ANY TIME NOW ARE YOU READY TO PLAY GRIMOIRE, THE GAME OF THE

>>383834834
I can't wait to see the fruit of neanderthal genes!

>>383834834
The super demo is pretty fun so it's holding me over for the next 5 years.

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>>383834834
"I don't know who invited these newbs but they're on the wrong forum. Their forums are about 50 points south on the Bell Curve. These guys are too stupid to be posting on the Codex.

In other news, I am wrapping this up tomorrow."

t. Cleve "The Last Neanderthal" on the codex an hour ago.

ITZ COMING!

>>383835819
wait does that mean it's already midnight in australia,so it would come out in the morning?

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It's already released. Didn't pay a penny for it.

>>383836765
My brother from St. Petersburg is doing reverse engineering currently. He has an issue with alcohol though so his tampering efforts have been hindered by his constant thirst for cheap vodka.

>>383836765
>geocities
RIP.

Want to play a real game instead. Are their Wizardry 8 mods I should install before I start? I've seen a few but I don't know which are "essential" enhancements, and which are for fun.

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>>383836765
here's the link for the old beta if anyone want to see what the game looked & played like in 1998

http://www.mediafire.com/file/7d0sw1cjcjwk8a5/GRIMOIRE__BETA_2.06_setup.exe

>>383837827
Nice sub-deviantart tier artwork.

>>383836765
>it's
>lol u cant dig into these files

A double retard

>>383838162
I mean it does explain why he had somebody redraw the artwork three times

>>383838615
It went from sub-DA tier to DA tier. I don't even want to know what the 2nd version looked like.

>>383834834
not videogames, obviously, since the game is not out and will not be out for a long time, possibly forever.
sage, report etc

AW YEAH SON GIMME DAT NEANDERTHAL JUICE, WE ON REAL ASS NEANDERTHAL HOURS NOW

>DA-tier
>DA-tier
>DA-tier
what is this

i honestly think the game has a nice aesthetic, it really feels like what would happen if you tried to make a shitty mid-90s dungeon crawler today

>>383838803
for the last time it's coming out THIS friday m8 did you see the list of (V1*)DONE Cleve's got this nailed down harder then a coffin

>>383839246
It's literally impossible for it be released tomorrow because even if he does actually finish up the game, it will still take Valve a few days to verify and approve it.

>>383839498
He's only tested it himself on Windows Vista. Guaranteed it has compatibility issues.

>>383839064
>what is this

The graphics look it was drawn by a teenager amateur cartoonist. They aren't bad looking if you want to play a Wizardry 7 clone that looks like it is geared toward children gamers. Obviously, the game is too complex for that but the graphics remind me of a late 80s Saturday morning cartoon.

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>>383834834
>people still think this 'game' will be released in our lifetime

>>383839986
>Windows Vista
Pffffffft.

>>383838803
You'll believe a babby can fly, faggot. A GOLDEN BABY.

>>383840374
It's got shitloads of bugs that can only be the result of poor programming and design. Not surprising considering it's got decades of cruft.

>>383839986
>He's only tested it himself on Windows Vista.

[citation needed]

>>383835514
did you make it to the first town?

>>383840823
Look at the border of the screenshots on Steam.

>>383840823
gb2 rpgcodex

>>383840904
Wow, you should work for CNN.

>>383840915
Not him, but I'm pretty sure codex crossposters are the only ones that still care about Grimwah. The neanderthal meme isn't new enough to be funny anymore. It burnt itself out within a day or two on /v/.

>>383840904
he could be using dell

>>383840915
Unbelievable that we have extremely new newfags that think the [citation needed] shit started in fucking RPGCodex

https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/%22%5Bcitation%20needed%5D%22/order/asc/

>>383834834
You know this game doesn't actually exist right?

>>383841542
Hey come on I've been here for 6 years

Well I guess you'll always be a newfag if you discovered 4chan after 2007.

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>>383841579
>implying it doesn't

Was the demo any good?

>>383842541
Yes, the "demo" has more content than all 3 Elder Scrolls games combined.

Shit art, dropped.

>>383842615
>all 3 Elder Scrolls games
???

>>383842754
Oblivion, Skyrim and Skyrim Remaster.

>>383842842
>not Skyrim, Skyrim remaster and Skyrim VR

What's oblivion

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>>383842842
m8 where do you think you are?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJCiNmYIrr8

>>383836765
How far did you go into the beta?

>>383836281
It's morning now.

>>383841878
Correct.

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>>383837235
https://neocities.org/

>>383834834
Does the game have a romance feature?

>>383839064
>>383840039
DA tier means Deviant Art -tier, as that site is full of hobbyist fan art work etc that kind of stuff.

>>383842541
it's great but can get a little rough if your party synergy is off

>>383843743
>you now remember there was an elder scrolls game that was on a space station
https://youtu.be/Sg8ScOdH3bY

>>383834834
Why are there so many fucking Grimoire shills? Holy shit.

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>>383845174
No why would it have you played a "classic" dungeon crawler before there's hardly ANY NPC interaction beside's the occasional shopkeeper or story NPC telling the party the next step in their journey

Post some good single-dev games that actually did come out.

>Dust
>Cave Story
>Stardew Valley

>>383840673
It doesn't matter how full of bugs this game is, the fans will fix everything with an unofficial patch. Just as long as the game is out there.

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HE'S DOING IT GUYS!!!!!

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So I started playing Wizardry 8 and I think that I might be Damaging myself when I use some Magic.
Is hurting yourself with magical attacks a thing in Wizardry 8? and If so how do I avoid hurting myself when using magic.

>>383845947
>why would it
Because more than two decades have passed since then.

>>383846849
>Going to McD for a coffee
I will never understand this. Why can't you brew some yourself?

All he ever does is hang out on message boards.

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>>383847172
You need to just replace 'coffee' with 'quarterpounder with cheese' and you have the real truth. Cleveland's neanderthal genetics need lot of support!

>>383846849
>I practiced really safe defensive coding
>pastebin link

About to play Wizardry 6 for the first time. Got a few mods for bugfixes and automapping.

Any tips for party creation? Any classes/races that are a must have? Also should I change classes later, if so when?

>Cleve pumps up his game for twenty years, calling it the savior of dungeon-crawlers, the next logical step in moving forward video games
>He allows snippets out, but never releases it entirely
>People taunt and laugh at him, but grow intrigued with dungeon-crawlers, revitalizing the genre and starting a renaissance of independent autistic coders who want to rise up to the challenge of Cleve
>Cleve intentionally fades into obscurity, smiling as he sacrifices his dignity, reputation, his life's work to breath life into a dead genre

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>>383848279
Fairy Ninja

>>383848279
When rolling for party you need to have at least +15 bonus points for each party member. This will take fucking ages to get as the creation is so slow... Is there a save file editor to skip this? Because this is number one reason stopping me playing the game. It will literally take hours to get good party.

Cleve has a tiny penis.

>>383845269
>DA tier means Deviant Art -tier

Yeah, that's basically what I said. Deviant Art tier is usually a pejorative implying the art is amateur and childish. It's actually kind of a dumb euphemism, though, because I've actually seen some really professional looking stuff on Deviant Art. Those occurrences are few and far between, though.

>>383841542
Speaking of the Codex, why do those faggots have such a hate for 4chan but still use our memes? Some even merchant post and call dollars "shekels" like /pol/tards do.

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>>383849050
just use the bane of the cosmic forge editor anon

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>>383849320
These could be in the game, for example.

>>383834834
As much as this literally who game has been memed here lately it's guaranteed to be shit.

>might and magic endgame
>every enemy either mana burns on attack, dispels everything, has massive resists and usually immune to most crowd control spells

>wizardry endgame
>everything has ridiculous health pool and melee with ridiculous dps builds is the only thing that matters

Are there any similar RPGs with an actually fun magic system?

>>383849747
It wouldn't shock me. The art in the game is already rather amateur and childish. I'm still going to play it assuming hell freezes over and he releases it, but I'm not a fan of Cleve's colorful, cartoonish sprites.

>>383850298
>every enemy either mana burns on attack, dispels everything, has massive resists and usually immune to most crowd control spells

What Might and Magic games are you talking about? Magic is overpowered in M&M 3 - 5. The newer ones don't count because they sucked ass, IMO. Others liked them but I hated the transition from tile-based, turn-based combat to real-time, primitive 3d.

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>>383850321
his current faces are pretty "semi-realistic" though?

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>>383850321

>>383850546
Only played 6-7. In the second part of the game pretty much anything but sharpmetal is useless, enemies have too high health pools and resists for other spells to do meaningful damage. And usually just immune to charm/fear spells.

>>383850638
The faces aren't bad but they clash with most monster sprites and some tiles (especially the first area). Don't let Cleve get word of that, though, because he'll delay the game for another decade.

>>383850853
Might and Magic 3 - 5 are a very good introduction to the series if you don't mind tile based blobbers from the early 90s. They are much easier than the newer games and magic starts out strong and just gets exponentially stronger. Melee does, too, and eventually your fighters will be attacking 15+ times each turn.

>>383850638
>>383850729
>4th row
>3rd column

Lmfao what the fuck man, shit looks like a kids first photoshop attempt to make his dad into a snake man or some shit.

I know it's cool to be able to look past the shit graphics but how much effort would it have been to pay a decent artist 50 quid to make some half decent character portraits.

>>383850894
It's all commissioned art, I don't see what it has to do with his work ethic.

The ride never ends. We'll be doing this dance till Cleve dies.

>>383851187
He's just the type of guy that is a perfectionist and can't seem to handle any criticism because his game has to be "the perfect, painted wall on his Neanderthal cave." If enough people complain about the art, he'll "start to hate it" again (his words) and then spend another decade scrapping all the sprites in order to commission someone else to redo them again. It's not that big of a deal, honestly. But the graphics do clash a bit.

>>383851034
Thanks. The truth is that magic is still overpowered in MM6-7, but only like one spell or two. Sharpmetal oneshot kills almost everything, while most other spells barely do 1/10th of the health of an average mob.

Do you still have good spell variety in the endgame for MM3-5? As in, you get to use a lot of spells instead of just a couple overpowered ones?

>>383851539
given that fact that mods will possibly be a thing (if/when) this releases I'd wager the players themselves will take over & create custom made graphics like what the elder scrolls does with it's mods

>>383851624
>As in, you get to use a lot of spells instead of just a couple overpowered ones?

Yes. Nearly all spells scale with your level so something like fireball that you find in the second town will still be very useful in the end game. A spell that does 1 - 6 damage/level and hits all enemies will still be very powerful when you're level 100. The resistances aren't nearly in as brutal in the early games and you have many more spells to choose from.

>>383851539
Are you sure he considers his standards of perfection the same as everyone else's? Do you really think that he has never read anyone call the art "ugly"? Even in the RPGCodex thread there are people complaining about the UI, but we don't see him suddenly delaying the game because of it.

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>>383850638
>>383850729
Kek, wtf.

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>>383852103
I think it's supposed to be the lizards?

>>383852064
>Are you sure he considers his standards of perfection the same as everyone else's?

Steamtards seem to be putting his ass under the fire, but only Cleve could answer that question, honestly. He could just be bluffing, but he acts like he is desperately trying to put his game out and cutting content he used to deem crucial such as "cockroach races" in order to appease his audience/get the game out ASAP (I know that he has done this before but this could be the time). If he gets enough negative reviews pertaining to his graphics, I wouldn't be shocked if he replaces them with subsequent patches. Cleve is very susceptible to criticism and his forum wars/grudges last decades.

I just don't want that fat faggot to find some other reason to delay the game at the end of the day. Too many people complaining about the graphics would just give him another excuse to "repaint the cave walls."

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Deviantart tier indeed. Literally furry fanfiction.

>>383852103
sss sssss sssnake

>>383852103
snek

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>>383852659
>battle the gorgon'ra methuselah

>>383851539
>hate

but then why settle for that specific style if he doesn't even feel like it suit's the game?

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Why do people unironically like western rpg art from the 80s and 90s ? its fucking shit specially the conan the barbarian inspired crap

>>383853576
I'm guessing that he may have ran out of money or had to settle for a second rate freelance artist. Again, I don't even think the graphics are bad--they would go great in a game geared toward a younger audience, but they clash a bit with the portraits and some of the tiles. I don't even think it's a big deal and it isn't enough of a factor to hinder my enjoyment of the game, but again, Cleve seems to look for any reason to delay his shit when it comes time to release. Once all of the micro issues are fixed, it wouldn't shock me if he starts looking for other reasons to delay the game like complaints about the music, graphics, etc. I can't speak for Cleve; I can only speculate how and why certain gears in his Neanderthal skull turn the way they do.

>>383853959
Oh, and there are posts in the past on the codex where he claimed that the art in Grimoire was changed two or three times over the course of 23 years because he grew to loathe it. I'm too lazy to dig up the posts but if you want to comb through years of Cleve's post history, you are more than welcome to.

>>383853683
The anime style is even worse once you get burnt out on seeing it time and time again. The Japs need to come up with something different. The moeshit gets very, very fucking old.

You ever held in taking a poop for a really long time so you could hear your stomach make weird noises?

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>>383852103

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>>383854302
Anime style is fine unless its moeshit

>>383855010
It's been so long since I played JRPGs from the 90s that I forgot that there were very unique variations of the style. Maybe I'm just getting old, but a lot of games drawn in the anime style nowadays look very similar as if 2 - 3 guys are doing all of the art. Maybe it's just the moeshit that becomes the most popular. I don't really game much in current year outside of indie blobber shit and strategy games so I'm probably wrong.

>>383854510
Yes. Then I got hemorrhoids from straining my anus holding it back.

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>>383852636
>roach race

WHAT!?

>>383855416
Damn man you're hardcore.

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>>383855339
They didn't age that bad due to sprites

>>383852636
I'm pretty sure the "cockoach races" thing, like plenty of what he says, was in jest. More importantly, he mentioned that in the context of possible new content that could be added to the game after release and how that will affect save game compatibility, not cutting content.

>>383855437
He wanted to include a life-sized rendition of Turkey in the game.

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>>383852659
>that were-wolf

>>383854510
Yes, it happened to me in the middle of a high-school class. The girl in front of me turned around and looked at me like I was bigfoot or something.

>>383856153
Yeah that's a straight up furry

>>383855809
>I'm pretty sure the "cockoach races" thing, like plenty of what he says, was in jest.

It's easy to claim that and he'll have me thoroughly convinced that he's joking until he isn't. It has been nearly twenty three years now, Anon. Twenty three fucking years. With Cleve, it's hard to separate the trolling, jokes, and sincere posts at times because he is a bit loonie and extremely liable to flake out for the most benign reasons. He's not as crazy as the memes suggest, but I believe the time in his vault messed with his head a bit. I wouldn't put it past him to have cockroach racing in his game for reasons only Cleve knows.

>>383855339
You aren't that wrong about JRPGs because everything we get is either Compile Heart shit (endless nep games and other extremely similar garbage) or random NIS/Atelier releases. They oversaturate the market by a wide margin, Atlus and Squeenix with their "once in a blue moon" release schedules can't compete.

>>383856337
>With Cleve, it's hard to separate the trolling, jokes, and sincere posts at times

Then don't you think that makes this armchair psychoanalysis over the internet that you're doing completely pointless and stupid?

>>383856693
Are you Cleve? Why are you so fucking butthurt, faggot? Everyone that has ever experienced the glory that is Cleve does this with him. There are over 1200 pages in the codex thread doing this as well as usenet posts if you dig deep enough. The guy is truly a mad engima.

>>383856931
>There are over 1200 pages in the codex thread doing this as well as usenet posts if you dig deep enough.

No thanks, I'm not butthurt enough to obsess over some game dev and go on screeds about him like you are.

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>>383857457
Then why are you in this thread, you fucking retard? Every place Grimoire is mentioned you'll see people shitting on Cleve or milking him for more mad lulz if he's currently posting in a thread. You're too sophisticated and mature to partake in such plebeian, sophomoric namecalling, right faglord? How dare someone question the sanity or sincerity of The Last Neanderthal!

>>383857708
Unhinged.

>>383848528
True thal strategy.

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>>383857762
>Attempt to differentiate Cleve's outragous claims from trolling, actual content he means to include, or outright bullshit
>UR UNHINGED XD

Fucking faggot.

>>383846850
You are trying to cast spells above your skill and they are backfiring

>>383847172

Same reasons you would get anything else prepared that you could make yourself.

>>383850546
>M&M 6 sucked ass
hmmm

How do I stop feeling claustrophobic in these games?
I'm fine with RPGs with a free camera like MM6+ or even the recent MM X.
But in games where you can only turn the camera 90 degrees, I can't get a sense of direction and my surroundings. It feels like I have tunnel vision and can only see forward.

Does it get better if I play more? This is the only reason why I haven't played the old classic blobbers.

So I've been eteing that Stranger of Sword City game for some time, and I ask, is it good?

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>>383841579
>t. sape

>>383858267
To those that grew up playing the original turn-based tile blobbers, the change to the real time, low-poly 3D engine was like the change from Fallout 2 to Fallout 3. You're going to see some people totally hate the change and I'm one of them. In time, I actually grew to like Fallout 3 somewhat but I never ended up really liking the newer Might and Magic games. Most didn't mind the change so I'm in the minority. I also didn't like Wizardry 8 that much because I preferred the older ones. It grew on me over time, though.

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>>383858412
It just takes time to get used to it. We are so used to FPS setting and 60 fps free camera movement that it's just your brain feeling claustrophobic because you need to peek through a square small window etc. Just keep playing, it gets better. Of course you need to also immerse yourself into the setting properly - run in fullscreen, crt emulation and proper midi emulation (MUNT for example or good soundfont) and it gets better. When you finally get used to dos graphics and play something from this century your brain will get sensory overload because the graphics are literally from next century.

>>383858603
Same for me. I never even gave MM6 a chance when it came out, because I was plain not interested in the 3D shit.

By now I'm fine with it though and I love Wizardry 8 for example.

>>383858412

Make use of the spell "Wizard's Eye" and keep a close eye on your map. You'll adjust.

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>>383858412
Never really got lost in The Quest thanks to its minimap

I think it depends on the game

>>383859101
Didn't know Sylvester Stallone and Punished Snake were in MM3.

>>383852103
>are you upssssssset?

>>383837705
Faster Combat Mod, MAYBE Wizardry 8 Enhancements (minor balance changes to bring some of the weakly balanced items up to speed)

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/wizardry-8-enhancements-a-call-to-arms.79581/

Don't touch any other W8 mod for a first playthrough - they're mostly total conversions aimed towards min-maxers/powergamers.

>>383859694
This the default party. I'm going to make team with Snaku in it and some other tough guys.

So what time will it release if he does finish it today?

>>383859910
Not that guy, but is there anything I should know about Wiz8 if I want to make a mostly blind playthrough but not get fucked over too much?

That is,
-is there any time limit, or important things that can be missed with no turning back, quests failed with no way to know in advance
-newbie trap choices
-classes that look good but become completely useless by the second half of the game?

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>>383846849
>Vanguard Marines
>Lieutenant Shrike
>Lord Arhiman
Just how /40k/ is this guy?

>>383860589
However long it take for Valve "to approve it." That could be a few days, possibly a few months, maybe a whole year, but most likely some time within the next decade.

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>>383860669
>ahriman
>40k

how many of you are actually going to buy it

>>383862058
Me, but not at launch. If the reviews are really bad (by oldfags that used to play oldschool blobbers) then I will pirate it. If I like it at that point, I'll toss Neanderthal 40 bux.

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>>383862058
me

if you wouldn't buy grimoire if it ever comes out you shouldn't be in this thread

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>>383861367
Yes. According to google, even the Zoroastrianism spirit is Ahzek Ahriman.

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>>383848528
An inspiration to us all

COMING SOON

GRIMWAH

>>383862319
>if you wouldn't buy grimoire if it ever comes out you shouldn't be in this thread

me am proud thal but have no sape money for game

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>>383836765

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>>383848528

OF GRIMWAH I HAVE NO REGRETS

>>383865175
His arm looks weird in that panel.

>>383865385

do you even lift

>>383865442
Sometimes.

Is the dev australian?

>>383865734

Burger living in Australia. Maybe the country rubbed on him and that's why he shitposts so much

>>383865734
American that moved to Australia to escape niggers.

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qdL0s7nqpd

This guy is a conman. Check out my rant about this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-R0D6gpzkU&t=2s

Do not believe in this racist, sexist, and homophobic bigot. He is out to steal your money and the game will NEVER be released.

>>383860604
>-is there any time limit, or important things that can be missed with no turning back, quests failed with no way to know in advance
Not particularly.

Maybe if you're in the habit of dropping random items? But it's not like the puzzle items take up a lot of weight and inventory space is unlimited.

As far as missables go, there's 2 factions you can choose between but there's also an option to work for both with a random chance of them "finding out" and going hostile.

It's an optional questline though so even if you fail that way, the game is still completable. And heck, there's a lot of warnings given in-game and the hostile chance can be save-scummed.

>-newbie trap choices
>-classes that look good but become completely useless by the second half of the game?
I think the difficulty is front-loaded rather than end-loaded.. Bad builds mostly just make the late game tedious rather than make it unwinnable.

The four classes that I think should be avoided are

Ninja - Hard to build and not even that effective outside of one gimmick build.

Bishop - Actually the strongest caster class, but is also grindy as hell and hard to build as well.

Samurai - The magic words "Hard to build". A bit better than the non-gimmick Ninja build but not by much.

Priest - Only thing going for him is early Heal All, but Bard can accomplish that AND have a variety of other effects.

Wiz 8 is rather lenient overall.

I just want this game to come out so I can pirate it already

>>383868254
That momment when im just exploring in Wiz8 now cause THE DON was too strong to fight for my group but also cause im trying to do quests for both factions.

That momment when you realize that Lords and Samurais were supposed to be part spell casters and im that far in. So all I have is a 2-3 hit lord who is reliant on a Berserking cursed sword (Usually 30+ damage) I stole to not go back to only doing 8-10 damage and missing with 2 swords.. My samurai strikes around 2 times and never procs the lightning strikes mutli hit barrage thing that used to happen in the game. My gadgeteer is just shooting shit stones and dosnt have the Stam to cast his trinkets more then 3-4 but he can shoot around 2 times.My lady bard can only cast 2-3 songs before passing out so shes become some Archer - Musician. Im trying to transition my faerie mage from fire dps into learning earth spells for CC.

Am I doomed?

>>383869218
>Am I doomed?
There's always the option of grinding your skills up.

The Bard and Gadgeteer should carry stacks of Stamina Potions to drink if you want them to use their items more though.

Okay bitches... Steam takes usually 6-12 hours to check the product uploaded to the story. In some cases it might be even faster. HOWEVER, if Cleve misses up his window on Friday it wont be visible until next week Monday or even Tuesday as Steam doesn't operate during weekends. No game has ever released on weekend. So I guess he needs to submit his game on Friday after lunch or so in order to get it visible in store. Of course it would probably help if he would actually contact the Steam store staff and explain the situation but I doubt this will ever happen.

I actually doubt that he will still release anything regardless of what he has said.

>>383870454
sorry *store* not story I'm dumb sapiens

>>383850638
he didn't draw them obviously, it's traces and photobashing

>>383834834
OMFG ITS OUT PRAISE NEANDERTHAL

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>>383870454
>Steam doesn't operate during weekends
Is this real or a meme? Seems unlikely.

>>383872178
didn't he say that yesterday?

>>383834834
The demo is legitimately pretty good and it has 11/10 music.

>>383872178
this was 2013 you piece of shit stop posting old shit fuck off >>>/reddit/

>>383872287
You don't know and question this? I'm a developer myself. Steam doesn't operate on weekends it's normal office operation hours you dumbass as you need people to actually verify the submitted binaries... Dumbass.

>>383872345
Yes. So tomorrow is now. Cleve posted that he was pulling an all nighter after getting Maccas drive-through. Hope he didn't get carjacked by Apex. The Sapes he escaped from in LA followed him to Melbourne.

>>383872639
Why would a global internet business only have office hours? Come on.

"You must think I go around scared all the time.

I never post under fake aliases anywhere. I'm masculine. Or as the psychologists say about real Asperger's Syndrome, "Pronounced Hypermasculinity In All Aspects of the Personality."

t. Cleve "The Ultimate Masculine Neanderthal" Blakemoar just fucking now on Steam

These threads made me urge to play dungeon crawlers for the first time, but i want to play grimoah first.

If this fucker don't release this game today, i will be mad

GRYMWAH

>>383872493
Music wasn't half bad actually, but why the fuck would you have a different track for every fucking part of the main menu?

And the sound effects are fucking garbage

And the graphics are retarded

And the sound mixing is retarded

And everything about this game screams old, outdated, unplayable, piece of shit

>>383872725
Why would you argue on anonymous imageboard about this? Are you cretin?

>Before your store page or game build can go live, there is a brief review process where we run your game, look at your store page, and check that it is configured correctly and running as expected and not doing anything harmful. This takes between 1-5 days.

It's even more than that but in special cases it can be as low as 6 to 12 hours... I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you if you are expecting the game on Friday.

>>383851539
I have aspergers plus anxiety issues and I know how this shit is like. Some years ago I was unable finish any work in time because I always felt there was more to be done and that my work would be criticized no matter what.
So I double checked, triple checked, quadruple checked, and even so I would always be worried whenever my boss checked my work, it was fucking maddening.

Thanks god I got better and can function like a normal human being now, but I can picture Cleve nearly having a heart attack due to anxiety whenever he gets close to a release date. Even worse, his game WILL be crushed by reviewers because of it's dated gameplay and UI.

I fucking doubt any modern reviewer would be capable of playing a wizardry game past the character creation.

>>383873159
stop kidding yourselves, this game is a SCAM it will never release. Blakeless Clevetism is probably dead in a ditch somewhere ODed on autism medication

>>383873159
>Still no proofs Steam is closed on weekends
>Your quote says "1-5 days" not "1-5 business days"
The question stands sape. Post proof that Steam doesn't operate on weekends.

>>383872971

It could legitimately be a good intro the genre if it's ever released

Based on Wiz 7, one of the greatest of its kind

>>383873265
Cleve freely admits to having Asperger's and you do, too. Realistically, do you believe this game will ever be released from a sperglord perspective? Be honest. Is Cleve mentally capable of ever releasing this or will he take it to the grave? Keep in mind that he is his own boss and has no one to answer to but himself so the pressure shouldn't be as great.

>>383873325
it's going out on frday m8

>>383873708
Fuck Wizardry 7, that game forces you to sit through the entire character creation process every time you want to reroll stats. Because of this bullshit it can take up to 2 hours just to get a good stat roll for a single cahracter

>>383873325
I'm arguing with this retard because he started to argue on imageboard how Steam works. He is so dumb that he thinks deploying software for millions of users happens instantly and without any manual verification. If this platform was PS4 or XB1 the verification phase would take WEEKS instead of few days...

I have always thought that Cleve wont release anything, ever. It was entertaining until certain point but now I'd just like to smack Cleve with my fist.

>>383873950
This don't cheat, faggot. That's the point of rolling. Play what you fucking roll.

>>383874032
its not even possible to beat the game with characters who have <10 stat rolls, dumbass

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>>383873689
I don't need to prove you anything you fucking summerfag.

>>383873980
>>383873910
S C A M
C
A
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>>383834834
If this game ever releases the world will end.

>>383874376
good thing it will never ever

>>383874136
Not an argument. No proof that Steam isn't open on weekends (which woukd be a day behind Australia's Friday anyway.)
Also you outed himself here >>383866228.
Nice 0% Neanderthal genes voice.

>>383874136

Cleve talks mad shit about how superhuman he is, high IQ, muh superior Neanderthal genes, but never a peep about his kids or being a father

I have a feeling he was a shit dad and realizes that if he started making shit up about how great a father he was, someone would tell his sons (which use social media) and they'd shoot his ass down, possibly revealing embarrassing shit about him

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>>383874772
>Also you outed himself

>>383874949
>doesnt look like anything else you've played in the past
casual faggot detected. GET OUT SAPESHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>383874949
Make another vocarro sape

>>383874949
Sounds like the inbred SJW faggot that spent 6 years creating a character creation screen and nothing else.

>>383874625
>the world not ending
>good

The tiger will grow tired of running soon, my friend.

>>383858603
pretty sure Fallout 3 was hated for completely misrepresenting most of the franchise's themes and overexaggerating the themes that it did include (super mutants turning into glorified orks, BoS being knights in shining armour with infinite resources, etc). I've never once met or even seen a Fallout 3 hater who hates the game just because it's real time 3D, not even on NMA.

>>383873905
He pushed himself into a corner, first by creating the steam page and missing the release date. Second, he now posted a thread with all the areas he's supposed to check and even said the remaining areas to be checked could be done in 8 hours or so.
Meaning, there's no way he can bullshit about "more bugs" anymore without pissing everyone and losing credibility after he finishes the checklist. Hell, this could even end with his game being removed from steam. If it happens, he still has GOG, but they'll be wary of him.

We do have to remember this guy is a master at making shit up. First he said in the steam update it was only a save version issue. Then he said on codex the djinn was bugged and he had to fix this, because the djinn was part of a " super cool easter egg". Then he said something about the adding more lines/diary stuff for some NPCs. Then he said he was implementing a secret easter egg area that was fucking amazing, but it would be quick because most of the logic was done (?). Lastly, he created the thread on steam with all those areas he has to check " but most of them are already done, and the remaining ones will "just" take 8 hours or so". There's also the possibility he wont release it by friday, since valve still has to validate his shit. He can easily make up that he finished the game, but it's already too late to upload it before weekend, so he gets one more week to " fix bugs".

Games can be easily patched on steam, this retard would massively benefit if some people got it in early access and reported the bugs. But still, he fucking insists on checking all the bugs of an allegedly 600+ hours game by himself.

A couple of games Steam are releasing this weekend. Not saying that Grimoire will release too, but whoever tells you Steam don't do weekend releases is a retard.

>Release Date Saturday 15th July
http://store.steampowered.com/app/666310/Space_of_Darkness/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/659750/Reversed_Dreamland/

>>383834834
h-hey i may not be holding out for it realistically b-but if it does come out you guys will port it to mac right? i just realized on steam this is windows only just now

>>383875885
> I've never once met or even seen a Fallout 3 hater who hates the game just because it's real time 3D, not even on NMA.

You must be younger than me then. I remember when Bethesda first picked up the license and NMA had a meltdown over it for years until the game was released. They claimed that Bethesda would turn a strategic, isometric turn-based RPG into Oblivion with guns (NMA was the place that created the X with guns meme) and there were hundreds of newfags claiming that Beth wouldn't or that "isometric games were outdated" and that first-person games are the future. Of course when the game released, Oblivion with guns is exactly what happened. Around the time Fallout 3 was released, there were gameplay videos of Diablo 3 floating around that proved isometric games are still viable. Of course Diablo 3 ended up being shit later on but that wasn't due to the isometric perspective of the engine.

>pretty sure Fallout 3 was hated for completely misrepresenting most of the franchise's themes and overexaggerating the themes that it did include (super mutants turning into glorified orks, BoS being knights in shining armour with infinite resources, etc).

That happened after the fact but the biggest complaint I had and other NMA posters had when the smoke cleared is that Bethesda simply rehashed the story of Fallout 2 but tweaked it by throwing a daddy character into it. It took a long time, but I simply stopped viewing the new Fallout games as canon and simply started considering them some sort of spin-off like Fallout: Tactics was. From then on, I could enjoy them as Fallout themed FPS games instead of RPGs. If this post has poor grammar or spelling, my bad. I'm rather drunk right now.

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>>383858267
>being okay with these portraits constantly starting at you

>>383876591
>Space_of_Darkness
looks like shit
>Reversed_Dreamland
super meat boy without blood

>>383874129
>I'm too stupid to do it = it's impossible

>>383859643
What is the most fun race?

I kinda just went full retard and tried a undead melee dude and rushed until i died to "try it out".

>>383876407
Oh, and just one more thing. I can relate to his of making jokes and inserting some hyperbolic stuff in his rants, because I used to do the same fucking thing (specially in the internet, it was sort of an alternate persona), without noticing how unfunny it was and how retarded it made me look, even when I was trying to be "nice". Sometimes it was really hard to communicate with people. Fortunately, I don't do this kind of shit anymore.

That challenger rant on the latest update is something you would expect from an immature developer in his early 20's, it's also something those clickbaiting sites would LOVE to write about.
Thing is, he is a fucking 50+ old guy. I do wonder how working and talking with him IRL is like, and if he's actually different from his internet self.

>>383876702
Anyone stupid enough to use a Mac wouldn't be able to handle a game more complicated than Assassin's Creed.

Then again, a game that literally plays itself for you as you hold down the button might still be too much for your kind.

>>383852103
Be advised.

>>383876804
no implications were made about the quality of those games

>>383876704
You're right that I'm probably younger than you, considering that I was about 13 when I picked up Fallout 2 shortly after Fallout New Vegas was released just to see what people were talking about when they said the older games were better.
Thanks for the informative post, I was too young to experience the post-license-purchase shitstorm so I appreciate your perspective.

>>383876720

First time I played I didn't even notice they were from porn

The Internet ruined it for me

>>383877201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS2GCyI9v7w

In this video, Robert Sirotek talks about working with Cleve and makes it clear he's a genuine lunatic in real life, it's not just an internet persona.

>>383877157
How is The Quest compared to Grimrock or M&M6 for example? Is it truly a good game or something which is just passable? I also downloaded Wizard & Warriors (from year 2000) but haven't installed it yet. It is supposedly a good(ish) game as well if you can down the early 3d graphics.

>>383877586
you mean made it better, right?

>>383877596
Cleve's account on Sir-Tech. Scroll down page for full Cleve post, some choice parts copypasta'd below:
http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=32803.0
http://archive.is/5R1n9

>They had extensive legal problems with Andrew Greenberg and all of the original source code for Wizardry, which they had never properly obtained the rights to or purchased from Greenberg. They had written successive sequels while all these legal problems raged in the background, thinking ownership was 9/10s of the law and the longer they stalled in court the more likely they would just be conceded the owners of the franchise by default.

>. Their role as "managers" in the past of software projects mostly consisted of calling people on the phone and asking them when did they think it would be ready. I gathered they had no real hands-on experience managing software development and they were so sparse they decided (all non-technical people do) that it was really a very easy affair, you could just hire some interns for peanuts or anybody handy and shazam, a game would appear in some way sooner or later. I had worked with people in New York with far superior experience and credentials to these guys and was good at recognizing real technical people when I saw them. Norm and Rob were not these kinds of guys.

>Both Norm and Rob were not aware you can easily go bankrupt in software development if the company is run by idiots. They were both confident in a way that did not really resonate with what they had on tap, outside of their name and previous glories. I guessed when I was there that Sir-Tech was really on it's final legs at that point despite having "lots of money" in reserves. I have been doing this long enough to know that incompetent people can burn a million dollars a month easily without being able to explain where it all went. I would not have purchased stock in Sir-Tech if I had been offered it.

>>383834834
HURRY UP ALREADY

Why does Cleve have a Fallout 3 character as his RPGcodex avatar?

>>383846849
why isn't he calling it maccas? isn't he australian?

>>383877547
>You're right that I'm probably younger than you, considering that I was about 13 when I picked up Fallout 2 shortly after Fallout New Vegas was released

That must have been difficult for you. That would be like me picking up pong after ES:II Daggerfall released. At least it would have been far less buggy, kek.

>>383877886
See>>383865865

>>383877747
So Cleve, who has been caught in more lies than a Tumblr kid who brags about beating up bigots in public then everyone clapping, should be believed on any of this? It's like you people want to be deceived.

>>383877756
Be patient. He's not working on it as fast as he can.

>>383877896
Eh, I had a pretty shitty computer at the time and I was just glad I could play something on it other than Newgrounds games.

>>383877987
Read the Greenburg case here
https://www.law.cornell.edu/nyctap/I05_0008.htm
Summary from some forumposter:
>According to this summary Greenberg licensed to Sir-Tech in 1981 his 1979 Wizardry game on it and was to receive any and all royalties for related products.
>In 1991, Sir-Tech collapsed then transferred its assets to Sir-Tech, Canada. However, they apparently decided that they didn't have to pay Greenberg his royalties.
>It was in 1992 that Greenberg discovered they left the country so he filed suit in the state of New York.
>Sir-Tech Canada argued that they lacked jurisdiction but Greenberg pointed out that Wizardry products were being sold in the State and that Sir-Tech Canada bought the sirtech.com domain from they former parent company Sir-Tech Sftware, Inc., a New York company.
>He won the lawsuit but Sir-Tech appealed and somehow they won. The court stated that Greenberg failed to even raise the the legal violation that he originally sued them over (cplr 302 a, etc.)
>Not to be undaunted, Greenberg appealed that decision with quite a bit of evidence. This article shows the results of that decision in Greenberg's favor in 2005..13 years after it began and 3.5 years since the last North American Wizardry release. According to Wikipedia, there has been 15 Wizardry products released in Japan since.
https://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2101

In what way was Cleve's description wrong? Even today they farm the model out to Japanese devs to do the heavy lifting of actual game development.

>>383877987
He was right about the anus monsters and gay furries in Stones of Arnhem that the head producer of Sir-Tech Australia forced him to implement, anon. Everyone laughed but HE WAS RIGHT. The Sir-Tech auction of liquidated assets confirmed it.

>>383877586
Googled this and found nothing, source?

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>>383878436
>He was right about the anus monsters
Reminder to never doubt Cleve

>>383877586
So the foam in their mouths was actuall cum?

>>383878686

The description of details of the project by Cleve are probably all true. He was there, he worked there

His descriptions of interpersonal relationships are probably all fake, though. They all paint him as some sort of downtrodden hero and everyone else as some sort of degenerate (the faggotry and pedophilia stories everyone worked together to cover up, a lead dev constantly suspicious of people fucking his wife, the apartment full of dildos and blowjob slaves, etc.). He stretches believability completely, such as him calling the cops re: the child slaves and people not immediately dropping him (if everyone else was fine with covering it up, he was obviously the one to do it, no need to even ask)

>>383877747
I implore you all to read some of the shit in this link. It's in the Codex retardo thread, but you have to either lurk the site for a year or donate shekels. There is some fucking lulzy stuff in here whether you believe Cleve or not. Anyone that wants to laugh at Australians should read this top kek.

>>383879679
>In one plotline, a magical diamond was hidden inside an NPC's anus and had to be smelled out with an enchanted butt bandit on a stick that was held in front of the party like a totem. It was called "Bitchie the Hedgehog" or something to that effect
my sides have soared past the Kepler belt and are currently hurdling towards Andromeda

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>>383879986
"One of the things I had noticed when at Max Phipps apartment is this mysterious phenomenon of teenage boys appearing and disappearing at random. Like you would be sitting at his kitchen table reading over some story scenario materials he had just produced and all of a sudden like in a stage play, a person would appear.

All of a sudden, this kid who looked around 14 would emerge silently from what I had previously thought was a broom closet, cross the room behind me and vanish into another cupola door near Max's bedroom. I'd hesitate a second, not knowing if this kid was actually supposed to be here or why. I had thought when I first arrived it was nothing but Max and I in the apartment. He had these strange "presences" in the apartment, teenage boys all around all the time.

A couple minutes later, another kid would emerge from his games room, definitely underage, a little taller. He left through the front door like he was running an errand.

I was kind of baffled and couldn't help but wonder who these kids were that were always coming and going. when Max came out of his study, I'd say to him, "Max, a kid just walked through. Does he have your permission to be here?" Max would glare at me and make himself a cup of coffee without saying anything .... I'd think, Some weird dudes I am working with on this "Stones of Arnhem" project. Must be some kind of australian cultural gap thing. Maybe unknown teenage kids walk through people's apartments all over Australia and I am just not familiar with it."

>I'd think, Some weird dudes I am working with on this "Stones of Arnhem" project. Must be some kind of australian cultural gap thing. Maybe unknown teenage kids walk through people's apartments all over Australia and I am just not familiar with it.

> Must be some kind of australian cultural gap thing

>>383880326
Damn I want that house...

>>383880326
Can't you get sued for false accusations?

>>383881747
What false accusations? What Cleve posted was basically confirmed by Mr. Sirotek himself>>383877596. There was an auction on Ebay that Sirotek shutdown but not before assets from Stones of Arnhem were sold which included sketches of male furries having sex with each other and a sketch of an anus monster. The only part of Cleve's tale that is questionable is the child sex ring but Max passed on around the year 2000 so that has never been confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kI-OR8FISA

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>>383879226
Yes anon, Cleve's description of Max Phipps seems totally unlikely and out of character.

>>383836765
>i-i-i-i-i-i-i-it's just a BETA!

>>383846849
>maccas coffee
>not 7-11
definitive proof that he's NOT currently in Australia

>>383882860

I don't doubt he was a flaming homo. The penisaur and rectum enemies had his go-ahead. But to believe Cleve's narrative at face value (which always paints him as the downtrodden visionary thwarted by evil and ignorant coworkers) is just naive. He's taken the money and ran from two crowdfunding campaigns. He's taken over 20 years to deliver a game that, according to himself, was nearly done over a decade ago. The man's a liar, he probably spun a tale containing equal part true elements with his "poor me" retardation grafted onto it

Also, by his own admission he has Asperger's, which fuck up much of his credibility. One's expected to take a sperg's take on Richard Sirotek's relationship from his wife which gave off a "bad pall". From a person that admittedly has trouble socializing and reading emotional and social cues. The whole thing is basically "believe a sperg's take on intrincate human interpersonal relationships and his heroic struggle agains 30+ evil clueless people that somehow delivered Wizardry 8, one of the best games ever made"

>>383877886
One of his tirades he mentions taking a while washing his hands as Max Phipps calls to him " Did you fall in, yank?".
So yes, definitely Septic.

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>you will never be able to turn your demented ramblings into a game made my a mad american while living with a harem of nubile teen boys
Why do we continue living.

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>>383883498
>I told them I had gathered that Australians suffered some kind of genetic anemia, a lack of iron in the blood that made them listless and unable to solve problems in their lives. I told them that they were fond of pretending to work but by and large most Australians were some of the least productive people in the world when it came to software development and programming. I told them socialism clearly makes a race of men weak and soft in the head given enough time. I told them that working alone it would take me such a long time to complete the game by myself it would not be worth it to proceed in that context.

>Seeing how they reacted to this situation, knowing something pretty criminal was going on and just telling me to "know my place," I could see exactly why the British had deported their ancestors. I had just met them and I wanted to deport these assholes. Farther south this time, maybe to Antarctica.

Australians, everyone. Enjoy your "septic" meme, faggot. Go fuck a roo.

>>383882860
>>383883160
>>383883498

Why was Max Phipps even attached to the project? Why was a minor Australian actor working on a Wizardry spinoff

Getting his first writing credit?

>>383883706
Americans, from 0 to FUCK YOU in 0.1 seconds.
Lighten up, mutt.

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>>383883871
>I've only been in the country a year and my opinion of the Australian people was formed very quickly from first impressions derived mostly from you and your team. I told him, with a few exceptions like Shamgar and some other people I have met here, I don't really think anything of you. I think the British should be fined by the United Nations for dumping toxic waste in this country.

>>383882371
It is plausible though. At that time in Sydney there were lots of pedestry rings amongst homosexuals. Underage rent boys, sexual abuse of runaways, boy brothels (Costellos at Kings Cross) etc. They were exposed at the 1995 Wood Royal Commission into police corruption and pedestry/pedophilia.
Also see the murder of Arron Light as a case study, a underage rent boy who was killed in 1997 in Sydney as he was about to give evidence against pederests. It was really common and a feature of how gays lived in Sydney.
Not saying there is a direct nexus to what Cleve is posting about, but his account is definitely not implausible or unlikely by the standards of the time and location.

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>>383883871

>>383884663
>Underage rent boys, sexual abuse of runaways, boy brothels (Costellos at Kings Cross) etc.
Just like my chinese cartoons.

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>>383884884
Yeah man Sydney in the 90s. Not saying it's true but Cleve's account isn't implausible or far fetched.

>>383874854
>He actually thinks Cleve has a wife and a son
Hahahahaha

>>383837827
why does this version of the game looks much better than the current version of the game?

>>383845947
He has said that Dynamic NPC dialogue and Romance are a feature that he has been working on but won't be ready for the version 1 release.

>>383885278
https://twitter.com/CoopieBlakemore

This is one of his kids. As right-wing as Cleve

>>383885325
That's Cleve roleplaying as his son, my man

>>383883752
Robert Sirotek said in the interview that they wanted to make Mad Max or Crocodile Dundee in video game form. Either that or they went to Australia to dodge the Greenberg lawsuit and avoid paying royalties.

>>383876720
>being okay
I'm not a genZ cancerous faggot, so they cracked me up rather than bothered me

>>383885385

There's videos of him doing presentations. Why would this kid accept faking it. What would even be the purpose

>>383849050
>>383848279

Everyone says this but it's not necessary if you are going to change classes. When you change class, you stats go back down to default. Just try to have a plan for your characters so you don't completely screw yourself over in stats.

Class changing send to be a good way to go, although I've only just made it to the Mines. Started with mostly basic classes and class changed to better classes except for my mage, who I'm taking through a few levels as priest before going back to get more spell points.

Fairy ninja is great. I started with a fairy bard and then turned her into a ninja when the lute stopped being as effective at putting everything to sleep.

>>383885432
Never underestimate the neanderthal.

>>383885458
Nah

>>383882371
The whole "luring run away boys from train stations" thing was common then:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/former-kings-cross-sex-worker-opens-little-black-book-on-high-profile-clients/news-story/5ba7138d98f7f7c1907f60d8d6ecbbf4

>>383886710
Holy fuck dude

>>383886843
I'm jesting for (You)s

That's why I deleted it. I have a problem of saying the most outlandish things for (You)s

I fucking hate being Australian it's in our blood.

>>383852659
>Battle the Gorgonzola Medusa!
oh boy

>>383886340
That's awful

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>>383862319
I'll buy it, load it up so that it shows a playtime of like 0.1 hours, then shit on it in a review, call it a shittily coded Wizardry 7 rip-off and accuse Cleve of stealing the old Wizardry 7 alpha from Sir-Tech. Then I'll refund it and wait until he goes nuclear.

>>383835819
the black people can still get you in there, cleve

Guy seems to be devoting all his efforts to fighting with his critics and getting them banned from the STEAM forums. No wonder he hasn't actually made a game.

>>383866614
you got BTFO at Codex, what makes you think you stand a chance here?
fuck off