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Would Fallout NV been better with a Legion companion? The way

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Would Fallout NV been better with a Legion companion? The way the game is set up, it's almost impossible to not see Legion as villains, even if the game isn't meant to have a true good or true evil. Still though, no companion option for them is funny.
Also, who's your favorite buddy? It's hard not to say Boone, but I gotta put my money on Gannon.
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>>383802598
you say that but you can take Nipton a number of ways, one being "they sold each other out? fucking degenerates, you guys are ok".
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It would be like having Roy from L.A. Noire
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>>383802598
There's a Vulpes companion mod that's pretty good, he uses all vanilla dialouge.
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>>383803285
A snarky wiseguy who works with you but deep down is actually corrupt? Not bad. What if you actually were siding with the legion? Or is he crossing them too?
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>>383802598
every companion would be good if they didn't get lost every fucking time I sent them back home. BROKEN MESS OF A GAME
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>>383803285
except roy was the best part about the game

so yes, a legion companion would be great
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I just started playing DUST.
After a few moments in it, I have reached the perfectly reasonable conclusion that I must kill everyone I meet.
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>>383803594
>not sending them to Lucky 38
There's your problem.
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>>383803678
>I just started playing DUST
RIP in peice brave anon.
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Can we all agree that Veronica is the most boring? She has elements I like about her; the desire to feel more feminine, the willingness to venture out and seek a better way for her people. Something about her though, I just am not crazy about.
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It would have helped to see the Legion occupied areas where you could see the Legion's brutality leading to stable, safe communities as described by Sawyer.
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>>383804872
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If Obsidian had been able to finish the game and flesh out the Legion more, Ulysses would have been a companion you find on the way to Novac. As it is, the Legion still has some representation in the form of Raul, who states that Legion territory is very peaceful (albeit out of tyranny).
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>>383804945
Is this a map of the ant mound? It must be, because it's made for fucking ants.
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>>383805121
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>>383802598
There wouldnt have to be a flat out legion companion, just one who strongly supports them and leaves you if your legion rep is low enough. Theres too little reason to go legion both story and gameplay wise (lucky shades and a supply dump, nothing else unique). Having at least 1 legion town would probably been better though.
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>>383805378
the supply dump was fucking crazy though
like a shit ton of caps every 3 days
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>>383804750
Yeah, she's weirdly downplayed whenever she talks. Maybe it's just because her sarcastic tone isn't sarcastic enough and it just sounds like a regular speaking voice.

Either way, Cassidy is best alcoholic cow-girl.
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>>383802598

its hard to get immersed when new vegas is a small street section split up with loading screens

gamebryo pls
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>can't go 5 steps without being called profligate or degenerate
>NPCs will probably give even more shitfor me having a legion companion
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>>383802598

Can you guys explain to me how to play this game? Doing things to advance the story seems too hard, grinding is harder than it's worth it, and if I just roam around, I find some scorpions that just wreck my shit.
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>>383805647
They were missing a lot. In what world does the NCR get an embassy and the Legion don't when Las Vegas has a literal Caesar's palace?

No Venetian run by neo-borgias?
or Treasure island run by swashbucklers?
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>>383805780
What's your build? Advancing the story should be easy without grinding.

Make sure you're not playing on hardcore, its terrible for a 1st timer
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>>383805849
Do you really think the Legion does diplomacy besides burnings and crucifixions?
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>>383805780
Follow the main road for the first part of the game, doing all the side quests you can along the way (Nipton's Sherrif, Boone's quest, etc). Continue until you get to the Vegas strip gate. Then do the King's missions. You can now branch out and do all of Freeside, random NCR fort missions, and just wander. Make sure you're centralizing on 1 type of weapon to use, preferably guns or energy weapons.
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>>383805951

Don't know, man. Just increased my damage or health. I think I increased my socials skills on my second try though.
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>>383805951
>Doing things to advance the story seems too hard
Pretty sure he's baiting
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>>383806019

I'm not. Maybe I don't know what the story is, since I stormed a prison and found the WOOOOOOOO I WON THE LOTTERY guy.
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>>383805849
NCR get an embassy because house is playing them via sloots and casinos.

legion don't because house plan is keep them the fuck away from vegas.
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>>383805003
>Ulysses would have been a companion
No thanks.
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Most of the Mojave hates the legion
So hes just gonna end up aggroing everyone
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>>383802598
I think more Legion content in general would be better.
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>>383806398
Ideally he should be a non Legion Legion supporter. He should leave the PC for screwing with the Legion/siding with the NCR and sing the Legions praises, but he shouldn't aggro anyone (think reverse Arcade)
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So who's courier united the tribes of the Mojave, killed house, drove out the NCR and Legion and is now sitting as the Queen of the Mojave?
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>>383806815
>implying khans deserve to be united
>he doesnt send them to suicide attack the dam
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>>383806264
Alright then, here's the chain of events. After you create your character the Doctor tells you to see some chick at the bar who can give you directions. You can't miss her because you start talking to her instantly after entering. She gives you the tutorial option so you can learn how to shoot, kill a few enemies and craft a couple of healing items. She then tells you to see the bartender, who you find arguing with an escaped prisoner. You can talk to her and find out prison man is after Joe Cobb, who is in the gas station. You then have the choice of helping prison man wipe out the town or fighting back with or without the towns help (You need barter and speech for this)

Now this all optional and gets you a couple levels and some decent items, but you already know what your goal is from Sunny: Track down the guy who shot you by going the long way to New Vegas. (South to Nipton, east/north east to Novac, then North to Vegas/Freeside). In each town along the way there is at least one quest to get you those levels and items. Have fun.
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>>383802598
yes

I don't even like the legion, but companion allegiances ought to have been more balanced, maybe including Victor as a specifically House-aligned companion
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Boone is considered ex NCR who left honorably and hates the legion, right? Why not a perfect mirror of that for Legion who hates NCR and has a unique backstory?
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>>383807384
I loved Victor. It's a shame he had to go when I chose Yes Man.
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>>383807714
Vulpes should have been a companion that joins after you pledge yourself to Caesar, the dude left quite an impression when you first meet him, not to mention his proficiency as a spy means he could wear a disguise while in NCR territory as opposed to shooting on sight and blowing your cover like Boone
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>>383807714
Because that would be a cheap knockoff.
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>>383802598
Let's settle on the definitive list

Cass>Rex>Christine>ED-E>Follows Chalk>Raul>Dean>Roxie>Veronica>Dog>Lilly>God>Arcade>Waking Cloud>Boone
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>>383807714
Turn Joshua Graham back to the legion and fight alongside the white legs, he follows you back to the mojave as a companion.
>>383807936
This >>383803571, it exists as a mod and he rides along in the suit from the strip.
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>>383807936
Brain blast!
His companion perk is you are never attacked or treated as shunned by any society that you have a negative reputation towards as long as you don't initiate violence, sort of a "perfect disguise".
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>>383807987

EDE > Rex

Raul > Arcade > Cass > Boone > Lily > Veronica

Shit > Follows Chalk > Waking Cloud

Dean > Christine > Dog > God
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>>383807936
Arguably the most overrated New Vegas character in my opinion. Lanius was a bestu and I wish we got more with him.
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>>383807987
Close but no cigar.

Cass>Rex>Christine>ED-E>Raul>God>Roxie>Veronica>Follows Chalk>Dog>Boone>Lilly>Dean>Arcade>Waking Cloud
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>>383807198

I did all that, then I rescued the pussy sheriff, found that hologram in the desert, stormed a prison, then I couldn't advance through the legion part and that part where you help the NCR on a town. The legion part was too hard for me, and I think I couldn't find the NCR npc to progress the quest. The harder part was finding ammo.
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>>383807987
I'd have to disagree but I haven't played all the DLC companions yet
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>>383802598
They didn't had the time to flesh out Legion.
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cass+ed-e master race
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>tfw getting fucked by the blind deathclaws
>tfw luring them to camp golf one by one and getting them picked off for me
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I'm here to kick ass and fuck my wife
and I'm all out of my wife
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>>383808628
ALL MINE

EAT THIS

FRAG OUT
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>>383808731
Shush! We're hunting shit-heads...
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I honestly thought Arcade was gay for the longest time.
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>>383808901
anon, I...
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*exited beeping*
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>>383808957
*cowboy music*
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>>383808731
Thumbs down, you son of a bitch
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>seeing ed-e blow up in LR
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>>383808901
He's not?
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>>383808097
>Turn Joshua Graham back to the legion

What the fuck? This would be so out-of-character for like everyone involved.
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>Trying to kill Ghosts in DUST
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NV would be better if it wasn't such a hideous fucking game
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>>383809665
>tfw we're never going to get another top down fallout
>tfw it's always going have some shitty engine bethesda has some unknown love of.
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>>383804750
>>383805630
It's because she's voiced by Felcia Day, which means Veronica is just Felcia in a videogame.

Also
>Cassidy
>Best
You must be a cuck to think she's best in any way.
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>see oliver swanick in the distance
>he is fidgeting around puting his hand in the air
>really dont want to deal with his shit
>get too close
>he starts to run at me
>do a 180 and run to some vipers
>oliver flees and starts to chase after i kill them all
>i run around building and get into nipton and the fucker is still chasing me
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>>383809826
Alright, who's your best alcoholic Cow-girl?
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>>383809665

Just needs Fellout.
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>>383809665
This.
New Vegas was a botched attempt at a great game while 3 was a decent pass of a bad one.
>>383809824
And turn based.
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>>383809665
>>383810084
samefag
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>>383810376
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Yesterday I did Dead Money on my current playthrough and finally was able to get the good ending for all companions, even Dean. For once the fucker didn't try to kill me.
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>>383802598
A Legion companion wouldn't have mattered. Nu Vegas was, is, and always will be a MESS
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>>383810570
>>383810084
samefag
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>>383810676
Every time I read this it makes me seethe. I should really stop opening it when I know what it is but my autism won't let me escape it.
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>>383810729
Fuck mate you got me.
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>>383809164
>Accidentally killing ED-E permanently in non-hardcore mode
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>>383810887
What bugs me is that he complains about the game not rewarding exploration, then bitches that he never found out what the C-Finder is for. That's one of the cases where if you actually explore and read logs you'd discover that HELIOS is a superweapon and it should lead you to the C-Finder.

Guy doesn't know what the fuck he wants.
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>>383809985
Beatrix Russell
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>>383803102
yea but the smart way is to figure out vulpes is a shittalking liar and the nipton people fought back and were massacred . there are dead legionaries in the town hall and other buildings
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>>383809985
Sunny Smiles or Ghost
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>get letter from ambassador saying he will pardon my crimes if i help him
>just as i get to embassy a pack of NCR thugs want to fuck my shit up
>had to kill them all
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just this year i realized the 2000 caps wasnt a payment

every time i played i would just shoot my way into the strip
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>>383810676
>Doesn't understand the meaning of the sunset sarsaparilla quest and that the whole point was that the "marvelous treasure" was in fact not worth it.
>Crippled man on life support begs for his life and is surprised when you lose karma for killing him
>Says they like fallout 1 but thinks new vegas is too wordy
>complains about the game having an arrow to point where you need to go but also complains when the game doesn't tell you where to go.
Jesus Christ this always gives me an aneurysm
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>>383811518

I just realized her "bra" is discolored flesh from the clothing she wore when she got nuked. Jesus.
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>>383813047
I can't believe I never noticed that, kinda wish I hadn't now
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>tfw want the bonuses from OWB but don't want to slog through it again
What's the quickest way to finish it? I've already done it before on 2 previous playthroughs so I know the entire story.
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>>383813047
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>>383813047
I could have lived just fine without knowing this
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>>383813495
>Start DLC
>choose all quick dialogue options in opening conversation, eg "Enough talking, what do you want me to do?"
>get antenna, pulse gun upgrade and sneaky suit in that order
>have high science so you can hack mega scorp
>kill best doc
>promise brain to go to therapy
>kill other docs
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>>383814243
sweet thank you
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>>383814243
>wanting your whiny bitch of a brain back
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>>383814485
You need it to leave and bullshitting about therapy is faster than the I guess we don't need each other route

>>383814472
No problem
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>>383806391
What, you didn't like THE BEAR AND THE BULL?
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>>383808628
Fucking kek
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>>383803659

Did you say Herschel? I thought you said Herschel.
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>finally got to finish Raul's quest because Ranger Andy didn't bug for once
Fucking finally

Apparently the key is to just never ever interact with Andy until Raul is with you. if you talk to him even once before then, you're potentially fucked.
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>>383815173
is this not fixed by mods?
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>>383815298
NVEC fixes it I believe, but you need to manually make BASH patches since it conflicts with virtually everything under the sun due to how much it fixes.
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>>383815298
You can use console commands to get around it apparently
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>>383814986
I don't like pretty much anything about him enough to want as a follower. Especially not his appearance or voice.
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>>383810676
This is utter shit. You can tell the guy had to justify his shit opinions with the obvious "I played the older games so I know what Fallout is" shtick.
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It's a shame there isn't more to do as a high-medicine character. There's that one NCR surgery quest, a few times you can patch people up, and that's about it. I like being a wasteland doc.
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>>383815567
Yeah, I wish they did more with cooking skills and medicine making skills
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>>383809959
lmao
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>>383809959
The webm is exactly what happened to me on my first playthrough on 360. I was pretty confused
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>>383810676
"Villify you for killing that powder ganger"
No they dont,they just think you fucked up because now that their pal is dead the others WILL attack goodsprings
How can that guy be so fucking retarded?
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>tfw can lock the game at 60 FPS but its still juttery
>install NVSR
>still juttery
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>>383815567
>>383815689
Could be worse. There could be no skills and you have to play the game the same way regardless of how many playthroughs you've done.
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>>383815689
Wasteland Tequila all day everyday
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>tfw only play NV during summer
>tfw sipping on some alcohol while playing
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>>383815959
Specs? I'm running the game on max + texture packs, and the only frame drops I get are in Red Rock which is frankly horribly to be in even on low settings and The Strip.
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>>383816318
R7 1700/GTX 1070
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desu I wish you would have been able to explore the other side of the river more and have it be a brimstone wasteland
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in the shadow of the valley
I would like to settle down
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if every NPC was a deathclaw except the doc mitchell how far could you get?
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>>383816895
2 steps out the door of Mitchell's house
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>>383810676
This is such an awful image
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>>383814986
Someone should make a webm of him speaking THE BEAR AND THE BULL in a loop.
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>>383802598
That was the original plan, but the devs didn't have enough time to implement it. They were also going to add Legion settlements across the river to show what Legion society was like but couldn't because 13 month development cycle
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>>383810676

>someone mentions a bomber
>goes to where they said the bomber was, and finds it
>BUT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO IT

Is this that "gamer entitlement" I keep hearing so much about?
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>>383807987
veronica > *
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>>383802598
The legion was originally written as a slave army unified in purpose, an army which saw everyone in it as a tool to be used for conquest. They weren't the government of legion controlled lands, they were just the army. They didn't treat men as superior and women as objects, they treated men as combat objects and women as breeding objects. Somehow that got badly conveyed, and in the end, the legion we see were written as angry edgelords who alternate every sentence between threatening to crucify you and demeaning women as sex slaves.
It's possible for the legion as originally concieved to be an interesting faction, but the legion we got was cheap cartoon shit.
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Raul is a pretty decent companion for a Legion run.
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>>383815173
I JUST did his part of the quest today, all you gotta do is talk then walk outside.
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>>383802598
Yes. Someone who represents the ruling class/caste of the Legion - a slave trader, a weaponsmith, something that's materially useful and valuable to the Legion, would allow the character to have a real sense of allegiance to the Legion.
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>>383809824
yeah but wasteland
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>>383821919
I've always thought the guy at The Fort with the mohawk who's training those kids would have worked as a legion companion.
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>>383813047
n..nice to know anon...thx
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>>383810676
>sucks off 1 and 3's story begnining because you were raised in the vault, while oversimplifying and even getting wrong the plot of NV
I honestly am finding it hard to continue.
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>>383811448
By now you should know that this kind of fag always expects the quest reward being given to them immediately, or by being guided with a quest marker. Throw in a little effort/research to find out the reward and the kids go buttmad.
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>>383808901
You wanna know another interesting thing about Arcade? He's a Jew
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>>383823621
>Arcade (((Israel)))
Pure coincidence!
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>>383809190
Thought his backstory had him with a woman?
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>>383823724
>the Jew ish character has Enclave roots
SHUT IT DOWN
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>>383802598
The game would be 10 times better if bethesda cunt fucktards didn't fuck them over by giving them only 12 months to develop the game.

The legion was meant to be far more larger and would had more justifications for you to join them.
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Followers> House> NCR> Yes Man> Kings> Boomers> the other Great Tribes> Brotherhood> Kahns> White Gloves> Legion> Raiders
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>>383823724
https://jesawyer.tumblr.com/post/154576358641/im-wondering-is-arcade-gannon-is-meant-to-be
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>>383824125
I think you're giving the boomers a little too much credit, otherwise not bad
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>>383824125
>post apoc hippies in first position
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>>383824461
I like them solely because they're one of the only places in the entire Mojave where you can get any semblance of medical care
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>>383824461
can you call them hippies when they actually do shit? They plant crops and doctor the people
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>>383825359
only because the NCR protects them
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>>383824271

Boomers are great. It would be choice being one and blowing Raiders and other dummies into the sky all day every day.
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>>383826479
Honestly with their flight simulators and potential to reverse-engineer the working bomber they could very quickly become a major force.
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>>383823818
Daisy was 'the only woman in [his] life besides [his] mother', meant as a surrogate mother figure, he's firmly playing for the home team sexually
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>>383827610
Ohhhh.... I gotcha.
In that case, I feel confident in saying he's a gay guy in vidya done right.
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>>383802598
The game would've have more Legion content and a companion if Bethesda gave Obsidian more than one year to make the game
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