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How many NES games still hold up today?

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How many NES games still hold up today?
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almost every single one of them
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>>383827182

Once a good game, always a good game. If it was good 25-30 years ago, it's still good now. If a good game ages badly, it's your perception that's changed.

To answer your question, OP, probably 150-175.
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>>383827182
unless you are a homo that can't stand graphics, a lot of games.
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>>383827182
Metroid, original zelda, and mario 1 and 3 are good
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>>383828461
>Metroid
Ahah no.
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>>383827182
Most good games have aged well.
All marios, most good actions platformers(like contra, castlevania, etc).
the sheer semplicity of their design is usually polished enough to give hours of fun.
Just prepare to die a lot until you get good, since a lot of the games longevity came from dying and dying again.
Would trade any shit of today for another Castlevania III.

be wary tho, not all nes games aged good.
Metroid 1 for example didn't.
castlevania II too.
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Mario is pretty good. I'd like to say Metroid but the controls I just can't man.
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Am I missing anything from this list aside excluding these game series?
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>>383829856
I don't get it.
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>>383829856
Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers
Little Samson
Gimmick
Abadox
Darkwing Duck
Adventures of lolo
Battletoads
Bionic commando
Blaster Master
Bubble Bobble
Bucky O'hare
Double Dragon
Crystalis
DuckTales
Journey to Silius
Kirby's adventure
Little Nemo
Metal storm
Power Blade
River City Ransom
Shadow of Ninja
Super Dodgeball
The Guardian Legend
Ufouria: The Saga
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>>383831086
>The Guardian Legend
ma nigga
Its probably the NES game I have the most fond memories of
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>>383831086
You don't have to censor Battletoads. It's one of the best games on the system. Every person I've ever met who hated the game either hasn't played it since they were a child, or they suck shit at games.
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>>383831086
Aren't there better versions of many of those games on other systems?
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>>383829856
Where the fuck is Super Mario Bros. 3, literally the best platform ever? By a long shot, I'd say
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>>383831901

Nope. Definitely not DuckTales, Bubble Bobble, or Double Dragon. All best right at home on the NES.
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>>383833185
I have the all stars version
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>>383827182
as a guy born in the 80's (won't give the exact year)

not many games hold up at all.

in general, games like SMB3, Megaman games and few others still hold up. even certain so called NES classics like TLOZ do not hold up well at all.
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Shatterhand
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>>383827182
i have about 200 titles on my raspberry pi that are all really good
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All the good ones are still good.
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>>383829141
Git gud
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>>383833615
>as a guy born in the 80's (won't give the exact year)
Why does that matter at all? Anyway you are wrong. TLOZ is still a good game
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>>383833615
>. even certain so called NES classics like TLOZ do not hold up well at all.
thats some shit taste over there, replayed TLOZ recently and had tons of fun.
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>>383829856
You're definitely missing:
Tiger Heli
Gunsmoke
Dragon Power (a sick dragonball game)
golf
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>>383833615
let me guess - 1989
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>>383833615

As a guy born in the 70s, I think plenty of NES games hold up fine, including Zelda.
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Most games but I'm not huge on Zelda 1 and Metroid 1 these days
In my opinion the controls don't make them very enjoyable
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>all these faggots shitting on Metroid 1
You shitters are such whiny bitches. Literally git gud.
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>>383829856
Whomp Em
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>>383827182
MegaMan
SMB3
Kirby's Adventure
That's it.
Most games are ugly and clunky as shit. SNES aged like fine wine, NES like milk.
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>>383834032
>>383833615
As a guy born in the 40s, I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about
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>>383833615
Your opinion is fucking irrelevant. I was born in 84 and at least 80-100 nes games still hold up today out of the 800+ that were made. There are also some rom hacks that exist that are just as good adding more to the library. Eat shit kid.
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>>383833615
89 here, fuck your shit taste
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NES games look like shit. SNES is way better.
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>>383833898
>>383833909
it matters because 99% of this board was probably born in the mid 90's and after. so it helps people to understand that I was able to play NES games on NES hardware.

as for zelda alttp craps all over that game. unlike smb3 which matches up pretty well with world and is obviously better, the same cannot be said for tloz.
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MEGAMAN SERIES
Mario 1, lost levels and 3 (fuck 2 that isn't a Mario game)
Zelda 1
Punch out
Castlevania 1 and 3
Ninja gaiden


That's it, that's all the nes has that holds up
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Why the fuck hasn't anyone said Punch-Out.
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>>383834141
Will getting good make me appreciate all the copypasted rooms and pointlessly long vertical corridors?
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>>383831086
>Bionic Commando
hell yeah, that game is fantastic
Rearmed is nice but i like the NES version better
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>>383834267
>>383834219
>>383834032
>>383834010
Stop being such nostalgiafags, the games don't hold up anymore. You're all acting like 90s kids .
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Don't have much experience with NES, can only comment on the few I've played.

Castlevania 1
Mario 1
Mega Man 2

Those seemed like they were still fun to me. Haven't played any of those games in like 9 years though.
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>>383834590
stop having shit opinions
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>>383827182
None
They were shit in the 80's and they're shit now. My mind was blown when I played SNES, and I never looked back.
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>>383827182
Only faggot redditors think that games can age such that they become bad games retroactively. The FC/NES had a huge library with a lot of crap but games that were good then are still good today.
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Zelda II is the only NES game worth playing in 2017
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>>383834590

I was an adult for most of the '90s, though. Stop acting like a millennial.
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I don't think a snappier, tighter, fuck-as-fuck platformer has been made since

Everything happens the frame you press it and it just feels so fucking good to play
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>>383834219
>80-100 games out of over 800

That is a very low amount of games then. Contrast that with the several hundreds of games on PS2 and PS3 that still hold up and on average have dozens of more hours of content than those super short NES games.
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Pretty much all of them that were good then are good now, like with all systems. I'll recommend Cabal, since nobody has mentioned it ITT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CDUTq4c-EU
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>>383834417
You really expect the younglings on here to have even played Punch-Out? Also I'm going to assume you were thinking Mike Tyson's Punch-Out here and not the one with Mr. Dream.
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>>383835445

I think good NES games hold up better than PS2 games, but that's me.

I'll still be playing NES games in 2040, meanwhile I'll probably think most of those old PS5 games with their aging realistic graphics aged like milk.
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>>383834590
You're way too young to have a valid opinion on this subject.
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>>383835445
What the fuck does any of that have to do with the discussion? OP asked if NES games held up today and that's it. He wasn't asking about comparing them other libraries. no-one talking about playstation except you sonybro. don't you have a console war shitpost thread you should be in?
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>>383827182

Not the jrpgs or brawlers. Many of the stgs (shooting games) were better in arcade or other systems. But most of the platformers and action games are some of the best ever.

>Zelda II
>Mega Man 2
>Little Samson
>Contra
>Super Contra

Just off the top of my head.
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>>383835775
Except thankfully for PS2 many of their games didn't have super detailed realistic graphics. Even the GTA games which have went with more realitic graphics starting with the fourth game.

Games like FF X and XII offer a person potentially hundreds of hours in replayablity. Even the best of NES games can be beaten in under an hour. They don't have the same playability or addictive gameplay.

SNES essentially perfected the style that was the NES. Which is why games went 3D soon after.
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>>383836556
Nah, the GTA games always looked like shit. FFX, too.

Also, there's nothing wrong with shorter games. Sometimes they're preferred.
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>>383827182

18 year old here
I played most of them
They don't hold up anymore, castlevania 1&2, Zelda1, and Megaman 2-5 are the only good ones that still age like fine wine

SNES is where it's at, those games are amazing, beating out even n64. Super metroid, Mario all stars, tons of great RPGs, just a great system overall.

>>383833615
I agree, shame most people are just nostalgiafagging it up and shitting on you
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>>383827182
all of them.

i lost count how many times i played and finished duck tales, blaster master, all the castlevanias, rad racer, mega mans, dragon warrior, and even fester's quest.
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>>383836735
>Nah, the GTA games always looked like shit.

That was a part of the charm fool. Had they looked like most modern games with their hyper realism they would have aged very poorly. Yet they still look good today because they are more stylized than realistic.
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>>383837013
I have mp3's that are older than you
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>>383836350
>>383835329
Why do some people like to pretend that Zelda 2 ever was anything other than a steaming pile of feces?
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>>383837013
>18 year old here
Stopped reading here.
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>>383837263
Because it's good and has some of the best sidescroller combat to this day. What's the matter, too hard for you?
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>>383837185

It sounds to me like you just have a bizarre taste for low poly jank with shit framerates. Hey, whatever floats your boat, I guess.
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>>383827296
fpwp
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>>383837263
Agreed, it's overrated as fuck and the stupid ass combat is annoying.
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>>383837263
nostalgia and denial

many have a hard time admitting that a mainline zelda game might not really be all that good
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>>383837423
Nobody ever crapped on FF games visuals like you have though. Even today they look good even if we don't consider the remasters. You are the one being ridiculous here.

Also nobody ever said these NES games look bad. They look very charming and timeless. But the gameplay is a whole other issue. Someone earlier even mentioned how awful Metroid is with its copy pasted rooms.
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>>383837013
>gen z who was a cum stain on his daddy's mattress in the 90's thinks he can pass off his opinions as fact
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>>383837826

I'm not being ridiculous, I just don't share in your nostalgia for low poly jank with terrible framerates. Sorry, bro. FFX looks like shit today.
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>>383837916
>TFW 94

Phew
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>>383838068
JUST MISSED IT, LUCKY
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>>383837826
There's nothing wrong with the gameplay in any of the timeless NES games. They're simple, but responsive. You don't need 11 buttons to create a good game. Complexity =/= better, necessarily.
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Fuck anyone born after 1985. May you all be eaten alive by Pokemon, Teletubbies, Shrek, and Spongebob. And whatever other stupid shit you're into.
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Super Mario Bros. 3
Mr Gimmick
Lolo 3
Punch Out
Little Nemo
Jackal
Bucky O'Hare

I like Mega Man, but it does not hold up. Neither does Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden, or Zelda 1/2,
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>>383838416
>I like Mega Man, but it does not hold up
Yes it does.
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>>383838416
>I like Mega Man, but it does not hold up. Neither does Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden, or Zelda 1/2,

For you.
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>>383827296
You're an idiot.
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>>383838290
That isn't the issue though. Too many of these NES games were hard where they didn't need to be. Nothing wrong with difficult games but NES games were often unfairly difficult and extremely obtuse. More buttons doesn't necessarily hurt either. Think of how much better Castlevania would have been with an extra button.
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>>383838565
It really doesn't. The simplistic art style and basic as fuck boss AI do not hold up one bit. If it came out today it would just be a basic indie game in the discount Steam bin.
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>>383838697

He's right, though.

If it was bad in 1989, it's still bad. If it was good, it's still good.
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>being bad at video games means it doesn't "hold up"
>8 bit games were full of "artificial difficulty"

just another day on 4chan.
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>>383838727

I can't complain about the difficulty of NES games since I got good at most of the great ones when they were released. I'm used to hard games. I wouldn't have it any other way, though I can see how the generations weaned on casual Sony garbage would have a problem with it.
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>>383838781
A shitload of NES games are buggy, broken and nearly unplayable. I wouldn't say that 'most of them' hold up
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>>383838730
>The simplistic art style
Charming and timeless
>and basic as fuck boss AI
It's the player that needs to react to their patterns, not the other way around. That's basic platforming design.
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>>383831532

retard alert
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>>383827182
smb2
smb3
gun nac
kirby adventure
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>>383838781
>standards never change
>conventions never change
>"good" and "bad" have eternally fixed meanings
You're a bit simple, too.

Many games back then were amazing because they did things for the first time, because they innovated, because they pioneered, not because they were excellent and refined specimens of their respective genres.
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>>383838068
that means you are a Millennial, which is even worse.
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>>383839054

Yeah. Those were the games that were bad even at the time. They hold up just as well now as they did then.
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>>383839009
Games like Ghosts and Goblins were hard because they also had shit framerate. But let us pretend we didn't hear that right?
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>>383839109

You either haven't played Battletoads, or you suck shit at games.
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>>383839287

>>383839287
>Many games back then were amazing because they did things for the first time, because they innovated, because they pioneered, not because they were excellent and refined specimens of their respective genres.

Those games were never good, though. You may have been wowed by them, like a baby being wowed by jangling keys, but if they were buggy or filled with bad game design, they were always bad.
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Typically what was good then is still good today. Games like mario, megaman, castlevania, and ninja gaiden are still as fun to play as they are today. There are also less talked about games like shatterhand, little samson, mr. gimmick, and guardian legend are still amazing today.
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>>383837658

I give not the slightest shits about Zelda games, but Zelda 2 is amazing. It's such a good combat game. It's so tight and well thought out. It has some of the best combat and mechanics ever in a 2D game.
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>>383839654
What game is that
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>>383827182
Plenty. People who say otherwise don't even play vidya. 2D is king.

Now, PS1 games like Dino Crisis? Aged like milk.
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>>383839382

>>383839382

Ghosts and Goblins was hard in the arcade too, where it had a fine framerate. It's not the shitty framerate that makes that game hard. Games like GnG were designed to be hard intentionally.
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>>383839840
Lilttle Samson / Lickle
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>>383839840
are you serious
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>>383839898
So you are going to defend those awful slow downs on the NES version? By the way the SNES game is no better with the framerate issues.
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>>383839981
Not everyone is an old fart like you, calm down gramps
>>383839953
Thanks anon
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Truly, the NES is the greatest casual filter of today.
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>>383840271
I love it too. I'm glad these faggots dismiss it, that just means there are more stellar NES games out there for me.
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>>383827602
When you ask if an old game is still "good" you're comparing it to modern games, thus you have the concepts of aging like wine or milk. It's entirely possible for a game to be good at the time of release yet ages awfully. Games that age badly usually banks on things like graphics or som new genre or gimmick that quickly gets improved rendering the game old and clunky, completely losing any luster. Games that age well usually feature timeless characteristics like the first zelda's exploration or megaman's 2D platforming perfection.
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>>383840389
>>383840271
Overwatch alone shits on every NES game ever made, aside from the Mario games. Get over it.
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>>383840052

No, the NES version of GnG is not good. It was programmed by one guy who programmed part time while he went to college because Capcom didn't program their games in-house yet. 1942 and Sonson have similar issues.
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>>383839628
>if they were buggy or filled with bad game design, they were always bad.
As I said, your premise of "good" and "bad" having eternally fixed meanings in the context of video games/video game design is ridiculous. What would "bad game design" even mean in the earliest days of home console development compared to today? Most (if not all) NES games were certainly better designed than their precursors on Atari 2600, etc., but that doesn't mean that this standard hasn't been surpassed further still by the SNES and so on.

Some games lucked out by having been designed in a timeless manner (I'd put Tetris and possibly Kirby in this category), but your "Good games then are good games now/bad games then are bad games now" babble is just a uselessly rhetorical oversimplification of the undeniable process of evolution in game development.
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>>383839840
>>383839654
>>383839953

Little Sampson, made by Takeru.
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>>383840503
this
nes games are fucking garbage and anyone who still plays them are pretentious fucks
at least snes is still good
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>>383840120
No problem. Phenomenal game, came out very late in the nes's lifespan and it really pushes the hardware to it's limits. It's level design is great, has four unique playable characters, and looks and sounds great. Sadly it sold like shit so copies are very rare, it is probably the second most expensive official nes game behind flintstones surprise at dinosaur peak.
>>383840389
I think these people are just too jaded or don't appreciate the simplicity of these games. >>383840497
The nes version did come out pretty early in the system's lifespan and capcom was still kind of an unknown game. I'm not saying it's a great port but it is understandable.
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>>383840481

Why would you compare them to modern games? Most modern games are casual trash. If anything, NES games look good by comparison. At least they don't baby you along or bog your experience down with garbage cutscenes or other uninteresting game-interrupting bullshit.
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>>383840503

Games don't age. You aged. Period.

Super Mario Bros., Contra, and Tetris are the exact same games today as they were 25 years ago.
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>>383840704
Even the most casual of games today are better than what the NES had. It's evolution.
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Ufouria: the saga

/v/ seems to really love metroidvania games so this is highly suggested. Game takes place on a big map you have to explore. You have four playable characters with different skills you have to utilize to travel across the map. Combat is a bit weird, your characters have no natural way to attack and instead it kind of works like doki doki panis/SMB2 where you pick up enemies and throw them at each other.
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>>383840956

Depends what you want out of a game. If you want long stories with long, uninteresting dialogue, today's games are absolutely better than NES games.

But if you just want a simple, challenging action game or something that will hold your attention span for a couple of hours, I'd gladly take many NES games over most games today.
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None
2D is inferior to 3D gaming 9 out of 10 times.

That 1 is saved for super mario and dkc on snes.
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>>383839654
>Guardian Legend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V9OgW1U2_o
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>>383833615
as a girl born in 1998, all nes games are outdated trash and i don't even need to play them to figure that out
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>>383841271

Disagree. 2D games are usually more gameplay focused, have tighter, more responsive controls and have usually have better looking art design. There's a reason why SNES games still hold up today while PS1 and PS2 games do not.
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>>383840704
Why? When someone asks if a game is good i assume they are essentially asking if it's worth playing now, not something stupid like if it was worth playing 30 years ago. Thus the game gets compared to all other games including recent ones. There's boatloads of good games getting released today, however the AAA business is largely complete cancer, that i agree with.
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>>383841758
>Implying SNES was all 2D
>Implying PS is only 3D
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NES games have generally aged better than PS1 games. That's objective.
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>>383841959
Why should I adjust my personal standards to match that of people weaned on casual horse shit? That's pretty stupid. I don't care what "modern standards" are. I think modern standards are below the standards of 25 years ago, personally.
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>>383838416
>Castlevania doesn't hold up
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NES games are awesome. I would like it if the casual trash in this thread left /v/ forever.
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>>383842230
Despite blury textures PS1 games were generally much deeper and NES games had simplistic animations to match the simple graphics.

Symphony of the Night was a PS1 game.

SotN vs original Metroid which holds up ... hmm
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>>383834141
Metroid runs and plays like shit
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>>383843261

Symphony of the Night is the best PS1 game ever by a wide margin. It holds up better.

I'd probably play Castlevania 3 over it, though. SOTN is good, but it's a bit on the easy as shit side. Once you level up to a point the game becomes mindlessly easy.
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>>383827182
Considering the vast majority of NES games are simple platformers, most of them.
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>>383843261
Both hold up. A significant thing to understand when discussing old games is context.
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>>383843894
There were also a couple Mega Man X titles, a couple Metal Slugs, Ray Man, OddWorld, GTA2

Early 3D games like Warhawk ruined the PS1's reputation.
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>>383827182
Played every one recently. Maybe 10 or so games hold up. Even then, most of them shit the bed with low-quality filler content once you progress far enough. Check out:

Air Fortress
Alfred Chicken
Bad Dudes
BB Car
Bee-52
Demon Sword
Felix the Cat
Fire Hawk
Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
Kick Master
Kickle Cubicle
Rainbow Islands
Zombie Nation

BBCar is an (enhanced) arcade clone, and it's the best game on the system.
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