why aren't you playing Black Desert RIGHT NOW?

>>383743224
It's an MMO

Not infecting my pc with malware > waifus

Because I'm playing ESO instead and actually having fun with video games for the first time in 5 years.

im not a homosexual

because it's p2w

>>383743224

>why are you not playing warframe instead

>>383743224
It is my dream to become a NEET and sink years of my life into some random MMO, forgetting the outside world completely until my medical complaints become so severe I am forced to seek help.

>>383743224
I'm stunned at the amount of Black Desert Shilling going on here when literally nobody but the shills are interested.

>>383743831
It's not as good as it sounds but it's pretty nice. Keep chasing your dream, but always remember to brush your teeth.

>>383743275
So?
>>383743326
Nice meme.
>>383743353
ESO is objectively inferior to BDO
>>383743540
You must be if you don't like cute girls.
>>383743636
Wrong.
>>383743697
Because it's trash.
>>383743831
Don't let your dreams be dreams.
>>383743909
>stop talking about good gams you f-fucking s-shill

Its shit, its unbalanced, its grinding for slight upgrades forever in a shitty game, I dont have the money to invest in cash shop things, lots of other reasons.

>>383743909
>I'm stunned at the amount of Black Desert Shilling going on here when literally nobody but the shills are interested.


alright im samefagging, but this is literally my experience with the game

>boot up game after ridiculous download time
>character creator is garbage unless you want a weeb ass character, feelskoreanman
>decide to just make a weeb ass character, so i reassess which class i want
>classes are fucking gender locked
>make a stinky poo poo ogre wizard monster
>name myself something retarded and hurry myself along before the 2 hours are up
>load into the world, the game instantly drops to 15 FPS and consistently stays low
>game looks like a fucking 2011 MMO
>read reviews
>FUCKING MALWARE
>FUCKING P2W
>FUCKING WEEBSHIT GRIND

dropped.

The texture pop in is fucking atrocious

>>383743224
I don't like rootkits on my computer.

>>383743224
Not even a good MMO

>>383744203
the game goes from an exploration game to a farming simulator

i don't really find the game fun, that's why i'm not playing it.

korean mmo, complete 2,300 2 minute quests grats on lvl 8.

>>383743224

its boring

my computer is a toaster and i have a psnogame

>make 10/10 waifu creator
>attach it to the generic korean grinder shit template that korean MMOs all follow
>runs poorly
>apparently it rootkits you with some "anti-cheat" software

They should've just sold the character creator for $5 and not bothered with the rest of the stuff.

>it's a ''BDO thread where people will say that FFXIV is better'' episode

wew lad

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>>383744664
Forgot pic.

>>383743224
Because it's boring and the visual itemization is literally the worst of any MMO I've ever played.

Is there a single good MMO?

>>383746290
warframe

>>383746398
Warframe is pretty shit desu. The modular weapon shit might get me back in.

>>383743224

Because SecondLife does online lewd better and there is better gameplay in other games. T&A in an MMO is just to sucker horny morons into paying for trash.

why does the face and hair look ok but the neck has a nintendo 64 texture?

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>>383744203
>ywn see an OP this buttblasted again
Christmas in July

>>383746290
Secret World before the Legends re-release

>>383746684
what is the difference before and after?

>>383743224
post feet and i'll consider it

>>383747423
They're not great.

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What for? BDO feels like it has the least incentive to do anything.
I wanted to like this game because it had wizards in it, but even for an mmo it feels like everything is pointless.

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>Busywork Professions, The MMO

I'd like it if devs could just make games instead of overanalyzing what "made other games great" and distilling those mechance into a ghost of a game, then calling it a game.

>>383744929
But no one had even mentioned XIV before you...
What meme is this?

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Nothing quite sounds too good about it other than grafix and waifu creator. I do like how it has boats and swimming/diving but that's really about it. You grind for everything and the cash shop outfit sets don't even look that good. They're all basically the same.

What's so good about it? It looks basically like an open version of Vindictus with worse outfits but infinitely better waifu maker.

>>383743224
So it is possible to make non animu characters in that game.She still looks like a whore though.

>>383748013
this image bothers me because that is nowhere near enough plants to scrub all the carbon out of the air that a human produces.

She would need a dedicated scrubber.

>>383748673
What makes you think those plants are for anything other than decoration?

>>383748860
because you would run out of oxygen in that environment rather quickly.

>>383748967
Then why would you assume the plants have anything to do with oxygen production?

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>>383743224
>>383744203
>it has cute girls so play it

lol try masturbating sometime grindnigger

>>383749063
>why would the organic oxygen-production machines have anything to do with oxygen-production

Haha I'm play- afking right now because that's all you can do in this trash game.

I wish there was a good mmo with hot girls. I miss being able to masturbate while playing a game i liked. Now it's one or the other

>>383749149
not him but the plants in the ISS aren't for producing oxygen

>>383747287
They made Legends Free-to-Play & I heard their free-to-play system is bad. Hopefully they'll fix it.

>>383744203
I actually gave ESO a good shot before returning to BDO. ESO combat is fucking garbage. Its so fucking bad and clunky i couldn't stand it who the fuck would play that shit over BDOs fluid combat? switched over to BDO again. Literally the only MMO worth playing right now and i played them all Final faggotry wow etc.

>>383743224
Because I stopped having fun with it after I got out of the character creator.

>>383749149
Why isn't your complaint
>those plants clearly aren't enough to produce food that a human needs
or
>there's no water production in the picture, she's going to die within a few days
or something equally retarded? Why don't you instead assume what is pictured is only a small part of a larger facility or that resources are produced offsite and delivered? This whole argument is retarded. You're retarded, I'm retarded for arguing this with you.

>>383743224

mandatory rootkit

you aren't enough of a cuck to be ok with that, are you?

>>383749324
The ISS is also a highly-advanced research vessel backed by several multi-trillionaire global nation-groups and not what looks like just a cool place to hang out.

>>383749550
Because you can swim out of the hole in the bottom to go get your other needs. Maybe she brought a waterproof ice chest or something with her; she's got what looks like a tasty beverage. However, air is different because, once you exhaust enough of your air, it becomes more prohibitively difficult to go swim back to the surface, and then, even when you did, you'd have to wait several days for the plants to produce enough oxygen for you to survive again. It's just better to have enough shit down there that you can breathe indefinitely. Also, it's probably not part of a larger facility because you would need to be able to properly control the air pressure in that room, which would require an airlock or for it to be some sort of vessel like a submarine (and, instead, this just looks like a glass cube with a few decorations inside of it for the girl to swim into, change into some comfortable clothes, eat lunch, and spend some time inside of.

>>383749990
>It's more likely that the person who lives there is so stupid that they think a couple potted plants is going to produce enough oxygen than it is for the room pictured to be a part of a larger facility

This is how I know you're retarded

>>383749990
>The ISS is also a highly-advanced research vessel backed by several multi-trillionaire global nation-groups and not what looks like just a cool place to hang out.
And?
There's still nothing there to even indicate those plants are for oxygen. If anything it shows she has been there for a long time, to go with the crumpled calendar on the other side.

>>383750468
well, yeah. She's a tiny anime girl.
>>383750497
because I see no dedicated oxygen scrubber.

>>383750597
>because I see no dedicated oxygen scrubber.
It's off screen you nigger.

>>383749990
>>383750597
>it's impossible for there to be anything to this image we don't see out of the frame of reference

Good lord you are autistic

>>383744203
it's funny that when people make these style of posts, answering multiple questions, they expect that their personal opinions are definitive and everyone they address is wrong.

>>383743224
because I'm taking a break until I can get back on the olvia channels

>>383750679
>>383750712
Seems like something that should be on-screen, personally, so that we know the subject isn't retarded. That's, also, not an argument.

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>>383743224
Because it was a shitty excuse for an MMO

>>383750816
Do you also want the power generator visible? The hydroponic farms? The toilet? It's art, you moron, not a blueprint.

>>383750816
It seems exactly like the unsightly sort of thing that would ruin the beauty of the image, autist-kun. Literally only you would want to see it.

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>>383750597
>well, yeah. She's a tiny anime girl.
Eh most of these kind of images would be disgusting neet shitholes if it was a male, but because it's a girl it's ok

>>383750990
No, because they probably don't exist. I just want to see the oxygen scrubber.
>>383751009
Anon, all it has to be is a rag soaked in quicklime hanging from the ceiling.
>>383751078
Girls are better at cleaning up than boys.

>>383751207
>Girls are better at cleaning up than boys.
Never lived with a girl, I see

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>>383743224
>why aren't you playing Black Desert RIGHT NOW?

Is it better than Tree of Savior?

I have fellow tostards from /vg/ guild who still play ToS, how do I convince them to drop their dogshit gook-MMO and pick up something else?

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>>383743224
Literally the most grasping pay-to-win model I've ever seen in any game.
>b-buh muh pay-to-convenience
No. Spending $0 extra on this game means that you:
- have (at minimum) 16 inventory slots less
- lose 200lbs on carry weight in a game where even fucking money has weight
- lose approx. 1/4 of the drops while grinding without pets to micro the millions of loot piles you generate before they disappear (independently tested and personally verified)
- lose some variable amount of total contribution points on needing to buy storages and worker housings
- can only have one of 3-5 ugly trashbag appearances, because the game has shit default itemization and ugly gear
- lose some variable number of combat stats and gem slots which can be got only by using an outfit coupon
- lose some variable number of miscellaneous stats like visual distance (important because the pop in is fucking horrendous) as well as shit like jump height unless you buy a $40 slut outfit
- you process roughly 1/2 as much without having a slutmaid outfit to split item weights between your person and storage
- you lose access to the investment banks unless you buy cash shop house furnitures to get #1 property score on your house
- lose 30% of silver as tax on auction house transactions
- the list goes on and on

Unless you're willing to pay hundreds to actually make the game playable, this shit is literally a clicker game attached to a character creator. Anyone who plays for the day or so it takes to understand the game knows this.

>>383744203
BDO is objectively inferior to OSRS

>>383751368
My mother's nickname was "the white tornado" for specifically how much she cleaned everything, and my sister has always cleaned up excellently. Only modern womyn don't know how to and/or want to clean things up.

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>>383743224
but i am

>>383751584
Now try someone who isn't from your autistic family.

Because it is pay2win garbage.
Item shop with costumes that give you in game benefits.
That is pay 2 win.
you faggots are in denial.

also grind.
it's impossible to catch up to the end game now.
Also pvp anywhere is cancer.
>g-g-g-get good!
(you)

>>383750990
Well, I'm glad this has been cleared up and we can all agree that oxygen production is not a necessary inclusion in this picture

>>383751694
I'm guessing from this your generals are /tesg/ tier self inserty

>>383751426
I wanna FUCK that girl

>>383751746
>pay2win
You can buy costumes with silver
>also grind
It's an MMO. If you don't like grind you're playing the wrong genre.
>pvp anywhere is cancer
Being a shitter is no ones fault but your own.

>>383752152
If I had a nickel for every time I've seen these cookie-cutter responses in defense of a microtransaction MMO, I would have enough to play competitively in one of them.

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>>383752078
no way niggy

>>383752312
Not an argument.

>>383751468
Half of this shit you can buy from the market place but even the market place is RNG. When you bid on an item you and everyone else is thrown into RNG. The winner is then able to buy said item. The most retarded system i've ever seen.

After having sunk over a year's playtime into WoW and being disgusted with myself I've vowed to never touch another MMO ever again.

>>383743224
gameplay is boring and grindy, you have to buy outfits to change how your character looks, the character creation does not allow for much variety

>>383751584
you ever been inside a woman's bathroom in a bar or club or whatever? women are fucking disgusting

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>>383752312
Lets hear your grandiose idea to reinvent the wheel. Were all listening.

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>>383743224
Because I'm playing secret world legends RIGHT NOW

>>383752320
but why not

>>383745090
is this legit humor used by normies or some pseudo ironic shit made by autists?

>>383752620
Why you doing that to your self. That game is fucking garbage.

>>383752432
which eceleb popularized this phrase

>>383752589
>the bathrooms in places where people are drunk all the time are gross
Stop the presses.

Also, I'm a volunteer janitor for my local church, and the women's bathrooms are always basically spotless. Telling you, it all depends on the kind of culture that the people who use the facilities belong to. Garbage in, garbage out.

>>383752753
Crossposters from /pol/

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>>383752738
I'm having way more fun in SWL than I ever did in BDO. yeah the combat is nowhere near as good but turns outs that's not so important when the other stuff is good. Unlike BDO where the combat is good and everything else is garbage.

>>383743224
>XingCode
hahaha nope

>>383752738
At least it has quests and PvE. BDO PvE is just Dynasty Warriors.

>>383752776
I cleaned the bathrooms at a laser tag facility I worked at during high school. Women's bathroom was always way worse because it got tons more use, and they do more stuff in there. I imagine there are enough people that feel uncomfortable taking a shit in God's house that those bathrooms stay pretty clean regardless.

>>383752312
Its pretty pathetic.People who play this shit get brainwashed to the point they defend literal gambling being in a game that requires you gamble in order to get the best gear.Theres a couple naruto games on PC that do this.

BDO probably would have been more successful if you took out the combat system and just made it a really detailed mercantile game with a super detailed character creator

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>>383743224
>Make a PvP MMO
>Don't balance out the classes

>>383753128
Unironically this. It's the combat grind that killed off my interest when I played.

>>383752972
>glossy skin
>glossy LEATHER
>his fucking clothes are made out of plastic

>>383753149
>make a pvp mmo
>gear matters more than player skill

>>383753038
What the fuck are you talking about BDO has tons of quests and Dynasty Warriors is fun as fuck.

>>383753240
Hey you can't give out equalized gear and stats separate from PvE or else you will drive everyone away.

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>>383753238
Do you like shiny boys, anon?

>>383753262
Fetch quests. Mindlessly killing enemies isn't fun

I played it when it required a VPN and wasn't impressed, the only thing it had going for it was the character creator.

>>383743275
Even worse, a KOREAN MMO.
Get that shit outta my face.

Why should I play this p2w game with literally infinite grind when I've ESO?

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>>383743224
Are we comparing BDO to every other mmorpg or are we just shitting on the whole MMORPG genre? Some of these arguments can be applied to literally any mmo

>>383753359
this is disturbing

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Tip to toe, this is a Bart!

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>>383743224
Sell me on your game.

>>383753359
>Time to oil up

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>>383753563
That's just how characters look when it rains.
They also sweat. So much effort what what, in the end, is a shit game.

>>383753696
He would have done that already if he thought he could

The same reason I quit WoW and am not playing any MMO's, They take up way too much time. I'm going to college and working part time, and have barely any time for friends and single player games as is.

>>383753790
>that cumshot

>>383743224
garbage game that /v/ dropped harder than the bomb in hiroshima early last year go back to your erp general

I got this game and I'll I've done is fish. Something like 24 days played and I'm Master 3 or 4. Been getting a lot of shit done.

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>>383754234
it's SWEAT

Because there is literally nothing to do.

>>383753951
Why live ?

>>383743224
I'm paying for FFXIV and my female(male) character is cuter.

>>383754619
Because I enjoy my life, it feels rewarding. I was really depressed when I was just playing WoW for 16 hours a day.

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>>383754669
only reason I've considered getting into that
gameplay looks a bit shitty though

I wish Illusion would license their character creator

>>383743224

I already grinded to lvl 51 and see no reason to go any further.

>>383755003
I'm a straight male hyur with blue hair.
I like you but you can get out with misqote.

>>383751426
Tell me about your ToS experience. I picked it up recently after hearing it wasn't absolutely broken anymore but I want to know what the game is like after the first 10 levels.

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>>383743224
i got it for 8 bucks on sale, i got to lvl 35 and kinda took a break. been working and doing other stuff. hi paw.

>>383743224
It's more PvP than PvE but I hear they are adding something more to that effect.

>>383743224
I'm poor

>>383743224
is that yuya?