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How comes Nintendo can get away with selling handheld Switch

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How comes Nintendo can get away with selling handheld Switch games for $60 while 3DS, Vita, and Playstation TV games are $40?
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>>383756953
They are mostly console-style games.
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Try not being a fucking leaf next life
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>>383757059
this
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>>383756953
>>>being canadian
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>>383757057
What the fuck does that have to do with them charging $60 for a handheld cartridge? Splatoon 2 looks like a upscaled Vita game.
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>>383756953
The Switch is both a home console and a handheld.
Also can we range ban Canadians yet?
Sick to death of their shitposting about Nintendo stuff because their communist government loves makeing video games cost a million dollars.
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What the fuck is with this one Canadian and his obsession with the Switch?
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>>383757250
The Vita is a handheld and the PSTV is a home console, yet their games are $40

care to explain?
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>>383757197
>Splatoon 2 looks like a upscaled Vita game.
How can you upscale something that doesn't exist?
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Post YFW you're not a leaf
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>>383757337
Yes and the Switch is both a home console and a handheld.
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OH
CANADA
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>>383757434
you mean a handheld with HDMI capabilities. the switch uses the same ARM architecture as Vita. it's aimed for mobile devices.
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>>383757337
the games are shit so they sell them for lower to get rid of them. Next
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>>383757431
You wish you were a leaf hoser.
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>Best buy
>CANADA
You only have yourself to blame, Leaf.
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>>383757197
When the gameplay, amount of content, and depth is designed to surpass Wii U games, it's reasonable to cost 60 dollars. We're talking about the first sandbox Mario on handhelds, a full-fledged sequel to Splatoon, a literal Wii U game (Breath of the Wild). The price of ARMS is overinflated, though.
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>>383757505
so you're willing to pay $20 extra for a game cartridge because it's licensed by nintendo?

it's the N64 all over again
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>>383757431
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>>383757362
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>>383757573
>When the gameplay, amount of content, and depth is designed to surpass Wii U games
literally fucking what? nintendo is literally getting away with selling $60 for 1 2 switch and a arcade pokemon game port
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>>383757582
I'm willing 20 funbucks more becuase it's not a shit game like those on vita.

If you want further proof, convince sony to release their vita game on switch, so i can not buy them because they are shit
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How can Nicolas get away with selling a free game for $30
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>People complain about the specs
>"It's a handheld!"
>People complain about game prices
>"It's a console!"

Switch fanboys in a nutshell
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>>383757928
>Not the first post from this IP
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>>383757935
not vita trash, that's for certain.
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>>383757965
>you're only allowed to post once in this thread\
fuck off leaf
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>>383758039
>OP trying to turn "leaf" against other's

Keep trying OP, you fucking leaf.
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>>383757791
so not only you would pay for shit but you would pay extra just because it has the nintendo seal of quality on it
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>>383758026
Just regular trash
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>>383758149
Nah, i doN,t pay for shit. Is english too hard for you?

Hence, i don't play vita games (because they are shit(and i don't play shit games(like vita ones)))
>>383758223
>shitposting louly

keep being mad, brainlet
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>>383757573
>When the gameplay, amount of content, and depth is designed to surpass Wii U games
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>>383758321
you say you dont pay for shit yet you got shit coming outta your mouth jit
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>>383758458
Nah, i don't have vita games in my mouth. You got a vivid imagination, retard
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>>383758223
>comparing pre rendered gameplay footage to actual in game footage downgrades like watch dogs
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>>383757928
this
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>>383758321
>louly

Wot
>>383758665
>literal "it's okay when Nintendo does it"
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>>383757197
What does being on a cartridge have to do with it?
BotW is a console game on a disc on the Wii U and costs the same as a cartridge on the Switch
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>>383757431
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>>383757431
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>>383758914
BotW is free on Wii U since anyone can pirate it directly from Nintendo's servers on any firmware.
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>>383756953
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>>383757431
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>>383758223
>mfw reviews say BOTW has nice graphics
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>>383757431
>>383757528
>>383757606
>>383759081
>>383759095
>>383759242
>Nintendo fans can't defend this so they resort to this shitposting
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>>383756953
the real crime here is that digital games are still $60 despite not having to pay for packaging/distribution
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>>383758786
>It's not okay when Nintendo does it
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>>383757250
The PSP GO can be used as a handheld and can be connected to your TV with a cable and you can sync a PS3 controller to it. It's a home console and a handheld, yet it's games are $40 .
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>>383759227
So? That doesn't mean it's not a console game
Wtf are you on about?
Are PC games not games because you can pirate them?
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>>383757573
SMT4 had more gameplay, amount of content and depth than a Wii U game, and Atlus didn't charge $60
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>>383759338
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>>383757724
1 2 switch opened at 50.

You're kind of right though. I'd be interested to see the budget of a switch game versus a 3ds game. I imagine that's a large portion of it.
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>>383759338
>that image
oh yeah THAT actually happened.
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>>383758786
I never said that.
Downgrades are a common practice, fucking everyone does it and shitpostsers like yourself get surprised when Nintendo does shit every other company does.
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>>383759692
I don't get it
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>>383756953
Because it's a console?
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>>383756953
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>>383757798

because retrofags and collectors LOVE physical releases of shit.
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>>383759843
It's a handheld. It has handheld specs. It's games are developed with ARM CPU in mind. Games come on cartridges no bigger than 3DS games.
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>>383759860
his hair is sticking up
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>>383759338
>haha remember that time /v/ did something that wasn't autistic screeching what faggots
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>>383757362
Damn.
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>>383759815
iwata died for this
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>>383759919
And?
What does the physical size of the cartridge have to do with anything?
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>>383756953
The carts the Vita used were about 2-4GB and maxed out at ~3.3GB usable, were around class 4 in speed and cost about 4-6 times what printing a Bluray disk cost to manufacture.
Switch carts range from 2-32GB sizes, are around UHS-1 in speed and cost even more than Vita carts to manufacture.

So that reason alone is why games went up in price. Handheld games were already cutting into profits in that they retailed for $20 less at the same time as costing more to make compared to home console games.
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>>383760626
less plastic needed to manufacture the game cartridges and cases and no manuals, yet games are still $60
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>>383756953
>Canadians
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>>383760768
So PS4 game cases justify the cost of the actual game?
Games aren't more or less expensive because of their packaging size
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>>383761015
PS4 games usually get price cuts. Nintendo games almost never go down in price in retail stores or the eshop unless its 3 years later.
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>>383761109
Because Nintendo games are worth owning while lots of PS4 games end up in the bargain bin
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>>383761187
yeah man all those wii u games were totally worth owning. not like you could pirate them for free or find them in the bargain bin at the used section of ebay.
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>>383761261
Being able to pirate the game doesn't mean it's worthless
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>>383761412
the point is that they are not worth owning for full retail price, hence being able to pirate them easily or find them for low ass prices in the used market.
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>>383756953
It's okay when Nintendo becomes the Apple of the video game industry.
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>>383761554
Not everyone knows how to homebrew their Wii U, knows it's even a thing, or feels like stealing
Nintendo games sell, and people are willing to pay full price for it even if it's years old because to them it's worth it
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>>383758353
Well gee, it's a good thing then that 1, 2, Switch doesn't cost $60.
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>>383761913
it does in leaf land
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>>383759270
>Nintendo didn't pay reviewers >>383759527
>He thinks I own a Playstation
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>>383757486
No it isn't
Mobile platforms don't get games like splatoon or BOTW or odessey.
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>>383762093
I didn't say you did
I'm saying literally every company shows off something amazing and the end result is a let down in comparison
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>>383762226
I wonder why
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>>383762323
And yet you'll cry "It's okay when Nintendo does it"
I wonder why
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>>383762115
>Mobile platforms don't get games like splatoon or BOTW or odessey.
no shit because those are nintendo exclusive games.
it still doesn't change the fact that the switch uses ARM hardware similar to smartphones and Vita. the console is a handheld since its inception.
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>>383762704
I'm a Nintenbro and I'm with this guy
Argue all you want but the Switch is just a handheld you can plug into your TV, not a console you can take on the go
The Switch is a console the the same way the Galaxy S8 is a computer
Just because you can dock it and it shows up on your TV, doesn't make it a console
Heck I can plug my S4 into a TV using an MHL cable or Chromecast, it's still just a phone
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>>383762668
Calm down Jamal, compooters are hard we get it.
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>>383762704
It using an arm processor heroes not make it a handheld. All consles until this generation used a RISC or mips processor style. Which are low power and made for mobile devices.
The jaguar processor it a damn laptop pricessor

The switch is a proper console as demonstrated by the games it gets. Fifa and nba2k and wwe 2k are the full console versions.

To call it a handheld is to limit it
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>>383762986
>implying I'm a nigger
For what reason?
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>>383759886
It's true. I didn't need to buy this at all, but I did anyway. I know this game like the back of my hand now, so I beat it 100% in one sitting.
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>>383763053
I could plug my PSP into a TV, does that make it a console too?
What about my phone?
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>>383762957
I am sorry for your ignorance.
It violates far to many handheld conventions.
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>>383763086
Refer to the picture Jamal
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>>383763202
Such as?
Literally the only "convention" a handheld has, is that you hold it in your hands
The power of it has nothing to do with it
Why wasn't the Vita a console? It was the most powerful handheld at the time, plus with a cable you could plug it into your t.v
Same thing the Switch does
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>>383759636
Atlus games on Switch will be 70 USD because people let them get away with 50 USD 3DS games.
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>>383763216
>cry about how "it's okay when Nintendo does it"
>get btfo
>call anon a nigger
>"it's because you think computers are racist"
You're so fucking retarded I can't even go on with you
Here's your (You)
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>>383763342
Actually, the cable was never released for the Vita. They did release the PSP one, so the analogy is still there.
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>>383759815

Was a "fuck you" card sent the next year? I remember Ninty having an especially shitty e3
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>>383757431
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That's why they will never admit to what the switch is. Because they can just say it's a hybrid and sell the games for console prices

PS4 and Xbox games are 79.99
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>>383763572
>n-no I'm right Nintendo is best I'm not retarded!
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>>383763172
No.
Think about what all handhelds do that

the switch does not.
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>>383763172
The Switch runs at higher specs that would not be possible for a portable device when docked, and it has the full feature set of home consoles such as multiplayer on one device with multiple controllers. It's not the same as a handheld feeding its standard output to a TV screen.
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>>383763992
What do handhelds do that the Switch doesn't?
What to you makes the Switch a console other than power because the Vita was the most powerful handheld at the time and still only a handheld ,while the Switch is currently the weakest console and still a console to you
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because nobody would pay that much for a sony product. nintendo is just better

"why do people pay $50,000 more for a porsche?"
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>>383763342
See that's why you are a fucking idiot.
The control schemes are invariably integrated into the body of the system itself.
There is no supported way to share a handheld screen
You cannot connect extra controllers to the handheld.

Those are three conventions thst every handheld does or doesn't do thst the switch does.
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>>383764134
>The Switch runs at higher specs that would not be possible for a portable device when docked
Sony could literally makes a Vita 2 right now that would be more powerful than the Switch and still call it a handheld
If you can take it with you and play it on the bus, it's a handheld
Plugging it into a TV doesn't make it a console even if you can use multiple controllers on it
It's a handheld with multiplayer support
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>>383764138
It's still a console to me and the people thst make it. Power is irrelevant. The Wii was a console was it not?

You have to hold a handheld. You never have to touch the switch.
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>>383764349
So you're saying handhelds can't evolve?
There was a time where handhelds only had 2 buttons now they have ABXY buttons
"OH SHIT 4 BUTTONS?LIKE A CONSOLE? GUESS THE NINTENDO DS IS A CONSOLE YOU CAN TAKE ON THE GO"
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>>383764550
>You have to hold a handheld. You never have to touch the switch.
>Connect phone into TV using MHL cable/Chromecast
>Connect controller via Bluetooth
>Phone is now a console since I don't hve to hold it
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>>383764550
>You have to hold a handheld. You never have to touch the switch.
Then it's just a handheld you never take out of the dock
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>>383764550
>You have to hold a handheld. You never have to touch the switch.
By that same logic, I could throw out my dock and it'll always be a handheld
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>>383763053
>uses a ARM processor found in tablets
>has a battery
>"not a handheld"
???

PS4 at least uses a x86 APU which is based on PC architecture. Switch straight up uses a ARM cortex, the same shit you find in the PS Vita.
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>>383764627
Sure they can but the switch violates too many conventions. Even the styles of games are co sole.
But remember in order to use s handheld you have to hold it even of its connected to a tv.
The switch does not have thst problem. You never have to touch it ever

P.s. the fact thst it get a power boost once docked is also a strike against it being s handheld
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>>383764702
Nope console are specialized hardware.
Put your straw away
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>>383765010
The Galaxy S8 does the exact same thing
You plug it into the dock and it get's a power boost you don't have to hold it, you can use a keyboard and mouse or a controller
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>>383764863
You would be using it in portable mode but it is still a console
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>>383764550
>>383765185
You would be using it in docked mode but it is still a handheld
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>>383757362
God fucking damn Nice one lad I dont condemn your argument though.
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>>383765102
As opposed to phones which have what kind of hardware?
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>>383764991
So loke i saod this is the first generation to use x86 architecture.
It's a hybrid system thst what it is. It's dock kicks up it's power. He'll Nintendo had a supplemental comput8ng patents. This may just be the beginning for the dock.
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>>383765167
It's not a console though by thst logic laptops are also consoles
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>>383765494
No, by your logic laptops are also consoles
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>>383765265
Nope.
You never have to touch it.
Unlike every other handheld ever
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>>383765419
>It's dock kicks up it's power.
The dock doesn't do anything but let the Switch know it's ok to draw more power
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>Switch games look like shit
It's a handheld!

>Switch games are pricey
It's a console!

???
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>>383757928
best post in this thread
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>>383765628
Yeah.
Which is not a convention of anyhandheld
Even ones you could connect to the tv
>>383765523
No
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>>383757431
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>>383765783
>No
>plug handheld into tv
>"its a console"
>plug laptop into tv
>"it's still just a laptop"
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>>383756953
>A fucking leaf
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>>383765783
Ya being underclocked isn't a convention of a console either
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You'll have to pay for quality I'm afraid, no Switch no service.
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>>383764627
Split-screen multiplayer is not any part of a handheld's specifications because handhelds are held in one's hands. A device functioning as a handheld can only reasonably serve as one person's personal screen, so handheld-style multiplayer requires each player to use their own device.

If you're playing split-screen multiplayer on the Switch, you're going to have to either hook it up to the TV or set it down to act as a mini TV screen for multiple players and their controllers. At that point, it's no longer functioning as a handheld. All the same, if you use it as a personal device with the screen and controls all in one form factor, it's acting as a handheld. That's the entire concept of the Switch. It is not difficult to understand.
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>>383759815
all those Wii U images are fucking hilarious. Nintendo pays their fans back by discontinuing their console early and porting all the games to the Switch.
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>>383765618
Yes.
You never have to plug it into a TV
Unlike every other console ever
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>>383765894
No that's just you moving my argument around.
You brought in phones thst are not dedicated gaming devices and compared them.
They are irrelevant. All the things you need to connect them to the tv are non included accessories. The switch is not that. The console is a dedicated gaming divide designed to be attached to the tv. Your phone is not that your laptop is not that.
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>>383766015
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_game_console
>A handheld game console is a small, portable self-contained video game console with a built-in screen, game controls, and speakers.
Sure you can share a controller so it's not totally "self-contained" but other than that, the Switch is by all definitions, a handheld
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>>383765976
All the cosole are underclocked.
That's not really much of an indictment anyway
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>>383766153
>>383766269
You lost
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are you surprised nintengaf is here to support their precious company? Day 1 DLC? $60 Releases? paid online? NO PROBLEM!
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>>383766302
The PS4/Xbox One aren't underclocked in one mode, and overclocked in another
The run the same clockspeeds, all the time
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>>383766070
The exception proves the rule. That's what makes it hybrid. It does what no other console does.
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>>383757057
Vita has literal PS2 and PS3 console ports yet they still priced at $40
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>>383766439
It's okay when Sony/Microsoft do it
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>>383766459
That still doesn't mean anything. It's a hybrid console, first of its kind
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>>383766596
Nvidia Shield did the hybrid console first.
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>>383766269
But you never have to holds the switch
>>383766357
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>>383766690
And you never have to dock the Switch
How many times are you going to repeat yourself and force me to repeat myself?
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>>383759338
and people says /v/ isn't Nintendo place
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>>383766269
Yes, that's exactly what I just said. It can be used as a small, portable, self-contained video game console with built-in controls and speakers. If you're not using it as self-contained device, but as a box that connects to external inputs and outputs, it's not functioning as a handheld. Showing that it can be a handheld does not show that it is not a home console, because being able to act as both is the whole point and the intended purpose of the thing.
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>>383756953
>A
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>>383766641
No that's not what the shield did at all.
>>383766739
I won repeat until you understand.
The simple fact thst you are not REQUIRED to touch it defeats your argument thst it's a handheld. The fact thst it benefits from being docked also defeats your point that it's a handheld
The fact that it's screen can accommodate 4 players defeats your point the fact thst the control scheme is not Integrated into the system defeats your arguments.
The switch is a hybrid. Why don't you get about that?
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>>383767130
>FUCKING
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>>383759815
>>383763696
Yeah this is it.
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>>383767146
>shield uses same ARM architecture as Switch
>has a screen and controller
>can be hooked up to hdtv

shield did it first, the switch copied it.
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>>383767523
Architecture mean nothing let it go retard.
And no
But it is irrelevant any way
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>>383767783
>"n-no nintendo didn't copy. they made the nvidia tegra chip and their idea original"
kill yourself
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>>383767890
You're not making much of a case for Switch "copying" things by cooperating with Nvidia on their hardware. Do you think Capcom was stealing from Marvel by making Marvel vs. Capcom?
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>>383766269
>The Nintendo Switch is a hybrid device
way to get btfo from your own wikipedia link you retard

>inb4 I was right all along
You're arguing semantics like a retard
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>>383756953
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>>383767890
Wtf are you talking about?
What does the tegra have to do with anything? .
The shield controller thing was more akin to what the vita did than what the switch does anyway.
You are fucking dumb
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>>383768131
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>>383756953
>Canada
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>>383766269
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch
>Nintendo considers the Switch a "hybrid" console; it is designed primarily as a home console
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>>383768212
>>383768079
dumbass jits, as expected from nintendo consumers.
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>>383756953
>be me
>be a heterosexual
>be you
>be a homosexual
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>>383768368
Whatever make you feel better about being wrong.
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>>383756953
You understand that the Cartridges haven't been in circulation for long right?
Its a new type of proprietary card that hasn't yet to be made cheaper yet.

>Why are new things expensive

the first pill to develop costs billions, the 2nd and everyone after costs cents.

The switch hasn't been out long enough to have many or any stacks of used games in piles for dirt cheap yet, and that wont be the case for at least another year.
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>>383769050
You're thinking about this the wrong way. When you're paying for a game, you're not mainly paying for the physical media. It's the intellectual property, the data, the development cost. The cost of the cartridge is relatively insignificant. There are cartridge-based Switch games at low prices, and games are typically the same prices digitally as at retail.

The games cost the same as full console games because they're developed to the scale of full console games. It doesn't make sense to charge $20 less for Breath of the Wild on Switch than on Wii U when it runs at higher specs on the Switch, not lower.
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>>383757431
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>>383769897
I know dude, I'm saying that there is a set lowest price for these things for a time when the technology is new, not new in its development, but in its production. No other manufacturers have yet to come to Nintendo with cheaper alternatives for the same production just yet.

Of course the price is on the Data, I don't know why you think I don't know that.

I still haven't seen a Wii U or Switch game hit the prices in Australia that the average PS4 game does (90-110)
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>>383770656
Well, you were responding to the question of why Switch games are $60 instead of $40, and you said it had to do with the proprietary cards not being cheap to make yet, so it's hard to interpret it any other way than that you thought the $60 price was because of the physical media cost. If that wasn't what you meant, I'm still confused about what you were trying to say.
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>2 years later, /v/ still doesn't know the definition of hybrid
wow
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>>383768361

You do realise that is just the marketing for western countries right? Nintendo pushes the Switch as a handheld game console 1st(as it should), because handhelds in the first place sell more in Japan while home consoles are more popular in the west. Also they want to still milk their 3DS cow for a while longer before they silently kill the system.
Regardless of any of this the Switch is still a handheld type console because of its form factor and the many restrictions that come with it. Just because it has a TV or tabletop mode it does not matter. It must still conform to being a portable system. Also the games just cost more because the games are more expensive to develop for than a 240p ps1 graphics system.
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>>383757724
Over a million people bought 1 2 Switch for whatever retarded reason, they were perfectly justified in charging what they did for it. That game probably didn't cost anything to develop.
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Tell me why it's okay for BotW to be $60 on Wii U but not on Switch. I'll wait.
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>>383756953
Why do leafs always complain?
After currency conversion it's basically the same price. Your games aren't more expensive.
You are just poor.
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>>383771581
People say this a lot, that Nintendo pushes the Switch as mainly a handheld in Japan, but the marketing for the Switch is pretty much the same in Japan. They focus on its three styles. That is why it is called the Switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzWwtZUcQk

If they meant to market it as primarily a handheld, they wouldn't be showing the Joy-Cons detached from the console so much. They want to show their versatility with games like 1-2-Switch and ARMS, which relies on its functionality as more of a home console.
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>>383757197
>handheld cartridge?
There's no such thing as a "handheld cartridge" it's just a cartridge. You know, like the ones every console before you were born used?
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>>383759558
>arguing that the pspgo is even close the the level as the switch.
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>>383757059
/thread
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>>383756953
because Nintendo considers the switch to be a home console not a handheld you dimwit. only people on /v/ think that the Nintendo switch is a handheld.
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>americuck nintoddIers immediately derail the thread
can't wait for them to be banned from 4chan, forever
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>>383774285
>a fucking leaf
lmao
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>>383774594
I'm euro master race.
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>>383757431
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>>383774625
>euro
Yeah sure, some cancucks speak French but you're not in France.
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>>383774763
Blbej americkej cuck :^)
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>>383757928
Because it's neither of them. It's the first console of its type.
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>>383757337
clearly sony is the bad guy for selling games at $40 instead of $60
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>>383776153
If sony released a PS4 portable and released Uncharted 4 for it, looking and playing the same as the console version
How much should it cost?
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>>383757431
I want to fuck dee
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>>383757362
rekt
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>>383776320
$50
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>>383776659
If they released Uncharted 5 on both PS4 and PS4P on the same day, and they look and play the same, how much should each version cost?
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>>383776760
either $60 for PS4 version and $40 for PS4P version or $50 for both versions.
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>>383776896
Why should the same game cost $20 less on PS4P?
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>>383756953
Because they're console games and the budgets reflect that. There's a big fucking difference between 3DS quality games and Switch quality games. For one thing, the games that are coming to the Switch are games that's available on Xbox and Playstation and guess what, they cost 60$ there too. If anything games are cheap because the price has never changed even if budgets went up.
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>>383756953
The higher the budget, the bigger the cost. Switch games including Splatoon 2 do not have the lower budget of a 3DS/Vita game because they obviously take advantage of the Switch's Console-teir power compared to lower-tech handhelds.

Seriously, compare the graphics of a 3DS game to a Wii U game like Smash Bros and it should be obvious to you why one costs more than the other.
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>>383757362
Underrated post
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>>383756953
No it doesn't work that way, you get to have a opinion worth listening to when you stop being a leaf blaming everyone for ripping you off except your jewish government.
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>>383764476
>Sony could do ________
No they couldn't. They could either copy the Switch, or make a shitty PS4 laptop. Because Nintendo has the premier mobile chip manufacturer locked up in a contract with the most cost efficient and powerful mobile chip on the market at this moment. And don't point to experimental Snapdragon chips that get support dropped in less than 2 years. They would never do a specific chip for consoles or properly support one at a reasonable price.

Unless you mean Sony will make a $800 version of the Switch with a minimal power advantage?
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>>383778374
That would be a very Sony thing to do.
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How can people call the switch a console first? It's literally running off a tegra x1, that's like calling the ouya or a flagship smartphone a console. It's based on a mobile platform and should be treated as such.
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>>383756953
They're games people want.
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>>383757197
At least that is an improvement over the first one, which people claimed looked like a PS2 game.
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>>383757362
Oh damn
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>>383778506
And they would probably drop support for the thing within a month of release if it didn't sell well immediately.
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>>383778561
The only device Nvidia uses the X1 for is the Nvidia Shield TV console, which is a not a mobile device at all.
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>>383756953
By not having pants on head retarded memory cards? What about an ip anybody outside Japan gives a shit about? Maybe it's some actual fucking first party support instead of leaving the thing to die.
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>>383757431
Not like what I've got is that much better.
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>>383778881
>Shield TV
Which is literally an android tablet, screen not included, based on a mobile platform, ie. ARM.
It's literally an Ouya.
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>>383779065
It literally does not matter if the platform is mobile or not considering that the power rivals that of consoles. Mobile devices becoming exponentially more powerful, but the consumer level has always been far behind, and the Switch is the first mobile device that's relatively affordable and comparably powerful to home devices.
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>>383757250
>The Switch is a handheld with a dock
FTFY
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>>383756953
Why are you paying full price for games?
Go to department stores, they tend to shave $10-$20 off games.

Here in Australia the full price of games are $100, but I walk down a couple blocks to target and games are $70.

People are just stupid.
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>>383756953
Canada is irrelevant
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>>383779195
>>>383779065 (You)
>It literally does not matter if the platform is mobile or not considering that the power rivals that of consoles
Yeah, last generation consoles that is. The Switch's chipset is already outdated, using a first gen X1 with comparable graphics output to a PS3 or Wii U. The only reason you'll see slightly better FPS and loading in some Wii U ports is because of the bump up to 4gigs of ram and a faster processor, which is gimped due to them having to port to ARM instead of coding natively.

>Mobile devices becoming exponentially more powerful, but the consumer level has always been far behind, and the Switch is the first mobile device that's relatively affordable and comparably powerful to home devices.
Wrong, many devices running on Snapdragon chipsets have comparable or significantly greater processing and graphical output than the switch. I mean, there are phones out there with 4k screens and 6gigs of ram that not only benchmark higher then gen 1 X1 chips, but also play games that look much nicer than anything found on the switch while multitasking various tasks in the background.
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>>383780012
>I don't know what I'm talking about the post
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>>383756953
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>>383780098
>I don't have an argument the post
See, I can do this too.
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>>383780012
The Switch is using a second-revision Tegra X1 chip, which is not very old. Nvidia doesn't have anything better for consumer devices as things stand now.

The Switch is a huge step above the Wii U. Wii U ports aren't just getting a little faster, they're jumping from 720p to 1080p. For new games, you can see a huge difference in Splatoon 2 compared to the original, and it continues to maintain 60 frames per second. It's even getting some ports of PS4 games. Putting it around the PS3 is just ridiculous.
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>>383780871
X1 platform is about two years now, that's pretty ancient as far a chips go nowadays. Not only that, but outside of the Pixel C, the Switch is the only other consumer device based on a X1 not developed in house by Nvidia. Considering the X2 and it's successors are being used in consumer vehicles, that means if Nintendo didn't cheap out, they could have very well taken advantage of its superior specs.
Also, being able to run upscaled ports of a console running on two gigs of ram is not impressive in the least, but is admittedly not a good refrence for its capabilities since we can't determine if the ports are native or run on a ported engine. Even so, I don't see anything on that screen that looks great besides the ground and metal textures and maybe the lighting. Low poly models, no antialiasing and shitty 2d sprites for the dripping ink instead of fluid simulation, something Nintendo shown they're more than capable of since the gamecube. I've easily seen better looking PS3 games.
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>>383756953
>You will never have to worry about money in your country
>You will be so pathetic you make consolewar threads and do metal gymnastics to explain why something you hate is doing so well
>You will never be a fucking leaf
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>>383782019
"X2" doesn't exist in any form to be used outside of automobile SOCs, and its successor does not yet exist on the market at all. It was never an option. Nintendo's been planning in tandem with Nvidia for an X1-based chip since the X1's infancy.

No matter how you look at it, rendering Wii U games at a significantly higher resolution shows that it's more powerful, not that it's around the same level. The ink is very fluid, which is something you can see when it's in motion. Running visuals like these at 60 frames per second is not something you could do on the PS3.
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>>383782019
>I've easily seen better looking PS3 games.
Hahahahaha
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>>383756953
>canadians are so friendly lol! :)
>leafs complain and shitpost all around the clock on the internet
????
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>>383758665
>pre rendered gameplay footage
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How the fuck does Nintendo even get away when they copy what their fans did and sell them like "we totally made this lol" like megaman's moves in smash4 was based on that shitty ass flash game and the official remake of metroid 2 has many things of the fan-remade one?
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>>383787602
What?
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>>383787602
>the official remake of metroid 2 has many things of the fan-remade one?
This is the worst bait I've ever seen
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