This is easily the most overrated game this year.

>my other summer bait thread failed time for another

0/10

Yeah, it's almost as if different people had different tastes

>>383836331

Explain how it's bait?

Taro couldn't even make the gameplay good with Platinum's help.

>>383836331
>>383836395

>no arguments

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>>383836245

>>383836245
agreed

sidequests were interesting but that main story + combat was dogshit

>>383836395

Are you one of those idiots who thinks overrated means outright bad?

>>383836331

You mean the thread where claims the combat were crap were made and there's yet to be a rebuttal?

Wow.

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>>383836982

>sidequest content more interesting than the main plot
>combat sucks even though Platinum worked on it

What went wrong? Honestly the only good part of the game was pic related. Even Emil's fight was an underwhelming copy/paste of another boss.

>>383837617

Taro is very hit and miss. IMO he's only had 2 hits out of maybe 5-6 misses. I also consider Automata a miss.

>>383836245
Why does every well received and good game have to be overrated to you? What exactly does overrated mean in your vocabulary?

>>383836245
Here is your (You).

>>383838116
>every well received and good game
>suddenly this game is every game

>>383836245
true all thanks to MALE FANTASY

>>383838116
>What exactly does overrated mean in your vocabulary?

It means it doesn't deserve the praise it's receiving. People are treating it like the second coming of Christ, journalists are sucking Taro's dick even though they spat at Nier and called him a dipshit because the fishing was too hard.

It doesn't even do anything new outside his typical formula, and is underwhelming compared to Nier.

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I enjoyed NieR: Automata vastly, but then I was already completely capitvated by NieR. The bleak setting has me utterly hooked.

>>383837617
It's clear they ran out of budget.

Anyone who says Automata's characters or bosses are better than the original NieR are straight up morons or baiting. Automata's gameplay at it's core was better than NieR's but the bosses were fucking terrible.

>>383836245
2nd most. most was botw

>>383838530

Completely agree. Only memorable boss was Simone, and the majority of bosses in Automata were literally balls.

>>383838303
You're right, there are absolutely no other examples of people posting a game on /v/ and calling it overrated, my bad.
>>383838453
>It means it doesn't deserve the praise it's receiving.
It does deserve most of the praise it receives.
>People are treating it like the second coming of Christ
Ignore them.
> journalists are sucking Taro's dick
Don't ever read anything a journalist writes, you're better than that, anon. You're not scum.
>It doesn't even do anything new outside his typical formula, and is underwhelming compared to Nier.
It's better in every way to Nier other than preference over the characters (I find Kaine and Emil more endearing than 2B and 9S too) but everything from world design, graphics, gameplay, and story all exceed Nier Replicant/Gestalt. This is not negotiable.

>>383836245
Na not for me, sorry you didn't like it

Yoko Taro is overrated

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>>383838671
>graphics

BARELY

>>383836245
I'd say Persona 5 is more overrated, but I don't think either is really that overrated. I haven't played HZD or BotW so I don't know if they're overrated, but those 4 are the only games this year that have been getting really high acclaim.

nice b8.

>i don't like this game so it's overrated

remember to eat my ass next time you post.

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>>383838814
I think you need to replay Gestalt. It was not a pretty game. Stylish (especially the finisher cutscenes for bosses), but not pretty.

>>383838827
Persona 5, and the Persona series as a whole, is easily the most overrated garbage ever made.

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>a main theme of the game (philosopical one) is included to try to seem deep but it's all spelled out to the player
>boring, repetitive combat, easily one of Platinum's worst
>sidequests are nearly all fetch quests or pit you against the same enemies as always
>unremarkable actual boss fights
>hard mode too hard to beat the first section wtih, easy mode too easy, game too easily broken
>no saves for an hour and PC port notorious for crashes so you can lose all of your progress like that difficulty aside
>characters' lips don't even move when they talk
>2B is a flat character personality wise
>9S' combat is even worse than 2B's
>forced to replay 95% of 2B's story as 9S with minimal changes as padding
>can get locked out of certain endings

That said the music was good but as a whole the game is nowhere near as amazing you guys make it out to be, especially considering in the same year we got Breath of the Wild.

>>383838671

>world design
>story

completely disagree here

Nier has much more variety in it, not only more towns, but cool areas like the Resident Evil style mansion. The only memorable area in Automata was the theme park. As for story, it's much better in Nier. Automata's is painfully predictable and any tweests they try pulling are completely predictable.

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>Niche game loved by a very small group of people
>gets a quality sequel raided by normies earning its fair amount of shitpost due to popularity

Whats her name /v/

>>383839021
I wouldn't say that, P5 is just overrated for how it plays it very safe. The games are fine and tend to do what they set out to do well, but it's also not for everyone.

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>>383836245
The 5 Tarodrones who praise that NA are nothing compared to the Nintenbros who shill this one. Now watch as the Nintendo tribalist calls me a Sonyfag and equates "overrated" with "irredeemable garbage".

>>383838530
I think 9S was as good as any NieR character.

>>383838983

this doesn't look much different than most low res areas in Automata

>>383839120
Nier: Automata
Fire Emblem Awakening
Persona 3, 4, and 5
Fate/Grand Order to the rest of the Nasuverse

all did this to their series

>>383839120
THIS

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>mrw

>>383839120

>anything I don't agree with is a shitpost

>>383839092
>Automata's is painfully predictable and any tweests they try pulling are completely predictable.
You've been digesting videogames for a very long time. Predictable doesn't mean bad, it simply means it doesn't go out of it's way to do unnatural, jarring things just to make your predictions incorrect.

>>383839120

This is such a crybaby response.

>>383839329
>anything I agree with is not a shitpost
I can do it too

>>383839161
haven't played either of those games but zelda looks like generic open world game

>>383839120
Pretty much every game I've ever enjoyed gets shitposted on /v/ mercilessly.

>>383839354

It just means it's weaker than Nier in that respect. The characters and story were extremely dull.

>>383836982
are you talking about Nier or The Witcher 3?

>>383838530
The bosses in NieR were just as good, or bad, I suppose. I don't think either game has many bosses that are just outright bad, the only one I really didn't like was Hegel in Automata, but they were generally just fine in both games. Also, I was really letdown by the characters in NieR, I knew nothing about them going except they were very good, and while they are quite good, they're not the amazing characters they're made out to be. They're good, great even, but both them and the characters in Automata are around the same quality, and neither game has absolutely phenomenal characters.

>>383839409

I don't, but I'm not just going to blindly call it a shitpost. I'm actually trying to counter points being made instead of whinging like you.

>>383836245
>most overrated game this year

thats hollow knight though

Yeah, no. That would be horizon Zero gameplay.

Nier Automata is top 3 of the year.

>>383839120
>>383839232
>>383839305
>niche fanbase can't take criticism so they whinge

>>383839461
Suit yourself. I found watching androids and robots fighting for falsified reasons interesting, and seeing them find out the truth and cope with it was very exciting.

>>383839306
But both NieR and Automata have happy endings. Though I think there's a novella or something that says what happens right after Ending E in Automata and it's not very happy stuff. I might be mistaken though, I haven't really looked into the side content.

>>383839602

>gameplay


Nier's gamepaly is fucking horrible, even with Platinum's contribution.

>slow useless enemeis
>you're fast as shit and have unlimited spamable dodge and can launch enemies with ease
>balancing is so broken V. Hard is straight up die in 2 hits

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>people claim the game is good
>oversexualized main character
>porn posted in every single thread
>made by platinum (known for only making cinematic games)
>5 hours of cutscenes

throw it in the trash.

>>383839620
We all know that the bigger a fanbase gets, the shittier it becomes. Souls is a prime example of it

I don't know how you can say that when breath of the wild exists, I don't know how a game so flawed got so much praise. It had one of the worst zelda soundtracks, a nonexistant story, a formulaic open world and the progression system discouraged going into combat.

>>383836245
Nah. It's the most overrated game on this board, though.

>>383839857
2B is not sexualized in the least unless you blow off her skirt, which you don't have to.

>>383839750
>NieR
>happy ending
If you had any ability to read between the lines whatsoever and piece together the fragments of Project Gestalt that the story and loading screens feed you, you'd realize that NieR ends with Nier's Replicant dooming the human race to extinction just to be with his daughter a little longer
This was easily determined long before Automata was even announced, and it made me intensely curious about how Automata was going to retcon how humans survive anyway. I was delighted when Taro played me like a damn fiddle, though.

>>383837296

The thing is, nobody ever claimed it was stellar. Even fans of the game know the balancing is fucked.

>>383836245
The more I think about Nier Automata, the less I like it. There is so much wasted potential.

>>383840014

You mean the skirt that was design for upskirting with the huge gap down the side to see her leotard?

>>383839857
>people claim the game is good
>oversexualized main character
>porn posted in every single thread
>made by platinum (known for only making cinematic games)
>5 hours of cutscenes
Thinking any of this is bad...
>anon I...

>>383840014
Anon save yourself the time and don't respond to bait

I dunno about overrated, but it certainly was underwhelming.

>>383837296
There is nothing to argue about when everything Op has to say is that he doesn't like it. I like it a lot, now what?

>>383840292

What do you like about the broken combat system in Automata?

>>383840043
I know that's how NieR ends, but humanity was fucked anyway. It was happy in the sense that Nier saved Yonah and Kainé, and I believe in Grimoire Nier he lives a swell but I never read it. Even the Shadowlord and his Yonah, and presumably the rest of the humans, get to be together int he afterlife, so they're not having a bad time of it either.

>>383840145
That's like saying Ashley is sexualized in RE4 because she's wearing a skirt. It comes with any character wearing a dress or skirt, and 2B's isn't even a particularly short dress on top of it.

>>383840045
>nobody ever claimed it was stellar.

Everyone does just because Platinum is stickered on it.

The combat system they came up with just doesn't belong in this game.

>>383839049
I literally agree with everything here. This was not a deep game and it sure as fuck shouldn't have been 40 something hours. There wasn't enough content there in the slightest.

NA is at best a 7/10.

>>383840180
>thinking any of that is bad
Not all of us want to play movies, tumblr.

>>383840396
>2B's isn't even a particularly short dress on top of it

It literally BARELY covers her ass.

Drakengard - Shit gameplay, decent story.
Drakengard 2 - Doesn't count, Taro, wasn't involved.
Drakengard 3 - Shit gameplay, shit story.
Nier - Decent gameplay, good story.
Nier Automata - good gameplay, shit story.

Taro has interesting ideas which are almost always overshadowed with adolescent bullshit. Taro may be "different" but he lacks substance in so many ways. I don't even need to argue about the gameplay, everyone knows it's shit (mainly).

>>383840493
thats because the ass is fat

>>383840528
>Nier Automata
>Shit story
Incorrect.

>>383840352
It's very fluid and experimenting with chips is fun. Attacks have a lot of kick to them, which is to be expected from a Platinum game.

>>383840493
It covers her ass just fine. The only part that shows skin is on the side.

>>383839049
>Breath of the wild
Not even a top 10 zelda game.

>>383840630

The story is predictable and boring.

No, BOTW is by far and it's an average open world game with cool grass tech.

>>383839049
>2B is a flat character personality wise
>a character I don't even try to understand is flat
You had me until that point.

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>>383836245
Anon, that's nothow you spell GOTY.

>>383840687
Actually, it's unique and fun.

>>383840664

Fluid combat wasted on clunky enemies with chips that literally break the game, because you weren't obviously OP enough.

>>383836245
>Gameplay so shit not even Platinum can save it

Good thing I pirated it.

>>383840753

It's not unique at all. It's just one faction vs another with "what is the meaning of existence" nonsense attached to make it seem deep.

>>383840396
>but humanity was fucked anyway
Project Gestalt was entering its final stage when Shadowlord got tired of waiting. It was hardly a doomed thing.
Yonah was inherently doomed, but not humanity as a whole.

>Even the Shadowlord and his Yonah, and presumably the rest of the humans, get to be together int he afterlife
Anon what afterlife do you think exists in a universe where God is real and he personally hates humans for being humans?

>>383840757
The DLC is pretty challenging if you don't overlevel. I actually got killed twice in one of the tournaments and it took me 6 tries to do the one fight without getting hit.

>>383840687
You'd must be a psychic if the story was predictable.

>>383836245
Fucking Majora's Mask has a better story and better sidequest, and it even more subtle about everything,

>>383840528
>Nier Automata
>good gameplay
Incorrect.

>>383840821
I've transcended above shitposting and have turned into pure honesty.
The story was a compelling, character driven drama about the meaning of existence of androids and robots after humanity has gone fully extinct. You won't find anything like that in another videogame, so go ahead and try to make it sound cliche.

>>383840860

>I bet there aren't even humans on the moon
>oh well there you go
>I bet Project Yorha is a farce
>oh well there you go
>I bet there's some bullshit mastermind behind everything
>oh so N2 so like Nier 2 - there you go

yawn

>>383839049
Aside from all of the critical backstory being absent from the game and 2B and A2 being stupidly underwritten with very little screentime, spelling out the point at the end of the game is my biggest gripe with the writing. Way to kill any meaningful interpretation and discourse. It just feels like a betrayal of the rest of the story, like Taro didn't trust it enough to stand alone so he has to bludgeon the audience over the head with the message.

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>>383839750
>Playing Nier
>invited to a wedding
>Emil:"Everyone seems so happy! It's so nice!"
seconds later... Bride is eaten by a wolf

Great times...

>most overrated
>not botw
Any game labeled the best thing of all time is overrated by default

>>383840951

Okay so you're just trying to sound as shill as possible. It's nowhere near as fascinating as you make it sound.

>>383840709
She is flat. Her personality has two dimensions and she's a static character.

>>383840951

You basically said what he said but sugarcoated it.

>>383839620
Where all that "criticism" was when I was playing Drakengard? Or even original Nier.
But with Automata release suddenly everyone has opinion on all Taro games at once.

>>383841183
>buzzwords, buzzwords and more buzzwords

>>383840847
If Project Gestalt succeeded then every Replicant, who had just as much value as the Gestalts, would be fucked. If it succeeded the antagonists would win and the heroes would lose, and while that would also be a happy ending in a sense, if were viewing it from the perspective of the Replicants, and we are, they got off with a pretty happy ending. And the heaven I presume exists is the one you see in Ending A and B where the Shadowlord and Yonah are having a good time.

>>383839518
I'm starting to think everything has shit combat according to /v/, except for Gothic 2 apparently

>>383841237

>implying Drakengard of all fucking games didn't get any criticism
>implying Nier didn't either

>>383841183
2E has acceptable depth to her but you don't seem to get that the emotionlessness is a facade.

>>383841283
and DMC3

>>383841321

>dude she totally isn't flat - she's been killing him the whole time
>thought we'd just throw that in there in the literal last seconds of the game because we actually forgot to give her a personality

>>383841070
It doesn't matter, Nintendo is going to get their dick sucked clear off their body for doing with Zelda what they should have done two games ago, and not even particularly well at that. No one is even remotely self-aware at how much they overrate anything with Zelda on it.

>>383841183
Confirmed for not having finished the game,

Otherwise, you'd know that >>383841321 is correct.

>>383841232
Is that worse than simplifying things in a poor attempt to make it sound cliche?
Tell me your favourite game and I'll shitpost about the plot being cliche, too. It's not difficult to be stupid.

>>383841232
They're both doing that really because neither wants to get into the minute details of why it's good or bad.

>>383841283

The combat is automata is great, it's just wasted on cannon fodder that just stands there while you hit it.

>>383841316
Not on the same level.
It was just "shit game", "shit graphics". Few people complained about Taro being "a hack", or making "fedora pandering games".

>>383841275
There weren't heroes in NieR, that was the point.
Nier's fury breaks the world in two. He's stubborn and desperate. Of course, it was his stubbornness and desperation that allowed for humanity's salvation to begin with, so it's equally fair that it spells humanity's damnation, but he's hardly heroic about it.
It's an unwittingly selfish brute stomping around destroying centuries of work for the betterment of millions because of very human but nevertheless base emotions.

>>383841283
People are comparing it to platinum's other games. The combat is actually pretty decent for an open world RPG, but it's really shit if you compare it to something like Wonderful 101 or Bayonetta.

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>>383840753
>Actually, it's unique and fun.
You have to be genuinely retarded to not understand whats going on they mention the rockets going to the moon. Thats like 15 minutes into the game.

I honestly think people impressed by Nier's story have never read a book that wasn't assigned in school. NA's storyline is like the weeboo equivalent of TLOU, if the same story was in a movie, it'd be called predictable and shallow and rightfully so.

>>383841036
Did you seriously think that was supposed to be a twist, we know from the first nier that humanity was extinct, humans not being on the moon wasn't exactly hidden. Because of that we were supposed to suspect that there was something wrong with Yorha, the game even has A2 outright tell us but I can't see how you would predict their purpose or actions. Of course there had to be something controlling the machine network, N2 just represents that. I doubt you predicted that 2b was 2e or that the machines could have killed the androids at any moment or that yorha was intended to fail.

>>383841406
>last seconds of the game

2B isn't even in the last 6-8 hours.
Confirmed for not finishing the game either.

Goddamn, did anyone criticizing the game even get the proper endings?

>>383841283
God Hand.

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>2B and 9S get to live happily ever after free from the cycle
>Pascal and his peaceful machines make peace treaty with androids
>/ourgirl/ Jackass out there hunting down everyone behind Project Yorha
>Red Girls gathered up some of their machine buds and fucked off to another planet
>A2 probably lezzing out with Anemone

GOOD ENDS ARE BEST ENDS!!!!!

>>383841406
She acts unnaturally protective of the guy she just met and is blindingly furious at the idea of anyone ever harming him. She's not cold, she just wears her persona very tightly.

>>383841639
>You have to be genuinely retarded to not understand whats going on they mention the rockets going to the moon. Thats like 15 minutes into the game.
What does that have to do with anything?

>>383836245
Overrated by who?

>>383841658

Uh, the 2E reveal was made by A2 at the end of the game.

How about you actually play the game yourself?

>>383841639
>NA's storyline is like the weeboo equivalent of TLOU
Speaking of TLOU. When I started TLOU, my first impression was "what a rip-off of Nier".

>>383841759

normies

>>383838641
>Only memorable boss was Simone
this
the demo with simone was what got me interested and what made me decide to pick it up, only to find out simone was the only fun boss
game was overall fun though, only regret was that i didn't wait for the sale

>>383840757
I was overpowered so I switched to hard.

>>383841617
They weren't heroes, but neither were the antagonists. They had just as much a reason to put an end to the Gestalts as the Gestalts did to try and take the bodies of the Replicants. I'm not suggesting the ending is all sunshine and rainbows, but it's a happy ending for the team we're rooting for, and only one team can come out on top.

>>383841406
>in the literal last seconds of the game
Except for the part where you learn somewhere around route A/B that she's an assassin and has killed her own comrades.

I mean sure, a person like that who has until now blindingly followed orders believing she's doing the right thing while its tearing them inside should be chipper about it and maybe crack a joke to lighten the mood eh?

>>383841759
by you

>>383841789
And yet she says "it always ends like this" after strangling the lad in ending A.
Maybe you refuse to credit the things you missed?

>>383841789
Thought you were talking about her crying while killing him at the end of ending A, them saying she's an E model doesn't really reveal anything about her personality.

>>383841904

in which you're still overpowered because you still have unlimited spam-able dodge and chips to slow down time as well as infinite pod ammo

>>383841682
But humanity are still extinct because Replicant Nier is an asshole. Bad end for us

>>383841672
It's unfair to compare other games to God Hand though, because God Hand will always come out on top.

>>383841950
>>383841961

She doesn't outright say she's an E model you tryhards.

>>383841950

That's a hint, bot a reveal.

Automata was a fucking incredible game but it really did lack memorable bosses. The ones from the first game weren't much better except for the second half but they all came tied with good moments.

>>383836245

the combat is pretty boring just smash buttons.

>>383842024
The gestalt data and humanity DNA database is safe on the moon since the machines decided not to obliterate it. Some sort of resurrection project is not fundamentally impossible.
Maybe since 9S can go a year without getting 2E'd something may yet progress.

>>383842198
Yeah videogames are really boring all you do is hold a controller and smash buttons.

>>383841850
Doubt it

>>383842083
A2 says it.
https://youtu.be/B0jG4dTZyfY?t=1m10s

>>383842024
Androids are humanity though.
The lesson you're supposed to take away from the Replicants is that, in the absence of a soul, the human shape will develop its own.

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>>383842315

Go on Youtube. Look at all the videos claiming it's a godsend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NiyfG8Ctbo

>>383842083
>>383842158
Thus it's not something that was "suddenly thrown in at the last second" you nimrods

>>383842393

I know that you fucking idiot, they were claiming as if 2B outright said it during ending A.

>>383842395
>Androids are humanity though.
I really like learning over the course of the game that they're not just programmed, but that they've essentially developed souls like the Replicants did in Nier. Humanity can die out physically, but it'll always keep appearing again in a new form.

>>383842495

The reveal was. Again reveal =/= hint.

Hints to E models were a few seconds into the game as there was an E model flying with your squad at the very start of the game.

>>383842467
>Youtube celebs
>Caring about e-celebs enough to search for these videos.
>Caring about subhuman clickbait addicted scum enough to bring them up in an argument.
Those aren't humans making those videos, anon.

>>383841321
One dimension: cold and distant
Two dimensions: cold and distant because she loves 9S and doesn't want to get attached when she has to keep killing him

In the game she doesn't change and doesn't have an arc. Her personality is established in the tutorial and she's exactly the same throughout. So she's static.

She never does anything like decide to not kill 9S.

>>383842395
so machines are humanity too?

>>383842603
A revelation being last minute is hardly a drawback of storytelling. It provides context to the seeming discrepancies and answers any lingering questions.

>>383842706
She's never cold and distant, she attempts at being cold and distant because to hide the terrible pain she's in.
>She never does anything like decide to not kill 9S.
Canonically she made that decision a long time ago but 9S just killed himself anyway and told her to not do that again.

>>383842767
Yeah, but both androids and machines are too obsessed with humanity and the past to do things there own way.

Avidyā is a Sanskrit word whose literal meaning is ignorance, misconceptions, misunderstandings, incorrect knowledge, and it is the opposite of Vidya.[1] It is used extensively in Hindu texts, including the Upanishads, and in other Indian religions such as Buddhism and Jainism, particularly in the context of metaphysical reality.

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>>383841746
>praises the story
>doesn't even realize the game gave away its "brilliant" twist immediately
cant make this shit up

>>383843262
So your point is that a story isn't good unless it has an epic twist? Can your worldview be any more juvenile? It sounds like you're trying to take the "to intelligent to enjoy things" stance and it's really trite.

>>383842931
Which isn't in the game, which is another major problem and keeps her static.

The point is that acting cold because love is her entire personality from start to finish. Once you find that out, in the tutorial, that's the end of her character. That's not depth.

Compare that to other characters who get a backstory, are tested, and make a change. Even ones in the same game like 9S and Pascal.

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>>383843262
That humans were already dead was not a big twist at all to anyone who played NieR. The big twist was that 9S has lived alongside and been dealing with 2B for much, much longer than the start of the game.

>>383842510
>>383842083

The only post that claimed that it was revealed that 2B was an assassin was >>383841908, who you haven't even responded to.

When I posted that video I thought the "She" you were referring to was A2, not 2B.

>>383843262
Its not supposed to be a 'brilliant' twist, you would have to be mentally retarded to think so, the games makes constant comments about how suspicious the humans on the moon are and the previous game makes it clear that humanity has gone extinct, you're the only one pretending its supposed to be a big twist.

>>383836245
It's also easily the best.

>>383843513
*that it was revealed by 2B that she was an assassin

a whole thread without 2B butt posting.

I'm impressed.

>>383843461
Static isn't quite the same as being flat. She doesn't have much of an arc (dying halfway into the story will do that) but she's still more detailed than what I would describe as 2 dimensional. There's emotional depth and meaningful angst to her. (As in the actual concept of internal strife, not the buzzword for chuuni edge.)

>>383842635

yes they're normies

normies pretending it's the best game ever made and so deep because they've only been playing cod and halo all these years

>>383843471

whoa I totally get this reference

just look at the boss designs in this room compared to the original - so shit here

>>383843771

too busy defense forcing

>>383842467

holy shit that video is cringeworthy

>>383843513
>>383843587
He won't reply to it. Instead he'll keep bitching about things he doesn't have a clue about.

Sums up /v/ nicely.

>>383836245

It's certainly right up there. The dialogue in the game is fucking atrocious for one thing.

>>383843471
Simone and and the big excavator robot were the only cool bosses in this game.

The big ocean one was a pretty lackluster fight despite how good it should've been, it should've involved the player fighting the big thing itself more rather than just schmuping through more normal machines for 90% of the fight.

>we will never get a boss fight that involves controlling the excavator Goliath to fight the even bigger ocean thing

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>people actually defending Taro's writing

>>383838731

He actually seems like an alright guy, it's his fans that attribute this whole genius status to him. They're be another shitty writer that comes along in a year or two to take his place I'm sure and be the new "genius auteur" that doesnt actually do half of what people think they do.

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While Nier A is a bit overrated

This thing is the most overrated game of 2017 (NA)

>>383844935
nah

>>383840687

The fact that you literally know it's just going to be another bland everyone gets fucked in the ass and everything is pointless diatribe doesn't help in making it any less predictable. Anything you figured was gonna happen ultimately happened in about the most predictable pattern that lacked any sort of impact really. It's also hard to care for a cast composed entirely of caricatures and edge with nonsensical dialogue. I was pretry glad to finally put it to rest and get back to less bland drab narratives

>go from Hard (which is Easy) to Very Hard which is literally die in 2 hits

Nobody can defend this terrible design.

>>383844935
that's not BoTW

>>383841037

Given how stupid his fanbase is would anyone reasonable person expect them to get the blindingly obvious cause I sure wouldn't

>>383844782
Watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_d3fwTNPo

Now even you can be Yoko Taro!

>>383845319
Is Taro the M. Night Shyamalan of vidya?

>>383845194
This is pretty much proof that you're a samefagging shitposter.

>>383844636
>>we will never get a boss fight that involves controlling the excavator Goliath to fight the even bigger ocean thing
I don't think you get how big Grün actually is. Three of the building goliaths would fit in his mouth.

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>>383836245

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>>383845482

>point out flaw
>hurr shitposting samefag waahh

>>383845602
Or your memory is a little rusty but you're very sure it's not. But keep going. I wanna see how long you go before you realize what you did wrong.

>>383845602
Its wrong though, normal is easy, hard is die in 2 hits, very hard is die in 1 hit.

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>>383845319
His third slide literally says "story/gameplay is not the most important thing" to a guy who makes story-based action-RPGs. What an absolute madman.

Tarofags will never admit it.

They're the new Kojimafags.

>>383845764

That's even worse.

>>383842182
It sure has its shortcomings. Bosses and unbalanced difficulty modes come to mind. Still my favourite game this year so far.

Big ass

So if a lot of people like a game that means it's overrated? Is every well received game overrated? How does this even work? Who decided wether game is overrated or not? OP?

>>383846212
But it shows that you haven't actually played the game.

>>383839161
Delete this right now you little bitch

It's definitely one of the best games released this year. It ticks every box. Only criticisms could be that the combat can be a bit spammy at times, but even this is essentially down to the player, and either way the positives massively outweigh the negatives. How someone can enter that world and see all the abandoned buildings and desolate wastelands that used to be filled with human civilisation, and go through the story explaining how it happened and what the androids' mission is involving the robots, hear the great music, see the amusement park, experience all the variations on gameplay that keep the game fresh all the way through, to play through all that and still just think 'nah', is something which is tough to understand, but there's no accounting for taste

>>383836848
>Implying I ever wanted to argue

>>383836245
9S literally ruined the whole game from start to finish.

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>>383848840
9S is the real main character, the game is literally his story, learning his past and his role in a world that has marked him for death.

>>383849224
Yeah, you're right. 9S being the main character ruined the game. Thanks for the clarification dweeb. This was supposed to be 2B and A2's game.

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>>383849432
But Nines is a good boy and you have awful taste.

>>383849709
He's literally retarded and ruined everything with his emotional tantrums. For supposedly being smart he's a pretty big moron.

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>>383849860
Can you name even a single thing he has supposedly ruined? Is he supposed to be responsible for the machines utilizing the logic virus? Is it his fault that YoRHa is a sacrificial lamb?
His emotional tantrum is both perfectly justified and helps save the world by convincing the machine network finally that androids are separate, sapient existences who don't deserve to be continuously tortured for experimentation.

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A2 a best.

>>383850064
but A2 is the one that fucks with the network
9S literally becomes Eve and just wants to kill everything

>>383850264
Whoa, it's almost like that was a narrative choice to show how the ones they were fighting were no different, whoa

>>383850064
Emotional tantrums are never justified. An advanced being such as 9S would understand this.

Shit writing.

>>383850264
The network study both A2 and 9S. A2 destroys the network in her end, the network forgives androids and leaves in 9S's end.

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I fucking hate the combat in all honestly. Its smooth but every fight boils down to
>spam dodge during attack
>spam light/heavy attack

>Shit gameplay
>Shit story
But that's excused because it was made by Platinum, was written by Yoko Taro, and has waifu bait.

>>383836848
In order for there to be an argument you have to lay out the details of your statement first, you faggot.

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>>383839049
I agree, though I thought the combat was fun, especially 9S'. It was sick hacking multiple enemies in a row and watching them all explode.

But the story is definitely not deep in the slightest. Mostly I'm triggered by the fact that most of the critical backstory is outside of the game. I know it's a Taro thing but it seriously takes away all impact.

>>383845229
BotW is the only game mentioned in this thread that has good gameplay. Cry more.

>>383851427
God Hand was mentioned in this thread, though.

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>>383842603
>Hints to E models were a few seconds into the game as there was an E model flying with your squad at the very start of the game.
If you actually bothered to do the sidequests you'd have found out way bigger foreshadowing.

Like the mission about the E android who doesnt remember she had to kill her best friend, or the fact that 2B is the only one that has the "Execute rogue YoRHa" mission on her e-mail, while every single other e-mail is also on 9S's except for that.

I bet you didn't even do 6O's quest.

>>383836245
/v/ is easily the shittiest place in the internet

>>383851573
I missed that.

So BotW and God Hand are good games. Nier and Persona are not.

>>383851876
I don't know about BotW because I haven't played it, but the other three are all good. God Hand is the best one though.

>>383851847
It's about as shit as the rest of the internet, really.

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>>383839750
Actually, I'm pretty sure 2E just went back to killing 9S and the cycle just restarted all over again like the pods feared.
Emil's head hints heavily at this considering the date is after the game.

>>383836245
This isn't the game every "journalist" is calling GOTYAYEY FOREVER though.

>>383852154
I don't see why she would though. I'm pretty sure she doesn't just kill 9S on the spot when he finds out too much, and she would already know YoRHa's done for so she wouldn't have needed to follow her orders to kill him. Maybe something happened to 9S afterwards, but I don't think 2B would have killed him.

>>383852154
The only "hint" to that at all is the "complicated look" (which could literally be just from seeing Emil again [or realizing how he doesn't recognize her], Emil is unsettling even to androids but clearly to have the Emil Heads weapons implies 2B/9S has made a notable relationship to their local Emil copy). There's no chance of killing 9S further because there is no YoRHa to mandate such orders, why would she possibly resume doing such a thing? For it to start all over would require another iteration of YoRHa being made, and Jackass ain't gonna stand for that.

>>383851876
Botw has a worse story than Perona and Nier, worse soundtrack, worse progression, worse graphics and worse characters. It also completely misses what made the best zelda games good, too me it only just makes the top 10 zelda games and it doesn't even come close to persona and nier.

Gameplay was trash for me as well, throughout the game I always used the trash weapons saving my good weapons for later but then I ended up with an inventory full of good weapons and enemies only had trash ones, I lost any reason to fight any enemy because I would only lose my weapons from it, it is literally a game that discourages combat.

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>>383852497
>>383852496
First line says the Machines managed to reconstruct their network though. But yeah it could also just be her feeling sad at Emil. It's all the implications that makes it great though.

>>383853143
So? Machines didn't make YoRHa, just abused it. YoRHa was made by androids.
A new machine network wouldn't justify 2E time.

Automata was disappointing but BOTW is far more overrated

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>>383836331
>i have no argument about an opinion so I'll just call it bait
quality post

>>383854078
OP did not state why it's the most overrated game this year. He did not present any argument, so there's no actual rebutal to be done with an argument.

>>383836848
>call game overrated
>no it's not
>NO ARGUMENTS lelele

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>>383845814
His fourth slide says "scriptwriting guides make no sense whatsoever to me".

>>383854545

The word overrated speaks for itself.

Not even close while BotW exists. Everyone is pretending it is the greatest game of all time.

>inb4 retards who think I'm saying anything bad about BotW

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>>383839857
2B is cute, usually only this comes up.

>>383839120
dark souls

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It hit on spot every niche I love.
Why doesn't more games nowadays take more risks like this one?

>>383841283
only autistic DMCfags, ignore them, theyll just go away

>>383836245
Impossible because Horizon Zero Dawn came out the same year