Thoughts?

Who cars?

>>383829084
Skullgirls: 2nd Encore+ should be in top tier

>>383829106
*beep beep*

Where would ARMS be?

>>383829084
where Smash?

>>383829336
Low Tier.

>>383829336
Low tier

garbage list from a garbage person

>>383829403
>>383829413
GOD

I'm le autistic oldfag that pretends to love old shitty unbalnced as fuck overly flashy fighters: the list

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>>383829084
VF 4 EVO not in the top.
>good tier chart

>>383829084
Accurate

You literally just added Tekken 7 and SFV, and put Tekken 7 as low as SFV just to piss people off.

>>383829336
its not even a fighting game

Smash Melee (if you consider it to be a fighting game which to be honest is a huge debate which never seems to go anywhere, both sides knowing damn well that it is impossible to change the mind of the other but I digress) would be high tier due to the insane technical aspects in high level play. Other than that though, good list.

>Project Justice
>Mid tier
>Not high tier
????????????????????????

>>383829585
This.

>>383829606
>VF
>Top tier
Um, no.

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>>383829084
Is this still the.....
>Bloody Roar 3 in top tier
Yep. Same shitty troll list as always.
>Updated with Tekken 7 in low tier, but Injustice 2 isn't on it. Guilty Gear Xrd STILL isn't on it.
>Rising Thunder doesn't even exist anymore, but it's still on it
That's just low quality bait.

>hokuto lower than fucking king of spics 2k2 and joejoes
>bloody roar at all

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>>383829084

I don't see KoF 14, should be Top Tier.

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Where's Them's Fightin' Herds?

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>>383829727
>Smash Melee
>insane technical aspects in high level play

>>383829797
Put some effort into your bait

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>Tekken 7 in anything but high tier

>>383829975
It was mlp shit at first so barneyboy has an autistic fit every time it is mentioned. shame too since it actually looks decent

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>>383830201
>Tekken 7
>high tier

>>383830280

It actually is. I'm playing the beta and the fighters being quadrupeds actually does make the game feel unique. There is a huge emphasis on aerial control, and the movesets are pretty varied. I just wish there were more characters

>>383829084
>T7
>Low
Fuck outta here, the game is great.

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>>383829797

god tier: bushido blade

>>383829084
Literally every game in the top tier is genuine garbage except for ST and 3S/vsav. And the last two are only good at a very low or very high level of play

>>383829336

ARMS should be Top Tier as well.

>>383830472
>Lacks any complexity or depth
>Extremely homogenized cast
>Heavy amount of slow down on the PS4 version
>Massive amount of input lag, more than any other game on the market
>No cross platform play
>No rollback netcode
>Complete rehash of the previous games
>Retarded comeback mechanics rewarding the losing player with an almost instant kill free super
>Worst cast out of any tekken game
>"Newcomers" are just reskinned old characters
>Dumbed down mechanics such as 1 button throw techs
>Literal 1 button infinites

Fuck off you casual retard T7 is shit

>>383829975
I don't know but I wanted to say I went to TooManyGames to play all the cabs they had and there was some lonely autist who was sitting by himself with his laptop playing that game. He was there for at least 5 hours

Melee is by far over all of those games

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>>383830818
I dont think Power Instinct Matrimelee was that good desu

>>383831036
interesting

>>383829084
>>383829084
>all that capcom shit
like half the capcom games on that list are way fucking higher than they should be, such as:

>USFIV
>SF2
>SF3rd Strike
Nigga get this shit out, they don't do anything better than SFA3

>UMVC3
>SFA2

UMVC3 is a fucking joke of a game, even having it in the same tier as MVC2 is insulting.

>GGI in Low Tier when it's not even a fucking fighting game

Pretty much everything past Mid Tier is shit no one has played competitively besides like, five people, and even then Mid Tier is full of shit like that, like SC1, or Rival Schools 2, SFXT, and so on.

Basically, this list was made by a FGC dicksucker who wasn't looking at the quality of the game, but its popularity. It's not a matter of what it did for fighters, how relevant it is today, or what makes their formula so special it deserves a place on the list.

Why do we allow capcunts to post their opinions when everything is biased for SF shit? When pretty much every game on a list is SF, it undervalues the actually fucking good SF games like SFA3, SS4AE, and fantastic Capcom games like MVC2, in favor of oversaturating a list with capshit.

tl;dr
remove everything capcom from this list, organize it by what's actually great, not what's most notable. This is a list made by someone who clearly has not played all these games.

>>383830689
Meanwhile the scene is exploding and everyone is having tons of fun. Stay salty you fucking stoner.

>>383831337
alpha 3 is dogshit

>>383829727
I wouldn't count it personally because it's not intentionally technical. It's the kind of game people play and stick with because the 'technical' shit was a fucking accident. It'd be like wanting to list a game like Quake 3 on the list despite clearly not being a fighter, because it has a bunch of stupid technical shit like other fighters.

Pretty bad. Alpha 3 is overrated as fuck and there's a bunch of meme fighting games up there for no reason like Jojo and CvS2.

At the very least I can tell you that it's correct on which fighters are shitty

>>383831625
you're dogshit

>>383829797
Thanks for bothering to post something decent in a shitty bait thread.

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>>383829084
Agree with everything currently assigned "Into the trash tier".

most anime based fighters like Dragonball and Naruto are actually brawlers rather than fighting games so they don't belong on this list.

other changes that need to be
>Tekken 3 to mid tier
>Virtua Fighter 4 Final Tuned to high tier
>MvC 2 & 3 to low tier

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>>383829727
>Melee would be high tier due to the insane technical aspects in high level play

>>383829084
I like Bloody Roar, but come on.

>>383831834
Xrd and T7 are NOT on the same level as Tekken 3 or SFEX3, fuck off.

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>>383831834

>>383829084
You should really kill yourself. Your taste is beyond shit.

>>383831337
>good SF
>games like SS4AE
Haha had me going for a while there

>>383831759
It's the xtekken of the 90's. It has a huge roster and lots of personality but the actual gameplay is extremely flawed, both from a blance perspective (the game is actually more balanced if you don't ban v-groove because a-groove dhalsim and gief run a train on everyone) and because it's just kind of badly made (universal infinite combos in v-ism that aren't that hard to pull off)

>>383831971
Melee is indeed pretty execution heavy, anon.

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wow someone sure is a capcom whore huh

>>383831834
>terrible at fighters so can't play anything good
>therefore they're all low tier
>meme games are top tier
sasuga

>>383831985
All those games are shit, seems fine to me

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>>383829084
>Clayfighter 63 1/3
>Into the trash tier

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>>383829084
>SoulCalibur, MK9 and Killer Instinct not on top tier

>>383829084
Wheres Burger King

>>383832193
You have shit taste in fighters, then. Xrd is decent at worst.

>>383829084
Tekken 4 is best Tekken except maybe Tag

>>383832193
he didn't say skull casuals, you must be confused

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Who in the fuck puts Soul Calibur V over SC1 and 2?

>>383832470
Or any Soul Calibur above mid tier, for that matter? Like what the fuck?

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>>383832470

>>383829084
Fucking Capcom shill

>>383832217
Clayfighter is absolute trash for anything more than super casual play, even fucking Sonic The Fighters has more depth than Clayfighter

>>383832087
2 things

Firstly theres no such thing as V-IMS infinites, the infinites in the game is due to a bug called Crouch Cancel which tricks the game into thinking you never landed from a jump thus never letting your opponent air recover, its not tied to any ISM at all

Secondly its very hard to do, both to set up and keep going, its so hard to do in fact the top tiers (Sim and Akuma) dont even have CC infinites at all.

Also CC infinites only exist in 1 version of the game, they released a revision for the arcade which has no CC infinites and all console ports also have no CC infinites, however much like the 3S unblockables the community decided they liked them and went with the version of the game that has the infinites.

looks good to me desu

>>383832470
Anyone who actually plays fighting games for the gameplay.

>>383832769
You mean you succumb to the devs making everything more casual focused

>>383829084
>Tekken 7 is on this list, while Guilty Gear Xrd, King of Fighters XIV, Blazblue Central Fiction, and Injustice 2 are not.
>Samurai Shodown isn't on this list, but Clayfighter, Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm, Capcom Fighting Evolution, Bloody Roar, and Fighting Vipers are.
>Why does the shitty GBA port of Tekken 3 get on this list, but nobody else has their shitty mobile port on it?
>All the older MK games are on here, but MKDC isn't for some reason?
>Rising Thunder, a game that literally can't be played anymore, is still on this list

And that's without mentioning how bad the taste on this list is. Bloody Roar 3 is top tier. If you've ever played that game, you know how insane that is. That's like putting Shaq-Fu for Genesis in top tier, and then putting Shaq-Fu for NES on the list at mid tier.

>>383829084
>tekken 7 in the same tier as sfv
>usfiv top tier
>umvc3 high tier
>scv over all other sc
>mkx mid tier and not low tier
what a faggot
>>383829336
mid tier
>>383829397
64 mid tier
melee mid tier
brawl into the trash tier
4 high tier

>>383832658
That anon is retarded but isn't completely wrong. Regardless of CC infinites or not most characters on V have 80% combos and even if they are hard as fuck to pull off sometimes just mashing shit on block with Ken will cheap you out as early as 1/3 of health, assuming you have full meter, obviously.

Alpha 3 is busted, it's a fun game, but it's busted. I would put it on high mid or low high tier on a fighting game list.

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>>383829084
Am I blind or there is no Melty Blood in there?

>>383832470
>M-M-MUH ZELDA

>>383833073
>4 high tier

>>383829084
wannabe hipster list, whoever did this didnt play most of those games, guaranteed.

>>383833073
>tekken 7 in the same tier as sfv
You're right tekken 7 should be lower

>>383832053
This.

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>>383833006
>That one asshurt goober that keeps samefagging because no one likes his shitty dead game

>>383829084
Smash 4 and Brawl in Into the Trash tier.
Melee in High tier
Blazblue Continuum Shift II in High tier
I didn't see Central Fiction, it should be mid tier
Revelator 2... mid tier.
XXAC+ should be top tier.
USF4 to mid, and Alpha 3 to high
I don't see P4A, Melty Blood, or Arcana Heart 3. All should be in mid.
Soul Calibur IV should be trash tier
Soul Calibur V should be mid
UMvC3 should be mid.
The new Jojo game for PS3 needs to be in
Rivals of Aether should be in
Jump Ultimate Stars should be in
Injustice 2 should be in
Smash 64 should be in mid tier
Big Bang Beat Revolve should be in
Pokken Tournament should be in Low tier
ARMS should be in trash tier
Yatagarasu needs to be in
Super DBZ and Hyper DBZ need to be in
Project M... maybe?

And I feel like I'm missing a few, but they're not coming to me.

MvCI, DBFZ, and that new indie fighting game they announced at E3 need to be added upon release.

Also, inb4 "hurr not a fighting game" yiu added fucking Naruto and Budokai 3 to the list, thus, you gotta add the platform fighters too.

>tekken 3 and 7 low tier
>tekken 5 only mid tier

rofl

>>383832658
>Firstly theres no such thing as V-IMS infinites
They're way easier to set up with v-ism, especially because custom combos are just inherantly broken in every game they exist in and alpha 3 starts you with full meter, which means you can start the round and infnite someone to death in a fucking street fighter game.

>Secondly its very hard to do, both to set up and keep going
Which is irrelevant given that at high level play people pull them off all the time. People play the version with CC infinites because the ports of alpha 3 all run like shit and that arcade revision was pretty limited release.

CC infinite are only part of why alpha 3 is a mess though. Fireballs are near worthless because they do no damage and air blocking exists. Starting the game with full meter means you don't have to think about doing stuff to build meter, because of wack hitboxes and airblocking anti airs are generally really weak and this leads to characters like gief who can get away without thinking as they jump in way more than in other street fighter games. The guard meter was a terrible idea too that punishes you heavily for being defensive (especially if you try to alpha counter). All the mechanics in alpha 3 combine to create a game where you don't really have to think about stuff and instead just slam buttons and win because random normals do way more damage than anything else. This and the fantastic visual/audio presentation and big roster make it a great casual game and a dogshit game to take seriously, it's the smash bros brawl of street fighter.

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>>383829084
>no Suikoden

Nothing is egregiously wrong enough for me to really dispute it. All in all a pretty solid list. Well actually, I think SFV is a bit too low. Mid tier seems better. Despite it being shittier than SF4, I still don't think it's that awful.

Also mvc2 and 3 are top tier for me, but that's probably my bias towards them. Sucks that mvci is gonna be low/garbage.

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>>383829084

>>383833482
>tekken
>not into the trash

rofl

>>383832769
Which is why putting SCV over SC1 or 2 is utter autism. SCV loses by default on account of having characters, like nightmare, with edge moves that literally take 75% of your health, meanwhile other characters do baby piss damage. The game is great for creating characters, but the actual combat is terrible.

>>383833793
>muh thrurd strikee beest fightan ever

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>>383833793
What about Blazblue?

>>383833793
Killer Instinct shouldn't be anywhere other than the very top of any list.

>It's a "SC5 is the best game in the series because its the best to play competitively even though SC2 with the glitches is way more interesting as a meta game while not being a wet fart as a casual one and soul calibur is just tekken for casuals anyway" poster

>>383834015
This is bait, right?

>>383834339
>This is bait, right?
Where exactly do you disagree? Have you played the game? Because there are all of about 4 viable characters out of the entire roster.

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>>383833793
>bloody roar
Nice try furry

>>383833793
Move guilty gear down

>>383829084
my thoughts: youre an sf4 babbys first fighter

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>Budokai
Pleb
Why no Budokai Tenkaichi 2/3?

>>383833793
>Divekick
>Not 200+ IQ

>>383829084
Accurate

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>No Pokken

Smash I can understand I suppose because of how different they are. But you have Tekken and other 3D fighting games that Pokken is in the vein of.

>>383833463
I don't even own Guilty Gear Rev 2. It's still hilarious that OP went out of his way to add Tekken 7 just to piss people off, and completely ignored those other games that came out before it.

>>383833479
If we're adding shit like Pokken, Smash, and the new JoJo game, lets go further.
>WWE All-Stars in Top Tier
>Def Jam Fight for NY in High Tier
>Divekick in Mid Tier
>Lethal League in Top Tier
>Gundam Extreme Vs. in Top Tier.
>Nickelodian Super Brawl 3 in GOD TIER


>>383833793
>Bloody Roar
This is made by the same guy, right?
>Samsho in 90-99
Nope. Different troll. This guy knows SamSho exists.

>>383833479
>Melee in high tier

Fuck no. Mid or low at best.

>>383829782
um go fuck yerself pal

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>>383834758
Nice try goober, you aren't fooling anyone.

>>383829084
Regardless of its quality, if you have fucking Naruto in the list, at least include Pokken.

>Guilty Gear Isuka

why not just fucking add every beat em up too

>>383835147
Guilty Gear Isuka is a fighting game with a beat em up side mode

>>383834758
Sure, I say go all out and properly rank them all.

Or better yet, split it into categories.
Arcade 2D Fighters
AirDashers
Platform Fighters
3D Fighters
and Sports Fighters

>>383834824
I'd rank Melee above Xrd personally, I find Melee to be a very engaging game to play. Don't let the Smashtard salt cloud your judgement, Melee is indeed a good game, and a lot of fun in 1v1. It's the best Smash Bros by a long shot, rivaled and maybe even surpassed by the mod, Project M. Now it's certainly not top tier, as both are very flawed and suffer heavy balance issues, but High Tier seems fair.

Now... would I put Melee above or at the same rank as Continuum Shift II... idk...

>>383835301
it's a beat em up either way, it just has a limited stage outside of the GGPlus mode.

>>383829084
Outdated and wrong no matter what because my favorite nostalgia fighter > your shit tastes and opinions.

3rd strike was a meme that a bunch of old nerds convinced themselves was a good game, because fighting games were in a slump during that time period and that was the best they had

>>383835830
09er detected

>>383833793
You can always tell it's shitty players that don't even play fighting games let alone make it out of bracket that make these type of posts. There's a lot more mental game that is less discussed and defined besides a bunch of button inputs and mechanics. I bet you think Chess is a low IQ game too because it's simple to understand. No fighting game is harder or easier than the other and autism can compel people to push things to it's limit.

>>383836417
Post your fightcade ID

>No Melty Blood

Tekken 7 is the best Tekken in 15 years

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Skullgirls
>balanced roster
>diverse gameplay cast
>deep mechanics
>no infinites
>best training room
>great music
>best netcode
>great quality nimations
>big band trumpet songs
>runs on potatoes
>cheap as dirt
>free pc testing client where you can play the dlc for free online
>simpler, smarter inputs
>great input lag
>great tutorial
>dual audio
>blind friendly
>american
>balanced variable teams
>variable assists
>fun references
>unique characters
>great tits and ass
>realistic bouncing titties animated by a woman
>gameplay closest to DBFZ

Any list without this game in the best tier is shit

>no kof 2002 in top tier

pleb

>top tier: SF4
>low tier: tekken 3

>>383829397
Smash is a party game not a fighting game

>>383835414
fighting games with multiple planes was a thing before isuka, or would you call a bunch of the fatal fury games beat em ups and not fighting games?

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>>383829084
What a shit tier list.

Also, for someone adding so many meme games, you neglected one of the grandfathers, which was quite influential in Japan at it's height and has retained mild popularity even 15 years after it's release.

Tag 2 should be low
2 and 6 should be mid
3 and tag 1 should be high
5DR and 7 should be top

>>383837248
No

>>383837357
Hands on your head, stoner

>>383836761
How the fuck did he do a level 5 after a super tag?

>>383837246
moldy bread is like midtier at best and this is coming from someone who likes it

>>383829084
>DBZ Budokai 3 in lowest tier
It must suck having that shit of taste

>>383829084
Capcück

>>383837689
level 2 supers and up cost one less level if dhc'd/"super tagged" into

Alright whatever man but real talk. Where does WINDJAMMERS fit in all this?

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>>383837706
I personally like UNIEL better as a fighting game nowadays, but for it's time Melty was the fucking best. And like I said, it was very influential in Japan.

Also, UNIEL's cast never clicked for me the way Tsukihime characters did. A good fighting game makes you give a shit about the characters beyond their frame data even after 1000+ hours playing it.

>>383838202
Watching Paint Dry Tier

>>383838274
Assuming a good amount of players played Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya compared to UNI's story mode that just now exists, what the hell did you expect when comparing character attachment differences

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>>383838274
>A good fighting game makes you give a shit about the characters beyond their frame data even after 1000+ hours playing it.

This. One of the reasons Melty Blood is one of my favorites is because I like the characters, also the battles are very fluid and intuitive.

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>>383838745
I never said it was a fair comparison since Melty had two whole VNs to draw off of, but the fact still remains that I have no attachment to the UNIEL cast. It doesn't help that they all feel extremely derivative.

>>383838274
>>383839432
Sorry, gentlemen, but you don't choose a character because of the character itself, but because of the function it has.

Do you even know how fighting games work?

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>>383839861
That rush you get when you choose a low tier character you like and win against the odds.

>>383839861
Functionposting is going to reach critical mass

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>>383829084

>>383841646
>console fighting games

>SFIV

Why is this game so highly praised...?

>>383829084
No BlazBlue lol

>>383841853
Closest thing approaching truth ITT

>>383829084
I don't see P4 Ultimax or DOA5LR on there but you bothered to include SFxT which most people would prefer to forget even exists

>>383829084
Nonsense

>>383829084
Tekken 6 is one of the best fighting games ever made, what the actual fuck? Most 3D fighter devs dream of their game being as polished both visually and mechanically as T6

The last blazblue is just 10 bucks on the psn. Should I get it? I never played the series before tho.

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>>383842983
>Tekken 6 is one of the best fighting games ever made

>>383843157
Central Fiction? Sure, as long as you don't care about the story whatsoever because you won't get a whole lot from the story mode, even with the recap they included. It's kind of unbalanced but not horribly for most characters, and you won't have that problem online unless you find someone actually very good.

I really like Street Fighter EX 2 Plus, where does that rank?

>>383829397
baby shit tier

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>>383833793
I have to call out the double standard here, Smash is constantly shit on by /v/ for only being played by autists (aka people much smarter and more skilled than you because they can press buttons faster and better than any of us can, due to their "autism"), yet you also want to say it's a game for dumb people? The only reason it's a game for autismos in the first place is because normal-brained people don't have the focus and intellect to memorize shit like spacing, %, trajectory, DI, etc. You literally can't disprove pic related

>>383829084
>most of high tier are street fighter and bootlegs
hmmm i wonder who could be behind this post.

>>383843180
So does anyone in this entire thread feel like having, you know, a discussion, or anything resembling that, or is this secretly a thread dedicated to just greentexting every post and attaching a reaction image to it regardless of what it says? lotta retards giving non-arguments itt

>>383829084
>SFIV in top tier because of muh SFV hate
underage easily forget their was a time when SFIV was hated

>>383843437
No one is going to fall for this, its far too obvious.

>>383843708
That's not an argument. You've made no point toward establishing your superior tastes or opinions by giving a non-argument. Fuck off and kill yourself. Immediately.

I don't see you going!

Hurry the fuck up, not that hard to tie a noose you faggot

>>383833479
>Pokken Tournament should be in Low tier

I'd say it should at least be in mid-mid. It's got a really balanced roster, is super fundamental/mindgame focused without neglecting a benefifical degree of an execution barrier, and the characters all play pretty differently, and there's actually way more mechanical and system complexity and random tech there to dig into for really high level play then a lot of fighting games thanks to how it handles it;'s attack heights, the phase system, and a few other unique quirks it does.

>>383834681
Pokken is mostly similar to traditional 2d fighters, actually. I don't know where the meme of it being a plane based 3d fighter like tekken started but it's not.

It's a traditional 2d fighter. There's a specific unique mechanic that acts sort of like an infinite prevention system that forces a return to neutral that knocks the gameplay into an arena fighter format sort of similar to the gundam vs or dissida games, but it goes right back to traditional 2d after a single non projectile (or even projectile in some cases) hit.

Obviously, this does have a impact on how the game is played and adds some extra complexity, and some caracters actually do better in the 3d phase, so it's not completely traditional; but it's still better and more accurate to think of it as a traditional 2d fighter with just a specific mechanic then a 3d one or some sort of hybrid.

>>383829084
Consider killing yourself, mr. trash taste.

>>383829084
Exquisite taste, great job OP

>>383844083
>no new IP
wow really makes me think

I love how these threads always attract the 7 butthurt Skullgirls fans that actually bother playing the game. Nobody cares about your dead kuso.

>>383843437
if you honestly believe smash is harder than street fighter, kill yourself

>>383829084
Perfect

>>383843705

From a spectator standpoint, nothing beat USFIV. Nothing even comes close. Playing it was a chore though.

>>383844413
Funny, only two people in this thread have mentioned SG and neither of them seemed particularly butthurt

>>383829084
>Ultra SFIV top tier

I stopped here. 0/10 bait.

>>383844795
>Ultra SFIV not top tier

I stopped here. 0/10 bait.

>>383844459
Explain how anything in that image is not objectively factual. It's literally just describing both games, none of the points listed are opinions, they're facts.

SF *IS* fights on rails. You can only face your opponent and everything is made to be predictable (or was until SFV became rock paper scissors). SF is 2-way movement and a jump, Smash is 8-way movement + weight + knockback + trajectory, and so on, and on. I don't know how the fuck people can seriously argue that Smash is both

>played only by super-focused autists who are the only ones who can be high tier literally BECAUSE it is so technically focused and that level of skill can only be reached by pale nerds who exclusively practiced it for over a decade

>a game for children that doesn't take more skill than a conventional fighting game (impossible to be both)

At least one person in this thread right now could likely win SFV evo if they practiced, because the game is made to be fair even if one player is a scrub and one is a pro. the skills of pros are "baked" right into the game, rendering their personal techniques worthless because the game now allows anyone to do what they do.

Not one person in this thread could win a Smash major at ANY tourney, let alone at EVO. But of course that can't possibly be because the skill gap is higher, right? Because that would invalidate all the shit-talk you dump on the game, to admit that Smash isn't a fighting game because the skill ceiling is TOO HIGH for normal scrubs like YOU to master.

Disprove me. Debate me. You can't.

>CvsSNK2 isn't in elder god tier

List is trash by default, not gonna bother looking at anything else.

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>>383843437
kek. This is 10/10

>>383845261
>Roll cancel garbage
No

>>383829336
for nintendo fighters id say
Smash - Top/High Tier (depending on which title)
Arms - Mid Tier
Pokken - Mid Tier

>>383845604

>CvsSNK2
>garbage

Get the fuck out.

>>383845707
Fuck off casual

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>>383845109

>>383845981
>i have no means of debating you so i will just reply with a textless reaction image implying i am smarter than you and have better opinions without having to clarify any details of what those opinions are, since the assumption is obviously just that because i have no retort, no retort is needed because my view of the world is so obviously the correct one

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>>383846178
>Make obvious bait
>Become enraged when people dont bite

>>383846575
>i'll just keep calling it bait, because my worldview, which we have established is nigh universal, does not permit the concept of deliberation or discussion

how about you fucking explain what you think is wrong, that's how a fucking conversation works you troglodyte

if i present an argument and you can't do anything but post reaction gifs, then you are already admitting defeat

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>>383846760
This bait is getting stale, this is the last (you) you are getting from me.

>>383829084
Come on, the 6th gen MK games aren't THAT bad. I had a lot of fun with Deadly Alliance and Deception.

>>383846984
i genuinely wish i could find you and kill you in your sleep

>>383829084
>skullgirls
>anything

>>383848062
Youre saying skull girls should be higher?

>>383845109
I've played several Smash iterations and traditional fighting games competitively and I've found the former to be much less interesting in a number of ways.

The platforms rarely (sometimes, but rarely) add much to the actual strategy of the game, instead just acting as extension for combos. Whenever I'd play anyone on Battlefield or Yoshi's Story it would inevitably result in both of us going to the bottom platform in neutral; the platforms are just clearly designed for multiple players fighting at once. Obviously it's not THAT simple, and the platforms are used for more than JUST that, yet people act as if they're some new dimension when they're just not. Furthermore, I've always found corner pressure/escape to be far more engaging than ledge pressure; in any given game there's just so much more that you can do on either side in the former. I don't really see what is wrong with always facing your opponent in a 1v1 game, as that's what such games boil down to. What really is gained by not having to face your opponent? Getting to do a back air instead of a forward air? A traditional fighter will let you have at least the same amount of aerial attacks as Smash does at any given time.

>everybody is bait & retaliate
Dude, if SFV's bullshit everybody-is-rushdown is good for anything, it's disproving this claim.

>landing the finishing blow is a game of it's [sic] own only in Smash
Apparently you've never seen two good players when one is nearly dead. It's an entirely different game then. The enduring near-fall situation is conceded, that's pretty cool.

>spamming
Using the same move is incredibly easy to beat, and elaborate zoning setups are not "spam"

>combos are easy and predictable
It's true that recoil is the same, yet to put it concisely, there's a reason that you don't see the combos that people will do on a stunned opponent anywhere else in a match.

>>383833073
only good thing about brawl was its campaign mode
but make no mistake that mode was awesome
it was like kirby super star up to 11