>Makoto Naegi >Nagito Komaeda real make u a thnk

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>>383762337
>Nagito Komaeda
>anagram for "Makoto Naegi da"
>is not actually Makoto Naegi
What did they mean by that?

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I wonder what they meant.

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>>383762337
>both are the "ultimate lucky student"
>nagito makes extremely convoluted ass backwards retarded multistage plans that depend on a super precise series of events unfolding solely by luck, which is exactly what happens
>makoto does nothing, has nothing but bad luck throughout the whole incident
BRAVO KOJIMA

>actually thought nagito was makoto when at first playing the games
I gotta stop assuming crap but where's the fun in that?

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>>383764320
>start game
>immediately greeted by nagito
>"My name is-"
>"My name is... Nagito Komaeda."

>>383764320
That's the point
Same Seiyuu
What this anon >>383762623 pointed out
Similar dialogue etc

>>383762337
Why the fuck is Hajime's nip VA boyish? He's manlier than naegi in every way

>>383762623
Apparently the writer said that was a complete coincidence.

I'm just fucking glad Bryce Papenbrook finally got to voice a really complex and interesting character. That dude got pigeonholed as Generic Anime Protagonist and it's really unfair because he's got some good acting chops.

>>383763492
Makoto was lucky enough to avoid the tragedy outside while Komaeda got mind broken.
All of Naegi's bad luck tends to lead to a good result in its own way, if you look at all those instances.

I remember in the early days of orens LP that people thought Naegi and Togami entered the second killing game to try and help the new kids out
And then there was that one post on the second page that said lol what if they're all in a VR simulation which I completely ignored until it actually happened

>>383766664
>watching lps
>knowing lps by name
>giving a fraction of shit whatsoever

>>383763492
Makoto got saved mid-execution once. But the real answer of course is that only by the second game did the writers decide to make "ultimate luck" as well as being slaves to own ultimate talents into a plot device.

>>383766912
>not knowing orens LP
newfag

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>tfw you do all of Nagito's social events
>tfw you find out everything that happens to him is unlikely in either the best or worst ways
>tfw you realize it's a miracle he's even somewhat sane after shit like winning the lottery at the same time his entire family dies in a plane crash
>tfw you realize he can't ever enjoy anything in his life because he knows the other shoe will drop and it will all be taken away from him, so of course he gleefully welcomes his own pain and misery since that's the only time when he can actually expect something nice to happen without things getting any worse for him
>tfw you finally understand that Nagito did literally nothing wrong and was just trying to destroy all that remained of Junko's gang of despair crazies while ensuring that the one innocent person survived, and that he was willing to kill himself in a painfully brutal way in order to do the right thing
>tfw you realize that despite living his entire life in a goddamn wonderland of torture where up is down and good is bad, Nagito still managed to be a hero on the side of hope

>>383767575
>giving a shit about muh precious LPers
Guards, this woman has lost her composure.

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>>383767625
>beat the game
>beat the island scenario to get the remaining free time events
>a couple months later learn that I missed several events in game which depend on having particular gifts in the inventory at particular times in the story
>nowhere before was it mentioned
>no desire to play through the plot again just for the events

>>383767803
it wasn't the type of LP you think you retard
jesus christ you're stupid

>>383768061
>no desire to play through the plot again just for the events

That's what they invented Chapter Select for.

Kyoko is cute.

>>383768892
There really is no more moderation, is there.

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>>383766912
Oren's lp was the only way to know anything about dangan in 2011 unless you could read moonrunes newfag

>>383768710
Why don't you enlighten me then? You seem to be awfully agitated that somebody on the internet doesn't know an extremely specific as well as largely irrelevant thing that you happen to know.

>>383769067
What kind of turbo weeb even needed to know about Danganronpa back in 2011?

>>383769142
see
>>383769067
now don't reply

>>383769142
Let's Play started on forums.

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>>383769067
>unless you could read moonrunes
私ができないことを暗示する

>>383762337
Is there any actual relation between these characters, or do they just sort of look alike and have similar voices?

>>383769446
Nagito is gay for Makoto.

>>383769446
They have the same >>>talent
Them looking alike and having the same VA is pretty much only done to fuck with the player.

I don't see how Nagito is the spanner in Junko's works besides that room switchup fiasco that saves his life in the first case.

They act like his klutziness would somehow unravel any convoluted plan when she could have gotten rid of the shit like 5 different ways without Kirigiri cockblocking her.

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It still hurts.

>>383769446
They have no connection whatsoever.

They just have the same voice actor, same talent, similar looks and clothing because fuck you why would something cool happen when we have VR sims

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>>383768061
>a couple months later learn that I missed several events in game which depend on having particular gifts in the inventory at particular times in the story
You have an example of this? Never knew this was a thing either

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>>383769620
I don't care for her much but even I thought that was hard to watch. Poor girl didn't deserve all that

>>383769620
I've never felt as awful as I did watching that episode, Junko is worse than Hitler fused with Dio.

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Nagito a best

>>383769689
One example is that at some moment when the girls go to the beach, if you have a Man's Nut in the inventory, you can talk to Kazuchi to peek on them. Another is that when Nekomaru and Akane are ambiguosly taking about either fucking or training together, having some kind of other item allows you to follow them. All in all, read a guide.

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>>383769620

>>383769943
Didn't watch the anime, but Junko was a shit character in both DR1 and DR2. No depth at all, lolsorandumb wacky personality, and not as imposing as she was hyped throughout the games to be. Nagito and even Toko are much better examples of demented characters.

>>383769978
Man's Nut is the one you need to see Mahiru and Hiyoko bathing at the start of Chapter 2.

their interaction in the dr3 anime was so fucking disappointing

>>383770109
Even more of a reason to check a specialized guide instead of asking me.

>>383770101
Junko's motivation is that she has perfect analytic skills which means she can predict the future. The only thing she can't predict is despair and that's why she's a despair slut.

>>383770101
Junko is to despair as Nagito is to hope

It's like a fetish, she creates despair because its the only thing she can enjoy

>>383770191
I only remember that one because it's the best one out of all of them.

>>383769446
It's a meta twist on how ridiculously likely it seems that Komaeda and Naegi are the same person and yet they have absolutely no connection. The game never overtly addresses it but it's one of those things were even before release people were annoyed at how obvious it was that Naegi had been brainwashed or something.

>>383770101
I like to think that's kinda the point
Junko's entire existance is fucking with people so this is her way of fucking with the cast as well as the audience by being this "lul so randum XD" sterotype
Which just makes her character that much better

>>383770101
The actions of Genocide Jack are beyond Toko's control, Nagito is just weirdly obsessive to the point of being potentially dangerous, and neither of them forced a class to kill each other, forced a second class into a killing game which she broadcast to the world, brainwashed a third class into being her agents of despair, and single-handedly triggered what is basically the apocalypse.

is the second game good? I finished the 1st a few days ago, then started up the 2nd & nothing makes any sense.

>>383770681
The second is better than the first.

>>383770387
Alluding a feat to a character doesn't make that character more well written than it is. Junko isn't.

>>383770354
You're definitely overanalyzing.

>>383770241
Sounds like an asspull. Is this from DR3?

>>383770681
The second one is better in pretty much every way.

When Kyoko and Byakuya appeared at the end, I was instantly reminded of how much more boring DR1's cast was compared to DR2.

>>383770772
>Sounds like an asspull. Is this from DR3?

Yep.

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>>383770828
I played them back to back and found DR1 a more satisfying experience.

Cast was better.
Plot was better.
Pacing was better.
Character design was MUCH better.

>>383770907
Then go back and play the first after experiencing the second and you'll see how garbage it really is.

>>383770881
I guess I gotta watch it sometime before Killing Harmony drops.

>>383771003
No you don't.

V3 is in an entirely different setting and is basically alt. universe compared to the other games.

You only need to watch 3 if you want to see the end of the story from 1 and 2.

>>383770907
So did I. Can't agree with pretty much every point you said. The only character that was worse than their counterpart in DR1 was Peko.

>>383771078
>The only character that was worse than their counterpart in DR1 was Peko.

Peko was better than Mondo. And I say this as a guy who doesn't like Peko very much.

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>"If you force shutdown the simulation, you will lose all your memories and revert back do being psychos!"
>they don't
>no reason given other than "muh hop"

>>383771141
I really didn't like the "I'm just a tool don't cry for me I'm only doing my duty blah blah blah obviously there's more to it than that but I'm too autistic for feelings" thing

That was annoying and the scene really dragged on.

>>383771243
It was a miracle, Anon.

>>383771141
Peko was worse than Toko though. :^)

>>383771281
And I didn't like Mondo and Kiyotaka being fagboys. That was also annoying and dragged on for far too long.

>>383770772
Well I guess mostly I was arguing against the idea that Junko isn't as imposing as the buildup implied, though I guess not all of those actions were represented in game.

>>383771426
Toko's counterpart is Kazuichi.

And she wasn't better than him until Ultra Despair Girls.

>>383771243
>if we just hope real hard, something literally impossible will happen

10/10 ending, a true masterpiece

>>383771452
It was forced, but I liked the affect Mondo's death had on Kiyotaka. There was an interesting weight to it.

... that they threw away when we went Super Saiyan.

>>383771452
Fagboys and bonding men are different things, anon.
One thing that was cringeworthy and dragged for too long was Kyotaka having a breakdown after Mondo's death though. And then he was killed off before having a chance to revert or settle down in any way, in that way it seemed almost like a mercy killing.

>>383771452
>not liking ishimaru
confirmed shit taste

>>383771535
>Toko's counterpart is Kazuichi.
How?

Toko is a secret serial killer
Peko is a secret serial killer
Kazuichi is a faggot with a princess fetish

>>383771535
Wouldn't Kazuchi's counterpart be Leon?

>>383771616
>Fagboys and bonding men are different things, anon.

They spent an entire night doing butt stuff in the sauna.

That's not male bonding.

>>383771656
Leon's counterpart is Teruteru.
>>383771652
Toko and Kazuichi are both smelly losers who bring nothing to the table as far as class trials go, they survive until the end and they both have an object of their affection who will never, ever return their feelings.

>>383771835
>Leon's counterpart is Teruteru.
In what way? Are you setting up counterparts just by the order of who dies where?

>>383771070
I'm so sorry.

>>383772186
>Are you setting up counterparts just by the order of who dies where?

Basically. I don't really think they fit, I just like the challenge of bullshitting up a reason why it could be like I just did with Toko and Kazuichi.

>>383772297
I'm not him, but I'm also just going to continue believing V3 is in a different universe
In fact, I'm going to do that with DR all across the board
There is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise

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>>383772453
Danganronpa being fiction in the V3 universe and the V3 universe being more meta doesn't mean they're the same universe.

Have you guys never dealt with alt. universes in fiction before?

>>383772453
>>383772684
I'm not talking about alternative universe. I just feel sorry as there are people who want to play V3 but don't have experience of the previously games (including spin-off) and anime. They will be very confusing with V3's plot due to it.

>>383773242
I wouldn't be too worried about that, Danganronpa is still pretty niche in the west. I doubt there's going to be a significant amount of people who aren't familiar with Danganronpa playing V3.

>>383773919
I'm very positive there will be at least some people who's wiling to play V3 only for female protagonist.

>>383774137
In that case their knowledge of the previous titles wont matter because they'll probably drop the game after the first trial.

>>383774342
Haha, good point.

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>>383774517
>haha