Which was better?

Triple deluxe is one of the shittiest kirby games, thats unfair

>>383821005
Both a good time, Robobot was a lot more memorable and fun.

Robobot is straight up a more challenging and memorable version of Triple Deluxe

TD had pyribbit so it loses by default.

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>>383821074
Triple Deluxe was pretty fun to play, if only if it weren't for the Hypernova section. It was fun to see what it does for the first time, but it got way too repetitive. Which is a shame since the levels that feature them also have a great level design prior to that.

Robobot is better.

Triple Deluxe had worst level design and accelerometer sections were too forced.

Never finished it.

Robobot does everything better.

Robobot wins in every way even with minigames, but hey without triple deluxe we would have never had PR so I can't hate it

I haven't played triple deluxe but man robobot was fantastic.
https://youtu.be/sWPwy4dL6AE

>>383822972
>accelerometer sections were too forced.
I thought they weren't that bad. It was just a simple turn left or right with the 3DS gyroscope, unless I'm forgetting something else.

I loved TD, but PR blows it out of the water.

>>383821005
Robobot

>>383821005
almost everything in robobot is taken from another game so TD by default

>>383821005
>>Which one had the better final boss death?
It's hard to argue against Star Dream's QTE, but in terms of the boss fight I preferred Sectonia.

Seems like we all agree Robobot is the best 3DS Kirby game
When are we gonna get more Kirby for Switch news though, that's what I wanna know.

>when TD actually had good bosses easily it but its bad ones were super bad
>Robobot by a long, very consistent shot
>none of them were very good
>Hypernova is cooler thematically and shit but Robobot was better implemented as an actual game mechanic, I don't like either though
>Sectonia was a much better fight than mediocre Star Fox

The Robobot Armour music is better than Hypernova's, despite not playing as much throughout the game. And this playing through the final level is just fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQCX4lrXzMg&index=59&list=PLiGvWycRgz6gRBOA_epJJg-hGgwN0oXDz
>>383825380
If we do get more info this year, I think it'll be in the last quarter.

>>383825206
I was disappointed fighting Sectonia's soul final phase since it was just a mishmash of other soul attacks. Although the battle before that was tense as all hell, especially when you're trying to keep an ability throughout the entire fight. Star Dream Soul OS final phase was better done in my opinion, but like this anon said >>383825631, the battle before that gets a bit tiring if you know what you're doing.

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>>383825380
>>383826779
What I'm really wondering is when are we going to get more details about this game?

I've yet to play either, but I have played the demo for PR and it was pretty fun. Also heard that PR is far more challenging than TD.

If I can find it somewhere cheap, then I'll pick it up, till then I'm gonna pick up TD since I can grab it for under $20.

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>>383826779
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQCX4lrXzMg&index=59&list=PLiGvWycRgz6gRBOA_epJJg-hGgwN0oXDz
I really hope the final battle for the next game does something way more insane.

>>383826780
I thought her flying at the screen was a bit confusing, because it didn't seem like a legitimate threat. Her story mode fight was a lot more enjoyable, considering everything that led up to it and the fight itself. My problem with Star Dream is having to mash B to do maximum damage and clear the debris away, but the Soul phase makes up with the challenge.

>>383827236
TD is pretty good too, but the Hypernova will get monotonous if you have to replay those sort of stages again. Though it does feature the Beetle and Bell power which is only in that game.

>>383827652
I can but believe in Hal to make a suitably exciting final boss. This time for sure, I will play the game and not find out in advance what the boss is. As fun as it is to have it revealed on here, playing the game is the best way to do it.

>>383828079
>he was spoiled on Sectonia and Star Dream beforehand
You poor soul

>>383821005
this is not even a contest
Robobot is objectively better than TD

>>383828392
It's one of my biggest regrets, I'd really like to wipe my memory of Kirby so I can experience it all new; I only played Triple Deluxe earlier this year, and had a fucking blast with it.

>>383828392
I knew nothing about Sectonia, but I had seen the Drill Kirby screenshot and knew that it went full Gurren Lagann. I was not dissapointed, holy fuck.
I might have to go replay the fight now

>>383828079
Better pray and hope you get an early copy of the game and get to the finale before we start spoiling it. It is very hard trying to be spoiler free.

>>383821005
Robobot is the only answer

I don't know a single person who prefer Triple Deluxe over Robobot desu
I remember playing like 5 mins of Triple Deluxe and got bored as fuck. I literally sold my copy after that

>>383830035
It's literally the same as Robobot liar

>>383829862
I hardly expect the threads to be spoiler free. I might import the JP version depending on release date differences, and following Hal's recent trends, hopefully it'll be multi-language. The only sure-fire way to avoid spoilers to not use the internet until I finish story mode and the True Arena. This time for sure.
>>383830035
You're missing out on a fantastic final boss.

>>383821005
only good thing about TD is Dedede mode.
Robobot is better in every way. Mechs are a way better gimmick than hyper kirby.

>>383830309
>Mechs are a way better gimmick than hyper kirby.
That's hardly fair, mechs are better than everything

>>383821005
Robobot is literally Triple Deluxe but with more features. It's not even a question.

>>383830309
Dedede Tour is way too much fun. Especially with those hidden warp areas and the infinite hammer throws.

>>383830190
Same engine doesn't necessarily means same game, anon

Triple Deluxe is slow as fuck compared to Robobot, which have more things happening in a level plus Robobot gimmick is actually fun

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The Ice Kirby nendoroid is scheduled for a fitting December release, nothing else about the Robobot Armour currently, although I dread the price.

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>>383830371
This man knows what he says.

Robobot's wins pretty easily, but I still prefer Triple Deluxe due to Dededetour. The Hammer was fucking built for going fast.

>>383830718
And just in time for that unknown Kirby game that is supposed to come out that month too.

>>383831528
That entire mode just made me wish for a Dedede game. No, Drum Dash Deluxe doesn't count.

>>383822640
This. Robobot seems like a natural extension of Kirby's abilities and allowed for a wide variety of level design surrounding it. Hypernova is literally a more repetitive "Press X to solve puzzle" situation that was already repetitive in RtDL.

>>383821005
Robobot wins no fucking contest.

Is the Dreamstalk still there?
Didn't see it in Robobot...

>>383832980
According to the pause description for Sectonia Clone, they took samples from the Dreamstalk in order to recreate her image.

I so badly want to get Planet Robobot

first Kirby game btw

>>383833959
play dreamland

Neither.
Both games contribute the slow stagnation of Kirby with aping Return to Dreamland.

>>383832191
The worst part about Hypernova was that it was an unskippable section. Even the Super Abilities had sections that you were able to skip, plus fighting all those mini bosses without using it was stupidly hard and fun. Even then, there was the black and white void area that was also fun to play, in which the end of Hypernova didn't have that much challenge except for the very few mini-bosses that feature in it.

Are HAL rooms real?
I've never come across one.

>>383834939
Yes, they're just very well hidden.

>>383834939
Easiest one to find is in level 1-2 of Kirby's Adventure. Keep on going until you see a warpstar. Don't get on it and go the opposite way until you don't see it anymore. Then go back and you'll see that the warpstar is no longer there. Keep on going and you'll find HAL written in Star Blocks. This was fixed in the 3DS port of Adventure since another developers fixed all known glitches and slowdowns.

>>383836740
If that's the easiest then no wonder I've never found any.

>>383837095
You could find it the same way in Returns to Dreamland, Triple Deluxe, and Planet Robobot in certain levels. Although those games each has 2 HAL rooms to find.

>>383836123
>tfw he'll never come back

>>383830305
>hopefully it'll be multi-language
I'm glad that this will be a trend in Kirby games. No more wondering what the dialogue/pause description says with misinterpretation.

Triple Deluxe had a weaker gimmick but stronger bosses (outside of Pyribbit), partially because more of them were new, or at least surprising. Both games are built off of Return to Dream Land's formula, but Triple Deluxe changed things more than Robobot did, and was better at surprising the player. Clanky Woods doesn't compare to Flowery Woods for this reason. Robobot has too many bosses that return from older games (some of them barely older), and even bosses recycled within its own story mode. Star Dream was a cool set-piece but wasn't as good as Sectonia as a final boss. Planet Robobot should have given you a second phase against Haltmann with you in the Robobot armor, and the fight against Star Dream's core should have been part of the main story. Then maybe it would compare to Triple Deluxe's five phase finale, which was bolstered by feeling like I was actually playing a new game.

Planet Robobot spends too much time going, hey, remember that? Remember this? Remember when you fought this guy? Check this shit out, this guy's like Nova, you know him. I can't deny enjoying all of those things, but taking a step back from it, I'm gonna give more points to something new. If Hal was a rougher developer, maybe Triple Deluxe would have been messier, and Robobot would come out and refine a bunch of elements and feel more valuable for it, but that isn't the case, they did a great job with TD so there wasn't much left to do in a sequel following the same formula. I was still glad to get more of it, though.

>>383843960
That's a fair argument against Planet Robobot. Plus Triple Deluxe introduced spot dodging and increase uses of background/foreground interaction. Although Planet Robobot brought back the pseudo-3D ring areas which has battles fought like Whispy in Kirby 64. In my opinion I felt Clanky Woods beat Flowery Woods since it was a more mobile version of him compare to older version of it. Plus there were three different phases, each having attacks different from any other bosses. The disappointing part about it is the fact that none of the bosses did that immense change in battlefield like the first boss did.

Robobot is simply the same thing with slightly more challenge and a gimmick that sets it further apart from RTDL.

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>>383821005
>terrible framerate
>shit minigames
>can't play as the self proclaimed king
>remove Bell and Beetle for shitty Mirror and Poison.
>Gyro sections replaced with retarded wrench segments.

B-but, at least the Robobot theme that plays all but four times is pretty rad, right?!

I almost feel like these games were meant to be one but were split apart at some point.

>>383823264
Why do people forget RTDL existed?

>>383848324
Because the topic is which of the main two Kirby 3DS games is better.

>>383821005
>Which one had the better bosses?
TD
>Which one had the better level design?
PR
>Which one had the better minigames?
TD
>Which one had the better superpower gimmick?
PR by far since it meshed well with platforming and puzzles
>best final boss
PR because despite the fanservice, it brought back a shmup section
you forgot another important thing
>which had better EX Mode
PR, although DDDT warps would have been nice to bring back
>better music
PR has better remixes, TD has better originals
>better powerups
TD, I can't even remember using the new powers often in PR but Beetle and Archer were super memorable to me in TD

>>383847895
I don't know if I remember correctly, but in a Miiverse post the director said that they had received news from Nintendo HQ to make another game on the spot. So they used previous assets and tried to make the game different to tell it apart from Triple Deluxe.

>>383847750
>shit minigames
I'll give you that, I really did like Drum Dash and Kirby Fighters.

>>383848660
>Which one had the better bosses?
>TD

Outside of the final boss, Planet Robobot bosses theme wise felt kinda eh since Susies boss fight gets repeated for Haltmans and Meta-Knight gets repeated twice too.

>>383847502
>PR's True Arena gives you only cherries and a pep brew only
Jesus. Hope the next arena is even tougher.

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>>383848660
>>Which one had the better bosses?
>TD

>>383821005
The only things that TD has that are better are the minigames and Moonstruck Blossom. Robobot otherwise beats it across the board.

Robobot, No question.

The Hypernova sections in Triple Deluxe killed that game for me.

>>383849896
git gud

>all these people saying TD had better minigames
It had one better minigame and one worse minigame. Both of Robobot's sub-games are way better than Fighters.

Robobot is better than Triple Deluxe, and it's not even close.
Triple Deluxe is one of the most boring kirby games I've ever played.

>>383850231
>Moonstruck Blossom
God what I give to hear that, Mind in a Program, and CROWNED in a live orchestra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGGVWGJ0ZiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDT2k4IEC6s

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>>383850646
>Kirby Fighters
*blocks your path*

>>383850637
Is there actually a way to beat him without having to wait around forever for him to get out of the background?

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Dedede is perfection

>>383850728

They have a Kirby orchestra going on in Japan right now.

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>>383822640

>>383852090
I know, but we either have to wait for the official cd soundtrack to release or wait for the live Niconico livestream to come.

>>383850646
I like Fighters more than Clash. I like Drum Dash Deluxe and 3D Rumble about the same though, I love score attack. TD had Dededetour though, which I'll take over a third Meta Knightmare, so it comes out on top for me in subgames, if you count Dededetour and Meta Knightmare as subgames.

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>yfw they reveal a full 3d hack n slash Kirby game for the Switch

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>>383852285
Is this how it looks when someone gets eaten by Kirby's hypernova?

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>>383852652

>>383849792
>Add a Classic Mode option
>All bosses in order
>No beginning copy room
>No break rooms
>No food
>Not needed for 100%
>Reward is the better file select/title screen

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>>383853532
>Reward is the better file select/title screen
S-stop
I was so disappointed when I found out that nothing happened when you platinum all the stages in Blowout Blast.

When is Waddle Dee getting his own sub-game like meta knightmare?

>>383821005
Planet Robobot
I may be biased because I love Mechs, but the Robobot armor is objectively better than the Hypernova gimmick. I'd say Robobot also had the better soundtrack and puzzles too. My only gripe with Robobot is that most of its boss battles weren't completely original, in which I'd say Triple Deluxe beats it with its share of newcomer bosses.

>>383854156
When Waddle Dee becomes a major character.

>>383854156
If his gimmick is that he travels in a psuedo-controllable party that includes a Parasol Dee and a Waddle Doo then sure. Otherwise no thanks

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>>383854410
>implying he isn't

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>>383821005
Who would like another True Arena like Planet Robobot?

Locking the EX verison of the Final boss behind The True Arena, so you're unable to really get a handle of the boss patterns before being thrown in, knowing if you lose you're gonna have to do it all over again.

>>383821005
Frankly both games have their pros and cons. There were some tracks that I loved and some that I didn't liked. Both gimmick powers doesn't really feel like they were utilized fully, Mega SUCC was only good for clearing out road blocks while the Robobot was only used here and there despite being the main selling point of the game.

BUT

Regardless of how both games went, Robobot have the hypest final boss battle ever.

>>383821005
I think the better question is which game has the best lore/
Or even better, which game is the creepiest / saddest with its final boss' story and ending?

>>383855438
Triple Deluxe has the deepest lore of any Kirby game.

>>383855493
>Turns out the Mirror was behind the whole time.
>Turns out Sectonia was once like Taranza
>Dark Mind corrupted her
>Turns out there is a Dark Dedede, Dark Taranza and even Dark Susie
>Turns out just like Dark Matter posesses Dedede, Dark Mind posesses Dark Dedede

I thought Sectonia was more hype than Star Dream. Just barely though. But not only that, but having the entire segment be a shump was bad, it's not too much fun to replay since there's only one way you can do it once you know what to do.

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>>383855438
>the confusion about why Susie didn't recognize Haltmann and if she was or wasn't the real deal
Without that Miiverse Director Room, we would still be arguing about that shit.

>>383855750
>Dedede completely destroyed the dimension mirror from the inside

>>383821005
I don'y know. But i can say RtDL is better than TD.

>>383856994
Nah. Both TD and PR improved on RtDL.

>>383857089
TD most definitely is not. Its just worse RtDL. Similar level structure but know there's those DK barrels everywhere and the rainbow power up is shit compared to the super power ups.

>>383857247
The level design improved dramatically when they didn't have to build every level to accommodate four fuckheads simultaneously.

>>383857382
I plyed through both in single and I don't know what issue you are talking about. Are you saying rtdl had too much open space?

>>383857382
>>383857498
Kinda felt that too. I've played Triple Deluxe again and felt there was a stronger emphasis on level design compare to Return to Dreamland. The only thing that made things a bit boring was the hypernova section. Which sucks because the stages are pretty fun to play when you take that out.

>>383857382
Triple Deluxe doing the foreground and background thing also gave the level design a lot more depth

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>>383858371
>Triple Deluxe doing the foreground and background thing also gave the level design a lot more depth.

>>383854827
I actually kind of like it since it gives you something unknown to look forward to. You know all of the bosses either fairly well or completely by that point, so not having it would both lower the already small amount of challenge Kirby has, and make it less entertaining or replayable because you can fight everything there whenever you want in the other modes. Basically, the extra bosses are a better incentive to keep trying the true arena than just a congratulations screen.

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>>383858371
>a lot more depth

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ba-bump

>>383858591
This. It's way more satisfying fighting a difficult secret boss that is hard to get to rather than having a special message appearing saying thanks for playing.

>>383862968
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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I just finished triple deluxe
Holy shit this game sucked
I know Kirby games aren't exactly hard, but this game was just brain dead
-The puzzles suck
-The gameplay feels slow
-The levels are so linear it makes new super Mario bros seem expansive
Its a pretty game but this game just feels phoned in

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Get them to make a Kirby game

>>383864449
>linear as a flaw

die

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>>383864915
Not that anon, but it can be a flaw if the levels aren't made as interesting. He's just stating his opinion on the game, nothing wrong with that.

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>>383854156

When he's kidnapped.

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>>383865312
But who would do such a thing?

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>>383865312
>Kirby using superstar enemies as partners instead of the RtDL crew
>No sign of said crew at the moment

Still too soon to make bets, but I'm preparing regardless.

Robobot by a large margin. Hypernova was too gimmicky, the Robobot was put to way better use.

>>383837095
If you can reach a moon in the background in a Kirby game, chances are a HAL room is hidden in there.

>>383866293
I would. And then I'd hug the fuck out of him.

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>>383868268
Who wouldn't?

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>tfw no more Eggerland games

>>383821005
Holy shit am I the only person who likes both Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot and thinks they're both good games? Honestly, they borrow so much from each other than it's like comparing Pokemon Colosseum to Pokemon XD, so the differences aren't huge.

>Bosses
Have to give this to Triple Deluxe mostly on the basis of PR's final boss being StarFox except for Heart of Nova, instead of traditional like all of TD's. Plus, PR has you fight Mecha Knight twice and reuses both King Dedede stuff for the clones and 3/4 of Holo Defense API is reused, Galacta Knight and Sectonia are also reused. Also, fighting Susie twice and President Haltmann using a similar robot to fight Kirby. While Triple Deluxe has reused stuff, too, it doesn't to the extent of PR.

>Level Design
Again, similarities abound. TD had nature and PR had technology. More of a preference thing honestly. PR was more creative with stuff like the ice level being an ice cream freezer and the music city level, rather than the stuff mario gets made fun of for, which TD kinda fell into to a degree, so I give this to PR.

>Minigames
Gotta go with TD. As much as I like Pr's, Team Kirby Clash is just standard mostly reused boss fights with stats thrown in, and 3D Rumble, while fundamentally good, is a little too simple to get any real mileage out of, especially in light of how long 3D games have been out. Kirby Fighters and Dedede's Drum Dash go into genres that are more of a breath of fresh air given Kirby's main genre, even if the latter isn't a very strong minigame.

>Superpower Gimmick
PR. It basically combined the Super Ability's variety with Hypernova's puzzle solving capabilities. The best of both worlds.

>Death
I'll give PR the slight edge because I'm biased in that Gurren Lagann's my favorite anime and it was easier to grasp what to do because it was the same screwing I'd been doing through the game. I got hit by Sectonia's beam once because it wasn't as clear as spitting back missiles.

>>383874014
Also, I'll add one more category.

>New Abilities
Not counting returning abilities like Jet and Mirror, TD. Not only does it have four to PR's three, but Poison is basically water with a new coat of paint, and it doesn't do a whole lot of damage to counteract its damage over time playstyle, something that water didn't have as much of a problem with. Beetle's like a Suplex that can do more than throws and one kicking move, Archer works well no matter where you're fighting from. Circus and Bell are just okay IMO, but I feel there's reason for people to like them. Doctor and ESP are a bit better than the two just mentioned, but only partially compare to Beetle and Archer in terms of fun factor IMO. Either way, both selections are solid.