojima vetoed the idea of someone talented directing the series; he made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for his other games (Death Stranding/P.T. Silent Hills). The Metal Gear series might be anti-stealth (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Splinter Cell series in its refusal of wonder, engrossing gameplay and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the writing and themes were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the themes were terrible. As I played, I noticed that every game ends with the same Anti-nuclear message.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that ending was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Kojima's mind is so governed by Hollywood action movie cliches and dead metaphors that he has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain by the same YongYea. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Metal Gear Solid at 13 or 18, then when they get older they will go on to play Call of Duty." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play "Metal Gear Solid" you are, in fact, trained to play Call of Duty.

>>383846021
splinter cell 1 is still my favorite stealth game of all time and it's a country mile ahead of any mgs game imo

>>383846021
stealth is a shit fucking genre
"OOOOH LET'S HIDE FROM THINGS INSTEAD OF FIGHTING THEM" wow fucking pussies

>>383850872
I wonder what the chances of Call of Duty being your favourite game is?

>>383851023
>not recognizing an obvious shitpost
RETARD ALERT

>>383850872
>he doesn't kill fight in a stealth game
It's harder than any of the mary sue can mowdown an army protagonist games you play
>>383850732
razor?

>>383849450
what? You know that is just a meme tagline they came up with that doesnt actually mean anything right?

If not the story or the stealth, what is left to impress you with? Surely not the gunplay or hand to hand combat. That shit is weak as fuck in mgs2

>>383850606
I used to grab stones or empty cans to break the light bulbs, emp only on the ones with protection

>>383846021
SC: stealth
MGS: tactical espionage action

>>383849204
dude mgsv's open world is fucking ass. The game has no real direction, no boss fights that mgs is known for, the sprint turns it into a fucking micheal bay movie and destroys multiplayer.

It isnt the worst game in the series, surely gameplay wise that goes to either peace walker, 1 or 2 (sorry playing any entire game through the radar isn't fucking fun) but the top of the list? Nah, 3>4>(just barely)V

>>383851386
I guess that means it's a shit stealth game

>>383849329
>i'll fit in if I hate the newest game

>>383851386
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

>>383850164
If it was good when it came out it's good now. Fuck off with this "games can age" meme, they're the same 1s and 0s they've always been.

>>383851386
MGS1-3: arcade espionage action
MGS4-V: tactical action with optional stealth

>>383852156
fucking finally someone who gets it

>>383851428
>mist skulls
>quiet
>armor skulls
>Man on fire
>Eli
>camo skulls
>Sahelanthropus

Yup. No boss fights.

>>383848161
>guards don't hear you shooting lights
You never played the game

>>383849053
Splinter cell just doesn't have a rabid Kojimacuck fan base that needs to discuss every inane detail of the nonsensical plot every day. Everyone knows chaos theory is elder gods tier, it doesn't need to be discussed.

>>383852740
Also, no waifus to discuss in Splinter Cell.

>>383846021
Tenchu > Hitman 2 > Hitman bloodmoney > syphon filter 2 > metal gear solid 4 > splintercell series > other metal gear series

>>383853539
holy fuck kill yourself

>>383851519
capture the guy 1-10
kill the guy 1-10
save the guy 1-10
kill the tanks 1-10
kill the guys with armor 1-10
kill the tanks and guys 1-10
disarm the mines 1-10

Did I miss anything? 50 missions, 10 of which are repeats of earlier ones. Half assed Motherbase that takes 10 minutes to get from one empty platform to another.

>>383853539
tenchu z was the only good tenchu game

Splinter Cell has vastly superior stealth gameplay, while MGS is plain arcade stealth. I only like MGS more because of the story to be honest.

I prefer Splinter gameplay but I like the story better on mgs

>>383853804
Pretty sure you meant Tenchu 3.

>>383853167
>who is Grimsdottir

>>383846514
Always that one guy

>>383855576
You mean that one guy who's right?

>>383850161
Mgs is top tier. Sorry. Not sorry. All stealth games will put you to sleep.

>>383855776
>replying to a one hour post in a feeble attempt to defend your favorite game series
mgs is far from top tier, friend

>>383855776
>>383855973
Also forgot to add, how can gameplay that you have to interact with put you to sleep but not literal hours of filler cutscenes

>>383846021
i like how chaos theory was so much better than mgs3 that it broke kojima's brain

id go crazy to if i got owned by ubisoft of all peopel

>>383846021
splinter cell is a way better stealth game than super smash bros brawl

>>383850631

>became an adult after the millennium

Literally a millennial.

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MGS was far more innovative but SC is mechanically the superior stealth game

>>383852156

>standard don't change with time
>dude just because this car from 1917 only has 70 horsepower doesn't mean it's slow! It was fast then it's fast today!

>>383855442
Grim might as well be a man

>>383852156
>If it was good when it came out it's good now

Silent hill and resident evil beg to differ.

>>383857149
>comparing video games with cars
why don't you just use a food analogy
video game standards are kind of shit today anyway

>>383850872
You can fight enemies in stealth games though. Big problem I have with them actually. Health meters and combat just feel like vestigial elements from action games that interfere with the way you're intended to play.

>>383850631
If you were born in the early 80's, you're still a millenial

>>383850732
this is the person who wanted every codec line to end with "OVER"

i'm pretty sure the codec is a two way device, there's no need to signal that your sentence is over