What's /v/ opinion on emulation?

>>383735391
Great for exploring libraries and finding out about new games

Emulation is good.
Thinking about getting a Raspberry Pi for emulation.

>>383735391
kys for stealing from the developers, left-leaning parrasite.

>>383735391
Better than supporting most publishers nowadays

>>383735605
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>383735391
Emulation is great, loads of games I would not be able to play otherwise.

>>383735391

Emulation is the best thing and should be mandatory.

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>>383735605
I'm more right leaning that you and i emulate everyday.

>>383735479
This.

It got me into retro gaming when I was a teen, but I never really played any games on emulators for more than a few minutes.

When I got a job at 16, I bought an NES and started actually playing and beating old games.

>>383735391
I liked it, hopefully it gets a sequel

Good for the future.

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Playing old games is my favorite thing about PC gaming.

>>383735391
The developers take too long to impliment features. Not to mention the devs are assholes

Fuck retroarch, some of the cores are outdated too.

>>383735391
Emulation is great
Retroarch is garbage though

>>383735917
>Retroarch is garbage though

Retroarch just uses shit from other emulators, it's nothing more than a frontend.

>>383735856
>>383735917
All me

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I like emulation.
Is still buy some of the games I emulate just to have them, because I'm a simple minded man who isn't able to let go of physical materialism, but I have nothing against the practice otherwise.
Games aren't going to last forever on discs, even hard drives aren't a permanent answer, but I think we should make an effort to preserve them for as long as possible.
I kinda wish Devs would keep paper copies of code and other design documents in archives.
That way this stuff can be researched and referenced in the future when needed.

Nowadays a lot of the very early films from the early 1900s have been lost because no one saw the need to preserve them, it's a real shame and I don't wanna see it happen to games.

>>383735713
what artist?

>>383735972
Uses outdated shit from other emulators and has less features*
Absolutely no reason not to use standalone versions

>>383735502
don't, unless you want to emulate stuff pre ps1 and n64 (not including them)

>>383736054
Works fine for me.

>>383735713
gunna need that sweet ass sauce

>>383736080
ps1 doesn't work? it's a 20 year old system

>>383735391
what the fuck op. is that a fucking xmb skin for your emulator front end? thats hot.

>>383736127
It's perfectly fine if you're an idiot who doesn't care about good emulation and just wants to play his shitty games.
That's not what I'm talking about

>>383735391
Great of course, what else is there to say?

>>383736146
depends on the game, some of them run fine but some stutter like crazy

>>383735391
open-source emulation is fantastic
If you're reading this and you're one of the >5,000 people donating to Cemu then you are a moron, please stop

>>383736186
>good emulation

What kind of retard argument is that? If it works it works, you don't need anything more unless you're a turbo autist.

>>383736146
ps1 works fine

>>383735391
Great. I encourage everyone to get into it

>>383736310
Like I said, retards like you don't care about it

>>383735391
Is there a good guide to follow on how to properly set up retroarch?

>>383736368
>but muh cycle accuracy

kys

>>383736478
Whatever you say, retard

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>>383736310
>What kind of retard argument is that? If it works it works, you don't need anything more unless you're a turbo autist.

>>383736542
how sad you must be to keep replying to me?

>>383736375
>got to nightly
>download most recent version and cores
>download redist and put into folder
>learn how emulators work (some like Mednafen require games to have proper .cue sheets)

>>383736310
>What kind of retard argument is that? If it works it works

Tell that to Project 64 or any other inaccurate emulator

>>383736715
>some like Mednafen require games to have proper .cue sheets

games usually already come with cue, I know all the redump ones do

>>383735391
introduced me to a shit-ton of games I likely would have never been able to play otherwise

>>383735391
Can you do emulation on the PS4? Not that I'd try, just curious.

>>383736834
Yeah but some dumps (especially Sega Saturn dumps) tend to have bad .cue sheets or no .cue sheets at all.

>>383736715
Every time I set up and then close the program it resets all my configurations. My cores are gone and when I try to load games they don't load.

>>383735391
>What's /v/ opinion on emulation?

That you shouldn't use shitty frontends.

Is that Retroarch's UI? is it the default? talk about stealing the worst ui in gaming in the last 30 years

>>383736962
redump Saturn all come with cue

>>383735391
It alright

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Alright I'll ask since everyone here is talking about it


what's wrong with retroarch? Why do you all hate it?

>>383737014
Retroarch's UI is made to be mobile friendly.

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>>383736375
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/RetroArch is a good start. It's really not as intimidating as some people make it out to be and has improved immensely from the "by neckbeards for neckbeards" thing it started out as.

As far as emulation goes, it's pretty important. Some day, all of those console will die and the companies that actually have control of that stuff have shown that they don't have anywhere near the level of concern for accuracy that people making emulators do.

We'll be past all of the issues one day if shit like this works out as well. I would be willing to pay new console price for something that runs PS2 and downwards consoles perfectly on an FPGA. Probably be some time before that's realistic though.

>>383736962
Look up Darkwater or Redump Saturn ISOs (a lot are on theisozone)

>>383736080
Mostly for NES and SNES, so I'm alright with that.

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>>383737014
That's the mobile friendly version
THIS is the UI for PC
enjoy

>>383736975
If you are crashing the emulator it will not save the configurations

>My cores are gone

That shouldn't happen

>>383737089
Probably idiots that don't use the actual good cores that RA has

>>383737257
Is there a list of recommended cores somewhere? There are like 10 cores only for GBA, I have no idea which one to use.

>>383737153
>It's really not as intimidating as some people make it out to be and has improved immensely from the "by neckbeards for neckbeards" thing it started out as.


When I first got into Retroarch the only confusion I got was updating. and cores.
I STILL don't get why they didn't just call cores "emulators" . Really stupid desicion to rename it

>>383737089
RA is really buggy and unfinished. It works at a basic level but a lot of advanced stuff just doesn't work well. At least it didn't the last I tried.

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>Instead of donating to RA everyone donated to CEMU

what went wrong?

>>383737427
Check the emulation wiki

>>383737089
I mean, it does require a little bit more effort to get up and running than a regular emulator. Some of the cores can be outdated at times as well.

I honestly think the main issue is that it exposes a lot of stuff that could potentially cause problems to people and idiots click the wrong thing and get a crash.

>>383737014
You can make it look quite good, it's very customizable. It is XBM though, no getting around that if you hate it.

>>383737615
They still have to add a fucking online multiplayer lobby

>>383735713
sauce

>>383737692
it's outdated as fuck

>>383737793
The new wiki,gametechwiki.

>>383737793
Then update it

>>383736542
look it's the same fucking faggot in these threads who can't bring proper arguments into the discussion and just calls everyone a retard
you're becoming really fucking predictable you little shit

>>383735391
How do I got box art in retroarch?

>>383737615
RPCS3 should be top priority. RA shouldn't get much at all because the devs are kind of sketchy. Even Xenia should be above them.

>>383738001
AND Cxbx Reloaded and XQEMU

>>383735713
Sauce on lewd arab girl, anon.

>>383737996
https://github.com/libretro/libretro-thumbnails

follow the instructions on the bottom

>>383737239
That hasn't been the PC UI for years. What do you get out of lying, you fat homo?

>>383738001
>RA shouldn't get much at all because the devs are kind of sketchy.

details please

>>383736894
It is possible but the lack of Homebrew is making that impossible for non Sony shit.

>>383737089
>what's wrong with retroarch?

It's a frontend that hijacks several emulation "cores." What it refers to as cores are emulator binaries that were written by completely unrelated parties, and that weren't even designed to interface with Retroarch. So several emulator functions end up broken or have half-assed functionality, cores behave in completely irregular ways, and the Retroarch frontend increases overhead and wastes additional resources.

You can simply download and run these "cores" as standalone emulators. You don't need Retroarch at all. The only real advantage to Retroarch is that it might be ported to a platform that doesn't otherwise support those emulators. For instance, it can run on a Pi box. But again, you're going to get some shitty and bugged out performance from it. I don't know if that's better than nothing.

>>383738134
It's open source, that faggot is trying to stir shit.

>>383735391
YOU SHOULD BE IN JAIL

>>383738203
>hijacks several emulation cores
>hijacks open source emulation cores

t.MAME dev

>>383738203
>What it refers to as cores are emulator binaries that were written by completely unrelated parties

I'm pretty sure everybody is aware of that, the RA devs never claimed otherwise.

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>>383738306
>mfw emulation will actually become illegal in our life times

The best shit ever. I dont give a fuck about system superiority shitposting but its the single best thing about having a decent pc. I can play a near endless amount of titles from all sorts of fucking consoles all at my desk for free

>>383738134
I don't have any, it's just a weird project. They fork away from the 'official' projects but don't maintain their own software well. It's not like they're doing anything for the average emulating guy, compared to people developing new emulators.

>>383738215
autist

>>383735391
I'll emulate your mom

RA still has the best Genesis emulator basically exclusive to it, all the standalone Genesis emulator are from like 2010 and are all pretty shit.

>>383738398
GOOD
NOW YOU BABIES CAN ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE WORLD

Reminder that everyone who claims that Mednefen is too hard is a retarded child and should unironically be gassed.

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I'd rather play the EEL DEAL, pic related is my CRT tv. It's a composite, nothing fancy like RGB or anything. Running Crash Bandicoot 2.

>>383738442
>They fork away from the 'official' projects but don't maintain their own software well.
The individual cores are maintained by different people, retard.

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It's easy to own real hardware.

>>383738547
>How do I get anons to download my software?
>I know, I'll insult them for preferring to use anything else!

Great job

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How do I get this look for my gameboy games

>>383738676
I don't care, autist.

>>383738512
It's also a really good Mednafen front-end and the Beetle HW core(which is still a little buggy for me) offers some shit that the official version doesn't.

bSNES core works pretty great as well.

That's pretty much all I use emulators for anyway. Covering those three bases with the awesome shader library is good enough for me.

>>383738862
>buy real hardware
>get a flash cart or mod it to play roms

the best way to play

>>383738925
You're a compulsive liar and probably 12. Go take your ritalin.

>>383735391
Emulation is good, retroarch is shit.

>>383735391
I like that it keeps older games alive, I'm otherwise indifferent.

>>383738994
What's the difference between using Mednafen and using Mednafen through Retroarch?

>>383738932
I use the bsnes core in retroarch because stock Mednefen does some retarded rom conversion.

Emulators are coded by geniuses and used by poorfags

>>383738912
Assuming Retroarch, start your game, go into the quick menu (F1), go "Shaders", "Load Preset", and look in the handheld folder. You'll probably want to use the glsl shaders, so look in that folder first.

>>383739123
>I use the bsnes core in retroarch because stock Mednefen does some retarded rom conversion.
Whoops meant bsnes

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>been using retroarch on android because it reduces a ton of delay and frameskip
>reading this thread get told RA is shit

fug

>>383739078
Retroarch is a lot more complicated to set up than stand alone emulators. It's only legitimate purpose is as a launcher for multiple systems and there are much better alternatives for that purpose.

>>383739349
>Retroarch is a lot more complicated to set up than stand alone emulators

It might take some time to set up but once you do you basically have a single launcher for all your emulators that is super easy to use and you can even use your controller to navigate through it.

>tfw been using Retroarch and Launchbox for a while now
fight me

>>383739235
Most of those people have no idea what they're talking about. Retroarch isn't perfect and there's valid criticisms to make, but like 90% of the time when people talk shit about it they were just too stupid to figure things out and gave up on it.

On Android in particular, it's a great option.

Which core should I use for SNES?

>>383739561
And there are alternative emulator front ends do that the same thing that and are nicer looking and.or are easier to set up like, Launchbox and Hyperspin.

>>383739349
RA was made to let emulator developers concentrate their efforts on the actual emulation and don't bother with GUI programming,some time ago a MAME dev had a meltdown about that and he was also angry because he thought that MAME core shouldn't be in RA.

>>383739864
>LaunchBox
I assume you meant Big Box which is not free.

>Hyperspin
>nicer looking

How's the 3ds emulator doing?

Can it run shit at a reasonable framerate yet?

>>383739864
Launchbox requires you to have the standalone emulators pre-installed and you can use it together with RA,Hyperspin has different cores.

>>383740023
Even regular LaunchBox is better than RetroArch and you can easily pirate the paid version, it has no DRM.

>>383740050
It's progressing at snail pace, Citra is probably the best option but still pretty bad.

>>383740154
>Even regular LaunchBox is better than RetroArch

You can't even compare the two since they're complete different things that serve complete different purposes.

>>383740291
You can though, they literally software made for the same purpose, to be a front end to emulation software.

>>383735391
i can download ISOs so it's legal yeah?

>>383740434
Launchbox is something to be use in a desktop with a mouse, RetroArch can be used with nothing but a controller.

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>>383735391
It's alright, but it's no bowl of Special K.

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>tfw you share a board with brainlets who can operate a computer and browse on this shit website, but can't configure an emulator front-end

>>383739982
>on the actual emulation and don't bother with GUI programming,some time ago a MAME dev had a meltdown about that


lol is this true? Good. Fuck MAME and their UI

>>383740536
You're implying using a computer is challenging

>>383740536
I wouldn't be surprised if the faggots talking shit about RA are the same ones who say using command line emulators is impossible.

>>383740510
You can use Launchbox with a controller.

>>383740607
>implying using RetroArch is challenging

???

>>383740789
I have no experience using it and never claimed such. But it's not hard to believe that using software for a special purpose is harder than using the internet to browse a website.

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>>383735391

>RetroArch shill threads are back

What is this? Did the developers add a new donation button to their site? It's bad enough this shit has completely taken over /vr/

>>383740916
if you haven't used it why are you even talking shit about something you haven't tried before? why are you even mad about my previous statement?

>>383741030
>everything I disagree with is shilling

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>>383737615
>everyone donated to an actual emulator instead of a shitty frontend

how is this a bad thing?

>>383738047
>>383737769
>>383736142
>>383736053
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=hijab

>>383739561
>It might take some time to set up but once you do you basically have a single launcher for all your emulators that is super easy to use

Except when the configuration inexplicably decides to implode in on itself, which happens frequently because RA is a sloppy bugged out piece of shite.

Also, inferior performance compared to standalone emulation. RA adds more overhead, and the emulation cores were not designed to be plugged into somebody else's frontend.

I use that 240p vga monitor setup on it. It is delightful. Fuck the idea of trying to setup arbitrary resolutions on the dozen different emulators I use. Just going through a menu to download a core is well worth the "overhead" the /g/ autists speak of in this thread.

>>383741049
I'm not talking shit, I only stated that your implication that using a computer means one should not have trouble using an emulator front end when it is obviously not always the case. Your assertion/implication does not hold up, that's it.

>>383741326
>Also, inferior performance compared to standalone emulation. RA adds more overhead, and the emulation cores were not designed to be plugged into somebody else's frontend.

Well thank God my PC is not shit like yours then.

One of the only realistic ways video games will be preserved for future generations, because many of these big companies are either out of business or just don't care to make their old catalog available en masse (via steam, etc).

>>383742058
Basically. Archiving is critical to the preservation of culture, entertainment, and lots of other things.

>>383742640
I mean even in an immediate sense. I would like to let my children experience many of my favorite games from my childhood, some of which are very hard to obtain today. I would be happy to buy them on steam or whatever if they were made available.

>>383742058
The ones that are making it available are doing it in shoddy, low effort ways as well. Both Nintendo and Sony's in house emulators are beaten out by other emulators most of the time.

Even though

>muh accuracy

is usually equated with autism to a certain extent, it's legitimately an important thing for at least one emulator to have per platform. Preserving games is 90% of it, but that extra 10% of preserving them as they were on original hardware is important as well.

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So the latest dosbox core build for Retroarch completely fucked up my dos library. Audio is messed up and games are now running at a ridiculous speed. It doesn't seem like any tinkering with cycles helps either and I forgot to do a backup. Would anyone be kind enough and upload an older dosbox core version somewhere?

>>383743421
Oh I agree. I'm all for doing things in the present especially if it's for things, like archiving, that can benefit future generations as well

I make no money but spend my mommies money on buying the PROPER hardware to play 20 year old games that cost 50 each. Sorry PC emulators just don't cut it for me.

>>383744015
Okay. I make decent money and have better things to do than manage different pieces of hardware to play different games. I'd rather just do it all from one customizable machine. Sorry physical consoles don't cut it got me

>>383738125
You can put it back to that one, though.

>>383737615
I don't really think RetroArch needs as much money, and this is coming from somebody who uses it. If I were going to donate money for an emulator I would give it to a new one in development, not a frontend that uses older emulators.

>>383739561
Sounds like Steam. I can use Steam on my TV in a different room from my computer. Can RA do that?

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>>383735391
It's time
https://youtu.be/KFpt_81UZfg

>>383739801
bsnes-mercury Balanced

>>383738203
What sucks is the front end + emulator with no interface is obviously the best path for the future. But it's just going to take 10 more years for everyone to get on board with it and make any single implementation that's actually good. I'll be almost 40. Fuck that.

Emulator authors just want to write emulators. They don't want to write UIs, file managers, input mapping, display options, implement video shaders, etc. That's boring application shit to them.

But right now retroarch/lakka just sucks and they're too slow about fixing it. So slow that retropie has taken off by replacing retroarch's frontend with emulation station and just using their emulator branches.

>>383738932
>Covering those three bases with the awesome shader library is good enough for me.

Too bad half the shaders are broken

>>383740023
Hyperspin definitely works for an arcade machine.

https://youtu.be/lUBzHF8aYPA?t=295

Need to get around to doing something like this so I can briefly play it once.

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>>383735605
>being a left/right dichotomy obsessed loser
Get bent.

>>383747735
Identity politics is a hell of a drug. You can dismiss people based on what you identify them as, and you can feel morally justified in doing so

>>383747935
faggot

It's great for preserving games.

>>383748040
Nice argument.

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>>383737717
>You can make it look quite good
You're telling me.

>>383735852
Me too, not only emulation, but being able to play old classics to this day is such a great tool. I just played FreeSpace 2 like in 2010 and had such a blast, then I became sad because there aren't any good single player space games being made these days.

>>383735391
i literally forgot how to emulate psx and ps2 games and where to get bios its funny you should ask