Total War

I know it is sad but the only people who care about total war are in /twg/. We'll never be mainstream enough for /v/ to hate us.

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>buying the same game three times

>>383805149
denuvo's dead, anon

I don't like Malekith's design in this game. His WAR appearance was far more fitting and sinister.

>>383805125

I hate this game because it means 1 more dev cycle without Three Kingdoms: Total War

Skaven when?

>>383805280
CA has more than one Dev team m8

>Release game
>Oh wait lets cut some factions and release them as DLC
>Hold on lets just make them pay for a full new game LOL!

>>383805303
probably next; even if they want to make them a surprise, they'll want yet another army shitting on the high elves before any high elf trailers come

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I just want my Medieval III

Wait, there's a second TW warharmmer?

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>>383805423
>incest wars simulator

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>>383805149
>people still spouting this meme
It's called a stand-alone expansion you post-2000 mong. It's four entire races that all play completely differently that aren't the same from the "first game", played on entirely different continents with new mechanics on top of the fact they all merge into one. If you're complaining about price, then what fucking games have you been buying the last 5 years? It's jewy and shitty, but that's how it is in this Brave New World.

>>383805385
Good fuck elves

>>383804559
>the trailer starts
>ANIKI...
wut?

Garbage. The first one is the worst TW game and this is just more of that casualized cancer.

>>383805795
Malekith is Darth Vader

>>383805280
Since when have SEGA and Koei been the same company?

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>>383805818
>historyfag tears

>>383805671
>TW: Warhammer
>Initial release date: 24 May 2016

LOL They barely waited a year before re-releasing their cashgrab garbage.

Fuck off CA shill.

>>383805896

>chaos sorcerers and faggy elves fighting about whose sorcery is the strongest
>its actually the smelly neet pepe wizard

Based Slann

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>>383805854
Is warhammer actually a hell?

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>>383806037
Praise the Slann

>>383805671
It's not an expac, it's a """"""new game"""""" which ties to the old one, I doubt they'll charge 30-40 bucks for it, stop defending this shit.

>>383805149
>what is an expansion

>>383806152
>stand alone expansions aren't a thing
Dawn of war 1 and 2 did the literal same thing with their expansions.

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>>383805671
>$59.99 for an ''''''Expansion''''''

>>383806152
This fuck CA. They've been increasingly Jewy with every iteration. I'm sick of it.

>>383806657
Stand alone expansions shouldn't cost the price of a new base game, and from the top of my head I can't think of a single expnsion from the CD days which did, stop pretending this is OK, you fucking cunt.

TOMB KINGS WHEN

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>>383804559
Can't wait to summon my you-know-what all over their pansy elven faces

>>383806923
How many of those expandalones doubled the content of the base game?

>>383806923
>base game ships with 4 races
>next game ships with 4 races
>they shouldn't cost the same.
sure

>>383807152
The fact that you think that releasing a chopped up game with only 4 factions and then a "new one" with 4 more on top of all the fucking DLC shows it's not worth arguing with you, keep giving CA those shekels.

>>383807905
4 culture groups, anon, which is more than most Total War games launch with.

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>graphics on High with unit details on Ultra
>60+ fps during benchmark
>30-60 fps in-game
well,shit.

>>383807243
>creating game from scratch costs the same as just adding new factions
I want to be a shill too, is the pay good?

>>383807905
>chopped up
>future content is chopped up from the present content in the game.

>>383807905
>chopped up game
Explain how the fuck it was chopped up. Beastmen and wood elves did not fucking exist before they became DLC. Chaos was the only race in the base game that was sold as a preorder bonus and they were still present in the fucking game even if you didn't buy them just like everything else. Only Grim and the Grave and King and the Warlord could possibly count and those fucks were not pre-release content withheld to sell later nor do they stop you from playing to your best abilities. All the rest of the DLC is goddamn free so do explain what shit was made and purposefully withheld to sell as DLC?
>only 4 factions
Okay, show me another total war with as much unit diversity as warhammer. I'll wait but I know i'm going to be waiting a long ass fucking time because every other total war has every single faction with the same roster of human with X weapon with differing stats and colors.

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>>383807905
It's better value than any other Total War game though unless you're retarded

>muh 8 countries of literally who reskinned barbarians are all separate factions

>>383806037
It's pretty much Teclis, the ones that can do it better than him are very dead.

That doesn't always stop them to be fair. But he was pretty much the good guy equivalent to Nagash by the end and was being set up as such since like, 5th edition.

>>383807905
At least it's honest and not going "12 factions... do you want to play as red rome, blue rome, green rome? how about white greece, blue greece, purple greece, orange greece or light blue greece?"

Will I be able to choose the "americas" as a starting point for my Beastmen campaign?

>>383808895
Definitely not Lustria, maybe Naggaroth. Lizards cleared the fuck outta all the beasties in not!South America.

Still wonder how the Southlands will be relevant if there's no Tomb Kangz in between it and the Badlands

>>383805884
do you think KT has exclusive adaptation rights to the Three Kingdoms period in China?

>>383808442
They didn't create the first game from scratch either though.

Also your logic is flawed. The cost of admission for entertainment is not weighted by how much the creators spent on it. You didn't have to pay $200 to watch Avatar, even though it cost 20x what the average movie does to produce.

>>383809423
Feral lizards and orcs
Skaven settlements
More pressure on orcs and dorfs from Araby and feral armies
Eventually adding in Kangz

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>>383808665
That's historically accurate though.
Just wait until they come out with their warring states period china game and everyone looks like pic related.

>>383809423
probably going to be new starting locations for Lord packs and the eventual TK DLC

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What they are doing is probably the same as what they did with Total War:Shogun 2 when they released Total War:Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai

>>383804559
>Hydra
Yes, please.
I'm excited to play all the new factions, besides High Elves.

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>>383806078
This is you.

>Morathi isn't topless

Dropped. Preorder cancelled.

>Still have only finished an Empuire/Dawi campaign in the first one
Will I ever get around to finishing Greenskinz/Brettonia/Cunts?

>>383811454
Outlook not so good.

>>383806152
>I doubt they'll charge 30-40 bucks for it
Yeah, retail price is $60, but you can easily find it for $35 if you aren't a stupid piece of shit, stop using that as your lazy fallback excuse for not wanting to spend money on anything.

>>383811454
I've done Empire, Dwarf, Orcs and Brets. I've done Wood Elf and Beastmen specific campaigns as well.

If Mazdamundi doesn't get Zlaqq as a mount option I'm burning down CA. First they take my topless Morathi (and Bloodwrack Medusa I assume) I can't take no Zlaqq. Also all the new gimmicks they've added to factions is odd but I don't mind.

>>383811454
Brettonia is pretty easy and fast. Orcs are second hardest after the Empire due to being neighbours with overpowered stunties.
Vampires are just boring with that corruption minigame crap.

>>383811729
I spend money on a lot of games, I actually just bought an actual expac, I just refuse to give money to Shekelative Assembly, and will pirate II just like I pirated I

>>383811346
>>383811778

>google image search morathi

Oh my

>>383811454
Bretonnia is fun as heck

Greenskins are the most fun in the game if you have King and the Warlord

Cunts are alright

>>383811890
Surprised they kept the incest in desu.

>>383811658
Already cut my losses with beastmeme and minotaur fun. Fucking elven scum never in my life.
>>383811778
Never count out CAs laziness and willing to dime and shekel.
>>383811790
Yeah I tried them for a bit on veryhard/legendary but fucking archers routed my Boar Boyz which triggered me.

>>383811882
>I spend money on a lot of games
>I just refuse to give money to Jews
>in an industry full of companies that do worse shit all the time
You buy one game a year at most.

>>383812120
What? How is not giving Mazdamundi the Zlaqq option (when he never got a model) and not having topless Morathi saving CA money?

>it's a stand alone game
>but it's also an expansion

pretty cool imo

>>383812213
I buy more than that, I just don't buy every overhyped AAA thrash by companies who will fuck me over one way or anotehr (and even then, there are exceptions since I bought R6S despite vowing never to support Ubisoft ever again in my life)

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>>383808551
>have to pay four whole dollars in order to unlock blood and gore in a war game.
>they're probably going to make me pay another 3.99 usd to unlock it in the expansion.

so is this actually an expansion or are you guys just memeing?

will I need the original to play?

>>383812487
standalone
if you own both games you can play the megacampaign that combines both continents

>>383812487
If you buy this game, you play the 4 factions (Dark Elves, Skaven, High Elves, Lizardmen) and in the New World only. You don't need the 1st.

If you buy the 1st as well, you unlock the Large Grand Campaign, where the two maps combine together and the factions from the first can be fought and done shit with.

So if you want a much bigger game, buy the 1st as well. Don't care about those factions? Don't.

>>383812396
>(and even then, there are exceptions since I bought R6S despite vowing never to support Ubisoft ever again in my life)

In other words, you pretend to have principles because it makes you feel better about pirating whatever you feel like pirating.

>>383812120
Boar boyz are just kinda crap overall, the big'un variant though is a must have due to being the only Orc unit with proper anti-large. If you want cavalry just get gobbo spider riders in large numbers, or even squig riders.
Also, playing as Wurrzag makes the Orc campaign a lot more fun. There's also Skarsnik, but his playstyle is a very masochistic sort of fun. Mostly because AI fucking Belegar will shit out more stacks than you, ignoring his +50% upkeep. And if you thought fighting stunties was bad with Orcs you haven't tried fighting them with pure gobbo army.

>>383812396
So you're a hypocrite pretending you're 'saving the industry' by pirating shit? Just say you're cheap lad, can do it and won't get punished.

>>383812564
>>383812646

>paying $150 to play

jesus i might as well build a tabletop army

>>383812695
Have I ever said anything about principles, you fucking dolt? I couldn't give a single fuck about "consumer principles", I'd just rather spend my money on stuff I can't actually steal or pirate. I only bought R6S because it's multiplayer therefore a bitch to play pirate, stop projecting.

>>383805671
funny

>>383812837
if you're fighting Dwarfs as Skarsnik before claiming K8P/before absorbing the main Greenskin faction, you're doing it wrong

>>383805671
>Game is called Total War Warhammer "2"

HEY GUYS ITS AN EXPANSION

Are there rats living under our cities?

>>383812396
>Total War
>AAA

>>383805671
>standalone expansion
>x 2
No anon it's what we call a sequel

>>383813013
anyone with half a brain can see that it is, but maybe that's asking too much of the average /v/ poster

>>383812858
I'm not a hypocrite and I don't give a fuck about the industry, there will always be autists making single-man good games if this shit ever ends (which I hope it does). The only companies I have a modicum of respect and avoid pirating are Id and Firaxis, but even then, I pirated both D44M and Civ VI

>>383808093
Why you lie?

>>383813104
>The only companies I have a modicum of respect and avoid pirating are Id and Firaxis, but even then, I pirated both D44M and Civ VI

nigga does anything you say make sense

>>383810632
Except Fall wasn't $60 at release...

>>383813124
You're right. 5 culture groups with Bretonnia.

>>383812864
a thousand point army will run you $250+ and you'll only have the one army instead of 12

>>383805423
>sieges somehow get even worse

>>383812937
>Have I ever said anything about principles
>I'd just rather spend my money on stuff I can't actually steal or pirate.
>stop projecting.
You were just fucking saying that you don't spend money on games from companies that "fuck you over" you dumb piece of shit. Thanks for proving my original comment >>383811729
Completely correct.

I'm glad people feel special for not understanding anything about game development costs or corporate goals and feel the need to constantly bitch and moan about how a company wants them to spend money on a product.

>>383808442
>TW games
>creating from scratch
You've never played a TW game, I see. It's hilarious watching dumbfucks trying to shit on the best game in the series bringing up "anti-consumer DLC practices" when TWWH has the best bang for buck DLC content out of all TW games and the most free official content released for the game as well.

If anything, TWWH DLC is the least Jewy in the entire franchise, since every faction features unique models with unique animations and not just shitty reskins of generic human units.

>>383811778
>>383811346
Gotta make it seem at least somewhat toned down for ratings. At least it looks like she's still mounting Malekith nightly.

>>383812980
Sometimes you have no choice in the matter, you start right next to each other after all. Also after you claim K8P that fuck will send an endless train of stacks in your direction.
Also I had at least one run where Dorfs got Grimgor's capital before I even reached K8P.

>>383813223
Nor did it have as much faction variety and content as this game.......................

>>383812418
you buy it once and get it in all the three games.

>>383813071
It's the same game though? They literally merge into one giant map

>>383813013
>original guy says "buy the same game"
>he lays out what a "stand-alone-expansion" is explicitly
>IF IT EXPANSION, WHY IT SAY 2?
do you exist just to shit things up? Sonic and Knuckles is also a stand-alone expansion. Literally unfinished content from Sonic 3. And true to form, we've been promised an S3+K version at the end.

>>383811346
Topless Morathi DLC, $4.99, please look forward to it

>>383813013
So if the name was simply changed to "Total War: Warhammer - The New World" it wouldn't be a problem?

>>383811210
>A filthy degenerate cyka blyet under putin regime trying to tell others about politics

ayy blyetmao

>>383813223
Fall was the same japan map, and the same faction. The only new assets were the ships and weapons.

>>383813480
So basically you argument is that this turd has always been a turd but this time they sprinkled some powdered sugar on it so we should gobble that shit up! yum yum.

>>383804559
Wow really/? Their leader is a rip-off of Darth Vader? That's the best they could think of? Fucking dropped.

>>383813550
So the analogy was crap. Contrats.

>>383813761
is Warhammer your first Total War or something

>>383813480
But alexander was such a good DLC :^)

>>383805896
HOLA SKEENKS

>>383813829
Darth Vader wishes he was Malekith.

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>>383813761
>I want free shit, but I'll pretend I actually have an argument backed up by some morality related position and not just petty greed because I'm a subhuman from a third-world shithole who doesn't even buy games in the first place: the post
LMAO.

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>>383805280

>wanting a three kingdoms game when there are literally billions of them already

I actually threw up. This is some awful taste you have.

>>383814076
Darth Vader here. Fuck that guy trying to rip me off.

Sent from my Tapatalk aboard my personal Star Destroyer.

>>383814275
dumb mobile poster

>>383813829
Hows he ripping him off? He isnt wearing a mask or anything.

>>383814259
Wanting anything Chink related should be punishable by branding with the brand saying CHINK LOVER and placed on the forehead.

>>383814259
There are no good ones.

also.
Spring and Autumn > Three memedoms

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>all those poorfags in this thread
>all that shitposting by butthurt historyfags
lmaoing at you, gonna buy it FULL PRICE COLLECTOR'S EDITION and fucking enjoy it.
Peace out cucks

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>Spend $250 on steam sale
>Back log is now 27 games long

It'll be hard as fuck but I'm going to use my will power and wait for the christmas sale before buying TW2. I'll play the DLC to hold me over when the game releases and the hype train is on full burn.

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>>383814630

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>>383814421
>He isn't wearing a mask

>>383814630
Video games are some of the worst investments you could make both in time and money, especially if you buy digital over physical.

>>383813829
uh, Malekith had literally all of his body burnt to a crisp before his followers melded the black armor onto him
not comparable at all

>>383814275
Malekith here. I ride dragons and mating press my supermodel Mom nightly. Sorry yours was just an ugly slave.

Sent via the Winds of Metal from the highest peak in Naggaroth with the sacrifice of four peasants.

>>383814827
Daily reminder not to jump into any magical fires.

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>>383814465

Just give them the Queue haircut like the based Manchu did to those filthy chinks.

>>383814831
capitalism is a cancer

>>383814831
i don't need to "invest" in it, i buy it because that's what i fucking want and enjoy.
I need no other reason to buy stuff.
Whatever you are trying to prove to me is irrelevant

>>383814698
Attila is still better than Warhammer though

>>383815083
except it isn't, shitty optimisation makes it fail by itself

>>383804559
sex lewd bdsm night elves maybe some of them are in to kinky stuff or do they just make one of hard but are all soft and cuddly?!

Will we ever find out?!

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>never played these types of strategy games
>fan of WH Fantasy
>looking at people playing it on YT looks fun as fuck
>feel like i will just drop it if i try due to it being complicated

I cant decide.

JUST GET TO THE BLOODY SKAVENS ALREADY

RATTLINGUNZ
WARP CANNONS
GASTHOWERS
JEZZAILZ
DEATHWHEELS
MUTANST AND SLAVES
RATS WITH GUNZ N KNIFES

>>383815185
I have no idea what you just said, but that armoured darth vader guy in the trailer fucks his mum on the regular.

>>383815228
I think you can pirate the first one, give it a go

>>383815185
They kill slaves to use their blood as lube. The crazy ones just stab each other to get lube.

>>383815228
do it bro, you can always play on lower difficulty.
it's a fun game.

>>383815180
That's just a complaint by greedy dumbasses who think their 4 year old laptops should be able to run the game on Ultra settings.

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>>383815083

>Should I have these men with swords fight these other men with swords?

Fuck off, Total Warhammer is the best in the franchise, followed by Shogun 2.

Fuck the haters, I love Warhammer and Total War so this was a dream pairing for me. With mods, the first game did not disappoint so I welcome more.

I still pirate all the DLC though.

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>>383815228
It's not complicated anon.
Only very few things are left unanswered - but most is addressed in the tutorials - nothing is detrimental to your strategy though.

>>383815228
>Total War
>complicated
>strategy

lol no.

>>383815449
go away paradoxdrone

>>383814831
You make it sound like people buy them expecting some sort of return other than a fun time.
If you enjoy it and dont regret it later, then its a damn fine 'waste' of time and money.

>>383815396
>Total Warhammer is the best in the franchise
LMAO, I guess it's best for people who just want an easy game to win. I hear you senpai.

>>383815690
Its still cheaper than drinking at least.

>>383815690
You will regret all of the time wasted later on and there are better non-manchild activities to spend your time on like reading books, helping out your community and the white race.

>>383816003
>implying i can't read a book after i play the game

>>383816003
The worst part about your post is that I have a suspicion you weren't ironic when you wrote that.

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>>383815228

There are a lot of hidden rules to the game, a lot of which you can learn by asking around or just playing with it.

Armored > Unarmored
Armor piercing > regular damage
Swords > Lances
Lances > Large enemies types

Magical/fire damage does extra damage to unarmored but less to armored units

Ethereal units means ghostly so they take a lot less damage from none magical sources that deal damage

Bows shoot over obstacles like trees, walls and other units. Guns or bullets or projectile cannot shoot past obstacles, so you have to use them better and not just point 'n click but they are armor piercing.

Anti Large specific units deal less damage to anything that isn't "large". Anti Infantry means it deals extra damage to mobs of units, but less to single specialty units like a giant ogre, single lords and such.

>>383816376
Share your TW knowledge anon.
How does bonus damage work? If you have a unit of Grave Guards for instance going up against a unit of Greatswords - will the Grave Guards bonus damage against infantry count in regards to the armor piercing bonus or the base damage?
Also why is the Strigoi so underpowered?

>>383806657
>Dawn of war 1 and 2 did the literal same thing with their expansions.
But all the content from the base game was FREE on the stand alone game.

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>>383804559
Ehhh, Malekith is good and all, but....

Please let me play as Morthari as a general and command an army of Death Hags while leading a Cauldron of Blood sacrificing people to Khaine on the battlefield, PLEASE!
>Please let me play as Morthari as a general and command an army of Death Hags while leading a Cauldron of Blood sacrificing people to Khaine on the battlefield, PLEASE!
Please let me play as Morthari as a general and command an army of Death Hags while leading a Cauldron of Blood sacrificing people to Khaine on the battlefield, PLEASE!

>>383817464
Sure, that will be $14.99 for the DLC.

>>383805125
I personally didn't have that much fun with Warhammer besides Dwarfs, Empire and VC.

Chaos and Beastmen campaigns are shit, the latter only saved because of the cool ass units it has. WE units are too gimmicky and the campaign itself is boring, Greenskins are shittier, bigger in numbers dwarfs. Bretonnia's beginning of the campaign is shit since is grinding invasions/rebellions for Chivaldry and the infantry units are absolute garbage...

I mean, is a good game, but incredible disappointing. Hope Warhammer II delivers and fixes the problems the first one had with more interesting units and better campaigns.

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>>383817464
Morathi is a legendary lord and you can see the cauldron in this screenshot.

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>>383817464
And I think this is a death hag, but I could be wrong.

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>>383817779
OH YES

>>383813879
The analogy being crap had nothing to do with what I said. "Contrats" on being illiterate.

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>WH2 is going to have a brand new campaign map with all new factions each with new rosters, quests, etc
>"60 DOLL HAIRS FOR A DLC LMOA"
>meanwhile no one bitches about Attila being a rehash of Rome II or FOTS being a re-hash of the original Shogun 2

>>383817948
Wearing too much cloth though.

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>>383818153
It is 2017 after all. Gotta cover up those video game characters.

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>No manual replenishment
>AI is still retarded after 20 years of franchise
>Campaign part is to simple

M2 had the best design choices. Prove me wrong.
Pro tip: you can't

>the maps are combined into one big map
what happens if I don't have total warhammer 1? do I get to play as the old races in warhammer 2? or do I need both? and if the former is the case then why should I buy 2 if I can just wait for 3

Rome 1 > Shogun 2 > Medieval 2 > Who gives a shit.

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>>383818372
You need both to play the combined campaign.

>>383818372
no, you play in the New World as only the helves/nelves/lizardmen and probably have access to the minor factions existing there (or at least through mods)

>>383805671
>It's jewy and shitty, but that's how it is in this Brave New World.

>justifying this with a straight face on your jewish fucking face

nah bro i don't think so, i can imagine your big brown jew eyes dilating and your heart pace quickening when you hear this

>>383818510
Speaking of minor factions, what has the New World to offer in this matter?

>>383818309
Please tell me those aren't final models for the Kroxigors, they look like fat crocodiles with downs.

>>383808768
>the ones that can do it better than him are very dead.
Kroak gives so little fucks about that fact that he just got back up again when he felt like it

>>383818324
>Wanting manual replenishment
Yeeea your opinion is clearly trash and worth less then a turd

>>383818372
Each has a big map, have both games or all three then you get a massive merged map with everything in it.

>>383818798
there's the Estalian or Tilean colonists/"conquistadors" (don't remember which)
there's some amazons but I doubt they'll put in the time to create their roster
there's probably some remaining ratmen before the plague clan ran away to the Southlands
probably some more memers inbetween delves and lizardmen
there's the chaos tribes of the north, which is why the dark elves erected a dozen large towers to guard this border

>>383818324
Warhammer is the ONLY TW game where the AI is not utterly retarded in diplomacy.
Their battle AI isn't bad either, outside hidden units. I liked M2, but you could literally camp Longbowmen and shoot until you had no arrows left, and the AI would often just sit there.

>>383819042
I think the world map trailer showed some Greenskin and undead settlements scattered here and there

>>383819042
+ Vampire Coast in Lustria

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>>383818821
They probably aren't going to change them just a few months from release.

>>383818798
Vampire coast.
Chaos raiders
Amazons
Mixed armies of treasure/lore seekers
Small rat clans
Greenskins are everywhere
I'm sure there'll be some herds running around as well.

>>383805423
I dont want it with this engine or this city management city desu

>>383819042
Oh shit, I just had this thought.
With CA hyping up rogue armies consisting of units from diffrent factions, what if they do away with minor factions and just throw some rogue states around?
It would save them at least five Charlemagnes

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>>383819394
>some herds running around as well

>>383818883
>being this much of a casual
>wanting to play a dumbed down game with no depth or strategy just luls epic battle my doomstack beat this army half it's size xD

The campaign of tw games lacked content and meaningful ways to influence other factions but man oh man at least the building paths were more in depth than upgrade this [generic barracks card] into [generic barracks II] *unlock 2 previously locked units.
not to mention the fact that you had multiple different agents and needed the requisite buildings to muster them.
now it's one agent=do it all jack of all trades.

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>>383817706
I'm pretty sure, and hoping, Warhammer 2 is going to introduce Naval warfare considering that they're going to provide an option to unite 2 continents into one map, and for the sole fact that the Dark Elves entirely depends on their Blark Ark Corsairs for their economy from piracy to pillaging/sacking towns/cities for loot and slaves.

Christ, I can only dream. Just fucking imagine, especially with the shit you see in Warhammer Fantasy and the kind of absurdities you see factions using as ships, for example Chaos using floating towers to get across seas, Tomb KANGS using flying pyramids, and the Dark Elves especially who have fucking retardedly ridiculous ships called Black Arks which are the equivalent of floating fortresses which house slaves by the thousands just to bring back to Naggoroth. Just imagine the fucking ridiculousness of naval combat if added all of this. It would be like Star Wars with small fighter pilots taking down dreadnoughts, with mini armies boarding land base fortress ships.

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>>383819572
You'll probably have a mission as lizards, my bet is Mazda Miati, to clear the very last of the beastie boys out of lustria.

>>383819742
It's not, all naval combat is auto-resolve because Games Workshop was R E T A R D E D with their licensing

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>>383818309
Christ I'm just so fucking hyped for TWW2. Just look at those beauties.

>>383819869
Also because there has never been a time when total war naval combat was good or more people expressed liking it than disliking it.

>>383819776

>Turtle Isles

What is there here? Turtles?

>>383819042
As much as I'd like them, Amazons really won't work as their own faction in this kind of game. They'll be mercenaries at best.

>>383820661
>Amazons really won't work as their own faction in this kind of game. They'll be mercenaries at best.
The same argument can be made about ogres, yet they have been confirmed as an independent faction ages ago.

>>383819776
>none near Athel Loren
???

>>383806790
Most expansions give maybe a campaign, a unit for each faction and 20% more factions

>>383820748
ogres have an expansive army book
amazons have... ?

>>383820574
Teclis starting point

>>383820293
that probably wasn't the deciding factor desu

>>383820748
They have a literal kingdom spanning hundreds of miles of mountain range though

I'd put Amazons in the Chaos Dwarf tier of unlikely

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>>383820795
An fanmade armybook.

>>383820123
>literally just a crocodile

>>383820965
Chaos Dwarfs are also confirmed

>>383820574
Presumably dragon turtles.
>>383820784
Elves keep the Athel Loren and other nearby forests clear. None of the beastmen start positions or spawn positions (until Oak of Ages is upgraded) are actually in Bretonnia. They all go there, other than Khazrak, because they fucking hate how perfect elves are.
>>383820965
According to that russian leak C.Dorfs are coming before ogres are.

>>383820784
The waystones ward them off.

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Redpill me on how to play the beastmen.

>>383821351
Never
stop
raiding
Clean your plate as much as possible. The last thing you want is to be chased all around the old world by half a dozen stacks of dudes you raided for one turn. As Khazrak, keep your stacks together as much as possible.

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>>383812396
Why do you pirate it if it's trash? Why even play?

>>383821351
the 2nd army they give you makes things confusing in terms of management
most people leave him alone and behind to slowly level up or whatever, and build up whenever you actually can afford a 2nd army

>>383821351
always fight always raid

can't stop won't stop

>>383821351
poo and pee everywhere
full mino stack

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>>383820293
Dude, with Warhammer Total War they had a chance to not only just revitalize naval combat, but they had the chance to do that AND more with so much fucking potential and shit involved to experiment. Just magic alone, Mages duking it out on ships creating whirlpools, calling meteor strikes, shooting flames when close, changing the air directions, small boost of winds to speed ships, creating mega waves, and lets not forgot the random events (fighting it out in the middle of sea and a mega crab comes out of nowhere and destroys fleets, using that to your advantage or being shit out of luck). Warhammer Fantasy has sea-monsters/ocean-megabeasts galore.

It's not like they're going to be left out on the cold too, because Warhammer Fantasy had a tabletop wargame Man O' War to look for ideas and references, pleasing not just the Army nerds, but the Naval dorks who liked Man O' War.

>>383806078
Fuck off frogposter

>>383821690
wrong game fag

>>383821939
http://store.steampowered.com/app/344240/Man_O_War_Corsair__Warhammer_Naval_Battles/

>>383822029
?

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>>383821618
>destroy Esatalia and Cascoenenenene
>raid Parravon for a bit in preparation to attack the hitler elves
>Leon sends his entire army at me and chases me into the fucking badlands despite Mousilion Vampires controlling central Bretonnia because of Empire shenanigans

>>383820293
Rome 2's naval combat was fun.
Ramming into a niggas ship sides and it just so happens it was the hit that it needed to crack in half feels so good.

>>383804559
Malekith's voice is fucking perfect.

>>383821939
Man O war is exactly why they can't, someone else owns the license

>>383820913
I beg to differ. When you're looking at implementing something so large in scale, the first thing you look at his how many people will actually play it. And if you look at achievements nobody plays naval battles.

They used the same reasoning for not adding Avatar Conquest in subsequent Total War games. Only ~5% of players even try multiplayer. Adding it didn't change those numbers, so they dropped.

>>383822349
sounds like sovereign.

>>383822112
You don't know pain until grimgor, Lupio Sunscryer, the Fay Enchantress, and Gelt are chasing you into the center of the badlands. The only safety is in goddamn Skavenblight.

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>>383815406
>Pirate DLC

That's an option for legit copies?

>>383822667
yes

>>383814969
the left one is the best looking. And romance of the three kingdoms Total War would be awesome.

>>383819776
Wait was Ulthuan always that close to Nignogroth?

>>383814831
Physical games provide no value. The cost in space alone makes them a negative investment.

And as far as investments in time go, a decent videogame will give you a lot of time for you money.

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>>383806790
>$59.99

>Implying I haven't pre-ordered the Serpent God Edition with Priority Shipping for $179.99

>>383823018
Yes but given the small changes that already exist in spacing of shit in 1 I expect it to move slightly more right so you can springboard off of Albion straight into it and not have D.Elves go immediately raid the gates.

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>>383823018

The distance changes depending on the map but generally they are pretty fucking close.

>>383822712
You telling me we can beat the jews?

>>383823572
you can also pirate the base game now too

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>>383820793
>Most expansions give maybe a campaign, a unit for each faction and 20% more factions

Kingdoms
4 different settings
wildly different locations/time periods/cultures
10+ factions
various changes to gameplay
Has a warhammer mod so fantasycucks can play it too.

Now THIS is an expansion.

I think one of the most hillarious campaigns I had was with the HItleritis Elves of the Wood, no attrition trait armies hunting own t he Norscan. CLosing in that Slaneesh prince in the mountains and having two treant lords bash the shit out of him while the rest of my armies hunt the Warhordes of Chaos and all the human allies ride down the never ending spawning beastmen in the Brett land as you reach second highest level on the tree. THEN in the final fight bring 7 dragons and mix armyr behind it and just spook the fucking Beastfuckers to hell, You are the chaos? Im nature, bitch. Die.

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> You seem more villainous than usual, Morathi; are you sober?
> Malus, it's eight a.m.
> So, it's not that.
> I don't know. Maybe it's because I went off my post-partum medication.
> You were still taking that? You had Malekith thirty-two centuries ago.
> And that's how long I've been depressed about him.

>>383823648
This is excellent news.
But from where? is there even any piratesites left?

>>383823740
Come on bruh those factions combined had less troops than your average warhammer faction not to mention they all play the same

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>>383821939
>how can you have warhammer without boats

>>383804559
Could someone explain to me what the difference is between the Dark Elves and the High Elves when it comes to their armies and ways of fighting?

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>>383824759
>High Elves
Standard elf
>Dark elves
>Unlike most elves, these elves usually get approval of /tg/ for a variety of reasons. This includes taking their arrogance to its peak and seeing non-elves as slaves/vermin, using technology, scantily clad women (for the fa/tg/uys), not being nature-lovers but being able to tame awesome monsters (including the aforementioned dinosaur mounts) and using ranged weapons other than bows.

>>383824759
High Elves are fast glass cannons and Dark Elves are faster glassier cannons

>>383825117
>Standard elf
Pro elves say otherwise

>>383825117
Yeah but how are their fighting and army style? How does the Dark Elves fight? Are they quick or mostly stationary, are they defensive or do they dish out alot of damage? The High Elves seem like the stationary types.

>>383824759
>High Elves
Will fight you straight and fair, albeit with tons of magic to throw at you
>Dark Elves
They're going to hit you really fast and really hard. If they hit you hard enough, they'll stick around to take you prisoner, which means you're screwed in quite a few different ways.

>>383825487
Quick, lots of damage. They want to be home in time for the daemonic blood orgy

>>383818118
Supposedly it's going to be fully integrated with the first game too, so you can play an actual fuckhuge GC. Seems like a good buy, to me.

I really hope they give Grombrindal a campaign to remove Dark Elf.
The fact that GW ignored him in the end times is criminal.
>ywn cause a grudge so grievous that it causes a Dwarf to come back to life with the power of hatred in order to hunt you down

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>tfw you just want an official Border Princes playable faction so you can spread you benevolent Strigoi empire across the land

>>383821351
You can hold down right mouse button before moving to see how much movement points you'll have left. So just always leave 25% of movement every turn and use hidden camp. Your main source of money is sacking minor towns that aren't protected, when you see the enemy army just run away to greener pastures. Always raiding is a meme and I presume those people don't play on legendary. If you stay visible you'll just be a big flashing target for every enemy on the map.
Also minotaurs are good, bestigors are shit and you must have 2 gorebulls in every stack.

>>383827214
>implying death with stop a proper dwarf from avenging a grudge
do you even dorf?

Alright Anons, anybody got the Faction Roll chart? I'm ready to start a new GC, and I can't decide who to go with.

>>383827402
That's Grombrindal's backstory, anon.
He was once Malekith's best friend, and had him swear an oath on his deathbed that he'd make sure Dwarfs and Elves would remain allies forever.
We all know how that one ended up, and the sheer scale of oathbreaking made him come back.

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>>383827615

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>>383827968
Doing a Grimgor run now, but let's see who's next.
Pls no Chaos. I don't want to be bored to death.

>>383827667
>We all know how that one ended up
I don't.

>>383827968
Ty bb. Gimme dem ELECTOR COUNTS.

>>383828136
Fuck, literally the only one I didn't want. Taking a reroll.

>>383828063
Malekith did not keep his oath

>>383828063
Malekith is the one who engineered the war between Elves and Dwarfs that devastated them both.
He's on par with the Slann for ultimately buttfucking the world, but at least the Slann did something useful in the process.

>>383827968
>tfw no regiments of renown for the other factions

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>>383828263
>rerolling
You'd better believe that's a grudgin'.

>>383827968
WHY IS THERE NO CAMPAIGN TO RESTORE GLORIOUS STRIGOS TO ITS FORMER GLORY
FUCK YOU CA - NO LOVE FOR STRIGOIS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>383828263
FOR CHAOS
>>383828383
I always bump difficulty up on rerolls. Pretty sure I'll get what's coming to me.

I just want Kangz already.

Southlands >Lustria

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>>383828404
I heard it's coming
With Chaos Dwarfs

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WHEN?
I want Morathi to get BLACKed.

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OLD FRIEND FUCKING WHEN?!?!

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>>383828621
Come here you little shit

Which factions have the best waifus?

>>383827968
Sigmar No!

Can we take a moment to reflect on how utterly retarded Chaos Dwarfs are?
>Want to create a slave soldier
>take the most psychotic and violent race in the setting
>make it bigger, smarter and more vicious
>I see no way this could possibly go wrong

>>383828996
WElves.
Wardancers and Glade Ladies > Corpses and French People.

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>>383829007
>Gelt
poor bastard

Reminder: Pirate all Total Warhmmer games. Their jew practices should not be accepted under any circumstances.

>>383827968
Fuck it, here comes my first playthrough.

>>383829058
They're manlets after all.
Manlets got less brain capacity

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>>383829234
Skarsnik is THE top 2 playthroughs but rough for a first timer.

also remember to kill off the Empire at the start for funsies

>>383829234
Remember to get Gobbo buffs.
It's currently bugged so both goblin and night goblin Lord upgrades stack with ALL goblin units.
With both fully upgraded, the average goblin has a higher attack rating and charge bonus than Chaos Chosen.

Use the Empire factions as your personal bank to start off with.

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>>383816003
you seem confused, this is /v/

>>383817389
It goes to melee attack.

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>>383821129
>>They all go there, other than Khazrak, because they fucking hate how perfect elves are.
>play a long and annoying first game as beasts trying to kill wood elves but get rekt and basically lose
>start again and this time plan shit out and things go a lot better
>beasts are actually more interesting than I thought, decide to look up some lore
>learn they grow and spread via enslaving and rape and they can have marks to follow specific chaos gods so minotaurs can become fucking Slaantaurs and shit
>get inspired to write a story loosely based on both campaigns combined with my favourite chaos god of surprise sex
>plot is reaching the oak and feeding it a giant piece of amber with the remains of a powerful keeper of secrets sealed inside so it corrupts it and thus the wood elves and their fey spirit kin tying their beings to it
>Every type of horrible and depraved things happen to them as the tree is fed more and more demonic energy from lewd acts in a feedback loop and makes them to weak to fight back while the beasts get stronger
>Eventually the queen herself falls and the whole forest becomes a giant breeding ground and since they're immortal they become breeding sows suffering for all eternity
>22,397 word and counting
Truly the Warhammer Fantasy: The Beastmen™ was inside us all along

>>383829743
Why is it listed under damage then?

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SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE
SETTRA RULES

>>383827968
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION

>>383827968
Sure why not

>>383817389
Strigoi has significantly less armour than normal vampires, meaning that it can be easily taken out by other lords, is less useful in a general melee, and is incredibly vulnerable to cavalry.
They're great at flank attacks, but the AI tends to home in on lords, and a human player is never going to let you flank unless they're an idiot.

>>383825487
Most of the time they just raid for slaves and fun then run away like little bitches, so they're built around fucking shit up and getting out as quickly as possible

They usually only deploy real armies to invade Ulthuan (high elf land) and they fight a lot more traditionally and in a generally similiar fashion but they have all kinds of horrible tamed monsters and ride giant spiky chariots and shit to inflict as much pain as possible and naturally use more evil magic vs their less evil cousins (although high elves use all magic and their own special school too).

>>383829816
You can't write all that and not give a link, anon.
Be like the guy who linked his fapfic to the Vermintide devs

>>383827968
Leavin muh mods on.

>>383830151
So why would you ever pick a Strigoi? Is CA just incompetent at balancing?

>>383819163
I dont think anyone is saying the AI was ever Medieval II's strong point. I think the design decisions were. I absolute loathe the way they changed how cities are managed, and I hate how the battles flow now. Units drop like flies, they move fast, start close to one another and artillery doesnt really have that much range. Ive seen so many fights where the entire army is just a short jog away from the other battle line even when they try to set up in a way that gives ranged units an advantage.

I liked some of the battle maps in Warhammer TW though. Shame the city sieges got so neutered.

>>383827968
Why do the vamps get more options than everybody else?

>>383827968
Hit a brother with a fun one!

>>383830502
the von Carsteins are a big goy

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>>383804559
>malekiths mom just walks around naked

>>383830632
She's modestly dressed for Dark Elven standards.

>>383830502
because they gave them the necromancers that aren't associated with the Court but also aren't associated with the Tomb Kings

>>383830383
In theory, it's supposed to be a heavy damage dealer to mass blocks of infantry, or be able to skirt round the melee to chase down missile units.
It can fulfill that role, but you either have to be a master strategist for it to work, or your opponent has to be an idiot.

>>383830525
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

>>383830632
Yours doesn't?

>>383827968
Roll'n. Just finished a Gelt campaign and have started itching for a new one.

are Varghulfs supposed to look scary? they are honestly cute as fuck

>>383830632
>tfw your moms not a dark elf you can fuck whenever you want
Life is suffering

>>383827968
Nope

>>383830748
I'm excited. What are some solid WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH tips?

>>383805671
I mean you can see right in this trailer the recycled units from the wood elves.

2
fucking
factions
of
recycled
units

60€

>>383814969
M8 half shaven head+braid looks fantastic

>>383830936
Black Orc are too much fun. Protect your catapult at all costs it's so fucking good. Can even snipe armies far away by using manual aim.
ALWAYS be fighting so you can get constant WAAAAGHS and also level up Grimgors combat stats so he can solo entire armies

>>383831074
Oh, so you're just pretending.
Good, for a second there i thought someone this retarded could actually exist

>>383830807

HAHAHA

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>>383829816
You motherfucker better delete all that shit right the fuck now.

>>383830936
Start with Grimgor, because Azhag has shit starting units
Take out the Dwarfs as soon as possible, or they get gigantic doomstacks.
Doom divers are godly
Basic units are shit
Nasty Skulkers are Dwarf Kryptonite
Level up Combat for Grimgor and use him as your personal Lord Asassin, since he can 1v1 any non mounted lord in the game
Level up Army buffs for Night Goblin boss Lords


When the first chaos invasion hits, camp an army at the bottom left of the badlands. If you don't exterminate the Bjornlings immediately, they'll be a colossal pain in the ass.

>>383804559
>2017
>those graphics
holy christ, you're retarded if you don't believe consoles ruined gaming

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>>383831487
>consoletard can't even comprehend thousands of game agents littered in a battlefield

>>383830807
wew

>>383831709
>"consoles ruined gaming"
>wow, you're a consoletard
how autistic and/or retarded are you

>>383821351
Unlike Chaos, money is actually gonna be tight because you aren't fucking around in the northern wastes with an ungodly gold/favor modifier.
Get the free gorebull when it asks you what you want, its a pretty good commander killer at the start and its stat upgrades are high compared most heros.
You will have to combine both armies into 1 and have the second commander follow. Sack settlements that are going to be an easy battle, walled settlements at the start should only really be attacked if they don't have a army.
Raiding stance is a fucking trap because if you aren't hiding chances are that anyone who is at war with you is gonna be sending their entire army to hunt you down half way across old world while no one gets pissed at them for trespassing.
Like greenskins, always maintain 17-20 troops in your main stack and get high animosity to get a free stack to help you do shit but be afraid to let them die because they still are a fucking magnet for the AI to hunt you down.
Also your normal movement stance can ambush enemy's out in the field where only you get reinforcements for the battle, and since your standard infantry are fast no armor shits being able to take out their archers in the first ten seconds of a battle in an ambush really devaules their army compositions. This can be abused by retreating if the ambush didn't activate since you can retreat without fighting and try again. You can also lure Lords out of settlements by having your weak army stand at near the edge of inside the movement range with your bigger army slightly closer while invisible. This doesn't count as an ambush. but they tend to send the weaker stack first and accept to fight your main army even though you have the advantage during the fight
Mid game a particular horde upgrade makes upkeep drop down to easily maintainable levels so you can actually easily field another army without going broke.

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>>383827968
r o l l i n g u

>>383830807
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0gQSyNuO6CJ

Can some grognard tell me about the chaos dwarves? I liked their pseudo-mesopotamian style from the little i saw

>>383821351
>>383831918
Minotaurs are also pretty gr8 and get another gorebull when you can. if you start as Morghor, you'll probably get 0 UPKEEP CHAOS SPAWN instead.

Most important tip though is if you didn't know this from other total war games, click and drag same units onto eachother to merge so you can rapidly heal them. As beast men you are bleeding money anyways if you try to heal normally and this works with the +Growth no replenishment events, which you want to get since late upgrades are important to keeping troop costs down.

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>>383832205
Dwarves who delved too deep and found a Greater Daemon to corrupt them and become their new god.
They produce chaos-powered machinery and often sell them to the highest buyers (they aren't exactly allies with the Norsemen or other Chaos).
Most of their labor force is composed of slaves.
Most of their army is composed of slaves.
Their sacrifices to Hashut are mostly composed of slaves.
They see the Dark Lands as their dominion.

>>383832205
>be dorf
>move to uninhabitable wasteland full of chaos daemons
>fight them off, forgotten by dorfkin in other holds and even the gods themselves
>hashut takes favor to them
>they learn magic and flirt with chaos
>enslave greenskin shits
>wear cool hats
>???

>>383827968
lets doo it

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>>383832508
>Just Greenskins.

Even Ogres get enslaved by the Chaos Dwarves. Fuck mercenary work and paying them.

>>383805671
>different f a c t i o n s
as if that fucking means anything, it's going to be a shit game

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shame you have to wait until 3rd game for best dwarves

>>383833327
>different factions

unlike Shogun 2 each of the factions actually are unique and play differently, so it does mean something you profligate

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>>383834031

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can i run this with 4gb ram

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What are some must have mods?

>>383834504
Time to leave the 19th century anon

Have they revealed any new information about the combined campaign map? Are they gonna butcher it?

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>>383834630
pls respond

>>383834612
Forced march taking a turn to activate

>bunch of races nobody cares about
Any reason to buy this game?

>>383834729
Does that affect the AI too?

>>383834787
>not wanting to embody the glorious incompetence of Thanquol

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>>383834612
regiments of renown, lorehammer, and whatever grafics mods

>>383834858
Yes. It makes them almost never use it, and actually makes it possible to catch the fuckers once in a while.